Circling Back - AI-Generated Images & Overlooked Time People of the Year

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, we're back circling back podcast coming to you live presented by busy heart cells are the only heart sets with vitamin c from superfruit acerola my name is will defries to my left david the rough rider rough yeah i don't know if you needed to to punctuate it with rough but i liked it because it's kind of it's it's in the rough rider it's's implied. Hey, Will and Dylan, for that matter. I'm double cupped up over here. I've got dueling Yetis. I've got a water Yeti and a coffee Yeti.
Starting point is 00:00:52 The coffee is black, of course. However, I want to know. I want the people out there to let me know. Does black coffee in a Yeti kind of have a metallic taste to it am i overthinking it my tasting metal i feel like it alters the taste in some capacity i'm not going to disagree with you here i have not noticed that do you drink a lot of black coffee from a yeti i do you don't drink black coffee though you put a lot of stuff in it. No. I drink a lot of coffee from Yeti, from Yetis. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah. My preferred home mug. Not my number one preferred, but I use it a lot. It looks exactly like that one to your left. Second question. Is it weird that when I get a Yeti out of the dishwasher, you know, you occasionally wash it in the dishwasher, top rack. Is it weird that I rinse it out before pouring liquid into it? Because I am afraid I'm going to taste the detergent, the laundry detergent?
Starting point is 00:01:52 No. Okay. I think that's unnecessary, but I don't think it's weird. It's not weird. Okay. Somebody in my household, it's not my dog, it's not my son, just kind of gives me a look like, hey, you're kind of, you're doing a little bit too much there, buddy.
Starting point is 00:02:06 You can never be too safe about the things that you put inside your body, Dave. Yeah, I feel like it compromises the integrity of the beverage and the receptacle. Dylan, for example, eats veggie straws and drinks oat milk. Dylan's shivery, ladies and gentlemen. I do one of those things. I do eat veggie straws. Oat milk, I don't mess with. Too much, too many carbs in that. I'm an almond milk guy. You and I,
Starting point is 00:02:29 I know we've talked about before about how different of waves we're on when it comes to food in general. But our chip game, our snacking, could not be more different. Veggie straws are good.
Starting point is 00:02:40 They are. They're not my favorite chip. They're straws made of veggies, dude. But they're a great salty little snack. Hey, I got a truth bomb I got to drop on you. Did you know that veggie straws are mainly processed potato and vegetable powders? Oh, yeah. I mean, I know they're not healthy.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You kind of gallivant around when you're eating them. Yeah. As if you're doing something very, very healthy. Yeah, you're like, I'll eat them for you all one time, and I throw them away because they went bad. You're like, look at my bagged crudités. It's kind of like- It tasted like paint.
Starting point is 00:03:02 You looked over. I was eating some Cool Ranch Doritos, and you just kind of gave me a, and then you took a bite of your veggie straw. None of what you just said is accurate. You didn't eat Cool Ranch Doritos in front of anybody. Yeah, I do like veggie straws, and I am not ashamed to admit that I like veggie straws. Good.
Starting point is 00:03:21 A lot of times I've been drinking a beverage and said, hey, I wish I had a straw that was made out of a vegetable yeah i do too okay well then you should go to the store and get some pretty good but your anti pretzels pretzels are just they taste like crap it tastes like cardboard like salted cardboard it's the juxtaposition pretzels are only good when you like dip them in something or eat them with stuff like or that those peanut butter filled Pretzels are only good when you dip them in something or eat them with stuff. Or those peanut butter filled pretzels, those are good. How do they even make those?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Do they have a little baster? Veggie straws are definitely in the salted cardboard family if pretzels are there too. They have more flavor than pretzels. I'm going to keep it buck with you. I've never had a veggie straw okay so they're pretty tasty dave okay it's a salty crunchy little snack man
Starting point is 00:04:12 were those uh were those snacks left over from the prior tenants or did we have those here no that was my emergency bag like that i kept in the console of my vehicle from home the the prior tenants left us like what 25 bottles of hot sauce digestive enzymes some gum like we don't need protein protein oh that gum was courtesy of them i actually i actually eat that like three to five times a week um a lot of dishware coffee mugs the hot sauce was just completely unnecessary they had to have had a certified hothead. Were they running from something? About 20 bottles of hand sanitizer. A computer monitor that Brett didn't even offer to anybody else.
Starting point is 00:04:53 He just took it. He just claimed it. Dylan, do you remember when you had about 400 bottles of hand sanitizer? I do, yeah. Remember when Brett just tried to move into the new studio and he just went into the conference room and treated it like his office? I don't remember that. yeah i do oh yeah it was like dude we're not doing this we're not we're not just saying what was he why was he doing we're not just letting you have that's a big dick
Starting point is 00:05:14 baller move it is it is but it's not a move that you can just get away with you got you gotta you gotta let that conference room breathe a little bit. Yeah. Don't read my shit. What, dude? Quit looking at my notes. What? I'm sorry for calling you an oat milk bitch boy yesterday. You're an oat milk bitch boy.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I don't use oat milk. You use creamer, though. I don't lie about my intake stuff. Yeah, I'll use oat milk. I use regular milk. I use raw milk. I don't give a fuck. Prove I use creamer.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Prove it. He does use raw milk. He's told me about it. I've thought thought about getting into it i just don't know if my tum tum's ready we could probably pull the tape and there's probably a clip of you telling dave that his uh chocolate powdered creamer that he buys is uh good you like that shit yeah yeah somebody said it was good like i would use creamer dude you did say it was good uh that's beta activity the worst thing that could have happened to you is nick adams following you because he's gonna see through your your fake alpha this you're gonna start doing the thing like when somebody you really like follows you back
Starting point is 00:06:13 and then like every tweet you put off you're like oh what if they see this what are they gonna think of yeah they're gonna think i'm a loser yeah i might win his alpha man of the alpha male of the week which he gives out i don't think you're only two after after the veggie straw incident yesterday he doesn't believe a beta like you yes he does dude you have a you have a pottery shirt buttoned all the way up you think he's gonna like believe the shit you say oh what me as an american's not allowed to wear a denim shirt no you're allowed i'm not allowed to wear a denim shirt denim is just somehow not american these days you're about that dude you're giving pottery okay some of our earliest some of our earliest american ancestors uh you know made a living using their hands dylan some people still
Starting point is 00:06:50 have you ever seen ghost oh yeah one of the horniest pottery scenes you'll ever see it's probably the horniest it is shouts to to me more did kevin bacon's the original flashlight what did they do i don't i've never seen ghost that's weird that you have not seen ghost i have to say i'll give a phone not weird as in like it's a it's a classic but it does seem like it was up your alley patrick swayze did he show craig he dies no he doesn't you don't get to see any ghost dick he dies can you see ghost dick kids see ghosts we're not doing conge we're not we're just not you're no longer on my person in the year list you fall yeah kanye i removed kanye from my people of the year list as well
Starting point is 00:07:41 more on that later you put nick ad Nick Adams on it? No comment. Hey, we got some hats left. Dylan's wearing one right now. If you're watching on YouTube and or Spotify, a lot of people forget that we have full video on Spotify. There are 10 of these left. You can get washed.
Starting point is 00:07:53 The Navy ones. Rope hats. I don't even have that one. Washedmedia.shop. We got a link in the bio for this. Also, youtube.com slash circling back. Like I said,
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Starting point is 00:08:09 He said they're on vid. Tomorrow, we're doing voicemails 888-618-4422. Again, 888-618-4422. Get in, get out,
Starting point is 00:08:18 be tactical. We're going to be recording those early tomorrow. Do we get to drop the new graphic? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we got a new listener vo the new graphic? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we got a new listener voicemail graphic, not to brag.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Which one do we go with? I don't know. We might have to go with the number of them. I think it might be a grab bag. We got a number of colorways we really are into. Yeah. I got to tell you, that phrase. What?
