Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: The Boys Ponder Disclosure

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

This Minisode was originally uploaded with Episode 350: The Salem Witch Trials Part 3 - some of the topics discussed might be outdated. Subscribe to our Patreon to listen and watch the Minisodes as they release every week! http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPODMike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/Editor: DeanCutty Producer: Hilde @ https://bsky.app/profile/heksen.bsky.social Show Art: Studio Melectro @ http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro Logo Design: Shawn JPB @ https://twitter.com/JetpackBragginLINKSMy Experience With the Afterlife: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1tgzyee/listener_account_my_experience_with_the_afterlife/Several Species of Aliens in the US: https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15831085/cia-scientist-ufo-crash-alien-species.htmlHas Neil deGrasse Tyson Changed His Tune?: https://cybernews.com/tech/tyson-aliens-ufo-uap/

Notice, notice, this midweek mini was recorded several months ago and may not be up to date with current events. For fresh minisode uploads with every episode, head to patreon.com slash Chaluminati pod. To the minisone. Broop. That's a new one. I, you know, I'm trying to keep it fresh. I forgot that it was episode 350. Boop.

It's not minisode 250. at 350 though. I know, but it just made me remember that like life, like life is fleeting, you know, so I'm trying to, I want to keep the sounds fresh. You know what I mean? I don't want to, I don't want to rest on my laurels having the greatest episode interest of all time. We've got to try different mouth shapes. I like that in this moment where you stared into the abyss, you looked in the black, inky void of eternity, and you shouted, boop. Look, it's, it's just, I was just thinking about you guys who can't see me. Also, I ordered a bounty wopper.

Oh, what's that? That's a, that's a, that's a Mandalorian Whopper. Oh, shit. That's what I was doing while I was staring into the void. Is it green bun? No, my gosh. Extra grogou sauce. The box, the box has a.

Is the drink Spock? I'm trying to think of all the references I know. There is a blue grogoo shake. There is grogoo fries. which I also got, which are chicken garlic fries, which is kind of gross because I'm like, am I eating Grogu? I don't get it.

And then the burger has fried pickles and it comes in a helmet box. Like a Whopper Box. It's just a Whopper Box. Sure, man. Looks like. All right. I still want to know why they named that thing Grogu. It's Baby Yoda always will be.

It doesn't matter. They can't call it Baby Yoda. I can. And I know what about? Grogo is a terrible name regardless. What about Baby Yoda? Like, he can't sit there. Yoda is fun to say.

You know, you know. Grogoo is not. You know that that was their version of Gugu because it's a baby, right? Gugu. Grogoo. Grogoo. Grogoo. You know that's one.

I hope that child grows up at some point and again named itself something else. Gugu Idga. Goa, a goo has. This is my, this is my S&L character, audition character, guy who's genuinely so yoked about Mandalorian and Grogu, the movie. I have a listeners story that I think is pretty good. That is from our very own subreddit, R slash Chulminati Pod, go there now, visit there now.

Now visit it. If you're a super fan, I'll like a patron. Get over there. You listen to this on YouTube. You guys, we need more you guys over in the fucking Reddit. Get in the Reddit. That's where we live. Listen to your show.

Even Jesse goes in that Reddit. I see him. I see him in there. I see him. This comes from user one ad. I'm not going to read the whole number, but, you know, one ad. Here we go. Listener account is called My Experience with Afterlife.

Hi. Feel free to read this on the show. Not a native English speaker here. So sorry if I make any mistakes. You did beautifully. I couldn't say which of the guys I identify with more. I go with the idea that the paranormal in general is something we still don't comprehend, be it UAP, ghosts or anything in between.

