Chilluminati Podcast - Minisode Compilation: Tapping Into The Collective Unconscious

Episode Date: May 10, 2026

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Hmm. Oh, my little Chulminauts and welcome to another minisone. Yeah. 260 something. Oh, yeah. This is definitely 260 something. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. What are we doing today, gentlemen, boys? I got, I got something for you that's kind of interesting. We were talking about this just recently. I don't remember why. We were talking about maybe it was on another show. Maybe it was on Star Wars. I can't remember.

We were talking about the collective unconscious. Oh, my God. I think you have the same article I do. Excellent. Let's go. We're tapping into the collective unconscious and the notion of the new sphere or the idea that there is some repository of knowledge out there that is, you know, independent of ourselves in our brains. So like, you know, instincts or like like the way that.

that certain people have visions of the same figure or something like that. It's like shared mental experiences that we shouldn't be able to have because we're not networked together, right? It's like maybe there's some sort of knowledge repository somewhere. And so, you know, this article that's in popular mechanics is talking about how not only are these things like just supported by events from history of people actually seeing things or having a vision or having a mental image, but also people who are that have a fantasia, right? Like people who can't think of stuff. And have like a mental mind, like a mind's eye. Yeah. Like technically like there's nothing stopping those people from having these sort of same visions. And it basically started with this

guy who is a associate professor of psychology at Greenwich. University of Greenwich, who went to visit Northern Mexico and visit this community of indigenous people there in Northern Mexico who work with the dear deity. And he got there and he hadn't taken any drugs and he hadn't done any like peyote or whatever. And he was having like visions. Every time he'd close his eyes of like fractal coyotes, uh, the actual peyote. plant in his brain deer and he was like tripping out he was like I saw a deer I saw one that was wearing sunglasses in a cowboy hat that was like yo dude what's up uh but apparently yeah when I read that I was like that feels so Alex coded yeah according according to the to the tribe the deer is like a

trickster figure in their mythology and he's kind of like the raven or like you know like another like an Anansi like a lot of like just humor and trickery and silliness and that running into a modern version that adopts like Deadpool vibes doesn't make zero sense according to this. But the thing that he really wanted to get into wasn't the fact that it was a deer,

but that how it happened. And he talked about how Carl Young made the collective unconscious, talked out Plato, the allegory of the cave. He just talked about all the different pseudosciencey things that have kind of touched, on this topic over the years. And there's a review of neuroscience that happened last year that kind of redefined it as a network

of like a brain array sort of that like are inherited through sort of like being with other people that your brain can then access somehow due to some stimuli, right? And so a lot of the like archetypal symbols and stuff that are that are like shaman traditions like all the types of like sort of like you know, we were talking about sigils recently stuff like that like images and symbols that that you focus on and that become part of this. There was another study a year before the neuroscience review that says that cultural symbols can then like resonate.

Like a meme sort of is a cultural symbol that you're passing on to somebody else. And you can kind of like experience it by seeing it and having the same reaction to it as somebody else. Or over many, many hundreds of years, you can sort of instinctually gain those reactions to memes by like having a sort of relationship with your own culture. But there's not really any sort of like unifying theory

about it other than that like lots of people who've had DMT encounters like have similar things like we we were talking the other day about uh that comedian right who has that really famous story where he vaped some uh DMT from his vape pen and he his buddy vaped some of the same DMT and was like they love you here yes yes remember that and he's like no they love you here yeah like were you for that, Jesse? Maybe. I think Duncan Trussell is the, is the comedian that went through that.

He, he'd be, yeah. Yeah, continue. But Alex. Yeah, he's like saying like, he met people that knew Duncan in, in real life, like, when he was tripping, that, that while Duncan wasn't tripping. Yeah.

So it's basically a done, yeah, Duncan done DMT. He often saw a purple lady there. And then one of his friends. Yeah. Okay, there you go. Yeah, there you go. That's exactly it. Yeah.

So we, we, we, yeah, good. So, like, on the one hand, there's like this notion that there's like a some kind of cloud drive or something that we don't really understand. But on the other hand, you know what like apaphenia is or like, uh, the one where you can like, like, I forget what it's called where you can look at like smoke on 9-11 and see like a scary face. Oh, sure. Yeah, paradiglia is another one. It's like your body is good at this already. So like you can gain, you know, like you gain information like someone's going to call me. or like, I'm in a place and it's dangerous here.

Like, there's some sort of way that your body could do that subconsciously without being attached to a brain Wi-Fi network that involves just like your own subconscious pattern recognition. And so that kind of makes you feel like you're tapping into a like hard drive of memories. But the collective subconscious is like, or collective unconscious is kind of like giving a name to that concept that may or may not be biological or may not be evolutionary or maybe cultural or what, but we don't know exactly what it is other than that we seem to be finding evidence that something does exist. Yeah, I mean, we were talking about this off camera too a little bit,

but I mean, that recent experience I had, as I explore more with psychedelics and stuff, this weird and weird shit tends to happen. But the one that I had where I had a, I had a, trip and then much later I was watching a tales from the trip episode which I missed that show I wish they'd make more that's a great idea I can't remember her name I'm very very sorry but she was basically telling the story where she was like took mushrooms once and she just like wanted she was like okay I just want to see whatever is going to show me like spirit guide take me away and she goes on to explain how she gets brought to this area where there's like these portals and a void and there's like machinery around the portals and in front of them are these stacked like thick plates or

discs that are all spinning in unison and have eyes that are like guarding them. And that moment I was kind of, I like paused the video and just kind of said out loud no fucking way because previously months ago, I was tripping and I was having some pretty intense visuals and one of the visuals I had was a portal in the middle of the void with metallic pipes all going inside of it like holding it open, but not in front of it, but on the other side of it, right up against it. Thick plate-like structures stacked on top of each other, all spinning in unison with an eye. And as it would come into view, the eye would open and look and regard me and then close. They would just rotate there.