Starting point is 00:08:41 Colorway. That word. What about it? I don't know, man man it's been overused the the sneaker you just associated with sneakers sneaker heads have really abused that word and ruined it for me i heard barrett say it so i just figured that's how i needed to refer people who use bots to buy sneakers and sell them on a secondary market they say colorway a lot probably i don't buy sneakers on the secondary market i'm very anti i'm sick of the sneak the sneaker situation in this country
Starting point is 00:09:10 i was brave you sick of it what about it that every good-looking sneaker gets snatched up by a bot and you got to pay twice retail for it dude go to the mall you'll see plenty i'm sick of it i'm i'm sick of it that's not even that not, if I was going to be running for office right now, if my platform was being anti-sneaker stuff, that's like, that's buried in my speech at this point. I'm so anti-Golden Goose at this point that that's the platform I'm riding on. We talked about this in the office yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:40 You step up to the podium, you immediately go in on Golden Goose. I immediately go in on Golden Goose. Did you know there's a bar down the street called the golden goose yeah is it open it's probably way better than the uh overpriced beat up sneakers that i see everywhere i don't know he goes there i might catch him straight it looks cool i might catch him strays from some uh washed media adjacent people in our lives aka my wife aka dylan's wife yeah babe turn the turn this off or skip forward for a couple of minutes
Starting point is 00:10:05 like what what explain to the folks at home what you're referring to because i didn't know golden goose sneakers are are some sneakers that cost about six hundred dollars you've seen them around you just didn't know yeah i've got stars on them that are made out of you know might be might be like leopard print they have like little features on them but they all start up they do stars it's they cost six hundred dollars like at the end of the day like you can talk about them and you might think they're cool but they're six hundred dollars and i just can't get behind them and they've somehow become acceptable to wear to like nice restaurants and stuff and and it just shouldn't be this way like what happened to us getting dressed up looking nice now we're just wearing these beat-up ass sneakers
Starting point is 00:10:47 gross i don't know man sounds like you are on the uh you're on the stump a little bit here randy just tossed it on the screen yeah a lot of them are throw up most of them are like distressed out of the box yeah that distress look to all of them and that's it's it's a it's definitely a look i guess there was a time in my life where uh the most difficult uh thing that faced me i was probably 26 was buying jeans that uh like new jeans and they were all like overly distressed y'all the new ones you remember that time period that time period where it's just like you just wanted a normal pair and it's like, well, you have, not only is the knee torn and frayed,
Starting point is 00:11:29 but- Also, the fade patterns on jeans. Yeah, the thigh fade. Yeah. I just wanted some Lee Pipes or some JNCOs. I mean, that's just facts. Just give it to me straight, dog. That's just facts.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Hit me with the twin cannons. I don't need a, he's got like the little crease fades, you know? It's just stupid. It's awful. Like shopping for clothes is so difficult, but like jeans aren't even the worst, dude. What about those old stiff dress shirts that everyone's wearing?
Starting point is 00:11:57 That you sweat through, dude. It's so annoying. It's so annoying. And it's just like, why can't we have something that's a better alternative to this that's more comfortable, machine washable? Like moisture wicking. Yeah, you can just take right out of the dryer and throw on.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I don't have to iron it. Like something you can fold and throw in your suitcase and then shake it out when you get to your final destination before you go to the wedding. You don't even need to steam it. Like what if we had that? I wish we did. I mean, I wasn't a big fan of dress shirts and stuff like that until i found mizzen in maine yes and that's why you got to go check out mizzen in maine the company was born when mizzen in maine's founder saw a sweat drenched dc staffer running into a meeting wrinkled stained
Starting point is 00:12:36 exhausted his shirt needed a refresh and that's what drove mizzen in maine to make the world's first performance fabric dress shirt fast forward years, and now they make incredibly comfortable flannels, sweaters, pants, jackets, in that same performance fabric they've been famous for for so long. So even if you aren't a dress shirt guy, they've got clothing you need to feel to believe. Go check it out.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I've got a sweatshirt from them that has really become my lounger on the crib sweatshirt. It's good. It's nice enough that I could wear it anywhere, and people would be like, dang, that's a nice sweatshirt. Can I touch that? They have a great hoodie as well yeah that's what i meant it was a hoodie okay yeah love my hoodie straight up thin tech material very comfortable very nice
Starting point is 00:13:13 stretchy i recently got some joggers from them too very comfortable very lightweight joggers that look fantastic we've been wearing mizzen and main for a long time they were they were friends of ours at a previous company and guess what you guys know i like to have a few drinks on the weekend right that's not for a day a few pints with the lads the other day oh yeah yeah well now when i'm rocking a mizzen and main no matter what i'm doing i know i'm looking my best i got a bunch of their stuff it's become my go-to dress shirt. I even bought, I bought two of their shirts with our discount code recently. That's how much I liked it.
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Starting point is 00:14:18 that's been all over the tl lately and i'll be honest i'm a little uh my decision's a little split on it. Of course. If you guys follow Schmerriman. Who's that? You guys familiar with this guy? No. He's our business development guy. He's the reason that you have to clean the bathroom all the time, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And he's just that dude. Hey, do you clean the bathroom every time you use it? What? I'm asking Dylan if he cleans the bathroom every time he uses it uh sometimes yeah every time i follow you up it's always quite clean i'm like a clean seat okay i'm not i just i was wondering i was like damn is it always like this you know i'm not pissing on that seat dog we're pretty good about it yeah i think we're pretty good about it yeah well i sit down famously oh you do you do sit down i do sit down i'm the i'm the i've become the official bathroom cleaner
Starting point is 00:15:11 of the office and the vacuumer and the vacuumer the cleaner that's hooked your boys out here just straight cleaning well i don't know what we're talking about at this point brett has officially changed his profile photo on uh actually i'm going to turn Randy up for this because I think we're going to need to talk a little bit. He's officially changed his profile photo to an AI-generated photo of himself. And I have to say, he absolutely bricked the first iteration of this. Randy had to go fix it for him yesterday because Brett did what the – I think the Brick Watch Company also is doing this currently on Instagram. But he left like these weird borders in the photo.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Not good. also is doing this currently on instagram but uh he left like these weird borders in the photo not good is that why when i walked in from lunch or my appointment yesterday on your screen was that photo yeah so he had it so that it's a circle but like you could see the edges of the square image because he didn't size it up enough and you know brett's not a graphic designer that's not his forte he's so good at so many things, but graphic design is not his passion. Did he brick the profile pic? If Facebook dads can get the perfectly in there with their car selfie and not have borders, the French should be able to do that. Why do old conservatives,
Starting point is 00:16:20 why did they do the selfie? Because they love their truck, dude. The car selfie with sunglasses on. Yeah. yeah well now ever since brett did this now i've seen it everywhere everyone's posting their ai generated portraits hey uh i think we may have uh somebody hopping oh no i haven't seen many people oh no i've seen pete and brett do this that's it oh i'm seeing everybody doing it we got kelly Keegs on it this morning. I mean, everybody. Everyone's doing this.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Brett, you know why you're here? You know what? To be honest, when I first saw them, I thought to myself, this is kind of cool. But then once I found out that people were spending $12 on these things, I immediately called the cool police and did this. What'd they say? They said it's not cool anymore because you paid for it. Oh, yeah paid it's cool for 12 bucks all right do you feel good that you're contributing to ai's uh kind of just
Starting point is 00:17:11 growing knowledge uh yeah i do but aren't they stealing like um aren't they using actual artwork from actual artists who generate these i'm glad you brought this up i wanted to talk about the ethics of the lens app oh i did you like ethics brad business ethics yeah i mean this is cooler than anything like an artist has ever done i mean i paid twelve dollars for adverse pain like a hundred dollars have you ever gone to six flags fiesta texas not a big amusement park fan okay um he doesn't like being amused at parks you ever been at the fair or a carnival or just been walking down South Congress and an artist was maybe drawing characters?