When I was about 11 to 12 years old, my mom, then my then newborn brother and me lived on a rented house. Some nights I would wake up to the noise of a child crying. At the time, my brother was a newborn, I would even go to his and my mom's room just to encounter him sleeping in his crib. The detail. The sound of the cry was not in their room, but just in mine. Also, those cries seemed to be from a small kid, not a baby. maybe. So that's one thing. Interesting. There was also the time that a small handprint, too small to be mine, was visible in the refrigerator door, like when you let your hand

on the fridge for some time and the difference in temperature shows its outline on the plastic. As much my mom tried to wipe it with a cloth, it wouldn't clean it. Also, inside the fridge on the same line as the hamprint was a bowl of doce de lech oh uh yeah dolce de leche this person i believe speaks Portuguese uh but yeah cooked condensed milk you know but dulce de leche is yeah uh you're from Texas and we were from los angeles uh after i told yeah after i told my mother about the crying in my room we moved back to our grandparents uh her parents home until she could buy us a home a couple years later. It's a different culture than ours. At the time, she didn't say nothing. Years later, she then said to me, the reason she rented that house was

because of the cheap rent. No one stayed in that house for too long. Also, the landlord lost his son in that house. That was the reason he and his wife moved out and rented it. The boy was about five years old when he died, and the room I slept was his. That's it. Me and my mom never talked much about that house after that. Our views and spirituality don't matter. too much, her being a Catholic and me, an agnostic, but we have kind of a silent agreement to not talk about that. This is one of the times, one of the only times I talked about the situation. Only other people I recall talking about it is my boyfriend. So that's it. I don't really know what to think about that. It's one of those things you just kind of shove in a drawer

in your head and move on with your life because if you think about it too much, you just can't go on normally. Thanks for all the hours listening about strangeness with little humor. So there you go. A nice, perfectly detailed little ghost story with a perfect resolution of the type that like, I like these types because as as sort of trope as they sort of end up seeming when you like line like 30 of them up, right? I feel like the little details are what always makes me enjoy them. Like the little personalized details of this one. I like the little bit of different energy. You know, I like the idea of the. the fridge and the heat in like the the the way the sort of cinematic reveal of going to look at the baby's crib and realizing that nobody else can hear the baby crying but you i don't know there's little little details in everybody's story that make it seem a little bit more real and stuff and i i just thought this one was really enjoyable yeah it's neat yeah it says like a weird like level of like detail that once you get to that point you're like okay you're clearly lying for some i just like it for good storytelling purposes I don't know that I necessarily believe it was like a ghost, but it makes for a compelling story.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a ghost, you know what I mean? But like the topa of it all anyway is so interesting, right? Get out of here. Yeah, exactly. Not the real topa, just the thought, the thought, the bundle of thoughts altogether, the history, the thoughts, the facts, the activities, whatever that all was. Right. It's interesting. Agreed.

Jesse, what do you have for us today? I was blowing my nose. Oh, so sorry, so sorry. I can talk about what I want. No, I got you. I'm back. Don't worry. It's all right.

Mine's just a conversational piece, you know. I can talk about how I hate that the fucking delivery app that I try to use while I'm recording a live podcast automatically orders from a Burger King 18 minutes away from my house. I love that. That sounds terrible. That's stupid. That's crazy. So the Daily Mail has an article that I absolutely have. to talk to you guys about because, first off, it's the Daily Mail.

So it came with a great photo that I want to show you. But former CIA scientist claims to have seen, or it actually claims that there are several alien species in the U.S. the government secretly knows about. And he has been told this information, but not actually seen any of them. Anyway, Dr. Hal put off, a physicist and electrical engineer who worked in the intelligence community.

I know that. I know that name very well. How put off. Yeah, how put off. Yeah. Huge. We've talked about him in episodes before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's just some sort of, there's some sort of pun there.

I don't quite know, but it's there. He says he was so, how put off? Doctor. He's talking about how put off he was. He's 89. He's, yeah. He works, he says that he worked for an intelligent, the intelligence community's psychic spy and UFO research programs in the 70s and 80s.

And he says there are at least four types of, different alien life from crashed UFOs that they've encountered. He went on, he went on a podcast recently and talked about this. Of course, it was on a podcast. Davis describes these entities as humanoid, approximately human-sized and possibly linked to classified reverse engineering programs.

Anyway, here are the four. We talked about it before. I love it so much. The Grays, the classic four for, all creatures. We know those guys, right? Everyone knows them.

Sex pests. The extremely tall humans from Scandinavian Nordics. Nordics. Yeah, yeah, of course. I was unaware that we had crashed Nordic ships, but that's what he's saying. Reptilians. They usually just hang out inside the White House and chat with the president. Apparently, reptilians, the most famous of the alien races mentioned as giant reptiles.

