Circling Back - 'Bachelorette' Announcement & Breaking Down The Guys

Episode Date: May 7, 2019

Ahead of the new season of 'The Bachelorette' starring Bama Hannah, we make an announcement regarding our coverage of the season. We also break down the guys from her season and discuss the 15th Anniversary Special. Sign up for our 'Bachelorette' tier for our weekly 'Bachelorette' episodes on Patreon (in addition to our weekly listener voicemail episodes): www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast Follow along with today's episode by using ABC's photos of the guys: https://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/news/updates/the-bachelorette-2019-hannah-b-meet-some-of-the-guys --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/circling-back/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, we're back circling back podcast might be a little confused. It's Tuesday. We don't normally put out an episode on Tuesday. We'll explain in a sec. My name's Will DeFreeze. To my right, Dave Ruff. Hose down the driveway. The Take Boys are pulling up. Skrt, skrt. Why would you hose down the driveway for that? It's a thing they do on the show. Oh. Yeah, the show we're about to do a pod on.

Yeah, we haven't gotten to that part yet. That's why I was trying to... Never mind. Hi, I'm Dylan. Happy to be here. That's why I was trying to... Never mind. Hi, I'm Dylan. Happy to be here. That's how you're going to intro yourself. If you did that to Hannah, she would send you the fuck. She'd be like, get back in the limo. Oh, no.

Hannah sends me home. I want to hang out with her so bad. Okay, yeah. Good. I'm glad that you're just shitting on the contestant for a podcast that we're about to get on. Yeah, we got to do eight episodes. I'm not going to pretend to like her.

Yeah, we're about to do an entire season's worth of content around like eight episodes. I'm not going to pretend to like her. Yeah, we're about to like do an entire season's worth of content around this person and you're just going to immediately like, you know, diminish her. I'm not going to pretend to like Hannah. Wow. That doesn't mean it's not going to be a great season. Hi, Dalyan. I don't have a Hannah yet. I will work on a Hannah impression and it will be the least offensive I've ever done.

I don't know if it's the worst thing in the world that you don't have a Hannah yet. Why? I don't know. I think in 2019 you can mock a deep southern accent. Oh, I'm not saying it from that standpoint. I just don't know if I need to. It would be annoying? Yeah. Well, you just, now I'm going to do it.

I'm like a kid. You know this. You're probably wondering what we're doing here. Yeah, we are. People are probably looking for an explanation here. This episode today, it's a little free taste. We're going to take this season of The Bachelorette, starring Hannah, starring our best friend Chris Harrison, and we are going to be doing weekly episodes on this.

As you know, we have done coverage of The Bachelorette in the past. Some people love this. Some people complain about it on our normal episodes. We enjoy doing it, or at least we love to hate doing it. And at this point, we figured, you know what? We're going to watch anyway. Let's get some potties off. What? Well said. What are you looking at? Nothing. I'm nodding my head in agreement.

Today, we are going to do a couple things. We're going to talk about Hannah. We're going to break down the guys. We're going to talk about the 15th anniversary Bachelorette episode last night, which was simultaneously the worst television I've ever seen, mixed with some of the best television ever. It was pretty bad. The parts that were good were great. The parts that were bad, which was probably 80% of it, were absolutely terrible. I bet it did numbers, though.

I don't even know if it did. That was an atrocious moment. I checked Twitter. It was trending. Really? Are you familiar with this? I feel like they've got like an in or something. I don't even know if it did. That was an atrocious moment. I checked Twitter. It was trending. Really? Are you familiar with this? I feel like they've got like an in or something. I wouldn't even have known that it aired if my DVR didn't automatically record it for me.

And of course, you assholes were talking about it. Wait, your what? My DVR. Okay. It sounded like you said DVR, and I thought maybe you, I was hoping that was like a way that you pronounced it. I just spoke a little too quickly. Like the jiff, yiff thing?

Like yiff, jiff. No, it's a DVR. Okay, you're right. It're right digital video recorder although divvy r is kind of tight divvy r that's how they say it in france yeah i'm a divvy on today's episode it's free yeah we're part of the people we like doing that but we got some news the rest of these podcasts are going to exist on patreon yeah uh this is going to be a short-running season. I mean, the seasons don't go that long. Two months, right? Two months or something like that. For an additional $5 if you're already a patron or

if you're new and you just want The Bachelorette content and you don't currently subscribe to our Friday episodes, for just $5 we'll have an extra tier specifically for The Bachelorette. You know, this is also good news for the people who just like to listen to regular episodes of Circling Back without the Bachelorette content in it. Some of them complain, we don't want to hear about it, we don't care, we don't watch the show.

Cool, now you don't have to. Those episodes will just be standard all the way through. I will say, these people, they don't know what they got until it's gone, though. They're going to regret this. You know what I'm going to do? What? Yeah. Give me a second.

Are you going to send videos to every single person that subscribes? No, definitely not. Oh, he's going to do it with the curtain. We're not to regret this. You know what I'm going to do? What? Yeah. Give me a second. Are you going to send videos to every single person that subscribes? No, definitely not. Oh, he's going to do it with the curtain. We're not doing that again. I'm grabbing the curtain here, and I'm going to pull it down. I'm going to pull it back first, and I'm just ripping it down. When we had our little South by event, we had a little South by event. It was small, but we had a good turnout.

I have heard from multiple people that they thought our b, bachelorette talk was kind of lacking. We were kind of doing maybe five to ten minutes. We kind of mailed it in a little bit because we weren't unsure. So this is the perfect forum to issue the fuego takes that some are looking for. I let the haters get to me. I let the people on Reddit, on Twitter, on whatever. I let them get to me when they said, let's Bachelor, let's Bachelor. But I'll be honest.

Dave, can you hand me the curtain rod that you just ripped off the wall, please? I already broke it over my knee. Be careful. Thank you. Yeah, you did. All right. Dave's handing it to me like a relay race.

I'm taking it. On the survey that we did, more people than not watched The Bachelor and Bachelor. Boom. I dove into those numbies last night. We call that a vocal minority, Will. Thousands of people respond to this. Vocal minority

who are against us doing Bachelor content. Yeah. Well, guess what? We're still gonna do it. Mm-hmm. And now you don't have to listen to it if you don't want to,

but we want you to. Some of these haters, though, they're gonna be gutted when they're like, shit, like, I wanna listen, but I was one of the people that responded, no, I don't watch The Bachelor.

I can't listen. Fans only. I was one of those people that responded, no, I don't watch The Bachelor. I can't listen. Fans only. I was one of those people. You know, at first I was like, I don't want to do this, but it's the gift and the curse. We're just so damn good at it that we have to do it to them. We have no choice. We have to.

