Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini - Quantum Mechanics Prove Reality isn't Local?

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Mike, Jesse and Alex return for another Midweek Mini From June of 2023 (Minisodes 138 and 139) MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com

No, for the very first time. Don't like it. Who, for the right tier can see me talking to you now. Wait, the first time? I didn't do this in the last episode. I didn't go up to the mic. I didn't go to the mic and go, Oh.

That's probably for the best. Yeah. Yeah, I was in YouTube mode. I got, you know, I'm on camera. No, it's probably for the best. What do you guys think about knowing that when I'm doing this, I'm going? Oh.

Oh, whoa, whoa. Everybody, only only a select tier can see you do that, you know? A very, very selective. here. Yeah, yeah. Last episode, Dean took a snapshot of one of the weird faces Jesse was making and at the end of the episode just played it on repeat over and over again. It was great. That's exactly what the people want. Welcome to Minnesota, everybody. So cool. Thanks, everyone. It's exactly what the people want. And I doubt Jesse's even seen it. No, he is not. Yeah. I guarantee you. We're talking about UFOs. Jesse, you've been keeping up. You've been keeping up with the UAPs. Have you

not? I have. Yes. I'm curious what you've been keeping up. I'll kind of want you to take the reins on the start of this. You want me to take the reins? Yeah, I'm very curious where you're going to, I'm just curious. Well, I am going to take the reins all the way over to Vanity Fair where they have an article that they just, I'm not sure how old this article is, to be honest. Let me look. It is from last week.

So right, literally right after our show. It's like the one about other whistleblowers? No, this one. is simply asking the question of like, what was the process here for this whistleblow? And why did people reject it? Like the article is literally called, why the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Politico didn't publish seemingly a seemingly bombshell report about UFOs. Since then, the New York Times has written an opinion piece on it.

So they have written, same thing with the Washington Post. An opinion piece is like, whatever, though. Agreed. It's not where, you know, anyway, continue. Anyway, so the story's written. by, I believe, let me make sure I get this correct. I don't want to. So Charlotte Klein, Clean is the author of the piece,

but the story was written by Ralph Blumenthal, who spent more than 45 years in the staff of the New York Times, and Leslie Kean, who is the investigative science journalist known for writing about UFOs. According to author, before you continue, those two people were instrumental in 2015 and 2017 as well, getting out the leaked videos,

and they're the ones that were instrumental and getting this guy to go through all the correct processes. Continue, sorry, but it's one people who don't know who they are. They're very reputable journalists. And so through this process, according to the author,

Charlotte Clean Klein, again, Keenan and Blumenthal did in fact bring the story of the Times, but the paper of record turned it down. The Times didn't respond to requests for comment, but Blumenthal reached by the phone, said that, you know,

they passed the paper, paper on. It was an early version back in April. And the pair pitched the story to Politico in the Washington Post. And the post said, we're going to research. We're trying to delve and learn some more information. But they didn't think it was to be ready for the publication schedule that they had in their minds that they wanted to do. And they had reservations, you know, but according to a source that was familiar with all of it, that it was kind of unclear what members of Congress made of the testimony. And so the post declined.

They didn't want to like publish the thing without Congress being like, yo, yeah, no, it's real. Politico, which a source familiar noted, had the story for just a few days while the post had the story for weeks. And the Politico was like, look, we can't do the turnaround in the time that you need. And the reason why they wanted this out there fast is because, you know, it's the internet age and leaks were leaking more and more and more. and they were spreading quickly around the internet

about like something's coming and so they wanted to get the story out there before people lost interest or it was too explosive already. The reason he even went public as his name got leaked out against his, he didn't want his name leaked and it got leaked and that's why he had to go public. Yeah, he was using a pseudonym before,

which is like so weird. So I'm just saying like everything is like he clearly wasn't trying to be like the centerpiece for all this every step of the way. It's unfortunate or it's just extremely effective of previous campaigns in this realm. Like, it's just like, it just feels, it just feels like either exactly the things that should be happening or the exact things that always happen at the same time. Another thing to keep in mind is the things he's saying are the things that the DOD specifically said he could talk about.

There are things he's still not allowed to talk about. So what he's saying has been cleared for one reason or another. Either way, sorry, Jesse. I mean to interrupt you. No, according to the Vanity Fair piece, when the pair realized that the post just needed more time and there was a clear sense that they just kind of weren't going to go anywhere with it, they took the story to the debrief and outlet that had published two stories before from them and was willing and able to do it quickly. And that's kind of how we got to where we're at. And yeah, it's just one of those things like, I don't know. I don't think any of us can say whether publishing it quickly meant they were just going to slow walk until it disappeared or if it meant that, you know, the post, for example, was like, look, we want to research this and make sure we're going to ask Congress, we're going to do this and this and this.

And we want to make sure we get this right. We don't know and I don't think we'll ever know, really. But that's kind of where we got to now and why all those things we talked about last time, you know, people weren't talking, like willing to publish or talk about the story in the media. a lot, even though a lot of 24-hour cable news was willing to do so. And the question you have to ask yourself is, if 24-hour cable news was willing to do so, why is that? And I don't know that it's because they believed it. Well, also, what about all the other stories that they are running? Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying? Like, I don't know that 24-hour news believed in this story, but they had 24 hours to fill, so they were going to run with it. You know what I mean? Like,

there's always so much things you can talk about. And then we were talking about this on text message that the story sort of vanished in the media. And the reason why is because 24 hour news, like all 24 hour news stations, suddenly it was, it was Trump. And then we're all right, moving on. There's a new thing to look at. We're moving on. What suspiciously happened is the next day a fucking Las Vegas alien landed and everybody covered it way more than they covered rush. And it was super fake.

It was such a clear hoax. It was a fucking meteorite. The footage is wild, like the like alien in my backyard is so silly. I kept sending them photos. I'm like, I don't, do you see it? I don't, where is this? Everybody see the leprechaun say, yeah. Yeah.

Like the news covered that way more for some reason. And then after that, it all died and then disappeared. Could have been a crackhead. Yeah. But I do remember. That is a great internet. I just remember what you're talking about. Old internet.

Cultural touchstone of the internet. Yeah. Yes. So the main news, you write correctly. Like, but things are, it didn't stop on the back end, however. Like, unlike a lot of other whistleblowers who are just disappear after, there's shit's coming out right now. I'm going to be talking about a couple of those things. Um, the big thing is, uh, the evidence that he did file a complaint way before all this went public has come out. Um, a four page, uh, the four page congressional complaint filed in 2020. I believe it was. I'm going to link you in your, uh, momentarily. still pretty recent, but a good indicator that he's at least got his shit figured out for some time. It gives you a long, it gives you like what he's complaining about. And the thing is he was being represented by a lawyer at the time. And a big news that came out a few days ago is his lawyers have left him. That's not technically true.

The lawyers only represent people who are currently working for the government. So now that you no longer works, they finished his complaint. They stepped away. And one of the lawyers in the firm that was representing him is splitting with the firm to continue to represent him independently. So it's actually sort of the opposite situation. But headlines were lawyers leave, Grush, and then if you didn't read the fucking article,

you didn't realize why they'd left Grush and one went back to continue representing independent. Seems kind of a weird thing to like make your headline, right? Almost like you just dismiss it. And immediately sees the thought that lawyers are dropping him. He mustn't be for real. But the details are way

more specific than that. That's kind of like how the whole thing is in a way. It really, really fucking is. I also gave Jesse and I'll give it to you. The link is in the chat, but I'll give it to you as well. Alex, I'll relink it of another thing that's popping up because, you know, UFO, the UFO subreddit is really great at finding shit. And this is from 2021, a news reporter, open, you can hear him ask openly ask the Pentagon guy. Hey, I've been interviewing people.

He doesn't name names because they're all, you know, behind the scenes. They keep saying you have crashed vehicles and bodies. Can you just say anything about that and where they might be? You might think the Pentagon guy would go. No, we don't have any of that. Here, here you go. John, happy birthday. There's no way that I can, like, sugar-goat this.

I was talking to a gentleman about the UAP report, and he contends that Pentagon has alien bodies and crafts. So I just wanted to run this past you. Does DoD have these things, and if so, where? Jeff, the UAP task force is really designed to take a look at these unexplained aerial phenomena. try to help us get a better understanding of them. Again, I'm not going to get ahead of the report that the DNI will submit that we are helping, obviously, and providing input to. He hasn't said no yet.

And I think I'll just leave it at that. It's a long walk to say, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. Dude got caught off guard. Dude just said. You're not trained to say no? Uh, uh, uh, uh, we have a, uh, uh, uh, we have a, uh, uh, you new, uh, UAP office that's to figure out the thing when, when, when, when, ooh,

shit, fuck. Across the centuries mankind has had seen UFOs. Yeah. Like it's just a, it's just a long gobbled to gook answer. Yep. And then, uh, a few hours like 10, 12 hours ago, another grush statement was cleared for publication that comes from the DOD. So again, more evidence that he was just following the right channels.

The Pope has smoked weed with the aliens at the Vatican. Well, we'll talk about. Did you hear like his claim? and stuff. Yeah, I watched the whole interview. And so it's important to keep in mind. He is basically working with secondhand information, the things he's being told. He apparently had photos and videos that he, that he was given and he gave that to Congress.

They have it. Again, the big thing that's also important to keep in mind is if he is lying, then then he goes to jail because everything he said to the Congress, it would be considered, you know, lying to Congress is a crime. If he heard it. But if he, exactly. If he's being told and misinformed intentionally, then we're looking at it's different.

