Chilluminati Podcast - Minisode Compilation 36

Episode Date: June 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ["Sweet Home Alone"] I Know I could see him at home, but Mathis I think his microphone was in a different position because he lunged forward to do that. I did I lunge forward at it It's crazy Okay Welcome back to Minnesota Okay. Welcome back to Minnesota 121. You don't even know anymore. You're not even counting. I don't know anymore. 169. We're here. Not yet. We're not there yet. I'll know that. Okay. I'll know. Okay. Bye Oliver. Okay. Hey boys. Welcome to Minnesota. We're going to do something a little more
Starting point is 00:00:58 lighthearted than the main episode. Not that much more lighthearted though. Oh, okay. What do you got? Well, this is interesting. Okay, so last August, in Ingolstadt, Germany, there was a body of a young lady found in a Mercedes. And this victim was identified as Sharaban K. She's like an Iraqi-German person from Munich, 23 years old, she's a beautician. And her family identified the body and everything, but the next day there was an autopsy
Starting point is 00:01:34 and it turned out that it wasn't Sharaban K, but was actually this other person named Khadija Oh, who's an Algerian beauty blogger from like a state over who's also 23 years old. They both have long black straight hair. They have really similar complexion. They both wear similar makeup. They looked strike quote strikingly alike, according to the police. And so because of that, the German press has started calling this murder the Doppelganger murder. And basically, this girl, Charabon, and her friend were detained in August, and the authorities didn't talk about why until this week.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And this story is from The Guardian on Monday. Where is this going? And basically. They say that this woman, Sharaban, contacted several women who looked like her on social media under numerous aliases in the week before the murder, trying to like lure them to meetings. And finally, this girl Khadija agreed to meet and they said murder, trying to like lure them to meetings. And finally this girl Khadija O agreed to meet and they said it was like a cosmetic
Starting point is 00:02:51 brand deal or something like that and so she went to go get it. And they picked her up from her apartment and murdered her in the woods and stabbed her 50 times in the face to mess up her face so that... That doesn't look like her? Yep. Whoa, god damn. Then they took her into the back seat of their car, drove her to Inglestadt, parked the body in her car,
Starting point is 00:03:17 and then her parents found it after looking for her. And they issued arrest warrants this week and they face life sentences. Apparently there was some sort of family drama and she wanted to fake her death for some reason to get out of. So she went to go look for wow dude. She like found someone who looked like her enough that her own family identified her as their relative. In order to escape whatever trauma was in the family. So that her family would like think she was dead and get on with it.
Starting point is 00:03:54 My God. That is no joke. Look for it on next season's Law and Order. That's a Columbo. Yeah, that is. That's like TV. That's crazy not now anytime anyone asks you like you know there's a like a doppelganger for every person on
Starting point is 00:04:12 earth out there now you know to be worried that person's gonna kill you I'm already creeped out by the doppelgangers yeah no shit I'm already creeped out by the doppelgangers yeah I know me nobody should look that much like me already I got a lot I got a lot of Jesse Cox doppelgangers. Yeah, I know me too. Nobody should look that much like me already. I got a lot. I got a lot of Jesse Cox doppelgangers. There's many of us out there. Can you lighten the mood for us, Jesse? Me, can I lighten the mood?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Mine isn't mood lightning, but it certainly is a different mood. This is from, I saw this on Yahoo News via the Daily Beast. More, actually it's why more physicists are starting to think space and time are illusions and I'm just going to straight up. I'm just going to straight up read. I clipped out some sections of the of the article because it was really good and I don't want to yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Hell, yes. This past December the physics Nobel Prize was awarded for experimental confirmation of a quantum phenomenon known for more than 80 years, entanglement. As envisioned by Albert Einstein and his collaborators in 1935, quantum objects can be mysteriously correlated even when they are separated by large distances, but as weird as the phenomenon appears, why is such an old idea winning the most prestigious prize in physics? Entanglement applies to objects comprising two or more components and describes what
Starting point is 00:05:38 happens when the quantum principle that everything that can happen actually happens is applied to such composed objects. Accordingly, an entangled state is the superposition of all possible combinations that the components of a composed object can be in to produce the same overall result. Yeah, like qubits, I think is what they're called, Q-U-B-I-T-S, and like the ones we know of, electrons, positrons, can hold like one of two states, but these quantum entangled ones hold all eight states
Starting point is 00:06:13 at all times, period, which makes no sense if you think time is real. Right, it is again a wavy nature of the quantum domain that can help to illustrate how entanglement actually works and they give a pretty good example. Picture a perfectly calm glassy sea on a windless day. Now ask yourself how can such a plane be produced by overlaying two individual wave patterns? Right? One possibility is that superimposing two completely flat surfaces will again give you this outcome right? But
Starting point is 00:06:46 another is if you have two wave patterns and then you shift them by half an oscillation cycle where they are superimposed on one another the wave crests of one pattern annihilate the wave through another and it looks like a glassy flat ocean right? If we just observe the glassy ocean regarding it as the result of two swells combined there would be no way for us to find out about the patterns of the individual swells. What sounds perfectly ordinary, we talk about waves, has the most bizarre consequences when applied to competing realities. If your neighbor told you she has two cats, one live and one dead, this would imply that either the first cat or the second one is dead and that the remaining cat respectively is alive. It would be a strange
Starting point is 00:07:36 and morbid way to describe one's pets and you may not know which of them is the lucky one but at least you would get the neighbors drift. Not so for the quantum world. In quantum mechanics like Mathis was saying the very same statement implies that the two cats are merged in a superposition of cases including the first cat being alive and the second one being dead, the first cat being dead while the other one lives but also both cats are half alive and half dead, or the first cat is one third alive and the second feline adds the missing two thirds of life.
Starting point is 00:08:10 In a quantum pair of cats, the fates and conditions of the individual animals get dissolved entirely in the state of the whole. Likewise, in quantum universe, there are no individual objects. Everything that exists, exists as a single one. Which builds into the idea that we might all be one fucking consciousness experiencing this version of reality, which is a physical 3D version, the only version we can experience, while other versions are happening at all times on top of us. I mean, like, yeah, not to hype up dead space more, but that is kind of a plot
Starting point is 00:08:50 in dead space as well. Like, you know, I didn't even, this wasn't even my article, but I was reading another article that because of this discovery, they're talking about, well, maybe we're not, we're not seeing any alien communication because they're using quantum entanglement communication and they have quibits basically in different points of space because when you change the very when you change one qubit the identical one also changes right so they can use that to communicate I think Mass Effect does uses that own version of like quantum
Starting point is 00:09:20 it's like the idea of taking a wormhole, but instead of that, it's like, oh, we just recognize that, you know, it's like butterfly effecty. Like everything is connected. Everything connects something across the, you know, but there's some sort of fundamental relationship between. And so they go on to say that quantum entanglement reveals to us a vast and entirely new territory to explore. It defines a new foundation of science and turns our quest for a theory of everything upside down to build a quantum cosmology rather than particle physics or string theory.
Starting point is 00:09:59 But you know, how realistic is it for physicists to pursue the approach? Surprisingly, it's not just realistic they're doing it right now. Researchers at the forefront of quantum gravity have started to rethink space and time as a consequence of entanglement and they end with saying, the common thread now seems to be that space and time are not considered fundamental anymore. Contemporary physics does not start with space and time to continue with things placed in its pre-existing background. Instead, space and time themselves are considered products of more fundamental projector reality. Nathan Seiberg, a leading string theorist at the
Starting point is 00:10:36 Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton, is not alone in his sentiment when he states, I'm almost certain that space and time are illusions. These are primitive notions that will be replaced by something more sophisticated. Moreover, in most scenarios proposing emergent space-times, entanglement plays the fundamental role. As philosopher of science Rasmus Jaxlund points out, this eventually implies that there is no individual objects in the universe anymore, that everything is connected to everything else. Adopting entanglement as a world making relation comes at the price of giving up separability, but those who are ready to take this step should perhaps look to entanglement for the fundamental relation with which the,
Starting point is 00:11:23 you know, all of our world is constituted and perhaps all other worlds. Thus, when space and time disappear, a unified one emerges. Now, imagine when we can get to a point in the future where we can actually manipulate things on a quantum level and what that means before you become God math. It's just like for a moment. I don't even care about that. But I'm saying like the concept of once you get past like space and time being a thing and like how we all are actually just like super hyper connected and then you like, that's like some singularity shit. That's like, we realize, Oh wait, maybe we shouldn't just be terrible to each other because we're all the same
Starting point is 00:12:03 person. Like we're all each other. What if you like the theory that what if we're just a consciousness experiencing itself on a fundamental like physical plane? Maybe it implies that like reality itself could be any version of things and we're just stuck in this version of physical reality. With all the people in the head inside inside out inside that movie. Yeah. What if we're all just head people, right? I mean, yeah. Like a big cosmic brain. We're all just in some weird.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah. They're also like the idea that this is real, that like this quantum thing that we're oneness is real. It also plays into what we talked about last week on the mini-sode that you brought up, Jessie, that like, what if all these weird phenomena, all one thing, what if it's all part of this just giant existence of reality and reality just has different levels? Again, it makes it easier. It like you always try to look for the simplest explanation because usually it's correct. And it just makes it easier to be like, what if all the things we're seeing is just like the reality on top of us?
