Chilluminati Podcast - Minisode Compilation 35

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

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The finest website ever made. Thanks Al Gore. Hello everybody. Uh, Alex you teased us with a time traveling story and I kind of just want to hand it right over to you. That's right. Check it out. So look. Rumors abound about this new Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny movie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody is saying that there's time travel in this movie.

Everybody's saying that there's the dial of destiny. And they're guessing that the dial of destiny is something called the chrono visor. I don't know if you guys have heard of the chrono visor before. Maybe you guys out there in listener land have heard of the chrono visor. But basically that was an alien tool brought by Valley and Thor. It could be.

Probably not, though, because here's what's the deal. We know how people always say, like, at the Vatican, like they declared it this at the Vatican or at the Vatican. There's this sort of at the Vatican vibe of the Vatican having this secret occult tech or they have like the Langley Virginia of magic and demons secretly at the Vatican, right? Like people always talk about there's like relics and all kinds of shit that they have in their like weird archives that we could never know about. You get, you get what I'm saying at the Vatican. So the Chronovisor is one of these items that's supposedly at the Vatican. And the idea is that the inventor of the chrono visor who is a man named Marcello Pellegrino Ernetti was a Benedictine monk. So check this out. Basically, this machine took a

picture of Jesus Christ. So here's how it went back in time and did this. Yeah. So in the 50s, there's this guy, Father Pellegrino Ornetti, who used this chronoviser apparently. And the question is, how did a monk get this technology. Basically, he was born in 1925, he joined the Benedictine order in 1941 when he was 16 years old. He was a Roman Catholic priest and he joined the World War II and he became an exorcist and a musician and a music theorist and a physicist priest. And apparently, in 1952, he was working in the electroacoustics laboratory of the Catholic University, and he had a bulky tape recorder that suddenly emitted what he believed to be the sound of his dead father's voice. And it was a supportive message.

And he took this message to the Pope Pius XII in Rome, who told him that the Vatican could use this technology. So in the 60s, he revealed that, to another priest, he said that he became a member of a 12-member group of scientists, a think tank. And this think tank was supposedly had Fermi in there, you know, from the Fermi paradox. Yeah, Fermi paradox.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Werner von Braun was supposed to be in this. Of course. Nazi. Yeah. Perfect. And so it was like a 12-member group of scientists, and it's believed that he developed modern physics theories using ancient practices of exorcism and his knowledge of archaic music theory

in order to basically build a device of numerous antennae composed of mysterious metals which receive light and sound signals on every wavelength, a direction finder for tuning into a time and a place, and a TV-like monitor with a screen and keypad and a recording device like a capture card so that you could actually photograph and view moments from across time and space. Okay. Yeah. Do we have any of these photographs?

Well, we'll get to that in a minute. He told the journalists that they looked in and they dialed into various parts of history, and he saw without sound a marketplace in ancient Rome in 98 to 117 CE. He checked out the time of Cicero a little after that. BCE, or before that BCE, talking to the Senate, Cicero talking to the Senate, Mussolini giving speeches, Napoleon giving speeches, ancient plays, Diestes by Quintus Enius, lost play, one of Rome's most important authors.

And I'm getting all this from Mysterious Universe, so if you want to read more about this, there's more about that. But the key thing is that they checked out Jesus' last supper. They checked out the crucifixion. And word spread, he released the text of the play as proof. And in 1972, he gave the Italian magazine La Domenica del Corriere an image of Jesus crucified. All right.

Crucified. Oh, man. Yeah. Couldn't have picked when he was like not in pain. Yeah. So Jesus having a good time. How else do you know it's Jesus? I guess.

If it's just a picture of Obi-Wan Kenobi, I'll be real pissed. I'll be happy. No, it's good. It's good. It's legit. Here we go. Legit. It's legit. I mean, it's an illustration. No, that's a picture. It's definitely an illustration.

That's a picture of Jesus. However, it's not a picture of Jesus because let me tell you what happened. Basically somebody saw this in the newspaper after they published it as, as a photo of Jesus. This is a picture that would be on like the front of national inquire. Basically somebody saw this in the newspaper after they published it as, as a photo of Jesus. This is a picture that would be on like the front of national inquire. They saw it. It's, it's the reverse image of a wood carving of Jesus from a postcard. And so he was accused of reversing it, distorting it, making it blurry and saying it was real. And, uh,

they looked into the text of the play and it turned out that a lot of the words in the play were a lot newer than the play was supposed to be. And it was like poorly written. And on his deathbed, he said that the photo was fake and that he built the chrono visor with the help of an assistant, but that they were unable to get it to work. And, uh, you know, just, you know, who knows, who knows what's what, if they ever got it working, you know, but if he could have gotten it to work, that's what Jesus would have looked like. Yeah. If they could have got it to work, you can look it up. That's what Jesus would have looked like. The chrono visor exists.

It's a time machine that may or may not be in the Vatican. Probably not, but there you have it. I'm going to go with story and Indiana Jones is going to steal it from the Vatican. Does he look like a Venetian to you? He, he, you know what? I didn't think so, but now I would say that he very much does. Yep. There you go. All right, Jesse, what you got gentlemen today, I wanted to bring you something a little fun, a little silly, a little out there mostly because over on Twitter this week, I saw a guy, actually I saw a retweet

of this guy Paul Ferry who is posting various old newspaper articles, right? And this is one that I saw that cracked me up and it took me down a rabbit hole and I just want to share stuff with you. So this is a dream from 1923 about the year 2023. And this is a screenshot of one of the, the 1923 dreams someone had. And this is, uh, someone dreamed the other night that he was living in the year 2023 and people were going on strike because they only got $125 a day while the price of eggs had gone up to $10 a dozen. Okay, that was very funny and like a little apt. It's like that far off. Right.

off right but this took me down the rabbit hole of other things cuz uh Paul posts all sorts of like wacky fun things like the the on his twitter account the very top is a recipe in an old i assume newspaper for prune and cream cheese donut salad gonna pass just listen to the ingredients Mmm. Got a pass. Just listen to the ingredients. One half pound, one fourth pound cream cheese, four prunes, four donuts, four lettuce leaves. Here's the thing. You know those like fucked up videos of like somebody pouring nacho cheese on a fucking counter? This is roughly the same thing. It's basically that. I would rather have that in the fucking nacho cheese cone or whatever. So these are some of the headlines headlines that I that I just want to share with you because they're amazing um no more hard work by 2023 oh finally dude dr. Charles peace Steinmetz the electrical expert believes that the time is coming when

there will no longer no there will no long drudgery yeah and that people will toil not more than four hours a day owing to the worst in the world of electricity so that's the thing that i thought was pretty funny right and wrong because here's the thing about that one we just suck more like we like the amount of work that people did back in 1923 compared to now, it doesn't even seem like hard work probably to them. Yeah, true. They probably would kill to have the type of jobs that we have.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Here's another one. By 2023, the average life of man could be increased to a hundred years and individual cases could be increased to 150, perhaps 200. That would be nice. If there was free medical insurance, who knows what the upper limits could be? This this guy responds and says, a scientist says a century from now, the average length of the human life will be 300 years. Quite a change. We have today have been living that long about once a month.

