Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: Roman Artifact Found in Americas?
Episode Date: June 10, 2026This Minisode was originally uploaded with Episode 342: Listener Stories - some of the topics discussed might be outdated. Subscribe to our Patreon to listen and watch the Minisodes as they release ev...ery week! http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPODMike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/Editor: DeanCutty Producer: Hilde @ https://bsky.app/profile/heksen.bsky.social Show Art: Studio Melectro @ http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro Logo Design: Shawn JPB @ https://twitter.com/JetpackBragginLinks:Wrong Clothes, Extra Shoes, Missing Birthmark: https://www.reddit.com/r/Paranormal/comments/1rui599/wrong_clothes_extra_shoes_missing_birthmarkmy/ Palm Beach Pete: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1rygr7e/the_jeffery_epstein_doppelganger/ Roman Artifact Found in Americas: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15658855/roman-artifact-americas-new-world-history.html
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What's up?
It's up.
It's that brain-wavering connection, though?
I am delirious because I'm like sunburnt from heat stroke from the desert.
I'm dead.
You guys just read R.E.9.
You guys had a long couple days.
It's been a great day.
I found a story the other day that tripped me out so much.
And I bookmarked it because I wanted to read it on the show.
But I was on my way to Phoenix in a car when I found it.
So it was really weird.
Bizar one.
So here we go.
Okay.
This one's called.
Wrong clothes, extra shoes, missing birthmark. My mother said I wasn't her son.
Hi everyone. This one, this is one strange thing that happened to me over 35 years ago.
When I was six years old, I got lost for two days. This happened in the countryside while I was
spending all summer with my grandmother. I cannot remember much from the time I was missing,
but I remember what they told me I had said at the time. I used to sleep in the room with another
four kids. One was my brother.
and the others were my cousins.
Another three people slept in the house,
my grandmother, my uncle, and my aunt.
Sunday morning, my grandmother,
and my uncle woke up very early
to feed the animals and prepare for church.
At seven, when they came to wake us all up
to go to church, I was not there.
My shoes were there,
and only the t-shirt and shorts I was wearing were missing.
They called the police and my parents
who were living 700 kilometers away.
They searched with dogs,
but found no lead far from the house.
Two days later, after two days, I was found in a forest 11 kilometers away by some hunters.
They took me to the police station in the next village.
And they brought me, it's about seven miles.
And they brought me to the other police station in the village where my grandmother lived.
I was not dirty or hungry and not even scared.
I had a book in my hand and my clothes were way too small for me.
They had to cut off the shirt I was wearing because I could not get it off.
I was the same, but my clothes were not my size.
Most disturbing was the fact that I was wearing shoes when they found me in the woods,
but I had my original shoes at home.
A few years ago, my nephew became a police officer and found the files.
He sent them to me.
This is pretty much what I had told the police.
I told them that I came from home.
Okay, this is pretty much why I told the police at the time.
I told them that I came from the school, but I was too young for the school.
I told them that they taught me to be me, they taught me who I am, and how I am.
I was sleeping in a room with many kids, boys and girls, and we were eating vegetables.
On the windows, we saw only water, like under the water, but with no fish.
All the teachers there looked the same, and we called them just teacher.
Every child had been given a name and had to learn about his new life and family.
Apparently, they showed us on screens pictures of the families we would join.
The book in my hand was printed with photos of my family, close relatives, family friends,
neighbors, and even the personnel and kids from the daycare where I was going.
I knew all the names of these people, but not personal details about any of them.
I was in the police station two times, and another three times they came and questioned me at home.
They have a total of seven hours of questioning on our.
audio tapes. The next part is probably the most unsettling in the story. And we came back to my
grandmother's house. My mother said that I was not her son. She saw that my birth mark on her on the left
ear was missing. It was a pretty obvious mark that she had refused to have cut at my birth.
She had made a big deal of it and even went back to the police with pictures to prove I was not
her child and to make them search for me. They didn't take it seriously, but filed her report at the time.
My grandmother used to have three dogs around the house that did not recognize me anymore,
and my uncle was forced to cage them for a while.
Her parents took me home after three weeks, but my mother was not happy about it.
Two years later, my youngest brother was born, and he was born with the same birthmark as me.
One day, when I was playing with him, my mother told me,
my first son used to have the same birthmark as him, two small grapes hanging on the left ear.
Add some trauma.
If this is a, where does this story come from?
Zan, our paranormal.
That's so, yeah, I don't know.
That's like such a, that would ruin, that would break a child forever in so many ways.