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, just melding in. And that's it. It's that simple. reality on top of us. Yeah. Just melding in and that's it. It's that simple. It's like that. We are truly connected to everything. It also would play the idea that they use us to come into our reality because we're all they're manipulating some things on a quantum level.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Positively horrifying. I love that shit. I'm so exciting. Yeah, I don't think that's like scary. I think that's amazing. I love the idea. This is the problem. This is why I'd be I'd be super dead in dead space.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I'd be a cultist. 100% sure. The idea of it. I'm fascinated. I'd be like, I have to know more. I have to know, like take me down this and then they get, then I'm dead. I'm a necromorph. But if it means like if time and space don't exist, do we, you know, that leads, okay, are we everything happening all at once at all times? Do we go through this experience endlessly? Then are we ourselves? Endlessly? Maybe. I mean like maybe life literally is you consistently just exist in this one reality over, over, like who knows? I mean, again, yeah, there is no fucking humbling like time and space,
Starting point is 00:14:03 time and space isn't a thing. It's just, it doesn't, it doesn't, it's not real. Everything is entropy. We judge everything by the fact that everything decays and goes away. It's, it's the like a core concept that's hard to time. Yeah. But in space is so interesting in that it's not that planets are far away from each other. It's that space in between is growing and getting bigger. And it's not, and it's not the same, you know, it's like, it's different. It's like, how do you, how do you even,
Starting point is 00:14:29 it's also trying to discover what that space like space is filled with something. I'm going to go take some mushrooms after this. I think we don't know what it like. We don't know what we call stuff dark matter because we just don't like, we don't know what it is. And we in 95% of the universe is supposed to consist of dark matter. Yeah, okay. All right. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I love it. I love it. That hypes me up so much. I love this shit so much. All right, boys. We'll wrap up with Bigfoot watch. Here we go. New photo of Bigfoot surfaces from somewhere in Washington.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I'm going to go ahead and link you the video. It should be time stamped. I can't wait for this. Here you go. It's just going to be a guy talking on a bad microphone. You can mute it. He's talking about it, but that's the picture that comes from a guy who was pretty good. He was fishing on a boat and he saw it on like across the river.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And so he snapped a picture of it as fast as he could. And that's the evidence that this photo comes from. It kind of gives me Patterson Giblin vibes a little bit. A little bit like monkey face on there though. Yeah, no video of it. Unfortunately, just this photo of it. And as always, it's not a phenomenal looking photo. It's not exactly of all the things like of all the And as always, it's not a phenomenal looking photo. It's not exactly
Starting point is 00:15:45 of all the things like of all the manmade costumes, I would say it's the most like high quality movie. Well, I like love the looks like, yeah, it looks like very much like what if we all just like made one, if like the thing about like you believe in something and it exists, then like it's real. Yeah, Like that is the vibe of this, of this big foot. It's like very like generic big foot, big foot. It's the zeitgeist big foot. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of info on it is a, this photo of this dark figure that's looming toward the camera, uh, is difficult to discern facial features, but the man Ron, who provided the photo, did not provide any additional details about the sighting, though we claim to have heard mysterious tree knocks as well as eerie talking that he explained sounded like gibberish during
Starting point is 00:16:32 his visit in the area. And some have suggested the oddity in the picture could be Sasquatch, maybe of the juvenile variety. However, more skeptical observers argued that the photo was either well-crafted hoax or simply a trick of the light and shadow My favorite part is that if you if you look at it, it kind of has like a dr. Zayas face It has a little bit of power. Yeah Mickey Mouse face vibe
Starting point is 00:17:00 Because I probably will forget to put the link all you gotta got to do is Google Bigfoot photographed in Washington state. It should pop up. It's from January 13th. You can go to Coast to Coast to find it if you want to, which is where I get a lot of my Bigfoot sighting. Well, of course you do. Sick. I like this photo. I wish there was more to it. I wish we had more detail. The fact that he wasn't he didn't provide any more context makes me feel iffy.
Starting point is 00:17:22 But like like Jesse said, if if this this is a costume it's a good costume. It's a very good costume. Yeah yeah yeah that's it for us it's an actual mini-sode today under 20 minutes we did it boys we actually created a mini-sode not really just like a half episode. We'll be back next week with yet another mini-sode thank you guys for your support here on Patreon we'll be able to do this without you and we'll see you next time goodbye. Thank you for it. Thank you so much to IQ Bar for sponsoring today's episode. And as the years have gone on, while I've done more and more of Jaluminati
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Starting point is 00:20:08 I had, today's been a weird day, man. It's too late. The UFO's got in my goddamn brain and ate my brain alive. What a normal episode this will turn out to be. God damn it. Hello my little Chaluminots. This will turn out to be There it is that's new that's the new version sucks dude, we're just moved on we didn't need it Hey guys, we talked about aliens in the main episode, uh, I'm to talk a little bit more about them right now.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Me too. Well, let's call it a little bow because I'm just reading this right now. I didn't realize something I didn't realize is that the new broader task force that deals with the UFOs and UAPs and they are and all that shit that was formed Monday. That was formed at the end of the press briefing after the first UFO was shot down So what the fuck like what the fuck? At the press briefing on Monday Kirby announced the formation of a new task force which will quote study the broader policy implications for detection analysis and disposition of UAP That oppose either safety or security risks. Just give it that was announced on Monday Just give it the government will redouble on Monday. Just give it the time that it needs.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Every element of the government will redouble their efforts to understand and mitigate these events. The forthcoming UAP team will reportedly consist of representatives from an array of government agencies including the FAA, Homeland Security and Department of Defense. This seems good to me. So that's new. Yeah. That was on Monday.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That was made on Monday. That is good. It's just like, again, what they say publicly and then what they do by passing laws and committees. You're right. And nobody talks about just don't coalesce. Anyway, I'm going to say what I said. I'm going to say what I said last time, you know, which is just like the victory is that they did make a committee. Like, you know, they
Starting point is 00:22:01 saw the thing and then they went, let's make a committee. So they did. You know, that's good. Let's let uh, let's future proof this as well. Hi everyone. This is Jesse from the past. You're listening to this and you're not on patron. First off, shame on you. Shame on you. But second off, what math is, is talking about. Remember that time where there were like balloon things, but weren't balloon things and they flew over the U S and we all forgot about it by now. Cause it's probably, I don't know, December, 2024. When you're listening to this, we're already probably part octopus man. Now we're probably full alien.
Starting point is 00:22:32 We are all mindless cultists. Yeah. Uh, so just letting you know, that's what that was about. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. But now the government has, has formed a story. I'm sure it's balloons, drones, or everybody just forgot about it. And it was never talked about. War with China. You never know. Yeah, this is the last thing you hear before the aliens really did take over.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And this is like a bootleg podcast and it's really funny. Well, to you now told you so funny because we're slaying. Let me give you this from a Hill article just an hour ago. Alex. Okay, on Tuesday, Kirby said there have been no indications thus far that the three objects shot down over the weekend were connected to a broader Chinese spy balloon program. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Or that they were connected to a foreign intelligence gathering effort. Right. Mm, 100%. But well, there's no connection. So that leaves. It seems like the reason is because they haven't seen that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Trash, private, or something else. It just seems like the reason is they don't have the shit. But also they can't get the debris because the debris were shot down in unfavorable weather conditions. That's rough when that happens. You know, all three of them. Bad weather, man. Bad weather. We couldn't get them. The weather was bad. It's been bad. It'll forever be bad. That's such a bummer when that goes down like that, isn't it? It just doesn't help any rough nuts rough nuts
Starting point is 00:23:49 Take it away for please just take I got you dude. I'm gonna. I want to do aliens, too Mine is also about a former episode as well And it is super interesting because I want to talk about the Fermi paradox once more yeah Because we have an update about the Fermi paradox once more. Yeah, because we have an update. Although this has been sitting on my computer for some time, I figured now would be a great time to talk about it. I love saving up articles just in case this one's from December, 2022. It is from the Astrophysical Journal. And if you want to go look it up. You can literally download the, it is a real ass study thing. Abstract. It has the whole deal, uh, like college paper. It has a 112,000 downloads already. You can
Starting point is 00:24:36 download it yourself. Just either go to astrophysics, a physical journal. And then the title is the Fermi paradox revisited techno signatures and the contact era. I'm not going to go over the whole thing because thank God if you are a big old college nerd like me you know that writing abstract saves everyone a hell of a lot of time so I'm just gonna read the abstract and give you an idea because it's fascinating and it totally hits on more Fermi paradox stuff which everyone had a lot to say about so from that episode this is a new theory of the Fermi Paradox and it's fascinating and I love it because it makes total sense to me.
