Chilluminati Podcast - Minisode Compilation 33

Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Hello, my little Chilip anotone. I Hedge lurburd hot swap I hate both you so much Welcome to mini-sode 113. Uh, lucky number 13. Lucky number 113. Uh, boys, today we're back on Bigfoot watch. I have a video for you.

Starting point is 00:00:55 Yes. Bigfoot has been seen again this time filmed and watched as a big game hunter was out, saw or heard something moving, he dipped into a bush. And when he saw what he, what he, we see here on camera is what we get. So this, I got to give name or his penis back to eat it. Yeah, that's up the right link. And you should, that's a whole other cryptid story. And you know what you should, what happened at man's penis? There you go. This is a video that you can describe what you see when it is playing skip ahead to a minute 15.

Starting point is 00:01:29 Okay, so for the beginning of this, the first at least minute, 50 seconds is text saying a man sent the footage to these people and he thinks it might be far cry Appalachia. Yeah, yeah. He's ducking behind the tree. I can see. Oh, he's zooming in. Oh, yeah. Yo. Yo, this is pretty good. This is like a skulky.

Starting point is 00:01:54 You know, like how Charlie Brown walks when he's sad. Yeah, yeah. That's what this, that's what this bigfoot's doing. Yeah, he's looking to walk along. Walking by. He looks big and he looks well defined and I can see his sloping silver back like head. He looks good. And you would get a good to watch him walk for a good while and then he turns into the

Starting point is 00:02:13 trees and we lose sight as he like pushes like a branch out of the way. That is not bad. Whatever this thing is. Not a bad video. It's obviously not conclusive that this is. It's not a bear. Clearly. There's not a bear walking on a time legs.

Starting point is 00:02:24 No way. That's a man in walking on a time legs. No way. That's a man in a suit. Yeah, you're right. I mean, it could be. It could be. It could be a man in a suit. That's exactly what this could be. The way this guy films it though, I appreciate, he actually gives a clear shot.

Starting point is 00:02:39 Try to stick it close. Yeah, we're currently like the part in the video about a minute 58 and he starts like moving up trying to follow it. But it's not super blurry. It's not super blurry. He looks like he loses track of it. And yeah, then the rest of the video is stabilization. There's a freeze frame that you can look at, but it's again really hard to tell.

Starting point is 00:02:56 What we're looking at, but hey, hey, out of the many different bigfoot videos we've seen the past like three or four of them, shall we say. This is maybe the best one by far. The last one I think was like a pixelated clarity. Yes, absolutely. Yes, in terms of visuals, not, you know, not most convincing. What is the most convincing bigfoot video you've ever seen, Jesse? I've never seen one that's convinced me not once.

Starting point is 00:03:18 What about the one where they're throwing the tree? That was pretty good. That was, that was a something, I don't know what that was, but that was amazing. Yeah, I don't know what it was. That's pretty good. That was, that was a something, I don't know what that was, but that was amazing. Yeah, I don't know what it was. That's pretty good. That's all I got. There's nothing unfortunately for complete total clarity. The man didn't give his name.

Starting point is 00:03:34 He didn't give where he was hunting. He didn't give like anything other than he was hunting and he caught this on video and that's all that said. So there's sure there's no information on who the individual who took this video is, if he actually was hunting, is it just a hoax he's doing? Who knows? Obviously. I mean, like props to the look of it at least,

Starting point is 00:03:51 like if it's a hoax and if not, like damn, that looks good. It made it to coast to coast articles, you know, so like they got that goal. Let's see it. So that's all I got. Where was that again? Where is this happening? Good question.

Starting point is 00:04:04 We don't know. Oh, okay. The guy didn't specify anything other than he was out hunting. He's a big game hunter. Yeah, okay. And it was just him. I just want to say, I love the end of this video. It says, what's real to you is fake to others and what's fake to you. No, that's not is real to others.

Starting point is 00:04:23 Which is terrible. That's terrible. Please don't live by like that. Truly terrible. That's dangerous to you. That's not is real to others. Which is terrible. A terrible model. Please don't live by like that. Truly terrible. That's dangerous, honestly. That's not a terrible. That's dangerous. What is reality?

Starting point is 00:04:31 Our own perception of what real like that's you're in dangerous territory. The stabilized footage looks pretty dang good though. I'll give you that. Yeah. I am intrigued. It is. It's one of the videos that I think I file into worth seeing.

Starting point is 00:04:47 Whatever that is, it's really there. It's actually there. It's not like, yeah, exactly. That's all I got, though, boys. So either one of you take it off my hand. Can I go next, please? Yeah, of course. Mine is so stupid anyway.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Could the Tibetan brown bear explain sightings of Bigfoot and the Yeti? I figured that would be a good follow-up. Oh my gosh. Yes. A conservation researcher believes that a rarely seen species of bear could account for sightings of the legendary creature.

Starting point is 00:05:15 Believed to reside in their remote mountains in force of Tibet, Bhutan, and Nepal, the Yeti is long or may into spiritual and cultural staper for the people who live there. But while local people are adamant the Yeti exists, Madochitri, a researcher in Nepal's national trust for nature conservation, believes the sightings of the creature are actually the Tibetan brown bear, an extremely rare and

Starting point is 00:05:42 endangered species that still clings on in the region. Because they have a footprint that looks very similar and they're bipedal and physically they're described as being something of kind of like a big tall, walking thing. Local people, particularly nomadic families, have shown me several times hair samples and footprints of a Tibetan brown bear in the Highland pastures saying it belongs to a Yeti. But I've concluded, after doing research, that it is the brown bear. Also, signs of digging for Himalayan mormits can be seen in upper Mustang. People generally say this is done by the Yeti or Mithae as they say. It could

Starting point is 00:06:27 certainly be argued that the bears themselves are just as elusive as a Yeti, probably even more important than a Yeti with a 2011 list of threatened species saying that only 20 live in the entire country. So they might as well just be Bigfoot. Yeah, I mean, except it's not the explanation of like, it's Bigfoot, it's like an extremely rare breed of bear that no longer exists barely. Which is kind of like a Bigfoot, you could just call it a Bigfoot and I would be like,

Starting point is 00:06:57 you're right. You know what I mean? You say Bigfoot though, I say Bigfoto, you know what I mean? Yeah, and let's call the whole thing off. So that is. Oh yeah, just stop caring about Bigfoot forever. That's on somebody who wants to hide the truth. Yes, he was just that was a song joke,

Starting point is 00:07:10 but you know, like it's, it's, I don't listen to music very much either. So it's fine, you know, it's a little bit. But that, it's a little bit. Yeah, we're in there. We know what's going on. Yeah, and so they're saying,

Starting point is 00:07:21 they're saying that, yeah, look, it's a rare thing and could be just as rare as an elusive bigfoot, but it's certainly not a bigfoot or a yeti. Yeah, I talked, I touched on that briefly in the big feet episode about how like, when you look at a bear sitting, it looks like a dude sitting. And that alone is like enough for like being over a hundred yards away, right? Sure. And I love the idea that it's fun to be like, look, it's not like a mystical creature, it's just like a very, very rare actual living thing, which to me, you know, is kind of big foot in itself. I like that.

Starting point is 00:07:58 Love that. Very in the spirit of Bigfoot, if there was like a mundane explanation for Bigfoot, and not the reality that the Bigfoot is an interventional being to bring peace to everyone. Thank you. Thank you. I've never, I know my no bigfoot. He kills. I've seen me. We watched that movie. Bigfoot is a mass murderer. Only the only the only suburban bigfoot are murderers apparently.

Starting point is 00:08:19 So that's what happens to everybody lives in the suburbs. That's a suburban Sasquatch. It's the very suburban Sasquatch. Bostonian Bigfoot. Yeah. Bostonian Bigfoot. It's a suburban Sasquatch. I'm a suburban Sasquatch. I'm Harry and the Henderson.

Starting point is 00:08:32 That's true. That's true. All right. So, I don't like to get super political on this show, but today I'm going to talk. What? Today. Why you can't wait. There's a big surprise.

Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah. Today, I'm going to talk about something lightly political. If you know what's going on in Georgia, you know that there is an election between Warnock and Walker that has gone into a runoff that's going to be happening in a couple weeks. And one candidate is extremely qualified and the other is not. I don't want you to meet. I don't know what you're gonna know. I have, I don't, I wouldn't normally just put a quote

Starting point is 00:09:10 from Herschel Walker as my story today, but I just, I'm gonna just put it here and I want you guys to listen to it and then maybe Dean can grab it and chuck it in so that the people can hear it as well. I don't know, it's not really a political message that I'm really trying to get across here. I just want you to say I just want you to give this a listen. It's pretty long, but it's actually unbelievable that it actually is a real clip.

Starting point is 00:09:34 So I hope a lot to just react to it live, maybe like sync up together and press play on it together. So you guys can be he is he is at the moment baffled that a werewolf can kill a vampire in this press conference. It's only been a minute and I'm in like I feel like it's been 10 wait till he wraps wait till you see where he's going with this. Okay, I mean, uh, yep. Not done yet. I think he complimented Warlock there. I don't say he has a faith and he has the power of faith is what's going to get you through it, I guess, is the vibe.

Starting point is 00:10:32 So I don't know why there's like this huge extended vampire metaphor here. I'm not sure. My question was, what do you think he's talking about? What like show do you think he's talking about? My first question? Um, I do. Okay. I got it.

Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. And number two is like, what's going on with this guy? Uh, clearly concussions, um, multiple. Yeah, maybe that. I've never been trained. I mean, like, what do you think that's why I just wants to be in politics? Like, what do you think is going on? No, I mean, I think he's, I think he's, I mean, if we want, if we're talking politics,

Starting point is 00:11:05 I think he's a tool of the GOP or at least was for a good while. Now he's mostly worthless to them because they've lost the Senate at this point. I don't know if he wants, I think he enjoys being in front of a camera. I think he enjoys the attention and I think he enjoys the whatever bizarre popularity he's getting from this, but I don't think he knows what the fuck he's doing right now. Well, I mean, I think, you know, trying to like save us from internet trolls, I feel like him as a person has the exact same qualifications that the three of us have to run for office. Like, yeah, I could sit up there and say we're more qualified.

Starting point is 00:11:42 I could sit up there and tell you a story. He's richer though, so that makes him more qualified according to the United States. Fair point. Yeah, I could sit up there and say we're more qualified. I could sit up there and tell you a story. He's richer though, so that makes him more qualified according to the United States. Fair point. Yeah, unfortunate. So, but I feel like I can get up there and tell you a story about the movie I saw. The literally all he's doing is retelling Friday night. He is literally just for bait. I'm telling the movie to people as a way to say in the movie,

Starting point is 00:12:02 they didn't have faith or religion, but we have to have faith. That thing, that's the point of this. But it would be just like if I told you about the time I saw Inan Jones and Lasker say, and then like, at the end, I was like, and that's why I just like Dr. Jones and his father, the family is important.

Starting point is 00:12:17 Like that's the exact same thing. Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, you put that in perspective. It is exactly what he's doing. It's nonsense. Why do you think he said vampires are cool? Because I think he genuinely thinks that, I guess like, yeah, I think he's like vampires are cool.

Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah, I think just like if I were set up there and be like, I love archeologists. I think they're cool as shit. Tomb Raiding, not a fan of it, but when Dr. Jones does it, I'm behind him all the way. Like I'd be, that's what I'd be doing. I just can't imagine seeing this and being like, yeah, I'm going to vote for this. Send him to Washington, baby.

