Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: Space Continues to Baffle

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

From Minisode 206 on Patreon, November 2024 All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

My fact this week is that Andy Warhol would regularly have his wig cut by a barber and then return the following month wearing a new longer wig. Hello, we are No Such Thing As A Fish. We are a British podcast all about facts and trivia and everything interesting in the whole wide world. We cover everything from pufferfish rectums to the moon to mangrove forest. What else do we do James? Oh well what about the fact that in 1936 a robot in California shot its inventor in the head. There you go. If you're intrigued to hear more peppered with some bad puns and some crude jokes then check us out. We are no such thing as a fish. Hello everybody and welcome to Mesa 206 with a very special guest Cranador. Welcome. Thank you.

Honestly, thank you. That's more than Jesse has ever done. I appreciate that. Just give it a little. Just give it a little. Yeah. No attack. I take that from the beginning of every scary game squad. Thank you. That's more than Jesse's ever done.

Yeah. No attack. Every scary game squad. Everybody. Jesse Cox here. Mini-sode number four. Hey everybody, welcome to the cities. In mini-zone number 4,000. Hey, what's going on? You ever realize we all have beards? We are doing a podcast as well.

You think the vibe would be different if somebody didn't have a beard? I feel like it does make you different. We frequently have non-bearded guests and I will say it's always awkward. Yeah. It's it does make you different we frequently have done bearded guests, and I will say it's always awkward mm-hmm Yeah, they don't always weird I haven't done in a little while But I bounce back and forth between the mustache and the beard and it changed you know what it changed how people treat you

Yeah, the mustache I Would walk on the other side of the street if I saw you coming out of the street Yeah, where what you normally wear with a mustache. I'd be like, that guy's going to touch my butt. I walked into that bar in Echo park with, I forget what it's called. The 4,100, the 3,100, wherever the fuck it's called. I walked right in the bartender said, Hey Magnum PI. All right. You dress like Magnum PI though. That's a thing. I know. You dress like Magnum P.I. though.

That's a thing. Yeah, I know. I get it. I get where he was going. Yeah, yeah. I guess it's better than Lebowski, but still funny. But you just, you get treated differently. Everybody says, everybody mentions pornography

when you have a mustache all the time. True. Yeah. Pornography and pedophilia are the two the two peas as I actually correct. Yeah. The two pieces I called it. Let's get away from pedophilia and pornography and off to Jesse who's very excited about something. So I really want to know what it is. I am excited about this. Hey, astronomers using the James Web's Web telescope, which is the thing we've talked about frequently on here. Love that. Um, using it to peer back, which is the thing we've talked about frequently on here. Love that thing.

Using it to peer back in time to the farthest reaches of the universe, I found some stunning evidence for an alternate theory of gravity. Back in 1983, an alternate theory of gravity called Modified Newtonian Dynamics or MOND, proposed by Morda Heimilgram, suggested that the universe

formed very quickly and the theoretical concept of dark matter isn't even a thing. There's no such thing as dark matter. Now researchers at Case Western have scans of ancient galaxies and it seems to contradict the predictive models based on what we currently use, which is the cold dark matter theory, and it seems to more closely align with MOND. The original model, this cold dark matter, long posited that dark matter is essential for explaining any structure in the universe at all, and according to this model, dark matter's gravitational influence shaped galaxies and caused the formation of large-scale structures, it predicts the ancient galaxies in the earliest parts of the universe would in fact be very

small and dim and they were gradually pushed together by dark matter over cosmic time. Instead, newly observed galaxies appear bright, large, and fully formed, even as scientists peer deeper into the universe's past, this unexpected brightness directly challenges the conventional understanding of galaxies forming the way they do by dark matter. This is a quote from Stacey McGough. Astronomers invented dark matter to explain how you get from a very smooth early universe to big galaxies with lots of empty space in between them that we see today. And so again, dark matter is just a

concept, right? The biggest problem with all this though is that so far the original cold dark matter theory has been absolutely correct in predicting everything we know about the universe since the 1920s. Evidence, you know, for pretty much everything going on, from even the cosmological constant of the universe perpetually expanding, like all the different things we know have been correct based on this original model, except now we're peering back in time and we're discovering that it may not be completely correct, which is super interesting. And really it just goes to show