And honestly, I sneaky do enjoy it now. I do too. After meeting Chris Harrison, not to brag and name drop, but again, we did meet him and do a podcast with him and might get barbecue with him in the near future. Q.

I want to be, I'm all in on it because he is the exact same person you think he's going to be from the show. He's our boy. In person. So if you're wondering how to do this,

go to our normal Patreon page. It's patreon.com slash circling back podcast. Again, patreon.com slash circling back podcast. There's, patreon.com slash circlingbackpodcast. There's a link to that right in the description of this episode. You can click through. We will have a whole different tier.

So if you're already a subscriber, you can add this tier to your little plan. Let me add this. If you can help us think of a name for this damn show, Alleratus. Right? Oh, man. What an offer.

What? You made it sound like you were going to give someone a t-shirt or something. Oh, no, no, no. And you're like, just holler at us. I don't want to crowdsource. There's nothing in it for you. No. I don't like the crowdsourcing.

Don't send us your name. Why? We can't come up with shit. We've got ideas. Sopping wet driveway? That's Dave's idea. Don't fucking... Okay, what's your idea?

I don't know. You didn't throw anything. I'm saying we don't have any good ones yet. Dave, can you hand me the other half of the curtain rod, please? That's Dave's idea. No fucking... Okay, what's your idea? I don't know. You didn't throw anything. I'm sorry, we don't have any good ones yet. Dave, can you hand me the other half of the curtain rod, please? Yeah, here it is. Dylan has put zero names in our group text regarding what to call this. We have one, I think. Dylan, I'm the one holding both rods to the curtain.

You could have said Chris Harrison's Fart Factory. We'd be like, well, at least it's a name. Yeah, at least Dylan tried. I don't want to do that. Yeah. I don't want to do a Fart Factory one. You're probably wondering, like, okay, so what do I get with this subscription? What do I get?

$5 a month. You get an episode every single Tuesday. That being said, if they do a two-night extravaganza like they're likely to do a couple times, we'll probably put out the episode on Wednesday instead of Tuesday. Just, you know, cover all of our bases. You will also get some words, some written words from someone you might have heard from in the past. This is actually really big. This is actually probably worth more than $5 than what we're offering you.

But his name is Kirk Watson. Are you familiar with him? Doctor. Very, very familiar with this man. He is the go-to for Bachelor recaps. I'm going to go on record and i'm gonna i'm gonna add somebody and it's mainly because i had to deal with this for literally years while editing his stuff people were always like have you ever read the the recaps of the betches podcast uh or on on betches of like

the bachelor i'm like no cricks are better cricks are 100 better all they do on there is that they write like one sentence and put a gif in there. No, get that out of here. Crick gives fuego takes for like thousands of words. That's what people are calling good content these days? He'll do like 3,500 words if you're not careful. No, if you're not careful, he'll do like 7,000 words. He'll twist.

They're doing the BuzzFeed format? Mm-hmm. Oh, come on. Get out of here. All Sally's friends were like, you should read these ones. I'm like, no, I don't need to. I got my A1 right here. His name's Crick.

Whatever, man. He's your A1 steak sauce. He's the A1 steak sauce of Bachelor Recaps. A1's a good sauce, not for steak. Like, you can put it on other things. I've never tried A1 steak sauce. You can put it on other things, and it tastes great. Dipping your french fries in it is better than ketchup.

What? Ketchup's trash, though. Everyone knows that. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't bring out food on this. You know where this goes. It's such a mid-tier.

Ketchup is not trash. It's such a mid-tier condiment. What's your fucking problem? I saw where this was going. We will also... This is not paid content. This is free. We're giving something out for free as well.

You might be familiar with her. We've gassed her up on the podcast before. Her name's TheRealCatPat. She's on Twitter. She did a viral thread of every single contestant who we're about to break down ourselves. And we have recruited her. She's going to be live-tweeting

this season of The Bachelorette from at CirclingBackPod on Twitter. Look out for it. She's probably going to be better at this than we are, which is why we recruited her. I did not know that she was as into the show until I saw that.

Her little tweet thread, which it made me happy. It was a good thread. It was a great thread. It wasn't a good thread. It was a great thread. Yes. So either way, if you are interested in this, go to patreon.com slash circlingbackpodcast.

It's $5 for the next couple months. And yeah, we're going to try to bring all the content we can regarding this season. It'll be five for month one, five for month two, just to be clear. Yeah, and if it bleeds into the next month, which I'm not sure when the actual finale is then i feel like they always drag it out yeah they're i mean they're known for dragging it out we're gonna get some three hour eppies will they have to cancel at the end of the run or can we just shut that tier down dylan i don't know i'm looking out for the people here i know i know you are i know you are i yeah this is this is something i don't know about we will get to the bottom of that. And we'll make you aware.

Yeah, of course. We're not going to hope that you guys forget to cancel. We will make a post that says, hey, cancel your shit right now. Yeah. We're not putting out episodes anymore. Oh, so it's not going to be like the $2 a month subscription service that I've had on my ledger for like five years and I don't know how to delete it? Found out yesterday that I've been paying $25 a month for Spotify. Oh, you get Hulu with that though.

My Spotify shut down, uh, over Christmas and I couldn't figure out how to get it up and running again. Wouldn't take my credit card. So I resubscribed through Apple podcasts or through it. Sorry. iTunes app store, whatever. And so I had not one, but two subscriptions to Spotify. You just don't need that.

I had to cancel my $15 one yesterday, and I kept my $9 one. What the hell? What the hell? What the hell? What the hell? I mean, it's like the NFL Red Zone. Like, I pay $5 a month for it, but am I paying for it now when it's not even football season? Or did they just stop my payment?

I don't even know. I don't cancel it. Wait. I thought that was included. Who's your cable provider? U-verse's your cable provider u-verse interesting it's an add-on not a five dollar add-on universe hmm like i don't cancel i'm probably paying for it too i have espn plus i was like i was using dummy emails for like months and then finally i was like you know what i'm just gonna pay for it and do it and now now i'm just paying five dollars a month for espn plus even though i watch nothing on it um they've got good they've got ufc cards occasionally but there will be premium ones that are pay-per-view still

so don't support that don't support that oh no no you're right yeah you can't say that you're giving ufc stuff out and then upsell people. That's such bullshit. Yeah. The best is the day that I actually decided to pay for it, and I was like, you know what? I'm just going to eat the cost. It was the first day that the service just straight up wouldn't work, and I couldn't watch the game I wanted to watch.

I've had two occasions where I've been unable to watch something on ESPN+. They were not prepared for the launch. Makes sense. But you know who is prepared for the launch. Makes sense. But you know who is prepared for the launch? We are. You mean www.patreon.com slash circlingbatpodcast? That's exactly what I mean. The collective we?