That's I love that little like addendum there. Um, then we have this one that I always, I think this one's great. Curls for men by 2023 predicts anthropologist. Curls? Bases a statement on trends of masculine and feminine styles. Curls. We're going to curl our hair. Okay. Oh yeah. But this person bases it on good night. It is now predicted that by the year 2023, only a mere little stretch of a century ahead, women will probably be shaving their heads. No way. And the men, oh yeah. And the men will be wearing curls. Oh no. The maidens may pronounce it.

The humanity. This is my favorite part. Also the maidens may pronounce it, the height of style in personal primping to blacken their teeth. Won't we be pretty? What? So that one says.

Give me that charcoal baby, gotta get dark. What is even the editorial, like, what is the goal of that? Why? What are we trying to say? It's just like topsy turvy. Now we're just like, you know, it would be crazy. These are just people like predicting the future. This one's great. Uh, beauty contests will be unnecessary as there will be so many beautiful people that'll be almost impossible to select winners. The same will apply to baby contestants.

I love this one. This one, toddlers in tiaras. This is kind of all right on so far. A new polar airline is opened making flights across the North pole from Chicago to Hamburg possible in 18 hours. That's another prediction. Yeah. This one is my absolute favorite because I don't even understand the science of this Minneapolis Journal. It is an attractive prophecy that Glenn Curtis, the airplane authority gives of air flight.

He predicts that by the year 2023 gasoline as a mode of power will have been replaced by any guesses. Electricity crystals. 23, gasoline as a mode of power will have been replaced by... Any guesses? Electricity. Crystals. Hydro. By radio. And that disguise will be filled with a myriad craft surfing over well-defined roots of radio.

Radio? What? I don't even know how that would work. I have no idea. That's like a fundamental misunderstanding of like literally everything. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to like, how that would work. I have no idea fundamental misunderstanding of like literally It's crazy both how Wrong some of these are and how like this one by the year 2023 the population of the United States will be an immense 300 million

No Drainage on our lowlands and irrigation of arid lands. We'd have so much more free space pretty much just right on in every way. It's like right on, isn't it? A 300 million we're like three 63 80 something like that. Yeah, we're in the 300 million range. Yeah. I love this one in reading a forecast of 2023. When many varieties of aircraft are flying through the heavens, we do not begin the day by reading the world's news, but by listening to it for the newspaper has gone out of business more than half a century before. Well, they're off by about half a century, but slowly, but surely it's happening. Yeah. They

didn't know about television, but they kind of understood the way things were going. Hell yeah. This one I love this the war of AD 2023. Professor forecasts wireless wonders. How shall flight in AD 2023, how we shall fight excuse me, is the subject of a contribution by professor A.M. Low and 19th century and after professor dwells on latest scientific war terrors refers to an invention of his own jets of water, highly

charged electricity. What the fuck? Wow. Zappity water. What does it shoot? Zappity water at them. He also says that there will be other wonders like wireless telephony. Oh, writing. Yeah. Yeah. And he says that it will give us sight and heat and

power and writing may play an important part in it as well, which is like texting, I guess full on. Yeah. And he concludes that it's quite possible civilization has advanced another century Mental telepathy might exist from the embryo. So, you know both right and very wrong Well, I mean if valiant Thor is to believe like valiant Thor approves That's what I'm saying. We just gotta get closer to godliness to achieve telepathy You'd think God wouldn't want to give you powers to manipulate other minds, but very true. This one says that by 2023 there will be no mail between New York and San Francisco,

but there will be a thousand mile an hour freighters that make delivery of goods and watch size radio telephones will keep everyone communicating. So there's no reason for mail letters anymore, which is like kind of there. Kind of there. Yeah. Yeah. We're pretty correct. I don't know about a thousand miles an hour, but again, no flight, right? Right. We use like, you know, our like a Apple watch things. Some people do at least to communicate and they don't need.

They can send a text instead of sending a letter I Mean how long is in 1923 not that yet, right? Oh In 1923 worse, I mean the Wright brothers were well actually this is post-war war one So plane technology really took off during World War one And that's when it became like oh, people be flying all the time now. So in 1923, it was pretty good like prop plane tech, right? Like there's, we're starting to get into like people traveling via plane. So, you know, it, what was it? It wasn't the way that the infrastructure of the world worked yet, right? No, no, no. This is one like the

people that could afford to get on a plane were rich and they like smoked in like lawn chairs on the plane yeah yeah very safe and there's all sorts of other stuff you want to check it out again it's uh paul isci on uh twitter and he just posts all sorts of like wacky things from in the paths i I love it. In the past. And so you can just go check it out and see all the weird things. It's interesting. That was delightful. Please do. That was delightful. And we're going to leave it on that because I still have a little bit of a sore throat. And after doing an episode, it's a little scratchy. So I'm just not going to, I'm not going to irritate the fucker. I'm just getting a little cold. Why risk it?

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Hello my little children, welcome back. Yeah, okay little children. Yeah. No. Minisode 121, Minisode 121. You have you tantalized us with a little To the Stars Academy, which I have very mixed feelings about as a group as a whole. So I'm curious what it is you're bringing to us. As you know, To the Stars Academy is the Tom DeLong

associated Company it's a company. It's called the to the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, but it's a company and What they do is they have put out those three pieces of footage or whatever it was a couple years ago and pieces of footage or whatever it was a couple years ago and what's his name? Elizondo is involved with them. Luis Elizondo is involved with them. There's also a guy that's like really hard to like know if you can trust or not. Yeah and the idea with the company is that we need to have transparency about UFOs yada yada yada so here is a transcript on BBC Radio 1 rock with Daniel P. Carter Tom DeLong came on and I'm gonna read what he said a

little transcript by him really quick of some new stuff and then I'm gonna get into a few other little things and we'll be done so here we go I always tell people there is this real cool, really cool document that I have that was a part of the UFO program where they were studying a kid in China who can move objects with his mind. He's around 10 years old,

so they wanna figure out how that's possible, and they recreated it in the lab. I have the whole Department of Defense document, and it goes through it, and it says they were able to put a piece of paper in a glass jar, screw the lid on it and move the paper through the lid and then six feet across the floor all with their mind. 100 people can do this, only 10 have mastered it and it was just wild. So telekinesis has been proven in the lab but no one knows about

it. I'm like to be able to move things with a force like in Star Wars is a big deal. I know it sounds ridiculous, that's why, and within the current paradigm it sounds ridiculous. I'm sure you won't remember, I'm sure or you won't remember, but we had a conversation at the reading festival many years ago where I think I probably came across as a total maniac even to someone as open-minded as yourself, but I was talking about reading a bunch of different things which means nothing, but I was looking at different realms of consciousness because that's the basis of everything I believe. I believe that consciousness precedes matter, and I highly agree with you.

