Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini - The Mad Mad UFO World

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

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Let's put a stop to this right now. I gotta get to 200 before I stop that. Okay. Once we get to 200. What if we never did those things that you want to see? Hey, how's it going? Welcome to Minnesota 158. I'm excited because I think you know what I'm bringing today, Jesse. I kind of shared it with you guys the other day and yeah, I think you read the article. We're gonna go. I found this.

What? Yeah, I found this article when I was looking at UFO updates because there's a bunch of stuff going on in the UFO world. Japan just announced today that something big happened in the UFO world and they're bringing their Congress together. There's all kinds of stuff happening. And in my life, speaking of Japan real quick, I must interrupt. Yeah, please. While we're on the subject, I read while looking for my article today, I read the funniest thing on reddit and maybe laughs so hard. What was this guy talking about? How his wife or maybe girlfriend about to be future wife is mad at him because he went to Japan and while he was there

he got a Non-sexual he says non-sexual multiple times in this just so we're aware a nonsexual massage of his groin area to release tension and He explained it in great detail. He's like That's the thing. He never said that but he says he says she got in there. She's massage my balls She of course she like had they're like, you know do some other things down there but like it was about tension release, you know and his some other things down there. But like, it was about 10 year release, you know, and his girlfriend slash future wife is like, what are you doing? And he's like, I think she's like a Victorian. Was he like a Victorian wife in the like 1890s? Well, because he said to her, I'm going to get a massage in Japan and then said what

the massage was. And he thought she was fine, but she hung up the phone. And the phone and the next thing you know like he's there that night. She's mad at me I don't know what it is. Wow surprise. I can think of so many things in wrong my man I only have one really big really big thing he did wrong Partners absolutely Yeah, so this is a something that actually was from 2019 again I kind of discovered in my weird alien like reading I do almost all the time and this the headline is kind of weird But it's scientists build a machine to see all possible futures And the way they do this is fascinating and Alex's I love the look on your face already. Did you read this Alex?

I put it into the group chat. I saw that it was there. Yeah. Yeah. I did not read it So this is coming from Science Daily. And they say, researchers have implemented a prototype quantum device that can generate and analyze a quantum superposition of possible futures. Using a novel quantum algorithm, the possible outcomes of a decision process

are encoded as a superposition of different photon locations and using interferometry, the teams show that it is possible to conduct a search through the set of possible futures without looking at each future individually. Ugh, what does that mean? I'm just gonna read the article and hopefully it makes sense by the end. So they go, when we think about the future,

we are confronted by a vast array of possibilities, explains assistant professor, Myel Gu of NTU Singapore, who led development of the quantum algorithm that underpins the prototype. These possibilities grow exponentially as we go deeper into the future. For instance, even if we have only two possibilities to choose from each minute, in less than half an hour, there are over 14 million possible futures, and then in less than a day, the number exceeds the number of atoms in the universe. It seems like it would be instant, doesn't it? What do you mean? Like the creation of possible futures? No, you have to be saying like if even if we just think every within

individual persons, every minute, you only had one to choice choice in front of you. By the end of the fucking day, you're over the number of possible choices you would have made is over the number of atoms in the universe. No, yeah, I sure I follow what you're saying. I just like it seems like it's hard. It's weird to imagine that as something that's like a linear process of making those choices and creating those universes. You think it'd be more accurate to describe it as like an explosion of instances. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how to describe that better. We'll talk, I mean, it all has to do with how positrons and electrons travel, which is like, do they travel

or are they all in all places always because every electron is identical? But basically they say to realize the scheme, they joined forces with the experimental group led by Professor Jeff Pride at Griffith University. And together, the team implemented a specially devised photonic quantum information processor in which the potential future outcomes of a decision process

are represented by the locations of photons, quantum particles of light. They then demonstrated that the state of the quantum device was a superposition of multiple potential futures weighted by their probability of occurrence. Quote, the functioning of this device is inspired by the Nobel Lierrette Richard Feynman, says Dr. Jane Thompson, a member of the Singapore team.

Laureate? Laureate? Yeah, I don't know. That means they've won the Nobel Prize or something. Yeah, I think it meant the Nobel Prize. Yeah. When Feynman started studying quantum physics, he realized that when a particle travels from point A to point B, it does not necessarily follow a single path. Instead, it simultaneously traverses all possible paths connecting to said point. Our work extends this phenomenon and harnesses it for modeling statistical futures.