Starting point is 00:25:13 A new solution to the Fermi Paradox is presented. Probes or visits from punitive alien civilizations have a very low probability until a civilization reaches a certain age called the contact era after the onset of radio communications. If biotic planets are common like plants where you know, there's civilizations, right? They may send probes not to any planet willy nilly, but those that have techno signatures, not just biosignatures, right? Such as radio broadcasts, right? The contact is defined. Yeah. The contact probability is defined as the chance to find a nearby civilization located close enough so that it could have detected the earliest radio
Starting point is 00:25:58 transmissions or the radio sphere. So if you imagine we're broadcasting into space, like the first transmissions into space, they're still floating out there. They're degrading over time, but they're like, there's a bubble around Earth of how far out those radio waves have gone that they possibly could be by now. Right at this moment. Yeah, because it's still going the speed of sound radio. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Radio wavelength, whatever that is.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Thankfully, this article, it has a lot of cool graphs involved with it. That's pretty neat. Since the radiosphere expands with time, so does contact probability. The contact era is defined as the time since the onset of radio transmissions at which the contact probability becomes becomes of order unity at that time alien probes or messages become more likely unless civilizations are highly abundant in the cosmos the contact era is shown to be of the order of a few hundred to a few thousand years and may be applied not only to physical probes, but also transmissions, i.e. us blasting shit into space trying to find aliens or them doing it back. Consequently,
Starting point is 00:27:12 it is shown that civilizations are unlikely to be able to intercommunicate unless they have communicative lifetime of say a few thousand years. So the Fermi paradox in this case is saying the reason why we don't see people all the time is because we only started broadcasting our technological status in the 40s. Yeah, not that long. It will require not long at all. It will require thousands, hundreds of thousands of years
Starting point is 00:27:38 for our signatures to hit anyone and them to be like, oh, damn, there's someone over there. So we're still big directly at us. Yeah. According to babies in the universe. There's on on that too. Talking about the quantum entanglement from last week. Who's to say that that's they even use radio waves anymore.
Starting point is 00:27:54 What if they figured out like ways to communicate? Yeah. Radio. Those are even looking for that shit. Yeah, like that might just be useless radio waves are like litter space from all these radio intelligence pieces that never make it past that. Just in space, like songs give off weird waves of stuff. And so yeah, and that's what they're
Starting point is 00:28:12 saying with this article that like, look, it may, there may be plenty of people out there, but no one's ever going to come in contact with us because we literally just stepped out onto the galactic stage. Yeah, we just started. Makes sense to me. Fascinating. It brings me a lot less. Yeah, it's a lot less creepy and weird and sad and more just like, yo, we're space babies. Anything anti Borg I'm into.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It's true, man. Honestly, what's interesting to think about too is like, we've known quantum states existed since the late 1800s. I think the slit experiment was the first thing that kind of proved there was quantum, a quantum state, uh, where if you don't know what that is, it basically proves that light is both a wave and particles simultaneously, which shouldn't be, but is, uh, that being said, um, the thing about how fast we went from radio in the forties to not only
Starting point is 00:29:04 realizing quantum as an existence, but the most recent thing that you talked about, the engineering breakthrough of practically using quantum entanglement, being able to actually harness it in a way that's useful. Actually, yeah, something. Now, what is that gonna mean? Again, why is, you know, that's,
Starting point is 00:29:20 I wish was being talked about more, but like, But that also is the thing we talked about before. I love how in the end it all kind of connects in science, which is why I love science. about more, but like, but that also was the thing we talked about before. I love how in the end, it all kind of connects in science, which is why it does. But the idea of, they talk about, you know, when other species, or even us when we're looking for other people out there, by the time we create one probe and send it out, we will have technologically advanced so much that the next probe we send out
Starting point is 00:29:43 will get there faster than the first probe we sent out. Which is wild to think about. If we ever figure out how to use quantum entanglement for communications and entangling two atoms from huge distances, we'll be past our radio waves before they even reach where we're communicating with. It's like nothing we've done even really matters yet. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:00 If it's like, oh, it'll take a hundred thousand years to reach the nearest settled civilized world. We could straight up teleport there. Like a hundred thousand years. Who knows where we'll be. It may be gone by then, which is even like darker to think about. Like if we got a signal from a planet that was like, Oh, we welcome you to the galactic civilization. Please use these things to come to our world. Like a contact or something. Yeah. And then we go there and they're just gone because it's just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You did. Oh yeah. That shit is fascinating. But it's also absolutely true. All three things come together and kind of like welcome to science and space baby.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Welcome to science and space, baby. I love it. I mean, that's the next great. That's the next great frontier for science is the quantum state and understanding what it means when all things are connected at all times and all things exist in all states all the time simultaneously, which doesn't make any sense to the way we live. Brain rending. Yeah, yeah, I love that. It's like give you a universal comfort of if we're all everything,
Starting point is 00:31:05 then like there's no real difference at the end of the day between any of us. And we should be a life and death to everyone else. Or time and space. Yeah. Like we're all existing at the same time. Like Julius Caesar and I exist at the exact same moment. We're basically fucking right now. I mean, if you think, it's think, I mean, it's true though, because time and with this, like engineering quantum entanglement thing
Starting point is 00:31:29 that we talked about that it really, it's more evidence that time and space aren't real. It's just how we perceive our reality. Like our life is made up of an infinite number of still moments that our brain interprets as smooth motion. There's an interpolation for our own brain. Yeah. And that if this all happens, it means we've done this boys, we've had this conversation infinite times and we'll have it infinite more times. Do you think the first time you messed up the intro as well or is that I think that's permanent all the way through or, or what if,
Starting point is 00:31:58 what if we live through this similar life every time, but because quantum states can exist in all, all existences at all times, we do have slight differences in our choices and that makes it different. But then that would be a different universe, wouldn't it? That wouldn't be the universe we live in. Yeah. Would you still be yourself? Yeah. Different choices change who you are. The hyper crisis. It is cool how all of this shit from UFOs that we talk about to the insanity, all the way to quantum science, all fucking canal fiction reality. No difference. Like we said a few weeks back, if there was just one unified, can we be the group that comes up with a unifying theory of any podcast? Like just if everything everybody's
Starting point is 00:32:36 a chelum or not. Yeah. If everything was under one roof, you said aliens ghosts. It's all part of the same quantum entanglement thing. The unified paranormal theory. That would simplify stuff so much. It would just be so much easier to grasp. Here's the thing. That's not a new theory. That's out there in the world. But it's not like a popular one.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But it's like, be pood. Yeah, I'm saying no. Yeah, because it's based on some science that we... Again, it's like, people want magic. That's so much cooler if UFOs and ghosts are real, but they're real because reality isn't reality. Isn't mad. That shit's magic as hell. Like there's real.
Starting point is 00:33:11 There is real as comic books. Yeah, it's nuts. I mean, it's crazy. It makes you think how alive are the dwarves in door fortress? You know what I mean? 100% alive. Totally. Again, according to Matt, the truth of the universe. When you turn on a light in a video game, it's using electricity. Just like a light in real life. Just like, think about it, man. When the AI is making half of the time, the other half of the time they're breathing in man. I'm crazy. Oh man. I love this shit. No, it does bring me comfort though. Like I I know some people it's like existential dread, but honestly it makes everything. It almost makes
Starting point is 00:33:48 everything make sense. It's like this unifying truth of just this is it man. And you're going to get to do this probably either infinite number of times or you only get to do this once, but you're everything's everything's connected. You're never really gone. It is like borderline the force. It's like every Final Fantasy games and where it's like the live stream. It's like it's in our soul. It's pretty chill. It's you just know, I want to quote a commenter that on the YouTube video goes, uh, basically he's like, I hate all this quantum shit. All you're saying is stuff that people who ate mushrooms in the seventies figured
Starting point is 00:34:24 out a long time ago and it just sounds stupid and I'm like no it just means the stuff that they were talking about is real which is even weirder like that's a weirder thing to think about that science saw the universe. Science has always been the wildest trip of all yeah don't even trip. Right right oh yeah man oh I'm so excited all of a sudden. All right. Speaking of civilizations or life forms long gone, hot out of New York, ABC News.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I told you there's a mystery, an archeological mystery going on in Kenya right now. Let me tell you what's going on. Kenyan dig site, they found some old stone tools and these stone tools are tools. There have been older ones found that are like from before our homo sapien ancestors that were like way simpler but the ones that we're talking about today are called the
Starting point is 00:35:14 older one tools and they were found about they're about 2.9 million years old these are the tool kits that are all across Africa over a million years of time people are using this where you hold a rock in one hand and you hit it with another rock and you get the thin little blade that you use to do pretty much everything and the main thing that these tools that were found were used for in Kenya was for butchering tuna butchering hippos for hippo Tartar. So whoa cutting up hippo meat So the thing that's crazy though is that at this site where they found this they also found two giant
Starting point is 00:35:52 fossilized teeth that weren't from the human ancestors, but rather the large-toothed small-brained paranthropists hominids, so Who really did invent the earliest tools? And who was using tools earliest? This is a new sort of possibility that this other... What year was this?
Starting point is 00:36:15 Or how long ago? 2.9 million years ago. So this is like back when there was the, like a few hominids out there that maybe were going to become humans, and they kind of were all different. Only one ended up being the homo erectus.6, like that's much longer. Yeah, that's fucking a lot longer. So like I said, there are older tools than this by like 0.4 million years or 0.5 million years. What's 0.4, that's a long ass time.