Because the current paradigm is that consciousness is a facet that's created by matter, which is just this weird thing that's come about because our brains are complicated, and that's nonsense. I think it's exactly the opposite, and once we discover that stuff, life is going to get very interesting. Once we discover that mind over matter, not the other way around, we will have the ability to heal ourselves, create new types of sciences and engineering, and become a civilization where telepathy is a part of it. I believe that's all going to happen.

There is one person who was up for the Nobel last year, is one of the top geneticists in the world at one of the Ivy League schools that we're working with, who worked on part of the UFO program at the Pentagon. I was talking to him, and they found an area in the brain that they believe is where telepathy happens, and he believes he can create something to enhance it by a thousand times,

like some type of drug that targets that area of the brain. So that's the thing, people do think it's ridiculous, but not that people who have an open enough mind to research and jump in. These guys are like world leading PhDs, and that's been the kind of the story of my life is everything I've told, even on Rogan, is not made up. It's coming from somewhere,

and I can't say where it's coming from, but at the end of the day, it's all real. I think it's going to be a very exciting time. Once people accept all the stuff that we've been talking about here in this interview, I think it's really going to change the world. Yeah. So this is, I've read this whole thing. I knew exactly. Uh, and like I said, when it comes to to the stars Academy, especially Tom DeLong, I have such mixed feelings because on the one hand, I do think he's trying to push disclosure

or something about, I mean, it is fact that he and his people were the one to get those UFO videos from Air Force out into public and force the conversation to happen. And on top of that, we know the CIA has done weird like tests and studies about like, you know, remote viewing. Mind control stuff, man who's scared goats. Yeah, all kinds of like, you know, uh, remote mind control stuff. Men who stare at goats.

You know, exactly. And not even include, not even thinking about, or including the MK ultra stuff, right. But at the same time, he's also running an entertainment company to the stars Academy exists primarily to create entertainment movies, documentaries, they're working on a TV series. They're working on this, that, and the other. And while there is, I do, this is why I'm so iffy on it because I do think it's necessary to get into the world of entertainment to get the message out if it's real because that's just how people work. But also he says a lot of stuff and has, and refuses to show the things he has that say that back. That's the problem is he talks a lot and says, I have this.

Believe me, I have this. But like, you know. Yeah. I mean, he just he's just a really high profile guy. Yes. And that's necessary to a degree. But it's he's no different than right. Like the strangers. Yeah. He's no different than the ancient alien guy or anything. Yeah. Anybody else? Until we see something.

Which is kind of just cause he was in Blink 182. So it's interesting. And he's still doing shit with them. They just released a new album. Yeah. January, 2022, he said, would you say UFOs are driven by aliens? Do you think it's a drone? He says both.

He says he's he's on the mindset that they're not coming from another planet. They're coming from dimensional or something. Yeah, so here's a quote from that, which I I actually if I had to choose, I more believe that as well over the other. Yeah. He has he has a quote about that. He says, I think the biggest misconception is that they're coming from other planets. Evidence doesn't really support that. The evidence supports that it's dimensional and that it's parallel timelines

that exist with frequency like I was talking about earlier in the episode, the hyper crisis. It's really complicated, different and interesting. But once you understand that, you have no way out of re-examining the religious world and wondering what the star of Bethlehem really was. He also thinks it's likely that there's lots of aliens in the oceans. He says, I can see that there was a helicopter pilot who was testing torpedoes a Navy sail was sent down on a wire to get the torpedo out of the water But right when he got to the water something grabbed on the torpedo came up in yeah

Mm-hmm, and so I know that's not pulled up and out And yeah, you have the whole fucking thing underwater remember that whole thing that got ripped out That looks like it was ripped from the cables. We talked about in a mini So it a long time ago. Yep, that weird underground underwater like study that looked like it was ripped from the cables we talked about in a mini so a long time ago yep that weird underground underwater like study station or whatever it was yeah and here's a clip of him there's a clip of him five minutes on reddit on our UFOs where he's saying during an interview that he thinks that UFOs are from outside of time yes and that actually was gonna say I think one of his quotes is he believes

they stand outside of time. Like a TARDIS. Yeah. Or just like, again, if like... Like they can go, they can move and do things without being subject to the rules of time, basically. Right. And I mean, like, that's, I find that a fascinating thought experiment and regardless of true or not, because again, we don't really know what time is. Right. because again, we don't really know what time is. Time, we know time and space are the same, and we know that time is affected by gravity, but we don't understand how it works. And if it's like actually real.

Time is our perception of entropy. Literally, yeah, exactly. And then you have the argument of like, well, what are we, what we're seeing is only what our brain is letting us see. So maybe, you know, there's a lot out there. And I'm, I very much align myself with a lot of what he says, but not because

of him saying it just my hundreds and hundreds of hours peeling through garbage and I'm not saying anyone is true or false and I appreciate what he has done in his company has done for the UFO like world but also he's doing damage at the same time by spewing Cool, if not crazy sounding nonsense that he claims he has evidence of I think even in one of the interview says like the US Has bits and pieces of like UFOs that were taken down, but not like a full crowd. I don't know It's like it's up right out there. I'm just gonna I'm rambling at this. It's all just kind of weird and and Never fully a fact. Yeah. Yeah. The the more I got into UFOs, especially when the show started, the more like my opinion from them being from another world to being something interdimensional or something else entirely

consciousness derived is kind of like that's where I follow as well because a lot of it, it's a lot of correlation doesn't mean causation, but a lot of correlation between what we see and some of these theories and I just I want to know sorry Jesse I know you think we're gonna say some stuff but no I'm just completely okay look it's one of those things where just look at what Alex read everything in there hit every angle. It wasn't like a focused statement. It hit every possible angle to like, you know, just like give a little dog whistles to every possible conspiracy. It was like talking to my dad when he's watching football and asking him about

aliens. He just kind of says keywords. Yeah. And it's like, okay, no, he said some things, but he also threw in like some religious stuff Yeah, and also threw in some like well, maybe it's not this maybe they're from a different thing And and it's just like a lot and not focus and that's how I know that I shouldn't really take it all With more than a grain of salt because it's not anything really he does what the ancient alien guys does and he'll maybe bring up one thing that like There's a fact or evidence for and then he spins out into his own theories while asserting them as fact.

