Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: The November 2024 UAP Hearing

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

From Minisode 205 from the same timeframe on Patreon. All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

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now's the time to give us a try. Find True Crime Obsessed wherever you get your podcasts. Hello my little Jelluminauts and welcome to Miniso 205. We have a good one for you today. Welcome. Welcome little Jeluminots and welcome to Miniso 205. We have a good one for you today. Welcome. Do we? I think so. I got some good stuff. Yeah, what do you got?

Uh, so this started because obviously it's the Bigfoot episode this week. And so I was looking on the Bigfoot subreddit for like a subsequent Bigfoot story that I could like show you from current events but that is not what happened. Instead what I have for you is something from the rhumbled subreddit called Escaped Pet Monkey in Arcata. It goes, I was walking next to the trees, this is from ligamentperson46, I was walking next to the trees that lined the road on the way to the community center when I heard an odd chirping sound. Phone battery was too low for flash so I used night mode to capture pictures of what

I was hearing. I think you can see it running off in the second photo. It looks to me like a small monkey of some sort. Could it be someone's pet? I don't think it's a monkey based on this, but I'll send you the post right here. You guys can have a look at this first post. But this wasn't the post that showed up on our Bigfoot. It was another post that showed up called

My Experience with the Arcata gnome. So give a look at those little pictures. It's the orange thing that's the creature. So that's a little. That's a little. It looks like a mushroom. Yeah, it looks like, it looks like a fungus. It sucks because it's one of those things that when they do the close up, you can tell most of what you're seeing is visual artifacting.

Yeah. But on that post, which is only 20 hours old or so, was another comment that then turned into another post that then made its way over to Bigfoot subreddit, which was called My Experience with the Arcata Gnome, which by OK consideration, which said, I saw a post made on here showing a picture of what someone thought was possibly an escaped pet monkey in Arcata. The animal in the post looked almost identical to something I had seen about a week ago in my yard at night.

I thought I'd share my own experience with it now that I know I'm not crazy, lol. On that fateful night, I had found my dog barking up a storm and jumping up on my screen door. I assumed she needed to go to the bathroom, but right as I was about to let her out, I saw something moving outside of my backyard. It was a tiny little creature standing in the grass close to my fence line. It was grasping one of the pears that had fallen from my pear tree and was seemingly munching on it.

I tried to recreate the scene in the drawing above, but unfortunately I suck at drawing. Anyways, it dropped the pear and quickly took off after that. It was pretty fast, too. I haven't seen it since, so I assume it must have been scared off for good Has anyone else seen these gnomes in Arcada? My wife calls it a gnome. I honestly have no clue what it is and The coup de grace on this is the picture which somehow is horrible, but also somehow like Legitimizes the previous one somehow a little bit

The what previous one somehow a little bit. What? It looks, it looks like a meme, potentially a racist meme, and I just don't know how to describe what I'm looking, I don't like what I'm looking at. Oh, I don't like that. It looks like if Charmander was a human baby. Yes, that's really accurate. Yeah, that pair in that spot really sells the Charmander illusion. Yeah, you can find it on our humble thing. I like is there a little orange creature in Humboldt in Arcata area like going around in the yards chirping and running around eating things with hands? I

don't know, but it's a tiny little big foot. I don't know. It's weird. It's some kind of tiny little big foot. Tiny little big foot. Some kind of tiny little big foot. Tiny little tiny little big foot. I appreciate the extra big foot. A little a little bit more big foot. A tiny bit more big foot.

Jesse, help us. What do you have? Well, I just want to get this on record because I feel like it should be very interesting for us moving forward into the next couple years. On the debrief.org they have an article called UAP transparency under trump 2.0 what the new administration could mean for UFO disclosure and I just want to say, for the record, I kind of want to get our vibe on this, because the article points out, and I think it's pretty accurate, that in many interviews, Donald Trump was saying like, oh yeah, there's something going on, it's so crazy. But in other

interviews, he's like, not really my thing, don't really care about it that much. And they mention a bunch of things about, you know, many people we've talked about on here who have, like Marco Rubio and people who have connections with Donald Trump who have mentioned things about UAP investigations and briefings and hearings and things like that. And so they're just asking questions on the debrief about like, well, what would Donald Trump mean for alien debriefing and the things that we've been talking about the last four years on this podcast? My question for you too is what do you think is going to happen? I'll let you know what I think. Absolutely nothing, nothing new will come of this. And if there, if there wasn't gonna be something new,

it would have happened. The first Trump presidency when he was like trying to distract us from the fact that people were dying from COVID. So like, so today we found out to bring this up. Yeah, I was going to say today, we just found out. Yeah. The, the, the immaculate constellation documents turned out to be real and And yeah, the entire, the entire tone of disclosure is already changing. Let's just, let's, let's start at the top Alex. You're jumping in in the deep end real quick.