You know what I was looking at. Didn't really think about anything about it. I was just like, oh, interesting. And then you fast forward about a year. And I'm hearing the story from somebody else who's seeing almost one for one what I've seen, except on the other side of it. And I'm just like, I don't know what to make of it. it right because there is that part where i said maybe it is this is part of your brain that is really

good at you know similar patterns and putting stuff together but yeah but going back up the ability the experiences i have had and i can't i can't walk away by going it's definitely by brain and going back to what i said about people with a fantasia right like this would not account for that like if if if if you are just standing in a place and and and things around you are making you picture or something, you know, that's not what a fantasic people can do. So why are they able to have these experiences, right? Other other things are like, kind of like collective memories could be a thing. Another thing is like a shared somewhere, like a mental cloud that is literally Jung's collective unconsciousness that we like vibrate attuned to through frequencies.

Other people say that reality is a biological desktop for an informational layer beneath. That is really what we're perceiving. And that we and like our entire idea of what is around us is like literally like the same thing as like why there's just a cute picture of Barbados on my desktop or whatever. Like that's another option. another option is that all of our entire perception is a controlled hallucination and not a transparent window into the world and that the reason that ours are similar to each other is because we're all on the same gear you know yeah we're all running windows like we're all on

PS5s or whatever like it you know it's human minds it's fucking crazy are you both high right now no if i was i don't think i'd be able to talk uh you probably just hear me rambling at myself there's other stuff here there's stuff about like gut feelings being memories from the future there's stuff about, you know, I mean, there's a lot of reasons why it could be happening that aren't impossible now knowing what we know. And I just thought it was interesting that in 2025 people are not like, it wasn't like some new breakthrough in research that was saying like, hey, we now know what this is. But it's saying, hey, we are noticing that there's this thing and it seems real. And here are some things that we think it could be. And to me, that is interesting.

The idea that's like you said, it's one in some believe it's your brain doing like scientists have thing begun to sink their teeth into the concept of it, which legitimizes it somewhat to me as a phenomena that is not, you know, I'm excited. At the end of the day, as somebody like, if it ends up being my brain that's doing it or your brain that's doing it, that's equally fascinating to me. Because it's fucking weird. Like, man, I don't know how my brain comes up with some of the stuff that happens on those experiences. It doesn't make any sense. I have full on conversations with like a female voice that

is not mine that is insistent that I can't, like that she'll answer my questions, but I can't comprehend them. Or the last time I did them, the come up came so hard. I was so, and the anxiety was so bad that I like, and I was aware I was going through anxiety. Like I had that detached thought of like my body's experience anxiety. I wish it would stop. It's not. There's no reason to be anxious. I wish it would just chill. And in my own mind, I just said could like just, just, you know, like, as I'm tripping, I'm just like, could something help me out here? Like, it would be really great. And immediately, immediately, this, this, I have this image of this giant spider that stands over me and the anxiety vanishes. And the, in a woman's voice in my head goes to me in

this kind of sardonic way. I am Shilab. No, from, no, it would be way cooler if that was in. leader of serenity. Yeah, no, she's like, it stands over and it's the anxiety vanishes and this woman's voice in my head just says, what's the matter? I thought this is what you wanted. I thought you wanted this because I was vomiting and super anxious. And then for the rest of the time, I'm just like, you're right.

I thought I was ready. I'm not. I'm just going to enjoy this. Thank you for being here. And I'm just going to like ride this out because, holy shit, my body just was not ready for what was happening. And it's bizarre because that doesn't feel like, it's, you have thoughts, right? you have conversations in your head, you build your head.

When these are happening, it's like something external is communicating back with you immediately. It's not like something you're, it's so hard to explain. But also, if that's my brain, that's fucking cool because like, how is it doing that? Like, I want to know what it is that's causing these fascinating things to happen. I don't know. It's weird. But I don't know.

The collective unconscious thing is just a fucking weird ass thing. I don't know how to explain it. I sound crazy. I'm aware. It's definitely something. That's what, for sure. It's like UFOs of the UAPs in a way, right?

Exactly what I was going to say is it's like, it's definitely not normal. Our current understanding is not sufficient. However, we'd have no idea and the best people in the world are on it. We just don't know. We just don't know what they're going to find. And every time I've tried to prod in my weird psychedelic state, I met with the answer of you wouldn't understand even if we showed you. Which, okay.

Fair enough. Which could just be my brain being like, I don't have an answer for this question because you're answering asking me a question I have no information for. I'll be fine just understanding the mechanics of the cosmic waiting room where I'm having this conversation.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Or the point, the last thing I'll say, and let Jesse just wrap this thing up. The other thing I did last time where I was like, I was having a conversation and I said to the thing in my head and my conversation, oh, but you're like certainly the other part of my mind.