that scientists at the end of the day, it's that big, you know, it's very philosophical idea that the more you know, the less you know. It's trippy to hear. Can I just say that Mordehai Milgrom sounds like Lord of the Rings character. Hell yeah. They're like, we must find the neutral wizard. He is good no good or evil he lives in the mountains more to high middle the balanced wizard never gets angry and shows no emotion he always sits at exactly 90 degrees the neutral wizard dude he does he's not good or dark mattered he's all right he's just always he just invented PlayStation seven thousand years before I got

something kind of cool this goes with space I'm gonna give you all a link if you want to it's a link it's a research paper this is tied to UAP, things that people have come across in our atmosphere and plasma and the idea behind it, I'll just read the abstract here. By the way, for the record, for anyone who's curious, the article is on Research Gate and Research Gate you can find all sorts of free articles. This is beautifully formatted, easy to read, really good. Good stuff.

To give you an idea how new this is, this was published on October 28th, 2024. So like a few weeks ago. In the Scientific Research Publishing. The Journal of Modern Physics, 2024. So this is crazy cool shit, cause this is something that has been theorized some of these UAPs may be in fact.

And it says, abstract is as documented by NASA space shuttle films and detailed in this report self illuminating pulsating plasma like UAP slash UFOs quote unquote plasmoids have different shapes and sizes are attracted to electromagnetic activity and travel at different velocities from different directions making 90 to 180 degree turns as well as colliding intersecting and piercing other plasmas and has been filmed by US Navy personnel and a US Customs and Border Protection DHC-8 flying above and diving slash sinking beneath the ocean as by NASA and by NASA following circling and hovering near space shuttles satellites in the Mir International Space Station and

congregating above and descending into thunderstorms in the lower atmosphere, which is the air corridor favored by commercial and military craft. If you scroll way down on the paper, you can see all the, they have a bunch of photo examples of what these things are. Yeah, I saw some of those pics already. Yeah, yeah, and this may account for you,

some, this may account for reports of UAPs following, harassing, chasing, or quote unquote, toying with aircraft. Plasmas also have explosive properties, harassing, chasing, or, quote-unquote, toying with aircraft. Plasmas also have explosive properties, negatively affect electronics and mental activity, possibly including hallucinations of alien abductions, pass through glass, plastic, metal, and enter the cockpits of airplanes and have been observed by astronauts inside spacecraft, the MIR, and ISS. It is hypothesized that given their propensity to collide, plasmoids may be responsible for at least some unexplained,

inexplicable aircraft disasters. Thunder, lightning storms are the main drivers of Earth's GEC, a geo-electrical current, I believe is what that is, and direct positive currents into ion spheres, which attract plasmas. The troposphere also has a positive charge, and the ocean surface under white water troposphere also has a positive charge and the ocean surface under white water and turbulent condition develops a positive charge. And we hypothesize

that this accounts for sightings of UAP in the lower atmosphere soaring above and diving into oceans including, as reported here, shape-shifting UAP replicants that split into or generate additional shape-shifting UAPs as filmed by NASA and US Customs, plasmoids appear to purposefully interact and engage in complex behaviors. And it is suspected they are sentient and represent a fourth domain of life. Although plasmas in the lower atmosphere may be responsible for UAP sightings over the centuries, including those that appear to, quote unquote, battle over cities, which were battle of L.A. and so on, or follow and harass military ships and planes, plasmoids cannot account for all UAPs, which may include extraterrestrial

spacecraft from other worlds. So they're saying it's some, but not all. And if you read that it's a hundred page paper, I did not read all of it. But what they say is they observe what these things doing, acting with a purpose and encountering that watching them doing what they consider hunter like behavior, where they they a plasmoid will stalk another plasmoid and sometimes in within a group and like merge in on it and like kind of take it on itself and they seem to have some sort of they call it a sort of pre-DNA where they're able to replicate themselves in ways that they didn't think they could here it is the thermosphere ionosphere blah blah blah those of the upper ionosphere and to replicate themselves in ways that they didn't think they could. Here it is.