And that's literally what what ancient aliens does on the history channel. I've watched like two episodes and it's always hinged on something they may have that might be something maybe. And then when they spin out their theories, it's all just spoken as fact. And that's like his interdimensional consciousness stuff. Yeah, there's a part, like I really think that's a cool angle and maybe the right one, but there's no evidence.

You have no evidence right now, dude. So you can't just be like, this is it and this is it. It's the same rhetorical technique used by a lot of modern day debaters, air quotes, a lot of talking heads on TV, a lot of gotcha stuff. Yeah. Just trying to like say a statement that we know is a fact and then extrapolate that while throwing out so much nonsense that you can get away with them saying,

but you know, I'm just talking and thinking out loud and I'm offering what if scenarios and I'm asking questions and people are afraid to ask questions that kind of thing. And it's like you're not doing anything to help. You're just yacking away. Agreed and it's frustrating because like I said, a lot of the things he's saying, I personally am like, it intrigues me. It makes me interested. It makes me want to follow that thought.

That's why he's saying them because it intrigues you and you want to interested. It makes me want to follow that song them because I just you and you I'm gonna be more involved with his thing that he's gonna he goes on to say like I Have paperwork from the government and put it out there dude. Put it out there fucking publish that shit, please Stop playing games and I want to see this shit Yeah, anyway, uh, I I do like the to the stars conversations. It's just I want them see this shit Yeah, anyway, uh I I do like the two to stars conversations It's just I want them to do something more I very much appreciate the videos from a few years ago They need to like rip their fucking band-aid off and like give like like go against the government once they need to like

It's weird that they're an independent company. They're like I can't I can't say that yeah It's really really really weird anyway, Jesse Let's move to you. What are you sure? Uh I got got but it's also a fascinating article, but I got by you know clickbait Oh, yes title says space probes sent by aliens could arrive in reverse Here's why okay again? Maybe this has something to tie I wonder if this has something to do with time or yeah, this is from universe today, and it's just about You know distance right and so the idea behind it is that If you're an alien just like imagine an alien species, and you're sending out probes, and you're trying to reach out into the galaxy

one of the things is is that eventually your technology gets better and as it does, your ability to create better probes and master space travel gets better. And those better things are next generation compared to the first one you sent out and they will move faster through space. They will get to different. Right. But at the same time, you're not going to just keep making probes over and over and

over. There's a technological kind of like, why would you? Yeah. Right. There's a barrier. You would be like, okay, let's wait a little bit and like increase our technological skill before we send out another one. Cause we're just sending out the same damn thing over and over again to waste the money,

waste of resources, waste of time. And so it's the hypothesis here is that the things we're seeing or we would see if it's a probe might be the like 50th generation probe and out in space there's all these other probes and the example they give I think this is actually brilliant this is what I wanted to share with you guys is um a loose illustrative case uh the guy who was, who's writing this article talks about that a next generation probe, assuming that we follow the difference between like Goddard's, Robert Goddard's rocket and the Voyager probes, right? That was a hundred years. Yeah.

And so the difference between like technological leaps and things. So imagine, you you know using Voyager 2 as humanity's generation zero probe they calculate the interstellar travel if we do every 100 years an additional new probe that first probe it would take 80,000 years for it to reach our stellar neighbor so if you include every 100 years, in the 27th generation probe, 2,700 years from now, that probe will be so much more advanced and travel at such a higher speed that it would reach the same destination as the generation zero probe in only 5,560 years. Meaning it would arrive 7,400 years before Voyager 2 even got there.

There was something about this that I was watching something about this recently too. I don't know what it was. That's so interesting. And then like, but, you know, that's sending it to a nearby star, right? What if we wanted to go to a star a hundred light years away? In that case, our 140th generation probe, we're talking 14,000 years in the future, that would get there so much more faster than it would arrive at that destination in 28,000 years. And the Voyager 2 probe would take 1,972,000 get there. Damn. That's the difference. And so basically they're saying like the thing with all this is that what we might see,

it might be like super duper high advanced because of all the tech they had to go through to get it here to us. And so that's also why we are kind of like, Whoa, we don't understand it. You know, like that kind of vibe where it would have to be so hyper advanced to even travel through space. And the things that would reach other stars would do so. And that's how we can kind of understand here on our end, which I think is fascinating. I love that kind of stuff. Dude, the, the, the, is it, I'm not crazy, right?

Like the past few months have been crazy UFO focused again. Am I, am I feeling not? I mean, here's what I'll say about that. My connection to it is from you. Like when, when, when something goes down, Mathis texts the group chat about aliens. Yeah. Well, we just had a CNN article written about the Pentagon's hunt, uh, the long hunt for UFOs. We had an MSNBC article talking about the congressman that I gave you the article to and the thing about saying the UFO shit is being covered up.

And the thing I'm gonna talk about a little bit, well, there's two things I wanna quickly talk about. One thing we covered way, I think in November, we talked a little bit about it in a mini-sode where there was a FOIA request for a certain aircraft for control, sighting of UFOs, but they didn't have the audio but they were able to get the

The markings or whatever it was like the the dots along the air traffic control track. I guess they were following. However, uh, yeah It is the blackbolt file the for duh The result was a visual of the radar data laid over the ATC recordings. The clip is below They actually got the recordings for the air pilots and what they were saying when they were seeing them, basically being like they're back, they're back, I can see the lights, I can see the lights. You know that's, I was gonna talk about that mainly but there is something else I'd actually much rather talk about because you brought up to the Stars Academy. Speaking of to the Stars Academy, there's a ex-CIA officer

who was with them that not too long ago ended up talking about the UFOs and aliens and where they actually come from again. So there was a CIA officer by the name of Jim Semovin who made a statement a couple months back saying, quote, there's a whole other reality that surrounds us that we just simply don't have the ability to see or interact with. He worked, this guy worked with the CIA for 25 years before joining Tom DeLongs to the Stars Academy with other ex-government insiders.

And the TTS is an organization, yeah, yeah, yeah. He described how he joined the CIA and acquired years of specialized training in spycraft. And since the CIA operates under the need to know premise, he says he was not specifically informed of any of the studies they were doing and according to him quote there is a force out there that control that can control our environment that can put thoughts into our heads.