Starting point is 00:36:57 That is a long time. You have to think about it. There's tools from before Homo Ancestors for sure, but the point is those are way simpler than these tools. So what we believe we know about the development of tools, what we thought we knew may not be true. I mean, again, they could have killed some Paranthropists and ate them too. Like, you know, we don't know exactly what the relation is between the tools and the teeth, but the fact that they were found together in the same spot, it raises a question. So that site is called Nyayanga, and it's on the shores of Lake Victoria, and they've been excavating it for about eight years now. Excavating it for about eight years now and the two paranthropus teeth are are new and it's just sort of
Starting point is 00:37:52 Yeah, like I say just sort of changing it up. Is it dinner or the diner? That's the question vibes Good question. That's what somebody said. Where did they say it? I read that earlier dinner or the diner? Shick from the, the dig, the dig crew, Thomas Plummer and Schick from the Queens College, the city university in New York are the ones doing it. Kathy Schick works at the Stone Age Institute in Indiana. Yeah. I love those people talking about this. That's cool. I love this. It's so fascinating, but it also just goes to show
Starting point is 00:38:25 you that like, again, I love alien talk. I love it. But even my dad says this stuff, which drives me crazy. It just goes to prove that, you know, pyramids, giant buildings in the past. Oh yeah. We have the tools to make that stuff and the time and the people despair apparently because like, yeah, we we were pretty technologically advanced for like dudes in a cave. It's fascinating stuff, man. Yeah, I agree. It's such a huge building block of our story of ourselves to be changed. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah. Agreed. It's my story and I'm sticking to it. Oh, boy. Yeah. I hate that shit. Those like pyramids were built by aliens. And humans are genius, man. We figured it out.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It was done with slave work and like the lives of the poor. But they figured it out. The more interesting stuff is that thing. I think you brought up in a mini soda a long time ago, Jesse. Wasn't that like the weird stone that was cut perfectly that was like in like cut in a way that was like the hardness was insane There's plenty of that and it does bring up a lot of questions But the thing is is that a lot of the tech that they use was things like, you know the same reason why water cuts a certain way like we see people use high-pressure water and
Starting point is 00:39:46 or people that will take knives or different things and sharpen them. There's all sorts of way to do stuff with just natural means. We just don't know how to do it because we found better ways that are easier and we kind of were like well there's no reason to ever go back and learn the old way again. And so it's kind of true. I don't know man. It's very fascinating because we're in that weird place where it's like where are we headed? Where have we been? We're finally starting to ask questions or finally starting to like really consider stuff and not just be in that kind of dark age place where
Starting point is 00:40:14 everything is. This is the reason why because some dude told me why, you know what I mean? Yeah. And those who didn't only just had philosophical thoughts that were a lot of them pretty interestingly on target in certain ways As the as the future and time panned out. All right. Well, that's it for us everybody. Thank you guys so much for listening Thank you all so much for supporting us over at patreon.com Slash Patruluminahti Pods our five-year anniversary. We're gonna go celebrate by hanging up on each other and going to do other things All right. Thank you. Goodbye. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Goodbye. Goodbye. Hello, my little Chiluminauts. Mm. Welcome to Minisode. Oh, I'm not okay with this. Minisode 125, I believe. I don't like it. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:40:58 It's good. Oh. No, it's very weird. We're using a different program today, and Alex is a lot crisper, and so, like, seeing him hovering over his mic ready to, like, inhale it, it's very weird. We're using a different program today and Alex is a lot crisper, and so seeing him hovering over his mic ready to inhale it, it's very... He does kind of look like some sort of gargoyle
Starting point is 00:41:10 perched over his microphone. ASMR, ASMR. You're great. It does. It does. It does. That's my teeth clacking together as hard as I can clack them without splitting them in half. Oh god
Starting point is 00:41:28 That's like the worst thought in the world Be careful. Oh god do it again every single time. That's my teeth clacking together with a little too much force No, thank you 125 where Alex gives you horrifying thoughts boys. I don't know what you brought today Um and I really want good vibes. I'm scary vibes. I'm not sure which. OK, I brought a killer. I brought a killer one, but we can we can do as little or as much of it as we want because it's a little thing because mine's more of a downer. I didn't do UFOs. You know, I could talk about them all day long and I keep every day.
Starting point is 00:41:58 You guys get new articles. I just thrown context lists into our text chat. And I appreciate you allowing me to be my screaming ground of UFOs. It's actually, it's very informative. I like enjoy it. Yeah. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Uh, but no aliens today. Uh, we're going to talk a little something a little spooky, uh, boys out in California, Santa Cruz specifically, uh, there's a weird suspicious cookie monster that has been walking around.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Have you heard of the story yet? Cookie monster? Is this about me? No, it is not about you. It's not about you. Not a literal cookie monster. Right, right, right. No, no, this is the presence of a man
Starting point is 00:42:34 in a cookie monster outfit. Authorities in California city have issued a rather strange warning about an unsettling man seen dressed in a cookie monster costume. Unsettling man. While roaming around the boardwalk of the coastal community. How do they know it's a man? man seen dressed in a cookie monster costume and settling man while roaming around the boardwalk of the coastal community. How do they know it's a man? Yeah, because they track him down and interviewed him. They checked his CV
Starting point is 00:42:54 out a dick or a hole. Yeah, they followed him. Lift the cookie, there it is. It's like a little fig leaf. Well according to the local media report, this peculiar performer first appeared in Santa Cruz earlier this month and caused a quickly caused a stir among the residents detailing the situation on Instagram. The city's police department explained that they have, quote, received calls and emails from people who say he is creepy and his presence and comments make them uncomfortable as comments. Yeah, we'll get to that in a second. As such, they advised them not to engage with the individual and steer clear of him. However, they also had to go out and say he's just exercising his first amendment right.
Starting point is 00:43:32 They can't arrest him as much as they really want to. He also was charged with robbing and like intimidating a store owner and like harassing him. It was those charges were dropped. However And as the strangely enough the identity of the man inside the costume his name is Adam Sandler But he has no relation to the actor. It's not the actor. Adam Sandler is walking around a Cookie Monster outfit Terrorizing the neighborhood. That's what you're telling me He's like, oh, JFK Jr. coming back. Oh, meeting Trump, still president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Oh, we like Trump as much as Cookie. Oh, virus made in lab. Oh, man. Where is this going? I'm fascinated by this. I'm just getting, what was he saying to people? So he was apparently he harassed, he's known for harassing people
Starting point is 00:44:32 by just saying lewd things apparently, but there's no details on what those lewd things are. Like he like, it's just Adam Sandler walks up like, a pussy. And they're like, ugh. People consider him a negative effect in the community, but this is not the only city this man has visited. He has been in LA and New York and has faced some criminal
Starting point is 00:44:53 charges in New York. And he also may be the man who people suspect and call the evil Elmo, who has physically harassed and assaulted people. But nobody knows if it's the same guy as this guy wearing Are you telling me? You're telling me this dude was like they're catching on my Elmo game Yeah, switch it up red and blue, baby Well, of course when they asked him in the interview if he was if he was that Elmo he denied no
Starting point is 00:45:19 Me am cookie monster Do you want did you guys see let me send you a picture of this guy real quick? I'm going to send it to you in Twitter. I have a feeling I can guess. Have you either of you seen for some reason this entire story reminds me of that video? It might've been a vine where there's a fire in the back of buildings on fire and the camera pans over and there's like a band on the street playing music and like a dancing.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Yes. Yes. That's what it reminds me of. Uh, on Twitter boys, if you want to take a look at this cookie monster costume that people consider creepy. I hope it's actually like it's on coast to coast. That much like cookie monster to be honest. No, it doesn't. It looks like he's got a cookie monster hanging around. He's got a fanny packer purse dangling from his neck.
Starting point is 00:46:10 The gloves look like he pulled them from a construction company site. It looks like big blue furry Pac-Man in a way. He's got a tongue hanging out. Yes, he has a tongue hanging out. Cookie Monster has no tongue. He's just a hand inside of a cookie monster. A creepy cookie monster. Cookie monster is what I'm going to call him. He considers himself a rogue performer who is just an innocent guy.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Well, of course he does. Oh, and oh, maybe it's the real cookie monster. They asked him, hey, you're a guy, right? He's a, oh, yeah, me, M guy. And they said, what's your name? And he looked to the side at like a Netflix poster and he was like, hey, you're a guy, right? He's like, yeah, me M guy. And they said, what's your name? And he looked to the side at a Netflix poster, and he was like, ah, Adam Sandler. Oh, no, no, no, no. No relation.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Oh, oh, wow, that's incredible. You're not the same person who's been Evil Elmo, are you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, bit, yeah, it's a good bit. Yeah man, it's a good bit. That's it, that's all I brought to the table today, gentlemen. A break from the UFO insanity because I'm going insane if I keep thinking about it. You are insane, that's true. I can keep the show rolling with some UFO insanity right here that I have for you.
Starting point is 00:47:36 No, this is, this is like the, this is like the old school UFO insanity. So, I'm on Mysterious Universe again, which, you know, take it for what it is. You can like it or not. I don't care. It's a weird vibe over there. But the website does post good, interesting things about weird things that are going on. And this article that they've posted on March 1st, Nick Redfern
Starting point is 00:48:06 posted this. Mysterious men in black and their equally weird cars. It is a series of like first person accounts of people interacting with not just the men in black, but specifically their weird black cars that are often seen going up into the UFOs, like aliens getting into a car and then driving to a UFO. People seeing the men in black and their car and then turning around and then looking and the car's gone presumably. Skinwalker Ranch, if you remember.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I was on the side of the road and there was this big blue dancing alien and then will Smith pulled up Me no alien, ah me will Smith no I did it again me did it again. Oh If you remember the skinwalker ranch episode, there was that whole like weird men in black car with dudes in it that kind of came out and then disappeared and like, what the hell? Yeah. I have.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Did you like that explanation, Jesse? What the hell? Loved it, great. What the hell? That's all I got, man. I have a little quote here from ufologist Tim Beckley. Do you know this guy, Mathis? I know the name, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I'm more of a Jacques Valle man myself, but. I get that. So here's part one of it for you to read and then I have a little bit more. I'll grab in just a minute here for you. I remember one incident where I was lecturing and a gentleman, a professor at the college where I was lecturing, came up to me
Starting point is 00:49:40 and told the story about how he was driving outside of a town in Michigan. It was rather late at night and he saw these lights in the woods. He pulled over and there was no other traffic coming in either direction, but there was already another car parked at the edge of the road. He described seeing some sort of ship in the distance, a UFO. A group of human-like aliens got out of the UFO, walked to the car, which was a Cadillac or something like that. He watched them and could see they looked human. They just got in the car and drove off. But then, a couple of weeks later, he sees one of the same guys in a supermarket.