Starting point is 00:17:50 You think this is going to put caricaturists out of work? I think it could. It could damn well. I think most artists aren't fairly compensated for their work or their time. And I think we're just doing them a disservice here by using their work in order to create works that have nothing to do with their body of work. I said the word work a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I was looking up some news for the Lenza app. And most of it is about the ethics of the AI art and their stealing or if it's derivative of other artists' original works. And then this one dropped from Wired. You guys familiar with this? Magic avatar app Lenza generated nudes from my childhood photos. Nudes? Cool. From childhood photos.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Cool. Yeah. Oh, Brett, defend it. Defend it, Brett. Defend it. I don't know what you want me to say there it's probably shouldn't be doing that i guess that's my official statement definitely should not be generating nudes via lensa thank you thank you for for being on record for that brat we do appreciate man remember the nudifier app that
Starting point is 00:18:58 thing is so fun i mean i guess all i did was blur things it was fun yeah like didn't do that much can you just do that in photoshop yeah, I mean, you can do it anywhere. You think I know how to use Photoshop, David? No. Exactly. Nudifier, great app. Why? Nudifier.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Did you pay for that? No. Are you kidding me? You probably did. You probably paid $2.99. My favorite thing about Brett taking the plunge, and we talked about this at the office yesterday, is that Brett is very like...
Starting point is 00:19:26 Brett, you're very crypto, anti-crypto. Correct. A crypto skeptic. That's fair. Utility is not. Now for the part that will make your mind kind of scramble. You are an NFT skeptic, however... Did you offload that NFT? No, I kept it.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You are diamond-handling a Serge Ibaka NFT. Do you want a free 10-second ad read right now to offer to sell your NFT to any listeners out there? I would feel horrendous about selling it to anybody because it's not worth anything. Serge Ibaka dunk? Serge Ibaka dunk from November of 2019. Just making sure. It's a dunk, dude. It's not a layup.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I didn't know if it was a block or something. That would be... It is a dope dunk. It is a cool slam dunk. You probably see it every night around the league. But this one is different. Yeah. Digitally entom different yeah digitally this was a non-fungible token someone off someone made an offer to him for a 95 loss and he was actually considering it because i'm well i mean i'm gonna make zero on it so i was like why not take the 50 but i you never know man you take the 50 dude you know i
Starting point is 00:20:21 don't take the 50 out of principle i'm gonna diamond hands dude that's to zero dude out of principle i'm going to go to zero i want it i want it to go to zero are you hodling no you can only hodl bitcoin right i don't know i think you can hodl uh trash docs or i'll hold your girl if you're not careful what are the shit stocks called shit coins stocks shit stongs i just i just don't think that ai generated stuff is very cool like a computer made this makes you look it's like whoa fuck i'm on a movie poster it's cool yeah but it gets ruined for me by the fact that it's just like a machine it makes everyone a 10 it does make you very attractive that's why people are into it right now see my fear is that if i do it it's gonna make me look like a four no that's just not that i have all the ai generated photos
Starting point is 00:21:04 where i look like shit i wish i would have they'll make me look like a four. No. That's just not true. Then I have all these AI-generated photos where I look like shit. I wish I would have just... What kind of beard do you have? They'll make you look mega hot. I wish Brett would have entered his info and downloaded the app, put the pictures in, and just kicked back blurry Brett from the live stream. Yeah, that would have been good.
Starting point is 00:21:16 No, I'd pay 12 bucks for that. You don't need... You have the photo. Just pixelated Brett. Yeah, but I get more enjoyment out of it. Does this end with all of us being against it besides brett and then we end up doing this and yeah once you do it you'll think it's cool i'm a i i'm like many many people i'm i'm curious i wonder if they can take me a solid five and make me into a heart i think you're hotter than
Starting point is 00:21:39 a five day they definitely can you just need to put a bunch of pictures in and it spits out these unbelievable like 100 unbelievable images of you. What would it do if I went pre-stash, post-stash? That's a good question. I'm not sure how the AI has been trained. It might bring down the entire app. Well, you should do it. I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I'm not paying for it myself. There's no way I'm paying $12 to get a bunch of... To rob artists of their work and job, their careers. Well, there's paying robots. As someone who makes a living trying to do creative stuff, I can't do it. Hey, let's do a company trip to Six Flags, San Antonio.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I'm out. Let's all get caricatures. I like fun. We can all get caricatures. I don't do roller coasters, David. And then we can all get them framed. Why, are you scared? Anywhere I have to walk around in 95 degree heat on asphalt and stand in lines and be around that many people, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I used to be scared of roller coasters. When you put it that way, it does sound terrible. Yeah. Parking. Don't do them. And then I turned eight. I'm so scared. What if you pay for the fast pass or whatever?
Starting point is 00:22:39 Like the front of the line thing. It's like TSA in a lot of airports. You still stand in line for like 30 minutes. Like Randy and I at the House of Torment. You at the uh house of torment you paid for the fast paid for the fast we paid for the double fast pass we yeah that's a flex yeah just the first time we've had five people on a mic in this studio i think yeah maybe jesus yeah the roller coasters it's the feeling that i'm dying that i don't like you're not though you're just on a roller coaster but i feel like i could die are you scared of death i'm scared of
Starting point is 00:23:10 how i'm gonna it comes for us all not necessarily death but how i'm going to die sure have you ever seen uh final destination no have you seen final destination 2 yes no no that was one of the first movies i ever saw in 3d it did make me question roller coasters and things of that nature we're just driving on the highway yeah is that the one where the large fall off the correct yeah yeah yeah a lot of logging trucks in upstate new york you gotta be careful i think i would have could have handled it better if it was in two dimensions but when i hit that third dimension whoa i you guys in on avatar you guys seen avatar 2 and 3d or what i have a theory oh here we go i think avatar the production company buys up tickets in foreign markets to make it
Starting point is 00:23:54 to inflate the hype artificially why why is this a theory because there's no way this movie has that much hype already everybody's like oh yeah avatars i went to the first one absolutely packed theater i absolutely loved Why is this a theory? Because there's no way this movie has that much hype already. Everybody's like, oh, yeah, Avatar. I went to the first one. People liked the first one. It's an absolutely packed theater. I absolutely loved the movie. And I'm absolutely going to go see the second one in theaters for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh, OK. Well, have fun. I don't know why I became an Avatar person, but I really do enjoy it. I will watch it on shrooms from my couch. See, that's a bad move. I think we just got to do shrooms. Let's just go do shrooms in public. What's it called? I actually would do that. It's like three hours long. I think we just got to do shrooms. Let's just go do shrooms in public. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:24:26 I actually would do that. It's like three hours long. I'll go with you, Doug. Dave is on a key break watch at least once. You know what? I'm sitting right here. Can I make one request if we all go together? Brett can't be the one holding the tickets this time.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Oh, my God. What a brick situation. What even happened? Because we thought we had reserved seats for top gun and then we realized after that the seats weren't reserved and that we needed to get there early in order to get the best possible watch it from the wing we had better seats than brett and randy yeah randy and i were down they had to go to the concession stands yeah well i we didn't but i was like well i'll go with randy that's nice anyway shouts to ai the chat tools is cool
Starting point is 00:25:07 have you guys used that one yet too no dude i'm anti this like now i used a year ago i used to be of the thinking that like ai is never coming for our jobs or anything like that oh we're created oh we're good no now i'm like fuck ai wait what does dan say about podcasting we'll be out of a job in five years ai podcast podcasting? As I said yesterday to somebody in the office, if there's AI podcasting in five years, I will be more than happy to exit the podcasting community and say, I'm just going to go do something else. What if that means that all we have to do is just, we own the underlying IP to our voices, obviously, and our branding, and it just gets generated and spits
Starting point is 00:25:45 out episode we're just up we just sit back with our heels up and it does it for us we're just up here okay and then what happens when the ai version of your podcast gets you canceled because you start saying some bullshit and then you're sitting on your couch and suddenly you get like a million tweets coming in it's like oh shit the bots really let me down they have like a spice meter you can you can do it's like no i want to I want to be real spicy in this episode. And suddenly you're like, it's like red and green and Dylan can't tell which is which. It uploads your like tweeting history
Starting point is 00:26:12 to see what kind of shit you're into. You're going in trying to log into your Twitter account and you're suspended because Elon like got mad at you because your podcast blew up. Like, no, I'm not fucking around with that. I don't want to license my existence to a podcasting company. They're taking our germs, man.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Hey, do you want to go ahead and give any words for, I don't know, maybe one of our listeners, multiple listeners, maybe some former interns who have art businesses on the side? Huh. Or your co-workers that have maybe designers. Maybe, I don't know, Crim Shop.
