Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: Tiny Time and Large Lads

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Jesse, Alex and Mike jump into the weird "news" they found around the internet. All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Mike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

Diamond Dogs I'm going to get you. When this comes out for free, people will be very confused. They're going to be like, why did Alex say that? I was driving and I died. The man in the back seat. And he got me. I am going to get you.

Welcome to the minisode, everybody. I know just has something cool, but let me just do. I want to do mine first because it's pretty quick. It's not like something to be diving into. Who knows what Alex has? And I don't know what Alex Oh, it's good On my screen

Alex's The image is totally frozen With his mouth open Oh, it just fixed itself Okay, we're back What if I just do that instead As like, just like That's just how I do it

I want to talk about really quickly The Wall Street Journal Two-part article About UAPs that they released A couple weeks Like last week of the week before Each week apart And it's fascinating

Because they sucked It's good It's good because people Are reading about this shit that don't ever see it. It's not good because they don't mention their sources as to where they get these information and stuff. However, what I felt fascinating was that John Greenwald,

the Black Vault guy, after this article dropped and he shit all over it as well, what he released was interesting because what we learn is that what he thought was just one author writing on this article has been in contact with him since January of this year. And since then, has been in hours and hours and hours of communication with him about getting certain documents that he got for the article and whatnot.

And then as the article came out, he says it's insane because they ignored all of it. They didn't use any of it. And so he goes on, I'm going to read a little bit of his tweet. And then he links every single source they asked for that he got for them and that they did not use in the article. Because the two piece article basically makes shits on it,

makes fun of it and says it's all disinformation, essentially. That's basically the extent of the article pieces. So he goes, this was how the author and what he was under the impression that there was only one described the recent Wall Street Journal two part UAP piece. As promised, I waited until part two came out

to fully judge, but the final piece is clearly not what was pitch. Part one was largely unsourced with no real evidence presented, while part two seemed to not be a part two at all, but dove into mostly information that's already been published before with the exception of one thing that did interest me, but I'll get to that in a different

day because I'm not entirely convinced there's truth to it. So he goes on to say that in this thread. He's not, he won't share any of the private communications because, you know, you know, privacy stuff. Um, but what he does share is, uh, his conversations took, uh, took place over the course of numerous days stretched over a couple of months. He was first approved January 21st and he was on numerous phone calls about this, what this article is going to be. Topics included Louis, Lewis, uh, Lewis Elizondo story, uh, the TTSA and Crotto, which are like just more TTSA government agency branches. But also the UAP cover up overall, historical documents, UAP photos, the blanket over classification of UAP visual imagery, tactics by the DOD to cover up issues relating to this when using FOIA, AAWSAP, UAP, UAP task force, NASA UAP. This is a list of stuff he goes over and over and over, and he goes on to say, my angle has never been pushing the alien hypothesis, rather I push hard on why the secrecy exists at all.

If you take most of the skeptical angles on UAP, much of the secrecy to the extent it goes to, and the tactics that we see to cover it up, it doesn't make much sense. And as most of the world and mainstream media focuses on UFOlogy post-2017, the history with evidence shows this goes back much farther, some of which remains unexplained. And with the passage of time, the government loses more and more of that history, like the documents just disappear. And after filing 11,000 FOIA requests or so,

I can tell you that although lost documents happen, it seems oddly unique to the UAP topic where more, more interesting historical UAP records have all been lost from agencies, including the CIA, NSA, and the Air Force. So with that in mind, that the records I sent over were not trying to push the alien narrative, here is a breakdown of the material. Although I understand story angles can change, and the above list of issues is quite long and would require a book to properly cover.

What the story was told to me, which is why I spent time helping, was wildly different than what was published. And then he goes on. And so he lists things. He's got a CI. I'm going to give you guys the link to the link to the, that Twitter thread because you can just like go look at the link. I'm going to just list off the topics without going into any of them particularly. Uh, he, a CIA material that he references