He goes on and says when we started TTSA we had discussions about this all the time. Are we sure we want to disclose this information? Are we sure we want to scare kids? And he said you know it goes on to say some of his friends were like, yeah, we got to do it. Some said we don't. But he goes on to say that the force that we can't see can like influence us via consciousness.

And there are photos with him alongside in terms of like the Bush Intel chair, alongside agent Luella Zondo. And now he's also with TTS. And he's also speaking about right now that these things are like on top of us essentially like in existence at the same time as us. So it's just you know another one of those like these keep popping up. We had an MSNBC article written recently too. It's just a lot of shit.

You know what's fascinating about this? The more you and I guess we on the show talk about the idea of aliens being not from space, which, by the way, going back to, you know, how long it takes to travel through space, like they very well, maybe, you know, there's still might be, but the fact that there's okay. Aliens as we know them, right? The idea that there's another reality on top of our own. It almost feels like that is the simplest answer. And more importantly, a unifying one for everything. The idea that what is a ghost, a ghost is a reflection.

To me, it feels like if you're going to be in this world of cryptids and paranormal, all there's like a, you know, if you want to do that, it's so much easier just unified all and be like, there is a alternate reality on top of ours and everything we see is reflections of that or it invading us. And that's, it makes, it's so much simpler than having to explain ghosts and aliens and monsters. We talked about it during the skin walker ranch series, like the idea that maybe it's not different things, but it's all one thing, kind of like popping in and out, finding ways like leaking in or anchoring in, or we get glimpses

or our brain like forgets to filter something. Who knows? But yes, that I agree. It's the modification of me, but the idea of multiple realities with various different like entities all layered on top of each other on earth. I see that? I kind of like walk like, you know, sometimes you see a thing and like, Oh, but maybe it's just another version of you from a different, like it's so much, it makes more sense. Everywhere all at once. When you think about it, it sounds crazy, but comparative to everything else, it is so much more reasonable to just assume, oh, there's there's other layers of reality.

We just there's dimensions. We're in the third. It hones in on our like the base question of like, we still don't know what consciousness is. Sure. Like, it kind of goes to the root of that. It's all about the changing perception of like, we still don't know what consciousness is. Sure. Like, it kind of goes to the root of that. It's all about the changing perception of like human existence. Exactly. And if it is this thing sat on top of us causing all these different things, like you said, it makes more sense to me, like, OK, aliens are from space

and they have to build super hyper technology. Ghosts are the remnants of who we used to live. But if you think about it logically, it doesn't make sense because the planet isn't in the same place. And okay, but then there's cryptids. Maybe they're just like, yeah, I'm with you. I've been on that train of thought for like for a long time of just maybe it's all just one thing. And we just don't fucking understand it because we're just unable to perceive it. Certainly, there is a lot to prove in that.

Right. Like, obviously, but as a reasonable, reasonable I'm gonna put this forward as a theory that we are then gonna try and like you know hypothesize like the whole thing seems just easier you know what I mean just seems an easier thing what is that like the easiest simplest answer is almost always the right one that's what I'm saying is it the easiest answer changes over time though is the thing that's the thing that's so why. As our understanding of science changes. And so if we don't understand what this is, then yeah, like we don't, there's no way for us to understand.

And especially if it is sitting on top of us or next to us or whatever. But because of how much we study space, because of how much we study the universe itself, we know the insane vast distances and the amount of technology and scientific understanding would take to even travel the stars. Yeah. It makes it seem easier if it was just, yeah, no, they, uh, they're from reality four and we're here in reality one and they come and say, hi everyone. So while, and uh, it's weird, we admit, but that's what it is.

It's just seems like an easier solution to the whole damn thing. I agree. I agree with you. And I think I would love that to be the answer because that just is so curious. I'd rather not know. I'd rather just get psychedelic doubt by everything. That's the vibe for me. Maybe it's what mushrooms do, dude. They open up the perception of the alien.

Maybe when your brain functions on a different wavelength, you see the other reality. Yeah, I know, dude. We can sit here and do this all fucking day long all right anyway I love that Jesse I love that you put that name you've come such a long way since we've been doing this show I believe it but I think it's my closest but your brain is there and your brain is actually actively the closest you've ever gotten it is yeah it is the closest Jesse's ever gone I'm gonna buy in that seems simple to me I don't think

about that I'm like okay that checks out That seems simple to me. I don't think about that. I'm like, OK, that checks out. Well, we'll be back next week with a brand new mini. So thank you guys for sticking around and supporting us for as long as you have. Hopefully, aliens show themselves eventually. Until then, I'll keep doing this frigging podcast. Goodbye, everybody. Bye.

Bless. Hello everybody, welcome back to the Jaluma Naughty Podcast. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin. Joined by the... I don't know who they are. There's two... What? Terrence Hill and Bud Spencer. No! Neo and Trinity.

No! I don't understand and I probably never will. Let me just tell you right now that there's two Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield telling you I think he literally just looked up famous duo's Cheech and Chow and has been going through the list ever since I'm trying to dig deep Which one of you is Dick Powell? Me?

Your name's Jesse Cox. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. I want your love, dear. I want my, my baby. I want your love, dear. I want my live without you I want my life without you I want to live without you I want to love you joined by Alex and Jesse.

Like a shooting star across the sky that's actually a UFO. Hello everybody welcome. It keeps getting worse. Not a fan. Would you rather me do that or would you rather hear about Unit 731 some more? I would rather you come in like, hello everybody, welcome back to the Patreon! I can't do that! I can't steal that, that's like your Cox and Crandoor opener, I can't steal that. Cox and Crandoor opener is gibberish.

I don't say actual words in that. You're just going to be like, hey, we're back! And people are like, yeah, that's it, we love that. I liked the episode, I thought it was really interesting. I could eliciticit them. Yeah, that's if you feel the same about the other ones We got like straight-up history channels. I'm here for that Really I really tried to make that one like yeah, I really want the facts I really want to make sure you're getting a good idea of who this guy is and the road that led us to I am not Disappointed anyone excellent. now makes me feel proud I got

the history teachers approval was always my favorite class in high school okay well all you got to do is remember history is more than just names and dates oh yeah exactly it's great stories okay who's gonna take this first should I start or should I have you guys start I have just like a weird, I don't think it's a headline making story. Weird me. All right. So here's what's up. Uh, we have, okay. So everybody knows who Jack the Ripper is. We haven't done an episode on him, really, but I will one day and it'll be a big series, but yeah, everybody knows basically white chapel London. Uh, there was like three years in the late 1800s where there was like a media

sensation about this dude, like the original murderer, like celebrity person, right? And we now know, we now have, we know that there is a facial likeness of Jack the Ripper that exists. And it's a likeness that is from the time of the murders. But it's, it still exists now. And there's a reason why you can't like solve the murder with it. Basically, this is from the end of last year and basically the College of Policing in England they put out a press release at the end of the year and they said that that they said that in 2015 the Bramshill Police Staff College closed and they had this walking cane that was that had the face of Jack the Ripper on it that was made from a composite drawing of Jack the Ripper from the time.