Uh, before we get to your topic, Trump is involved in the reason I want to say something because we actually have papers that were submitted to the record in the congressional hearing today. So today, November 13th, 2024, the next UAP hearing happened. There were four witnesses. The four main witnesses were Dr. Tim Gallaudet, who was a rear admiral in the U.S. Navy, who's now retired and works for Ocean STL now.

He then we have Llewellyn Lanzando. Everybody knows who Llewellyn Lanzando is at this point, whether you believe him or not. They have Michael Gold, who was a former NASA assistant administrator of space policy and partnerships, member of NASA UAP independent study team. And then Michael Schellenberger, who is kind of like the lawyer that's been dealing with all of this all. And today it was two and a half hour hearing. I wouldn't. I mean, it's long. If you have time, it's you know, and you're super interested in this stuff. It's worth going through. But a lot of things that were big today were things mean, it's long. If you have time, it's, you know, and you're super interested in this stuff, it's worth going through.

But a lot of things that were big today were things submitted, said under oath, everybody was, it was an actual hearing, you know, as a testimony under oath, and things were submitted to the congressional record. And Alex gets to one of the things that were submitted is a 11 page breakdown of the thing that was floating around kind of just in weird UFO circles

a couple months ago, immaculate constellation. I'll give you the link to the PDF of Immaculate constellation Or the paper talking about it. Oh, that's not that's my actual file That's not the address on his hard drive. Yeah. Yeah, it's just gonna tell you where it is. I'll get this for you Right next to the PORN folder. Is that a government? Right next to the PORN folder. Is that a government? It's government agency. Yeah, yeah, don't worry about any Elon Musk's new government agency Yeah Let me get to the Twitter. He's very smart and clever. He's hilarious. Yeah and good and

Everybody is glad to be glad that he's there doing what he's doing now And everybody is glad to be glad that he's there doing what he's doing now Thank you for the Good feelings. Okay, so there's a I'm gonna give you guys a link to we talked about this guy all the time John Greenwald He operates the black fault. He's the FOIA document man who literally just goes off foyer documents. Nothing else There's the website where he brought together all of the papers that were submitted today Opening statements and so on. The Immaculate Constellation document is in there. These are phenomenal. The Immaculate Constellation document essentially is, it basically just says what it's called is a USAP. So those were

unacknowledged special access programs and then there's special access programs. And to give you the long like the TLDR is it basically says immaculate constellation is like the father program of the SAP's that also like you know shit like that tries to reverse engineer technology try to figure breakthroughs like biologics this and the other we talked about in the Battelle episode and stuff yes all these special access programs that are hyper compartmentalized are basically all lead up to immaculate Constellation, which is like the parent program that oversees all of it. It has knowledge of like what the SAP's are doing, but make sure that the SAP's

aren't communicating with each other. They all report back to that. And they, they, they mention not only do they mention Immaculate Constellation, they put on the record Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, vice presidents of these companies names, both deceased and alive today. What kind of evidence do they have? 4K video, video, where within the SAPs you can find these things.

They were like, put this all on record within that paperwork and within the testimony. And then there was another paper that was submitted by one of the congresspeople today that's even longer that really just, I'm gonna link this one to you directly if I can get to it. Because that's one that has actual documents

from the government from 1946 to 1950 that they were able to get their hands on and people aren't sure how they were able to get their hands on it. Mm't sure how they were able to get their hands on it Where where is that one? I'm trying to get to that one right now for you like where is it hosted cuz it's opening up in my Extension is it also on the black vault? Yeah. Yes, it should be is still in the black vault That's really interesting. Tell me you don't know the origins of these things and That's really interesting. Tell me you don't know the origins of these things And they also say in one of the documents that they like it either China has figured it out or they're really close to figuring it out

That might be let's try. Do you have do you use guys using Chrome? I don't know What is the very specific we're trying to send us HH RG 1130 that okay. That's it right there. Yeah. Okay. There you go. Skinwalkers at the Pentagon. Yeah, that was where well because one of Dr. Latsatsky was in there which is like one of the people they were using but if you scroll down to scroll down and you can see all the different paperwork that were submitted. Yeah, they've been saying that's what does this mean though besides

paperwork? Well, the paperwork is basically if you like acknowledging They are tracking UAPs There's one that goes down from May 12th 1952 Savannah River plant Atomic Energy Commission flying disk at approximately 10 45 p.m May 10 last four employees of DuPont Co Employed on Savannah River plant near Ellington SC saw four disshaped objects approaching the 400 area from the south disappearing in northerly direction.