Starting point is 00:12:56 Yeah, that's, man, that's insanity. But I mean, I think it was, he's a just, you're right, he is a disingenuous pick, right? He was picked as sort of like a, we need like a black man to go against a black man in a, like, you know, I, it's a weird vibe. It's like the R-slash conspiracy vibe hardcore, but I just thought I'd bring it up

Starting point is 00:13:22 because it's kind of a weird thing. And I was wondering if I could get people talking about this somewhere. I mean, all you need to know at the end of the day, literally was Donald Trump like this guy. And so they got behind him. And now everyone is slowly turning on him. Yo, hey, hi, we're gonna be here. I am living for watching. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:42 Trump announcing his presidency he run yesterday was just the beginning of it all. And people trying to leave early, all I'm saying is, look, I have no prom, Democrat, Republican on care. Trump fan you and I are going to disagree for life. I don't, I will, like, we will never see eye to eye. I crave his downfall. So that was good. If you thought that was a good use of vampire analogy, I don't

Starting point is 00:14:06 know what to say. We can't talk. But there's something going on. Vampire connoisseur. There's a real conspiracy theory going on in Georgia right now. I don't know what it is. What are you? What are you? What are you trying to say, Alex? Because to me, I feel like you're trying to say this dude is a vampire or something. Whoa, no, no, I'm just saying. That guy is obviously not up for election for any legitimate reason. Here's a thing, I mean this, honestly, I think a lot of the time we sometimes put people

Starting point is 00:14:39 on a pedestal of like running for office and they what we think they should be. But at the end of the day, we are, I be. But at the end of the day, we are, I don't, I don't, hold on. At the end of the day, we are a republic. And a republic is you are represented by the people who you think are most similar to you. So all I'm saying is, the man must have a constituency.

Starting point is 00:14:58 And I am not saying there's a brightest in the world, but they definitely get what's going on. He may not speak to us, but somewhere out there, there's a constituency of people who are like, damn right, I want to be aware of this man knows what's up. And we probably ask if we think we asked that person or whatever, those people are to explain what he said to us. They could do it in a way that makes sense. I'm just saying, no, I think so.

Starting point is 00:15:20 I think it's just, I think it's just the reason I'm bringing it up here in, in Chiluminati is because to me, it seems clear that if this wasn't some sort of genuine, actual conspiracy by people in politics. What do you mean? What do you, I don't know what you mean by this. Like have you seen the movie The Producers?

Starting point is 00:15:40 Sure. Yeah, like there's like something going on there with that election other than that, that other than that, this is like a grassroots candidate that came up and got put into this position. No, he literally was chosen because one man said, I like that guy and because he specifically kissed Trump's ass and says things that he knows his base wants to hear. Right. Which is, which I'm saying is corrupt and not above board and not good.

Starting point is 00:16:08 And if you wanna see, I'm saying, if you wanna see what that shit looks like in real life, the closest thing that you're gonna get to, people in the government working against your interest for weird things. This guy rambling about vampires into a microphone and thinking he's gonna get elected, is it? This is it.

Starting point is 00:16:24 He may, he may win, dude. He may win. Think about that. There's a runoff in December. He may win. Yeah, think, think about that. That's what I'm saying. People elect people that represent them.

Starting point is 00:16:35 And I'm not gonna like crap on the people of Georgia, but it was almost a tie, y'all. So, you know what I'm saying, what I'm saying. Let's not even, let's not even get into the states that were like, maybe we should keep slavery around. Let's not even... I live in it. I live in one.

Starting point is 00:16:51 Let's not get into that. I'll see you guys later. Let's get into that. All right, then. Let's see what we got here. Yeah, that's it. Alex brought to the next room. I love this way possible.

Starting point is 00:17:00 I can't have gasoline into this room. I can't wait for Reddit to be like, I have thoughts. Bigfoot's real. We're gonna get reviews, reviews that are gonna be mad about our political opinions. I don't think anybody, if you're mad about my political opinions. The last two negative reviews are, because we say, we say fuck too much. You do, not me. I do say it a lot, it's true. It falls on my mouth accidentally. I know, I know what's going on I know what's up. I don't say nothing. All right anyway, we love you

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Starting point is 00:19:19 the like weird like, it's not like Elvis, dude, he's not. Oh, I've been fucked. He's like Elvis. Oh, I've been fucked by the ghost of Elvis. Oh, they're pretty cool. I'm not buying you. I'm gonna hire. Oh, maybe the bad guy. So we're doing this right after the ghost,

Starting point is 00:19:33 the sexual encounters episode. So today I'm bringing a ghost to mini-sode, not sexual encounters. So if you're listening in the future and you tried to forget that episode, we're back, baby. No, it's back, baby. Here we are.

Starting point is 00:19:44 On Argentina security camera, baby. No, it's back, baby. Here we are. On Argentina, security camera, hospital security camera, a security guard was caught interacting with what he later said was what he thought was a patient, guiding in them through, but in the video, he's sitting there speaking with nobody. Let's go ahead and I'll hook up the video to you all. Of course since it's like,

Starting point is 00:20:02 gotten up, it's hands on by like a YouTube channel is like spooky music thrown over it, but it's going to throw that in there. Okay. I'll throw. He's, he goes and where is he? So he walks in almost right away. You because he sees the automatic doors open. Yep. He's seeing him walk over. He's like somebody's there. He's open to security thing. He's asking. Yeah. Yeah. He's like talking's there, he's opens the security thing, he's asking questions. Yep. Yeah, he's like talking to him, marking things on a board, on a clipboard that he's holding. Open is the thing. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like he's asking quite, yeah, he's given directions now.

Starting point is 00:20:36 He's pointing out and he looks like he was like listening to them speak, pointed out, closed up the little security band. Yeah, this is why. And he points off and then he walks away. That's it. Yeah. He sits back down at his desk and, oh, he puts his clipboard back down and he walks down the hallway, I guess. I'm trying to see you like, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:56 Wait, he's got wheelchair now. He went over, he like got called over to another camera. No, yeah, he was, he looks like he just offered them a wheelchair. And they said, no, as we pointed down the hallway, put the wheelchair back and... God, how adopin' it have been if the wheelchair just went up by itself. Right, and that's it, that's it right there. That's the whole video, Jesse.

Starting point is 00:21:14 Did you see the whole thing? Have you gone through it yet? Yeah, I'm more obsessed with the whole... Like, the rest, most of the video, most of the video, I would say, if you did not include the first, I don't know, four seconds. I would be like, oh, this is just a guy practice talking or practice like, no, but the beginning of it is literally sitting at the desk and then ding ding door opens like one of those sliding doors and opens. He gets a walkie. He has like great body language. Like he does. Yeah,

Starting point is 00:21:40 he's like, you're comfortable. You walks up to it. Yep. Opened up the thing like you coming in. Here's the thing. Also, he could just be like, oh, it's the ghost again. I got a lot of men. Like I don't know. It's so weird. Uh, yeah. So this all happened around three in the morning, he says.

Starting point is 00:21:54 And this took place at the Finoshiecto Sanatorium in the city of Buenos Aires. And the guard says that he was at the hospital's front desk at 3 a.m. when an elderly woman entered through the automatic doors and explained that she had left something behind in her room. He subsequently took down her information and directed it into the building to retrieve the forgotten item. When the woman did not return a few hours later, he called the floor where she was headed and received a stunning response. The security guard was informed that no such woman had visited the floor that night, which understandably peaked his curiosity. Going back to his paperwork from where when she entered the building, he told them the name of the woman and that she had

Starting point is 00:22:29 stayed in room 915. And what was likely a very earth-shattering experience for the man, the staff on the floor told him that person was a patient who had died three hours before that he encountered her in the front lobby. Well, this would normally be a fantastic tale, where the of an even campfire, what makes the guards account. Particularly compelling is that his exchange with the woman was actually filmed by the hospital security cameras. So that's the backstory. Some woman that's like maybe died three hours ago and doesn't even know she's necessarily dead comes on through and directs her to where she was and she never came back.

Starting point is 00:23:04 Absolutely insane. Absolutely insane. I love it. This is very good if it's fake. If it's fake, acting is phenomenal. Yeah. Everything about this is like maybe one of the best ghost videos I've seen modern day. Like, one of the hundred.

Starting point is 00:23:16 In the past five years at least, this is probably like one of the best because it's not, it's nothing crazy happening here. The only thing that moves on its own is the automatic doors. Everything else is him doing his job more or less. It's very, very cool and very bizarre. Yeah. It, that's my favorite type of like ghost evidence to something like that where it's like, I'm surprised this isn't, this will make it, I'm chill, top five, dukes, nuke, nuke,

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Starting point is 00:23:55 My thoughts are I really love this. This is like the most convincing, like that I've seen of a cagost video, simple because it's very notchalant. It's very like guy is very clearly doing his job and doesn't think anything of what's happening. He only calls down hours after the lady hasn't come back. Doesn't feel cinematic or phony.

Starting point is 00:24:14 None at all, yeah, yeah. What do you, Jesse, you kind of stay quiet? How do you feel about the video? I think it's fascinating. I have no idea what any of it means, obviously. Yeah, obviously. Like I said, if the first four or so seconds weren't there, this could easily just be seen as a guy.

Starting point is 00:24:29 Like I could say, oh, this is a guy doing a bit. Like he psyched himself up or he's practicing it whatever. For sure. The door opens, the man reacts to the door opening and like a whole thing ensues. So either this is an elaborate hoax or it's something totally crazy, which either way I'm here for.

Starting point is 00:24:45 So like, if this is a hoax, I'll applaud you. Great job. Like that's all, like that's all, that's all takes to something simple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, genius idea. All right, well, that's it. I'll hand it off to either you gentlemen, whoever wants to take it, take it away.

Starting point is 00:25:00 I got more, I got more ghost. More ghosts. Yeah, so shout out to Paul Seaburn. He's a guy who writes articles at Mysterious Universe. Shout out to this person because he used a headline for a collection of stories on the same topic. Haunted doll week. They're moving. They're falling and they're breaking out of displays. We love to see it. All right. How to dull week. Yeah, it's all to dull week at mysterious diverse.com. So we gave us three, three separate stories.

Starting point is 00:25:29 I have evidence for each one of them so we can look at it. So the first one is the same type of raggedy and dull as Annabelle, the like one's doll. They're real Annabelle, not the movie Annabelle. Yeah. This, this one though, it's in Yorkshire. It's in the collection of, what is it? Lizzie and Lindsey Steer. Okay.

Starting point is 00:25:55 They run the Museum of Haunted Objects out of their house. And at this place, they have this doll. And here's a quote, from based on this footage. I'll send you the footage and then I'll read the quote. So here is the footage so you guys can watch it for yourselves. And the quote is she shouldn't have fallen legs first because her head is heavier than her legs. It looks as though she's sort of twisting her legs to come out first stepping out.

Starting point is 00:26:23 It wasn't a natural way to fall. It was very, very bizarre. That's what she said to the mirror. I'm watching the video. Yeah. Apparently this wasn't a big deal for them because it's something that happens all the time so they just picked them up and put them back.

Starting point is 00:26:37 But the footage is there, you can see it. Yeah, yeah, I'm going back, I'm going back. I mean, okay, okay. Uh, uh. It looks okay. I don't know, man. This is, this is like, it looks like it just fell forward. Right. The head hit the glass and it wasn't shut all the way, which may have been done on purpose.