Starting point is 00:26:40 How do you feel about Crim? Here's the thing, though. I'm supporting all art. I'm supporting AI art. I don't know if you are, dog. I'm supporting Randy's art. People art. Ricky's art.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And Crip shop's art. You can't say people art. I will support all art. Art? Art? Art? I will support all art. I will also pay $12 for 100 cool pictures of me.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I watched Brett struggle for six minutes trying to make a Predator handshake meme the other day to the point that he just rage quit. And the fact that you can pay $12 for this is really upsetting. A Predator meme? The Predator handshake meme. You were trying to do that, and then you just rage quit. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:27:19 That one. And you can just pay $12 to make all these cool-ass portraits? It's bullshit. It's a dope shot. I did. hundred dollars for one i paid twelve dollars i got a hundred of them so damn are you hodling i don't think you can make money off of these why don't you sell why don't you sell these as nfts no the problem is there's nowhere to put them like i'm not i'm not gonna do like a an instagram like slide of them you're gonna frame one and put it up in your in your place uh no no i'll just mostly use them as
Starting point is 00:27:48 profile pics can i make one request sure can you just make sure that you have your linkedin profile photo not be an ai generated i won't do that that's that makes us look like that's too crypto bro yeah that's so crypto bro yeah no's so crypto. Twitter is where it stops. Probably not Instagram. I don't like what I'm about to say, but I feel like now I'm going to end up trying to like – I was kind of – I had a point of pride in knowing that a photo that I took of Brad at a previous Christmas party was his profile photo for like almost two years. And it's kind of killing me. That was a great artistic shot. So now I'm going to i'm gonna have to uh here's the sort of volume shooting photos on saturday for the christmas party so you have an immediate opportunity to to regain i know but now you're gonna be you're gonna be you're gonna be begging
Starting point is 00:28:34 for you're gonna be thirsty for a new photo no i'm not that's the whole thing about candids is that i'm gonna leave my phone at home if you ever took one of me i would use it do you have anything laid out yet no you i have taken numerous photos of you. You just don't take pictures? No. You just refuse to let us post them. I was going to do – we were going to do a thing where we had two conversations in parallel. I think that's bad podcasting. But yes, I have my fit laid out for Saturday.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Very cool. Talk to us about it. No, you don't have to. No. Is it this weekend in fun? What? It's supposed to be like 95 degrees on Saturday? It's not cold.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It's not cold. It's not hot. I'm still going to step out dude i was hoping to pit out at our christmas party this is one of the worst weather patterns we've ever been a part of it's disgusting i'm gonna put an absolute line in here if i wasn't already going up to northern michigan for christmas i would 100 be pivoting right now and going up there i can't do this christmas weather down here 80 degrees today this ain't it get out of here christmas i agree it's it's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:29:25 We were blessed in November to have two weeks of 50 degree temperatures, though. But we need that back. What are you wearing up top, man? Fucking wait and see about it, dude. I don't know. I was checking the forecast the other day, and I did see that it was going to be a little breezy. A little drafty on... This is bad. What you've done here saturday around the christmas party dude sounds great
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Starting point is 00:31:05 for details big announcement today time person of the year was announced so it's our boy zelinski how do you say his name zelinski i feel like i should know this at this point he's time person you said it correctly at least how it's said over here yeah i'm not great with uh ukrainian pronunciations at this point but he was named the time person of the year go ahead dylan you were railing on this earlier why is this bad i didn't say that david let's not let's not i will remind everyone that i was once uh don't worry no one thinks that you're anti-ukraine i was once published by time i was not their person of the year but they they did publish me, which is kind of a big deal.
Starting point is 00:31:46 So I'm in the neighborhood of person of the year. I kind of want to get published in a big... I want to get published one day in a big thing. It feels pretty good, man. I don't know if a magazine is what I want to do. Okay. You're too good for a magazine? No, I'm not too good for it.
Starting point is 00:31:59 But I think I'd rather do a big newspaper. Yeah, that's good stuff. Or you could do the ultimate flex and get like the New York Times magazine feature. That's a flex. You get that Sunday treatment? Are you kidding me? I don't have an issue with this year's time person of the year necessarily, but I do think that there are some people that might have gotten overlooked.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Usually they put out a whole list of people, and you get to see who they're actually like weighing when it comes to this there are no honorable mentions yeah i didn't see any of this year at least they not invite the other people to the ceremony hard to say you know there are other positions that they can nominate for heisman outside that's a really good take you should tweet that. I think I'm going to tweet it later. I'm sick of it, dog. Like, yeah, they're good quarterbacks, but maybe consider, I don't know, the defense or other positions on the field from the offense.
Starting point is 00:32:56 It doesn't always have to be a freaking quarterback. Wow. I'm over it. Hey, clip that. I'm over it. He's over it. Dude, you're a savage. Those are not the four best players in college football.
Starting point is 00:33:07 They're just not. They're not. They're good. The annual issue. It's 25. Features a person, group, idea, or an object that for better or for worse has done the most to influence the events of the year. the most to influence the events of the year so for better or for worse which is why we've had some very controversial figures as people of the year and yes why would they name this i am talking about putin lbj putin's on there davy putin is there. It's pretty much just like every other year,
Starting point is 00:33:45 it's whoever's in office in the United States. Didn't they call you LBJ back in the day? Mark Kuckerberg is on there too. Bitch. I was a little surprised it wasn't Elon, but I guess he got it last year. The one bad thing about Elon becoming so miserable is that he's making Zuck look better,
Starting point is 00:34:01 which I don't like. My affinity for Zuck, which is very low, has gone up a little bit since Elon's become miserable. All he has to do is not tweet, not post, and his stock goes up every day. Yeah, but the metaverse stock is not going up. Elon is way too thirsty for that personal validation. And I don't like that the richest man in the world
Starting point is 00:34:21 is too thirsty for that validation. He just won't shut off. He won't, dude. He likes the attention too much, which is not a good characteristic of someone who owns Twitter. Jack should have just kept it. Did I tell you how Brett bought some property in the metaverse? Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Bought like two and a half acre lot. What's he doing with it? I did the title work to it. I don't know, but it's not looking good. I don't even know if it's going to be there. Ignorant question. Is that an actual thing you can do in the metaverse? Is buy property? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I think you can. Get some, dude. Randy, do you secretly have some? Interest rates are going up soon on it. Imagine. If I found out one of my boys had invested in property in the metaverse, he wouldn't be my boy anymore. Well, time to break up with Brett.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I'd kick him out the group. I'd much rather you buy a Serge Ibaka NFT than buy property in the metaverse. I'm still holding out hope, man. I think we've come up with some alternative time people of the year. Oh, have you? I think we should have a with some alternative time people of the year. Oh, have you? I think we should have a discussion around some of these people and maybe hash out why they were nominated, why they weren't. Maybe should they have been time person of the year?