UAP task force and NASA briefing material. This one's interesting too because I don't know if you have boys ever seen that one, but it's literally a briefing between, uh, the UAP task force and NASA. And there's a part where it says there's three possible UAP explanations and two of them are heavily redacted. Uh, then there's Navy UAP photo secrecy. I hate that. That's so dumb, isn't it? documents on the TTSA the root of the present day see you like it's a list that goes on and on and on of all these documents he put out there

they use none of it and it's just again another one of those it's out there to shit on the UAP thing and make most people who are not going to find this just read it and then disregard the topic completely again so that's you know I just want to lay that at the feet of the people

be aware of it certainly there's certainly an element to UAPs that's going undiscussed there's certainly there's certainly some reason why this keeps occurring and it's certainly not just to point out every time it seemingly is happening with like evidence that it shouldn't be the problem is nobody has any idea what the fuck it is even as we see all these memos even as we see all this stuff nothing that we've seen really makes it the fucking cool videos from last week of those

that was like trying those lights yeah those were awesome weird ways it makes it nothing gives me any deeper understanding of what might be the reason I don't know everything there is to know about UFOs. That's my thing. Really quickly, I'm going to do mine because it's kind of a kind of a silly one. But I also want to do a mini one before I do my real one, because I almost did this, but it's not really that much of a story. But I thought it was interesting. The relay to satellite was launched in 1964. It's like a Vietnam era satellite. It looks like it's made of paper. It's some dumb old satellite design from back in the day. I kind of wish it was origami just in space.

That'd be amazing. It really does. It looks, it almost, it almost looks like it is. I'll shit, look at, look at this, look at this, uh, image. I don't know if you can see it with that link, but it's like an old timey, old timey. Oh, yeah. It's like 1960 sci-fi looking. It does.

Exactly. Yes. Yeah. So this thing, uh, was declared dead in 1967. But. in 24 in June there was a giant electromagnetic burp

that emitted from the satellite for no reason that nobody anybody knows it could have been a giant electromagnetic charge that was building up in the satellite for 60 years could be that but nobody really knows literally it made everybody go like holy shit what the fuck was that and then they like saw what it was was, which was that it was probably this satellite burping.

I just thought that was an interesting thing that could happen and that you should know about. That's cool. I love that. But what I want to talk about today is like the world's smallest scale supervillain exists, and he's in Spain. In Severa Spain. What do you mean? Yeah. There was a beekeeper who was 70 years old.

And it was, this was last Friday, I think. Is he from Jupiter ascending? No, it was about 1 p.m. And he was on the N2 highway, which is in Catalonia, in Severa. And they pulled this van over for erratic driving with this 70-year-old man. And the old man was not wearing his seatbelt. And when they pulled him out of the car, the old man was not apologetic. He said, I should have run you over.

And then they tried to give him a... I thought you were going to say he wasn't wearing a seatbelt, but he was wearing like a suit of bees all over. he said I should have run you over he refused to take a breathalyzer and then he walked to the back of his van open the doors and released a swarm of honeybees to attack the officers

yes he says that I should have run you over while he's opening the door at the same time both the cops got super stung they had to like run into a restaurant everybody like in the restaurant was like trying to help the people like the cops get in because it was like a cloud

of bees the dude like fled the scene because like at that point what are you going to do when you're a 70 year old beekeeper but apparently he didn't get too far they tracked him down they arrested they took a statement he was released on bail in a couple hours both officers went to urgent care uh got cortisone and uh the local newspaper segre reported that the man may have been judicially acquitted of assault because he's like a weird crazy old man that doesn't deserve to be punished maybe but is it true just that when you get old you just can't be arrested for anything like for long like god damn dude who knows but apparently in may like there's been like

there was like a protest in spain because people are like so violent towards the cops very different situation than what's going on in my country at this time yeah our cops are just like the citizenry is just unleashing bees upon the traffic cops at routine traffic stops yeah i love that dude we need to do that here apparently in 2024 there was 223 assaults in january alone on cops in catalonia which is not a big place and in 2024 all together there was like 2,500 assaults uh this one just happened to not all of them involved bees probably honestly just this one uh we got our big guy but when do we get like our wasp terrorist the wasp terrorist that guy is in metal gear solid three and he is scary as fuck but if you want to

see something else i just want you guys to this will this will be the last bit of the story that i want to show you guys you guys got to see this just because come on i mean is it his b car you got to just it's him getting taken away you i mean it's too funny it looks it looks like he really is he is a villain it looks like dangar yeah do you think do you think when they said like what's in the back of your car sir he turned to them and said what could it be and then open it and they attack like i need that i have no idea i have somebody from the boys universe who just gets the shittiest power when getting i love this guy he talks the bees he's the you know he commands them he doesn't really have a power so much as he just owns

many bees he's like if ant man if ant man wasn't a genius he just had ants yeah that's kind just an antkeeper. I don't know. Anyway, that's my minisode topic for this week. I did not want that to be the one we waited for till the very end. Honestly, though, it would have been acceptable. I would have accepted it. I am glad we've saved this for last because it's going to make Alex,

it's going to make Alex's head hurt. It's going to make Mathis say a lot of crazy things. I'm very excited. Is that what it's going to make me go do? It really is. All right. So I'll just ask the question. What if every.