But then, but I believe Grush, at least believes what he's saying. He believes that these things are likely to exist. My problem is, my problem is, if it's true, how is it going to be authorized? And like,

he's throwing, he's throwing Italy under the bus. He's throwing the Vatican under the bus. He's throwing the government. He's like saying like, the government has killed people to cover this information. of he's saying here is how the technology works he's saying like it's not about third

dimensional creatures it's about like fourth dimensional creatures that have a technology that they can experience differently than us and it's the slides different like why would that all he doesn't know how it works he just thinks that he did he did say that was the science behind it you know what I mean and he's saying we have we say we have things and I'm and he's saying we have specific things and I'm just saying he says yeah the Vatican knows and has been researching the UAPs for a long time You're saying we have a relationship with these people, you know, is that in World War, just the beginning of World War II, a UFO in 1933 crashed in Sicily, Italy.

That's the other thing I sent you the other day, that little snapshot of Mussolini's little handwritten, like, security thing about a crashed vehicle. And apparently at the end of World War II, we fucking took it. And that's how we got that. Is that, we snatched it from Italy afterward? I'm just saying all that stuff, you're like, now you're airing like Italy's dirty laundry too.

Sure. It just seems so. like it seems like it must be fake. Well, you would think that again, if you look at him, I think, in a, as in a bubble, like contextualist. The reason that nobody really like has a definite answer makes more sense to me in what he's saying is just it's a fucking tech cold war. Everybody's trying to figure it out before somebody else. So nobody's sharing information with anybody. Yeah, it's just.

He also said Lockheed Martin has stuff and he has other private contractors. It's crossed up. I think for me, it's crossed the. realm where I need either somebody else to come forward and say, no, that's exactly right. And I'm also as legit as this guy. Or I need to see some tid. I need to see some tid right away. No, but I mean like, I need him to be like, these are the images that we're talking. I need like somebody. No, what I'm saying is people who have his similar record have come forward and said he is speaking truth. It's just that now we do. I agree we need. It's time for some sort of. I need somebody else to put

themselves on the line in the way that he is in the same way. I want it to be, I want some evidence that the dam is breaking rather than this just being his thing. It was weird that he said he's starting a foundation in the meantime while he's waiting for this thing to get started and that he needs like support. Like there's things for other people who have like gone through what he's gone through. Yeah, I know, I get it. It's just, it just seems it, it just still either sounds exactly like Lou Elizondo or something like that. So what was his goal? What would, you say his goal two to three years ago filing his initial complaint was just the long game honestly like really like i don't know you know what i mean but like this what is the long game i'm just saying

the form of his emergence and the things that he's saying and the way that he's saying them it's it's very similar he is i see the difference i understand what the difference is factually but just from my point of view of how this is unfolding like there's no reason for the for the media to undersell the significance of it. And I think, and I think that right now, like, it's definitely interesting, but I'm just so cock teased by this again, where it's like, a long, it's like, looking at it from like your idea of it being a long game,

also doesn't make sense in my mind because he was trying to do it secretly under different names through a lawyer for years. We're talking about 2022. You know what I mean? Like, that's not that. One is when it started for him. I'm just saying that's not that long ago. Like that's not...

But he had a cush job in the intelligence agency. I get it. He gave that up. That doesn't make a sense. Like he could he could be either it's his mission to do this right now or it could be, which I think is a crazy thing to like entertain deeply. But like, you know, it could be that or it could be that he learned some information about the government or something that makes him want to not be in the government and he's trying

to like position himself as somebody with some political sway outside of the government and get into the world of, you know, radio. Why is his lawyer leaving his firm to represent him some more? I don't know. You know, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like, there are things about this that are interesting. I would be more believed that this, because again, this was all proved by the DOD.

Like, it's not just him saying it in a vacuum. The DOD looked at what he was going to say and said, you can't say that. You can say this. Maybe this is their way of slowly starting to get the information out there to us in a, in a slow, Because there's not going to be a day where the president stands in front of a curtain and then pulls a string, the curtain drops, and there's three aliens fucking on the table. Sure.

Sure. I'm just saying to me, it doesn't, it hasn't crossed the line into I'm behind this guy 100% yet. That's all I'm saying. Sure. Here's, I still think he's telling. I don't think he's no longer. Exactly what's missing is two other people that are doing the exact same thing as him right now, like two more whistleblowers emerging, one more whistleblower emerging, some sign of a damn breaking. But they had to use a pseudonym because they work in government still.

I get it. But I'm just saying like, like where's what? You want somebody else who's going to put their name on the line? I want, yeah, I want more whistleblowers who are like, who have the same level of like to. Well, we're supposed to. He also said in the interview, we have more whistleblowers. No, exactly. Exactly.

So I'm, I'm, I'm ready for that or I'm ready for some tid. We need to see the boys. Can I ask a question? Those are the two things. Just like general question about the whole thing. ignoring the fact that these fourth dimensional higher beings crash all the time

which is a whole thing I have questions about the question I have is if we are like how are we both in an arms race with other countries to learn as much as we can from the crash tech and communicating with these people and talking with them as like we're working together like it seems like two

Communicating with you. Disprit ideologies. Like, if we're communicating with them, why are we equally also, like are the only, I guess I don't understand, are they friend or foe? Why are we communicating with them?

How are we communicating with them? And if we're communicating with them, are they upset that we're taking apart their tech and like storing the dead bodies? No, because there's, he, that's a thing, right? Okay, so talking about his interview and the things he said,

that's the other thing. They don't understand why things are crashing sometimes. They don't understand. Sometimes they got a wreck. They claim. The aliens don't understand? No, no. We don't understand.

There was another one where they landed the vehicle left and never came back. And then the U.S. took it. And we don't know, they don't know what happened. They don't know where they went. It almost feels like, I mean, it's a weird and out there theory that I only just kind of like hurt red today or the yesterday. But the idea of like, what if they're doing like a bunk up, we throw a cell phone at a bunch of monkeys and see if they can figure anything out? What if they're purposefully just wrecking shit and seeing what we do with it? Seeing if we can figure it out.

Seeing what we do with this tech. How we treat it? Well, okay. If the grays are biological slash cybernetic, they might just be drones that have to fly in, crash the thing and then be done with it. We now, we also, we have also testimony of people saying nowadays, you know, that's mostly like unmanned shit flying around. But why? So then we're hoarding their tech, but also community. with them, why would they communicate with us if they, like, we don't throw a cell phone at monkeys and then sit there and be like, so do you enjoy that?

Like, we don't, well, the other thing he said is like, well, he was saying like they, the, uh, they, they scoop people up, the genetic testing as a reason maybe like, I think it was him who was saying like, cattle mutilations are not a ship coming down. It's like a weird cloud that appears and then vanishes and it's left with just like all these fucking marks on it. And he's, the guess is genetic testing. maybe, like just checking things out, like we would in the ocean floor, like taking something and then being like, what does it do? Cutting it open. Think about also the idea that maybe the relationship, well, the relationship, like, what if the relationship is not consensual? You know, like, what if they are in, they have some sort of serious control over us or some, some serious advantage over us where they plan on taking the planet for themselves and

they're just observing us and make sure we don't fuck it up before they come. You know, maybe the government is trying to hide the fact that they are... What if we're the aggressive ones? What if these things are flying in and we're just fucking blowing them out of the sky? The point is there's a million ways... The point is there's a million things that it could be that we don't... Yeah, we don't know. And this guy is not on the team.

Like, none of it makes sense. Which fits with anything alien we've ever talked about. There's no... Sure, but it doesn't make sense just across the board. It doesn't make sense. You're talking about just like the logic? We have some concrete details and some more vague illusions. And that's the problem right now.

Well, there might be multiple things visiting us and not all the same thing. And then that would explain. That's exactly the problem with the situation that we're in right now for me is that like, at this point, like this guy seems really legit. There's something, there is definitely some more attention being paid to this on the government side than normal. Undoubtedly. I mean, they've, a Gijilla brand said she's looking into like are there. Because the other thing to remember, too, is,

For the people who don't know, AARO, the UAP place, don't have Title 50 clearance. So they cannot go into what's known as SAG programs, special access only or whatever programs, or SAPs. They can't get info from them. So they are working without congressional oversight. And that's where, like, his complaint starts is like, that you're happy. This is the part that you need to be concerned about as the people who run the government. Yeah. But for me, yeah, I guess as long as all I can do is speculate as I can't like run with a single piece of information.

like nothing is verified like for example like if if somehow the Vatican thing could be like verified and then I could go and run that against like other cases. They're too busy trying to hush on the fucking little boys that are getting lost. The moment I will say it's real. The moment that I will say this is probably real is when I'm running with facts that they're giving me and I'm able to see it play out in history. Like the disconnect between watching like we literally. just had, currently right now, a former president is indicted for walking out with files.

We have multiple other vice presidents and other presidents just like wandering around. Yeah, like just wandering around with files. The fact that they're playing so loosey-goosey with all of these secrets, it blows my mind that we just don't know. First of all, this shit has been being leaked for decades. Nobody just takes it serious. That's one. It has been being leaked.

Everybody thinks it's a joke. The second thing is these compartments. There's compartmentalized so much. No one's leaking evidence. They're leaking. I heard. I can literally point the 2017 to videos that were leaked. For two weeks, we're denied by the Pentagon until they gave up and said, no, you're right.

They are. There's still some disconnect between we have stuff and we've seen stuff. I'm not saying it's evidence that we have stuff, but it is evidence that the government will play games until they're forced to admit shit. Yeah, but there has always been evidence being leaked. On top of that, he is the, if you read his complaint, he's part of like an organization within an organization. The intelligence community is nested dolls one and the other of small three letter names.