They can shape shift. They're unproven claims that they regularly infiltrate humans. society. Meanwhile, then, there's also the insectoids. And we've talked about these numerous times, and I just want to show you the image that they included in this article, because I love the Daily Mail did this, because it's just so goofy. These are the aliens they're referring to. Dude, this literally looks like the opening credits of the fucking men and black cartoon show. It really does. It has the same vibe as the Gardens of the Galaxy, like line up in front of the like, it's just so goofy. Yeah, except it has my fucking Starfield OC and

it like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, that's the Nordic. The Nordic instead of looking Nordic, he just looks like a guy with long hair and a space suit. Looks like Operation Hail Mary. Like, I don't even know what to say. But then also, they included what I can only assume are images from like Stolaris or something because this is more of them.

If you, if you see that, oops, uh, never mind. It gave you the full article, but scroll all the way down. And you will see that they include CG. images of a very tone and attractive giant Nordic, a guy who looks like he's from Skyrim. Stock image. Yeah, literally like Oblivion remake screenshot. Like an X-com image of a gray. Just like some, if you click those, they're hilarious.

I can't. The image of the insectoid looks like a Star Wars character. The one, the Nordic looks like they're from. marathon, like the new shooter, like the current shooter marathon. It is absolutely essentially. Oh, my God, there's like a fucking insectoid looks like a fucking Star Wars bounty on. That's what I'm saying. He looks like like Darth Vader was like no disintegrations.

Anyway, the article literally is like a bug themed gun. Baby's first primer of UFO stuff. And this guy's saying that we have talked with them. They are here on Earth. We've seen their crash sites. He hasn't seen anything, but he's been told about it. So there you go. Yeah.

And I love the- He hasn't seen it, but he's been told. What's great about it is this is one of those few articles where rather than just so random footage of, you know, UAPs, they went all in and showed renderings of the aliens multiple times. And frankly, I'm here for it. I like this. This is so much more fun of a way to do it than just shitty old AI.

Like grabbing like really tonally discordant images that don't fit and don't quite make sense, but that sort of get the idea across. Like, I don't know where that bug, that insectoid image came from. That is literally, like, it's like my alien PowerPoint pictures.

It's like a beautiful painting. It's like a beautiful, expertly done painting of a bug man. If that's AI, that sucks so much. I got AI the other day, dude. It made me so, man. Yeah, like a song.

I couldn't tell us. A. Story of 2026, bro. Get ready. I was going to talk about the fucking aliens, Jesse. But we can pivot from me. that for something else.

Oh, all right. Because those aliens are great. Like, that's, it's so funny. Like, it's,

it's how put off. So, you know, take it or leave it. But, right. The, the other thing, I guess alien-wise,

first of all, you see Trump fucking truth social. Dude, those AI images? Jacked ass alien. What's crazy is there's other ones, too, and one,

and it's him and two giant grays. And one has black hair just like in those, those paintings, which made it even funnier. And they have a baby in their hand. It's like they're alien tourists. And he's like, I want to know why he's doing that.

Like there's a meeting, dementia mind. Why? So people don't talk about the fact that he diddled kids. Yeah. Every time there's, every time there's Epstein news, he's going to do some shit like this.

And the one that's funnier is going to make the meme. Yeah. That's it. That shit was so dumb. He couldn't get away with the Jesus wants. Now it's to look at. Trump shows aliens around. So the other thing we'll talk about that

been making its way through the UFO world, uh, pretty, heavily is people proclaiming and they're not 100% wrong but they're also not 100% right that Neil de Grasth Tyson has like changed his tune on UFOs um and he kind of has kind of hasn't he's got a book coming out so he's doing a book tour and uh he's getting interviewed on everything from the daily show to CNN to like basically everything and they're asking him the same questions and what's interesting is that while the book the book is called uh take me to your leader

or something like that it's basically the idea of like if aliens show up how do you interact with it's a little tongue and cheek in the way it's written with a lot of the points he's making like futurism kind of yeah well it's like oh well if you mean an alien don't hold out your hand to shake it because that might that means something else from where he's from so like he might maybe they need to sniff your butt instead like that kind of joke but the point he's getting at in the book is like have the Pythagorean theorem or like the periodic table in your pocket because the universal language of the universe is likely math and if they are here and they are visiting then they're not they're very likely not going to speak

English, they're going to, but they'll be able to speak mathematics on your first, first encounter with them. And your disc vibes. And yeah, the book is super lighthearted and filled with jokes and shit like that. Like, still him's kind of taking the piss out of it when he can. But the thing he's changed is tune on in the interviews is he's like, the evidence of the testimonies is no longer throw away. He's talking about the dump, how they dumped files.