Starting point is 00:50:13 These reports sound far-fetched, but there's so many of them of what seem to be aliens being able to move among us. Yeah, so the idea... They're star children, baby! The idea is that... What are you buying? Cookie! The idea is that sometimes you gotta get around on Earth, but you don't wanna get your whole flying saucer all in the mix, right?
Starting point is 00:50:32 So we already know the answer to that is teleportation like Valiant Thor, who just zips up and zops all over the place. But sometimes, okay, but okay, like, let's say you just wanna go get some Taco Bell with your human roommate and his physiology doesn't let him teleport. So maybe an elevator comes down and drops off a couple of cars that you can just hop in and go through the drive-through if you need to. Like iraq points and like mercenaries and can call down a jeep. Exactly right. I'll take you to 1961, March 6th.
Starting point is 00:51:04 This guy, Michael Wilcox, he was in South Miami and he, it was like 10, 15 p.m. and he lived in a house that like behind the house was eight acres of tomatoes. So he's pretty, pretty rural. It's like a, you know, it's a farm, right? So it's, so it's like a pretty remote kind of situation. And through the window of his living room, he sees something that he thinks looks like a Navy blimp. He says it's larger than any blimp he's ever seen, but in his mind he was thinking it's a Navy blimp. He goes outside and he is looking at this thing. Suddenly a door on the side opens, and when the doors open all the way, three small circular objects exit the craft,
Starting point is 00:51:51 shoot out into the darkness, and then one by one, three black Ford Galaxies were lowered to the ground out of the UFO. Yeah, baby, they know what they're like. They had like a hydraulic elevator, maybe they know what they're like. They had like a hydraulic elevator and they put three Ford galaxies down. I wonder if that's just because the aliens are like, where from a galaxy?
Starting point is 00:52:13 The aliens have a sense of irony, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe they are like Ford prefect and they misunderstood who the dominant life form on Earth was, I don't know. That's up to you, that's for the UK. Just to show you that I do know some UK comedy. But yeah, so they're on the ground,
Starting point is 00:52:30 and then a rectangular shaped object comes out of the UFO, lands in the field next to the cars, and then four groups of four people walk out of that rectangle and enter each car. So these three cars come down down and then four groups of four Get into the cars. I don't know where that extra group of people went or what car they got into That's not really explained here. I'm telling you it's just almost like they messed it up Yeah, but then each car went like one after the other
Starting point is 00:53:02 like Zero to as fast as they can go, booked it down the road one at a time. And he tried to follow them, but he lost sight of them when they hit 136th Street in South Miami. Pretty crazy one. So I have some other ones. I'm going to skip a few of these.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Give me another one. I'll do one more. All right. I'm enjoying that. a few of these. Give me another one. I'll do one more. All right. I'm enjoying that. Yeah. Because this one is fun because it's in 1967 in a little place. I guess it's not that connected. I thought it was going to be connected.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They're saying that it's 1967, which is Mothman year. Yes. And this is in Defiance, Ohio. Jesse, I don't know if you can help me with that. I, boy, it sounds like probably... Quite a rural place. Eastern Ohio somewhere. Yeah. Probably quite a rural place.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Look it up. There's a guy called Robert Easley. He is a UFO researcher, a good friend of Tim Beckley, who's another UFO researcher who was one of the guys who got the MIB on film in the 60s in Jersey City. It is by the way it is Western Ohio way off but it's more towards Toledo. 16,000 population. Okay so it's nowhere near Point Pleasant West Virginia is what you're saying. No. The exact opposite end. It's way closer to Detroit. So I guess it's marginally close. So check it out.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So Easley lives in Defiance. July 11th, 1967, he wakes up. His phone's ringing, he answers the phone. He thought maybe it was somebody who was going to be like, Grandpa's dead or some shit like that. So he answered it. But it was a woman who was like, I want to tell you about two UFOs that I can see in the town right now and it's happening right now and so he gets in his car and he
Starting point is 00:54:49 drives off and turns out that the whole way there he was shadowed by a black Cadillac and it had no license plates and the driver his upper head his upper body in his head were silhouetted you couldn't really see what was in there which is not good when you're driving and you're looking into a car, you can't make out the driver even though you should be able to, that's scary. They vanished by turning off down another road, so he was super paranoid, and so then, it doesn't get to what he drove to that night, maybe that's just what his day-to-day is like, is getting calls from people and driving out to the sightings, I don't know. But four days later, they show
Starting point is 00:55:28 up again in the Cadillac following him for a number of miles. And his buddy Beckley says, when easily pulled into his driveway, the unknown car sped off. Later that evening, as he sat talking with his girlfriend on the front porch, the car came down the road and stopped right in front of the house as soon as the topics of UFOs entered their conversation. Easily could feel the man looking at them. When they got off the subject, the car left, but when they got back on it about an hour later, the same car rolled back up again. It was as if the driver could hear what they were saying or read their minds. Isn't it, like, taking that story out of this thing?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Assuming these are physical people here and we're just going to pretend the story is real and this actually happened as a hypothetical uh It makes no sense why they would do that if they're just like we like if they're exactly whatever But if they're part of the phenomenon that is seemingly everything and that is like that's the problem of the phenomenon that is seemingly everything and that is like that's the problem they are part of the alien they are like they are synonymous with aliens whenever they show up it's because of UFOs and like that line of thinking is badonk the idea that like doesn't make any sense unless it does they are like if we're like that goes with the theory though that like we're
Starting point is 00:56:44 drawing them in with some like psychic energy. Like we're the ones, we're the ones pulling them in. They're like some sort of. So it's just like, it's how our brain. Type. Filters them into our reality. And we see things that we recognize, but are just off. You give our brain too much credit.
Starting point is 00:56:59 In your world, Mathis, in your, in my world. Well, where we're pretending this is a real site. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean. Like, do you, are you imagining that maybe like somewhere out of their site, this car is like materializing like much nearer than- Yeah, it's not there or it's inactive or like it's, it's simply coming into vision when, you know, the consciousness pulls it in. It, it, it, it's all part of like, if you look at it that way,
Starting point is 00:57:23 like you would look at a UFO, it's all part of that. if you look at it that way, like you would look at UFO, it's all part of that. Like it's almost teasing you. Like you still can't explain it. Nobody's going to believe you, but it's almost like, see, we're here. Hey, it's like the agents. What does it mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And then they, the matrix like what from the matrix, the agents? Yes. Yeah. I guess in a weird way they like, well, like something you start doing something. Yeah. And they show up suddenly. They're like, they've been there somehow.
Starting point is 00:57:46 But they're almost like they're so much more passive in like our quote, unquote world. Like it's just weird because what they do doesn't make sense. Well, they do seem to terrorize quite a few people. When they do interact, they act weird. They don't look like they actually have lips like a lot of the time. They have a weird funky smell, which often accompanies gray alien encounters. So like there's a lot there that we did three episodes on way back in the day that I just like, yeah, sorry. But I love that topic too.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It's all in that fucking world. Yeah. So that's it's, I just thought it was interesting that, uh, the men in black's cars were something that there was like many, many, many, many bit is hilarious. That's like really funny. That's what it is. But think about it though, like if that's what the public consciousness believes men in black drive,
Starting point is 00:58:32 then that's why we're seeing it show up every time. Like a black, not necessarily a galaxy specifically, but that similar looking like black low riding car, like that longer, older model, Cadillacs, yeah. Dale Cooper. It's why like the UFOs have sort of changed as our understanding of them have changed. People used to see those big unknown blimps and things that didn't make sense. Well, you can look at other countries and you can see that even culturally there's
Starting point is 00:58:56 like different UFOs. That's the other thing too. Like Japan's UFOs have like udders. You ever see that? It's very different. Like people like to say, it's like, why does only UFOs visit the United States? They don't we just don't translate the news everywhere else so like they're everywhere man there There's a ton of sightings happening like there was one over Moscow yesterday, right? that was like they had to scramble jets to scare off there was like a Freaking UFO that was spot remember the drone obviously
Starting point is 00:59:22 Remember the one that I did where they were like the the alien jizz fell out of the sky and they like put it under a microscope and shit. Yeah. Isn't it crazy that you'd never heard that story before just because it was like in Spanish. You know what I mean? Like exactly like it's all big stories don't get reported.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It's happening everywhere. Yeah, exactly. Jesse take me out of crazy town. In fact, I'm gonna take you further into it. No! I'm sure we've all seen the various, I don't know, like sci-fi movies or TV shows. There's even a Black Mirror episode about this. The idea of reliving the past and reliving your memory.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Can I just say, oh my god, that was the episode I stopped watching Black Mirror. It was, I couldn't bear. Oh, because you were terribly depressed and it was. Yeah, it was a fucking crushed me. Well, depending on how you view life, the past, the future, whatever, this might either be the coolest thing in the world or truly depressing to you. I was leaving it at that. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Wist WIST is developing a smartphone app that can record unforgettable moments, just things on your phone that you want to remember, and then put that out into a VR headset and let you relive it as you were in the moment. That's like step one to that Black Mirror episode where you just record shit with your eyeballs. The program captures footage in 3d and then turns it into immersive world that you then through a vr app called vivid can then go in and just like in a quest vr relive the moment and they're the reason i know about this is because i saw a tick tock
Starting point is 01:00:59 of a clip and it was someone reliving seeing a baby and you can see them in VR like press play and it's like the baby for the first time and it is absolutely it doesn't seem real it seems super bonkers it's absolutely wild sounds like a preem BD to me too. That's insane me too. And scary the technology lets you rewind zoom shift It's literally all that shit from black mirror. And it all, you know, you can look at your, your smartphone to see the thing, but really it only will record things you record on your smartphone. So it's no different than like I'm recording a concert, except now the thought process is record the concert and the app
Starting point is 01:01:44 records everything around you. So then you put VR on. Now you're back in the moment again, which is taking to that next level. But we're getting there. You're right. We're on the path to. I mean, it doesn't impress me. It just makes me sad.