Right.
I remember many times she was asking me, who are you?
Where is my son?
Is he okay?
She took care of me, but she was cold.
She never attended my graduations even when I was first in the class all the time.
When I went to college in another city, she threw away
all my stuff back home and my room has been empty since that day. There is no picture inside the
house with me, only of me before the disappearance. I don't know if that affected the way I am
because sincerely I was not bothered too much about that. I was feeling like an intruder anyway,
and I never had the need for a home or a friend. When I finished college, I got into the military
and became a pilot. Mr. for 15 years and then I quit. The best time for me is flying and boating. I'd like
to be alone and to be quiet. My social skills come alive only when I drink alcohol, but I'm not
much of a drinker. I'm not special in any shape or form. I am living a normal lifestyle. I did not
change the world for the better or worse, but I have a feeling that I don't belong anywhere.
So why the change? Why would someone bother to replace him with me? But maybe he was the special one.
Maybe he is somewhere doing big things while I'm just a replacement piece in a puzzle that didn't
even need that piece to work perfectly fine.
There's actually more to this story, but I didn't want to make the post too long.
Over the years, I tried to investigate it myself after my nephew sent me the police file.
I asked questions, search for records, and tried to understand what really happened during those
two days.
But many things are difficult to verify.
This happened during the communist period in my country when records were not always transparent
and the police worked very differently than today.
And then there's an edit.
and it says, hi, everyone.
I didn't expect that so many people will read my story.
I've tried to respond to most of your questions,
but it is not easy because currently I'm in a training program
that takes most of my day.
Thursday, I'll be back with the second part of my story,
and I'll try to address the most common questions.
Thank you.
Thank you for your patience for the many nice words and wishes addressed to me.
And I'm going to check their posts.
Can't see their posts for some reason.
but it's a pretty scary story.
That is fascinating.
Yeah,
that's wild.
Un settling story.
Something I,
the kind that I never,
like I never heard that one exactly before.
I remember there was that movie with,
who is it,
Angelina Jolie maybe.
Oh yes.
Yeah,
yeah.
She's like,
that's not my boy.
Yeah,
I think it was like a Clint Eastwood movie.
It's called like Changeling or something like that.
Oh,
okay.
But it's not like weird like this.
Like in that,
I think it ends up being,
like very mundane like you know like something like somebody kidnapped her kid and replaced them
with another and then like they found another kid and it wasn't her kid but she treated it like her
kid this one the thing that the kid says is so fucking weird i went i came from the school that
teaches me about me yeah that whole bit that was very interesting almost like human clone for some
reason like to me one of the best stories i've ever read on our paranormal i don't know that's that's
That's really good.
Fucking spellbinding.
It is bizarre.
Yeah.
Well,
I got two quick little things if we want to knock them out real quick.
Yeah, let's do it.
One,
obviously,
I have talk about it because everybody's telling me it's there.
The government has registered both UFO.gov and UFOs.
gov.
And when reached out for a comment on social media,
I forget who it was,
some department said,
stay tuned with an alien emoji.
Absolutely.
I think this is bad news.
Yeah,
I don't see anything.
I don't this, I don't, this administration.
I have no faith to trust.
Nothing they do.
You know for a fact, the web page is going to be like,
they came to me with tears in their eyes.
They say, Mr. President, you're the only one to disclose aliens.
Yeah.
You know what's going to happen.
Yeah, it's going to be ridiculous.
I don't know what to make of it.
I don't know what the fuck.
Like, realistically,
all I can see is them doing, like, putting up documents that have already been declassified
before in one spot.
Puff piece.
Yeah, like nothing, nothing substantial in any sort of way.
Unless it's going to, unless it's like big fakeies time now.
Like I, you know, I'm not trying to prep.
I'm not trying to say, oh, the government's going to fake.
Like, I will see what they do, right?
But I just feel like for this to have any sort of impact, it needs to have some sort of scoop, fresh news, some kind of interesting story that they can share.
But I, I have big doubt on that.
Did you guys see the Hollywood reporter?
had an article.
By the way,
don't bother going to you'll look at it.
It's one of those like you have to pay
to see the whole thing.
So then no, I have not.
But the article essentially is like,
is,
I guess there's now,
besides Spielberg's disclosure movie,
there are other disclosure based movies happening.
And the recent quote from Spielberg
saying he believed not only are they real,
but they're among us.
Yeah.
Well, apparently a lot of studios
are investing now in disclosure based movies.
And everyone,
the Holly Reporter article is literally about like,
is this a sign of like something changing?