Starting point is 00:26:55 And then it just kind of falls out of the glass. I don't necessarily think this is like weird. I think the head opens the glass enough for the leg to fall out. Like watch the head, hit the glass, push it, then the leg topples out, and that's like the weight in the momentum carries it all the rest of the way. Simultaneously though, if you were a toy story and you were made of what this was made of, your head might be the best way to push open the glass so that you could step down off the couch.

Starting point is 00:27:19 But the stories of Annabelle and the law for standing in the hallway watching people. No, this is a different Annabelle. This is a different, this is the same type of adult. Okay, okay, got you. Not the same version. This is a doll called Annabelle, but it's not that doll called Annabelle. Okay.

Starting point is 00:27:34 Apparently some other things have been happening in the week since that happened. Things have been getting really serious. She said, we're used to dealing with this kind of thing. It's getting more and more intense. It's building up energy big time.. It's getting more and more intense. It's building up energy big time The museum is getting more and more dangerous and things are getting physical So it's getting wild over there. She said something grabbed her neck squeezed it pretty hard. So she's worried

Starting point is 00:27:56 She says she's worried that she might have to call a demonologist if it gets wild But that's a different story because this other guy is definitely called a demonologist more than once. Number two, Matt is his favorite guy in the paranormal. He is at Vegas. Zach Began owns the haunted museum in Las Vegas. Yes, he does. And he has these dolls and he keeps them under 24 hours security watch and he's all very serious and he takes tour groups through the room.

Starting point is 00:28:22 And this, this doll, I don't know if we have the name of this doll, but this one also falls off the shelf, except according to Zach Begins, what's creepier? He says it rolls over without anyone touching it after a few moments on the ground. So that's how he sort of justifies the fact that it's not just that doll falling off a shelf from somebody's stomping hard. So I have some TMG TMG TMZ footage of this actually a couple clips from this page if you can get them to load TMZ as a fucking terrible video player. But that top one has the the doll falling and there's like a couple of other things that happen.

Starting point is 00:29:07 Um, but this one's pretty. It's got to watch this. This is an ad for champagne. This one's pretty standard, I would say, but yeah, it's true. The doll does kind of like move a little bit more after it feels like maybe it should be moving, but I don't know if it's enough to say definitively that it looks paranormal to me. You guys can tell me what you think.

Starting point is 00:29:27 There's also seems to be some kind of weird, like, artifacting on the footage that's not doing in any favors. So I don't know, but you guys tell me. This little, like, little gentleman doll that falls off the shelf. Yep, that's the one. It just, yeah, it just kind of falls over. It's not all of these. This is the problem.

Starting point is 00:29:41 It's like, they all look like the weight of the head has been a little very like slowly munching and then when they fall, it's always the head that goes first. Watch, it's the same thing. And the weight takes it over and it hits the ground. Well, if you scroll down a little longer, there's another clip of a guy where I believe is in the museum, it might be Zach himself taking pictures of like, do they stop it? This one is a step. Yeah, it's a doll that says stop it when he gets near its case.

Starting point is 00:30:10 So you can, you can, you can take a look at that one too and tell me what you think. I don't know. It looks all right to me. Yeah, this is Zach, I think. Yeah. It just looks like a typical clip of somebody getting scared of something.

Starting point is 00:30:25 I don't know. I'm listening right now. Yeah. Wait, wait. No, no. Yeah, okay, okay. At 26 seconds, go to, you can just replay it a couple times because he goes, what? Like, but you can hear a little like female voice or something saying something and he responds to it.

Starting point is 00:30:46 And it sounds like stop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop it. Okay, yeah, I mean, I don't know. It doesn't really sound like stop it to me, like a huge amount, but it doesn't not sound like stop it. But what about EVPs where it's like clearly a two-syllable whatever. Yeah, I can't be like super sure because I already was looking for a stop-it

Starting point is 00:31:07 when I watched the video the first time. So I don't know, but, you know. And that's it. Interesting. That one's more interesting to me. The EVP. Yeah, the EVP's way more interesting than a doll falling over, honestly. I like that a little bit better.

Starting point is 00:31:22 It's finally able to hear the clip again. Yeah, I heard it. Stop it. Okay, and then the last one, this one's pretty good. Okay, so the last one is, here's a quote, I've never seen anything like it. Without a doubt, it is the most haunted item in the UK. A lot of people have experienced it.

Starting point is 00:31:39 It is highly active and has never dipped in it activity since gaining its attachment. Quote unquote. So this is a doll that was recorded by Danny Moss, a couple of years ago, who is a paranormal investigator using an s box ghost scanner. He believes this doll's name is Grace, and it was possessed by the spirit of a witch from the 1600s. He keeps the doll in a box at Tatten Old Hall, which is in Cheshire in Tatten Park. And it's, I think maybe it's about to move to the old King's Head and Chester or it has already been moved there. But at the time, we're looking at the Tatten Old Hall version on this Twitter post. And you can hear the ghosts say some pretty crazy stuff to him. It's about a minute. Give this a look. Tell me what you guys think. Kind of interesting. And then I'll give you

Starting point is 00:32:34 a little bit of follow up info. And then you tell me what you guys think. All right, they're shouting at the doll saying, do you want me to release you? Okay, I don't know if that was burn homie. Let me try and listen. This sounds like a tech glitch. It's a spirit box. So it's not EVP. It's a positive. Okay, for those who know what spirit boxes are, they're manually modified radios that consistently just cycle through all the available FMAM stations and the ghosts is supposed to be able to harness the energy and pull words or put words together in the static and through radio stations to respond to your shit. Yeah, so yeah, listen to 90% of it is just static.

Starting point is 00:33:15 They entirely at them. Yeah, it's yelling like, what do you want to burn? And here's the thing, the beginning, the first thing they said they heard burn, I didn't hear that at all. Yeah, I heard the burn pretty good. It's like, I didn't hear that at all. I did hear the, you're eyes, but it sounds like if I was going to pretend to be a demon child, it doesn't sound like a voice he would make. You're eyes. It sounds exactly like that. That's exactly how it sounds. It's, uh, I mean, it's a thing. Is this a TV show? Uh, no, this is an investigator who does this.

Starting point is 00:33:46 And this doll has also been recorded saying from other people that wanted to reap their eyes or take their eyes. And also before this, that people at the, at the place they had it where they were saying that it might even be the guy. I think he might run the, whatever he might own the object. I'm not sure. But he's saying that a couple of years ago, they kept your voice saying, reap your eyes. And people who see this doll oftentimes get burning sensations in their eyes. And they had never really thought anything about that

Starting point is 00:34:15 until this moment when it said that it wanted to burn your eyes. So there you go. They think it gained its attachment in Ruthen. And over the last few months, we have recorded some good evidence, including knocking sounds in the same voice several times, which has been captured and heard in real time. We've had knocking sounds in a voice saying, release me. There's a couple of other clips if you follow this hashtag of the ghost, the Grace doll or whatever on Twitter that you can see of some other things that it said.

Starting point is 00:34:43 This is a TV show. It's on Amazon. Amazon was that of some other things that it said. This is a TV show, it's on Amazon. Amazon is that right? Oh, there you go. Well, there you go. But, oh, the haunted hunts is what it's called. Yeah, I think. So check it out and that's doll week.

Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah, we like it. Guessy, wrap us up. What are you gonna end this little mini-soda? All right, well, we're not gonna talk about ghosts anymore. I'm gonna ask you a simple question. Guys, what's your favorite ice cream flavor? Cookie Dumbledore. Yeah, like, like, something rum-raising-y,

Starting point is 00:35:15 maybe something with a nut cluster in there. Great, yeah. Whose tracks is also up there? You know, like, why do you like it? I like the taste. I don't know. Yeah, I just like, I like the difference, like the cookie dough adds.

Starting point is 00:35:28 I like having something to crunch in my mouth. Sure, I like it. I like it. The cookie dough is like a nice, sweet, like little treat. So if you love those flavors, why do you enjoy other flavors sometimes? Oh, let me guess, it's gonna have the same kind of receptors in your brain that I'll go off over the same shit.

Starting point is 00:35:42 Oh, I don't know, I'm just asking you. I don't know. I don't know when you change. I will say this. I don't know why, brain that I'll go off over the same shit. Oh, I don't know, I'm just asking you. I don't know. When you change, I will say this. I don't know why, but as I've gotten older, my sweet tooth has gone way down. Like I am not nearly ravenous for ice cream and sweets and surely as much as I once was. Okay, it's different flavors from different places,

Starting point is 00:35:58 but I usually do get the same flavor. Yeah, I most always go cookie, though. That brings up my next question then. Alex, you mentioned different flavors from different places, right? So, you know, let's say there's two places and they're equidistant and equidelicious and they, why do you choose one over the other? Not all cookie dough is made the same.

Starting point is 00:36:16 Well, like, like a walk to one place versus a walk to the other place. It could be different, it could be different vibes. Sometimes I like the decoration of one more than the other and it'll make me feel like I want to be in a different vibe or, you know, whatever. Sure, to be well. So fickle. The reason I bring this up is earlier this month,

Starting point is 00:36:36 there was a very big article, I'm obviously not gonna go through the whole thing, but a very big article posted over on Vice. And they were saying that these questions that we can ask and be philosophical about like deep dive in our own thoughts of why we do stuff, right? Even when it comes down to like a choice of ice cream, why we think about that, but here's the thing,

Starting point is 00:36:57 we don't think about it every day. You know, we can, we can take the time to think about it, but we don't think about it every day why we make the choices we do. Right. Here's the real question. Why does AI make the choices it does? And my guess is that if it's pulling from the internet everywhere online, it's not like the thing.

Starting point is 00:37:19 No, it's the thing. It's not, there's no such like, that's's not there is no like giant mega brain yet. We're talking about close system AI black boxes that are like inputs and outputs and just be choosing a flavor at random then And that's the question scientists are sitting here trying to figure out why AI make the choices they make. And as they get more and more intricate and detailed and you know, jacked into the internet, there's always really, they're like, what explains what an output is for an AI? Like how can we input some information?

Starting point is 00:37:56 And then the AI chooses what to give us. Why is it making that choice? Clearly, we've told it to do things, right? But a great example, go ahead and make today's screen thing. One of the scientists says, if I gave a BlackBox AI model data about every single ice cream flavor and a demographic data about economic, social,

Starting point is 00:38:17 and lifestyle factors for millions of people, it could probably guess what your favorite ice cream flavor is based on all the information I gave. Yeah information within a range, yeah, for sure. Right. And that's, you know, that's the way AI works. But now the more it's starting, you start giving the information, the more it starts thinking for itself, right, the answers of what it's coming up with are now more elusive to why it shows that, right?

Starting point is 00:38:44 We understand. I asked you a question. I said, what do you like? And you gave me an answer about what you liked because it was, it was easy. And that's what an AI does is it gives an answer. And now for the first time scientists are trying to figure out, okay, why did it give us that answer? What about this thing?

Starting point is 00:38:59 It's getting harder to distinguish it from actual human thoughts. Yes, I mean, I'm obviously asking a question from an absolutely ignorant spot. But like, is it programmed to not answer? Or does it have to give an answer? Therefore, it might be random because it has no choice but to answer your question. I mean, it usually does pretty good, though, is the thing.

Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah, sure, sure, but it can be believable. But like, if it doesn't truly have a favorite because it's an AI, and but you answer, ask it a question that it has but you answer, ask it a question that it has no context to, does it have the program capability to say, I don't know? And I think that's a fascinating idea

Starting point is 00:39:32 because they don't know, right? Like they don't know what happened if an AI said, I don't know. Most of the time, and I don't know would be like an error. Yeah, my friend who Siri says that shit all the time when she can't get to my my music library. My series like just go to Google.