It's a breakdown and basically these papers are like, these things keep flying up on power plants, nuclear weapons facilities, they're constantly being seen around them and here's a bunch of basically paperwork from the 50s and 40s from the FBI. This one I'm reading from is from the director of the FBI. Mark.

Sure, sure, sure. I guess what I'm asking is these are reports submitted. So this one is a report submitted to the director of the FBI. And it's about a sighting that took place. Yep. There's nothing here that says that was a real sighting or there's evidence of the sighting.

It's just the report of it, right? So I guess what I'm asking is like, is this game changing or is this just acknowledgement that the things we know that they already said were happening are happening? To me it's painting a picture that this thing that has been seen as ridiculous this whole time time has never one time been not taken seriously by the government and that the government is actively and attentively investigating this stuff over all this time. And sure, sure, sure. So Immaculate Constellation is basically a the on the USAP that goes and recovers crashed vehicles. In today's hearing, they said that they have crashed vehicles.

They actually were able to clarify last time they talked about and having non-human biologics they were actually able to classify talk about the kind that they have in there like it's not full bodies it's like little pieces of the what was left over after the crash that they have and they told them what private company or what part of the government rather has them in their possession so today names were dropped locations programs all these things were put on record. And then the NASA guy was there to talk about, like, we have this independent UAP branch in NASA. But in his opening statement, he's like, but because UAPs are so ridiculed, we don't get money to do it. And as long as these like, we need the money to study. He goes, we have the technology to study things in space in like deep stars, black holes, all these things.

But then in his opening statement, he goes, but these pieces of technology were specifically crafted to detect those kinds of things. We need to create technology that is specifically crafted to detect the UAP that are coming in low earth orbit, L.E.Os or Leo's within from our oceans and build specific technology to study that because we don't have that right now. All we have are the military fleers, their videos and stuff. But in order to study this, we need to create the technology to do so.

Just like we created the James Webb telescope to study deep space. We don't have the specific tech. And that was his whole during the hearing. That was his whole thing. He's like, that's clear. This is happening. We want to make the tech to study it. We need to study it.

And everybody else was basically saying, these are where you can find it. Here's the names of the companies. Here's the names of the people go like go there. And so Greenwald, the guy who ran runs Blackfall, I'm just going to read his tweet today. He goes, after years of research, I feel incredibly strongly that the time to focus on agency heads and government personnel is now. They need to sit in the chair and account for what we've been hearing from these those speaking as private citizens. The secrecy is too thick and the stone walling is too frequent on this issue ignore. And although not everything we are hearing from whistleblowers conveying information they heard from others may be a hundred percent accurate on all fronts,

I feel strongly it is time to figure out what is real, what is not, and hold government agencies and their leadership accountable for what is downright provable with evidence. The countless layers of secrecy that they are using to shield us, we the people, from the truth. I have filed approaching 11,000 FOIA requests over the past 28 years. The secrecy surrounding this issue above all others I've tackled is beyond comparison. If I can do anything, you know where to find me. FOIA has produced enough verifiable evidence to support the above, and I am happy to hand it all over." And that's where he stands, and he's like only operates off of FOIA stuff.

He's very much gone against Louis Elizondo many a time. He's gone against Green Street many a time. But I agree with him because that's kind of where I sit. Like we have all these documents. We know now have names, we have places. And at the beginning of the hearing, Congress, some of the Congress people said that they were, when they're not allowed to say the names

because they need to be said in the SCIF, told not to ask specific questions and don't say specific things in that hearing. And that's all they were allowed to say the names because they need to be said in the skiff told not to ask specific questions and don't say specific things in that hearing. And that's all they were allowed to say about it. I have no idea. But again, what this what has this changed? What is the where do we stand? We're not trying to the question of what Trump will do.

I don't think so. So that leads into the paper. One of the papers that was put in, it talks about how after the 2017 leak of those videos from in The New York Times, Obama, President Obama called everybody in and demanded like to be briefed. And they briefed him on what they deemed was necessary and everything else.