I genuinely believe it's the opposite.
I think it's all these people in Hollywood are seeing that right now it's topical to be talking about this stuff and they're cashing in on it.
That's what I think.
And I think the government's doing the same thing.
They made this website thing.
They do all because people are interested now.
And so they're like, well, let's cash in on the interest.
I don't think it's them being like, yes, we know things.
And we're going to tell you in a movie.
I promise you, Spielberg's.
not going to disclose the aliens are real at the end of the movie. It's not. No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not. But the conspiratorial take is the Hollywood movies are preparing the general psyche
of the population to be less surprised. Can I say that on the first episode of Chulamani though?
It also, it's also MJ12. Like, it's in the MJ12 documents. Like, that whole thing is like,
we soften it by introducing them in pop media more. And then when they finally, but like, this is cyclical.
We've done this before. I agree. Oh, I agree with you.
In the 90s, we had alien movies a bunch.
In the 70s, we had a bunch of alien.
It just keeps happening again and again because that's like, it happens.
That's, and Spielberg is 100% the dude who's behind all of those, by the way.
Yes.
Every one of those like resurgence and UFO stuff is Spielberg makes an alien movie.
Other people start making alien movies.
It just happens every time.
Go back and look at the record.
It's hilarious.
He is the only one I think knows more than we know.
And especially because he's working with.
he's the only one willing to believe there's more
going to have a little bit of access.
I think he's just rich enough to have a little access.
Purely money.
I mean, even on close encounters,
he had Jacques Valet on there.
He had He had Heinek on there working with him.
The more important thing is his mindset to me.
You know what I mean?
It seems like he's not being a fucking idiot about it.
He understands why we're,
people like us are angry when fucking Lou Elizondo comes on to fucking
give us a chop board.
Yeah.
Like good, good Lord.
That made me so.
I'm still mad.
I'm still mad about it.
about that um but yeah i mean the other that yeah the other small piece of news is just have you boys
seen the unfortunate jeffrey epstein doppelganger dude no the guy that was exactly like he he had
to make a video today his name's like uh something p i forget his name i'm gonna give you a link
but this guy literally looks exactly exactly fstein like epstein to the point where you're like
oh when i first saw the video because there's somebody from the original video is somebody another
car coming up to this guy who's in a convertible just filming him and like the profile is like oh my
god to the point where he had to come live and be like no dude that was just some stranger basically
uh filming me he's like i'm not epstein and there's a link of him you got to look at him like look at him
he looks at this guy talking it's like he looks he looks exactly like jeffrey he looks exactly like him
from the side he looks a lot like even dead on he looks pretty close to him like it's not as
His lower, like from nose down is different.
The footage of him, the footage of him in the fucking convertible that is like the source of all this looks like fucking Jeff.
Just like him.
Yeah.
That's insane.
But what was I going to say?
Oh, people always say Anthony Burdane looks like him too, but I don't really.
I get what they mean.
A little bit.
Yeah.
I see.
People saying he looks exactly like him.
So I'm always like, no, he does.
No.
No.
No.
I would not mistake Anthony Bordane for fucking Epstein.
ever. What's, what's his, what's his name? What's this guy? This guy is so funny. This guy said,
I'm Palm Beach Pete and all the companies are like, uh-huh, sure, Jeff. Yeah, it's an unfortunate
dude. Somebody said if it was, if this was me, I'd immediately grow a beard so down to my toes and
never shave. This guy said, I don't think he's Epstein, but frankly, anyone named Palm Beach
Pete sounds like an equally shady character. Palm Beach Pete, he's not, he's obviously not
Epstein. No. Clearly not, but what a crazy, unfortunate time to be looking like. Yeah, that's so funny.
Yeah. Amazing. Jesse, do you have anything to take us out of here? I got two little quick boys that I felt were very interesting.
The first one is, again, it's from the Daily Mail, so, you know, take it with no grains of salt.
Or one grain, I don't know, whatever the minimal amount of grains you should take with something that could be.
I'll have a grain. Bunkus. A grain here or there. But an article says a Roman artifact was discovered
in the Americas, and this could shatter new world history as we know it.
Apparently, a Roman artifact was discovered.
It's known as the tegoxic cali-law-caca head.
Boy, I hope it said that right.
It's discovered in 1933 inside a pre-Hispanic burial beneath multiple intact layers.
And this head, they claim, and I will send you an image.
You can just see what it looks like.
This head, they claim, is one that is Greco-Roman featured, and the archaeologist who found it said that it dates back to the Roman Empire around 200 AD.