Yeah. Should we get into it? Yeah. Bam and Hannah. We know Dylan's thoughts. Yeah, made that clear within the first minute. Dylan, lead us off, man. This is like This Weekend in Fun.

You can lead us off. I just find her so irritating. She does nothing for me. There's nothing. What does her hair do? Is it center parted? I didn't even notice. Oh, yeah.

If you're new here, Dylan, and you're a lady and you have a middle part, you may as well just turn it off because Dylan hates you. Yeah, because Dylan will just flame you for the rest of the season. I'm not going to keep going in on the middle part. I think they're phasing out, by the way, which is great news for everybody. I think literally both Dave and I are romantically connected with someone with the middle part. Yeah, my wife. My wife, actually.

Yeah, my fiance. I always forget about them. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, cool. I'll just shave Sally's head in her sleep, man. Okay. Yeah, she just doesn't do anything for me and the whole tuscaloosa

thing what's your problem with tuscaloosa we get it nothing but i didn't realize she was from tuscaloosa i thought she just went to school there so she's like double bama person and that's just a little obnoxious for me like everything about that town is just so bama and she's well that's like a ut person who's from aust. Well, I understand. But Tuscaloosa and Austin are very, very different places. Oh, man, they're very similar. Politics, everything.

No, they're very different. They're pretty much carbon copies of each other. Yeah. Yeah, the Bama stuff is just a little much for me. I understand how people can get annoyed with Hannah

and how she's a lot. That being said, I think she's going to be a great Bachelorette. I said this when they came out with her as a Bachelorette. I think she's going to be great. She's definitely not a robot. No.

Not to add all my pageant peeps out there, but there's a little bit of a stigma on pageant people. Like Kaylin? Yeah, maybe Kaylin. And I'm thinking about some previous contestants on the show that they don't really show a lot of emotion. You know exactly what you're going to get because they're very prepared

and their responses to certain things are very robotic. I don't think that's Hannah, though. And I'm looking forward to that. It was weird that the bachelor producers kaylin and hannah had like a beef in the beginning of the season and the entire time hannah was just kind of like i don't i don't want this smoke still don't really understand how that got settled what do you mean she was the antagonist at the beginning of the season hannah was how so she was she was the one kaylin was just sitting back kind kind of letting Hannah go crazy about her.

She was just talking about how Kaylin was crazy, not a good person. And then it kind of... I think it came out that she was totally right. The script flipped halfway through the season is my point. Well, I don't know if that's totally accurate. Yeah, it is. Kaylin was kind of a B towards uh hannah like the entire time okay maybe so but hannah was the one like pushing the narrative the entire time about the

beef that's a fact no yes it is no it's not caitlin back and watch dog caitlin it's not a fact yes it is caitlin was like caitlin was like driving it home to the point where like she was going to go home because of it and then finally she she had to sit Hannah down and be the nice mediator. See, I think how this was all resolved is changing on how you think of this. Well, I think this, sirs. I believe that Hannah looked like the antagonist in this because they edited her to kind of be crazy. She did the roar thing. And it was like, oh, here's this wild ass chick from the deep south.

You know, watch out for her. I feel like it just kind of, there wasn't like one moment that they kind of made up. It just kind of happened over time. And none of them looked that bad for it. Like Hannah, everybody likes Hannah for the most part. Like they just think that she's going to be a little awkward as the bachelorette i think the whole situation played kaylin out of even sniffing the back apparently she thought she was like the shoe in for it yeah which she's also a pageant chick right i think the basis of what i'm trying to say is hannah looked like the crazy one

throughout the first part of the season yeah that's because then it flipped kaylin was more calculated like when it came to the whole argument. Sure. She's more polished. And so the way that she was doing it... Hannah was more unhinged. And Hannah was unhinged. I think she was unhinged

because she was like, this is ridiculous. Sure, I get it. Yeah. But she still looked just perceptive. That being said, Kaylin was definitely trying to... She was trying to catch a body

in the form of Hannah. I'll be honest i don't remember the specifics i just i remember thinking when we were watching it that i didn't think either of them were that malicious in it and it just it seemed like they never really talked about they it's almost like they couldn't talk about why what the real root of the beef was if it was just a friendly rivalry or if it was like you know one event i remember in the beginning just thinking oh man kaylin's gonna run this girl out of town and then a couple it might have been one episode or a couple episodes after i was like oh shit hannah's the one who's correct here and kaylin's the crazy one it's just that she is like calculated and she knows exactly what buttons she's pressing she's a silent killer

yeah and then i was like oh hannah hannah's going crazy because she's so fed up with this and this is probably exactly what happened during their pageant days yeah i still don't think we know exactly what happened i did read some rumors on reddit at one point about like what actually happened i'm pretty deep in The Bachelorette at this point. I respect that. This very podcast actually got scorched on Reddit for... Oh, yeah. What did we get? Who was that on there? It was Dylan.

Oh, yeah. Are we talking about the same thing? Was it the Bree stuff? The Bree stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bree stuff. Remember Bree from... They thought that I was creeping on her.

Yeah. There were a lot of idiots on there who just like... Really dumb idiot people. Here's the thing that was frustrating about that that they didn't press the listen button and actually listen to what happened yeah they just they just made gross assumptions their reddit is full of like trolls and i think that the bachelorette reddit might be one of the worst cases of it it's a lot of people that just want to like weigh in on bullshit well we better hop in there yeah yeah we should tell them about the new pod you know becca b-e-k-a-h that

becca short hair uh-huh oh yeah you know she got pregnant did not she she so she got pregnant she had her baby and she's selectively vaxxing her baby selectively vaccine she's only doing selective vaccinations okay oh people aren't happy about that man it's tough in uh 2019 to be uh not an ant is that is that the same as an anti-vaxxer you know what you're you're it's the same in my book because you're anti you're anti some vaxes okay is that the same as doing so i know some some people like to space out the vaccinations they don't want to give them all at once is that selective no so like there's like selective it's like we don't want this one we don't this we're gonna do malaria we're gonna do uh the diabetes we're gonna do the diarrhea one but we're not gonna do the uh smallpox smallpox is that a real one because i don't know clearly yeah i don't

know good smallpox stinks oh measles that's a big one that's I don't know clearly. Yeah, I don't know. Good. Smallpox stinks. Oh, measles. That's a big one that's making a comeback. Yeah. That ship, the Scientology ship. Oh, yeah. How about that story? Dude, so many people tagged me in that. How tight would it be if they had a diarrhea vaccine?

Dude, it would... Oh, that'd be tight. Had a rocket just hit the Scientology ship and sunk in it with all those people with measles? Like, it wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world. That hit the Scientology ship and sunk in it with all those people with measles, it wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world. That's a Scientology ship? Yeah. Did you see that?