He was like with the NGA who is part of the UAP, this, that, and the other. It's these small groups who don't talk to each other, followed by private corporations who apparently also have them that are not talking and everybody is trying to figure it out, but Nobody's talking because... But like you're telling me at a private organization where capitalism and money is key, no one has once been like, effing, I'm going to get my, I'm going to get my bank up. Like, he does say the private corporations sell them back to the United States government. They do sell these crafts and they also can't figure them out.

But I'm saying like there's no person in private sector who's like, yeah, it's too damn big. It's too big of a story to that. There are people in the private sector who have come forward and said this. This has been happening for years, but nobody takes it seriously. And that's the problem where we're at right now in this whole thing, which is all these people, everyone is saying like, I've seen it, I was there, I did this and this, but no one in all the years has come with any real, touchable, tangible evidence. It does not exist as far as I'm concerned. There might be photos or videos, whatever, and all that. I mean, there are photos of meta materials that are owned by Jeanne.

Doc Valet that are said to be no way made by man because of the way they're compounded, but you're looking at a hunk of metal, so how are you going to know? But that's what I'm saying is like there is no evidence at the moment. Like there's nothing. And until we get there. Nothing verifiable. Yeah. Yeah.

Until we get to that moment, all this stuff of like I saw it. It to me means absolutely nothing now. Like we're at the point we're at peak UFO. If they don't deliver. General public. I'm like over the not delivery. I'm so. it's like such, like Alex said, the biggest cocktees in history.

And I'm so over. I like, don't. I'm upset and don't care. Like I just, I'm like, either deliver. You're, you're again looking at him in a bubble. The only reason he's able to do it. The way he's doing it is because the, the law that was passed that protects whistleblowers happened only two years ago.

So for two years, he's been doing it legally. Then why has, what we ask of these people to do it this way. And what do you want us to do? He had 11 hours with Congress. Right, but I think Alex and are saying, we are at, we are at the summit. We're at Everest. And unless an alien comes down and says like, we can go higher, there is no place left to go. What do you want?

What do you want this guy to do when he says, as a piece of paper says the DOD says, like you only say this. No, no, no, Mathis, there's nothing this man can do. There's nothing he can do. There's nothing anyone else can do except deliver the goods. To discredit himself. He's not discrediting himself. He's not being shady necessarily. What I'm saying is so many people, including you, have asked for somebody like this to come forward.

He's here. No, I haven't. He's saying he's here. He's saying he's here. He's saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the difference. Yes.

Everything is still look over here. The moment that it changes from look over here to look at this piece of information. I have to cut you up because you're looking at it in a bubble. He's not doing it like every other whistleblower. I was told or some guy told me he is as credible as the person who talks. I'm not looking at it. No, you've got to take in the context. He's saying this with the express allowance of the DOD.

He's not a retired CIA guy. Yes, we do. We have the paperwork. We do know. This is all stuff we actually know. But then how do we exist in a world where people get killed for saying this? And he's saying it. Because you're assuming the government runs like a one machine that all works together

and isn't independently aware of different things. And if it doesn't, then why are they not more like physical? Because they're keeping shit secret because that's what they'd rather do. Let me clarify. Are you saying, are you saying we're just definitely looking at a guy who actually has seen aliens and it's definitely 100% real? No, what I'm saying is we're looking at a guy who definitely isn't trying to make a buck off of this. Okay. This is not a man trying to spin and sell a story and get his 15 minutes of fame.

Yeah. Nothing about what my point of view is. right now has to do with the character. No, it's the long game, right? Long game for what? That's exactly, that's exactly the problem. Is like, right now there is nothing about- But it's a negative connotation.

You immediately put like doubt by saying he's in the long game. He's saying, I could be, what I'm saying is, it could be a million different things. And that report could be there either. Like we've all agreed, we've all agreed, this could be disinformation. It could be a million different things. The things, the things,

that's frustrating about this on June 14th, 2023, and I think Jesse's going to agree with me here. It's not that we don't see the things about this that make this special. The problem is that right now, as we're sitting here, yelling about it, right? There's nothing here that's going to change anyone's mind yet. And until, and according to, according to Grush, we're headed towards that moment, right? We're headed towards the mind-changing moment. It still seem to be. according to him and that's good but right now from where I'm sitting as somebody who's going to say

yeah this is a pretty big one we should probably think about this before we put all our cards behind Grush I agree with you we're still yeah but but that's what I'm saying is like the reveal is that we all just agree with each other the reveal is that the thing is I just treating him like every other whistleblower

is a mistake it's not that it's not that I think he is like every other whistleblower it's just that right now we still haven't progressed past the point right where anything about what he's saying is any more credible than anything else. I know you want photos and stuff. So here's my question. If the U.S.

government truly has UAP technology beyond anything we understand, do you really think they want the world stage to know we have it and are working on it? Or do you think they'd rather keep that to themselves as best they can because we are monkeys throwing bombs at each other, not an enlightened civilization? Then why even acknowledge videos or say that this is a thing? The Pentagon didn't until they were forced, and then they denied this. Why were they, what forced them? You know the government don't do anything.

A large, a large scale concerted effort from inside the government. A large scale effort from people inside the government to disclose would be, would be. But if it was really, truly, at the scale of world changing, they would remove the problem. You know what I mean? Like, they've done that before. For smaller things. If enough people, if enough people came forward. like Grush, even without evidence, if there was like four to ten more people as legit as Grush.

But publicly, not behind pseudonyms because they still work in the government. That's what I'm saying. Like, it has to be the same as Grush a lot more times, even without evidence, then I will start to be like, we need to fight for these people. Right now, I'm not convinced. What it needs to be is someone with something to lose. Yeah. We have, Grush, there's nothing.

He's not going to lose anything. The man retires. We need someone with something like. Who, if they come forward, if they say this, it will hurt them in some way. Or it could be that Grush has already said the thing that will cause other, like, if the House of Representatives starts digging into this and they start to say, hey, this is real, then that's, that's another thing. Like, that's another time when I would agree with it without evidence.

What I would say, yeah, I agree with you, Alex. What I would say to Jesse, though, is the man is being harassed. He's actively complained about it formally to the Congress that he's being harassed. His phones are tapped. People are bothering him trying to shut him up. Like, that's happening. I'm not talking about,

like, I'm talking about on a grander scale. I'm talking about, like, someone in a place of actual power, using that to, to deliver this message that, like,

it's real. And as a result, they will lose that power. And that's a, like, that's a major, like, okay,

now we're getting there. If like, like, Elizabeth Warren came out, was like, I'm going, all my, throw my career away for aliens. Do you then, I think, kind of like understand the issue because the people within like Senate

and Congress don't have, they don't know what's going on. They don't have Title 50. AARO doesn't have Title 50. The people who actually have the power are the ones that don't want Congress to find out. And none of them are going to come forward because they're rich and powerful. Why do the people who have power allow this guy to do this? Because they're not because they're not because they're SAPs. They're programs that unless you have Title 50 authority, you don't get to know about.

Why does a shadow government allow this to happen? It's not the shadow government, it's just the military industrial complex. It's the new law. It's the whistleblowing law. That's the only reason. The whistleblowing law is brand new. I understand. But like, let's start from scratch.

Let's like, if the three of us ran the, if we were like the three richest dudes in the world, and we had all the damn power. And we knew there were aliens out there and they were doing stuff. And whether it was fourth dimension or from space or, whatever, right? From the future. Doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah.

We knew it would change the world. And for years, we had been like, ha, ha, ha, disinformation, this, and this and this, and this. And it threatened our control of things. Like, once there are things that are more powerful than us, we lose our power. Why on earth would we allow people to continue,

like, do more than just the delusion, not just like. Their power. Who says these things are threatening their power? Anything that has more power than the most powerful people is threatening their power. That's just like that's something how they think. Genuinely mentally can't understand because it's technology they don't understand. What do you want them to do?

But you're saying we're communicating with them. Well, we don't know. We don't know. He says that there is a relationship of some kind. Sure. And if there's a relationship, that relationship, whether built on like, we're working together or we fear each other or whatever, those in power, if someone can come here and we can't stop them, they're more powerful than us.

Yeah, but see, that you. You are walking down the road of conspiracy because then the answer is, well, the theories, that's where Wi-Fi came from and all this other stuff. No, no, I'm not like doing any of that. I'm saying that if we are the three most powerful people in the world and we have allowed all this like, yeah, like, whatever, let them talk. No one's going to believe it. It doesn't matter. If they start getting close to the actual truth and they're pushing for the truth to come out and we're like, yo, this isn't like, I don't. my question is

why wouldn't we silence it or why won't we tell people don't say a damn thing like why are you even acknowledging it? Why are you massively compartmentalized into multiple small groups

that don't talk to each other so nobody fucking knows. Okay but then where is the follow-up of Batman runs the Bruce Wayne is Batman subreddit dude exactly he does like he's the he made it he's the mod

what's the follow-up to what? No, it just doesn't, there isn't a logical, like, there's a logically here. You're assuming these people who have these things have empathy of any kind beyond selfish interests. I, yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying. They're selfishly interested. Why on earth would they allow anything to get to hear? Who says they are? Who says they are?

The whistleblower law is brand new and was not approved by Lockheed or any of the FEPs. Do you think any people with real power give a shit about a whistleblower law? The thing is, it's still in the realm. Well, if it protects him like it is now, yes. It's still in the realm. Like, UFOs as the subject matter, like, it's like the whole, like, the whole idea that they could be spacemen could be disinformation to protect the real truth as a matter of this. It could be an AI.