thing we knew about time was completely wrong. That would make a lot of sense to me. I'm going to use some text over on study finds. We did an article on this, but also, Gunther Kletchka at the University of Alaska Fairbanks is the big focus here. He has developed a mathematical model in which he proposes that time has

three dimensions instead of one. And this could finally unite quantum mechanics and Einstein's theory of relativity. into one single theory. Okay. Right now, Einstein explains big things like planets and black holes perfectly. Quantum mechanics explains things like tiny particles perfectly. But when scientists try to combine them, they find out, like, a great example,

what happens inside a black hole, right? The math completely breaks down. Like, it just doesn't make any sense. None of it works. It's like having two different instruction guides for the same bookshop. Well, it's interesting, great, because if you're in the black hole itself, the physics or whatever would make sense from within the system. But on the outside of the system, you can't understand the system unless you're in the system. You can only look on the outside of it.

Damn. It's like Newtonian physics would make no sense to, if we were in a black hole, would make no sense to the universe above it because our Newtonian physics. We have our own little situation going on. Yeah. So, uh, good there says, think of time like a braided rope from far away. It looks like a single strand moving in one direction. But up close, you can see it's actually three separate chords twisted together. That's essentially what he's proposing about time itself.

Time in its three dimensions, he breaks it down. The first dimension of time controls the tiniest processes in the universe. Things happening inside atoms in less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second. This is quantum mechanics. The second time dimension acts like a bridge, connecting the microscopic quantum world to the everyday world we can see in touch. The third time dimension

governs the slowest, most massive changes in the universe, like how galaxies form and evolve over billions of years. This is where Einstein's gravity takes over. We only experience one dimension of time because the other two only matter at extremes we never

encounter in daily life. It's like living in a house and only noticing the first floor while the basement and attic exist, but they don't affect your daily routine. I think I played doom blood like that. The theory makes specific testable predictions that they're going to test about particle masses and gravitational waves and cosmic behavior, various things that they're going to try over the next decade to verify or disprove.

If correct, this can mean that matter and energy are actually made from the bending and flowing of three-dimensional time itself, completely changing how we understand reality. If you want to deep dive that and get into it, you can. But yeah, I'm still curious. I'm going to have to read about it because, like, does it explain why we as individuals would experience the flow of time individually, even if on a microscopic unnoticeable scale? Well, I think, I think that's the experiment because if there's three layers, there's the microscopic R kind of in between bridge and then the gigantic, we are experiencing bits of both because we're stuck in between. Interesting. And so that's kind of like we're the bridge between them.

We're in that space where we are small enough that we aren't big, but we're big enough that we aren't small. Isn't space and time also the same thing? So would it not also be explaining space? Well, I mean, it's again, he's saying it would explain literally everything matter itself, matter and energy are actually, according to him in this study, the bending. and flowing of time. That is so fucking like,

like, I can like start or something. I can like start to listen to the words and unpack it and like kind of conceptually understand what you're talking about. And then you're like, but no matter what I do, I'm going to be completely wrong

about my understanding of it until a scientist explains it to me. I'm excited. Yeah. When are the, do they say when the studies are going to be happening or the experiments? So I mean,

the initial mathematical study is already out. If you want to look that up, you can. First off, study finds that, org has the breakdown article where I got most of the information, but the published article is in World Scientific

Connect. And you can probably just look up Goonther. It's K-L-E-T-E-T C-H-K-A from the University of Alaska Fairbanks did the study. And you can go read the full, real actual thing, or just the breakdown.

But either way, fascinating stuff. And the idea that time could be it, Like everything could be the concept of time. Maybe time needs to be redefined. You know what I mean? Like time?

Yeah. What if time is consciousness? It feels just like a like hot or cold, right? Like kind of like something that's environmental based on our. It all sounds too like what I was talking about last week of like the idea of matter. Like consciousness doesn't come from matter. Matter is derived out of consciousness through space time or what have you of like maybe that's what it all is. It's all that.