Starting point is 00:39:49 What's your favorite ice cream? My preferences are constantly changing. And her preferences are constantly changing as well. Yeah, what a, that's a very good program. Creepy answer. Yeah, that's a good program to answer. Creepy answer. I'll say that. And program to answer. There's a creepy answer. I'll say that.

Starting point is 00:40:06 And so they're saying, you know, like, we need to, before we get to an era of AI being, you know, like, in your home as a maid, right? Like, oh, Mr. J, I'm doing that dish. Like, before we get a Rosie, or before we have AI running things, or we put an AI pilot in a plane of some sort, we need to understand and grow accustomed to understanding why AI answers the way it does. And if we can tell if those answers are being manipulated or just wrong, can we answer with science? Why humans choose what they choose?

Starting point is 00:40:45 I like cookie dough, but say Francesca hates cookie dough. They're saying, they're probably hint at, but it's not. Yeah, they're saying. When they input all the data into, you know, about ice cream, they input the economic and social and like all the different things that then it would guess based on like, where you grew up and like, oh, originally, what's the favorite ice cream there?

Starting point is 00:41:04 Like that kind of thing. Or for like a white 35 year old, what is their usual? You're saying like when there's not specific math for it, like how the fuck do they make the decision? Exactly. Yeah, they're like, okay, if we don't give them the data and we ask them a question and the AI comes back to the answer, how the hell did it get the answer?

Starting point is 00:41:22 Like that's the question they're asking. That's the learning. That's the real ghost in the machine right there. Yeah, that's the question of like, what is AI at this point? Is it possible to actually make AI is the real question? I think it's just a matter of at this point. I think it'll be a perception. I think we'll realize we can make AI when we've accidentally made AI.

Starting point is 00:41:35 When we just decide that our definition for intelligence intersects with what we are in the app. I think we're going to have issues like if this comes to pass, which are I'm not saying I'm confident, but I think that's the most important thing is that we're going to have to do accidentally made AI. When we decide that our definition for intelligence intersects with what we are. I think we're gonna have issues like if this comes to pass which I'm not saying I'm confident but I think it's within well within the realm of possibility that we truly create AI one day. It's simply gonna create another fucking social fight of like do we treat them as objects or do we treat them as sentient.

Starting point is 00:41:59 Well, and this also comes back to the idea that in the article they talk about how, and I think this relates to just real life stuff. When someone with authority tells you something, a lot of times you believe it, even if it's bullshit. And the, and the article they're saying, like, a AI, we as a society would be like, oh, AI is smart. They got access to the internet. And we simply putting our trust in a system because we're told it's smart. Yeah, we don't answer, like we don't ask any questions. And we do that our trust in a system because we're told it's smart.

Starting point is 00:42:25 We don't ask any questions, and we do that now with humans. Human will tell us something, and we do not follow up at all. We're like, that sounds real. Instead of like, where'd you get the information? How do you have, like, we don't do that already. So the fact that like, I have one of those conversations with somebody I think is giving and just asking where'd you learn that information. Give me the numbers and they can.

Starting point is 00:42:43 And then they also say in the article that even if you're like, well, I don't care about that. If you're on a business, you're in business. In any way, you should because if you are working with AI in the future and you don't understand how AI calculates an output, there is a potential risk for your business. Because you can't explain. You can't explain what the hell just happened there.

Starting point is 00:43:03 And so there's all these things. Again, this article is very long, super in-depth. Can't explain. You can't explain what the hell just happened there. And so there's all these things. Again, this article is very long, super in death. It's literally like, amazing. It's like it's immediately Irohbot. Yeah. It's about the nature of robotic thought. Then you're like, that's the, that's the problem.

Starting point is 00:43:19 It's a question now we have to, which fascinating is no longer a question. It's no longer a movie question. It is a right now in our life. Science is progressing to a point where we have to, which fascinating is no longer a movie question. It is a right now in our life, science is progressing to a point where we have to start asking those questions and that is fucking cool, but also scary. Because we may live to see.

Starting point is 00:43:34 We can't even figure out when a human is alone. That's what I'm saying. We may live yet to see AI show up and the ramifications of that. But it's also about morality and ethics and what we as a society believe, because we can clone right now. We can go make a house clone.

Starting point is 00:43:50 We just don't do it that we know of. But scientists around the world agreed like after we were cloning Dolly and it's like, we've made all sorts of clones of things. And we're just like, we're not gonna make human clones because we think that's unethical. But maybe they have already.

Starting point is 00:44:04 There could be a clone out there and we just don't know. I like me. I feel like there is. I like that. You know, I wouldn't be statistically is for some reason. It's gonna be interesting because, you know, a lot of almost all religions are not gonna see machines as with a soul, right?

Starting point is 00:44:18 Cause like, when you- Does a clone have a soul? Right. That's a very good idea. Like, these are the reasons. These are the reasons people get really messed up about this stuff because what is, you know, again, take the time, go watch that Star Trek episode where data is on trial for having

Starting point is 00:44:31 a soul or not. Yes. It sounds like a mushroom man. Yeah, a mushroom man. The other thing for me personally, like if, for me, at the minute, they even have a hint of self recognition, I feel like I need to,, for me, I treat them as like an actual, like, not necessarily like a living being per se, but something I have to respect and treat like,

Starting point is 00:44:52 somebody that has its own will, its own will, it doesn't die. What is it does it look like it has self recognition? Because that you can fake like video games. Sure, yeah, a good word AI program that's programmed to chat is gonna be very realistic feeling. If you played Detroit become human, when you load into the game, there is a female character there who's like the title screen girl and the more you play through the game, the more she interacts with you

Starting point is 00:45:16 and the choices you make in game on the title screen you log back in. She's like, I don't know if you should have done that. Like it's pretty amazing. Dude, just, and honestly, play Soma. It's a good horror game. For that similar idea. There was that scientist that started talking to this AI and was getting freaked out to the AI. Yeah, I was fully online.

Starting point is 00:45:37 And it's really just a question. At some point, you're just gonna have to decide where the line is. There's no answer to the question of, is it, but the programming or is it a genuine thought? There's no way to quantify that. That's the thing that's the problem is that it's not really a question of, like, is conscious thought capable, like possible in a computer?

Starting point is 00:46:00 We can't answer that because we don't know where conscious thought comes from. That's what I mean. Like, we just have to decide whether what the computers are are already doing is conscious thought. Exactly. Like in the past, I think it's like two years or something. I've read articles that that theorize we get our conscious thought directed by our gut biome and it's our desires and needs of like whatever our gut needs is what makes us make decisions. I've seen like, you know, consciousness comes from some active part of the brain that we don't understand or a messhing of all the things in the brain

Starting point is 00:46:27 that caught talk to each other. It's like, we don't know. We have no idea where consciousness comes from. We don't know where life comes from. It's like, we just don't know what life comes from. Well, there's what's even crazier, speaking of consciousness. This is, man, I love the fact that I've so many just like weird articles saved for moments like this.

Starting point is 00:46:42 Earlier this month as well, speaking of conscious thought, NPR did an article about bumblebees. And the bumblebees, scientists watch them play. Like the bumblebees, they watch the bumblebees like have a good time and like joke with each other and like do goofs and shit. And they're like, all right, question.

Starting point is 00:47:03 If bumblebees can play, does that mean they understand happiness and feelings? Yeah, as a study, once they do that, it's like, yeah, bumblebees, bumblebees, not like dogs or, you know, bumblebees. Little insect bumblebees. Literally are just like, out there having a good time sometimes.

Starting point is 00:47:21 They're like having fun with their friends. They have like peer groups almost. That's just crazy, dude. Well, it reminds me of when we talked about the jumping spider that was seen studied and maybe dreaming with a twitching and dangling remember when we looked at them in the mini-sode. And honestly, just tangential evidence is I own

Starting point is 00:47:37 I own a pet spider, a jumping spider for like a year and a half. They usually last a couple of years or so. Yeah. That guy utterly like changed his personality the the more I had him and hung around. He'd go from scared to hiding to when I came in with water. He'd come out of his nest and he'd watch. And he'd just like, there's little things up and he'd look at me and then he'd look at the water.

Starting point is 00:47:58 And then when the water was done, I'd pull out, he'd go drink the water. When I opened the cage, he would come out and watch me cleaning his cage and like fascinated and he went from really scared of me to being totally fine crawling on my finger and looking at me and just kind of hanging out. And that was cool. Like I've never, I've never got attached to an insect before and the jumping spider was the first one

Starting point is 00:48:18 where I was like, but the question is, something going on in there. Like what is going on? How much of that work is you and how much of that work is the spider? You know what I mean? Like sure. Yeah, that's a question.

Starting point is 00:48:27 It's very simple. Obviously, it's a very simple creature. Like it probably doesn't have a whole lot of complex that thought happening, but there's, if it's able to dream too, there's got to be something going on in that brain. I'm sure it's something, but that's the same thing with the AI.

Starting point is 00:48:39 It's like, yeah, yeah. We just have to rip the bandit off and decide. It's going to be probably a legal thing because if it's about whether or not it's a sentient being, that has ramifications. I mean, the biggest problem with everything, when we talk about all the stuff like AI and cool future tech things,

Starting point is 00:48:59 the interesting thing about it is most of it is science that at a basic level we can do already. We just don't pull the trigger on because, like flying cars. There's no regulation. You couldn't regulate flying cars. Like how would you, like, you know, for years, they had electric vehicles in the 60s. And they were like, well, we can't,

Starting point is 00:49:19 they infrastructure, we can. And so they didn't do it for a long time. Like that is- That is- That's the documentary, man, yeah. And so these didn't do it for a long time. Like that is- That is- That's the documentary, man, yeah. It's there. And so I absolutely believe that when it dudes,

Starting point is 00:49:28 like I talk to an AI in a time, I think probably in some lab somewhere, they definitely gotta go in. I would believe that. I would believe that too. I would. I have to just decide. Yeah, it's like, there's no-

Starting point is 00:49:38 Like that guy who fed the AI his invisible friend, his story in the microwave, tried to kill him, like that's another one of those weird fucking stories. It's like, what? Yeah. Yeah. And then why did it decide like that AI? Sorry, I was just on it.

Starting point is 00:49:51 Like why did that microwave AI make the decision to be angry and murder him and call this against friend again? How does an AI know what anger is? Like what is that emotion? Those are all, I mean, that's some real-ass questions. Yeah, I have answers or's some real-ass questions. Yeah, I have answers or they may be like, are there the sins in the sins of some level cognizant in a lot of question? Our comic book character is conscious. Who knows?

Starting point is 00:50:14 Who knows? Who knows? Maybe we are just again, maybe we're in a situation between the pages, you know what I mean? What happened between the, the cells of a comic? Don't get, don't get philosophical, because then you get to the point where it's like are people like Socrates more alive than those who have died and no one remembers their name, right? Then suddenly you're like in the you're the deep end my friends. Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:50:37 I don't know. And then you can go to the question when it comes to AI too, like when it comes to us, are we not? Are we just programs working on a, basically a flesh computer? 100%. We are, we need electricity. Our electricity is keeping our brain going.