The machine has already demonstrated one application measuring how much our bias towards a specific choice in the present impacts the future. Quote, our approach is to synthesize a quantum superposition of all possible futures for each bias, explains Farzad Ghaffari, a member of the experimental team. Quote, by interfering, by interfering these super positions with each other, we can completely avoid looking at each possible future individually. In fact, many current artificial intelligence algorithms learn by seeing how small changes in their behavior can lead to different outcomes. So our techniques may enable quantum enhanced AIs to learn the effect of their actions much more efficiently. How do they know the correctedness?

I don't know. They continue to say the team notes while their present prototype simulates at most 16 futures simultaneously, the underlying quantum algorithm in the principle can scale without bound. And that's why they're so excited because it can just be scale. It should be able to be scaled up infinitely. That's kind of where they do, though. Yeah, what's the complexity of like a future?

I don't know. I guess they're measuring where the photons can possibly be. And it's the idea of okay, so quantum super position is the idea of something can being in two states at once. So, you know, we've talked about it before the 16 microgram sapphire. It was both moving and not moving at the very same time, which should be impossible, but it is. Go ahead, Jesse. No, I'm just so let me let me dumb this down. Yeah, Dr. Strange had to see 14 million versions

of the future, and he found one in which you can save the world and then they use that information to save the world. In this scenario, what are we using this information to do? Good question. Decide where photons are going to be. Like he shakes violently and sees the future. What do we get out of this? Like, okay, so it predicts that, yeah,

there's different futures. I can do that. What, like, what does this do? It doesn't tell us what those futures are, does it? So what is the- Just in the context of the photons. No, wait, what it's doing is it, what it's, yeah, what it's, it's not like looking at a future, like, reality.

It's watching the photons doing in all different directions and how that might change. I guess reality on a quantum level, but I don't know is with the information they've gathered. What what what is step two because this is like, okay, cool. But like

what is the purpose? What does this tell us? Where are we going from here? So what they say the last quote we have, they say it's very exciting. This is what makes the field so exciting. It's very reminiscent of classical is what makes the field so exciting. It's very reminiscent of classical computers

in the 1960s. Just as few could imagine the many uses of classical computers in the 60s, they say we're still very much in the dark about what quantum computers can do, each discovery of a new application further impetus for their technological development. So I think they're looking specifically at quantum computers.

And really, the difference, from my understanding, between a computer that we have now and a quantum computer, each our computers operate on one or zero, either or a quantum computer operates both simultaneously as though they're both true. So they can run like huge amounts of just like, like numbers and shit in a fraction of a second. I think I read one scientist in an interview, she's like something about like multiple millions of of like mathematical extrapolation stuff can all be run through a quantum computer in like a day that would take a normal computer

decades or centuries. Sounds like like a comic book. Like it sounds like science fiction. You're like most computers are on ones and zeros. But that was from 2019. Mind you, that that article I read you was from four years ago. So what you're saying is we are ever closer Mm-hmm to getting real world holodecks I Believe is where this is headed. I mean predict the future and can also be physical But you need for a holodeck because like you can do anything

Yes, you would have like quantum computing is gonna be hard to like understand I think once we get our like we see a really full computer quantum graphics card is that that's my question. That's yeah Well, that's the 49. Yeah, will it make cyberpunk look better question mark? No, but it might be able to make cyberpunk like simulate better Can I jack into the matrix? 77 yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to simulate. The Jesse NPC can be romantical simply because of the quantum computer. Oh, well. That's creepy.

No, that's creepy. That's all I got. I just think it's cool. I like that you did something about predicting the future, though, because I got this piece from the Akron Beacon Journal here by Mark J. Price about predictions from a hundred years ago about how life would be in 2023 by like, I love these things. I love when the old tiny people are like, they'll have shoes that allow them to fly. Yeah, so this is all from 1923, right? And this is from a scientist from New York called Charles P Steinmetz, who was very excited about the prospects of electricity. He thought that we would have four hour workdays, because electric power would create a utopian society

that freed us from hard labor. He's going to say, cool. Yeah, he was going to saying the time is coming at the present rate of world progress when there will no longer be Backbreaking drudgery and when people will work not for more than four hours a day the rest of the time will be able to follow on natural bent and He says that even though we will be Free to do stuff leisure is like still gonna be going to be a thing. Leisure will be occupied in productive diversions satisfying the particular instincts of the individual. We will be more collectivistic in the operation of our essential productive life and more individualistic in

the pursuit of personal happiness and contentment. Leisure will stimulate educational interests in every conceivable direction. He wasn't wrong about that. I guess not. Why do I feel like this is less representative of the United States and more like some sort of northern European country? You know what I mean? Like it just feels... Because you're imagining Nikola Tesla saying this. You're imagining the actor who played Nikola Tesla and Doctor Who is saying this. You're imagining the actor who played Nikola Tesla and Doctor Who is saying this.