Starting point is 00:35:35 Well, what you got, man? I don't know. I feel like Dave and I got some similar ones on our list. This one's pretty simple. If you follow the news at all, you know who this person is. If you follow us on Twitter, you know who this person is. Their sphere of influence goes beyond what most people do. Of course, I'm talking about Michael, Bud Light's ultimate tailgater.
Starting point is 00:35:57 That is true. His work isn't recent, which I think might have hurt him a little bit. But I do think that if they would have put out a Time magazine with his face on the cover, I don't think anybody would have said no. Yeah, I mean, part of the test for something a classic is does it stand the test of time? True. And I can objectively say yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. No one's rowdier. No one tailgated harder than michael bud light's ultimate tailgater facts uh just a guy that just a whole tailgate scene my one critique is that bud light lime okay never had it not a molson course product that's for sure. Yeah, yeah. If it was a Molson Ultimate Tailgater, might have gotten the nod. Agree. Two nominees that I'd like to bring to the forefront,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I think 2022, we're kind of emerging from the smoke that was COVID. I think a lot of people are very concerned about their health. I think a lot of people are really trying to look for ways to be more healthy and to preserve their health. And that's why I think we'd be remiss to not talk about some of the pioneers in this space, raw meat experiment, liver king. And so- Oh, this guy one didn't think of that. Yeah, I just-
Starting point is 00:37:23 The guys that eat raw meat. It just seems like these people should be you know propped up instead of torn down and i think that uh you know especially our friend uh the liver king he's had a tough go at it recently i thought you're gonna go with elizabeth holmes which there it is you know going to jail has she ever been time person of the year no she's definitely been on the short list been time person of the year no she's definitely been on the short list she was she was there was a time she's definitely been on the short list if you if you bought that ticket five years ago you thought you were sitting pretty i mean i do
Starting point is 00:37:53 have a couple ladies do you want me to describe one lady who i think maybe should be in the conversation please i i'd like to see girl bosses is she a girl boss i do like to see girl bosses win maybe that uh finnish prime minister who was partying. Okay. I think we should normalize hot prime ministers partying. Even if you're not hot, we like you to party. I prefer my prime ministers to be hot. Yeah, I think everyone does.
Starting point is 00:38:15 We're not anti-ugly prime minister. Tony Blair was kind of big. Who's the hottest guy right now? Is Trudeau hot? Yeah. He is also Castro's son. He is Fidel Castro's son. More on that, I'm touching based,
Starting point is 00:38:31 a conspiracy podcast. Another girl boss who I enjoyed to see winning this year, Taylor Swift. I thought that what she did for stadium tours and things of that nature, I think it's a very interesting thing she uh she almost brought down big ticket i think ticketmaster should be in the conversation for person of the year they've had a big dialogue online lately it's true well for better or for
Starting point is 00:38:54 worse or for worse sometimes you have to destroy things in order to rebuild them it turned uh it turned a lot of people into uh anti-corporate activists you love to to see that. You just love to see it. I'm anti-establishment at this point. You know what? I've been listening to a lot of no effects. Me too. Me too. I also have our good friend Nick Adams.
Starting point is 00:39:16 You have him on there? Well, I did see that he was voted alpha male of the year on his Twitter feed. I don't know if that's... Can you have both? I don't know if that's an award that have both i don't know if that's an award that other people voted on or gave him i think that might be a self-proclaimed i have another guy on the list uh i have the guy who banned james corden from balthazar i think that
Starting point is 00:39:36 was a really good move dude that guy that guy got cucked and went back he did go back on i think that's why he did end up winning uh i have adam levine i think he asked him i think he said what everyone was hoping he would say this year need to see the booty i need to see the booty man um given the other extremely high profile scandals that have dropped since the adam levine one he's probably like yeah i kind of skated on this dude yeah i feel like levine's getting off real easy is he are they getting divorced or anything they stay together i i think his wife might have uh some thoughts on him getting off easy i think he might have some thoughts on his phone this guy's just a stallion no i'm saying
Starting point is 00:40:19 that she uh might be still pretty upset with him sorry maybe i don't know i thought maybe he was doing like the sting uh commerce sutra thing right i thought of someone else i like i like that we live in a world that i think co would actually help this where you know enterprising people can really start to excel. Small business owners can make a good living. And that's why I think that we need to really give a nice tip of the cap to our good friend, the Vegas bartender, who owns numerous Firehouse Subs. He did win Bit Madness, which is big.
Starting point is 00:40:56 That should have propelled him into the conversation at the very least. He won Bit Madness. That's huge. Might be going back there in February. He's a vibes guy. We'll see about it. You know, my list is plentiful. I've got a couple names i mentioned elizabeth holmes um i think i feel like uh sydney sydney sweeney needs to be uh why though i feel like she's just had a year for better or for worse she's had controversy yeah i've been everywhere yeah that birthday party yeah yeah but i think the real person of the year
Starting point is 00:41:27 is a hunter biden's laptop repair guy yeah what'd he do what does she i think it was he what'd he do he's the one who who repaired the laptop and said whoa what the fuck's going on here what the freak there's nothing sketchy about any of this. Just saying. Who you got? Yeah, Dylan. Throw out a nomination for person of the year. I don't have a list, as discussed before the podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I have only one person on my list that I haven't named yet. Ooh, who is it? It's someone that's near and dear to us. I don't think they were a part of the conversation. Is it Micah? At the time, headquarters. But honestly't think they were a part of the conversation at the time headquarters. But honestly, he was just a vibes guy. And, you know, I'm glad he was in my life for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:42:10 He kind of talks shit to me on Instagram these days, but overall, that's okay. Intern Avi. Oh. You know? Wow. Yeah. Did not see that one coming. He's not on my list, by the way.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah. He texted me. He broke the news that Takeoff had been murdered. Why did he go to you he texted me i don't know i we don't text frequently i i you know occasionally i'll respond to his post but he texted me and was like hey man just saw the news about takeoff i was like yeah like wow okay thanks obby can you read the only and first text that obby ever sent to me what dude what is the viagra triangle that's the only text he ever sent me you want to fill us in there it's a part of chicago where older men will hang out in hopes of meeting younger ladies
Starting point is 00:43:03 or they bring younger ladies there. Or they can find, I don't know, maybe some ladies of the night there. Randy's smirking. Randy got here telling us. I have never heard of this before. You've never heard of the Viagra Triangle? That was a face of confusion.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I've never heard of this before. Really? I thought you were giving me that face because you said I stink. He's more of a Cialis Circle guy. Dave, that's... Viagra Triangle. Admittedly, that's very good.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Thank you. Very good. It's fine. I'm more of a Hymns Hexagon. Shout out to the old sponsor. Wow. Randy just dunked on both of y'all. No one's shouting at old sponsors like that.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He just put y'all on a poster. This says, The district bounded by State Rush and Bellevue is nicknamed the Viagra Triangle because it's a popular place for well-heeled older gents to take their dates. Lined with upscale venues like Tavern on Rush