The thermosphere, ionosphere, blah blah blah. Those of the upper ionosphere and lower atmosphere have various shapes, sizes, and colors, and some consist of multiple plasmas and can replicate forming additional plasma as well as change shape. Glowing, pulsating plasmoids have been filmed in the ionosphere and lowing atmosphere, flying in V formations, and as verified by quantitative analysis will accept to hyper speeds and make 90 and 180 degree turns as well as colliding, merging and piercing one another.

That's pretty good. A recent quantitative analysis of 20 seconds of stable film footage from the STS-115 tether incident indicates that some plasmoids range in size from 0.1 to 4 kilometers square and travel at speeds of 17.4 miles per second, which yields a velocity of 1,044 miles per minute or 62,640 miles per hour. Four kilometers square? Yeah, square. Others travel at much faster rates, but whose velocities have yet to be determined.

Collectively, these plasmoids exhibit aerodynamic characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile, either manned or unmanned. And basically, they're like these things in our atmosphere are a form of life that we just don't understand. The way they act, the way they hunt, the way they move or group together, where they tend to fuck around with like they follow mechanic, like, uh, like airplanes and all this shit. It's fucking fascinating. And it would make sense that some of these things like they're not saying they're there like having telepathic communication with you. These things are just a version of life that we don't understand cause they

don't have a DNA or a cell structure like we do. They're based off of like energy conglomeration acting as a multicellular organism. That's another way they compare it. This is super interesting because there's two things in this that I absolutely love. One is that the keywords that they're using, one of them is extremophile, which is, um, what are those little tiny microscope guys with the circle mounts? What are those guys called? What?

Yeah, like the thing, like if you look into a microscope, like bear guys, whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah, those guys, that's what, that's what an extremophile is. It's that type of this. They're saying like this potentially could be like, it doesn't have to be communicating with us, but it could be something which is interesting. And then, um, also in this as well is there is, I guess this year as well in July, new AI program helps identify elusive space plasmoids. So they're using AI to track them now, which is super interesting as well. Again,

don't know exactly what it is. Right. They say they act like multicellular organisms in a way where like they're hunting each other and there's like there's clear like, I don't want to say motive, that's not the word. Instinct, perhaps is a better word, like a primal like instinct of like hunting jellyfish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which in a weird way, but it could instead of it being instinct, could it be like the positive ions? Well, the study was like, could it be they're attracting each other because let me read this.

Their energy plasmoids appear to be electrical phenomenon attracted to and with some possibly producing lightning or produced by lightning rather. It's been hypothesized that dusty plasmas in the thermosphere may have mixture of gases and elements to a continuous electrical spark simulating lightning and produced organic chemicals in 33 different amino acids, including 11 of those necessary to create the proteins. This is like lightning, bam, doing that experiment. There's like basically lightning creating little microscopic Frankensteins that exist for a short amount of time, then disperse. The vibe. I don't know if it disperses. Yeah. It says if life can be created via interactions

between lightning, what happens to the plasmoids when they're done? Like they go away. I imagine. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't say it's suspected that they're sentient. Yes, that's that was very Yeah, they're saying sentient. I can't go that far. That's suspected. Like that's I mean, that's that was very yeah, they're saying sentient. I can't go that far. That's suspected. Like that's I mean, that means it's probably in here, but there would have to be evidence for the sentience, you know, probably that's what this paper is. I think it is. It is a paragraph that might directly apply to this is it is important to avoid anthropomorphizing what may be purely electromagnetic push pull attraction repulsion when exposed to high charged environments and surrounded by

Plasmas of opposite or similar or changing electric charge. However, according to Alphavn, and then there's a couple of like notation numbers, these plasmas contain cellular membranes, whereas plasma with the nucleus have been reportedly observed and which contain glowing spheres, and then they give observed and which contain glowing spheres. And then they give about 10 to 12 picture references to go look at. To speculate, these internal spheres could be construed as ganglia and neural networks or circular double-stranded DNA plasmids

that have the ability to replicate and self-clone. Based on laboratory experiments, a number of scientists have proposed that dusty plasmas may form crystalline RNA DNA helixical structures and may represent a non biological form of life or pre life. So there are ones that disperse and there's ones with a center that seem to like replicate in a pre life RNA DNA style. But wording wise, the word construed is very important because it means it doesn't mean it is. It means it can be interpreted as this. So it doesn't necessarily mean that's like, you know, it's a paper. So what? But is this it? Is this disclosure? Is this it?