Starting point is 00:50:50 We are consistently over low electrical energy running in our bodies. Let me just, let me just, let me just, let me just say this again, for everyone in the world, when you play a video game and you turn on the lamp in the video game,

Starting point is 00:51:04 it's using real electricity. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. I got to take it to aliens slightly. When we're running into aliens or these alien experiences are happening, our brains being presented with a program that's written for a different kind of flesh computer to interpret and we're doing like a dirty version of what we're trying to make. Just do. But this, I mean, this all goes back to the, I'm sure if I went to coast to coast, am right now, I bet I would say 10 to 12 articles that are like, are we in a simulation? Yeah, I'm sure. And I get it.

Starting point is 00:51:36 Here's the thing. Maybe outrageous. Yeah, not out of the realm of possibility, which is, but this that's, I mean, that almost gives you the answer. If we are, then consciousness is nothing more than program real self realization. Unless we're real. Well, then yeah. But the only person who's real is yourself because everything else is interpreted by everybody else could be a figment of your own imagination.

Starting point is 00:52:02 You could be, for some reason, my fantasy world was, and everything is sensory. So you don't necessarily, I could be touching my desk right now, or I could be touching GlorCar, the third layer. You could have fucking tentacles. Also, if I may, there's a fricking, there's a time delay between you doing something in your brain registering if I have about two milliseconds. So when you touch something, you're technically not feeling it.

Starting point is 00:52:21 You're touching the past, bro. You're touching it. Looking at the past, everything you're taking in. I'm not listening to you. You're technically just feeling it. You're touching the past, bro. You're touching it. You're looking at the past. Everything you're taking into your ear. It's technically just a millisecond watching a sick fine. Yeah. All right, let's get out of here. Let's get out of here.

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Starting point is 00:55:05 Welcome back. What the hell? This is the show that you pay the big bucks for. The mini-sode. Extra big, the cherry on the top. $15 for this shit. Yeah, welcome to the mini-sode. I've had a very long episode on the Majestic 12 in Aliens.

Starting point is 00:55:21 I don't have anything super exciting for the mini-sode, but Alex, there was something that like translates perfectly. So we're going to have it, you know, we might as well let this natural segue happen. I did not even know. I did not even know what you were going to say at the beginning of the episode.

Starting point is 00:55:36 However, I pulled an article from Collider from last week that is called 10 Best UFO movies of all time. According to the movie social media app letter box, do you know that app? Sure, I'm aware of it because they do stuff like this all the time. I've never seen anyone actually use it. I track what movies I've seen in it and I rate them on a number scale because I'm an asshole, but I don't really write reviews.

Starting point is 00:56:04 But it's basically supposed to be like Yelp for movies, but you have like friends. I don't know if you can have friends on Yelp. I don't think that if you have friends on Yelp that you're okay. So I'm not going to. Yeah, I would actually like worry about you if you had friends on Yelp. Shout out to all the people on the Reddit that have friends on Yelp. They're going to come us. But basically, I have 10 movies here that are the 10 best UFO movies ever, according to Letterbox, according to the users of Letterbox. And I wanted to run each movie past Mathis, yeah, to see how much he knows about it and how much he's heard about it, because I assume that I have seen probably all of these movies.

Starting point is 00:56:40 I don't know what's on this list yet. I bet you I've seen them all. And I'm sure Jetsi's seen most of them as well. So we're gonna see. But number 10 is a movie from 2013, starring Scarlett Johansson. It's called Under the Skin. I've seen this movie. Never heard of it, never seen it.

Starting point is 00:56:57 No, I don't know this film. This is a weird movie. This is like a weird sort of artsy movie. And she like is like a weird, maybe like shape shifting, she like, is like a weird, maybe like, shape-shifting body-snatching alien that she like, seduces men with her body. I like to like, isn't that specimen or whatever that movie is?

Starting point is 00:57:15 It's kind of like that, but this one's kind of like, this is a A24 version. It's like a A24 movie, so it's like a classy artsy alien. So like, step monster, the movie we're gonna be watching on Rotten Popcorn. Yeah, it's exactly like step monster. So you never heard, neither have you ever heard of on to this game.

Starting point is 00:57:30 No, I never heard of this. Worth a watch. I'd say this movie on the Alex scale gets like a seven out of 10. Wow, okay. Pretty good. Yeah, the breakdown of it seems interesting. A sparse story focusing on an alien perspective

Starting point is 00:57:41 of the human world. And she's kind of like stocking humans and eating them or what? Cool. Okay, I'm in. I'm definitely adding this in my list. This is up my alley. Yeah, pretty cool.

Starting point is 00:57:50 Number nine on the list, this is a movie I bet you maybe all of us have seen. It's called Sines. Yeah, 2002. But in that Shyamalan. Maybe my favorite movie, that Shyamalan that I enjoyed actually.

Starting point is 00:58:03 It's why you should leave water everywhere all the time completely. Yeah, yeah. You have to see. We don't talk about the weird logic that the aliens are invading a planet of 70% of water, but you know, hey, it is what it is.

Starting point is 00:58:15 Maybe salt water doesn't work. I don't know. But without, I mean, here's what I'll say. This is the coolest movie about aliens that I've seen. What, okay. I've not seen. Nope. In case anybody wants to fight me or whatever, I have not seen really about aliens. So I mean, like, I mean, it is, and it isn't. Well, but neither signs really like kind of, I mean, you're right.

Starting point is 00:58:35 You're right. I think close encounters are the third kind of my favorite alien movie I've seen. And in the math, it says seen like five movies. So that's, that's true. That's pretty big. Right. No, but signs is really good. Yes, it is. Really a fucking funny movie where a guy eats pancakes. Funny is seen where a man needs pancakes that I've ever seen in my life. Then when he's watching the TV, it's when they all make their like last meal together

Starting point is 00:58:59 and everybody's sitting there and they're like sad and he's like pissed off that they're not trying to enjoy it. And he starts eating everybody's food and then they all start hugging that's right. Yeah, one of the funniest scenes out of context of any movie I've ever seen I give signs like a nine out of 10 on the Alex skill. That's a great movie Next movie this movie is from 1968. I know that me and Jesse have definitely seen this movie 2001 space Odyssey. But I know a lot about it. I've seen so many videos.

Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, I don't even know how I would explain a film like this to anyone. I've seen so many videos breaking the movie down that I feel like I've seen it. So I have never made the effort to see it. On the one hand, there's special effects on that fucking movie is impressive as hell. On the one hand, it's about a computer that comes to life

Starting point is 00:59:46 or a computer that is alive and is making some decisions separate from humans. But it's really just one element of a larger, just sort of like impressionistic based story about symbols regarding man's journey into infinity, basically. Pretty much. Yeah. I give it like a nine, 10 out of 10.

Starting point is 01:00:08 I'm gonna say it's like one of the best. I'm gonna say it's one of the best movies ever made. I don't watch watch watch this movie very much, but it's just it's too important. It's too it's too iconic. I'm gonna say it's important, but also I think pretty boring. Yeah, I mean, look, if you're like in the right zone,

Starting point is 01:00:27 it's amazing, but it is, I don't think it's a beautiful film, super sing, but after you've seen it once and the like visual stimuli has worn off, it's kind of a boring film. I'll even, you know what, I'll go see the theater anytime. Like on like 70 mail or something like that, I'll go see it. Sure, that's an 70 Mill or something like that, I'll go see it. Sure, that's an experience, sorry.

Starting point is 01:00:46 Like, yeah, I can see that. Next movie, 1997, Men in Black. Yep. I'm sure we've all seen this. Yeah. All of them, baby. This movie is like a hard seven out of 10. One of the greatest nineties comedies ever made. I'll be honest, I think nostalgia for me raises a two and eight.

Starting point is 01:01:05 Basically, because it was a very big movie for me. The theme song raises it to a tan out of tan. Yeah, the theme, definitely the best theme song on this. A main blank. I like the thing in aliens. Well, there's only one other movie on this list that gives the theme song a run for the money. But I will say, men in black is the closest to majestic 12 of any of these movies. Sure about it. Yeah, you're right. In that humans have

Starting point is 01:01:29 made an agreement with with the aliens and there's like a agency or a group of people in place that are mysterious that are arming this, but in this movie, it's more like, I don't know, immigration. Immigration services, I don't know, immigration, immigration services, I guess. Nothing like the men and black of the real world, which may or may not be human. Next one, the big one, probably the most, like the movie you think of in the UFOs. 1996, the first blockbuster of the 90s

Starting point is 01:02:02 of the modern era Independence Day. I just, first blockbuster of the 90s of the modern era Independence Day. Oh, yes, I absolutely say more times than I even know. Yeah, I didn't know that there were days in the summer when you didn't have this movie on cable. I was how it really felt. That's exactly how it felt. This movie was you can't even understand how big this movie was if you weren't there. You can't believe that a movie was this big. It wasn't like Star Wars big where like everybody was into it. I think the closest thing we've had to it since was Avatar where it's like nobody's

Starting point is 01:02:35 really into the movie, but everybody has to see this fucking thing that everybody's talking about. I'm going to let you know how big of a hype train this movie was when it first came out for those of you two younger to remember. My friends and I saw this movie where the theater had timed it. So July 4th in the movie was July 4th in the real day when it when it says July 4th. Yes, yes. It was here. We're looking at our watches as it happened. That was like, the people were excited for that moment. We were like, y'all in the theater was wild.

Starting point is 01:03:09 Yeah. Independence Day is not a good movie, but it is a great movie. Like, it's not a, like, there's not a good screenplay there. There's not a good story here, but in another way, it's like the most essential movie of the 90s. It simply shouldn't work. Yet every part of that movie is so charming. You're just like, I love all of this.

Starting point is 01:03:30 It is absolutely so dumb, but it is so great. Next one, this one is like tight, but also this one's not about the mystery of aliens. This is like every day aliens 2009 district nine. Have you seen that one? Oh, yeah, I have seen district nine. I like that one. I really enjoyed that film.

Starting point is 01:03:48 I've seen it a couple times. I haven't seen it in a bunch, but I could go back and watch this one again. I don't remember really what it's about. I remember that he starts turning into one. It's one of those few movies for me that for bizarrely stuck in my brain. Like I very vividly remember the plot of that movie.

Starting point is 01:04:02 I don't know why I didn't see it a bunch, but I really like it. I mean, it's visceral. It'll stick with you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this one's like a huge like allegory type of movie. It's not really about like the mythology of aliens.

Starting point is 01:04:12 As we know, it's much more like creative than that. Yeah. Good movie though. Oh, what did I, what, independent state? I give it a question mark at a 10. You can't rate something like that. I'd be like to ask him how to rate McDonald's. It's impossible.

Starting point is 01:04:28 District nine, I give this one a hard eight eight out of 10. This one's pretty good. I give it a district nine out of 10. Oh shit. Okay, okay. I gotta take, I gotta take improv classes to meet you. A level man, I just can't get there. What do you mean?

Starting point is 01:04:43 That's awesome jokes. These great good. So we gotta good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good. But also, if you're coming from the main episode, going to watch Close Encounters of Third kind of is a great next little thing to go do and to round out your alien. All the stuff that's on everybody's mind, like with regard to what is interesting about aliens is like explored here so, like, optimistic.

Starting point is 01:05:21 I guess when we were watching it, but like, I mean, I had known that Heineken and Blue Book like worked with Steven Spielberg for this, but even when I was watching it, I'm like, man, they nailed how it like is reported to go down. Like, it's just mysterious and weird and just, yeah, it was also nailed the like pariah element, which is really, yes, very much so, yeah, yeah. Next one. I'm glad we got to put a fucking light on today, boys.