Starting point is 01:02:01 It just makes me disappointed in people because I don't know about you. AI right now is fascinating and scary at the same time for me right now like it's it's Something like I can't help but mess with but also when I mess with that I'm just like this is scary as shit like wait until the AI starts being able to make paranormal podcasts about whatever topic you Already had it write our script. Did you see the script? It had us each amazing? We shouldn't do that script one day. We just got it. It's like a minute long. Yeah, it's so funny. It's so funny. But Jesse was like the skeptic and like it had the tone. It picked it all up. I was like
Starting point is 01:02:37 the custodian of the show. I was like, yeah, you were like, tell me some more interesting facts about that man. Yeah. In the beginning, you were like tell me some more interesting facts about that man Yeah, I'm getting you agreed with Jesse and then later you're like, oh, but also maybe aliens What's fascinating about this though is the way they sell it to you as like being able to experience your life from the outside like see the memory and It always reminds me of the thing. I think about every time I see like a Like a concert is there's people all the time posts like I went to this, uh, techno concert boy techno. I went to this techno concert. I don't know what they call these things or some type of rave. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Like, and it's a, it's amazing intro. Like I watched one where this guy's like, it's all the emperor and the lights go like red every time he's like, yes ready to rock or whatever and I keep thinking Everyone's saying they're filming it and like yeah, all these phones around nobody's in the moment and in my mind I'm like I would be so in the moment Mm-hmm I wouldn't think to pull my phone out and that's what upsets me is that people are so busy capturing stuff For others or for themselves in the future. They don't take the minute to just sit there and be like, this is amazing. Yeah. I mean, I was like a baby the first time, you know, you're like,
Starting point is 01:03:51 and your first thought is I need to capture this. I can relive it forever, but it'll never be the same as living it in that moment right then. No. And you know what? People have gotten along just fine without having photo evidence of their moments in their life and I don't think it's bad necessarily to revisit those moments in that way I just think that if this is a finally moment for you that you should maybe rethink your priorities. Yeah maybe. If this is what you've been waiting for what the hell are you thinking? Well that wasn't as an upbeat ending as I had hoped, but thank you everybody for
Starting point is 01:04:28 listening. The aliens, they drive around in Fords. Come on. That's good. The alien, man, the alien situation around the world right now is fucking making tight. Is that what you're going to say? It's sweet. The UFO footage of the people from the plane just recording those orbs that one's moving back and forth and shit.
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Starting point is 01:05:34 I got something about some mysterious events in a school. I'm in Egypt. Okay. I'm in Columbia. I'm in Baghdad, technically. Oh shit. Okay. Well, you guys are close to each other. So one in Egypt. Okay. I'm in Colombia. I'm in Baghdad, technically. Oh shit. Okay. Well, you guys are close to each other.
Starting point is 01:05:48 So you one of you guys go. I got to talk about the Jeremy Corbel UFO stuff. You know, I have to. So I just want this man makes me want to punch him in the face. That's the thing that I hate the most. I know. Here's the thing. I understand Jeremy Corbel first and foremost is an entertainer and for that he's kind of
Starting point is 01:06:07 appreciated. He's definitely brought more eyes onto the UAP UFO phenomenon than anybody else really has. Again, he was part of the 2017 video leak amongst a few others. The Mosul orb was also due to him. But as entertainer, he's a boy who can fluff things up a bit too much sometimes and the other day on his new episode of weaponized podcast, which is a podcast between himself and George now sounds like a podcast from a video game that's trying to sound like a made up right wing podcast. Yep, I know it's yes it's frustrating but it's all about UFOs and stuff so He teased that on the midnight drop when the episode goes live so too Will new photos that will of course blow our fucking minds is gonna be crazy and though I I really wanted to wait up
Starting point is 01:06:56 I'm glad I didn't one apparently the photos didn't drop until the podcast was done an hour and a half later and Two the photos on first look and still kind of are Disappointing as shit. I'm gonna link you boys the actual website here This is the weaponized podcast calm my dude First of all said show up for these picks and then he's like, oh actually they're gonna be the end So you might as well listen to the podcast guess I got some new listeners. You know, it's almost like yeah, he was Using it as a way to advertise. Yeah. Essentially the link in Twitter, but this comes from the Weaponized Podcast's actual websites or news, whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:29 And basically it says, investigative journalists Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp attained and are revealing for the first time US military-filmed UFO footage from an active conflict zone imaged by the US Air Force using a Reaper drone. So these images are off a Reaper drone. This UFO has been officially designated by the Air Force as a UAP, but it is not yet currently part of the active United States UAP investigations, seemingly due to obstacles of information flow after collection. The Department of Defense's AARO, that's the brand new office for UAPs,
Starting point is 01:08:04 in case you don't remember, is now aware of this case. So what is this photo of? Well, the photo is from May 14th, 2022. The six images slash footage that we're seeing on this website were taken north of the city of Baghdad, Iraq. The video is seven seconds long. And the cylindrical UAP displayed in these labeled the Baghdad Phantom UAP is seen in transit under quote Intelligent control in in controlled flight moving a stable lateral direction across from the video from left to right from our perspective Or anybody was viewing it how much distance are we looking at here? Let's see if we have that so we know the imaging type is thermographic and forward-looking flier You we know it's a we know the imaging type is thermographic and forward looking FLIR. You, we know it's a, we know it's the Reaper drone. We don't know like how high up it is compared to this thing. We don't know. Yeah. We don't know how far this thing is traveling. I don't know what these numbers mean on this. Maybe elevation
Starting point is 01:08:58 is 233 feet is what it says. That's from years of playing ACE combat, baby. Hey, look at that video games team. So you're at 233 feet above the ground is what it's saying. That's what it's saying. Okay. So but we don't know how high above this target. Maybe in the bottom, right? So it's not. So there's not that much space between the ground and the
Starting point is 01:09:15 camera. Basically. I think it's saying target is maybe 233 feet elevation. The thing we're looking at. Right. But that means we're the target. I would imagine that's I mean true Yeah fucking who knows whatever it is. It looks like the exact
Starting point is 01:09:30 Description of one of those like cigar things. Yes Well a little bit more information that they do have and again, this is what they've been able to obtain this is why Corbel infuriates me because all this information is information that is a Goes along from the Air Force, but it's not mind blowing in the way that he always pretends it is. But this Baghdad Phantom UAP was not an isolated UAP event in this area in a 24 hour period.
Starting point is 01:09:57 UAP consisting of various shapes were filmed during this UAP event series. So there's supposedly other footage out there that they have, not them specifically, the army has, or the Air Force. And corroborative data from multiple types of sensor data were used to document these UAP events, including thermal and radar. So they have multiple devices that are picking this thing up.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And that's about all we got, really. It looks decent. It looks decent. It's not as good as the Mosul Orb. No, definitely not. Now all we got really. It looks decent. It looks decent. It's not as good as the Mosul orb. No, definitely not. But the thing about the temperature is interesting. That's what that's what makes the photo interesting. If upon first look you don't realize that the area around
Starting point is 01:10:37 it is hot and the object is black in the image because it's cold. It's not emitting any heat because this is again Baghdad. You're looking at a hot ground that they're targeting think it would be hot and in the trail behind it's cold. It's not emitting any heat because again, Baghdad, you're looking at a hot ground that they're targeting. Think it would be hot. And the trail behind it is emitting no heat. It looks more like it's a wake trail. People are saying this not has any heat associated with it because my first instinct. And I think a lot of people's were kind of looks like maybe a missile missile.
Starting point is 01:11:01 It could be a missile or like a video game when you shoot like a like a gas tank and it goes like, and it like flies off on its own propulsion. Maybe something like that beyond just like armchair being like, though, it's also not a missile because there's no heat. I mean, I'm sure there's missiles that don't give off heat are supposed to be like undetectable and a lot of things. It's it's it's fascinating because of just like the Air Force itself are claiming it still a marking it as a UAP. I would I don't know if they have easy tracking on missiles and stuff. This whole down to balloon stuff has really muddied what they're capable of doing. And I think on purpose, they've done that. But you know,
Starting point is 01:11:40 I don't know, it's another interesting photo that might lead to more photos being like now the Pentagon, much like the Mosul orb leak there. So the Mosul orb leak when they were pro when the Pentagon was approached of the weather was real or not, the Pentagon refused to answer, which is what they did with the frickin videos back in 2017, which to me more than likely means it's it's at least a UAP. It's real at the very, it's a real picture of something. It just doesn't move the needle at all for me is the thing. Like showing me another UFO, like this might as well be, this might as well be some guy on TikTok. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't, it's no different because there's no action.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Well, I put a little bit more stock in Corbel than a man on TikTok for sure. But I guess. But it's just like I said, there's no way to say that this shows anything. There's no evidence that this is definitely something that can't be explained. It's just another thing that he's like, look at this one.