They quarantined the entire Scientology cruise ship because of a measles outbreak. You hate to see it. It could have happened to a better group of people. I did not know it was Scientology. Yikes. Sheesh. Yikes. Sheesh. Yikes.

I like Hannah. I think she's going to be a good Bachelorette. I get why people maybe are rubbed the wrong way by her. She's pretty out there. But I think one of you said something about she's not a robot. Yes. She will be. Her unhingedness, I think it will play into content.

I think she will have a lot of unintentionally good content for us becca was like just like a double in the gap like she was she was a nice person yeah she had nothing wrong with her but she didn't do anything she didn't go over the top as a bachelorette if you're new here i think that we started this thing on a previous podcast and our first season was jojo yeah so we came out of the gate with like the goat i don't think any i don't know i think we're all big jojo guys you know how highly held she is in the bachelor community how i would imagine pretty high the description for the 15th anniversary special last night said jojo fletcher and other bachelorettes. Damn. Like, she was the one that they were like, yep, her.

Are they married yet? Dude, I don't know. They've got a show together, so. They're flipping houses. That's one of the elements of common law marriage in Texas. You have a show, a reality show with the guy. I can't imagine just being like, all right, I got some money now. I got a big social following.

I'm going to start flipping houses. That seems like a really stressful way to make your money when you could just be selling fit teas well if you can turn into a tv show that's very lucrative yeah true but still it sounds like probably the plan the whole time does jordan still have his sec network gig i think so that's pretty good for him yeah they're doing all right you know what they turned down so i actually dove into the reddit there's like a list of shows that they actually had sent to them they turned down they were gonna do it's a it's just basically a pimp my house and like jordan and jojo show up and they put like a fish tank in your dining room and shit shut up yeah did they actually turn down the concept like this or are you doing a bit right i made all that up none of

that's true to my knowledge i could see that it being a show like where they go in didn't they do that that was a show at one point on like mtv where they like redid people's rooms or is it room raiders we heard you like roller coasters we installed one in your backyard yeah we put the mini mine train in your living room yeah oh man god damn it we can talk about these that's a tight-ass show these dudes let's talk about these dudes. Let's talk about these dudes. So, previous years, they've put out a lot of information on the contestants. Are they called contestants? What do you call them? Sure. Suitors?

Suitors. The patrons. This year, they didn't, which is a red flag for me. It's like they know something bad is going to happen. There's no information out there on them, besides the photos that we have. There's no bio stuff. So people can still get the Intel, but it's just,

it makes them a little bit less Googleable. Yes. You know what I mean? So instead of like Todd, a from Dallas, who's a dentist. Now you got to go look up all the Todd days in Dallas to get the dirt. Yeah.

You don't have that other level of specificity. And that's why they, they leave the last names off. They just give you the initial, right. To make these guys less Google-able. Right. Isn't that kind of the idea behind it?

Protect their privacy. What we do have is that the scummy people of Reddit put together a spreadsheet on the Bachelor page. The spreadsheet has their names, their ages, their locations, their careers. And then they also have what they call the tea. I don't think we're going to do the tea. Man, are we going to ruin tea? We should. Yeah, we should.

No, tea needs to get ruined. What's the tea? I don't like it. What's the tea, Dylan? Spill the tea. Spill the tea. What's the tea? Tea's hot today.

Shut up. Shut up. The only tea I want is testosterone. Yeah. A lot of that in here because we are three males. Hell yeah. Dylan's on estrogen blockers. We will be using this spreadsheet as a guideline

because I think that the professions that they have listed here are pretty accurate. And I think we can tell a lot from these professions. Should we start? Yeah. First, we have Mateo V, 25, from Atlanta, Georgia. In his photo, he's wearing a brown leather jacket and a black t-shirt. He looks like, if you told me to craft a Bachelor contestant, this is what I would say he looks like.

He's the most generic looking person in America. He's from Atlanta. He's a consultant at Deloitte, but possibly quit to do some modeling. Like, be more boring, dude. This guy might go far because he's just like the prototype for Bachelor. Mateo's a great name. Do you think like his name was actually Matt and like just for the show? He's like, no, there's gonna be like 16 other Matts on this season.

I gotta go Mateo. I don't hate that move. It's a good way to distinguish yourself. I can't wait to hear Hannah say the name Mateo. Hey, Mateo. Hey, it's me. That's funny. Yeah, this guy's just generic white dude.

I'm already bored with him. Show me this, dude. You go. Oh. Like, come on, man. Is that the Fight Club jacket? If you are wondering where we're getting these from and you're sitting at your desk like bored

and you can't look at these photos, I've put a link to what we're referencing right now in the description of this episode. Just watch out for that. It's very generous. Yes. Are we going to go down and talk about every single dude? Let's just breeze through them.

Should I do an impression of each one? Hey, what's up, Smiteo? I feel like every impression is going to sound the exact same. It's all just frat Dave. Yeah, I used to fuck around and work for Deloitte But I got out there and did my own gig Was he in a frat? I don't like to talk about it

Joseph B Chicago Great city He's 30 he's an account rep at Continental Packaging Dylan weren't you an account rep there too? Nope I wasn't dave it's weird that you would even think that you're just a real estate professional just a real estate professional i'm hoping this guy has an over-the-top chicago accent like remember joe yeah and that's kind of like a lot of the reason why people like joe yeah even though he went home night one still

it's still ridiculous that he went home night one makes no sense red flag for becca i was just like if you don't if you're not on board with joe and you're on board with these other guys like there's something wrong with you all right so looking at him his last name so joseph b i'm hoping it's some over-the-top italian but it could be over-the-top greek belucci yeah or like belusiano or like bali chronopolis i don't know i just i like i want some kind of like over-the-top chicago personality this guy looks like he buys bottles at the club yeah for sure you know what i mean packaging is a good industry to be he can't afford it but he's gonna do it anyway just for the optics he'll venmo you like two days later yeah dude y'all

should come out i know some of the bottle service. You can't do the same impression for every single guy. Well, I'm not going to do another one. Tyler C., Jupiter, Florida. Can I say this guy is most likely to be the biggest fuckboy on the planet? Well, based on Reddit's assessment of him, he's a male model who also does construction. I love that. What? Love that.

Based on all the mugshots on the website, the Bachelorette ABC website, he looks to be the best looking of all of them. So far. Which is not saying much with this group. No, it's not saying much. This is an ugly group. I feel like this guy did some high school wrestling. He has, okay, he has high school, okay, 90s high school villain bully

look. He looks like Dylan McKay a little bit. I don't know who that is. Is that the Columbine guy? 90210. Oh, fuck. The Columbine guy. I don't know. Damn. One of them's name was Dylan. Who are you talking about? 90210. Luke Perry, the guy who just died? Oh, yeah. Rest in peace. Yeah.