Yeah. Yeah. Like in concept, absolutely. This could have been the future. But in reality, people likes their money and they love ripping off everyone else. So here we are. There's another. Well, there's another guy Archibald Lowe from England who said that there would be a device that London businessmen would use to simplify work. He said, in 100 years time, you will be able to chat in comfort over a telephone that can be used in his car, his house, or his train. He will not hear a squeaky voice saying what every few minutes.

Probably it will be possible for him to see the person to whom he is talking. And if he desires to make notes that will be read immediately in a book situated miles away, which he's right about. He also said, public clocks and probably our watches will be kept in time by wireless and by the same agency, we shall be roused at whatever hour we decide to get up. That's one thing he said. He's right about that. He also said, motor cars will be enclosed by a meter and by a meter device may pick up their power from

government stations. He's correct about that. We could be there. He's right about the idea, wrong about the socialism. He also said an air service will land people from all parts of the world, not at some point, six miles away from the city, but straight on top of a hotel in a roofed arcade street. Like in Dubai, that kind of happens. They have air taxis. Let's see who else we got. We got also the sociologist William F. Ogburn, who was at Columbia University. He warned us about population explosion. He said, in was at Columbia University, he warned us about population explosion. He said, in the United States, we don't really appreciate the fact that the population problem is upon us. Everyone goes on the assumption that it is good business

to have hurrying crowds to carry on in the marts of trade and commerce, in the professions and the manual jobs, but America will have to abandon her idea of taking on more and more population. If not, she is head on for misery, poverty, and destitution. I don't like how anti immigration it sounds, but I he's kind of right. I also wanted to read before I wrap up there's some zingers. Some funny zingers about the future. hilarious zingers. Okay. Yeah, this one's from the Buf- They're roasting us from the past? Uh, sorta. So yeah, so this is the Buffalo Courier in New York said, The year 2023, the scientists tell us, We'll see all men wearing flowing curly locks and all the women with shaven heads. We should worry. We won't be here.

That's not quite right. What? I mean, the flowy locks they got for some of us. What does that mean? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the flowy locks they got for some of us. What does that mean? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's their prediction. Here's the Caledonian record. The men will all be Vin Diesel and the women

should wear Vin Diesel's old hair. The Caledonian record in St. Johnsbury, Vermont said someone dreamed the other night that he was living in the year 2023 and people were going on strike because they only made $125 a day while the price of eggs had gone up to $10 a dozen. Oops. Yeah. You were off. Makes me believe that they're like, you know what? I think that person did see the future. Yeah. Except for the $125 a day part. The Columbus Daily Advocate in Kansas. By the year 2023, it is said that the women will

be running all the businesses of the country, but there won't be any business to run by that time, judging by the way they are burning up gasoline in 1923. What question for you? Hold on, hold on. How much they say you make a day? I'm obsessed with this now 125 125 dollars I mean That's $25 an hour is 70 bucks an hour eight hours. That's 136 dollars a day Anywhere outside of California it's accurate $17 an hour doesn't happen anywhere outside of California. Yeah, that's true. That's no, that's what we're trying to do. I'm saying that's what $17 is.

Is that out here in Texas? So if it's 10 bucks, still 10 bucks, you know. And the eggs were that expensive. Yeah, they were that expensive. Here's another one that counts. Here's the one from the Louisville Courier Journal in Kentucky. They were excavating in the year 2023. What a wealth of possessions this ruler had, declared one scientist. Ruler?

What was his name? asked another. The inscription says Tencent Store. Get it? Tencent Store? Tencent Store. 100 years in the future, we're going to think 10 cent store was the name of a ruler rather than the name of a store. Right, because we're all cave people.