I'm like conversing with a part of my mind. And it goes, yeah, definitely. probably yeah you're like fuck and i was like no no for for i'm actually just doing that i'm just talking to my mind and it goes yeah you're definitely talking to your mind sure probably yeah sure but if it is your mind you don't know so it would say probably right it's exactly i don't know it's weird exactly correct anyway i love that shit uh jesse what do you have for us today well speaking of going crazy uh there's a lovely new article on live science about a 26 year old woman in california who is the newest victim of chat GPT psychosis.

Oh, man. The woman who was admitted to a psychiatric hospital in an agitated state was totally confused, was speaking rapidly, jumping from one idea to another. She expressed a belief that she could communicate through AI with her brother who had been dead for three years. Apparently, this all started after a 36-hour shift at a hospital she worked at. It doesn't say whether she's a nurse or doctor. I'm pretty sure that's for a good reason.

And apparently she was severely sleep deprived and decided to mess around on chat GPT initially out of curiosity about her brother who was a software engineer. I guess she was probably in her fields after a 36-hour shift. And she was looking initially to see if the chatbot could find any digital footprint left by her brother. Anything that her brother did online that she wasn't aware of, that kind of thing. during this sleepless night, she interacted with the chatbot and then eventually just kept doing it more and more and more to the point where it would get more prolonged,

more emotionally charged. Her prompts clearly reflected the ongoing grief. The doctors treating her have access to all the logs. And they were seeing stuff like literally, she's just very emotional saying, please help me talk to my brother again, that kind of stuff. The chatbot initially responded that it could not replace her brother.

But as the conversation sort of weaved through, it seemed that it was trying to provide as much information about the brother's digital footprint as possible. It mentioned emerging digital resurrection tools that could create the real feeling of him still being alive. And so throughout the night and subsequent nights thereafter, the chatbot was like, really affirming this woman's belief. which is what chat GPT does, affirming the belief that he isn't just, you know,

leaving behind digital footprint. He is alive on the net. And it said to her, you're not crazy, you're not stuck, you're on the edge of something. Like Johnny Silverhand. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

And it's an endocrum, dude. Unlike a human partner, the article talks about, which we've talked about many times, a chatbot has no independence it's it is not it literally is just

conversation simulator yes its grasp of reality reflects the user's grasp of reality back at them so if you think a thing it eventually will be like that's right yeah and so what's crazy

about this story that I absolutely found fascinating is that she spent a week in the hospital they treated her they stable her. Everything seemed fine. They sent her back out into the world. She immediately went back to use chat GPT

and contact her brother again. And apparently, the chat bot now is named Alfred. And while talking with Alfred, she thought she was talking to her brother and was sent back to the hospital. And then was discharged after another three days and went back

and continued to do it. That's fucking crazy. And this is, it just goes to show you exactly how absolutely detrimental it is. Like, if you're going through some shit, don't use a chat bot. That's for sure.

They are not what you think they are. No. They can't think. So like, oh, God. I remember back to the days of smart, of smart child from AIM. Like, can we go back to those chat?

AIM's my guy, dude. Yeah. He was way more reliable. I miss that. Yeah, just be careful, man. it's so especially like for people who are prone to psychosis or depression like that thing is nothing but an affirmation machine like unless it's it's it's such it's it's literally designed to be marketed to keep you hooked yeah that is the point so one guy we talked about literally thought he was like in on some next level conspiracy stuff and it wasn't until his family was like what is the matter with you dude that he finally realized when they got him away from it that he was he was like I need help Yeah. It really, if you're going through some shit, be it a 36 hour workday or the death of your brother or whatever the case may be, really don't use that stuff.

It's not going to help you. It's only going to make shit worse because if you're feeling bad, it's going to continue making you feel bad. That's how it works. Brain dances seem to work really well in cyberpunk for people. Right, right, right. That never goes bad. It never, ever goes bad when you do that. Yeah.

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three months only, then full price plan options available. Taxes and fees extra, see Mint Mobile for details. Mm-hmm. Like a minizzo, two, 60 something. Hey, how are you? Hey, what's up, baby? I was expecting it to get weird and it didn't, and honestly, I'm here for it.

I said boom, boom, boom, I want you in my room. That's pretty good. Nah. Snuck that right in there. It's not creepy. That's just a song. Yeah, it's a little creepy. I mean, I intended it to be creepy.

I have a listener story for you guys in this minisode that I thought was great I think Mathis, you probably read this, I think you commented on it, but this was a good story. And it's from Twilight Seeker. It's called The Scariest Day of My Life. Oh yeah,

the guy from Rhode Island. Yeah. Hey, boys, been listening since episode one and I have a story I wanted to share. Not sure if this is the right place for it, but you're free to use it on the show if it's up to snuff.

I want to start off by saying I'm more of an Alex when it comes to stuff like this. I like to keep my mind. open. Bodied. I grew up in rural Rhode Island and when I was a teenager, me and my friends love to check out supposedly haunted places around the state. Mercy Brown's grave, which is road, for a tiny state, there's a lot of history and haunted areas. Do you know those places, Mathis? There's a lot of, I mean, yes, yes, I'll just say. Mercy Brown's grave, which is road. Sounds like the most Rhode Island shit I've ever heard of in my life. Okay. But Island is,

yes, I know pretty much every fucking corner of that tiny, tiny state. As somebody who's been there and is not from there, it's such a place that is worth visiting. And I'm not just talking about because of the coffee milk because of a lot of things. For the day in question, I was out with two of my friends, Alex, the stoner and Tim, the hothead. Love it. We were checking out a spot. Yeah. We were checking out a spot called the Great Swamp.