He died? Stroke, yeah. Rest in peace. Yeah. He died? Stroke, yeah. You didn't know that? You didn't see that? No. He's apparently really, really well-liked. He gone. Yeah. He gone.

Sad. Sad story. Pull one out. Looks like a younger version of Luke Perry. I didn't know we were going to break this news on the podcast. This guy does look like a... Rest in peace, Luke Perry. This guy...

Well, I think people... It's been a few weeks. It's been a while. Okay. I think this guy is a perfect Tyler. You need a Tyler. T-man. You also need a Luke.

Hey, what's up? Luke P. from Gainesville, Florida, or so-called Gainesville Rock City. From the season preview, this guy looks to be the Chad of the season. Gotta say, he's a wide guy. He looks broad. I don't know about the two-button long-sleeve polo in the pick move. How do you feel about the chain around the neck underneath the long-sleeve polo? I got a friend in Chicago named John Duda that would really appreciate that.

He has not one but two bracelets on. Looks like he shaves his arms. Is that an apple? What's that watch? Oh, he definitely shaves his arms because he's got some grisly hair up top. Yeah, he's very vascular. He definitely shaves his arms because he's got some grizzly hair up top. Yeah, he's very vascular.

It looks like he didn't wet out the hanger marks on the shoulders of his shirt before his bachelor thing. Yeah, this guy stinks. This guy sucks. This guy smells like curve. He also looks like you'd beat the fuck out of me, so shout out to him. His occupation is listed as entrepreneur. Okay. AKA unemployed.

Yeah. AKA he tried to start a gym. He played college baseball. Okay. He was definitely outfield just pounding that glove constantly. He's Dylan's boy. At Florida, I would guess, since he's from Gainesville, it says. Gainesville, yeah. GA.

I will say this, and this is not a good thing. As far as the Reddit spreadsheet goes, he has one of the longer T-sections. And I'm not talking testosterone. So he might be one to watch. He is one to watch, according to the preview, like I said. Jed W., Nashville, Tennessee. Okay. Jed W. Nashville, Tennessee.

Okay. It says here, this guy might be either a total non-player or a good guy, but he is a musician. He's got a funny-shaped head. He's got a musician look. He's from Nashville. This guy's playing the third floor of the Swamp or whatever bar on Broadway that Dylan went to the other night. That t-shirt is too tight.

His head looks like his baseball cap size is like 7 7 8. You think it's a big head or a tiny head? He's got like pinky in the brain head. That's basically my size. 7 7 8? I have a big head, dog. Wait, do we think this guy's big? Or just his head? Just his head.

Just a big head. The circumference of his skull is massive. The shape of it, it just... It flares out. Just his head. Just his head. Just a big head. The circumference of his skull is massive. Yeah. The shape of it, it just... It flares out. His head looks like an ice cream cone. It looks like he's wearing a Kabbalah bracelet. I don't like wearing a shirt this tight.

No. You're just begging for the pee stains. Yes. Right? We're talking pit. Isn't that the first thing you think about when you put on a shirt like that? It's like, I'm going to sweat through this immediately. We needed a Connor here.

Dude, this is my guy. He's from Dallas. Dude, look at this dude. They must have taken this pic on a Thursday since it was Henley Thursday. Is that even a Henley? Oh yeah, it's definitely Henley. Sorry.

Okay, this guy. Okay, this is one of them that we will read the T for. Can I guess where he went to college? Somewhere in the South. I'm going to say either Ole Miss or SMU. I don't know where he went based on anything, but I will say that I will

skew SMU solely because he's currently an analyst at Goldman Sachs. I'm not saying you can't go from Ole Miss to being an analyst at Goldman Sachs. I'm just saying you have a better chance if you go to SMU. His T says Freddie, but not Dou you go to SMU. His T says Freddy, but not douchey.

That's what our T says. Nice guy. He's just got an amazing helmet of hair. He's doing the swoop thing, though, which is a weird move for someone working for Goldman Sachs. He's also a 24-year-old dude in

2019. Get rid of the swoop, my guy. Yeah, you can't swoop it, dog. You know what? I applaud him for not giving in to what these other contestants have been doing the last few years and just going straight up fuckboy, straight up Luke or Chad from the old seasons. He's going Eli Manning. When are we going to get a guy that just has normal hair? Chris Harrison?

Yeah. Matt D. Okay, this is not Matt D. This is actually Caucasian James. Matt D. from Los Gatos, California. That means the cats. The cats, yeah. He came straight from the office, apparently.

Yeah. He works in a cool office. He's in business cash. Apparently apparently we have two matt d's which is going to be confusing this season uh but this matt d from the cats california is in regional sales at osiris therapeutics is that the skate company is he's definitely not the same company low-key skater i there's something about this guy they don't have his entire outfit but is he wearing osiris shoes in this some big clunky boys there's no way he's got a weird hairline too is he sponsored by mizzen and main this guy is the most mizzen and main looking dude on the show

like he's got the moisture wicking fabric how many times has this guy played pebble beach in his life okay this dude definitely gets a lot of Clies out on the course. A lot of Clies? Yeah, Clients. Oh. Gets them out there. Are people doing Clies? People are not doing Clies.

I don't know if people are doing Clies. You guys wouldn't get it. The next up might be my favorite just based on looks alone. Luke S, 29 out of Washington, D.C. He looks like Bobby Bones. I don't know what Bobby Bones looks like. I just know what it looks like.

That's true. I don't either. Yeah. This guy looks like he is either going to be a little rascal or he's just going to be a dud. What's with that smirky smile here? He knows something we don't. All right. He's got the longest.

He's got the longest. T? No. His T is actually very good. I'll read his. know something we don't all right he's got the longest uh oh he's got the longest uh tea no his tea is his tea is actually very good i'll read his he's a waiter at stoney's in dc possibly a fundraising consultant at fraile and associates apparently worked on obama's campaign and administration and if you look at his jacket in this photo that makes sense that he would be on the obama campaign he's kind of the hip guy he's a hit boy this guy listen to pod save America definitely yeah I wouldn't know what I did I wouldn't know what about this jacket he said the the tea on him says a generally nice guy and understanding seems to be

there for the right reasons but apparently just started a liquor label going on Bachelorette could be a coincidence could be strategic mm-hmm X had nothing but good things to say about him. So apparently the person on Reddit is interviewing X's now. What do we think about the entire fit here? Because I kind of like the jacket. I don't know about the collar. I can't figure out that jacket.

The collar situation is weird. I actually dig the jacket. What I don't dig is that... No belt? He's not wearing a belt. What's up with that? He's tucked in with no belt. You know, if they're custom pants, if they're tailored. Still, I don't understand why you wouldn't go belt. He went pocket square in that coat for a weird reason.