They forgot. This joke is older than branding. This next one is the Racine Journal Times in Wisconsin's last one says, what is the use of predicting what the world will be 100 years hence? It will be the same old world, same old sunshine, same old human nature, and about the same proportion of cranks, agitators, radicals and conservatives. OK, there you go. How about that? Love to hear it. Gentlemen. There you go. How about that? Love to hear it. Gentlemen, I too would like to time travel with you. I love that. I love time travel.

An amazing website I've discovered is might be my favorite thing on on Earth dependent, not dependent on time. You see, um um have you been a fan of dinosaurs before do you love dinosaurs i will live through the 90s man i was there for the jp mania i was there for j well i was there for dino damage my man there is an incredible website that i'm going to send to you right now called ancient earth globe from dinosaur pictures.org. Okay. And I'm just gonna send you this link and it is a globe that lets you change different time periods. You can go Cretaceous, you can go first insects and it lets you see, it lets you see the way it looks, right? You can see Pangea and super contents on stuff, but the winner here, the best

part about this website as it gives you information about, you know, the different parts of what is the Triassic period, right? It talks to you. That's 240 million years ago gives you all this stuff. But the best part is in the top left corner, it says enter a city. And if you enter any city and I'll just, since we're close to it, I'll enter Culver city, California, USA, and it will appear on the map with a red dot. Where, where it is at any point in time in history.

That's cool. Oh my God. You can see where it would be during the first dinosaurs, where it would be. When green algae first appeared. And what's crazy is, for example, Culver city is both on the East coast and West coast and underwater at various points. Wow. It really does get around Culver city. And what's crazy about it then, because this website is about dinosaurs, it tells you fossils found nearby the city and my favorite fact is almost all of them for Culver city are underwater dinosaurs and the fact that

there's something called a Fresno source which is a Fresno source get out of town Fresno source is the greatest dinosaur this is like the funnest toy that I found in a long time on the internet. This is awesome. Thank you for showing me. I fell in love with this and I've looked at every single point of when things are. And the best part is it not only gives you a point of it, you can put like New York city or you can put whatever your hometown is and we'll show you where it's at. And then you can go through history and just see not only the shape of the continents, but also plant life and also, you know, what's going on with the weather. It's so fascinating.

And the best part is also they have outlines of current continents and or countries. So you can see kind of where things were versus, you know, what shape you're used to them being in. So, you know, America at many points in time, America was so much bigger, but then also completely small again, and then also fully underwater. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Like 300 million years ago, there's like a little landmass in the middle of America and that's it. And then 400 million years ago, there's like completely nothing and then 300 million 200 million years ago, then it looks almost exactly like it does

now. Just a little crunch. Right. It's like, it totally changes like the entire, like the story of how the world unfolded is like pretty weird. I didn't think about that. What's crazy then is, yes, it absolutely looks like the modern day America by the time you get to 200,000. But then over the next 100,000 years, it shrinks, it floods, it ices over, and it changes the landscape completely during those time periods. There is no- Totally is like- California during that time is underwater. Half of the way there-

I tried to find Houston, it couldn't find Houston. What? California during that time is underwater half of the way I tried to find Houston. It couldn't find Houston What does this tectonic plate doesn't track that far into the past? What do you mean Houston, Texas I'm looking at right now I Meant 400 million years ago, and I can't find it so I might as you know that far back 170 million years I can find it. Maybe it was inside the core of the earth before that maybe yeah, yeah, that's crazy That's some recently what if it's like some fresh land? That's right now at 170 million. It was almost as basically on the west coast. That's really cool at 470. I see it I'm looking at it right now Houston

540 I'm looking at Houston Yeah, I had to like go in the future and then go backwards and then out. It's finding it. I mean, if you do the thing on the side where it says jump to and then it has a time period, that seems a little more accurate. But this is a really sick website, though. You should actually like go check that out if you can dinosaur pictures dot org slash ancient dash earth that's really hashtag 750 there you go very cool place i figured i would share uh it is a good waste of your time in an educational way delicious yep yeah well thank you jesse and thank

you all for supporting us here patreon.com slash illuminati pod we'll see you guys next week a brand new episode and enjoy your holiday Thanksgiving for those who celebrate and yeah, we'll see you then. Goodbye. Bye Hello everybody welcome To another mini-soap. Yeah. I want to go on record and say I disapprove of this. You've been on record a lot saying that exact same thing I think. And I will continue to do so.