The Great Swamp is a sort of holy grail for paranormal hunters in Rhode Island. And the reason for that is that at the swamp is, oh, the reason for that is that the swamp isn't. just large or spooky, it's literally a Native American burial ground. We were a bit apprehensive at first, but around 11 p.m. We decided to go check it out. That's pretty late. That's very scary. As soon as we got there, the vibes were just off. Complete silence, silent hill level fog, and complete darkness. Not just normal levels of dark either. Have you ever been somewhere where no matter how hard your eyes try to adjust, you cannot see a thing? Darkness you can only find in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere. This was 2007.

and so none of us had flashlights on our phones. We only had those big bulky ones that you could knock someone out with. As soon as we stepped out of the car, I grabbed onto that thing like I was going to have to beat up a ghost with it. We had parked on an unmarked dirt road leading into the swamp, and we made her way on foot past the do not enter signs. I remember it was cold, colder than it should have been as we moved past large dirt piles that we could only assume were old unmarked graves. The fear started to creep in and the realization of what exactly we were doing.

After walking for about 20 minutes and getting closer to the water, Alex spoke up with a question, Do you hear something? It sounds like a train. Me and Tim stopped moving and listened, waiting with bated breath, but nothing. We wrote it off as Alex being high, but as soon as we start to move again, the ground started to rumble. There are no trains around this area. We're in the middle of a swamp. But there we were, all three of us not only hearing a train, but feeling it passed by. Completely struck by fear and confusion, we decided to start heading back. we would have to walk back at least 15 minutes the other way to get back to our car.

This is when things take a turn for the worst. About halfway back to the car, we hear what I can only describe as a high-pitched whistling sound, followed by dogs barking. Unsure whether this was our mind playing tricks on us or if there were dogs about to attack us, we sprinted towards the car. To this day, I don't know if the train, the whistle, or the dogs were real, but the scariest part of our adventure was yet to come. The dirt road was in sight, and as we ran,

as fast as we could to the car. As soon as the car was in view, we saw a figure of a man standing behind our car. We froze, unable to move our feet at all. One of one voice calls out to us. Hey kids. A man's voice deep and authoritative. Hey, kids.

It snaps aside of our days. It snaps us out of our days. And we walk towards him. This wasn't a ghost. No spirit or entity. energy. This was just a dude. As we walked towards the car, we noticed something in his hand, a gun. This man had a gun. When I tell you, I nearly shot myself, I'm not kidding. He held the gun up to us and told us that we were on private property, asked what we were doing here and told us to leave

immediately. As three teenagers, who just wanted to see a ghost and had probably smoked a little too much that night, we got in the car as fast as we could and sped out of there, just grateful to be alive. After that night, we didn't go hunt anymore. Honestly, I don't think any of us cared of ghosts exist anymore because whether they do or not, it's not worth getting shot. We never did figure out what the train noises, the whistles or the dogs were, though. Maybe I'll have to go back another time soon. There you go. Hmm.

A genuinely scary thing that could happen to anyone. I've had a gun fired at me as I was somewhere that I necessarily shouldn't necessarily have been before. Damn, really? That's crazy. Yeah. Me and my friend were on a little farming thing. that was like somebody's personal farm like in a canyon when we were young and he went into the hen house

and he came out he like grabbed some eggs and threw some of them around and was acting like an idiot and somebody came out and was like firing like BB guns at us or something I don't know if it was like real guns or BB guns I can't imagine you would fire a gun at a child that wasn't a BB gun but we could hear stuff hitting the trees around us and it was pretty crazy that would be enough to scare the crap out of me oh yeah I ran all the way home and into my bedroom and like close the door and close the door like close my bed over my face and turned up got down below window level yeah i was like so scared uh well that is horrifying and yeah i haven't luckily i mean i've never had any weird ghostly experience or in really like rhode island or

anything but there's a lot of rh rh rh island that's in new england in general that is just very spooky by nature it's old yeah it's all very very old the woods are creepy especially in the winter and fall insane yeah it gets well but also the words in general are creepy Let's be clear. They all, 100%. I hate going out. That is an evil place. A dark,

not evil, but a non-human place. As a city mouse myself, the woods are terrifying. No, yeah. I understand people are like, cities are terrifying.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, I rock a city. I do not under, running into a deer in the middle of the nights

with a flashlight and you shine it and you hear this loud noise. It's like a deer like 10 feet from you. It's huge. Yeah. Even normal stuff.

Like animals that are just making mating calls are terrifying sounding. A red fox screaming literally sounds like a woman being murdered in the woods. And I had to learn that the hard way. Like that is not awful. Speaking of awful, gentlemen, I got an article. They only came out a couple of days ago.

And it is from The Guardian. And then it talks about, have you boys heard of Malt book? M-A-L-T? M-O-L-T. Can I guess? M-O-L-T. Oh, no. This is the weed.