That's one of those coats that I would think is cool until I got it and tried to wear it, and it wouldn't work for me, and I would regret the $400 purchase. You couldn't step out in it? No, I would just take a few pics and then just hang it back up. We got Dustin. Okay. Not sure about the scoop neck with the jacket over it, but we're doing it. And the nose ring.

It's not just even a scoop neck. It's like a long T. It's like when your little nephew is trying to wrestle with you and he tugs your shirt down and ruins it. You can't wear a long tee with a sport coat. No. By the way, I can't wait for the long tee thing to go the fuck away. He also did the move. His pocket square is the exact same color as his jacket.

Do you have a long tee, Will? I have a tee that looks... I think it's accidentally long. I hate the look. Yeah, I don't wear it because it looks a little too long. No it's accidentally long I hate the look I don't wear it because it looks a little too long Long tees are trash If you wear a long tee I hate you If you have my body type and you're wearing a long tee

You're just not self aware You have to be jacked You're pretty jacked I don't think I've ever seen a long tee in person Sure you have Colton's dad wore a long tee in person yeah sure you have you absolutely really you absolutely have colton's dad wore a long t um okay during the hometown visit thing we got brian b 30 louisville kentucky what's what's wrong with his smile why is he doing that because did they put up they

it's such an awkward situation you want to know why based on on the tea? He's a theater guy. A theater guy? He's a theater guy. Okay. Brian B., maybe a good dude going home night one. Yeah, he looks dorky. I don't know. Hannah might be that kind of girl who likes dorky, though. Is she that?

What do we? Have we talked about that? Like, do we think she's into alphas? Or is she into like? I think she wants an alpha. You do? I don't think you leave Tuscaloosa, Alabamaama not looking for some just like alpha that's fair i don't know this guy i don't i don't like this guy theater people intimidate me they if they start singing

at any given moment it just it it makes me feel uncomfortable i gotta leave the room it throws me off uh this might be my power player of the entire season oh It's John Paul, 24, from New Carrollton, Maryland. This is actually Mark Paul Gosler. Dude, this guy definitely plays lax. That's a shirt that it's hard to wear untucked like he's doing. It's just the tail's too long. That's that button down he bought for his first job out of college. It was just huge and out of style, and he's still wearing it,

and it doesn't look good untucked, so he has to do the hands in the pockets at all times, so you can't see how long it hangs. His shirt's too big on him, too. I know that move. This guy dangles. This shirt's way too big. He does look like a hockey player.

Did you say he dangles? Dude, this guy's got lacrosse written all over him. Oh, lax. Does he not have serious Zach Morris face? Is he dangle? You can't dangle in hockey? No, you definitely dangle in hockey. Oh, okay.

I think, in terms of sports, I think hockey and lacrosse have similar lingos. I think you could do both. This guy could play both. Here we have an absolute piece of meat. Tyler G, 28, from Boca Raton. Looks like he left his neck at home. Yeah, dude. Good God, man.

He's doing the sweater with no shirt under it look which you know just screams i have to get this dry clean tomorrow yeah yeah i'm not a fan of not a fan of that but i have done it he clearly hit up harrison before i was like is there gonna be some dumbbells that i can shrug before the photo this guy's this guy's kind of oh okay says he's uh a regional sales manager for a Spike Seltzer company. That makes sense. Is that White Claw? Is he a White Claw guy? Probably.

He went to Florida Atlantic University studying clinical psychology. These little bracelets these guys are wearing, they must be in or something. He has a little beaded one. They look like miniature butt plugs. Why? Do you remember? Why the bracelets? Never mind.

What? I was going to ask if you saw the Adam Sandler sketch on SNL for Rectix. Squee-dobber. Did you see that? No. Oh, well, okay. Never mind. Oh, yes, I did.

That was stupid. The butt plug? No, that was amazing. That wasn't good. I don't like butt humor. People know that about me. Oh. I did just make a butt plug joke, though.

Yeah. Dylan B. 24. I did just make a butt plug joke though. Yeah. Dylan B. 24. He spells it the right way. That's true, he does. Well, he spells it one way. He spells it a different way. He's from Sandog, so we got to immediately like him because we're kind of San Diego boys.

This dude just has like a chill vibe. Yeah. Yeah. He looks cool. I got no issue with this guy, really. He seems like a chill dude. yeah he looks cool i got no i got no issue with this guy really he seems like a chill dude he's the co-founder and ce coo of the app visor v-i-z-e-r does anyone know what that app does no about to find out exercise donate redeem okay so exercise to donate meals to charity earn while

you do it. You know what? Let me just lift. Let me just lift. I don't need a cause. This guy's monetizing lifting, dude. Finally, an app plan you'll want to stick with. Sorry, a workout plan. What is he doing?

What is he doing? Working out for all my partial vaccines out there or whatever it is. What was it? Semi-vaccine? Semi-vaxxers. It says one in seven San Diegans. I don't like that. I don't like San Diegans.

What if we've been thinking about this all wrong and the semi-vaxxer thing, it's where you just get your semi-vaccinated so it doesn't stay a semi? I don't think that's what it is, David. I don't know about this app. This is weird. It says one in seven San Diegans do not have access to enough food for an active, healthy lifestyle.

So like, are they giving food to the less fortunate? Are they giving food to people that are eating like shit who are trying to like get gains? Hey man, your diet's trash. You're not seeing results in the weight room. Here you go. Yeah, dude. If you sign up for Visor, we will double the amount of chicken breast you can buy every week.

I don't know about this, dude. He's from San Diego, though. We're cool. Peter W. 27, Westlake Village, California. This guy looks like a total boner. This guy looks like a dude that I would hang out with, though, which is accurate. No, he's a boner. He has nothing on this spreadsheet.

Nothing. So that's got to be the biggest red flag, right? This guy looks like a cheese dick. He does. Just an absolute cheese dick. He looks like he would be a successful Nashville country musician. He kind of has Luke Bryan look.

What a dorkier version. Going with that t-shirt under that blazer with that belt in those jeans. This guy, he was really cool in his town. In Westlake Village? Yeah, but he can't. He's a big fish in a small pond in his town, but then he leaves that place. It's over.

It's over for you, Hoes. Hunter, Westchester, California. I'll be honest. I like this shirt. I like this shirt. I like that shirt, too. White shirt, sleeve buttoned down. No one's doing that. Apple Watch had to do it to him.

He's a good looking dude, I guess. Yeah. He's a surfer and video editor, so he likes party waves. Oh, tight. Cassie, of Colton's season, follows him on Instagram. Hmm. Interesting. Makes you think. Well, she's from California, right? Dude, sur him on Instagram. Hmm. Interesting. Makes you think.