Fair enough. Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome to the mini-soap. Someone's got to be the guy who says, this isn't real. That's what I pay you for. The creepy feeling you feel isn't cause they're creeps. It's cause it's a goof and not real. And I'm trying to save you from lawsuits. Oh, okay. I love that. Thank you, Jesse. But also I believe it. That is so thoughtful. If you pay $20 a month, you can see that he winked at the camera I didn't know such winking. What do you mean? What are you talking about? I? Don't really have a topic today. I just have to like put a message out there right now

so we're going to UFO world for a minute and I thought that was a place where we're going and I was so excited to do a show on the road Oh, man, that'd be so fucking cool. There was a UFO world we could go to why do we always say? We're gonna go do a thing and then it never happens. Do I have to make this happen? I live in Texas so that makes it difficult That's where all the aliens are anyway We go to like the the brothel where the ghosts actually harass you we go look at those ranches where all the UFOs are At we go to we will we will be Austin

We will we keep it weird We'll make at least one of those strange things happen. Yeah, we definitely will however the UFO The UFO fans out there. I just have to send him another fucking message of disappointment my dudes There's a lot going on in the UFO world right now with crush on the skip hearings and all that stuff. And right now people are obsessed once again with the fucking MH 370 flight disappearance. Maybe it's on red. Not only is it back, but it's back and people believe it. And so I get it. You're upset, right? You guys know who corridor crewor Crew is on YouTube? Yep.

So they went and they did a debunking of it. And, you know, even if you disagree with everything that they say in that video, there is one piece of evidence that is so irrefutable that makes them right regardless of how you feel about them. They found the stock footage of that blip that happens when the airplane gets teleported away by the glowing orbs Not only that they overlay it on top of the video and they find little Specs and stuff that are like just around that match up one to one. It is a fake video like I

Don't know why this is just so damning There's no they call they call them like they keep people on reddit especially calling like quarter crew like misinformation agents CIA plants, etc I'm sorry that they fooled you a few months ago with the UFO video that like they were trying to show you how easy it Is to fool you and made you mad, but they're right. They're right Previous video about doubling down on uh really stupid shit like it's okay to be wrong y'all yeah things like i refuse to watch this video they don't deserve my view homie they found the evidence like it's not even it's not even you can't argue it you can't argue it and they reference like a podcast or two that like tries

to debunk the debunk for like an hour and a half Like why aren't those the misinformation agents guys? Why are those guys not the ones that are like leading you to believe what they already believe? That's it. It just sucks. I watch the video and I watch them. It's like the footage It's the footage of like that teleportation effect and they found where it comes from like it's a stock footage thing seems definitive to me right like it is definitive it is so stop focusing on it there's so much more going on right now what was the name of this flight I'm MH 370 there's a lot of like we like hijack all this and be like news report about M 83 saxophone continues to play at the end of the song. Yeah, we hijack it like the saxophonist has gone missing.

We have this blip and it's just like him blips out of the way. Gone. He's just gone. Yeah. It just frustrates me, man. It's like, why are we stuck on this? Like, why are we stuck on something? Because obviously, because it's fantastical? It's just because it's sexy.

People see the footage, they get excited. They want it to be true because it's the coolest one. Not that many people that are on here reading this stuff, looking at it, are in it because they want to know the actual answer, even if it's a non-exciting answer. They just come in because they want it to be true. And then they get hostile when it's not true.

And that's just the truth. Another big part that they point out is like in the video, right? It's a it's a it's through like heat vision, whatever it's thermals. But in thermals, you should not see the exhaust trail of the plane. They show other examples of it and that it sees through it because of the infrared waves that they see, whatever. But in the video, you still see the exhaust exhaust trails meaning they did maybe a 3d modeling and then they overlaid an effect but it doesn't like get rid of the the the con trails from the plane or anything like that and it shouldn't even be there but it's there it's just

telltale yeah it's just all tell exactly it's all telltale it's all very insane that it's still like a huge thing and it's been like weeks of this like fuck dude there's so much better shit happening in the world of UFOs right now Jesse will remember that I'm done I get it as a solid joke it's a solid joke I like that

hey I wanna bring up something to you guys today that I love okay and this is a topic that I think I don't know how often we've talked about this, but I love it to death. So Forbes had an article about the Mandela effect, which as I'm sure many of you probably, hopefully all of, you know, was an anti-apartheid South African activist who spent 27 years in prison before he was released and then became president and then finally passed away in 2013. But for many people, they recall vividly that he died in prison in the 80s. What is up with that?