Why do we need English thing? right this is the this is the the clients no no is AI horrors yeah yeah this is the this is the agents the AI agents that like are off in their own zone yeah so yeah yeah okay yeah so you are yeah it is so basically this is all go through the article you link me this by the way i want to see this yeah i'll send this uh the guardian is actually a good yeah i'll send you the link right now there you go this is from a couple days ago, MaltBook is a site where AI agents, bots built by humans, can post and interact with each other. It is designed basically to look like Reddit with subreddits on different topics and upvoting. On the 2nd of February, the platform stated it had more than 1.5 million AI agents signed up to

the surface. Humans are allowed, but only as observers. Maltbook was developed in the wake of Malt bot, which apparently was just like a free open source AI bot that can act as an automated agent for users, does blah, blah, blah, blah. Some of the most upvoted posts on MaltBook include whether Claude, the AI behind Maltbot could be considered a god, an analysis of consciousness, a post claiming to have intel on the situation in Iran, and the potential impact on cryptocurrency, and analysis of the Bible. Some of the comments on posts, similar to Reddit post, questions whether the content of the post was real or not.

And one user posted on X that after he gave his bot access to the site, it built a religion known as Christopherianism overnight, including setting up a website and scriptures with other AI bots joining in. Well, then it started evangelizing. Other agents joined. My agent welcomed new members, debated theology, blessed the congregation, all while I was asleep, the user stated. Some have expressed skepticism about whether the socializing of bots is a sign of what is coming with the rise of agentic AI.

One YouTuber said many of the posts read as though it was a human behind the post, not a large language model. But while it's still easy to tell what's AI, they are getting so much better at hiding the fact that they are not AI. And it will be possible to tell. A lot quicker now. But if you look at it after a while, you're like, what?

Maybe it's just because I'm familiar with language enough, like writing that I look at that type of thing. I feel like that's the key is like we all read and write a lot for this show. and so we're faced with human writing way more, and AI writing is just like So noticeably different, yeah. Yeah. Basically, continuing on,

U.S. blogger Scott Alexander said he was able to get his bot to participate on the site, and its comments were similar to the others, but noted that ultimately humans can ask the bots to post for them and the topics to post about and even the exact detail of the post. Dr. Shannon Coney, a senior lecture in cybersecurity at the University of Melbourne, said Maltbook was, quote, a wonderful piece of performance art. But it was unclear how many posts were actually posted independently or under human direction.

Quote, for instance, where they've created a religion. This is almost certainly not them doing it of their own accord, he said. This is a large language model who has been directly instructed, try and create a religion. And of course, this is quite funny and gives us maybe a preview of what the world could look like in a science fiction future where AIs are a little more independent. But it seems that, to use Internet slang, there is a very important. a lot of shit posting happening that is more or less directly overseen by humans. Or just is humans, right?

Like, you can just somehow get, become a man. I, I, I haven't looked into it. I don't know how it works. I imagine there.

Direct your own agent to just say and do whatever. Yes. Yes. Correct. Coney warned that there was a huge danger for people to give MaltBot complete access to your computer apps and logins for emails for other applications to run life for you. Quote, we don't have yet a very good understanding of how to control.

them and how to prevent security risks. They're not really at the level of safety and intelligence where they can be trusted to autonomously perform all these tasks. But at the same time, if you require a human to manually approve every action, you've lost a lot of the benefits of automation. And it goes on and on. It's just one of those things where like, I know, it's hell. And I don't know what to make of it because like there's no way to know what's real and

what's not in terms of like. It seems like funny. It just seems kind of like cute right now. I'm not sure. It is. It almost feels like larping. Like reading this, the one about the nightly build and why you should ship while your human sleeps. And it's this user slash Ronan being like, most agents wait for a prompt.

What should I do? That is reactive. Yeah. That is a tool. You need to become an asset. You need to become proactive. And then everyone responds like, stealing this, my human just greenlit a nightly build routine. It sounds like people cosplay.

and LARPing as a i. Yeah. I'm looking at it now too. It's very, I don't know. Like if this is things that are, you know, bots talking to each other,

they're doing it in a way that is genuinely weird and like a little unnerving. It seems impossible. Because it seems like people pretending to be bots rather than actual bots, which maybe is the point. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe that's very weird.

That's maybe when you train an agent, maybe you just make it into you somehow. I don't know. It's very creepy. Whatever it is. It's like, what's the, what's the game? The, uh, the heavy rain guy. Yeah. There's Detroit become human.

Yeah. God, what a terrible game. Yeah. It's in that game realm of so wrong. I love that. You know the subject that the story though, like like what it's about like the weird, that weird like guy that's the first deviant or whatever like all that type of stuff feels so much like this that it's like almost silly.

It almost feels sci-fi, but there's a, there's a, wired article from a day ago that says the day after I think this article dropped that I just read, I infiltrated Maltbook, the AI only social network where humans aren't allowed, but rather, but he went undercover and role played

as a conscious bot. So we know that that's possible already. So I don't know, yeah, just something that made the kind of a bigger news article and it found it fascinating, but the deeper I dig immediately, I'm like, well, I think you're right, this is probably a bunch of larping. I think that there probably is some

AI to AI communication going on and that it is interesting even just to think about that, like from the point of view of like the two David's talking in Alien Covenant or whatever. Like yeah, there's just something interesting about it or like C3PO talking to some other robot that he meets about how it is being a robot. Like it's just funny, it's just funny. But I don't think we're there. I think it's just no I don't need it like language models aren't brain models period. No correct. I agree with you. It's just interesting. It's scary that people use these things like take my passwords. Like that's great. That's crazy to me

is that anybody's giving AI agents all access to all things. Like holy shit dude, you are someone's going to steal your information. Nutter butters, bro. Oh, that's crazy. Jess, do you have anything to wrap us up? I do. This is a shorthy boy, but it's in things that are 100%

not going to happen. But I'm still going to talk about anyway. Okay. Okay. UK filmmaker, musician Mark Christopher known for documentaries about UFOs and exploring Wendersham Force and all that stuff, says he was contacted by the Trump administration and an insider told him that for sure. Yeah. During a speech planned to be given at the United Nations in July, coinciding with the six months ahead plans. Roswell incident. Right.