Well, I mean this doesn't explain the idea of like. the quantum mechanics of we all exist at the same time like that kind of thing what this is saying is that the reason why mathematics isn't working out is because we are operating on one time when really it's three separate times

and they all connect and we're just witnessing it all trying to figure it out but really it's it's one he's not even talking about going back and forth or wrapping around he's talking about the braid itself it's going to be almost like

time is almost like on a scale or like a spectrum almost like from slow from smallest and how they feel time up to a biggest now i know he's not saying that specifically sure sure sure of like it's a progression we're in the middle of that yeah it's it's it's a vast it's like just time operates on different scales but it connects all together and so once we kind of crack that because we're only viewing it like we exist in the world of like a goldfish like we're not on the surface we're under the water and we're living our life thinking we know everything there is to know, but there's so much more. And that's kind of the vibe here,

is that it, it, we aren't, it's always been there. And it will always be there, at least according to him. Now, again, this could be one of those things, because he said it's either to verify or disprove. This could be wrong. This could, it's just a theory right now. Do you think, or I guess hypothesis? Do you think that when we finally, like, if in our lifetimes somehow scientists prove the nature of existence in some sort of definitive way like that, do you think that our brains will be able to just sort of like naturally perceive it do you think it'll be simple in that way like how you can kind of perceive the end of evangelicalian you know what interesting yeah yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know if it'll do anything quite that dramatic but i can see like

it might reframe how things are i i perceive the world at the very least on a personal level if they throw physics out for a completely different system in like five years i mean there wasn't physics a hundred years ago like like the way that we know it right so I mean, I did have math, we did have math about how like they had models of like the orbits of Earth that were perfectly predictable to where like the stars would be, but it was wrong because it was it they like the math worked out in the wrong way. And it was like fascinating. It's like yeah, we could literally be could literally have like built a mathematical representation representation of time and it might work out. But it might be wrong at the same time. Yeah. I think I just said this on some other show. I'm not sure. But I was watch that show QI all the time. It's. like this UK show that's just like people saying interesting educational shit and making jokes about their dicks yeah but yeah but they did a thing where because the show has been on for like 25 seasons or some crazy amount of it's like been on for years and years and years and years and so like there's one guy on it who's always on who's always on every episode of the show

and he they were like referencing like hey do you remember like when we did x y and z it was like yeah yeah well ever since then like since Since the beginning of the show, like 80, it was like a crazy number. It was like 85% of the things that we've said on the show are like incorrect. Like since, like in the time since, like, that's awesome. Knowledge has been updated to like better reflect reality in the sense that it wiped out much of the information that's mentioned in the show. It's like really kind of interesting, like the accuracy. And we are living through.

Like it's not making a lot of mainstream stuff, but we're living through like breakthrough. After a breakthrough when it comes to quantum mechanics and understanding. Like you saying we're living through breakthrough after breakthrough and no one seems to care. I have a feeling if they came out and said the way we understand reality is a little bit, people be like, I got kids and bills. Like the new understanding of reality sucked your dick. It would be like all over the news. Yeah, somehow people, if it hawked to it, it would be an international sensation.

And it's like the weird, the weird takeaway I get from me saying that is like, it's like, that's just the, that's what capitalism does. It prevents humanity from being able to learn and explore and that. to wonder actual way because you're too worried about shit that in the end genuinely won't matter correct yeah I mean that's why the literal philosophers in ancient like Athens they didn't do nothing except sit there and think and like sit under trees and talk to each other again they were privileges hell but like oh absolutely but you know that's their job yeah some of the stuff they're saying back then has

now come in like proven weirdly right in quantum mechanics now because the stuff just like the thought experiment puzzles that have no solution now make sense in other ways. And obviously they were very wrong on a whole lot of shit too. But still, yeah, I wish we had like, I mean, we saw philosophers today, but they don't hold the like

communal sway or importance they once may have. Sadly, most academia isn't, hey, let's sit around and think. It's like, well, I got to find a way to generate money to fund my next project. So I got to do a bunch of bullshit. Like, it is it's all, it's not

the way it used to be and that's sad and thankfully we have people that are coming up with and again I don't know the likelihood of this being successful but the idea this dude is like I'm gonna change time hopefully that'll get the man some money to do some research you know what I mean that's it's all like figure shit out that would be like cool yeah seeing a single atom do like quantum processes due to like a laser beam and stuff like yeah more of that shit because that should be possible please yeah well on that and I love that on that uh quantum discovery of time or potential discovery of time we'll be uh we're off we'll be back next week with another minisode here here on patreon.com slash illuminati pod we appreciate your support we love you goodbye bye