Yeah, the whole thing is, the whole thing is to muddy the waters. You know what I mean? So letting him talk isn't really that significant in that way. To me, the thing that's more interesting about him talking is that if it is true, and he is revealing things about America killing people to come. these secrets and, you know, stealing things and, and, you know, in getting involved in a Cold War-esque way. It's weirder that they would let him say that if it were true. But the point is not whether the things he's saying are real claims. It's just that he's saying, that just

that just points to the disconnecting the government because the Pentagon went off of this. You can't keep falling back on that as like, well, the government is a mess. He's just basically saying, I'm hearing all this crazy stuff. The DOD said, we don't know. And then the White House said, ask AARO. There were three different answers from three huge. branches of government. And his message is just, I'm hearing all this crazy shit. We need to look into it, not this is real for sure. Yes, he's like, these people are telling me these things exist. He's been researching it for, he ended up researching it for three to four years after he learned about it and decided there was enough there to bring it to Congress to put an 11 hour testimonial out, to file

a complaint with Congress, to go public after his name got leaked. It's not that he's a whistleblower and not that what he's saying is actual truth. This is the first whistleblower that tried to do this in the legal way. Like without just going on like some Fox News special. Yeah, going on fucking Fox News or talking to fucking whatever that asshole who's on Twitter now. Cucker Tarelson, the him. It's so, what sucks about this

is I see how passionate you are, Mathis. And I know that this is something that you really respond well to. But also knowing deep in my soul, like I mean this in the nicest way possible. when this video slash episode finally hits the public version not the Patreon but the public version nothing will have changed

nothing will have changed that would and that's fair if that happens I agree with you I like I promise you nothing will have changed hit us up in the comments and let us know if you're part alien or not yet that'd be great if you were an alien nothing will have changed

and that's it goes back to what Alex was saying about the inherent problem of where we are at the moment, which is camera quality is better. There are more people with actual like go time. Bonifides, right? Let me give you an example, though. We saw a high definition video of a triangle hovering behind someone's backyard. Do you believe that that was real?

Or do you think it was CGI? Because now our video is good enough. But I'm saying like at this point it doesn't matter because we've reached the, we've reached PQFO where we can have the highest. quality thing. We can have the highest, like, a person and we can have people in government come forward until, like, we've reached the zenith. And anyone who comes out after this has the, might have the exact same credibility as this person, but we are pushed no further to the truth. I, I am holding your hand and singing the same song as you. For me, this is the

pinnacle of a whistleblower. There is no better whistleblower than this. So far. And if, like Jesse said, I don't know if there's anybody who, could do it the right way and maintain the right credentials and it be a bigger deal than this unless it was like Biden you know what I mean like to be someone who would lose something yeah so now the next parts are watching where this goes because he's still in the process of filing it and all this shit and still happening um the whistleblowers he said that are coming forward we'll see but yeah it's we need some sort of now we're at the point where there needs to be a photo that's clear that's in a hangar somewhere. That's like, no, from the government, like this is an, this is an alien spacecraft.

Yeah. I think we, again, I think we're all on the same page. We all secretly agree. We're just different chapters. Different levels of angry about it. Yeah. It's just like, this is what I've wanted from a whistleblower. I've heard so many, I was CIA, I've done this. There's like 900 of those people. This is what anybody will want from a whistleblower. This is gone through the right channels. Yeah. To try and do this and then ended up having to go public because his name was leek. It's just not enough to make me feel like the world is different yet. That's all. Sure. Yeah. Like for me, personally, the thing that would get me

be like, okay, I'm ready is if, for example, you know how they had the Trump boxes and there was one box that was knocked over? If they had photo of the knocked over box and then in that box, a photo that was in there that had the alien, like, whatever, and then

they gave us the paperwork that had the, that was in the box and the paperwork said this was recovered then, and this is this, and it had classified written all over it. Like, then I'd be like, okay. That is something that a man stole, that a man hid, that then we now have access to, that then has actual like paperwork with it.

Then I'd be like, okay, now we can continue on. We gotta keep watching next boss, man. We gotta keep watching X boss. So like, yeah, so he's in his test, I mean, in his interview, he said there were photos and videos. So he's on record saying there are these physical evidence that exist. So now I agree with you. It is time for those somehow to give me one, give me two. I didn't need something that gets the photo evidence going.

The other person I would say continue watching is Avi Loeb and the NASA team. Avi Loeb is doing Project Galileo as we speak. NASA is legit. Like this team that they put together are great. Like Avi Loeb is like he's really interesting to follow. And he's going to get after something that is, he believes is, uh, evident is like a piece of a vehicle that crashed into the ocean. Um, and some people believe it's just a meteor right. So he's going to, he wants to find it and test it and see what

it's made up kind of thing. He's the other one to watch in the NASA briefing come August. Maybe that's like in the really conspiracy world, it's like maybe this is happening. Maybe the DOD is allowing little things to come out because people, the private world and NASA and all this are starting to make their own pushes and they're going to figure it out if it's there one way or another. So maybe they're trying to get ahead of it. Again, that's massive conspiracy theory world.

But it's an interesting thought. But again, I agree. I think we're on the same page. I really do. I'm more excited that this guy is the only legit whistleblower in my lifetime I have seen. And that's why I guess I'm so excited to somebody who's just like loved this stuff for so long. Yeah. So now let's set aside the arguing and talk about something that's definitely true.

Yeah. And that's Giuseppe Larosa. Very true story. The order of Mionia. This is a new, this is the Stones of the Tree of Life, part one. That's today's. This is a continuation of the story in the previous minisode based mostly on the books Chronicle of Mionia about Giuseppe, Joe Lerosa. So if you want the whole thing, go back to start in Minnesota 133.

Last time, we told the story is a short one today. We told the story of how our hero Giuseppe, Joe LaRosa witnessed. Can any of you time out? None of you can hear what's happening in the background, right? No. Someone above me is having, like, dirty-ass sex, and I'm just letting you... It's probably somebody you've heard... It is loud.

Can you move the microphone closer to the wall, please? Here's the problem is. It's literally just a dude going, uh, uh, uh, and I'm just a... not okay right now. But like, all right, please continue. I think that's

ideal for this story, actually. So, he just, oh my, he just went, uh, all right,

I got it finished. I'm gonna mute my, oh, oh, I think I heard that. I'm telling you, dude. I can't hear it.

I wish I could. I think he stopped. When Jesse speaks and he breaks the noise gate when he's, I think I hear it a little. Uh, all right. Here we go.

Uh, last time. we told the story of how Giuseppe Jolaroza witnessed the discovery of the redstone and how now their group of psychic adventurers, sometimes called the nine, have both the green and red stones in their possession. So that's two stones. And now it's time for a new story arc to begin.

What is what has happened? What has occurred? Jesse looks like... It's so loud. I think it stopped again, but like literally it was like, ooh! Oh, he finished!

I hope he's like... I hope that you don't get like a notice that like the man above you died of a heart attack. No one. No one helped him. Dude, then you could get haunted. Dude, that would be so sick to be worth it. So this one, it's a new story arc. If this was a comic, this would be a new story arc.

It's a whole slew of fresh information here for you that you've never heard before. And it all started in December of 1982 when Terry Schotton, the target of the guardian from the previous arc. got a call on the phone. Luckily, we have the story of what happened during that phone call in Terry's own words, as told to Giuseppe the next day. So Mathis is going to impart that story to us now. The other day, something strange occurred. The phone rang and I picked it up. There was a strange noise coming out of it.

I could distinguish that it was a voice, but it seemed like a record set on fast speed. I thought that somebody was fooling around and I put the phone down, but it rang again. I picked it up and discovered that it was the same noises before. Uh, uh, uh, rhythmically over and over. But at a slower rate this time, I put the phone down thinking some kids were playing a joke. A few moments later, the phone rang again. Once again, I picked it up and it was determined to shout down the phone to whoever was messing about. The sound was slower this time, and as I listened, I heard my name repeated several times.

Instantly, I began to realize that something was an unusual. Oh, Jesse, Uh, Uh, something usual was occurring. Somebody or something was trying to communicate, but the voice was at the wrong speed. I told whoever it was to slow down,

because with the speed that they were communicating, I could only catch a few words. In a flash, like a record on a turntable, put onto the right speed, the words became intelligible, and I understood who was communicating. So pretty weird little intro to this new entity.

Uh, forget about Gueverro. and forget about all the other characters that we get. Wow. We're expanding the lore. Yeah, this entity you've heard of before. You know this character, even better than Gwynnevere. And that is Pan, as in the literal Greek myth, God character Pan with the goat legs, who plays the flu. Mr. Tumnus?

Yeah, Mr. Tumnus from inside the wardrobe. He said that he needed to have Graham come over so that he could possess Graham. So Graham came over and... Wait, come over where? To Terry's house. Into the wardrobe. Oh, right. Sorry, my bad.

He lured him with some Turkish delight. He needed, he was like, he was literally like, call him and have him come over right now. So he did. And then he let, Graham let Pan come into him. And he, under his influence... A Seder would. A Sater would, honestly. They'd be the ones to do it.

Under his influence, he told Terry and I think a guy, Mike, was there too, Told them, Mathis was there also. And he told them that they all had to dig a hole. This is why I'm so adamant. I know it's all real. I witnessed some wild shit in England back in the 80s. Yeah. So he told them they have to dig this hole.

So they dig this hole. They all team up. They get a shovel. They dig this hole. Once the hole's dug, he's like, what do you see? And they're like, nothing. And he's like, you must have seen something. Tell me what you see.

And they're like, come on. This is an improv lesson now. Come on. We're like, I cannot see anything. And he's like, can't you see a hole? And they're like, yes, there was a hole. And he's like, well, that's something, isn't it? And so this whole story was...