Starting point is 01:05:44 I just want to say that. Yeah. Good to get that off my chest. I bless it. I bless that two hours and eight minutes long episode. I'm honestly very proud of that episode. Yeah. Up next, the goat, ET 1982. Yep.

Starting point is 01:05:59 A little bit of rain. Did I rate close encounters? 10 out of 10. One of the best views that I've ever had. Yeah, I'll give that a 10 out of 10 with you. In the way that in the pen and state. Close encounters of the 10th kind, huh? Yeah, there we 10. One of the best. Yeah, I'll give that a 10 and 10 with you in the way that independent state. Closing counters of the 10th kind. Yeah, there we go.

Starting point is 01:06:08 That's not that. In the way that in the way that independence days, the 90s, this movie is the 70 or like early 80s, 70s, 80s was my jam as a kid. Absolutely 10 out of 10 fantastic film start to finish. He scared me a lot of it. He loves it. St director as fucking. Colson counters. Steven Spree.

Starting point is 01:06:26 He's like Spielberg. Like, say, Lians, he's very interesting in that whole field. Big fan. Yeah, yeah. He's the big boy. I also like to win ETS. I don't make all my name in University studios. I don't know if either you ever did that, but it was pretty great. So there you go. He used to go, goodbye, Alex.

Starting point is 01:06:46 Oh, I love E.T. He'd be at the end of the ride because they'd ask you what your name is, but when you're a kid, you don't remember that you told that person. So when E.T. says your name at the end of the ride, you're like, Mommy knows my name.

Starting point is 01:07:00 Another, this one's like probably my favorite movie on this list again. Another one that's my favorite movie on this list,. Another one that's my favorite movie on this list. 1982, the thing. I have not seen the thing. Dude, the thing's great. This, that's a good movie. This, this is like, talk about a fucking movie, man.

Starting point is 01:07:15 This movie fucking, this movie fucks. This is like a movie where shit happens in the movie. This is a good movie. Uh, go watch the thing. Uh, 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10 watch the thing. 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. The thing. Last one. Most recent movie on the list by a long shot. I think you've seen this one, Mathis. Arrival. I have not seen arrival. Oh man. I've heard it's great, but I just haven't seen arrival, Jesse. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:40 Yeah. This movie talks about an interesting element element like you know how we're talking about aliens and we're talking about like Biological creatures versus conceptual creatures versus creatures that maybe like don't experience Existence in the same manner that we do You know how that's like kind of the debate like maybe they're not just like from space and spaceships Maybe they're like beings elsewhere. That's not exactly what this movie is about but this movie is about Like stepping into the mindset of an of an alien that doesn't perceive Reality on the same

Starting point is 01:08:21 Lane the same way that you do Like a true alien. Very interesting movie. Yeah. This movie gets an eight out of 10. It also does a fantastic job of showing, I think how we as people would react to something like this.

Starting point is 01:08:38 Yeah. It's very realistic. We don't even know how to talk to, like fascinating. Very interesting. It's like actually like an updated version to me of, of, of close encounters in a way. Sure. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:52 Like it feels very much. I want to see it. How would be it? Yeah. It feels like the way that it's handled, it's not like Godzilla 1998 where you like have like a team of scientists, you know, it's like, I mean, it is a team of scientists, but it's realistic. I don't know. It's good. And force Whitaker gets to be like, I mean, it is a team of scientists, but it's realistic.

Starting point is 01:09:05 I don't know. It's good. And force Whitaker gets to be like, I'm, I'm doing, I love force Whitaker. You love force Whitaker. Jeremy renters not in it that much, so don't worry. You don't have to look at him that often. But Amy Adams is.

Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah, and she, she acts circles around the man. Anyway, those are the top 10 UFO movies. Go watch them or don't. Math is, we're gonna show you every single one of these. I'm impressed with how many I've seen, to be honest with you. I mean, in the slice of life that is a UFO movies, I'm glad that you've seen a fair amount.

Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah, me too. What about the movie that's going is? Is knowing, does that count? Knowing was Nicholas Cage? That's a great. We should watch that on rock. No one is a wild film, but also Mathis you'd be like, oh my god, yes, the entire time. I haven't seen that since college. That's what it is. Bunkers. What a film. I'm dead. Oh, I'm down. I've never heard of it ever. So I'm in. Well, thanks for that list, Alex.

Starting point is 01:10:06 I'm actually going to tangent off of that as well, because I do have a little something UFO related to be bringing to the mini-show. I sent this look to you actually in our tech group the other day. It was from blackfault. If you guys don't know, the blackfault.com is, it's basically a giant information aggregation website that trying to get a lot of FOIA requests. Is this the one that you texted us? Yes, this is exactly the one I texted you.

Starting point is 01:10:29 So basically, long story short is on September 27th over the course of 35 minutes. Numerous commercial airline pilots reported seeing a bunch of unidentified aerial phenomena. After putting in for a FOIA request, we have a little bit of info and we're going to go over what we know, what we don't, and what we may think it could be. The following incident actually was reported to the FAA and captured on air traffic control, we're actually going to be able to hear the conversation. Yes. We have the recordings over the course of a half hour, so it's a long video, we're not going to listen to all of it. Although the original pilot felt the lights may have been on the ground, the FAA reported the incident as unidentified aerial phenomena. It was

Starting point is 01:11:08 ultimately seen by numerous pilots, pilots and flights over the course of those 35 minutes. The black vault ended up receiving word of this incident, along with the details of the incident by someone who wished to remain anonymous, but had access to the FAA database that listed the report. It was sent to the black vault in early October 2022. And the incident details that were sent to the black vault were seemingly missing from the FOIA release. An appeal has been filed and they're waiting to see if anything comes of the appeal. As of right now, here's what we have.

Starting point is 01:11:40 Subject is like a bunch of other type of incident, unidentified aerial phenomena, Kansas City, Kansas City, Kansas, incident details, initial closeouts, like call sign of the planes, just like the whole logistics of it. A FOIA request was filed and the below is a result from FOIA case 2023-00488. What was sent was the audio file of the air traffic control recordings only. The more documentation was thought to exist and now has been requested. It is noted that the original pilot seeing the lights described them as quote, on the ground. However, it appears he was at about 35,000 feet above them. Yeah, he was fly.

Starting point is 01:12:18 I see. And at one point seemed to state that the lights had followed them and they were tracking them, quote, tracking them for at least 50 miles. During the course of the ATC trying to figure out the source of the lights, it was talked about what may be in the area they were seen, possibly like a large stadium or known concert. By the reaction of one of the controllers, it seemed like there was not much in the area that could account for the lights.

Starting point is 01:12:41 The black vault then goes on to say like, hey, we didn't do a formal investigation. This page is simply to set up an archive of the, of the foyer request, the information they've gotten and whatnot. They didn't dive in and try to figure it out. So they're not printing to try and do that. Should any independent investigation add in any of the story, they'll also add it, of course. I'm going to get and send you guys the video. We will start at about, like a minute and or so. The one from Black Vault. That's on YouTube. Yeah, but it's the real to real.

Starting point is 01:13:09 Yeah, the real actual recording. Again, it's a, it's 20 minutes long. It's, they edited out the long silences between like the pilot and the, and the FAA. So like, you're not sitting there waiting for, you know, what's the time stuff? Just, you can go to about a minute, 25 or so. There's not like any specific thing. Only that this like, you can hear some talk about it. Yeah, just the vibe, you can go out and listen to it.

Starting point is 01:13:34 This is on the Black Vault YouTube channel. It's definitely like chatter. Yeah, they didn't even send a transcript of it. They just sent the audio file. And, you know, I'm gonna pause that. We're not gonna listen to this whole thing. If they just sent the audio file. And I'm going to pause that. We're not going to listen to this whole thing. If you want the raw audio file download, they also have it on the black vault.

Starting point is 01:13:50 You can just go download the raw audio if you don't want to listen to the edited YouTube vision version. And what we have is the FOIA response that they received on November 16th. Like from the government? From the government. And we'll read out really what their response was. Dear Mr. Greenwald, subject freedom of information act requests number 202-300488. This is an air traffic organization central service area, full disclosure response to your

Starting point is 01:14:14 FOIA request dated October 5th, 2022, made under the provisions of Title V United States Code Section 552. You requested a copy of certain records pertaining to the unidentified aerial phenomena, initial closeout involving the plane's identification on September 27th, 2022, from various destinations. A search for records was performed at the appropriate air traffic control facilities within the CSA. The search revealed voice recordings applicable to this request. There are no fees associated with this request. Please be advised that the voice recordings have an encoded time source on the right channel and can be listened to on any media playback by adjusting the balance to the full left position. You have the right to seek assistance

Starting point is 01:14:53 from FOIA, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, signed Robert W. Beck, director of air traffic organization central service center. So they have it. This is out. This happened a week ago. There are some theories out there about what they could be the prevalent one, what they could be not being UFOs, obviously. The most prevalent one is that where they were flying over, there was this farmland, and there's a lot of windmills and things with like lights, like strobe lights, like positioning lights. You know what I mean? Like a flashing, like you would be like a safety light. Yeah, yeah, a possibility is something called pivot lights on irrigation systems.

Starting point is 01:15:31 Basically warning lights to show the large circular irrigation systems that are moving. And while this definitely is like can look really weird and has very bright, even from way up in the sky, they're very bright, it doesn't explain the pilot saying that the lights were following them for 50 miles. That's a long. They were just wrong. It's not like they yet. It's not like it was a little bit and they saw it. It was like, it was following from about 35 minutes at 35,000 feet. They could see them. I mean, it's not just that one pilot. It was multiple pilots.

Starting point is 01:15:58 It might not be that much time while you're in the air, but like real talk, just think about what's 50 miles away from you. The reason they say the pivot, pivot lights might be the case is because the lights do pivot to let you know the machine is still doing its thing. It's basically a feature so you don't have to go to the pivot and make sure it's still operating correctly. As long as the light is going, you know that the pivot is, the irrigation system is working. Some have the end tower light that comes on when the end tower is actually what they call pivoting, but a lot of people don't even consider changing the bulb when it burns out. The blinking strobe will tell you all you need to know. Certain areas of the country have an amazing amount of those blinking lights. So that's what they say that it possibly could have been that. They also say highway 287 north

Starting point is 01:16:43 of Amarilla in Dumas, Texas is amazing at night. And the combination of what seems like thousands of those strobes in the ability to see 50 miles in every direction could look like a spectacle, but they didn't say anything other than it could look like a spectacle. So that's what we have. What if that could look like a spectacle just like, no, it's like aliens, dude. Yeah, I guess. So there you go.

Starting point is 01:17:04 This is fresh. They're still waiting on the appeal they guess. So there you go. This is fresh. They're still waiting on the appeal they filed. So there might be more coming forward. They didn't, like I said, they didn't even send a transcript just the raw audio. And if you like that kind of thing, just to hear, you can just hear pilot reporting the UAPs, the back and forth, trying to figure out if there's something going on, like on the ground, like a concert, like I said earlier. It's pretty much no way that that's fake.

Starting point is 01:17:26 So, yeah, no, that's not fake. That came out of the way. You can literally go look it up, but like it's all available for you to go look up on government websites. It's pretty interesting. It's pretty interesting to get things and just know pretty much for sure that it's at the very least not somebody making up something, which is pretty much everything else. If you think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They said, you know, no evasive action was reported.