He's like, the thing he's most interested in is he's reading all the files from the 1940s and 1950s. And they're saying the same exact thing that, you know, Joe Farmer or whatever. has been saying for decades, which is the same thing that the recent congressional hearings people have been saying. And he's like, that, he's like, it's interesting to me because that points to a pattern, one that is I can't look away from and basically say it's nothing. Because if it's happening over the course of in the, and that's just, you know, what has been released and stuff. So his tune on like UFOs being real, he won't say they're aliens, obviously, but he's like, but they are by

definition like UFOs. You know, I'm not that interested in like doing an episode where we just like go through the files because there's just. Yeah. The amount of time that needs to be spent like it'll be better if we wait a while to see if anything serious comes from this. But yeah, what would be interesting is to revisit do like maybe like a checklist and revisit some of our own episodes on aliens and see.

if we can find any like correlation between you know various accounts that we've you know I would love to like rate the various crazy people that we've had like books about on the show and see if any of them are like weirdly more correct than others yeah I feel like you know that one the the one with a guy at Roswell that I did sure where where the yeah like I feel like his was like really his was really really believable to me and i and i like you know i haven't gone back and looked at it since i have read anything about the files but like they don't seem incompatible with each other at a glance and i just wonder how much of that stuff there is out there i i think for like things like range four harry would not hold you know what i mean

or valiant thor or some shit like there is like some like even the weirder ones like the and and reason affair or in what like those like weird ones with more fantastical elements there's so much of it that I'm like having been researching reading about this stuff for so long I'm like well if it is like a consciousness based thing it would be weird it would be fucking bizarre and like if these things are inserting them it's like from what a lot of like you know tom DeLong and like all those people who are just like in the research sphere saying it's like these things sit outside of our dimension and these grays for instance might be biomechanical avatars that they are able to operate in a three-dimensional space

where we exist in and like they sit outside of that. And that would, you know, like, there's basically, maybe there's just no way for us to truly comprehend whatever these things actually truly are. What if that's the truth? What if the truth is these things are here? We don't know what they are. We haven't been able to figure out what they are forever. And maybe there's no possible way for us to even like comprehend what these things.

I think conceptually we can understand them. I feel like that's true too. We can conceptually understand a fourth dimension. Like I can describe, I can describe something that's not possible to actually comprehend in real life. Right. Yeah, but I feel like

out of all the possible solutions, that would be the worst, is a non-answer. Because saying, oh, they're here, they've always been here, and there's nothing you can do about it, I think would do the most to upset society, rather than an answer.

You know what if we had like, oh, they are from the planet Luke Lop and they've just been visiting and you know what? We stay out of their way. They stay out of ours. At least that would be some sort of answer, but saying like, we can't stop it. We don't know what it is.

It's from a different reality. And they've always been here and they just do their thing. I think that would freak people out genuinely. Well, that's, I mean, that's, I guess, I guess that's true because of the sort of like sensationalism of it all. But to me, the thing that I've always thought about that is like if you truly understand about like bodies and in space moving around

and like what's out there and like all the other shit that's like just you know the the lovecraft of it all the sort of like but that I don't even mean out there you know what I mean that's like hypothetical out there. This is this would be here with us. It would be the difference of like perceiving a Cthulu and then seeing a Cthulhu. I don't even mean I don't even mean could. I don't even mean I mean, the way that Cthulhu and seeing how small you are in existence, kind of like enter the same sphere of experience a little bit, it's more like that. I don't mean an old dead god.