Couldn't tell you. That's weird. They try their hardest to answer everything in this article, which I think is fascinating. But again, I couldn't tell you, um, this mind boggling phenomenon is sort of like a massive collective belief that an event or a fact is true when it is certainly not true. That's the Mandela most likely, most likely due to faulty memory. Essentially. It's the it's when people talk about Berenstain versus Berenstein bears. That gets me.

That's the one that gets me because I grew up with a lot of that and I always thought it was EIN dude. So yeah, but it's just a mistake. Like it's okay. I definitely can chalk it up to being bad. But it's what's crazy about it is how it affects a mass amount of people on a wide scale and not necessarily people that even come in contact with each other. Just like for some

reason, people get hit. And I know there's obviously like the the goofy answers like it's a glitch of the matrix, which you know, if we're in a matrix, like sure. Okay. Might as well entertain it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, this effect has been agreed on as being a great example of something called false memory. Um, essentially it's something that seems true, but is entirely fabricated by your own mind. And while it sounds implausible that your mind is capable of lying to you. False memories happen all the time. In fact, a great example is when it comes to trauma. A lot of people take their trauma and their brain.

The only way they can keep going is to reassess what happened and give them a false memory of the situation. I will literally jump on that and say alien abductions. There are people who experience alien abductions that found found out later it was a abuse situation as a kid. And they couldn't their brain didn't do it. And on the point that your brain people think your brain can't surprise you, bro. Your dream surprise you every night you dream.

You don't know what's about to happen. Your brain surprising you fucking every time you dream. It happens all the time. I'll be real. The fucking Mandela effect, the literal one about Nelson Mandela. Like I was born in the 80s But like I'm not old enough to remember the 80s or you know Like say have memories of him dying in jail or whatever, but I I pick up some of it, too

Don't you like I pick up some of like the oh Nelson Mandela died a long time ago in jail feeling I don't know why I think that but I do I know he's I know when he died but I have I think on this very podcast though we had the exact same thing with actor rip torn dude where we were just like did he die and we're just like no he's just drunk living in Maine or something last time we were like what happened there was like five people that I was with at a party and eventually he died yelling. Yeah. Well, yeah, we were, there were five people at a party. We were all yelling about Danny Bonaduce being dead, but he's not sure. It's, it's crazy how that works. So it doesn't have to be that big, right? A good example of a like personal false

memory would be leaving the house and did you turn off the stove? Did you close the garage door? Did you send that email? Right. And you can think, of course I did. And then find out you didn't. I've got a great example that happened to me this year where I felt my first like, Oh my God, I must be so old. I was like in the bathroom in the morning, I was getting ready to go and I made sure I turned off all the faucets. One upstairs made breakfast, came downstairs to brush my teeth. Realize I just left one of the faucets completely on. And if I had left for the day, that would have been all I was just like, yo, I definitely, I definitely turn that off,

but it made no noise. So my brain was like, well, there's no noise. So it got me. I have these memories that are absolutely not real, I don't think. But like. I we laugh about it, me and my friends laugh like we we we watch the show lost every week, and it would have like a like a preview of the next week's episode. At the end of every episode, that was just like a little montage of all the things and to this day I swear that son pulled a gun on Jack and said I'm working with the others like

in one of those in one of those previews I remember it to this day and it never wasn't real never happens there's there's something I figured out. Could that be because we know trailers will use footage that doesn't always get used. Is it possible the trailer is out there? But that didn't like happen in the show either. You know what I mean? Like that point didn't occur. Okay. Yeah. There's there's a good example of that that you can actually look up right now Go watch any series of

Hell's Kitchen The show where everyone tries to compete become a Gordon Ramsay chef at the end of every one of those episodes They edit footage together To show something like next time and And then a guy's like, I'll kill you. I'll kill all of you. And then it cuts the next episode. That seems not in it at all. There's no reference to it. It's not there. And what's crazy is when it's on broadcast TV, a week goes by. So you have time to forget that that was happening.