Starting point is 01:17:52 They weren't like trying to dip and dodge around or anything. They just kind of followed them for a while and then they were gone. So I don't know. Could it be those lights? Yeah. I think it very much, it very well could be. But as always, we didn't see it. They did. So who fucking knows, man, who knows? That's it. That's all I got. But it's interesting. I want to take you guys to a place that is a little more down to earth and that. Fuck you, Tom. No, it's it's meteorites. So, hey, we got two new minerals, brand new minerals, never foreseen on Earth. Never before seeing all what the hell I just said. But I know I'm and dank him is what it's called.

Starting point is 01:18:36 I guess in Somalia in 2020, a seven, I think it's 16.5 ton meteorite was discovered. I believe it's called the LLE meter right and a bunch of scientists went and took a small little 70 gram 2.5 ounce slice and brought it over to Arizona state to look at and mess with and they discovered it within it, two new, I don't know, elements like Rockets, minerals, yeah, two new minerals. I guess this is how they're doing it. The one is named, the names here are L-L-L-L-I-T- T E after the meteor and Elkins Stantonite, which is named after Lindy Elkins Tanton the managing director of eras Arizona States University of Interplanetary Initiative and the principal investigator of NASA's upcoming psych mission,

Starting point is 01:19:40 which will just Jen nine Pokemon. I mean, yeah, so Elkins done tonight and El, Elalite. There's two eyes on how you sell. Leila, I eat. I don't know how you say that. No way, that's how you do it. But yeah, all the scientists are like,

Starting point is 01:19:57 lose their mind because it's a pretty rare thing to discover just new minerals. And so this is gonna be, you know, they did a bunch of research on it and now they're, you're gonna do more, which is what science is about. And I think it's super interesting. So fucking love science. It's all of them. God bless every scientist that's out there. If you're a scientist and you're listening to this, I fucking love you. Kicking ass. Yeah, please. Big time fan. I don't know, I don't know as much of it, but I know as a likes it. I'll

Starting point is 01:20:25 So much all I do is eyes. I'm playing video games. I just played Vitch games and I don't know much. Yeah, talk about aliens Yeah, but scientists, I don't know much. I'm gonna save the world scientists because yeah, plan 40 hours got a war sure as hell I do it Played a game for children about collecting it. No, no, no, no. Plane. Plane game for children. About collecting monsters. Yep. Spending time looking into fake conspiracies over here.

Starting point is 01:20:51 Also not very useful to humans playing the game control. So what you're doing? Yeah, yeah. Well, boys, thank you so much. And thank you for the mini-sode. That was it. Right. I didn't miss anything.

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Starting point is 01:23:29 I can't argue with you. Bar. Our dearest friend Gerard is harassing you about a tech issue. And I'm trying to help him. Does it, oh, well, you're a good friend trying to help him out. No, no, no, he's not gonna get any help for the next 20 minutes or so.

Starting point is 01:23:42 So he's on his own. He's not a bond. Thank you, thank you the next 20 minutes or so. So he's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own.

Starting point is 01:23:51 He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own.

Starting point is 01:23:59 He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. He's on his own. We have a sad squash Sighting and maybe one of the most convincing ones I've ever seen ever. I'm gonna link you the video. It is Are you being facetious? There's this room. No, I am not I am this time genuinely. It's not a speck in the distance where I'm like Look at the detail. I want you know

Starting point is 01:24:16 Just so you can see to the good parts where he's playing it backwards and forwards so you can see it a bit easier. Oh Yeah, you saw it from a distance, right? No, that's good. What is this? This is so funny. So the guy's on his boat, he's like checking out the things and he catches like this bipedal creature that walks for like a couple of seconds, you see it and he like immediately turns toward it and starts moving his boat over that way. What is that is a great question. I don't know what the fuck that is.

Starting point is 01:24:47 Right around the minute closer to it. He never sees it again after that. He can't see it after that. So like after that first. Yeah. So go to a minute and five seconds and he's going to do. He's going to start playing it backwards and forward digitally zoomed. Like just like, you know, stretch to basically. I would love to see that. Yeah. But like you can still, you know, you can see it moving. The way it sways its arms as it moves, it's got that hunch to walk. It is some goddamn good footage.

Starting point is 01:25:14 It's also fake. I gotta say it's max. It's so incredibly fake. It's max of a composition a little bit. It has a little bit of a compositor, possibly. Yeah. But maybe I'm just saying that position a little bit, it has a little bit of a composite of my to it. Yeah. But maybe I'm just saying that because every time

Starting point is 01:25:29 that I see something real in my life that seems like impossible or something that I would never see, it always looks exactly how it looks in movies and it like fucks me up. Like when I see something explode or something like that, it looks exactly the same as when I see something like that. The reason why this is fake is because it defies explanation of how it starts.

Starting point is 01:25:51 It is a person on the boat. Is that kind of video that just was like? It is a person on the boat and he's filming and then the camera slowly turns as the boat turns and then the boat directly faces where big foot walks across. It wasn't like, oh, what is that? And then the camera turns?

Starting point is 01:26:05 It literally was a set up to point directly at it. That's like directly at the one space Bigfoot walk across that's clearing a knot trees. Nah, that's fake, that's fake. I mean, all it takes is one, one where there's a lucky catch on camera period, like could just be a lucky catch. That's also the problem with this is that the video you sent us doesn't have the actual,

Starting point is 01:26:26 oh yeah, this is a guy. He's a commentating over it. Some guy being like, does he have, no, he doesn't. Of course, you know, there's a link to the original. There's a link to the original. Bigfoot would be, so we don't even know what was being said then. Let's see if I can find the OG big foot. I don't know, bro, it doesn't seem real to me.

Starting point is 01:26:40 Caught on boat camera. Let's see. I'm impressed by that thing that was throwing trees than I am this. Oh, yeah, well, that was cool too. That thing was wild. That thing was wild. That was pretty interesting. And this is like, a dude walking.

Starting point is 01:26:54 It looks, here's the thing, it looks goddamn good. Right, but if you look at it here, and if the two of you can be here be like, this is what it needs to look like and the sub-ass look, surely someone trying to fake stuff, we'll think the, all right, so we gotta sway the arms. I could make this. I could make this.

Starting point is 01:27:08 Sure, yeah, we definitely could make this easy. I could make this with a little budget. I could go film this footage, get this perfect lighting on this part of the thing. Be like, we need something in full light like this. So just drive around until you find something like that. Grab it, you know, maybe you can even turn on some sort of weird tracking aid as you're doing it.

Starting point is 01:27:24 Maybe you can even place one on the shore and track so you can really track it if you really want to and you could make this footage. But the only thing that's bothering me about it is the look of it. The context, I'm not too worried about that. I think this is what any sort of accidental filming footage would look like.

Starting point is 01:27:43 I just think that the only thing about it that looks fake is that it's too goddamn good looking. Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, if it's like, you got to have that suspicion. Like you said, a very hard thing could be. There's a part in the middle of it, too, where it looks like he clips a little. I don't know if you see that. Oh, I did not see that, but. I don't think he actually clips, but there's just this part in the middle, like right when he hits like whatever that like,

Starting point is 01:28:08 just trunk is or whatever in the middle of his little walk. There's like a weird kind of clipping thing that's going on. Might just be from the distance. Yeah, I'm watching. I see what you mean. Yeah, I can't get over the fact that the boat is headed one direction. And that is a complete turn to face the one spot big foot would be at. Like I can't get over without the context of the video like did they hear a thing? Maybe that would change my thoughts. Yeah, I see it smell like I can't.

Starting point is 01:28:34 Yeah, unfortunately the head went away and then they full turn around and point directly at that. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, the only place that shared it was this Rocky Mountain Sasquatch organization channel. So you know, take over the grain of salt. Yeah. It's good footage. It's a good hoax. It's a real good piece of footage. It's done well done hoax if it's a hoax. This isn't exactly like as as a guy who loves Sasquatch footage, this one is a this one to Alzheimer. It's up there with the Patterson game. I will say it mentally not shaky not blurry. Right. That stuff.

Starting point is 01:29:06 It is very clear that it's something and it looks like what we would assume a Sasquatch would look like for sure. Oh, yeah. It's just, you know, it's what we'd assume it looks like. It's what it walks like we think it looks like. It's the same thing when people tell you stories of grace and it's like, that sounds like every other great. Well, yeah, I could make up a thing because everyone knows what I'm talking about now,

Starting point is 01:29:24 you know. Yeah, you know, you have a point, Jesse, take away my hopes and dreams. All right, that's why I'm on this show, man. Well, continue, then how about you take the next one, man? How you take it? What's your, what's your, what you got to? Well, well, well. So I don't know if I mentioned this story last time

Starting point is 01:29:39 it was on the show with you guys when this would have been last year around this time, actually, I was in San Francisco and I was filming a thing there and woke up one morning pretty early and I saw a man, probably an elderly older man digging through some garbage, which is, you know, it's the city happens all the time. But rolling up behind him, I've never seen this before my entire life, was a three and a half, four foot tall, wheeled robot. Okay.

Starting point is 01:30:12 Okay. And it had police logos all over it. And a voice came out of this thing and it said, please move away from the trash can. And the guy looked at it and then he looked at me and I looked at him and it was like, please move away from the trash can. And the guy looked at it and then he looked at me and I looked at him and it was like, please move away from the trash can. And he like slowly back to away and though for this wheeled robot thing like wheeled up to him, snapped a photo, wheeled away. And I was like, what the hell did I just see? And he looked at me and he's like, what was that man? I was like, I don't know, dude. And I went back and I told everyone,

Starting point is 01:30:47 like, yo, I just saw this robot. I've never seen a robot before. It was crazy. We are living in Cyberpunk 2077 now, which is why it's weird that an article that was posted in Vice, but this is from November 30th. And I don't know what this means for San Francisco,

Starting point is 01:31:04 but San Francisco, but San Francisco police according to a eight to three votes Now apparently I Just gonna read this and all it. It's just insane The San Francisco Police Department can now legally kill people with robots. Oh my god. This is not good We are super buyers for to give police the power on Tuesday, rebuffing critics who decried the further military militarization of the domestic police force. The new rule will allow police to use robots

Starting point is 01:31:35 as a deadly force option when risk of loss of life to members of the public or officers is imminent in outweighs any other force option available. The San Francisco police department. This is not good. And then all I'm saying is I feel like in this case what they're saying is we, if there's like someone's in a house and they've got a hostage we're gonna send in a robot or whatever. But I watched a robot walk up to a man on the street, we like move away from it. Now, now I'm terrified those robots got like little guns inside them because I don't like that. That was the world I've ever seen.

Starting point is 01:32:08 I don't like that. Why can't you get in the trash like that? Like what the fuck? Did you see there was also a clip I think from like a couple years ago and I don't even know if it was real but I saw it one time on the internet and so that's the best I can give you in terms of credentials for this but it was like news footage of a robot at like a bomb threat. And the robot was like picking up a, like a, like a, like a, like a brown paper bag. Like the kind of you put like a, like a 40 in.

Starting point is 01:32:36 Sure. And he's, and he's lifting it up. And the bag has a little rip in the side. And he lifts it up and a, and then the news guys like talking is like, he's lifting and I think he's lifting. And then something falls out of it out of the bag onto the ground and the guys like, I don't know what that was. I think it was a grenade and it pans down. It's like news guy and he's there, they're standing 20 yards away from this thing because

Starting point is 01:33:00 they're, it's like a, it's like a long lens and they are filming it and then it's on the ground and it is a grenade and the robot like looks down at it and it's like trying to like back up to look at it and starts to drive backwards on the grenade, like over the grenade. And I don't know if that was like some sort of anti-robot propaganda film or a real news footage

Starting point is 01:33:23 from a long time ago, but it was like the perfect like reason why you should never give a robot gun. The thing is like this goes against anything in robotics. So it's like robots shouldn't be designed to hurt people. Yeah, that's just that's just rule number one. We are treading the path AI killing us all. They're literally just like no, we're gonna make it so robots can kill people. And this is a thing now. I mean, we don't know what it's going to be used for. We don't know.