This is like a side quest in like Morrowing. Yeah, exactly. So this whole story was being told by Terry to Giuseppe over a glass of wine. Of course. And next thing that... So you tell me there was a satyr fucking somebody else. Yeah. And basically what happened was Terry then, they poured them some wine.

and basically gave him the background for this next arc of the story. This is evolution of the tale for sure. And this is going to be Jesse now, Aspan, telling us the new Vati Vida-esque lore for this era of the Stone Saga, the stones of the tree of life. Humanity! Can't see the wood for the trees. Their perceptions limit them in,

Seeing this reality as it actually is, many thousands of years ago, a group of being set out to visit Earth. Because it was going to be a long journey, they were placed in a state of suspended animation due to Lord Zinu and destroying their ones. No, no, all right. He laid them at the base of a volcano. What they did not realize were that consequences. of being put into a suspension for so long, what happened was that the spirits came to Earth prior to their bodies.

When they arrived here, the spirit, this is literal... This is synodology, dude. When they arrived here, the spirits knew that they had to do something to await their body's arrival, so they all entered the indigenous animal life forms

that inhabited the planet. Basically, the time is near when the space with the bodies is due to what? Basically, the bodies would require the spirits back to become animated again. Nonsense is what that is.

Nonsense. Incredible story. I don't know. That was probably the best thing I ever heard. So they just sat there and silence. Hang on. There we go. Thank you.

That was a little delayed. Nonsense. Great story. The whole audience loved it. And then they all stopped clapping immediately at the same time. The sign cut out. I got it. I felt like 30 seconds of it was too much.

It was a satellite. So they sat there, sipping wine. Giuseppe just took his wine and just sort of sloshed around a little while, processing the information. And then he spoke up finally and he said, quote, that's some story. If Pan's statement is correct, the arrival of these beings is going to be a massive historical event. And then Terry said, quote, that it most certainly will be. We'll just have to wait and see. And now the story is going to continue in the next minisode. Dude, is this like all leading up to like the birth of Elron Hubbard or something? You have no idea where this is headed. That's what I don't. Aliens are part of it now, but in the form of aliens have, the, my point is the aliens have been there from the very beginning, bro.

And you don't believe Grush after all this? After the greenstone? I think he. The actual. Listen, he didn't mention anything at all about mantises. So I don't know what to believe. Oh, man. The mantis ones are scary.

Yeah. But there you go. Next time on this mini-stance. so the serialized pulp adventures of Giuseppe La Rosa continue. This is honestly my favorite way of doing the story. It's much better to get a little bite-sized bit each time. Jesse, you know, he did a little bha impression every time he did pans voice. I hope pens in the story a lot.

Pans in the story more? Great. Yes. Just get ready. It's utter nonsense. Young Professor Xavier to play him. What do you mean? This really happened.

This is nonfiction, bro. This is my basis for alien belief, Jesse. You're learning it right now. You know what? If by the end of this, if it ends as good as I wanted to end, I may be converted. I may be like,

yo, that was pretty good. This is my Lord of the Rings. Dude, of all people you want a cult, you want somebody like Jesse as a true believer, he will hype up the cult.

The fan fiction writers, that's what we need. Yeah. Do, yes. You got to get like the, uh, the K-pop stand somehow too. Yeah.

The only thing missing from this story, there is no, there is no like OTP, there's no love interest. Like, I'm waiting for that to have where he's like, then, Cheryl and I

locked in a heated embrace knew the end was coming Yeah I you know I feel like they'll hit all the I feel like they'll hit all the I'm excited By the end I feel like it I hope so By the end I feel like everybody will be satisfied

That's what I am saying Did you know that Zelda might be part alien That dude that's a whole That's a whole other situation That's actually like Here's the Kingdom fucking Lord We should do like a Conspiracy theories

In fictional worlds episode No it's not even The first king of high rule is an alien who lands on the planet. Yeah, it's ancient aliens, bro. It is. It's ancient aliens. It's hilarious. But let's not, I don't want to spoil tears of the kingdom. That's not really spoiled.

No, you're right, but I don't want to go too far. How did he land there? What was he doing? I could not tell you. I actually don't know. I can't get into that. I can't get into that. I want to know now. I know. I'm interested in that. I want to know that lore. That's what you got to figure out where, which timeline this takes place in? Is it all of them? The question is, the question is which animals have the alien spirits in them that these aliens Are we gonna find that out?

I'm going moose. I'm just saying, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where it's said it, but you'll find out next time. I hope it's one of the more like offensive ones. Like one of the ones that like really piss, like snakes. Yeah, just like like some Harry Potter shit. A platypus has to be alien.

Dude, it's so fucked up. It seems like a glitch, bro. Coala bears. It seems like a programming glitch. Octopuses. Octopus's got body. Wait, whoa, whoa, time out. Octopi.

Wait, so there's soul. Hold on Iowa. Their souls took over animal bodies and they're waiting for their bodies to arrive. Yeah, and the bodies are about to show up. And so the souls are going to move? Have existed.

Like, are these animals immortal? I don't know what the... Or do they hop between animals? When you went into the animals? You have to find out next time on the minisode. You're like, I'm rooming your brain. All right.

Well, we'll be back next week as you do. I got a new thing. Is that why all dogs go to heaven? Oh, shit, dude. I can do this for 50 more episodes if you want. I don't understand how... Did you know that, like, the week that I announced the Greenstone was done, he, like, put out a new book. And there's like a new...

There's like a new shit going on over there. So cool. So cool. Uh, I, I... Somehow this is, you were right and this is more entertaining than the first part. Like, it's just like more entertaining as we go. Yeah. Dude, once it's now, like, firmly there's aliens.

We're in a whole other world. Dude, I can't wait for that happen in reality and in that book. I know, right? It could happen at the same time about... It could be... could. Greenstone. We're creating reality.

Yeah. It's true. We'll be back next week with another heaping dose of something educational, probably. Maybe not. At least fun. Right. Bye. Okay.

Goodbye. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, well, my little chlaminots. Welcome. Do, do, do, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Welcome to, welcome. the minisode do not don't do know don't do know

do you put on a little effects here oh shit so cool oh dude there's janet there's janet there's janet

cussumming in the demon welcome to the minisote we have a fun show today I'm just going to start it off and get out of the way obviously more a uap things but this is the other side of the coin not the whistleblowers

not grush not the government but uh physicist and doctor avi lobe out in the Indian Ocean, scooping up some stuff. This stuff's super interesting. If you don't know, we can get you up.

In 2014, the first recognized potential media, I say potential, because A Awey thinks it might be something else, but a meteor or some space object from outside of our solar system, came in,

crashed into Earth's atmosphere, and landed in the Indian Ocean. Over the past few years, the DOD and a bunch of scientists have been able to kind of narrow down where they believe it landed. And Avi Lobb, who believes this might be something

from a faraway technological civilization over the course of thousands of years, wants to go out there and at least scoop it up, because even if it's not, it is still the first meteor to ever enter our planet from outside of our solar system that we are at least aware of. So gathering the stuff one way or another is useful.

That being said, he's been out there for about two weeks, and yesterday, a nice little breakthrough happened. Did I link you yet? Here you go. Here's the link to it. I'm going to read a little bit out of it, though. This is from yesterday. The sphere yule is what they're called.

Spheres, yes. So basically, they're running a magnetic sled across the ocean floor where they believe the path was and they've been hit in different areas. And they finally were able to pull up something that was what they kind of were looking for. They actually picked up a spherial that's the size of 0.3 millimeters in size that looks like under a magnet. Try that again. Under that thing. It looks like a metallic pearl on the background of volcanic ash because they have a lot of volcanic ash. because they have a lot of volcanic ash in the area from exploding things.

Jesse looks fascinated, confused, perhaps. It's interesting looking. Yeah, it is sort of like microscopic, perfect little golden bowls. It looks like an early 2000s Marvel movie opening credits. Yes, yes. I love that. Yes. Ant man, 100%.

Yeah. And so for him, he's like, these should be like ants. If you find one, then there should be many more if this is the path that all crashed on. And they found more in their scoop. He quickly congratulated the team, and he urged Ryan and a few others to place them under the X-ray fluorescence analyzer to get its composition. And what they found was that it's a composition of mostly iron with some magnesium and titanium, but the imperative part is there's no nickel. This composition is anomalous compared to human-made alloys, as well as asteroids and familiar astrophysical sources that have come in from our own solar system. So again, this is likely from whatever it was outside of our solar system crashing down.

The spherial was magnetic, separated by a filter with a comparable mesh size. So potentially there might be many more spherules. We now know that he has nine of them so far. And when he ran it over, you can see like the magnetic sled tracks where he ran it, where they've been looking. Alex, you were going to say something. I apologize. I cut you off. I'm good.

Yeah, I'm there. Yeah. The magnetic nature of the spirials, he says, implies that we do not need the slewising device and can continue using the magnetic sled for the coming week. Finding more spherules will allow us to pinpoint. the meteor path and potentially seek a large object that may represent its core. So he's hoping like he could find the actual path and then track it to where maybe the what's left of it is resting on the ocean bed.

And then about an hour ago he posted another post just saying like the site keeps growing. They've gotten a bunch more. I've linked that down there for you as well. They have nine of them now and they all have seemingly consistent compositions, which is good. In the next seven days, they're going to be hunting for many more of the spherules using the sled. And basically, like, the sled is a big. We just talk about the sled and stuff. But this is huge.

This is a huge find. Very interesting stuff. Yeah. Again, even if it's not a piece of technology, it is scientifically. He's out there pushing science forward. And everybody who said this was a waste of time. There's now being, but that's what he was saying too is like, science interests three phases. It's ridiculed.

It's like, it's dismissed. And then it's accepted as truth. And he's like, we're, you know, we're Andrew. during the ridicule phase at this point, but what he's found is what he's found. It needs to go under more study, obviously, and he says that plenty of times. He's not stupid, but it's fascinating. I'm here for it. Yeah, he looks to get people out there who aren't, like, payroll.