I just mean that's waiting to wake up or something like that. I just mean like the fact that we're flying through space at a fucking fast speed and that there's black holes that exist that could just swallow us and we don't know. And dark matter exists. We don't know what the fuck that is. And things are interacting. with each other on either side of the universe and it doesn't really make sense.

And like as much as we try to talk about it, you know, even the physicists that are masters of it to us can barely agree on what if the fuck it is that they're even measuring. Like that alone is already enough fucking with my understanding of reality is somebody who like reads books and understands the sort of implications of the science of it all. And how thread like just way for

our reality is the our my perception is just barely holding together drugs alone can completely shift my entire perception of what is happening around me like i don't understand why just aliens being just outside of our reach and being here is like any different than any of that conceptually you're muted jesse somehow you're muted on sarah's blowing my nose okay okay um I think the thing here to think about the way that I would put it is, as a kid, you are told Santa is going to watch whether you're naughty or nice. And it's conceptually like,

okay, the difference here would be if Santa was literally riding around at night on his sleigh watching you. And we couldn't interact with him. We couldn't do anything. But he really truly was watching whether you were naughty or nice. it would change people in a way that would not it would I don't like society would change dramatically and I think saying to everyone not just like they're aliens we talk to them and their buds but being like these are things you cannot control they run kind of rampant over us and we are specs to them

would freak people out on a like existential level more than just life exists beyond the stars I guess like in a demographic sense, absolutely, but like from another angle, like in my personal experience, I survived finding out God doesn't exist. I've, you know what I mean? Like I've, I survived finding out that I will die one day. And that's it. You know, I survived a lot of shit that I can't escape that sucks ass now. And I, and I, I guess, I guess the thing that I'm like reacting to more than the actual knowledge itself or the fact that it is, undeniably so goddamn scary as a concept is just that I think that it shouldn't stop us from. But agree.

Really quickly. A lot of the debate is the UFO world is like the constant thing that said is like if the public found out, they would fucking lose their minds. And like that the thought that once a week I say a post with that thought like experiment of like, what do you think it is that they would have to hold back that governments would legitimately have to hold back from the world because it would make society fall apart. But I mean, the difference here, though, I think to what Alex was saying is that, you know, like going back to God, for example, you can say, I don't think God exists. Someone else can say God exists, but there is no definitive answer that anyone can say

with any certainty on any fact of it. What this is, would be, would be like if a dude showed up and said, yeah, hey, my name Steve, I actually worked with God. I helped create the universe. That dude's dead. Yeah, that guy actually died. And no one's running the show now. I don't have the keys or the passcode to get into the server that their universe is on.

So like, yeah, man, you're all on your own anyway, been fun. Like, that's the difference here is it would be like if someone said, there are things. They are here. We have known about it. Kept it from you and there's nothing we or you can do about it. They are just here. People would freak the fuck because it isn't just like, oh, they're here to hurt us so they know what to do. The people are like, okay, they're the enemy.

It isn't like, oh, they're here because they're trying to prevent this or change this or govern us or whatever. Just the idea of they exist and we we don't know and we can't communicate with them and we don't have an understanding. People would freak out. Like I'm talking cities on fire freak out. I think you're right. I think you're right that there's like a chance. But I also think like I think like secrets are toxic, bro.

You know what I mean? like like oh oh i'm not saying that we i'm not saying we're like getting or we're like getting dumber we're like getting dumber we deserve to know the truth i think some cities you know what fuck it yeah that's what i'm saying like like we're getting dumber faster than it's all right can even deal with you know what i mean like everything about the way of life that i thought i was going to have is already dead like like history ended cultural history ended like whenever chat gpt like crossed some threshold that we don't even know about yet that we're going to find out in 20 years

like an age of smith is going to tell you at some point like your society ended in the year 2016 yeah after that it was ours like oh yeah like that that already happened like probably by some actual metrics right so like it's i can only help us to know all the all the parts of the like get all the cards on the table as fast as possible now if we're going to have any chance of ever of ever coping with it or living with it like how much is it like how much is of like and this is silly to go to this but like how much of disclosure day from stephen spielberg is going to hold some truth in that movie like i do wonder there's going to be aspects of it yeah whether he's scraped out of like things he's done for research or stuff not that he's like