I think this is part of it for sure. Like, even if these things are anything more complex and that's still fucking cool. If there's sentient energy beings that live in our world not sentient not setting the important thing is it's a scroll down to page 1838 1830 there is a Happy son and a sad son engaged in this warfare among these battle of LA or something like that Yeah, I remember seeing a battle of Nureg. Nuremberg. Oh, yeah. I did this on a on a episode one time, I think. Yeah. I've proposed means of scientifically studying

examining these plasmas. They have ways of studying them. Yeah, these pictures, pictures. There's a ton of pictures. Elongated pulsing object that followed. Yeah, these are all just pictures now. Whatever. Like, yeah, and I'm just, the plasmasphere, plasmas have been filmed in the thermosphere appearing from off camera,

approaching and descending into thunderstorms, whereas others have suddenly materialized and begin glowing in the space medium above thunderstorms. These and other plasmoids may hover in place or travel in a trajectory that leads to a thunderstorm within which they descend. So like hunting for food or looking for food. I don't, again, Oh, this is where, or which makes them a piercing target for plasmas,

which they have air quotes, er, in quotes, hunters and entities as yet unidentified coming from a different direction. We hypothesize that those that suddenly materialize in the thermosphere, either a travel or arrive at near light speed and come to a sudden halt, b or they are formed by localized electromagnetic activity generated by lightning storms, or c often within masses of illuminated and pulsating plasmas there are those that are not illuminated and appear as shadows. Therefore it is possible that plasmas may turn on or off their illumination. Then there's D. It is also possible that they and other plasmoids originate in and

seep across from a fifth dimension when electromagnetic activity produced by a massive thunderbolt is transformed into mass that becomes a small black hole that pierces a brain separating the fifth dimension from those four comprising our known universe. Some of those that materialize also appear to be emerging from a surrounding darkened area that could be likened to a hole in space time. Time out. Is this serious? The options here are A, they hyper space in and stop immediately and they're from a different galaxy or whatever. Uh, B, electricity causes them, but we'll move on quickly to see blinking light and dark ver then D,

they're from a different fifth dimension. So basically section 18, when Plasmoids attacked Los Angeles, they're taking some lice when Plasmoids attacked Los Angeles, it does like a summary of the Battle of Los Angeles, which we covered on the show before, and then at the end it says, what were these self-illuminated pulsating orbs that were flying in formation? Our best guess is they were Plasmas. End of segment. End of section.

You know what, they had me in the beginning they have it now i'm like you can't just say well it could also be this yeah i mean yeah like they give a few reasons that are basically cover the gamut but they exist that's the thing is like whatever they are they don't like this article anymore it's a paper that was submitted and published it's like a scientific paper it's not an article i mean Has it been peer-reviewed? I think that's that was submitted in October. I mean August for that not I don't know how you yeah when when how long No, although I Mean if it's in the journal modern physics, yeah, it exists there probably to be reviewed I would think

Let's see. Authors, citations. I'm pretty sure that's how it would work. Journal of Modern Medicine. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. This reads like viral marketing for a Godzilla movie. Like, this is crazy. It says it was received on August 4th, 2024, accepted October 25th, 2024, and then published

October 20th, 20. There's no review that they accepted it as a scientific paper. But it was published in the Journal of Physics, right? Or something like that. Modern Journal of Physics. Journal of Modern Physics. Yeah. Journal of Modern Physics.