Starting point is 00:43:49 and Gibson's Steakhouse. Oh, yeah. I was at Gibson with Hunter. I overcooked his steak. He put his thumb in it. That happened. Is that where we went? No.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I don't remember the name of that place. We went to an Italian steakhouse. Italian steakhouse. It was good. It wasn't great. It was fine. It was fine it was fun we had fun good vibes dave i think i've come to the decision i don't really i don't think i like florentine steak that much um if i'm in an italian restaurant and steak is an option i typically won't order it if you've had it what the florentine steak it's i only get Florentine steak from Chicago. I wanted to like it when we got it in Florence.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I told everyone, oh, this is so good. And the more I look back on it, the more I'm like, I don't think it was that good. So obviously I know what Florentine steak is, but some people at home might not. So why don't you go ahead and tell them what it is. To be honest, I'm not totally sure. I think it's dry aged for an extended period of time.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's served extremely rare, cut. I don't know the actual things, though, but everyone told me to go try it. I'm out on rare still. It comes from an ancient breed of Tuscan cattle called the Chianita. Dylan, the reason you're not familiar with it is because you probably know it as the Bisteca alla Fiorentina. Oh, okay. That's all I had to say. Now I know. So now you're yeah i don't know okay you don't have anybody you want to just nail nobody really
Starting point is 00:45:16 just moved your little needle your little needle show us your little needle will smith oh what about ch Chris Rock eating that eating he did eat that Dave it was an uncomfortable moment extremely I don't like what I saw I'm fine with it
Starting point is 00:45:35 no I mean I wish it would have been more I think it's a good I think it's a good piece of of entertainment lore that we can always look back on
Starting point is 00:45:43 and say man that was a wild time I don't know why I have this on here. I have Julia Fox because of the Unca Joms interview. She should be in the conversation. She's on fire later. She's on fire later. She got in on, okay, she got in. She's having a moment.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Post Kim, Kanye before all the stuff from the last month. The anti-Semitism. If it's for better or for worse, you might as well throw Kanyeye in here that's a that's fair dylan that dude or for worse for worse that dude stinks baby yeah what's his problem i don't know man shout out to zalinski chris paul really kind of no one's really talking about that Chris Paul thing anymore. Is he injured or did he just not play? He's injured. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Is he still injured or is he just not playing? He didn't play a couple nights ago in Dallas. He's been pretty quiet on Twitter, has he not? Hey, man, sorry about my Pistons taking your Mavs, though. Yeah, he hadn't said anything on Twitter. I'm going to lose an inexplicable game on you. Inexplicable? It's a weird team.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Why do you got to do me like that? The Pistons are a franchise on the incline, said anything that's a loser lose a inexplicable game on you inexplicable come on man i'm not gonna do me like that the pistons are their franchise uh on the incline but not i've been enjoying going to live sporting events lately okay one of the reasons is that i recently acquired something that is uh tailored to my one of my favorite teams you guys hear this austin fc team yeah i have this belt that i acquired through our company. And every time I go to a game now, I get excited that I can go put that belt on. I even wear it when I'm not going to the game because it's such a good-looking belt. Of course, I'm talking about Zilker belts, my friends.
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Starting point is 00:48:58 Can anyone do an impression of the White Lotus theme song for me? Oh, gosh. Dave, maybe. of the white lotus theme song for me oh gosh dave maybe that was better that's good i'll be honest i skip intro uh it goes really dummy but i skip intro as well i just don't have i don't want to be up too late i can save 45 seconds i'm gonna do it i'm still not sure why streaming apps don't have an always skip intro setting, but I'm just a simple podcaster. Yeah. It's White Lotus Wednesday, ladies and gentlemen. Head Ultimate episode aired on Sunday night. I did what I'd never do,
Starting point is 00:49:37 and I watched it on Sunday night, hoping that everyone would have watched it. But Dylan famously fell asleep on the couch at 8 p.m on sunday have you caught up dylan oh yeah yes i have not my favorite episode of the year knowing that going in knowing that it was a penultimate episode i had very high expectations as everyone knows that penultimate episodes turn out to be some of the most exciting and it wasn't my favorite but i do think we're set up for success in this finale but that's kind of in line with the way white lotus goes like you know something happens near the end but in in between all that not a whole lot it's just a lot of setting up yeah but my issue is that the last three episodes were way more engaging than this last it's very vibey you're right this has been a more action
Starting point is 00:50:21 packed season than last were you happy for valentina that she finally received the love of a woman for the first time? Yes. Yeah, she deserved that. She needed it. And on her birthday, no less. Good for her. She's sneaky climbing my power rankings in characters. Oh, she's great.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Just a great actress. She's great. Great, well-casted. Anyone have any takes on this episode that they just need to get off their chest right now? I'm worried. I'm worried about some characters a few episodes i i predicted that the um and i'm going to use this in quotes because that's what they say in the show dave said it last time the gays um they're trying to they're trying to uh take advantage of is it tanya what's her nameos or who who's oh yeah yeah yeah oh the gay sorry sorry what's her name tanya tanya thank you um they're trying to fleece her out of some money i think or
Starting point is 00:51:14 yeah they're trying to take advantage of her in some way greg's obviously involved in this right well if you um put everything together, he obviously knows the main guy. Because you're aware that in the photo that she picked up and looked at, that was... Quentin. Yeah, he was the young cowboy. Yes, he was the young cowboy that Quentin said that he was in love with, the only person he's loved, the person he would still do anything for today. Greg has already talked about his prenup in this season he's mentioned at dinner with her greg disappears and suddenly these guys come in and they start
Starting point is 00:51:50 whining and dining her i didn't thought of that angle he's a hundred percent trying to kill her and get her money hundred percent oh i didn't thought of this angle at all interesting it's i've been stewing on this Greg character. I've never trusted Greg. Wait, who was in the picture with that guy? The cowboy picture? It was Greg and Quentin. It was Greg?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yes. Yeah, it's young Greg. 100%. Not old Greg. I did not pick up on that at all. 100%. And so, yeah, I think he's putting these guys up to it. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:52:22 How did I miss that? It's so easy to miss stuff in this show, Dylan. Okay. It wasn't completely obvious, at least to my eye. I had to go back and look. But some people were all over it. This theory has been out there. Our friends at the Oysters, Clams, and Cockles podcast,
Starting point is 00:52:42 they threw this around a little bit. But I am worried for the DeGrasso family. Why? Bert, Dominic, Albie. Why are you worried about them? I'm looking at that picture now. To be honest, Dave, I'm the least worried about them. I'm excited to hear what you said. Because Lucia's...
Starting point is 00:52:59 She owes some people some money. And I think she might be taking young albie and potentially uh dominic for a little ride here when she comes back i don't know if i trust her i feel like she's doing what she has to do to survive are you worried about cameron in this too since he's been uh he's he still owes her thirteen hundred dollars um thirteen hundred bucks $1,300. Is that too much? Too little? She's for sex. I've never paid for sex.
Starting point is 00:53:30 She's something. I've never paid for it. You haven't? No. Good for you. I haven't either. You can make the case I have. I'm getting fleeced. Pay for it every day.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I'm getting fleeced every day. Hey, bro. I still think that Albie somehow leaves with her. I'm not worried about Cameron because... He's alpha? Well, the opening scene of the season was Daphne down on the beach talking to those other girls. I feel like she wouldn't be doing that if her husband, even if she did hate him or whatever. I don't know how much weight we can put on this, but I did see on TikTok, which TikTok...