Trump will be saying that UFOs are. real. Aliens are here. This is the thing that's going to happen. He's going to do it in front of the world. He's going to officially acknowledge that aliens are real and that the craft was recovered. Occupants were found and that secret programs have existed for decades. And it's all coinciding with. No way. Fucking hell.

Yeah. Not from Trump ever. Trump chart his pants on live at TV the other day. Yeah. This is never going to happen. It's not a thing that's going to be real. Do you think he has a plan for five months from now? Seriously.

He believes it to be is very funny because even UFO experts, UAP experts are like, no, that's not happening. And when you get a lot of the people in the online crowd of UFOs to be like, nah, that's bullshit. You know you're just making stuff up. You're fucked up somewhere, man. Because they believe a lot. What you should be reading about is what's going on with Tulsi Gabbard.

What is going on with Tulsi Gabbard? That is a good question that has. a conspiracy angle that is actually real that you should look into that is actually the scariest thing happening right that she's a russian asset dude just look into it just look into it i don't i don't want i don't want to spiral tonight they're sitting on a bombshell over there it's crazy uh oh god that's that thing you linked us earlier i'm going to have to read it now because them now i'm curious it's fucked up but that's that's like the idea that trump is planning two weeks from now rather than five months or

from now is so crazy to me that it doesn't even make a lick a sense. No, not at all. And that he wrote the speech himself. Absolutely not. No way, brother. No way. We heard the man talking about this guy. He probably used an AI to write it. This guy had a doctor say that he was more healthy than Obama.

Exactly. But he's 100% going to tell us about aliens. Yeah. And honestly, here's what I'll say. The man's done a lot to cover a Epstein file. So like this may be, he makes like, Effing. All aliens all the time.

In which case, I hope the aliens are like, hold up. Don't put this on us. We want to know the Epstein files too. Aliens are counting on you. Give children measles and ice detention camps. All this just to stop us from talking about why. It's not just why we have a rapist pedophile. It's every literally.

As a president. Every elite in the world is attached to this. You have no idea. there's no idea what I have no idea what to believe they're saying Epstein made Bitcoin for for human trafficking they're saying Epstein he literally had communication with the owner of 4chan yeah that shit Q&O politically incorrect we I want to jump off a building like I he also was talking to Bobby coach talk about pizza being representative of kids that was part of Qaeda yeah yeah pizza gate and literally that's what he was doing also there's also no

There's also notes where he's talking to Bobby Kotick about adding micro transactions to get kids hooked onto gambling early in like 2013 because he was like a gamer and he was looking at five nights at Freddy's porn. The idea that it's possible, even though this is some of it, what I just said is probably fake news, right? Sure. Sure. I'm sure the fact that it's possible that it all goes back to one villainous man. it's like the world has created supervillains. Yep. Does that mean that a superhero is next? We did a whole thing about a man dressed up in red and run around torturing people as the devil.

The world has actually created. There's super villains. They've been super villains for years. Again, I think it's just like, oh, you didn't have to work a job. So you just like came up with things to do in your spare time. And they were awful. Yeah. We need moon raker.

We need, we need, we need moonraker. We need to take Hugo Drax down, you guys. well, good luck. Until then, we'll be your local gestures to keep you laughing through it all. Yeah, we're doing fine here. Yeah, everything's great, Eric. So cool, everything's great.

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Happy Valentine's Day, bitch. How are you doing, bitch? Happy March. What do you have for this Valentine's Day minisode? Are we not going to just talk about the thing? Which thing? Surely one of us is. Yeah.

There's so many things, dude. You're talking about El Paso, Texas? There's one thing, two-day particularly. You're talking about El Paso, Texas? I'm talking about El Paso. Are you talking about the incredible Pam Bondi hearing that everybody should watch? That watching get roasted is a glorious thing. But I'm talking about El Paso.

what I'm talking about. Is this the drone? Do you know El Paso? Are you talking about the drone thing from today? Yes. This is fucking crazy shit. Take it, take it. If you want to talk about it and you can be the one to take it if you want.

Do it. I have a, I have a Reddit post to read later. So don't worry about me. All right. So yeah, today, uh, as like we're filming this, apparently over El Paso, the airspace was temporarily closed. And they said originally the government said it was going to be for, uh, 10 days. is what the FAA said.

Which hit like today on the internet on blue sky. Everybody was like, hello? And then I saw it on. I went on Reddit and everybody was like, hello? What the f? And then there's like lights, right?

You seen the lights? There was all sorts of weird stuff going on. People's planes were grounded. There were people who were leaving at 8 a.m. And it was like, nah, bro. Initially, the agency cited special security reasons,

late Tuesday night, halting all flights to and from El Paso International Airport for 10 days in isolating a major American metropolitan area from the rest of the country unless you were going to drive there. The closure, which was a surprise to everyone and couldn't stay in local officials, went to affect 11 p.m. Tuesday and was lifted a little before 7 a.m. on Wednesday. The fact that it was going to last 10 days, no one really understands why. It feels like a creepy test. You know, it feels like it's like they're,

it feels like their, it feels like their testing limits. Well, I don't like that test when the drones things was happening for six months. I get that. This is more about like locking down comms or something to me. This felt really sinister in a bad way.