You know what I mean? Like, you need scientists and researchers. Like, once they're out there, then whatever he finds, like, then it has the scientific, like, ship out some of these sphere fuels. Yeah, he does have, he does have, like, people out there that are, like, there for the studying aspect and not just the workers. They're like part of the team. You know what I mean? They need to bring like, well, yeah. They're all being fun by the same people. He knows Harvard researchers. Bring them out. You know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I agree. But regardless, like that's

fucking cool, man. Like, that's really interesting. It could be something, you know, more. That's kind of where we're at on the other side of disclosure. Yeah, it looks interesting. Even if it's not alien, it would help us discover more about our world, which I think is worth it. So, yeah, exactly. And I like it. And I like it. And I like it's like something scientific that we're looking at. We're like, oh, this doesn't have nickel. That means something to us. Maybe. Obviously, these are microscopic pieces,

so maybe the nickel just isn't in that sphere, you will. But whatever, you know? Well, they've been checking all of them so far, and they all seem to be the same. So that's good. After we're going to leave it, just a nice little light update on the Avi Lobe situations. I've been following his blog every day.

So, you know, in next week, if any big things happen, we'll talk about it. This is an article comes from the insider. It actually comes from all over the internet right now. But I'm going to take stuff from them. I'm not going to tell you the headline. Don't look it up. Don't spoil it. This is a wild tale. You got it. Let's talk drugs, shall we?

More specifically, MDMA. Or for those cool kids out there, either Molly or Ecstasy or whatever. We're about to chill out. I'm about to get thirsty. It is, it's a drug that they say it has a low to moderate addiction level, but like I've known people who perhaps took too much. I can agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. So I will say if you do, it definitely messes you up. But this whole idea of moderation, especially with drug use, more and more, researchers are looking into it. They're very curious about it.

And so MDMA is known as a drug to make people more happy with themselves. It breaks down your inhibitions, lets you communicate with others easier, right? Mushrooms are very similar. It like increases your acceptance of the world. boosts your appreciation for life. Like those are the things that people associate with it. And one of the lead researchers of a study that's happening right now, or I guess just concluded,

Harriet DeWitt is quoted as simply saying, it's what everyone says about the damn drug, that it makes people feel love. So, yeah, researchers are using MDMA in a double-blind, placebo-controlled, multi-clinical trial, just kind of see what the deal was. And one such trial that started back in 2020 We'll say a man who goes by the student named Brendan

Enrolled Possibly to take drugs just to get them for free Not really sure on that one But after the experience He filled out his exit form And wrote the following This experience has helped me sort out A debilitating personal issue

Google my name I now know what I need to do Oh, I know what this story. story is. I know. So the researchers looked up Brendan online and discovered he was an avowed white supremacist

who had lost his job after being in the like being outed as the leader of a white nationalist group and attending possibly as a key figure of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017. If you don't remember that, that was the Tickneycourt's thing.

The one where the dude ran people over with the car, like that thing. immediately concerned about what sorting out the issue or I know what I need to do meant they tracked him down. Yeah, that could be really scary reading up about what he used. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah, they were like, what?

They went and tracked him down. And he revealed to them that what he meant by all that was that he simply needed to love more. And it wasn't sinister. After his experience, he felt an overwhelming sense of empathy and sought out therapy to become a better person.

Incredible. And the researchers was like, what? And so they began to study him more. And the thing they learned is that this is a very particular thing for him. They don't know if it was because he lost his job and he was like going through it. And he was trying to like come up with an answer of like, why? Why is my life so miserable? And this just unlocked it for him because they say that MDMA, you don't jump to a conclusion.

This is like the cure to racism or whatever. because MDMA also causes fierce loyalty and the desire to protect, which may cause people to have disdain for outsiders of a group. Right? And so they're like, don't say this is a cure. But for this dude who was like struggling with his existence, it made him realize like, wait a minute, I'm the cause of my problems. And then he like went to go get help.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's fascinating. It could be trauma, you know, could be whatever. Absolutely. Yeah. It's all like MDMA, mushrooms, LSD. All this stuff needs to be re-studied for medicine purposes because this is just a personal.

Obviously, this is just a personal little story, but I did mushrooms for the very first time a couple years ago. And it was a turning point in who I am as a person. It was something that I was doing for fun. I was like, let's have a good time. And I'll never forget. I walked into the bathroom to go to the bathroom. I looked in the mirror. And I just heard my own voice in my head say, you can enjoy this until you stop hating yourself.

And it was then like a five hours. journey of breaking down my acceptance of ADHD and autism. And it was like, but it, but I, I still refer to it to my therapist of like, that was a turning, like fast forwarded healing that I needed,

that I needed to get done that I didn't realize how badly was weighing me down. And it's, it's insane. It's so hard, like it needs to be studied. They say that, you know, I mean,

one of those things where they talk about therapy or whatever, they always say like, if a person doesn't want to do it, they won't. They aren't like, If no one wants to change, they're not going to change. You can't give them a shot and make them nice, yeah. Yeah, like there's one of these things where, I'm sure we've all had experiences.

Maybe it even could be our self listener. Who knows, right? The idea that, like, you want to change, you want to be better, or you know a person who does, but they just don't do it. And so no matter how much you push them, they're never going to change. And this is one of those things where I think maybe a drug like this or shrooms or whatever, just sort of unlock something where, we're like, Oh, oh. And you take the first step.

And that's really all it is is taking the first step. Sometimes you just got to step outside of yourself. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like the two things that we know scientifically, at least about mushrooms, is that it's neuroregenerative. It like builds new pathways between like the brain that have maybe not been there. But basically like what it does is like the center court, whatever like you're where anxiety and depression live, that center part of your brain, it brings it down like from activity, almost like cold rebooting it. Gives a little smooch on the cheek, a little pat on the beehole.

Yeah, but that's where people sense, like, ego death is when that, like, it's so inactive. But then it's soft reboots it. And something about that might be treating the actual sickness instead of just the, you know, the symptoms that the medicine that we can have. It's probably goddamn grounding, too, just to feel something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a good old-fashioned ego death, I think does everyone a little good every now. I've never done it.

I want to have them before I die, though. Hell yeah. Actually, I will say. Yeah, please. Anyone out there just if you're like, drugs, A, here's my pause for you. hey, if you're going to try something for the first time, do your research. More importantly, do it in a group with friends. Have a like, Sherpa guide you.

You know what I mean? Like have someone there. You're not going to be in control of it. Let somebody smart do it. Yeah. That's the thing. Like, I did a reading for like three years before I touched mushrooms, you know? Yeah, like, don't be, like, have someone around and have someone who knows what you just took.

So if you took too much or if you have a bad reaction, they can go to a doctor and be like, this is what he took. This is how much they took. Genuine experience. Be smart. Be safe. That's all. It's chemicals.

It's chemicals, guys. Yeah. They really is. It's just flooding your brain with chemicals. If it's a mushroom, if it's like leaves, if it's a pill. It's all chemicals and it messes with you and every person's different. And every person's body will react differently. So like, be safe out there.

100%. Before you take the reins, Alex, there's one other story I did want to cover real quick. I forgot to mention. This is really cool. And yet another quantum science. thing. This comes from May 12th of last month, the last month. Physicists create essentially the biggest ever Shrodinger's cat. Oh, the one that's like real cats.

So yeah, oh yeah, all cats. They just, they do cats. No. So out in the, well, let's start from the top. This is coming from Scientific American, but there's a bunch of other news science journals that cover it. A sapphire crystal weighing 16 micrograms has become the largest object ever to exist in a quantum mechanical superposition of two vibrational states at once. Researchers at the hybrid quantum systems group at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich excited the crystal into vibrations such that its atoms oscillated back and forth simultaneously in two opposite directions, putting the entire crystal in what is known as a

state of quantum superposition. So the crystal is real but not real. Correct. They vibrated it into both states. 50% opacity. Yeah. As the research group reports, this condition is much like that of the cat in the famous thought experiment of physicist Irwin Schrodinger, which, you know, Schrodinger's quantum mechanical scenario, a cat is both alive and dead until it's measured essentially.

The sapphire crystal and the new experiment has been put in a macroscopic equivalent of that cat state. Such states can help scientists fathom how and why the laws of quantum world transition into the rules of classical physics for larger objects. That's so fucking crazy, bro. It's fucking crazy. They fucking vibrated into existence. I think we were both, we were both born at the worst time and the best time. Like we're experiencing,

like we're seeing the potential, but also I would like to be born, I don't know, 500 years from now and see like, New World inflection point is a horrific time to be born, but it's crazy. Well, this led me down another road which I hadn't known, which also feeds into this. Last year in October,

three scientists won the Nobel Prize for proving that the, universe is not locally real. Yeah. So. So. Cool. Yeah.

Uh, let's just. Basically, uh, Patreon. Uh, page around. com such the one I'd pod. See you guys laid out. So they said the blame for this achievement is now been laid squarely on the shoulders of three physicists.

John Klauser. Alain Aspect and Anton Zilinger. Uh, they equally split the 2022 Nobel Prize in physics for experiments with entangled photons establishing the violation of bell inequalities and pioneering quantum. information science. I love when science is like DC comics, bro. The violation of other science.

Like literally, literally. The experiments beginning with the earliest one of Klauser and continuing along the show that this stuff isn't just philosophical. It's real. What I love about this is that all three of these physicists got into this to prove that quantum entanglement isn't real and it's outside influences causing it. They use the kind of pseudo thought of like, you and an astronaut shake a hand and the astronaut goes into space, but you can still track back.

when the two of you interacted, and that might be keeping them, like, entangled in some way. They basically, like, we're going to prove that this is not happening. Dude, are we interstellaring right now? Very much so. Is that what this is? Like, dude, love connects us all, man. In a lot of weird ways. Very much.