Starting point is 01:12:39 It's not like this guy is going to say something or we know there from Venus or some kind of yeah No, it's never of course not. Yeah, that's what's infuriating because he always treats everything he's dropping like it's gonna be that Yeah, I don't like that. There's like a Success element. I just went online to look up other drone photos like camera photos just to confirm yeah, I mean Elvie equals elevation and I'm looking at other photos and there's elevation of like
Starting point is 01:13:10 2,900 feet and 4,600 feet this one says elevation to 233 feet so that thing that's there on that camera is between It's got to be you know, maybe a hundred feet in the air. Yeah. Something like that. Probably something like that. And that's not, I mean, like if you think a, a, I don't want to say nuclear silo, but the, the word like the steam comes out of in a power plant, right? Right. That's like a 500 feet. So this isn't that high off the ground. And the image, I was wondering why the image on the ground is like, is blurry. And I can't tell what that's supposed to be. And I think it's because it's just really close to the ground.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah, which means it's pretty big, right? Because they're able to get the picture of this above it at whatever distance they are. And it's still pretty visible. I would guess it's the size. Like, if that's really how far that is from between the camera and the ground I would guess that's the size of a person mmm okay yeah I mean that's my feeling yeah it's not that's not big yeah I don't know I'm trying to see there's a bunch of other information yeah I've got a lot of army people out there as well or
Starting point is 01:14:19 people who are more familiar with this in our listeners so I'm gonna throw this at them as well I think like the SLR is probably the camera, like the other information there. They use FLIR. They use the FLIR camera. I don't know if that matters. I'm just trying to think of like, it says target a and it is clearly focusing on not what is flying across the screen. Right? Yeah. And it is, I'm just like going over all the information. I've looked up other configurations
Starting point is 01:14:46 of, you know, the, the photos of drones from their camera and the exact same information is displayed. In fact, other drones have much more information like, you know, the latitude longitude of where it is at the moment. This one has less information than most other cameras and it's still saying elevation is two, three, two 33 compared to other ones, which are like thousands of feet up. And then it shows like a car or a building or something. And this is just blurry. I'm looking up like how, how big is this thing? And I have, I stumbled across somebody doing like math to figure out where it is. And apparently it not 200 feet it's 200 feet from the the Reaper drone to it and but they're 20,000 feet in the air I how do you know that I'll give you the
Starting point is 01:15:38 picture of the thing that wait the man who's 20,000 feet in the everything like the the Reaper drone who is saying. And it's it's on a like because it doesn't make sense that it's saying that the object appearing is 200 feet away because it's only there for seven seconds and it's locked onto something else. I'm looking for Elf. I'm looking at video footage of drones right now both moving and targeting and their camera. There's one video footage of drones right now, both moving and targeting and their camera. There's one video footage I'm looking at where it's just a drone flying and you're seeing the horizon line as it flies and the elevation moves up and down as it's moving.
Starting point is 01:16:14 So I mean, I'm, I I'm still the mindset that this is not anything at all. So I found a breakdown of what everything means on the side. 256 MBRG is a 256 magnetic bearing from drone to image center. SLR is 12.82 kilometer slant range from drone to image center. GDR is 6.08 nautical miles from drone ground position to image center. FW, FVW is the 173 meter field of view with then there's the other one is the field of view height, which is right below it. And then, okay, so we are seeing 173 meters. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Then there's the 233 foot is the ground elevation. I imagine. Then there's the 233 foot is the ground elevation. I imagine. Well, like how high on the MGRS lines are the ones right below that are location lines like a grid line type things where you can. Yeah, yeah. You can actually pinpoint where this happened by taking that information and going to the map of the area. And you can see it's right in the
Starting point is 01:17:25 north, northern part of the town where this occurred. And you can like see where this happened. So if it's 173 meters, you know, that's, that's, that's, this thing is significantly larger than I thought it was. I still don't know what it is. Like it just doesn't, it doesn't. I still don't know what it is. Like it just doesn't. It doesn't. I'm I, all right. I'll have to trust it. Cause they they're dropping facts, but it doesn't make sense based on the other footage I'm looking at. That's wild. Cause everything else is like, I'm looking at video footage of drones and it's feet and feet is where they're at. And then it's in the thousands. It's saying that makes a lot they're at and then it's in the thousands It's saying that makes a lot more sense, but maybe it's yes So it's a little deeper drones or 20,000 feet in the air
Starting point is 01:18:13 But that but that the ground that they're elevated is 253 feet above sea level or whatever. Well, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Where do you get the number for how high it is? That's the elevation. He's it's it's saying that it's two hundred and thirty three feet above sea level. Two hundred thirty three foot ground elevation, you're saying ground elevation. Right, right. But but I'm talking about how high up the thing is. The drone. Oh, that's two fifty six magnetic bearing from drone to image center. Twelve point eight two kilometer slant range from drone to image center.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Six point zero eight nautical miles from drone ground position to image center. One point. I mean, one hundred seventy three meter filled with field with a view. And then somebody took that information and like here, I'm going to show you what I would like the math that I don't understand. That's what I am with. Extremely educational. This is really interesting. To save this. I'm gonna show you what I, with like the math that I don't understand. That's what I, I'm with you. I know that, extremely educational actually. This is really interesting. Can I just save this?
Starting point is 01:19:11 This is him figuring out the height of how high the Reaper drone is. Oh yeah, okay, so we got receipts. You got slant, range, altitude, altitude squared plus range squared equals slant squared. It's like your basic, like, Yeah, makes sense. I remember doing this sort of.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Yeah, so that's what the 6.13 kilometers and which equals 20,000 feet. Yeah, because we have the 6.13, we know that. So yeah, I mean, that's just the math. I don't know what it means. I don't know anything other than what we're given and we're left because Jeremy Korbel doesn't fucking explain anything beyond what I read you. So I don't know. That's where
Starting point is 01:19:48 the VOP, I have to just get that out of my system because I just don't know what to do with this information. I don't know what it means. I guess this must be like a long range high altitude drone. It's got to be like a Reaper. I don't know. The drones I'm looking at give you where it is. Like, so basically all the other drones I'm looking at give you where it is. Uh, like, so basically all the other drones I'm looking at have the exact same thing at the bottom. But then at the top they have the location. So the, the bottom is location of target, right? The top would be location of aircraft.
Starting point is 01:20:18 That's just not on this footage. There is no location of aircraft. Are you looking at Reaper drone footage? Cause there's so many different kinds of drones. Like, I don't know what's what I'm looking at predator, at Reaper drone footage because there's so many different kinds of drones like I don't know what's what I'm looking at predator like predator drone footage. I'm looking at right now doesn't look like that. It looks different So it's like it's a Reaper drone specifically and I don't know if that matters Good question. No clue you're asking the wrong guy
Starting point is 01:20:38 Yeah, like how high can it fly high really interesting footage really interesting information that I'm getting about how to read the chart on the drone. Reaper drones have an operational altitude of up to 50,000 feet in the air. Yeah, but Mr. Corbel is no, it's not moving the needle in any way with this. Agreed. And that's why I am as well. I guess it's important to put these things out in front of people as we get them if we can, right? But I don't like that his personal success is wrapped up in this. Yeah. And I think that's I think that's super annoying. And I think that if the AARO is like really going to do this, like if they're going to actually resolve anomalies like they like their title says, they should they should be the ones in control of this type of stuff. They should be putting out press releases constantly. Which actually I mean, we're not going to tangent too hard, but it brings up another thing that I, you know, has been brought up before in the past is like apparent. And this is all hearsay. So you don't even know if any of it's true. But another apparent big reason that like a big chunk of the
Starting point is 01:21:34 government doesn't want to like release it is because there is a big chunk of the government that's very religious and they see this shit as demonic happenings and don't want to like acknowledge it in a way. And they believe that it's going to bring like end time nonsense. I said, I said, take it with a grain of salt. So I don't know. I mean, I think it says a lot that we just spent the majority of our conversation about this topic, trying to figure out distances and timetables and learn about drones rather
Starting point is 01:22:03 than to decide whether what we saw was an alien or not. I think that sums up everything about what you can't, you can't make that decision without context to the photos. You just can't do it. It doesn't, but it's not even like an interesting, it's six or seven photos and it's like a black line moving across it. Yeah. And that could be having somebody off the earth and taking it into a space. I agree. It's it's like you said already, Alex, it moves as a needle. None. But it's out there and I got to just talk about it and I'd be done with it.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Take it away. Somebody else. Yeah, I got you. I got you gentlemen. Don't know if you saw social media. It was all over it or the news or whatever, but guess what? The world of ancient Egypt continues to inspire.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Last week, the great pyramid of Giza revealed to the world. This is a pet. Yeah. Apparently, I don't know if years ago they first detected something directly. So if you, if you think about the great pyramid, there isn't like a, like a normal doorway, it's kind of like up and above is the entrance and the entrance slants down into the pyramid. Yeah. And above the entrance of the pyramid are sort of these Chevron things. And up above the Chevron kind of in it, they discovered a passage and they knew it was there.