Again, that means nothing to me. I don't know. Astrobiology Research Center, California, Department of Astronomy, University of Arizona, Department of Vision Sciences, Ashton University, Center for Astrophysics, and these are all

things that are listed. I don't know. Either way. Yeah, I mean, looking at it right now, as far as I can tell, it was reviewed. In order to get it in the journal, they had to submit it.

It had to be screened. It had to be sent to people who then provided feedback to get the author's response. Then there was an editorial decision to publish. Yeah. So it was, they were like, yeah, again, the question might be then. It isn't that they agreed. They just looked through the research and were like, yeah, this seems to

check out and seems reasonable I'm like a research basis. It's sound it's sound right? Yeah, it's and I don't think they're saying that they're definitely coming from this But they are throwing out possibilities. Yeah, it's a possibility either way these things whatever they are are out there seemingly Whether they're just like brief Existences of these things that act like little multicellular organisms or not It's just fucking cool because that makes sense for some of the UAP things out there would totally make sense that these things Let me tell you something. This is absolutely incredible that that is what the topic was today so far from you because The thing that I have right here. Okay, we're on we're on our Irvine on reddit because We're on R. Irvine on Reddit because Kelly's from Irvine and so we got this post today which is called, Anyone Else See This Flying Object Over By Jamboree and Mickelson?

Which is an intersection in Irvine. And it said, It sort of looked like something floating on some sort of jet pack. Was wondering if anyone knew anything about it. It was slowly lowering altitude as I was driving around the area. It ended up getting blocked by the trees and I haven't been able to see it since. And so I'm going to send you that article now that that post you can see right here. And it also has a comment on it from a guy who said his name is Jalop. He said I was golfing at Rancho San Joaquin and I saw this and got video clips of it.

Bizarre, this happened an hour ago. He posted this, by the way. This is like a recent post. The post is from eight hours ago. He posted an hour ago. So first of all, if you look at this thing, it looks like a jellyfish UAP. Little bit jellyfishy.

It also kind of looks like a jetpack guy, but it's a really big picture. And if you zoom in, it looks like there's a fucking plasma right next to it dude oh you see the little little yeah little spot it looks like a cell it looks like a multicellular plasma it does look similar to some of the white dots that are in the tree though white dots in the tree let me look see oh yeah it's a white dot then there's white dots all over the tree the top of the tree. Let me look. See, it's a white dot. Then there's white dots all over the tree, the top of the tree. It's true. But what's going on?

But what is this flying object? It almost looks like a spider hanging. It kind of does from like this. But when you zoom in, it then looks a little weirder. Yeah, like I zoom in on it. It is I feel like it could be a spider constructs. Like there's circles and things coming out of this that it's, it's clearly constructed of some type.

The hard part about this is because the sky is so perfectly blue and it's up, there's no, like there's no point of reference for this. It could either be very small and right above the trees, or big and way in the distance past the trees. Yeah, it's hard to fucking tell. It's really hard to tell. Yeah, it needs plasma. I see the spider.

Somebody said it was a spider in the comments, too. I'm thinking, because it almost looks like a spider is just hanging in front of the tree, and it's just closer. So it's just bigger. But when I look up- The far away it almost looks like a spider is just hanging in front of the tree and it's just closer so it's right yeah but when I look away 100% looks like a spider when I look up close it doesn't it looks to me exactly like that jellyfish UAP that we've been looking at it does have it does have that I don't know man but also we know that we've seen multiple reports in LA of what is clearly a dude flying around in a jet pack. Some kind of jet pack. LA is fucking wild, man. It's like a whole ass alien world.

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if it was some rich dude. It's now filled with rich guys and tons of free time. It's awesome. You know, when you think about it, LA is just kind of like Florida, but there's a bunch of rich people there to like make up for it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. We have like, we have like, well, that's the thing about LA, it's like, it's Florida, but it's also like New York,

but it's also like, like Mexico City, it's also like, I mean, it's just like a million different things. It's so fucking weird. I can't even grasp it myself when I was born here. And that's what makes it so magical. Just like our show. Thank you all so much for watching and listening. I can't even grasp it myself when I was born here. And that's what makes it so magical. Just like our show. Thank you all so much for watching and listening. Cranador, thanks for being here.

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