At least that's what they're saying.
But the barrel site itself is from the 15th century.
So again, there's time discrepancies.
But what I found interesting about this is them saying it upsets what we know about the foundations of the Americas, because any history teacher, and as a former one, I can tell you that,
not only do we have the history of the, oh man, I want to say the Alluette people, which came across the Bering Strait and the Bering Sea into America as in like 2000 BC.
There's the ancestors of the Navajo who came in like 8,000 BC, the ancestors of like the Sioux and the Comanche and the Aztecs and the Mayans and the Iroquois.
There's a bunch of others I'm forgetting.
We're like the land bridge that we all think of when we think of the land bridge across from Russia to Alaska.
And then you have, um,
Norse Vikings.
Leif Erickson is a known story.
You have the Polynesian people that came here.
And then finally Columbus's ass came over.
And I think it's just very,
it's like a very European-centric vibe of like,
nothing was happening there until Columbus rolled up.
And it's like very clear.
So much.
Hell, there's even books now being written about the Chinese treasure fleets,
finding the Americas in the early 1400s.
Yeah, yeah.
I never fucking know.
Like, who knows?
Who knows when some guy just decided to go?
Once the ships were invented,
you might as well ride it all off.
There are people who left.
Yeah.
There are people who went on voyages and many of them left with no intention of ever coming back.
They weren't like Columbus where they were trying to trade shit.
They were trying to escape some nonsense and found a new life.
And they just stayed there.
Yeah.
No, I, yeah, it makes total sense like that this shit would happen.
That we'll eventually discover this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
but it doesn't shake the foundations of anything.
Yeah, I just thought that was silly that they're like,
it will change everything we know.
But speaking of changing everything we know,
this one's great.
So we are finding
even more asteroids and meteors in space
that have all the building blocks,
not just one or two,
all five building blocks of DNA.
And so,
yeah, we just found another one.
This one is from, oh boy,
it is the Ryugu asteroid.
Nice job.
And basically all the nuclear bases for DNA are there.
And it is one of those things where we sent a little guy up there and dug stuff up and brought him back.
And it looks like there is stuff there that is the building blocks for life.
And what's fascinating about this is that the scientists are like, okay, the takeaway should not be that we came from space.
The takeaway should be that.
Why? Well, because they're saying that there's no evidence of that.
Like, an asteroid hit us and then that we came from space and we're like,
but what he said,
but what they do say is what this should tell everyone is that the building blocks for existence,
at least the way we understand it, are everywhere in the universe.
That's what I'm saying.
That's, that's what makes sense to me is like,
what if life is a lot more common than we could possibly imagine?
Because if the building blocks are common,
then it's then it would be everywhere from not it doesn't have to be fucking bipedal or conscious life
anything from a single like celled organism to simple animal life like if the components are
always out there like we're finding of course we're gonna then of course the jump i guess the jump
shouldn't be but there should be a larger assumption maybe that life is probably more common
than we typically thought if there are if there are things feeding off lava at the bottom of the
ocean.
Literally.
If there are things in nuclear wastelands eating the,
they're a thing that eats plastic.
Yeah.
What about Mars?
That's what it's like there is very clearly,
the potential for life everywhere.
And just informs we may not truly understand.
But if,
and so they're saying that if there's multiple because we got it,
what was the other comment that the,
oh,
Benu,
the other one where we found all five blocks for like,
they're like,
that's two separate things that we found.
and we're just starting to explore this stuff,
which means...
And we're a tiny speck and a tiny speck and a tiny speck and we're finding it.
Yeah, potentially.
We're on the ass end of this solar, of this galaxy.
There's...
The potential for life out there is massive.
And I honestly like the idea that, like, look,
don't get caught up in the like,
we're space people.
Get caught up in the fact that, like,
they're definitely space people.
There's life.
Yeah, what if life is a rule of the universe
just as a part of its career?
It feels very much.
like it is, doesn't it? It does. It just feels like everything the universe is doing. It's,
it's just like it leads to experience and existence of some form. It seems pretty unlikely that
I have a hopeful attitude of like, yeah, I have a more like Vulcan coded attitude of like,
hey man, we're all together in this great tapestry of the universe. And like, I love that. I think that's
great. And honestly, I know people are scared to death, not me. Fuck it. Let's go. I bring it all on.
I would love this. I would love this. You and all your other parlius. I would love this. You and all your
other parallel jesse's all of them yeah all my little white blood cell jessies would be like come on let's go
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