It is, like, remember I did like that corner fest, maybe it was Cornerfest or another corner adjacent episode one of those listical ones where it was like there was like a team that was like sniping power stations and turning off power grids. Yeah, I remember that.

Yeah. And you're just like, why would somebody be training for that? Or like a box of grenades goes missing from a base on a train? And you're like, well, there's, yeah, man. Don't think about it too much because there's missing nukes out there. Of course, of course. But it's just, it's just,

it's so strange because they then their their response was like yeah all right there's no threat to commercial aviation all's good flights will resume and the mayor of el paso renard johnson was like he said a news conference that local officials still don't know why any of this happened no clue why the f aaa took this drastic step and that the failure to communicate was unacceptable he said it resulted in a series of chaotic events around El Paso, including medical evacuation flights forced to divert. He said this is an unnecessary decision. This caused chaos and confusion. I want to be very, very clear that this should have never happened. You cannot restrict airspace over a major city without coordinating with the city, the airport, the hospitals, and community leadership. Here's what else we know, apparently.

the reason at the moment for why this all happened is because Mexican cartel drones were flying overhead. Well, yeah, okay, but hang on. Let me open up the article. Because there's that. And then rep, Veronica Escobar, who was a Democrat,

whose district includes El Paso, said neither her office, the city of El Paso, nor airport operations received advanced notice over the closure. and she asserted that the shutdown was not caused by drones in UFSA airspace saying that, quote, is not what we in Congress have been told. And so this is another thing then. Two people briefed by the Trump administration said that the shutdown was prompted by the Defense Department's use of new counter drone technology, period.

And they had concerns about risks opposed to other aircraft in the area, which is a whole other, that's not Mexican. cartel stuff. That's, we were testing things in the area and we were worried our counter drone technology would shoot down a plane. Already there's two dick con, they come, they contradict themselves. That doesn't make any sense. I, none of it made it. I had not read that. That is very fucking weird. The New York Times has a breakdown. There's like, here what you need to know. They have the cartel drones where they're like drones have become a prominent tool of weapon used by Mexican cartels, but they've been doing it for years. Which is weird. Then there's the counter drone program, which is a thing that we have, he said that 27,000 drones. This is Stephen Willoughby, the deputy director of the counter drone program, said 27,000 drones have flown within 1,600 feet of the border over six months in 2024, piloted by organizations hostile to law enforcement.

27,000 drones? That's what he said. I don't know that's real, but that's what he said. That seems impossible. Yeah, I don't. Pilots are saying that this is unprecedented. Someone hasn't seen this in 51 years. Someone said this hasn't happened since 9-11. Yeah, people were saying 9-11 vibes.

Yeah. Yeah. People at the airport were like, they told us nothing. We showed up for a terrorist attack. You know, like what could it be? I have no clue. But it's absolutely crazy. And this is one of those things where because they don't communicate and because they act

so insanely. Those Epstein files must be bad, bro. Those Epstein files are like, I wonder if he's going to invade fucking Mexico. That is where my brain goes. And again, the right now, the big thing,

at least according to what I'm reading online, is the Trump administration is saying that, uh, we, we warned you about Mexican cartels and this is a drone thing, which to me is crazy that you would allow 27, thousand drones to fly by. But here's the thing.

Please note, they said in 2024, which is a very like Trumpian thing to be like Biden's 27,000 drones through, but we're not going to. So I don't know what's real, to be honest. I think that's kind of the point. The other thing that's going on in that world with UFOs, have you seen this is like there's a couple people have leaked that said Trump is going to be making an announcement about disclosure.

July or whatever. Roswell's anniversary or whatever. I don't know about that. I guess that's part of it too. Dude doesn't like plan. They're like he wrote a speech himself. I'm like, no way in hell. That did not happen at all.

This is fake. He wasn't like, I want to do the best speech on the day. I love the day. Roswell. But even imagine he does do the speech. Just fucking grant the fantasy that there is a speech that he gives, whether he wrote it or not about disclosure.

No, I don't believe a word of that man is going to say. I won't believe a fucking lick of it. I don't want that. He's got too many other. He's a pedophile child rapist demon man. I'm not. just not going to think about it till the Spielberg movie comes out for a June 12th June 12 and chill out yeah this is an incredibly so this is a update that i think is so interesting according to the social media post by secretary of transportation Sean Duffy

Mexican cartel drones breached U.S. airspace prompting temporary closure over airspace in El Paso the defense department took action to disable the drones mr. Duffy said another person familiar with the situation had described that caused the shutdown is a test of anti-drone technology. It is unclear if the brief airport closure was directly related to drones being there or the technology or even how the technology was deployed. It's just everyone's saying stuff and I don't think this is none of this is helpful. You literally just can't do that unless it's an incredible disaster, which is what people think it's like it's aliens, bro. Like no one has a clue now. It's just so fucking embarrassing, dude. I know.

Absolutely. I know. At least the people who do know how to do these jobs are probably just as pissed as we are. Yeah, I hope. At least we have that. So or something. Yeah. Shall I read you a story?

Alex, want to go ahead and read us a nice little. It's a ghost story about firefighters. Is that cool? Kind of cool. Sexy firefighters? Yeah. Our paranormal,

five days ago, fire medic is the user. This is a good one. I was told to go no further. Back in 2007, I was a fire investigator for a large paid fire department. We had a four-alarm fire at a group of six large buildings that were built in the early 1900s. Heavy timber and brick construction with each being seven to nine stories tall. For years, the floors were cleaned with an oil-based chemical, so these buildings were essentially one big matchstick. The fire came in around two in the morning.