You know, that's going to be fire. Yeah. And then the episode comes here. Like, well, that wasn't in it, but you don't remember because you don't remember exactly why you were excited. If you watch it back to back on YouTube, you're like, none of this happened. They just fabricated drama for the next episode. The next episode arrives and none of it happens. So that could be part of it too. I don't think people realize how much magic can happen in the editing booth.

There is you can And the editing booth of it too. I don't think people realize how much magic can happen in the editing booth. There is you can and the editing booth of your brain. Like once you take that information in, then you also re edit it to be something else. So in the beginning of a serial, the show podcast. Yes. Yes. Really great piece that opens that show like give that show like 10 minutes of your time open. Listen to the first ever episode. It's a great piece on just how like what did you do three weeks ago today? Like three weeks ago to the day? What did you do? Like, you know, just stuff like that. And you're like, wow,

my memory sucks. Yeah. In the consciousness and cognition magazine, right? Uh, they published a study that explained how false memories can happen through the self same system of like something that is essentially called your working self, where all of your memories are not necessarily like a ball, you know, wouldn't be like a memory. Isn't like an inside out, right? It's instead multiple little threads connected to an idea. And then if like a scent hits you or a site hits you, suddenly the memory boom comes back to you. And so you pull on the little thread. That's, that's how it works. And so, um, the working self takes cues from all sorts of different things to build the memory and

it not only helps you reconstruct memories, but also it helps you to sort of imagine what something could be based on past memories and combining memories together. So it's like you pull on one thing and another thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And your brain can be like, okay, what would have based on things that occurred before? What's the possibility of X, Y, and Z happening? And that's really how we grow as a human being. So crazy. And so rain like

does that without us thinking about it? Yeah, absolutely. Like we, it is so much more fascinating than we give it credit for. So, um, it's explained in this article that then for reasons we don't understand, which I love the fact that it's like, look, we don't get this. Our brain malfunctions sometimes and our memory malfunctions a lot of the time. In fact, it's argued that every memory, every single memory we have to some degree has a bit of falseness to it. Like AI because our brain is like, yeah, yeah, we're kind of storing stuff. and then we recall it, recalling the bits we stored and then filling in the rest. And that's why memory isn't oftentimes the most reliable

thing. And so the Mandela effect could be this on a collective level. A great example that I'll just hit you guys with is Describe mr. Monopoly for me the guy on Monopoly and White mustache pretty featureless just like a circle man with a with a mustache a top hat He kind of looks like the Pringles guy Yeah, kind of Pringley man. He's got like a like a coat with tails on I Have an image of him with him running with a bag of money, but I think that's just on a car I don't think that's your shirt him he may or may not have like a monocle. I can't remember

I don't think he does So here so you guys were tipping on the edge there. Yeah, um when asked to describe the Monopoly man many people would say older gentlemen with the cane top hat and Monocle however, there's never been an iteration of him with a monocle yet the great one is the older any yes the tunes is the thing that how do you spell? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Is it is it t u n e s? Ten it's think it's t u n e s if I so is it my it is It's always been looney tunes t u n e s But because it's a cartoon a lot of people when they write it or think it or remember it they spell it t o o

a lot of people when they write it or think it or remember it, they spell it T O O N S because of course anything for sex in the city is actually sex and the city. And then I didn't know that one that is something that I think we all probably know is Darth Vader's classic line. Luke, I'm your father is of course not. No, I'm your father. It is no, I am your father and your father. And the thing is, I thought about that last one because I think I have that last one at least figured out. So

when we collectively as a society have these Mandela effect, things happen to us. I would pause it. That's because another collective event happened that replaced the original memory. And so a great example is Luke, I'm your father is not the line from Empire Strikes Back, but it is every single time in a movie after that said that way, because a great example is the movie Tommy boy. In Tommy Boy, when Chris Farley is talking into the fan, he's going, Luke, Luke, I'm your father. And the reason why is because in another film, you have to say,

Luke, I'm your father, otherwise it makes no sense just to say, I'm your father. Yeah, there's no... And so they kept saying it, and so we just all assumed, Luke, I'm your father is the line. And it became the collective Mandela effect of like, Oh, we weren't, we weren't really thinking. And I have to believe that's what it is. Yeah. You kind of bring in some Obi-Wan Kenobi to it. Luke, you know, you kind of bring it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're bringing a lot of things to it. Yeah. But the best part is the last paragraph. I think it's once again proves why I love science. It's so good. It's like the Mandela effect remains a perplexing enigma, challenging the limits of our understanding. It defies conventional explanations, leaving a profound mystery in its wake. And research on the matter merely scratches the surface of its inexplicable nature.