Starting point is 01:23:33 And because, you know, for restoration purposes and for the purposes of not destroying the pyramid, they weren't going to start digging around. So they waited until they could get an endoscope and sort of dig into it. And now they've discovered that according to the video, there is a nine meter, 30 feet long and 2.1 meter, seven feet, seven foot wide shaft. And it sort of goes inside of there and they don't know yet whether it's something
Starting point is 01:23:59 that was created to sort of redistribute the pyramid's weight or if it leads to a yet undiscovered chamber, these things. This is so interesting. Yeah. The best, the best. Here's an image for you that I think does a really good job of maybe you can describe it to people. I'll throw it into people forget what you can do with the slave labor. Oh yeah. It's so fascinating. So you can kind of see that the, the entrance slants down shit, but this thing is above it and it goes straight across into the pyramid. Yeah. It's like the attic of the pyramid or some shit kind of, and they don't know what's in there. They don't, again, they don't know if it was a shaft created for weight or for air or cause
Starting point is 01:24:44 you know, as they're in there, they had to make air shafts and stuff so people could but could also be a it seems like if you kind of look at the way the entrance looks maybe there was stairs leading up and it was another room who knows so fucking big people have a hard time comprehending it boggles the amount of how that were thrown at these projects and how long they took. You know what I mean? Like. It's just a huge it's just a huge thing to like it's so precise. It's quite you know what I mean? It's just so wild. I understand that humans can do it. It's just more like.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Like how the fuck do you like? Well, it was the grandest example of the greatest pharaoh to reach the gods. And it was just like. They're like, let's just make a big ass triangle. Like, it's just so mystical to me. I know it's just wild. Keep in mind, the Great Pyramid is one hundred forty six meters high. It was built in the fourth dynasty in like, I don't know, 2609 BC, something like that. So high up.
Starting point is 01:25:50 It's so high. It's impossible to imagine long ago. Yeah. It's like a Las Vegas hotel. Yeah. We're in, we're in 2023. And so 4,000 ish or so years ago, this was barely ever make shit like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 It's nuts. It's a, and this is another thing that they've this is the second thing That they're trying to investigate cuz there's another thing. Yeah, they found that corridor Yeah in 2017 they discovered another thing using it's not radar, but it's like yeah some Kind of graphy that they have where they they, you know, Sonic pulse the pyramid and they discover new things and they discovered a 30 meter long several meters in height, something above the grand gallery. There's like another room up there and they can't get to it yet without, you know, destroying the building. So they're just waiting to figure out a way in and this might be the way in. They don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Can you imagine getting to be the person to get to walk into that room for the very first time in fucking? Thousands of years I would be I would be so giddy just to see it People were posting a lot of photos of things very similar to that. I saw someone posted a photo of Like they just like a tomb that was discovered It's many years ago was a tomb discovered and the rope that was used to seal the tomb was still just there. Like still cause you know, the temperature, it was all sealed off. That's that's like 4,000 year old rope.
Starting point is 01:27:15 That's crazy. The snapshot at what people thought of this person or how they may have lived in just a peek at what humanity was like and how similar they want to us in a lot of ways. Grand Canyon. Yeah, man. It's not. Yeah, you get buried in the Grand Canyon. They have a guard that permanently found their way there. Possibly. Yeah, yeah. That's true American history. And then John Smith, the Mormons came out with Jesus, talked about Jesus wandering America, and then it was just all different again.
Starting point is 01:27:40 And speaking of things that may or may not be real, I want to talk about the Ouija board. Yeah. All right. Go on. Oh, that's trademark to Mattel. Spirit board, sir. You guys know what these things are. We have a custom one made for us. Everybody is very well.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah, everybody's well aware of this. I'm just, you know, the listeners, right? So there's these two schools in Columbia that there was like a bunch of students who required medical attention after passing out. And the quote says that and this is from the El Tiempo, I think, paper in Colombia in Posto. It says there were 28 possible case of anxiety in school students. Given the reported cases, a series of comments were unleashed in the community that more than helping to resolve the situation generated confusion and an adverse environment for our work. And so there was a quote from somebody who worked at the hospital where the girls
Starting point is 01:28:39 were taken, there's 28 of them, they were found in a hallway and they were like fainting and anxious The person at the hospital said I work here in the hospital kiosks every day and every day I see between three and four fainted children arrive I worry and I go out to see why I also have my daughter in that school and Then here's the here's the kicker from an L impartial another Colombian paper or media site or something. Information about the students diagnosis has not been released.
Starting point is 01:29:09 However, many parents blame the use of Ouija boards at the school, which is crazy just to hear. But then there is Director Torres at the school says that the Educational Institute also respectfully asks citizens to refrain from making advanced judgments and diagnoses on their own. They have not. This article came out on Mysterious Universe on March 9, which is today, or actually tomorrow because I think they're on the other side of the world. So this is a this as of this writing, there has not
Starting point is 01:29:42 been any cause reported for this. Um, but, uh, this is not the first time this has happened, uh, because in November of last year at the agricultural technical Institute, uh, in hot tub Columbia, uh, they found a group of students collapsed in a hallway with quote, thick drool coming out of their mouths and 11 students between the ages of 13 and 17 were revived and rushed to the near the nearby Manuela Beltran hospital, treated for violent vomiting and spasms. And, uh, everybody thought it was food poisoning. That's what they were treated for.
Starting point is 01:30:21 But the mayor of Hato said something different. He said, quote, it is not ruled out that it was the Ouija board. That is part of the investigation. So the official cause ended up being that they drank some bad water on a school trip and that something similar might happen in Pasto. But in both cases, for some reason, the first place that people went to was that maybe it was because they were using Ouija boards. And there was a survey and the Galeris Educational Institution were they're quoted as saying three quarters of people surveyed said they have used a Ouija board
Starting point is 01:31:02 themselves. Of those 59 percent say they've had a personal experience with the board that they consider to be paranormal or supernatural. And 9% of those who have used the Ouija board reported having a violent or dangerous experience while using the board. But it's the toy that didn't start as a toy. Jesse, we talked about this in the Ouija episode. They were for it first, and they monopolized it. Okay. Okay. Right. this on the Ouija episode, they were spirefords first and they monopolized it.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Okay. Okay. Right. But like the concept that the concept that like a company would be like, yeah, yeah, this thing we're going to mass market it and put it in kids homes. I mean, I think it sounds like spin to sell some dumb products, a similar design to legit spirit boards. People use it and take it seriously and focus intent on it in a serious way. No one guy moves it and everyone else buys in. You got the idea. Motor effect, radio motor, idea motor effect unconsciously is the idea that, yes, people move the slide, but that's just the beginning of what a Ouija board is possibly capable of doing.
Starting point is 01:32:05 And there is an article on Higgy Pop. Don't know the credentials of that website. But they said that, you know, you should sort of like respect the spirits and not be like sort of like flippant about it. Or if you're not all the way in, don't let people be in the circle that are not that way, because theoretically you're communicating with dead people, and they are probably going to be insulted by that or whatever. And whatever. So I'd like to imagine when I die and become a ghost, I am
Starting point is 01:32:38 immediately very easily offended by people believe I'm real or not. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know how old these ghosts are, but my thing is just, I don't know why in Columbia the idea that these kids are playing with Ouija boards is so close to people's minds with regards to school girls fainting in the hallways and getting sick. I mean, we know. Apparently it's a thing.
Starting point is 01:32:55 We know for, I mean, I'm not trying to like, I am, as much as I'm like shitting on Ouija board, I won't fucking touch one in a serious manner. You know what I mean? Like I just because it's still that possibility But also we know mass hysteria mass hysteria and kind of like mass hallucinations and body delusions Do happen and amongst you know, maybe people kids kids who are easily scared All it takes is one weird thing and it could spiral out of control and they all think they might be haunted or something Right, so it could be either or obviously, but I still won't fucking actually touch a
Starting point is 01:33:25 Ouija board in a serious. I don't like, you know, I don't like, you know, to base the cross or the Quran ever either. You know what I mean? It's not because I'm a believer or something. I just, you know, it's something of spiritual significance to some people. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but. I guess it's a fad right now. Maybe there's some sort of satanic panic type situation going on over there. I'm not sure, but I just thought it was interesting that in two places
Starting point is 01:33:52 in the same country, a similar thing happened. And in both cases, the first place that anybody's mind went to was we're going to be. We're not ruling out that it was a Ouija board. Amen. Maybe I'm missing some sort of pop culture thing that happened in Columbia that is like you use the wheezy board and you faint. You know, I don't know. I don't know. I genuinely like we've talked about on the show before how like the language barrier
Starting point is 01:34:14 sometimes just completely reframes the entire perception of the paranormal field. Oh, 100%. So it absolutely does. It's I don't know. I agree. It's fascinating. Certainly. I'm I won't touch like you said, I have that respect and fear still of like fucking with one So I enjoy having one for decoration though. That's just illuminati on it. It's cool. So that's cool. Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:33 Yeah, I think a spirits gonna come through it No way in a million in a million billion years is a spirit gonna be like a spirit would try to possess my brain And I would just like mentally spar it and win okay Yeah, that's fucking success mindset right there. I love that. Thank you. Yeah, that's some we back next week Everybody yeah, that's my gigabit giga Chad galaxy problem that I can hear slicing through the air like a blade We'll be back next week with another mini-sode as we shamble on toward the 150 mark of mini-sodes. Thank you guys so much for listening. We appreciate the support on Patreon. We couldn't do it without you.
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