Starting point is 00:54:03 If you're looking for theories about this, TikTok is the place place to go i'll i'll be completely honest i don't like looking at theories on tiktok they get served to me because they know my activity uh but they're they they replay the first scene where daphne finds the dead person in the water while she's taking her final swim on vacation and the leg appears to be a shaved leg that of a lady okay again i don't know if that's i don't know how much you can put in there but if if there is a lady dying i think it would have to be don't say lucia don't do it mia lucia mia or tanya the death in season one arm Armand, was not – it was sad, but it wasn't like – like he was a good character, but he wasn't like a –
Starting point is 00:54:52 it was beautiful to see someone complete the flight directly to the sun. He was spiraling big time. A hundred percent. Like you knew it wasn't going to end well for him. Circle in the drain, a hundred percent. I don't really know who fits that this time around i i and it doesn't have to follow that that formula but it is with all these theories and stuff i still think that like someone random could just die like it
Starting point is 00:55:15 could it might not be someone that we actually care about we could lose jack tanya's low-key kind of spiraling she's on a coke she did ton of coke. I was getting worried about all that coke. I hope they tested those drugs. But she complimented the pupils. It was good. It was a good line. That guy was a hot dude, by the way. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I was really happy to see the penis. Real Casanova type. Huh? He's fine. Shut up. He's fine. Shut up. Really bad facial hair.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Coming from a bad facial hair guy, I can say that. I think – Is Portia going to die? Because – okay. Oh, here's another thing. And I did learn this on TikTok, unfortunately. But they're – like Greg being so upset that Portia was included in the beginning when she brought her personal assistant. Why would you bring your personal assistant?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Because he was going to whisk her away and kill her. Now they have an extra witness that the British dude might have to go murder Portia. Portia's going to tell him like, hey, you drunkenly confessed a lot of shit to me last night. Wait, you know more than one person dies? I don't care. In the opening scene of the whole season,
Starting point is 00:56:18 they said guests are dying or have died. So it's more than just one, more than just a person found in the ocean. I think Portia might die. I think she might be my number one victim. I'm really mad at myself for not catching Greg in that picture.
Starting point is 00:56:35 It's a miss from you. It is. Huge. It's pretty obvious. Yeah. Look, I beefed it. I can own that. Ethan is absolutely spiraling to a level that we've only seen really Armand spiral toward. You know, that's a good point. He's definitely in his own head.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I'm not going to justify his gaslighting of Harper, but there really isn't a lot of smoke, or there isn't fire here when there is smoke. He didn't actually do anything besides Molly. Well, that we know of. Did Cameron? That's still going to be a problem. Did Cameron and Harper hook up in the room?
Starting point is 00:57:20 I don't think they did. Why was the connecting door opened? I mean, it could have been like they just didn't shut it from earlier. You know what I mean? I think she might be fucking with him. She's getting his dome a little bit. She's pissed off. She thinks he cheated on her.
Starting point is 00:57:39 For good reason. There's a condom on the couch of where they're staying for a week. But there is a part of me that thinks that she might just be like fucking with him. But who knows? I mean, I hope she doesn't cheat on the guy because I'd rather just know that Harper was a nice character who wouldn't do something like that. He didn't make out with Mia. He didn't sleep with her, but he made out. She kissed him.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It wasn't a make out. It was a kiss. It was a kiss. He stopped it. He knew. He stopped it. He stopped it not in an appropriate amount of time. He should actually be applauded. The guy was a kiss. It was a kiss. He stopped it. He knew. He stopped it. He stopped it not in an appropriate amount of time. He should actually be applauded.
Starting point is 00:58:07 The guy was on Molly. Some cute little Italian broad shoved her tongue down his throat. He said, no, no, no, no. Meanwhile, his buddy's over there just having at it on his couch. If Lucia goes in for that kiss with Ethan, is he stopping her? I hadn't thought of that. That's a different set of circumstances. The dynamic suddenly changes a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:31 It does. I'm a Mia fan through and through. Voice of an angel. I saw some hate on Twitter about people saying she needs to stop singing and stuff. Her voice is fine. Dude, she's great. She's a great character. I really enjoy Mia.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I don't think she has a good voice, not a great voice. I don't think she's a a good voice not a great voice i don't think she's gonna win any awards i still think that albie leaves with lucia in some way i think they get married or something i think he saves her there's one episode a lot's gotta happen i know i still don't understand how that how cindy sweetie's little brother got to stay in hawaii and become a rower or some shit that was weird season one just call back sure yeah dude albie they they they nailed albie's like wardrobe when they went to go wherever they went last time and he's rocking the he's just got the cargos crew socks tennis shoes t-shirt just a generic dude loves it dork albie's a dork does she like him or is she using him i think she likes him man i think it's like she likes him a little bit doesn't treat her like a
Starting point is 00:59:32 her pimp wants her pimp wants his money she doesn't want to do it but she is going to try to convince maybe she's going to try to convince albie to rob his parents rob dominic i don't know i don't know what kind of... Dominic's a big dog, right? He's some kind of Hollywood, LA type. I feel like they've got money. He's got money. Dominic is?
Starting point is 00:59:55 I haven't really paid attention to what he does. I have wondered. Yeah, I think he's entertainment in some capacity. If you're on a vacation with your college roommate and his wife, you don't want to be in the connecting rooms, right? No. I need a one-room buffer. We recently were, at the wedding that we went to in LA,
Starting point is 01:00:14 we had connecting rooms with somebody that we were hanging out with. It wasn't bad or anything, but it was kind of like, I don't really know if I want them right next to me. Do you think connecting rooms are cool? Most of the times, I don't do them anymore. If I had a family, I'd feel good about it. But I don't want to if I want them right next to me. I do think connecting rooms are cool. Most hotels don't do them anymore. If I had a family, I'd feel good about it. But I don't want to be connected to my friends. Open it up, just turn it into a sweet situation.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah, what if I wake up in the middle of the night having to pee, and then I hear some... Yeah. Okay. Somebody just working it. Somebody clapping at the television because they love that show. Somebody just absolutely pulverizing it. Yeah, they're like, man, what a performance.
Starting point is 01:00:45 I used the term clapping cheeks with Brittany the other day just jokingly. She thought it was really disgusting for saying that. She had never heard it, I don't think. Like, I didn't make it up. Get out my shit. Yeah, but you've kind of taken ownership of it. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:00:57 You're the clap cheeks guy. I don't think that's true. You're the clap cheeks guy. I'm a cheeky McClapperson over here. Can I make one request as we exit White Lotus Wednesday? Dominic is a producer in Hollywood, just for the record. Super producer. Can we all commit to watching the finale on Sunday
Starting point is 01:01:16 so we can have White Lotus Wednesday on a Monday this week? I think if there's one week we got to do it on a Monday, it's the finale. Yeah, I can do that for you. All right, let's do that. I've been the bigger issue. Ooh, hang on. Why? Let's see what Sunday Night Football. for you all right let's do that i'm i've been the bigger issue oh hang on why see what sunday night football oh man sure it's probably gonna be a banger let me check it's probably like pittsburgh versus cleveland it's probably
Starting point is 01:01:32 probably russ again who cares who cares boner what is it david owner well that's a great question oh it is It is. It's Chiefs Broncos. It is Russ again. God damn it. What? No one cares. Stop with this guy. No one cares.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Can I flex this? I mean, God. Oh, shit! That's so bad. Did we just go to a White Lotus resort, or are we at Wilmots? Oh, I am kidding. It's this weekend and fun, my friends. Presented by our
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Starting point is 01:04:17 PonchoOutdoors.com. Promo code FAHITAS for $10 off your order. Dylan, what are you getting into this weekend? Thanks for asking, Will. Friday, pretty laid back night. We got the kids. We're just going to probably just chill and not do a whole lot. I'll be saving up my energy for Saturday.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Big, big day Saturday for the WASH Media family. Yeah, we have our Christmas dinner, our annual Christmas dinner on Saturday. Holiday. Sorry, our holiday party on Saturday, 6 o'clock i'm really excited for this we have a private room rented out rented out i didn't know vincent steakhouse had private rooms that's not where we're going uh this is upstairs at a certain establishment downtown and i'm really excited about it it's going to be very good it's a it's a fun vibey place with excellent food i think you guys are going to like it and And reservation is for 12 folks.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Have you been here, Dave? Have you been to this restaurant? No, I have not. It's been talked up quite a bit. What's exciting for you and I is that if this restaurant bricks, we get to make fun of Dylan and Brett for it. That's fine. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I don't care at all. And Callie, for that matter. Oh, yeah. Give us all shit. See if I care. Oh, I'm so excited. Oh! You won't believe what I'm going to order to drink.