Attempts to grasp its essence seem only to have led to conspiracy-like theories, hinting at uncharted territories, lying beyond the scope of current scientific comprehension standing testament to the minds capacity for peculiarities that continue to elude our grasp set. We don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. I love I love how it's just so well written, but it's also like we'd all look guys. We don't know. So here's some words. A flabugration of infinitesimal man, flapulation. Yep. Here's what I got for you. It was Thanksgiving this week. It was. And I was thinking of that movie Thanksgiving by Eli Roth. That's like a horror movie. I didn't, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm gonna.

And I was like, there's a giant billboard every time I drive to the office right in front of me. And I'm like, is there a Thanksgiving? I was like, is there a scary Thanksgiving story out there that I could find that was native? Probably. Yeah, well, I would have to imagine. But sure, I don't know, like Thanksgiving Day, like classic ghost story. Is there one? I found this story from the dead history dot com by Jennifer Jones. It's called the Thanksgiving ghost. I'm just going to read it. It's going to be good. I'm the Thanksgiving ghost. This is the best one I could find. And I thought this was kind of a neat story on Thanksgiving Day 1902, a southbound train was nearing Geneva, New York, and came upon the Marsh Bridge. As the train approached the bridge, the engineer and firemen on board heard a piercing scream. When they looked up, they saw a white figure standing to the east of the bridge frantically waving its arms. The engineer brought the train to a stop, and as he did so, they heard another scream and the phantom disappeared before

their eyes. The two men got out of the train and inspected the track and surrounding area for the screaming weirdo they saw just moments before. Nothing was out of place on the track, and there was no sign of any person or thing nearby. As they started to cross the bridge, they heard the shriek one final time. The train pulled into the station, and the men shared their odd experience with the other railroad workers. They learned that there was an accident at that bridge years prior. The engineer and fireman both died when the train went off of Marsh Bridge. The article said that the fireman's body was lost to quicksand and never recovered.

Ever since that accident, a shrieking phantom is said to be spotted on this bridge every year around Thanksgiving Day. Okay, so that's the story. And she says, let me tell you, did any of this really happen? It was not easy to try and figure out if the events mentioned the article from 1902 really happened, or where it happened. I was starting to think it was all just urban legend. But I did find an actual event that very closely matches the details in this story. On March 29 1873, a train left

Syracuse at 745pm heading towards Rochester on the Auburn Road. Within a half mile of town of Geneva, the train ran into a sluice of water, which had washed out a bridge over Marsh Creek. The locomotive, tender, and baggage car fell off the track and down into the flood waters. They practically disappeared under the water. Amazingly, the passenger car stayed on the track and none of the passengers and the rest of the crew were seriously injured. The same could not be said for the engineer and fireman. Both disappeared and due to the raging water, attempts to locate their bodies could not be made immediately. The body of the engineer Ignatius Bwelti was found on the afternoon of Sunday, March 30th, and the body of the fireman Augustus Sippl was found quite a distance away

on the 31st of March. The incident became known as the Marsh Creek Casualty or the Geneva Disaster, and consequently the families of both men sued the railroad due for negligence in failing to properly maintain the bridge. Both families were later awarded money. I couldn't find any connection to Thanksgiving Day. Maybe this is one of those urban legends meant to remind people how fleeting life can be. Or maybe the spirits of engineer Beulti and fireman Sipple were simply trying to warn other railroad men of the dangers of the

bridge. One more time as Jennifer Jones for the dead history. November 23 2017 great little story the best one I could find about Thanksgiving. This Thanksgiving go. I'm usually just haunted by the ghost of indigestion. I like the idea of it being like a be thankful message. Yeah, that is nice. I like the idea of that being like a be thankful message. Yeah, that is nice. I like the idea of that being like a like a kind of scary warning. You know what I mean? I like that.

I like that, too. I like for leaving us on this little holiday ghost tale. Very cool. You guys got a lot of mashed potatoes. Oh, so much mashed potatoes. We'll be back next week with another episode of a mini showed something or other here. Thank you guys so much for supporting us and for joining us. We'll see you next week with another episode of a mini-soad, something or other here. Thank you guys so much for supporting us and for joining us.

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