Wait, but a walking? But it's crafted onto a walking cane? Yeah, like the head of the cane looks like Jack the Ripper, but the cane has vanished. It was given to Chief Inspector Aberlein in 1888 at the conclusion of the White Chapel murders, based on his face, and a lot of the files were destroyed way before that in the Blitz, in World War II. And only, we only, and so that's why it's hard to know that much about what the police found when they investigated Jack the Ripper. And we only know some of the officers who did door-to-door stuff, talking to people, and there was like 300 suspects. They detained 80 of them. A huge investigation went underway.

And we know that Aberlein kind of like was kind of like an expert, kind of like a ringer, crime solver, Columbo-esque guy who came in and he became the highest guy at the criminal investigation department in Scotland Yard. So they were like, this guy's the guy, we're gonna bring him in. Obviously he did not do that,

but this was his gift for like doing, like being on the case. And we don't know how the cane was made, who made it, we don't know how the artist got a composite facial drawing of Jack the Ripper, because we lost those in the Blitz, but we know that Detective Inspector Aberlein retired in 1892, which was a little bit after Jack the Ripper, after 30 years, died in 1929. They put the cane in storage at Brams Hill Police Staff College, which opened in 1948 as the National Police College, the National Police Library and in 1960 when it moved from Riten on Dunsmore to Bramshill, it was there until that closed in 2015 and then they moved all the stuff in there back to Riten on Dunsmore to the College of Policing and when that last move happened, that's when we lost the cane.

We have a quote, it says, finding this cane was an exciting moment for us. Jack the Ripper is one of the biggest and most infamous murder cases in our history and his crimes were significant in paving the way for modern policing and forensics as it caused police to begin experimenting with and developing new techniques they can type because it was so popular yada yada yada it makes sense we don't know how the cane was found again but we do have a picture of the cane. So if you'd like to see a picture Yes, but Jack the Ripper yes rendered in wood I've got it here for you

And you tell me who you think Jack the Ripper might be or what he looks like what the hell I? mean It looks like a hooded man I mean, it looks like a hooded man. Just like an old, I'm not going to lie. He kind of has a little Voldemort, like a little bit of like he has more of a nose than Voldemort, but he's kind of like, I don't know. It has like snaky features and he's got like, like wrinkles and like jowls. Yeah, he looks like Emperor Palpatine. I, I, yeah, he does.

Yes. I'm kind of confused though, because I'm looking at this and it's saying that they found the cane. Like this, this article is about, look, we found this cane, uh, in like December of 2022. So I don't understand exactly how. I don't understand exactly how it's saying in this other article that it's missing now that I'm looking at it. Let me see what the hell. We lost the cane and then we have it now. I have no clue. I'm, I'm just so amazed. This thing looks nothing like what I would have thought it was like

Quasimodo. Yeah, the thing that's weird is that he has like a shawl over his head. Yeah, the top hat and like the cloak and the like the cane is he's like, I'm looking for prostitutes. Like there's a whole vibe that I think people have. It's not this. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the hell. I'm going to just say this. According to the College of Policing, they have the cane.

According to Mysterious Universe, slash, you know, whatever this weird website is that pulls this news from like this and also coast to coast or whatever the hell. I don't know who wrote this. I think maybe they got the fact wrong. But the idea is there is a likeness of Jack the Ripper from the time carved into a cane. And you've seen it now.

You stared into the face of Jack the Ripper. I feel like. Isn't there a theory that Jack the Ripper was not one man, but multiple? There's all kinds of possible. We'll talk about it one day. We'll talk. Somebody was talking about a podcast. I forget. Somebody I was talking to recently was talking about that.

They listen to a podcast that is similar to the Zodiac book that I read recently that was like everything that people know about this case is like a composite of actual information and like a hundred years of myth and legend and repeated stories. And so when people like conceptualize what this murder was, which I believe people think is just like a serial killer that killed hookers. You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that's what most people believe. Yeah, like there's a lot more to that murder.

And I forget the name of the podcast. I couldn't recommend it to you, but I would say that if you're interested in a very, very interesting sort of sociological, uh, and also just the details of the case are interesting and it's a disturbing case. Of course, Jack Thurpp is very interesting because everybody likes that he taunted the police maybe. Uh, but, but like just the, the, the Beatle mania of it all, like the, the, the ripper,

the, the ripper excitement is the thing that's really interesting about the case and it really distorted its like role in history and what people think of is the thing that's really interesting about the case, and it really distorted its like role in history and what people think of it. So that's kind of interesting to think about. Yeah, that's cool shit. All right, Jesse, what you got? Well, mine is a little poo poo downer for all the way people out there. But honestly, it's fascinating.

I've been thinking about it all week. On the 20th, a study was released that you know I'm not gonna spoil it I'll just a little just lose to this so you put it in Twitter for me already joking about you're good no I'm just I'll talk about it I think I know what you're about to talk about let's everyone out there especially if you're listening to this you know that there's been a lot of talk of ghosts and demons and aliens and paranormal activity, the afterlife, whatever, all of it. Right.

Uh huh. And we talk about it on this show frequently. I love what we do. Yeah. A number of studies have linked that maybe, you know, things like sleep paralysis, right? Or exploding head syndrome, which is a thing I didn't know, but now I know what it is and I'm like, I've had that.