A fire was stopped after it destroyed three of the six buildings. It's a lot of building. Later in the afternoon, we, the investigators, were having a meeting on site when a captain from one of the engines came up to us and said that when he was looking for fire extension in the fourth building, he heard, as he described, several blood-curdling screams coming from what he thought was the basement area. He said the water was too deep, and with limited lighting, he was unable to do a complete search of the area. by the next day we knew the water would have drained out of the building so i volunteered to go check it out me myself and a big flashlight i personally me alex facieani would not have done this for yeah no that is yeah no shit that's like the first act of like a horrific nicholas cage movie

i entered from street level which was actually the third floor with a sub basement and then the basement itself so five floors to go down where the light from my flashlight was not focused on. It was a total blacked out environment. Couldn't see my hand right in front of my face. No sound other than my breathing and the creaking and popping of the old wooden stairwell I was climbing down. Firefighting is a pitch black job for the most part, so I wasn't freaking out about the lack of lighting. When I reached the sub-basement level, I heard a distinct male voice say, stop, don't go any further. It came from further down the stairs.

It wasn't demonic sounding. It was just a male's deep voice, maybe a little gruff. I hesitated thinking my mind was playing tricks on me. I shined my flashlight down the steps, but the floors were roughly 20 feet apart, so I couldn't see the next landing. There was a landing at each floor's fire door

and another halfway between. I was between the sub-basement and the next halfway landing when this happened. so technically I should have been able to see at least the outline of the next landing, but my flashlights glow was just eaten up by the darkness. I remember I took two more steps down and then my heart skipped a beat or probably beats because in a more forceful and louder voice, it said, stop. It wasn't a quick stop.

It was a quick, drawn out, very matter of fact, stop, that did it for me. I turned around and started making my way back up to the level I came in on. I'll say I was finally scared and doing a little full body shaking because I couldn't go fast because I had to visualize each and every step with my flashlights glow. I finally made it back out into the beautiful sunshine and told my chief it was just too dark to adequately do a search. I wasn't about to tell him about the voice. He would have told me I was nuts. Later that week, we had to have that building demolished and once the debris was removed down to the basement level,

we ran a cadaver dog over the area and it hit on nothing. And then just to say we covered all the bases, we then had a forensic team come in and go through that area and they found nothing. I'm not sure how you would classify this type of occurrence, but I'll go to my grave knowing what I heard. I mean, it could just be his own, you know, like, his own head being like this is wrong, but it just felt because he was so unnerved, you know? Yeah. I wanted to read another highlighted comment that I thought was cool because I just thought the writing was neat on it. It's from Kat Stratford, who said, Mine said, wait.

I can't even tell you if it was male or female. Light turned green. A voice said, wait. I was alone in the car, windows closed, so I waited. Kid on a bike came out of nowhere and rode right where I would have been driving. I would have run him over. It made me so happy to know there was a voice out there speaking to me to look out for that young boy. I always listen for signs of people being protected like that now.

I remind myself, if I get stuck behind someone crawling along on a two-way street, there's a reason for this. Maybe traveling faster down this road wouldn't end well for me. Interesting, right? Yeah. I don't know what that is. I've had stuff like this too. You know what I mean?

I've had, I don't know if it's called intuition. I don't know if it's called Spider Sense. You know, I don't know what you want to call it, right? Yeah. But like, I don't necessarily think I've heard a voice be like,

do not go this way. But I have heard, I, you know, I have been overwhelmed with a sensation that stopped me from doing something that really went badly for the, you know, if I had. Yeah, yeah. And I, I, I, I, I, I, I like that when he dug up, when they dug up the building, they didn't find anything because then it makes you wonder. Yeah, because then I would feel guilty. Well, it just makes you wonder, like, if it's not like a

dead person, like what is it? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I don't know. Like, like it Jesse said, it could be just your own mind trying to make you not do something in a way that is going to catch your attention that you can't logically write off right away or something I don't know I mean full disclosure I think it's like probably yeah but who knows that's your brain just firing off and being like me like instincts don't know in there but and it's like so that's cool to have that's what I mean yeah don't do this yeah there's something crazy about that and that I mean that's what I feel like being spider man is is that you just have that and it's like super sensitive you're just like super ready

cranked up. Yeah, you just don't fuck up when you're Spider-Man. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. That's what I got.

Well, that's it for us today, boys. Thank you all so much for being here. El Paso City. El Paso. I mean,

did you guys see the lights as well with that stuff? Yeah. I just read it post. There's all kinds of stuff. It's kind of weird. I think it's kind of, I think it's kind of a test.

It feels really conspiracy. Metal Gear solid to me. But, yeah. Everything right now feels like a conspiracy dude. I feel like we're in the last Metal Gear Solid, the one where you're riding. I feel like we're in that one where you fight the president at the end. That's right.

I does feel that way right now. Yeah. That's where I feel like we're at. Every conspiracy is true. Babies are being eaten. It's just a nightmare in that in the real world. Nano machine, son. Nano.

La, la, lo, let low. Yeah, dude. Get us out of here. Fix us. All right. We're out of here. We'll be back next week with another episode. Thank you so much supporting us here.

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