Basically, the simplified and modernized version of the experiment goes something like this. Pairs of particles are sent off in different directions from a common source, targeted for two observers, Alice and Bob, stationed at opposite ends of the solar system. Quantum mechanics dictate. that it is impossible to know the spin, a quantum property of individual particles, prior to measurement, again, vibrating in two separate existences at once. Once Alice measures one of her particles,

she finds its spin to be either up or down. Her results are random, and yet when she measures up, she instantly knows that Bob's corresponding particle, which had a random indefinite spin, must now be down. At first glance, this is not so odd, maybe particles are like a pair of socks.

So, under quantum mechanics, the particles that are only measured when they settle upon a spin of up or down. This is EPR's key conundrum. If Alice's particles lack a spin until measurement, then how do they know what Bob's particles will do as they fly out of the solar system in the other direction? Each time Alice measures, she quizzes her particle on what Bob will get if he flips a coin up or down.

The odds of correctly predicting this even 200 times in a row are one in 10 to the 60th power, a number greater than the total number of atoms in the solar system. yet despite the billions of kilometers that separate the paired particles quantum mechanics says alice's particles can keep correctly predicting as though they were telepathically connected to bob's particles that's bonk wait so all right so if you two are on the opposite ends of the solar system and i flick these particles at you yep along the way if you were just to like like try to like figure it out it would be a ridiculous you couldn't do it so yeah the the the equipment's

and simultaneously information one and zero at both times until they're. Yeah, we don't know which, we don't know which way it's going to go. But once we know one, we instantly know the other. Yeah. But there is no, you can't just like guess. It's when you know it. Measure. Yeah, it's only when you know it.

Yeah, when you actually do the real measurements. But if you tried to guess, there's, it's potentially always wrong. It feels like our brain is involved. And so when you measure it and you see it, no matter what, that measurement is the opposite for Alex, for example. Yep. Always. Every time without fail.

Let me continue. I want to keep going. I know this is a bit long, but this is well worth it. Don't worry. We're going to go real long. Yeah. Typically, local hidden variable theories and quantum mechanics predict indistinguishable experimental outcomes.

What Bell realized, which was he was the guy in the 60s who kind of came up with this idea of measuring them, is that under precise circumstances, an empirical discrepancy between the two can emerge. In the eponymous Bell test, Alice and Bob received the same pair of particles. But now they each have done. two different detector settings. A and A, B, and B. These detector settings are an additional trick to throw off Alice and Bob's apparent telepathy. If in local hidden variable theories, one particle cannot know which question the other is asked. Their correlation is secretly said ahead of time.

It is not sensitive to updated detector settings. But according to quantum mechanics, when Alice and Bob used the same settings, both uppercase and lowercase, each particle is aware of the question the other is posed, and the two will correlate perfectly in sync in a way no other theory can account for. In the word, they are entangled. So like the simplified explanation, like the simplest, simplest version is if you have two pairs of socks, and let's say they're like those Nike socks that have left and right written on them, and you take them and you throw them in the dryer, if you close your eyes and pull one out, and it says left, you know the other one is right, right?

Correct. And so this is saying that if you have like not only blindfold, but like if you do multiple steps in between, it's still whatever one you pull out is going to obviously be left, for example. It's going to be the other one left inside is right, no matter what. It's like when SpongeBob reaches for the candy bar and the vending machine and the bus comes in behind him and then he reaches his hand away from the candy machine and the bus goes away.

It's a perpetual It's a perpetual Both So like But like no matter what they do Every time If I had to like Wait till you hear

They went through to test this shit dude It's nuts So And no matter what It was still It every time So But this is just a particle level

This is like Well this is a particle They're saying one atom That are paired Right I'm trying to feel like I'm trying to figure out Mentally Like how that extrapolates

To the unit You know what I mean? I don't think we know. I don't think we really know. Yeah. I don't. That's exactly it, right? So like this,

the idea for this test was actually created in 1967 by a guy named Klauser. He thought up a kayak-sized apparatus that required careful tuning by hand. Pairs of photons would be sent in opposite directions. But it wasn't like perfect. He, he tested it. It came up quantum science essentially. But he still said there were way too many loopholes, potentially external factors that he was unable to measure in his small test.

And closing the locality loophole, which is what he calls it, is way easier said than done. other loopholes remained and Bell died in 1990 without witnessing the closure of these loopholes. So fast forward a few years and these other people, as they're doing research, stumble across his journal in a library while they're doing it. They see the test and they're like, I think we can do this. So they call the right people, they get the approval to do so, and then they begin to build this thing. In 1997, after he was dead. In 1997, this Anton Zellinger and his team improved on aspects earlier work. by conducting a Bell test over a then unprecedented distance of nearly half a kilometer.

The era of divining reality's non-locality from kayak-sized experiments are now moving forward. And finally, in 2013, Zellinger's group took the next logical step, tackling multiple loopholes at the same time. Again, they're like Bell. They're trying to prove that it's outside influence causing it. Before quantum mechanics, I actually was interested in engineering. I like building things with my hand, says Marissa Gustiana, a quantum researcher at Google.

In retrospect, a Lupo-Free Bell experiment is a giant systems engineering project. One requirement for creating experimenting. So basically, they created an unoccupied 60-meter tunnel with access to fiber optic cables, and it turned out the dungeon of Vienna's Hofberg Palace was the perfect place to do it. And their results published in 2015, once again coincided with similar tests from the other two groups that also found quantum mechanics as flawless as ever. So there was still one huge loophole, and this is what earned in the Nobel Prize. One great final loophole remained to be closed, or at least narrowed.

Any prior physical connection between components, no matter how distant in the past, has the possibility of interfering with the validity of a bell test results. If Alice shakes Bob's hand prior to departing on a spaceship, as I said earlier, they share a past. It is seemingly implausible that a local hidden variable theory would exploit these loopholes, but it's still possible. So in 2016... Love, dude. In 2016, a team that include Kaiser and Zellinger performed a cosmic bell test.

Using telescopes in the Canary Islands, the researchers sourced random decisions for detector settings from stars sufficiently apart in the sky that light from one would not reach the other for hundreds of years, ensuring a centuries spanning gap in their shared cosmic past. Yet, even then, quantum mechanics again proved triumphant. One of the principal difficulties in explaining the importance of the bell test of the public, as well as to skeptical physicists, is the perception that the veracity of quantum mechanics was a foregone conclusion. After all, researchers have measured many aspects of quantum mechanics to the precision of greater than 10 parts in a billion. It absolutely messes with my perception of reality. Yeah, but the accuracy of the quantum mechanics could not rule out the possibility of local hidden variables. Only bell tests could do that. and then they did it all the way to a interstellar scale,

and it still held true. And then that that feeds into the thing we just did to Sapphire last month, who we fucking vibrated it into a state of quantum superposition. That's literally the flash. That's literally how the flash leaves the universe. Do you guys get the feeling that like this is either the thing that changes humanity forever or the thing that like swallows Earth and we all cease to be? You know what I mean?

Like, yeah. It really does like when we realize what reality might, if we can even figure it out. But imagine there's like a million of you all just right here making microscopic different decisions that just all happen all at once. And we are simply perceiving this one because we are, as we perceive it, the quantum quibbets line up.

And it's just like, then maybe we're all brain melting out of your fucking ears, man. We're all immortal and also living in separate realities, kind of where we're each, the center of our own. But the thing is, this is tested science now. They won Nobel Prizes.

We in 2023 put Sapphire into the same. It's real. We don't know what it means. Like we are recognizing it. We're seeing it. We just don't know. Like, what I love about the story is that it's very similar to when we had John on to talk about dirty tricks.

And the idea of just like, yeah, I was in the line. Found this stuff. And I figured I've researched. I love, yo, shout out to researchers and just like big science nerds and history. The romance. being like, yeah, look at this thing. And I was like, no one's done anything.

I guess I'll look into it. That's amazing. There's so many alien documents like that, Jesse, I'm telling you. If you go down that hole, you'll never come out. You'll never come out. But yeah, it's crazy. Like literally on a just, he opened a journal and was like, huh, huh. Oh, yeah, that would work.

And then this. Fascinating. Did it and did it and did it. And then they did to two stars. And it just, yeah, it really like, it leaves me with the question of like, man, it almost frees me a little bit. I love the idea of like, reality is like, fucking unknowable. So why str.

ass like we exist in this version of it who knows what the real what real even means fuck it and speaking of that let's talk about the redstone the stone well if you if you believe hard enough maybe we can vibrate it into a state of existence anything's real yeah technically well wrote in your story right here i think you guys are never going to predict where today's going to go you guys welcome to joseppe la rosa and the order of meonia the stones of the tree of life part two like i said this is our second big arc of story this is a continuation from the story in the previous minisodes

based mostly on the book of Chronicles of Maonia by Giuseppe, aka Joe La Rosa so if you want the whole thing, go back and start in Minnesota episode 133. I said this in the show and I meant it. This one is a big one for reveals and lore, you guys, so get ready. Here we go.