Basically exploding head syndrome is when you're like about to fall asleep and you hear like a noise, like a, like a bang of some sort. Yeah. And then you wake up and you're like, cause that's someone in my home, but it's your brain. It's just your brain doing a thing. Right. Um, a recent study of 8,853 people. Um, they decided to do like a scientific approach about sleep quality and sleep cause association with paranormal beliefs. Yeah. I, yeah, I read this and how basically, you know, things extending from, uh, you know, sleep paralysis to

shadowy bedside figures, all like aliens, afterlife, you know, conspiracies, whatever. Basically what the study concludes is that people who do not get enough sleep, if you have really awful sleep cycles, if you sleep fewer than, If you have really awful sleep cycles, if you sleep fewer than, um, I think it's four hours, something like that. Basically, if you're not sleeping enough per night, and even if it's like you stay in bed for eight hours, we only sleep for four of those, that kind of thing. Like you are more likely to not only say you've experienced, but say you believe in these things. So they were saying that overall they found that such beliefs are more common among those

who get few hours of sleep at night, take longer to fall asleep, struggle with insomnia, or report low sleep efficiency. Most strikingly they found that around 2 thirds of those who experienced sleep paralysis or exploding head syndrome were convinced that aliens had already walked among us compared to just 3.4% of the total sample. Just under 60% of participants who had undergone sleep paralysis also said the thought of near death experiences to prove the soul that was on an afterlife. They were like totally down with that. And people who had big time sleep, uh, like issues were more likely to believe in the devil. The sleep paralysis involves several types of hallucinations, including auditory and visual exploding head syndrome is like a bang, right? Like I was

saying, uh, one explanation for these associations with all those other things because apparently sleep paralysis and exploding head they like that's proven those things happen and it isn't just like you being like paranoid that's it's the side be mind blown if sleep paralysis was not right right right that's very real I mean and so they're extrapolating from those two things like okay okay, where do we take it now? And so all the associations with those things and your mind producing sounds or images, one explanation that they have is that these associations are because you're not getting enough sleep.

And all of this belief in aliens and supernatural stuff, it might be happening. Who knows? But you're more likely to believe and jump head first into that world. If you don't get enough sleep is what they're saying. You know, I wasn't going to say anything, but I do. I don't really sleep very much. So I don't know what that means. I don't know if that's why the key lime pie episode happened, but I don't sleep very well. I sleep fine and I believe in aliens. All right. All right. Yeah. I think it's about curiosity and like, I think what they're saying is people are more inclined to jump to conclusions about things and be more open to paranoid kind of things.

Cause like I'm fine believing in aliens, but I'm not like they're walking amongst us and they've taken over the halls of government. Like I don't, even if they did, I'd be like, they're doing it. Yeah, they're doing a terrible, terrible job. I'll take it taken over the halls of government. Like I don't even think did I do it. Oh, yeah. They're doing a terrible, terrible job. I'll take it up with the aliens. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. Interesting article. I'm here to bring the belief back up, Jesse. Oh, damn. I got two things. First is a very quick video.

This is a video proof of an Indonesian ghost showing like spawning, essentially like arriving and leaving. I'm going to send it via Twitter because I don't want to click on Zoom because Zoom keeps crashing on me. Proof of an Indonesian ghost. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. I think I times I sent it with the different things in the past. Alex that were like, all right, it's going to start to be the one fast

forward to 10, fast forward to 10 seconds. I don't like how this video starts with a cough that is scary. And that kind of got me. Well, just start start at 10 seconds and start there. I don't like how this video starts with a cough that is scary. That cough got me. I have it muted. Just start at 10 seconds for me. Okay. I'm there.

I'm at 10 seconds. What am I looking for? Watch. Watch this thing appear. Oh. What? Did you see it? No, I'm watching it.

Hang on. Yeah. It's like it just jumps into the fucking... Yeah, it just fucking appears. It's like... It's like that kid. And then it disappears the same way at the end of its walk That's not a cut Not according to the claim a claim. This is no cut here

This is on a news channel. I'm a rujala Don't want to watch it disappear Yeah, watch it disappear. It walks all the way to the end. Yep, and then Almost there. Oh, it's gone. Yep. There it goes. Bye bye. Anyway, that's proof of ghosts. All right. If that didn't convince you, this next thing that I have actually is going to convince you. Okay. I'm I'm more I don't know if you guys see it this week. There was a video of it's like a like a dude going past a deer on the highway and it's like a mom deer and then like another deer comes out of the forest and then as they drive past the deer is just

A third deer there for some reason it just Appeared like pops into existence and I've watched it maybe 50 times trying to be like, okay It's the frame like the angle and I cannot figure out the magic trick that this video is a deer a third deer just shows up and it's like how so you know imagine if that's how ghosts really did show up oh hey is there something that I'm looking for do you say you had something else to show me? Yeah, I got something else for you guys. Oh, I sent you, I sent you guys a text, uh, about it earlier today or yesterday. Uh, you know, I send you a lot of alien stuff, but, uh, this is the one that, that, uh,

so, uh, if you don't know what this is, I just need to stress out of the blue at like 10 PM. Oh yeah. This will find a thing and just start sending us Oh, he'll like go off be like look at this Look what they're doing Crazy it's just spirited. Thank you. Exactly. Yeah energized energized So this photo that we're looking at here that that was recently released just a couple of days ago is a photo that was released by Jeremy Corbel and of course, coast to coast George Knapp. The Jeremy Corbel, if that name sounds familiar, he is one of the primary dudes behind getting all those UFO videos in 2017, the FLIR videos and all that.

and all that. Hey, and to the stars Academy, they were like jointly responsible for that. He's the one that found the pilot that had it. This instance, he brought them on like, I don't like Jeremy Corbel, but he's one of the only ones out there that's actually getting shit done in this fear. Uh, and to celebrate a conjunction podcast between George Knapp and Jeremy Corbel called weaponized, they released this photo, uh, as well. And according to Corbel called weaponized. They released this photo as well. And according to Corbel, this is an example of the UFOs that our military and intelligence community are looking at. This is the kind of quality of thing they're looking at. So this is covered by TMZ coast to coast and New York post. All the, all the best, all the best ones. It does look good. It does look good.

It does look good. What this is supposedly is, is a, still a frame from a 2016, April of 2016 spy plane that was flying over the Iraqi city of Mosul. And there's a video of this smooth metallic orb that goes by them. Like it's like flies by. What we have is just a frame of this supposed video. The only reason I give this weight is because Jeremy Corbell said the same thing prior. And then he came out with the goods and then the government

acknowledged it. I'm hoping this is a similar thing. Um, they, what you're looking at. Yeah. How about you boys explain what this is a photo? It's like a street, like in an isometric view. Yeah. You can see like the sidewalk and the street and you can see like the tops of trees and then you can see, I mean, I don't know how high up this thing is the camera. It looks like it's pretty high up. I would say, you know, I don't know about it. I would say hundreds of feet up. I would guess. And it seems that it's like a marker. The bottom is a 720 feet. And it's hard to tell. And much like much like if you were filming something on the ground while standing and a fly flew in between you and the ground and was in between you and the camp, like the floor of the camera, very similar to that situation. It seems to be closer to the camera than what's below it by a lot. Some, some sort of it was down on the ground. It would be, it would be huge. Yeah, it by a lot. Some, some sort of, if it was down on the ground,

it would be huge. Yeah. It would be enormous. It looks like if it was down there, it looked like it would be maybe, uh, I mean, I'm looking at a small picture, but I would guess that it's like 40 feet wide. The ball that chase Indiana Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's about right. That's actually good. 40 feet around. 40 Indiana Jones? Yeah. Yeah, that's about right. That's actually good Yeah, that's a way to look at it 40 feet around. Yeah, and It's it's yeah, it looks like a big like just smooth shiny metal orb Yeah, the video according to Corbel is about four seconds long and the video itself is of the metallic ball thing