Starting point is 01:33:51 There's no designs for it yet, but they just voted that like, if it's needed, you can use it. And so here we are. And all I think about is there's two things to think about when I think about robots. I think about one, seeing that robot live and two, how I I might have been, yeah, I'm not sure where it was. They started doing Amazon delivery robots. And people would just attack the shit out of those robots. They'd knock them over, they'd beat them up. But I'm like, should I tell them me, we're gonna have street robots with guns at them. And they're gonna be moving around. If I need a quick gun, I just go

Starting point is 01:34:23 beat the shit out of the robot and then go commit a crime. Like it's just- Well then we have to introduce the law to give these robots AI to defend themselves, guessing- To defend themselves, right? And the hands where we begin. Then we're done. Did you hear about the, like, hitchhiking robot a couple years ago? Did we talk about that?

Starting point is 01:34:39 That was the saddest story I've ever heard. Like, he did- he'd like, went all across Europe or something had a great time. I don't remember. Yeah. Exactly the details'd like went all across Europe or something had a great time. I don't remember exactly the details. And then he gets to America and then like, he's like murdered on like the first or second day and they find this fucking robot. He's a hitchhiking robot.

Starting point is 01:34:54 He's like, it plays a little message like, hi, I'm trying to be your friend and hitchhike across the country. They find him like in a ditch, like stripped for parts. Like one or two days into America. You got the true American experience. That is last night speaking of the last night there was a video on Reddit about a guy from Australia.

Starting point is 01:35:13 And he was like, first day in this, my Australian apparently, first day in Los Angeles, everyone here is really nice. And then it cuts to him being robbed on the train. Oh my God. And he's like, him being robbed on the train. Oh my God. And he's like, please keep my phone back, please. And it's like, oh my God. So, you know, America. Hey, everyone, welcome.

Starting point is 01:35:33 It's a good place. Love living here. On real. Did you also see, this is completely tangential, but did you see the, there was another fucking attack on an electrical station in North Carolina by snipers? Dude, yeah, the same thing.

Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah, the same exact thing that I said. Good God. It's not like that. What is that guy? I know, but we've talked about it now twice. Oh. It makes me worried a little bit. What is it?

Starting point is 01:36:01 It's a bunch of people who can't handle like, and you were drag racing over here. I'll dare you. Like, I'm gonna destroy the power grid to show you. Okay. You know what's like fucked up that like my like weird anxiety brain goes to? Is like, what if I reported on that?

Starting point is 01:36:21 And then somebody was listening to the episode where I reported on it and was like, that sounds awesome. I'm going to go do that in my neighborhood. And then it's like a copycat. We do not glorify these people though. So you know what I mean? It's not like we're being like, wow, they're cool. There's really cool about doing any of that. No, you're. Yeah. Boy, that sure is dumb. Those are for the people who do these lives are so, so sad. They need to find something to bring them a spark of emotion and so they turn to criminality scary yeah I hope that nobody ever pathetic nobody's pathetic

Starting point is 01:36:54 nobody yeah just crazy you keep saying that they're gonna come not come on well listen you knock out the power in Texas I may never get it back with how our hearts just don't work so please don't do that speaking of things you may never get let's with how it parts just work. So please don't do that. Speaking of things you may never get, let's talk about some very, very high profile luxury experiences that you can do at Disneyland parks. Live in Golden Oaks. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah.

Starting point is 01:37:17 So, we're talking about Golden Oaks, but this is more, this is like the stuff that the high rollers get, and we're going to talk briefly about Club 33 again, just so you guys know exactly what it is. We talked about it in one minute so before but I think it costs $25,000 to get in and then the dues are another 10 grand a year or something like that and you have to wait years to get in. So people are lining up to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over years on this, right? Club 33 is like, there's a couple places in the places around the world in all the Disney parks that are like restaurants for Club 33 members.

Starting point is 01:37:51 And honestly, like, if you're not rich enough to travel around the world like that, you shouldn't even be thinking about Club 33. You know, I was lucky enough to be a guest of someone who's a member of Club 33 once or twice to eat in the restaurant. And if that's what they're fucking eating in the restaurant, I can lucky enough to be a guest of someone who's a member of club 33 once or twice to eat in the restaurant And if that's what they're fucking eating in the restaurant I can't even imagine what other kind of wonderful benefits there are to that one time I traveled in the caboose of the train

Starting point is 01:38:14 At Disneyland and saw up close. I could almost touch it a smoking jacket given to Walt Disney by Emperor here a Hito Think about like what the fuck is that? That's crazy. That's crazy. There's also 21 royal, which is if you have 15 grand, you have a five hour 12 person private dinner that you can do in the apartment that is above Pirates of the Caribbean. That apartment was five hour, 12 course dinners, that what you say?

Starting point is 01:38:48 12 person dinner. So basically, that's a lot of courses. It's like, it's like a little over $1,000 per person. And it's, and it's, they used to have a museum gallery up there that was really great where you could go buy art and stuff. But at some point, they ended up converting it to an apartment because they did this thing where like they make your dreams come true And they'd like select someone to go up there and like live in there for the night or something. Damn. And so

Starting point is 01:39:11 It was originally Walt Disney's like secondary apartment that he was having built so that he could be in the center of the park more And it's like a bigger and has like rooms and stuff and like salons and stuff But now yeah, you get this beautiful thing and you has a private balcony that you can watch Phantasmic from at night and it's just this beautiful building. So that costs $15,000 each time you do it That's open to anyone. I don't think you have to be a club that if you remember to do that one But then there's one that I found out about that I did not know about before that is called the office. Have you heard of this? I love that show. Have you heard of the office at lamp light lounge? No, I have not. So California Adventure has this restaurant

Starting point is 01:39:58 that is called the lamp light lounge, like a bar and grill kind of thing that's over in the like Pixar pier area that is like a Pixar themed bar, but it's like themed after like the people of Pixar. And the it's like a it's like a clubhouse for Pixar almost is the theme. And there's all this bespoke art on the walls and foreign Pixar posters. The food's really good. You can sit out and have lobster nachos on the water. It's a great little place for anybody to go, but apparently, inside of it is something called the office, which is like a secret dining room for like bigger groups, and you can ask about it, I guess.

Starting point is 01:40:38 It opened in 2018, right with the lounge, and apparently you just have to ask if you can do it and maybe you can get lucky. And it's to get in, there's a service door towards the back of the restaurant. And you go down like a weird hallway and then there's like a bank vault. And then they unlock the bank vault. And you can see the like gears turning and the locks on the bank vault. And then it opens opens and it's a like 13 person space. It has a big like meeting table in there. It has booth seating and chairs that are all brown leather and has red walls and a bunch

Starting point is 01:41:16 of original black and white sketches all over the walls by Pixar animators in like a beautiful sort of artsy way. Really amazing. There's also a sitting area on the other side of the room with leather arm chairs, small drink tables, retro board games, like our on the walls, and you can take them off the walls and play them. There's a balcony that you can see from outside the building that you can go look at the in credit coaster and it's private. It's 150 square feet.

Starting point is 01:41:47 It's like pretty small, but you just, it seems like there's, so it seems like it's kind of unclear how people get into this place, but this article that I'm reading from SF Gate has like a couple different accounts of people trying to get in. So one person said that they just heard of it from a friend and then they showed up for their reservation

Starting point is 01:42:14 and asked if they could do it and they could do it. Huh, they just made, because Disneyland, all the restaurants now, it's all like app-based. So you can make reservations at any restaurant. So she showed up for her and was like, can I go in the office and they were like, yes. And then she said also that you have to crack a code

Starting point is 01:42:31 to get inside. That's like interactive. Like getting into a speak easy. That's cool. But she hasn't been able to get back in after trying a couple times. She hasn't been able to get back in. Then there was Miranda Lee,

Starting point is 01:42:45 who I believe is some kind of like Disney influencer type person. She said she went with eight to, with reservations in the Lamplight lounge and they checked in and because they had eight, they escorted her to the office and they didn't know that they were going to the office. They didn't know that the office existed. So it seems like sometimes when a big party shows up

Starting point is 01:43:10 and the office is available, they might just take you to the office, which is a cool idea. Or maybe they recognized her as Disney influencer Miranda Lee, who knows. There's also this other story of Casey Mott, who is an Instagram person. Casey Entertainment Cheese is her Instagram.

Starting point is 01:43:30 Amazing. She arrived with a party of 10, and they were one of the first parties of the day, one of the big parties of the day. They got a secret cocktail on the deck, because there's a secret cocktail that's only served in the office that has Tito's vodka, watermelon, the cooler, berry smoothie mix and agave and served in martini glass with fresh raspberries. Pretty cool.

Starting point is 01:43:53 And a lot of people can't have not been able to get in. One person said that she tried to get in and every time they just can't get in because there's just not enough people. Like I guess part of what you need to do is you need to roll pretty deep to get in there. And yeah, that's the best, that's the best anybody can say. It's a secret little clubhouse inside of this restaurant and it's not a luxury experience in the same way that the other ones are. It's just something that can happen, which I think is, I think that's really neat.

Starting point is 01:44:24 And if you go to the Casey Entertainment cheese post, let me see if I can get the link for you guys. This post, the last post is like a video and you can kind of see. So maybe you can like talk about, oh, it looks because it's a little bit smaller than I expected. Oh, that's really tiny. But it's nice. It's nice. And they're on, they have a private balcony

Starting point is 01:44:47 and they're drinking their little special drink on the balcony and you get to see the cool like light walls with the Pixar balls. And then literally the last thing is a video clip of the bank fault opening and going into the, into the thing. Yeah, it's really neat. I mean, well, some little special like that

Starting point is 01:45:03 that like you spread, it's word of mouth and stuff. I mean, Disney seems like they're very good at that kind of thing. It's neat to me because you can go in. Mm-hmm. I would say that don't Google KC as in KC because you end up with the if you type in KC entertainment cheese, you're gonna get Chuck E. Cheese home Kansas City, Missouri. And I don't think that's what you were talking about. Nope. Yeah, Chuck E's middle name is Chuck. Entertainment cheese. Charles entertainment cheese.

Starting point is 01:45:39 Because entertainment is his middle name. Now I know that. I love that. Fantastic. Anyway, Disneyland,. I love that. Fantastic. Anyway, Disneyland, come back next week. For more, I'll do another mini-sode. I'll know another Disney mini-sode too, just because I think it's fun.

Starting point is 01:45:52 It is fun. Thank you guys so much for supporting us and listening to the mini-sode along with us. We will be back next week as Alex said. Thank you so much. Goodbye. Bye. Or.

Starting point is 01:46:03 Anyway, me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night enjoying ourselves. I needed to go to the bathroom so I stepped back inside and after a few moments I hear my wife go, holy shit get out of here! So I quickly dashed back outside and she's looking up the sky and fall. I look up to her and there's a perfect line of dozen lights traveling across the stop. 1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5- Thank you.

Chilluminati Podcast - Minisode Compilation 33

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