communicating with the government in any way but i know he's an obsessive about aliens as well what at the end of the movie oh my wouldn't this be the craziest twist is if at the end of the movie it wasn't aliens but like a demon or like something more like like cool dude and then he's trying to say what if it's like that and then he's also trying to say that that's what he thinks it is yes that's like what if what if what he found out he's like it was never aliens but in fact a gateway from god and then it's like and then it's like footage of trump in the white house like finding that out like some shit like that being like we can't tell him we have to feed them we have to feed the demons that's all we can do yeah that would be so scary dude

worst case scenario disclose your day dude this close your day dude just disclosed the eight day, dude. You know what you just, you just created weird fiction, like organically, separately from like HP Lovecraft and Ambrose beers and stuff. Like you just were like, dude, but what if like something beyond our understanding possibly happened and it was all real? Like, uh, all I'll say is nameless by Grant Morrison. Give it me. Yeah, yeah. There are some like, some of my favorite scene. Go for it. Go for it. Go go. Go go. Oh, I was saying some of my favorite media at the moment is, of those weird like short videos or short videos or short. stories where it's like it's just earth but insert some random weird creature and everyone's just

like we don't mess with it it doesn't mess with us but it walks around the countryside looking really sad we have no idea why but we stay out of its way and it's just like a thousand feet tall and has like three legs and it goes like and it's creepy as shit and it's just one of those Eldridge things where it's like, what would we even do? Dude, yeah. I think the backrooms, I think the backrooms is legit like lovecraftian. It is. Absolutely.

It's definitely an unknowable place. I feel like it's literally like revivalist weird fiction. It is. I agree. I love that shit. I have this like idea. Like imagine like an astronaut who's going through space and they crash land on a planet and they're wearing their space suit.

And this planet is like filled jungle in a little village of humanoid less than people discover the craft. take him in and for years he spends their time like learning their language and trying to figure out where he is and how he can get off and the whole time there's just like chapel or temple they go worship that he's not allowed into because he's not part of them eventually he's able to go in and when he finally goes into worship whatever it is it's his actual space suit with a skeleton in it and they've been worshipping whatever that is as a god and it's like his space suit as well has his name and everything and it's been there for who knows how long yeah and I don't know what you do with it

but I love that shit I too I too have played a house Marky game. Yeah. Yeah. You just wrote Returnal sort of. If I played about an hour of returnal. You wrote like the inciting incident of Returnal sort of. Yeah.

Oh, that's cool. I love that shit. That's like I love that kind of like unknowable shit. But for me, if that's what it was, I feel like, well, nothing's changing then. Then my day to day doesn't change. Like if I can't control, maybe I can meditate and talk to them or something, that's cool. Yeah. But like, yeah, the ontological shock, I think for for most people would be indigestible.

If it is like. Three body problem ask like, we can't comprehend. We can't do anything, but they are here. But even in that, even three hard problem, the aliens are like, we're going to take over your world. Like at least, there's a thing that will happen. I'm more worried about a thing that like will never happen. Like just like Jesse. Yeah.

We're talking about how other people would. How would you personally feel if that was the truth? Oh, I think it would change me. Like I know it would. I would be more willing not only to believe. in aliens, but now if you said they were extra dimensional beings, I would believe more likely that there was a heaven and a hell and different, like I would change. You go religious? You'd think there'd be more of a religious like, no, I think me personally,

I'd be open more to the idea of instead of like, you know, a more Eastern philosophical idea of like hell is the punishment you would instill upon yourself or whatever, or like, you know, a reincarnation thing into like next time around I'm a squirrel and I get eaten my like like whatever the case may be eternal all the different versions of punishment of yourself I I'll be honest I still don't know and I'm on a journey to find out what I think but like course I think I'd be more willing to jump into the like oh there is a flap over that a science like ranch and that there's weird shit coming through rather than like that's total bullshit like yeah I'm open like if tomorrow an alien showed up or I saw a ghost or if I saw any of that I would instantly be like

got me I'm in yeah there is an afterlife okay imagine they were real and they look exactly like bigfoot wouldn't that be fucking hilarious I would I would I would I do I would immediately be like I would be a mathist overnight I'd be like it's all real dude it's always been real absolutely they all look like Jesus and like he's there's like all races Jesus of all races yeah so crazy do you think do you think, Jesse, do you think over the eight years you've been doing this, your opinion on, like, what if aliens are real or not, what they might be, dimensional or not has like shifted at all? No, I mean, I never had an opinion on what they were. Sure, whether they exist then.