That's running alongside the spy plane. And it's shown moving beside the plane without dropping altitude at all. And this was apparently, this footage was included in the classified briefing that Congress got after the public briefing. Do you remember the public briefing, which was a bunch of very little,

and then they went behind closed doors and they got a private briefing? This apparently was part of that. It was dubbed the Mosul Orb and is believed to have been under some kind of intelligent control when it was caught on film. That's all we really have of it right now. I'm hoping this thing gets fucking,

the video would be released. That would be amazing if we could see this thing for four seconds. It's a military filmed image of a UA, it's important, Corbel says a UA. This is the, it's important, Corbel says is because this is the first time that a military filmed image of a UAP over an active conflict zone has been grabbed, I guess.

They have lots of incursions over training ranges and stuff, but this is an active conflict zone in 2016. And that's kind of what we're left with. We have this weird orb coming from somebody that like it or not has produced goods in the past. And I don't know what to think of it. Yeah. It sucks that he's using it as part of promo for his podcast, because that's going to make people immediately be like, well he's trying to make money. But at the same time, like,

I can't say I wouldn't do the same. Imagine if there weren't colleges or organizations willing to fund you, what would you do to get money? Right. It literally like you need to get money. People don't think about like, if you want to do these things, that's why to the stars Academy is like kind of, it's like one of those things. Like I hate it because of what it's doing. But at the same time, there's, how else are they going to get money to do the crazy shit that they want to do?

Man. Yeah. The very fact that they're like, yeah, it sucks. Build stuff on social media and stuff like that as their strategy for getting info out there is so suss, but there's not another option. Exactly. Like that's all they, that's all, it sucks. Exactly is all I can say.

It's, it just make, it's another thing muddying the waters of UAP interest in whatnot, taking the real from the fake. I don't know. What do you think of the photo, Jesse? It just make it's it's another thing muddying the waters of UAP interest in what not thinking the real from the fake. I don't know. What do you think of the photo, Jesse? I mean, you know what I think. I don't know.

You tell me do you think it's a real photo? Do you think it's real? I guess. Do you think it's an actual photo from a four second clip that was given to Congress? Do I think it's a photo of a clip that was given to Congress? Sure. Do I think it's a photo of a clip that was given to Congress? Sure. Do I think it's real? That's a different story. Do I think someone put this in a thing to give to Congress? Yeah, probably.

So you don't think if it was given to Congress, you think it was slipped in as misinformation? That's I don't know about that. Would you say that any lie is misinformation or any any false fact fact is inferred? Like something that turns out to be false is misinformation. I mean, look, we, I've discovered that we live in a world where people are hesitant to call anything lies now because it's too hard of a word. They're like, he misspoke, or, you know, it was a variation on the truth. Like, you know, let me ask you this question with this photo.

Do you think this came from a video that was captured by an actual spy plane? Do you think this is actual footage from a spy plane that I don't believe that? I don't believe actual spy spy plane took this. No, you're supposed to be 2017. Yeah, this is a US spy plane that caught this. Spype.

Although you know what? Sure. It could be a spy. I'm just saying that the photo itself is unimpressive. Sure. I think it's so to me. It doesn't matter either way how it was caught because it's still interpretive. What did you quietly say just now? I think it's impressive.

It looks pretty not that fake. I don't know about spy plane. Well, if it's a clip from a video, then it looks like garbage, kind of, I think. Well, the military uses a lot of drones. You know what I mean? And you're looking at, I mean, I can see at the top of this article,

the TMZ article where they show the full image, that it looks to be the full frame. You know what I'm saying? Like it doesn it, it, like, it doesn't look like we're missing the, any of the UI there. Yeah. It just looks, I wouldn't, I mean, unless the government, what if the government comes out much like didn't 2017 Jesse and they're like, yeah, okay, fine. This is real. I mean, if they said it's real, I'd be like real what, you know what I mean? Like, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm not going to dispute because you know it has numbers and stuff all over the screen, and it could be a spy plane

Yeah, but that's easily faked a hundred percent a hundred percent. That's easily faked It could be a spy plane, but what it is is it's a grainy ass photo Taken very high up and then like a thing It just proportionally unless they're trying to tell me like the aliens are like men in black, tiny baby aliens, proportionally, this thing's very small. And if it's huge, that means it's further away. But if it's further away, that means based on the fact that it's taking a photo of a

street, it would have to be rolling down the street, like the ball from Indiana Jones. Like it's trying to figure out like, cause the numbers on the screen, I'm, we have people in the military that, uh, active and inactive that listen so they can probably look at this photo and let us know what we're looking at. If it's even like, if it's faked, if it's faked well, cause it looks like LSE armed, it looks like missiles or like weapons that are armed is like 19,000 feet number Ace Combat and steal the screen. Oh, yeah. Yeah Be the same I again it to me. It doesn't matter

You know asking do you think this is a real photo from it could be a real photo and it doesn't matter because what it is Is the thing that I'm like that's not That's just like an artifact or ball or I mean smooth metallic orbs are very very common UFO sighting So, you know, I I'm curious it reads as definitely not an insect which I like Yes, it's not a bug in your camera. I'll give you that All right. Well, that's where we're gonna leave it off everybody. Thank you guys so much for your support here on patreon We'll be back next week with another mini So maybe next week the government will be like hey, that's a real video and we'll have this conversation again

Do you think it's on the I'm sorry? No, I'm just looking at it again. It looks like there's light reflection. Yeah, it looks like do you think it's something on the ground? Cuz the it has the exact same color as the sides of the streets would look a little wet Maybe it's something like a tarp or something and I would I would say yes, but if all we get is this photo, yeah, that could be it. But if we get the video of this thing following the plane that is supposed to that would they have a different story, but we don't have that's a different story.

Correct. Yeah. I'd love to see this in motion. I want to see it in motion too. I would I agree with Jesse. Like if all we get is this and we never get the video, then yeah, this could be a big fucking like tarp on the ground. That's just damp in a corner or a big balloon or something. That's like catching the light weird. Yeah. Yeah. Who knows?

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