Well, she's from California, right? Dude, surfer. Maybe they know each other. Surfer from Westchester Cal. Kind of into it. That sure does kind of fuck, man. Dude, this guy is, this guy might be my top dog right now.

I don't think he's going to win, but I like him. He's my fave. Hunter. Okay, let's roll with him. Darren B. 25 years old from Atlanta Georgia Okay also came straight

From the office Do you want info on him Looks like he potentially has giant hands If I'm not mistaken his dad is famous Okay Ready for who it is I don't know if you're ready for who it is. Oh, give us, okay, give us, like, sports, music.

Sports. Hmm. Atlanta. He played for the Falcons. Oh. Incorrect, Dylan. Baseball. Incorrect.

He played for the Braves. Incorrect. Can I just tell you who it is? Sure. Do you want to guess? Wait. His last name is B. This is John Smoltz's kid.

It's not John Smoltz's kid. Who did he just tell us? M-M-M-M-Mookie. Mookie Blaylock? Mookie Blaylock's son. No shit. I think so. I think I read that somewhere like a while ago.

Mookie served three years for vehicular homicide. Yeah, people forget that. Wait, what? Also the original name of Pearl Jam. Mookie Blaylock was the original name of Pearl Jam? Yeah, I verified that, but I'm pretty sure that's accurate. What? I can't tell if you're joking.

No, I'm not. Dude, that is... Mookie Blaylock? Look, I swear, Will. Confirm. Are you making me... If you waste my time... I would not, dude. I swear. I swear. Dude, there's something there. You swear, Will. Confirm. Are you making me... If you waste my time... I would not, dude.

I swear. I swear. Dude, there is something there. You're absolutely right. Thank you. How? And although the band was originally named Mookie Blaylock... Because it's a dope name.

...after the NBA point guard, Pearl Jam was not his nickname. That's weird. They changed their name to avoid legal problems. Dude, what? Probably the move. But 10, the title of their debut album was blaylock's jersey number dude that's weird that's why i'm so obsessed with mookie blaylock doesn't make any sense yeah that's weird um i don't know i don't think this guy's mustang power i don't either he

looks like he would be good at handling my finances. Like, this outfit just screams like, yeah, I crunched numbers behind my desk. He looks like he looks for fights at the bar. To me. He's big. He looks giant. He's looking for an excuse to square up. He does look like the son. Oh, we got a local boy.

Mike J, 31, San Antonio. Kind of local. This shirt is trash. What he's doing here in this shirt is trash. What is this shirt? What is going on here on this shirt? This shirt is trash. It's very adventurous, very bold. Went out on a limb.

And he did not... He swung and missed. He's a pilot. I respect my pilots. Oh, hell yeah. I love pilots. Pilots are cool, but this shirt is not. Oh, shit.

Oh, wait, wait. Air Force. Is it Air Force? It doesn't say anything. San Antonio. Probably. Okay, cool. Shouts to the troops.

We're sorry for insulting your shirt i will say that if you keep scrolling down on this but that we're looking at devin h's shirt is way worse than do that mice yeah there's hawaiians and then there's like hawaiians devin is this is a guy he like lives at the domain form-fitting hawaiian yeah you don't wear a small form-fitting like skinny hawaiian why are all these dudes wearing their apple watches like just take them off for the photo dude oh here's the guy here's the local guy devin's got no information on him cameron 30 this is the dude who when oh my god when they announced hannah and they rolled out a few guys this is the dude who spit one of the worst freestyles i i want nothing to do with cameron why look at him oh yeah yeah um looks like he has a really complicated order at starbucks you know he's in software sales which makes sense

mark my words he's probably gonna do this podcast you said what you said what about him at starbucks looks like he has a really complicated order at starbucks like he customizes it big time i think this guy might have some staying power because uh oh my god yeah it says he has a big personality that could rub some rub some people the wrong way rapping has always been his quote thing hey cameron lose that terrible bracelet. What are you doing? Hey, what's his occupation? Software sales. So this guy definitely posts up with a lappy at the coffee shop. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, he's going to do this podcast at some point. He has to like, yeah. Don't pull the tape, Randy, by the way. Thomas S., 27 Southfield, Michigan. Kind of like the shirt okay my southfield boys like this like this a lot where's southfield southern michigan southern not up not the up this guy has no information on him on the spreadsheet which is in my opinion that's a good thing okay looks like he just took this shirt straight out

of the box or something. He did. I think he did. Yeah. He used to iron it. It was like in plastic wrapping and they were like, hey, try this shirt. It has the creases. Yeah.

They needed to steam that. Oh, here's the guy. Oh. My. God. Jason. Jason. What's up, man? Jason.

Not Jason. Chasen. What's up, Chasen? Chasen. Yeah, I'm going to call Chasenen. What's up, Chasen? Chasen. Yeah, I'm going to call Chasen up. Where's Washington, huh? Longview, Washington. Chasen is from Longview.

He's a pilot. Okay. And I'm not going to read his T. This dude crushes. This guy does very well with the pilot community. He went full suit in this photo, which is an interesting move. He also came straight

from the finance office. But he's a pilot. Exactly. He does finances in the air. Wow. I don't know if I want my pilots doing finances

in the air. Just crushing numbies. Yeah. I don't know. He looks like he might have some crushing numbies. Yeah, that's what I numbies Ryan, Philly

women's healthcare industry is what he's in it's Henley Thursday he must have taken the photo on Thursday as Dylan said I don't like this guy, I don't like his face his head is too round, his hair is trash his smile is punchable yeah this guy sucks another guy with a bracelet

you can see a bracelet peeking through his sleeve. Why does everyone have a stupid little bracelet on? I don't know. Should we start selling bracelets to everyone that subscribes on Patreon at patreon.com slash tricklingbackpod? We should sell the yellow ones that say Liv Moss. They traded friendship bracelets or something. It's weird.

What if they're slap bracelets? I like the Liv Moss bracelets more. This guy's going home night one. He sucks. Matthew S., 23 years old from Newport Beach. This guy could be your son, Dylan. This dude closes. We're talking over-groomed beard, though.

This dude's 23, but you could convince me that he's also 33. His lines are too clean. This is the guy who I think... Just to be clear, we are a no-spoiler podcast, but I think this was pretty big news. I'm pretty sure that he gets sent home because of some racial things that he had online. You need to see it. He had a Pinterest board that was called Please Be Offended.

Oh, okay. And apparently it was filled with several memes and graphics that you wouldn't necessarily want to post elsewhere. He's got a chest tat peeking through the shirt there. Well, let's check that out. Yep, let's zoom in on that. It looks like it is script. Yes, it makes sense that this guy would have some racist Pinterest boards. It's interesting.