I think, I've said before, for sure, aliens exist. Do I think any aliens have come to Earth? Probably not. But with that said, I'm open to the idea. And there have been some stories where I've been like, okay. Yeah, like that was a good story. and if that's real, I 100% like, all right, cool. I'm at the 1% like, I think most of it is bullshit,

but I'm open to 1% being real. Yeah. That would immediately change upon any real evidence, even if they were like, we can't talk to them. They exist. We don't know what they are. If we didn't know what they were and it could be anything, I would be like, we don't know so much about this world.

No, dude, it's, screw it, 99% chance all of its real, 1% chances all fake. I would be like. Right. Yeah, yeah, open that they're like, because like, That's the crazy thing. I think we said the last week where like the idea like we're seeing plasma beings type things in our own atmosphere acting like the actual like life forms of some sort.

If plasma ends up being life of some kind, like a consciousness comes with some kind, that implies the sun would be conscious in some way. But that's why I think all of society would change. It all comes back. Religious people would have a different awakening. People who are like, like me would have a different awakening. I think it would fundamentally make society go topsy-turvy. It'd be crazy.

I think I'd be pretty much. I would be okay. Yeah, but I don't think so. Alex, I think you would, you might be fine, but you would have to do damage control for so many people that you would have to like be their counselor.

That's already what my personality type does. Yeah. Well, bless man. That's already what my life is. Everybody's telling me they found out aliens exist every day, bro. The president,

I mean, he was walking to tall, ripped aliens. so yeah you know that's the funniest possible thing could be if they were big foot to me that is that's like the eternal yeah but that's like if they are interdimensional who knows dude like or if they look like or if they look like fucking someone's gods exactly that would be amazing that would be nuts if like just like an elephant man gets off the i'd be like yo yes all right be so crazy some jack kirby chariots of the gods that type of shit

would be mind-blowing. Yeah. That would be fucking cool. Because I feel like culture, like, I feel like there's no way it hasn't touched our culture, whatever the answer is. I feel like it's impossible that we don't already know about it somehow. Oh, for sure. Especially if the things have been around for who knows how long.

That'd be the other thing I think would be fascinating would be, that would have to be like a reckoning of historians would have to like look at history differently. Yeah. they could confirm like we don't know what they are, but where they've been around forever and they've just been here throughout our history, all of a sudden, history becomes another, like a new frontier again. But, but there would also be people that would say it was a lie. The government is doing it to control us. They are there. They're there are a secret.

They're. Like, no matter what, it would be, maybe society would heal itself. But that initial shock would be like, we'd be running out of toilet. the paper in the grocery store is what I'm saying. It'd be pretty crazy. Yeah, everybody needs that's, that's, you know, that's, that's probably why, you know, people don't fight quote unquote as people feel online. I like the truth is people are fighting and and people do want things to be different. And, you know, I know people think it's not enough, but I really think people are saying I want it to be done right now rather than that it's not enough. And, you know, I don't know, like,

there's something there's something sort of like the same about this there's it's out there it's happening it's real yeah you know I don't know we'll see I hope we get an answer to our lifetime I really do I'm gonna assume we won't

I'm not holding my breath I have to be I have to be happy with what I think the answer is based on my own research at this point you know like it's just in I mean that's life man at some point you just decide you're happy with the information you have Yeah. And you're like, screw it.

All right. I'm just going to be a chill dude for the rest of the way. Give me my bounty wopper. This is the way. This is the way. You can have it. Your, this is the way. Yeah.

I'll have my this way. I'm going to this my way down to some dinner right now, actually. Thank you all so much. How is this way for your show? Do not go see that movie if you don't want. This is not a brand deal for that film. No, it is not. Doesn't he not paying us any money?

Yeah, we do not. Fuck Mickey Mouse. Fuck Star Wars, everything. Don't worry about it. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah. We'll see you guys next time. Goodbye.