Trump was unofficially debriefed about legacy programs, but it was never official. And the reason for that is that within the paperwork that was submitted today was because they could not trust him. So they did not officially debrief him on anything modern, only the legacy stuff when he came asking about it. So I don't think he's going to get shit because I don't think the CIA and the heads of the intelligence agencies are going to do that. I don't see he's gonna get shit because I don't think the CIA and the heads of the intelligence agencies are gonna do that. I don't see why they would.

The direction I thought you were going with that was like I read something too about Xi Jinping. That's another separate thing is like China either has figured out some of the technology or it's not China's and they don't know which one is. The concern that I feel like Trump could have with this is if there is a chance that if there is an opportunity to make contact or to act as the representative

for all of humanity or to be on top of the alien thing, I could see Trump wanting to get in there to beat China. But that's the only real interest that I could see him having unless these motherfuckers step out from behind a veil and go like, we're gonna shoot you. Yeah, the thing is, that would require immaculate constellation to come out from, and actually, that's never gonna happen.

So no, what John Greenwald, a few others saying, is this hearing above all else, blew open the doors for hearings and calling these named people in to have them sit down because now that they have their names. For sure. I it's tough to read through all the paperwork. I haven't even gone through all of it.

I've gone through about two and a half of the documents dropped. Some of them are like 20 pages. Some of them are like six. Depends on what you're reading. You have interest in what was kind of put forward. You know, it's just stuff that hasn't been documented for the fact that immaculate constellation not only fucking came up, but like got put like had a document for it got put on record was like put into the record And whatnot is kind of wild Lauren Bo Baer asked about

Human alien hybrids and all the witnesses were like no, that's not not anything we know about like that's you know So the more fantastical shit that people latch on to, even they are like, no, that's no. She just has dumb questions the whole time. Surprise. But they are saying like not only are like we working on reverse engineering it, but some of the papers say we figured out some of the stuff. They talk about the worry about China getting and breaking into it before all of it. And the fact that it's so compartmentalized, it's doing it to service. And the NASA guy was basically like, look, give us money to research this shit.

Like we can't research it without technology to specifically for it. And we need the money to do it. And so he specifically said cell phone cameras and that kind of shit is just not good enough. Like we need stuff. So yeah, is it, was it gonna blow, did it blow the doors open?

No, but I don't think, I didn't think it was gonna be blowing the doors open, but we've been through so many of these I didn't expect it to, and I don't know if anybody was. I was just eager to have another hearing because I was curious what the fuck was even gonna be said and today I was surprised by not just, not what was said, but by the paperwork, just the endless paperwork that was submitted alongside it, which didn't really happen last time. There was a lot of like, he said, she said, can't talk about it, skiff meeting, skiff meeting, and this time it was different.

I don't think he's gonna care unless there's a threat to him or a chance for him to get something, that's it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think, I personally like, yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's gonna do anything about it. I don't know. I don't think I personally like. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's going to do anything about it. I don't know. I mean, it's really going to think above all, it really will require the intelligent heads to like intelligence heads to come out and be like and admit.

I don't think they'll ever want to do that because that's control. So like, you know, I don't know. It's just like it is what it is. But this is this is I don't think people were expecting the paperwork. And I'm just again, I'm surprised Immaculate Constellation I wrote that off the moment I even read about Immaculate Constellation the first time around I thought that was fucking a joke so proves me wrong I don't know I don't think it blows the doors off of anything but I do think this is yet

another step forward because this felt like the the follow-up to the last one and being like in here's my paperwork that I promised. It just took forever because meeting like hearings never happened. That's all. But I don't know. I do not think it like it's like did anything for like, it's not even on any of the main news. So like, it's not really going to do anything. But you know, for those of us in the, in the following this shit, it's a pretty big step. And for John Greenwald to kind of come forward and kind of take the side of Elizondo is very rare. It's just interesting. I don't think it proves anything. But as far as Trump, if he got actually

briefed on it, though, like when you play the game where if Trump did get briefed on it, I think I stand with Alex. We're like, if he benefited from it or could like make himself like the hero or whatever and big, strong man. Yeah, I think he would. I truly do think he would But who fucking knows if that'll ever happen the next four years are gonna be wild Maybe the aliens will show up and just take over planet Earth As long as they're not like the nope aliens, it's fine

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