Starting point is 01:05:29 You won't believe it. It's going to rock your little shit. It's probably going to be a mezcal margarita. It's not. It probably is. It's not the kind of place you want to get a mezcal margarita. You're probably going to get, I don't know, you're going to get like a Japanese whiskey old-fashioned that's burned.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Sunday, we have the kids again. No plans for Sunday yet. It's kids again. No plans for Sunday yet. No plans for Sunday yet. It's the day of rest. I'm going to be probably nursing a hangover for a little bit. So hopefully the kids don't want to do anything too active. Yeah, I'm dreading Sunday. Hear about these kids?
Starting point is 01:06:01 They're dreading it. Having a child has ruined two things in my life hangovers hangovers and uh flying okay both of which have been made much worse everything else in life is much better because of kids but hangovers and flying have been just ramped up in terms of their terribleness yeah i'm in a lot of trouble on sunday because i've got soccer cubs at 10 o'clock you're gonna going to be fine, dude. Getting some footy in the morning cures everything over. I end up doing more running than roads.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I know one day I'm going to be showing them how to tick-tock the ball and I'm going to roll an ankle or worse. What's his username? Friday night, though. Got a little Bucks Mavs action. Got that to Bucks-Mavs action.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Got that to look forward to. Probably stay in, watch it at home. And Saturday, my weekend tracks with their weekend. Nothing special. Maybe with the addition of soccer cubs, which is a soccer practice for very young kids. I need to bring Fritz, dude. I need to get in on this.
Starting point is 01:07:05 You should. Fritz will kick the ball, right? He's just recently started this last weekend. Is he more of a pick up the ball kind of kid? Because Rhodes has been skewing that way. Yeah. He's on his goalie grind. It is fun, though.
Starting point is 01:07:21 They have a lot of fun. They get rid of a lot of energy. I don't know. I kind of want to bring Fritzitz one day is this like a show up and do it or do you have to like sign up is there like a is class full it's definitely not full but like it's gone from like 12 people or 12 families to now it's like six people just no show drop it like flies paid for this. You paid for this. Yeah, I don't have... I mean, I'm actually going out Thursday night for dinner. Got a little couple. Going out with another couple.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Don't know where we're going yet, but we have one of the douchier restaurants. We have a reservation at one of the douchier restaurants in town. Let's hear it. Any guesses? Douchey restaurant. Ooh. Nothing's jumping out at me Saltgrass Steakhouse
Starting point is 01:08:07 no Red Ash no ATX Cocina oh that's very douchey oh that's fine yeah I like that spot
Starting point is 01:08:15 another one we have another reservation at Pecan Street Cafe or whatever I've heard it's mega overrated ATX Cocina is it's a fun spot
Starting point is 01:08:22 I just I'm tired of supporting McGuire Morbidon restaurants at this point. Well, then you're in the wrong city. I am. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So yeah, doing a nice little thing that day. Friday, you know, Friday is just going to be a chill day. You know, we are taking someone out for dinner, someone near and dear to us. We have a part-time nanny who takes care of Fritz a lot. And we're taking her out to dinner for Christmas.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Going to have a nice little time with her. It's very thoughtful of you. Are you going to be fun? Are you going to be sawgrass? What? No. We're going to do some Tex-Mex. Okay. Pretty excited about that. It's been a minute since I've had some fajitas. Has it really? It has. Okay. It really has, unfortunately. Wow. Dave's just looking at AI-generated photos of Greg Norman right now.
Starting point is 01:09:01 That's a strong tweet. Can I have one guess at who posted that? not what i want to see when i open just give me one single guess dude does greg just does greg norman look like old brett yeah brett's gonna for he's gonna transform into greg norman shark you got some footy this weekend boys friday we got footy games who's brazil got sat Saturday. I think Brazil has... I don't know. Putting you on the spot here. I had so much fun watching them the other day.
Starting point is 01:09:30 It was electric. Yeah, we're getting down to the nitty gritty of this. I'm actually pretty pumped up. Let's see who they play, Dave. Let's see. Sorry, it's going to take me a sec. Yeah, Brazil plays Croatia. That's a big dick matchup.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Fucking huge. And then on Friday, we also have Netherlands versus Argentina. I am going to take back my heritage from the Netherlands after they beat us. And I'm going to use that in hopes that they will beat Argentina. Did you see there's a guy on there named Dumfries? Dumfries. Dumfries. Dude, Denzel. Denzel Dumfries. hopes that they will be argentina did you see there's a guy on there named dumb fries dumb freeze dumb dude denzel denzel dumb freeze that's a sick name yeah dude he went off to assist in a goal against the united states i think we're related uh no different last name altogether oh yeah we also don't look very similar either no yeah maybe we're not related but i mean
Starting point is 01:10:23 it is kind of interesting that his last name has freeze in it also he's not a narp you guys know that freeze linds a part of the netherlands fuck you just kidding fuck you i'm just the fact that we have a video coming out the fact that i even had to confront a narp thing is kind of insulting we're all kind of narps honestly i do i will block anyone that uses the word narp towards me on uh twitter so and there are people that have done that thinking i won't block them. And guess what? They caught the block? Yeah, they caught the block. Hashtag blocked. Or I'll put you in mute time. That's even worse. Mute a player.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yeah, mute. You're just talking into the abyss. It's like purgatory, man. Blocked is like you want them to notice and react. Muting is just like, eh. Muting, I think, is more insulting than getting blocked agree with that 100 yeah yeah that's it that's all she wrote boys sunday night i will be skipping watching
Starting point is 01:11:14 russell wilson on television i'll be watching white lotus live me too i don't even watch russ yeah i've got a pretty good idea how that game might go so have you guys watched any christmas movies this year so far? Dude, yeah. Love Actually is on the docket. It's going to happen at some point soon. Have you seen it before? Of course.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Okay, just making sure. I watched it every year. Just making sure. Love that movie. Yeah, every night I get home, there is a Home Alone on in my house. Parks is very into Home Alone at the moment, so I'm going to watch that. It is the GOAT, so that makes sense. Love Actually. There's a Lindsay Lohan movie
Starting point is 01:11:48 on Netflix. It looks very bad and I'm really excited to watch that. Don't mess with the Lohan. I love really bad corny movies featuring Lindsay Lohan. So can't wait. Is it new? Yeah. It's called Falling for Christmas, I want to say.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Maybe? Falling for Christmas? Yeah. Okay. called Falling for Christmas, I want to say. Maybe? Falling for Christmas? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I need to start. I've watched Home Alone twice. She falls and hits her head and forgets who she is, and it's like this.
Starting point is 01:12:14 She ends up with Adam Sandler. She has CTE. No. In Hawaii. It might be so bad that it's good. He's also a diamond salesman, and he's in over his head. That's exactly what happens, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Let it come. Hey, KJ. KJ. he's also a diamond salesman and he's in over his head that's that's exactly what happened yeah yeah hey kj good jay uncle john's got a lot of run today i got a little bit you said it once yeah i love julia she's fine she's she's the most entertaining Arguably the person of the year. She is the person of the year. Bye. Bye.

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