Also Mathis has to read a bunch. Here we go. Last time, we left our heroes with a phone call from the Meshavius God Pan who told them that there were beings from elsewhere in the galaxy who wanted to come to Earth, but that somehow their spirits arrived

on Earth way earlier than their bodies, so to bide their time, they hid themselves inside of Earth animal forms, and soon the Nine or the Project, which Giuseppe is trying to make a thing happen, he's trying to make it the project in this book,

we're going to witness their arrival and that in the wake of this moment, the whole world is going to change. Like a historic shift is about to happen. And this all happened in late 1982. And then months and months of thumb twiddling went by for Giuseppe until the following May of 1983 when he discovered that once again and again, I still don't know if I am manufacturing this part of the narrative myself or not. But he found out that he'd been left behind again by Graham and the crew when Graham was

visited psychically by another previous leader of his ancient order of meonia, a woman this time from the early 1900s called Margaret and whose last name has once again been redacted at the request of her living relatives. So she's just going to be called Lady Margaret for this. Margaret had seemed to have foreknowledge that the Shottons would be living in the cottage that they lived in, possibly even having met Pat Shotton, who was Terry's wife when she was really young. And she told him that something they needed to find was buried in a field nearby the cottage. She did not give them any specific coordinates, though, so when Graham, Andy, and Terry went out there to retrieve it,

Graham felt that he should douse for it to find it. And weirdly, that is exactly what happened. They went straight to it, found it, no big deal, easy-peasy, did the thing where you drop it and it falls to, like, know where you start digging. Totally worked. So, sure enough, after just a little digging, they were already sure that they were in the right place, and a little while later they pulled a near centuries old,

maybe like 100-year-old glass beer bottle out of the grass. So let's say about a 100-year-old beer bottle out of the grass and soil. Found some papers rolled up inside. However, Graham didn't want to actually open the bottle until he had the whole group together for some reason, which is where Joe found himself in May hearing about the stuff that went down while he wasn't there or just unavailable or whatever the hell is going on

with why he is not there for so much of what goes on. Alan had not arrived yet when Graham finally decided that it was now time to open the bottle, but weirdly, just as soon as they popped the cork on the bottle, Alan came right in the front door like Graham knew he was going to show up. So that's pretty weird. Inside were some pages, which looked like they'd been torn from a book, a handwritten letter, and a couple really skilled line-drawing sketches. Okay?

Inside the letter were instructions that only the lady of the house should read the letter aloud, which in this case was Pat Schotton, Terry's wife. Terry was the target of the Guardian during the Redstone debacle. So this is Pat Schotton, now his wife was going to read this. So she took it into the other room for a moment alone to go over it, read it through herself, came back in the room, told everyone that the letter was from Lady Margaret and that she was going to read everything to the group

except the last remarks which she should keep to herself and then burn the letter. Luckily, though, we have the full text of the letter here for Mathis to read so we don't miss out on one delicious morsel. Well, what about it? She didn't burn the letter? No, she did not. But we'll get to that in a minute.

I am going- Can't burn a letter when you have proof like that. We'll get there. We'll get there. I'm going to send you this first bit, and then when you get to the end, I'll send you the second half. My friends, I do not know that you shall discover my legacy,

but I do know that you are my successors. Each generation has now been employed, so I also know that this will be the time of the gathering. When I leave you is not, what I leave you is not knowledge you will need. I leave this message. as I have been instructed, written in pencil, and left in so simple a vessel. At least one of you will live at the cottage, a place of such fond memories for me.

Only the lady of the house must read this message. Read it aloud to your friends. The final remarks, however, you must not repeat. That is only for you, my dear. After you have done, sis, set fire to this message. Keep the drawings and book. This is meonia. When a creature develops the capacity for knowing,

the light rejoices through the darkness, though the darkness cries out for the light may have been made greater and the darkness recede for a knowing is the microcosm of all in each enlightened soul is all light but transcendence from knowing to enlightenment seldom occurs once some who transcended were of the darkness and there was created untold devastation thus there is the test in eight stages humanity has been directed toward this time of the final test during human history eight times has she worked through one who is mortal, each of them using one of the eight rays of knowledge, all formed as a gem to aid them in their task. Sayer held the black, Athena held the purple, Guevara held the red, Edith held the yellow, Mary Stewart held the green, Elizabeth Stewart held the gray, Mary Heath held the orange, and I, Margaret, held the blue.

It's morphine time! Captain Planet! We need teenagers with attitude. On the first three... Wait, wait, wait, we're talking about real quick. Real quick, Mathis, can you just say, I, I, I, aye, I Rangers real quick? Oh, yeah, there you go.

I, aye, aye, Rangers! Oh, my God, it's like too good. It works. Check it out. Glad it worked, okay. On the first three occasions, the one herself was manifest. Only four times would she come.

Once a queen, once a warrior, and once in Mathis's bed, once a priestess, finally a common... That's not what it says. No, okay. After each stone was used, it was hidden or given over to safekeeping so that at the final time, they would be gathered for the final test.

When the eight gems have been retrieved, then the ninth shall be used in transcendence. Accomplished, accomplished, accomplished. Okay, here's a little bit more for you. There are many branches upon the tree, but only one will bear fruit. At the final test, all other branches will return to dust.

The fate of this branch lies with you, my successors. I do not know the nature of the final test, but I have the knowledge that will help you in your quest to gather the eight gems. The dark ones, known as Thanos, will try to stop you, so these things will aid you. Firstly, you should know about the sword. The sword could slay the beast.

It lay in the sacred tomb, undiscovered, for many a century until it was unearthed. Then the murderer, later born of that family who possessed the sword, came under the power of the beast. In your time, the beast shall be manifest, and he will possess the sword. It may yet be his undoing. I believe that it will be of benefit for you to know how it was found. One of us wrote about it, so I leave you a part of this book.

Secondly, you should know about the chalice. A cup was also fashioned by Gwevera. This is the lore of dark souls And I am Voddy Vidya It really is This cup which has been called the Grail Made it possible to commune directly with She

And you will need it to guide you As I have been instructed I leave you a drawing of its location There you will find the chalice of Gwebera I also leave you a picture of Mary Mary Heath that is The only picture I know of her I'm sure you will know of Mary

I do not know quite why I should do this finally I must tell you of the power of each gem but from here on the letter is private so that's where it ends for now yeah and so that's as far as she read the letter out loud she put it away in her pocket they started to put their heads together

to think about what they could do now now that they knew what the score is we got these eight gems we got to get these guys are coming for the final test of humanity it's going to be some serious business but with nothing yet to go on for the stones they look to the one clue they have which is to check out the drawing to see if anybody understands what that old ruined castle is

that they're looking at that will lead them to the chalice of Guevro. Or Guevara. Nothing immediately comes to anyone's mind, though, so they all agree just to be on the lookout for it. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, a month sneaks by. They all have a copy of the picture. They're just like, when I think of it, I will look into it, try and find it. And then, again, maybe it's just me. but it does seem kind of weird that literally once again

Giuseppe finds out after the fact that Terry Graham and Alan went off and did an adventure without him Apparently Oh you're giving Giuseppe again I know apparently Terry had the sudden realization that the building in the drawing Was a place called Stafford Castle So he immediately phones up the other two cool kids in the group Terry uh Graham and Allen

And Graham grabs a mirror on their way out the door for some reason even though he doesn't fully understand why, and they head out there, arriving near midnight, with no leads of any kind, just sort of wandering up the hill with some flashlights, towards the castle. But suddenly, Graham is struck with the psychic suggestion

that they should turn around and look at the castle backwards through the mirror. And when they do, they see a robed white figure walking along the parapet of the castle, and speaking psychically through Graham, he says that he's another Celtic god called Bram, whose head was buried at White Hill in England

to keep England safe from being invaded for centuries. He says that they are prisoners of their reality and that they should shine their flashlights through the mirror towards one of the castle windows where they see their first vision of the jewel-encrusted chalice, possibly the Holy Grail, when they do with their flashlight. I mean, what is a better story? This are mazes and monsters with Tom Hanks?

It's a toss-up for me. I'm pretty sure it's the same story. Yeah, pretty much. It's, you know, it just depends on, like, whose point of view it's from, right? Tom Hanks or his friends who are living in reality. Joe also mentions that he appeared, Joe also mentions that he appeared visibly upset to the group after not being invited to go on the adventure,

which could be character growth. Yeah, he spoke up. But apparently because he does this, the next time that Alan Graham and Terry meet up next, Joe's there too. and now to close us out for today Jesse's going to tease us with what Graham said next which kind of explains maybe why they were doing stuff

off by themselves for a while and this is where we go This is a fucking orgy without them they're experimenting Now you're here Joe A few years on what's happening I believe the next object that we have to find Is the blue stone What I intend to do is to see if I communicate With another gram

and a different dimension and C of E has any information concerning the Bluestone in this oh in his reality cool wait a minute and that is where the story

will be continued are you kidding me minisode patreon like I'm going to reach out to my alternate reality self I'm going to try you know what I'm going to try it

fuck you I'll give it a shot fuck you Alex fuck the story we'll meet some other characters next time that maybe we've already met Graham who doesn't mention hop

we're about to reality hop. Just sit back, relax, get ready for a ride that can only be told in 10 second bursts. We know about quantum science, maybe it is real. That's what I'm saying. It's all planned out. I already went ahead in time and saw all this happen. So this is going to be really satisfying.

And this is going to be the biggest podcast of all time. I love you guys. Goodbye everybody. I love you. See you next week. Thanks for watching. Boy. Hey, guess who?

I'm back. Back again after slaying Cthulhu Returning him back to the depths of the blue But I'm sick of this curse I'm yearning to burst To remain on this earth I can't think I'm much worse So thank the gods Well the ones who still live

That I know what to do about this pickle I'm in All I need is a vessel Give me weed Because I'm special Last time around I escaped an asylum This time around I just want to get high Let me call it my guy Because he'll get the assignment

Space man they call me Cause I'm a star pilot Wait, who are you guys? I want to be... I want to be... I just want to see the story. I just want to see the stone. Probably the best take I've had.

The whole... I have deleted so many takes and that was terrible, but it was still by the best one I had. Good Lord.