You don't see a lot of racism in the Pinterest community. I was going to say, who's even doing patron or uh pinterest boards yeah like i don't know a single guy that has a pinterest usually people keep their racism to twitter and this guy went pinterest so you have to respect that he's kind of like uh allegedly we got i don't know i mean we don't know i think i think there are actual news stories he gets his eyebrows fucked too by the way grant e san clemente he looks like one of the older ones of the group he's got some gray in his beard uh you know actual news stories. He gets his eyebrows fucked too, by the way. Grant E. San Clemente. He looks like one of the older ones of the group.

He's got some gray in his beard. Oh, you know. Looks like a okay dude. Tell me that this guy doesn't look like he has flip-flops on.

Yeah, this is... Yeah, absolutely. Like, this guy's definitely wearing flip-flops with his khakis. He should have, like, not expected to take a picture this day.

Yeah, he's like, oh, that's... That's today? He's got the designer undersh this day. Yeah, he's like, oh, that's today. He's got the designer undershirt on. I thought he was just signing some paperwork. According to his LinkedIn, he can't spell. What? Well, that's embarrassing.

Yeah, like, why would you put that on LinkedIn? So people aren't endorsing for spelling. Why would you share that? So he has the little email signature that says, please forgive typos. Set for my iPhone. Yeah. Kevin F. Illinois.

Very generic. This is a generic guy. Hey, cool bracelet, Kevin. Big forearms on Kevin, though. What's up with his torso? What is up with his torso? I can't tell if he's... I honestly think that he's a victim of the shirt.

Is the shirt doing him wrong? Yeah. Yeah, the shirt. Because it looks like he's got some defined pecs, but the shirt billows out. It's really tight on his arms and really loose in the midsection. Makes no sense. That's unfortunate. This guy sucks.

He needs a new stylist. Hey, Kevin, you suck. Sorry. Okay, this says on the spreadsheet, cast pictures did him dirty. Very good looking in person and other photos very nice humble guy possible military background oh wow he did apparently get a dui and did not report it to the show or the army who fucking cares duis are the new mip no they're not

don't drink and drive you have to report it to the show i guess any criminal background yeah you know what maybe the show should have found that in the background check. Maybe that's how they did find it. I don't know. Yeah. Don't, don't, you know. Also. This isn't the fucking state bar.

No. This is the bachelor. Like, based on, who was that guy that, like, pooped on his floor and stuff? Ooh. Haven't heard much from him lately. That's because I think. Because he pooped on the office floor. I think the bachelor producers had him killed after he didn't report what he did.

That guy got super sketchy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He had much worse than That guy got super sketchy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He had much worse than the poo floor. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure the Bachelor producers tried to ruin his life after because they were just like, no, you did this wrong.

Yeah, I forgot about that. Scott A., Chi-town. How is this a shirt you pick for your moment? What are you doing? So I'm convinced they go in and they've got... Oh, he hit us with a waffle. What are you doing? So I'm convinced they go in and they've got... Oh, he hit us with a waffle. What do you mean? That's like a waffle print,

like undershirt. Oh, is it? Like long underwear. That's probably pretty comfortable. Yeah. It probably plays really well in Chicago, honestly. Yeah, like that's the shirt

that you put on before you get on the couch and watch The Bachelor. He has a bad beard like I do. You have a good beard. Oh, thanks, man. Oh, here's my guy. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Let's go. No, no, no. Let's go, Joey. Joey from Bethesda. That hair. This guy better have the most over-the-top accent. I don't know what a Bethesda, Maryland one sounds like. Maybe it's got a little Baltimore influence.

Who knows? But this is the guy. East Coast, let's go. Be loud, be proud. 33. He's in our demo. That hair, I hate him. This guy's making it. This watch is all time bad. He's going four weeks in, I can call it. The T on him is not great. Terrible

watch. The T on him, I hope it's not true. What does it say? It just says... This is all hearsay. These are unfounded. I mean, I don't know how founded these claims are. It says,

apparently lied to a 21-year-old girl about being 26 when he was really 30 or 31. Secondly, he basically flew her out to D.C., she met all of his friends, he let her on, claimed they were moving too fast, stopped talking to her after the New Year, and then he pops up on The Bachelorette.

So these are just disgruntled exes on the Reddit? Yes, 100%. That being said, fuckboy possibility here. Joey's my guy. No, Dave, stop it. Connor J., 28, Newport Beach. We don't have to shit on everybody. Yeah, we do.

We have to shit on everybody. Dylan, you just said a guy sucked. He did suck. Connor J. No, I didn't shit on the San Diego dude who's a surfer and video editor. That guy's tight. Have we had a lot of Cali people?

Yeah. Okay. This just looks like a normal guy. Another bracelet. The red pants are a move. I don't know if I like it or hate it, but they're a move. Yeah, this guy's going to hold the door open for you at Ralph's. I will shit on this.

I do not like the zipper collar thing. I think that's a weird move. If you zoom in there, that's a zipper. No one's doing zipper collars anymore. Yeah, it'd be weird to have the zipper directly on the chest. Yeah. Like cold or hot. Dude, imagine zipping up your chest hair have the zipper directly on the chest. Yeah. Like cold or hot. Dude, imagine zipping up your chest hair.

He definitely shaves his chest. Yeah, you have to if you're going to pull. Looks like he's in good shape, though. But if you get that directly out of the dryer and you put it on, you might just have a burn on the center of your chest from the zipper. Oh, fuck. This guy has a stupid bracelet on, too. Yeah.

What the fuck? All right, now here's the guy. Garrett P., also known as T-Man. This dude's going far. They've got the Alabama connection. He looks like a standard Bachelorette contestant. He's an assistant pro at a country club. Let's fucking go, Garrett.

Okay. I don't hate him yet. I don't. He has Luke hair. He has like tall Luke. Yeah. I'm going to give him a shot. He's got T-Man hair after T-Man's been sitting at his desk with his hat on all day.

Nobody knows who T-Man is, but just trust us on this. People know who T-Man is. You guys got to trust us. This is T-Man. Jonathan S., 27, Los Angeles, California. I like it. I don't know. Like, I got nothing wrong.

I don't know. Like, he seems like a solid dude. I don't think he goes far, but he seems like normal. That shirt's running way high up on the armpits, and he's going to pit out so hard in that powder. That fabric and that color are definitely going to show the sweat. I want to like that shirt, but the sleeves ruin it. It's a weird move to leave the

bottom button of the shirt unbuttoned. I don't like that. I think he needs to get the shirt tailored and trimmed up about six inches. Not six inches. Three inches. Maybe he should go to untuck it. No. Just to be clear, this is not spawned by Untuckit. That's it.

We did it. It's all of them. I don't know if that was all of them, but I think that was a heavy dose of them. These guys. Well, that was fun. Can I get it? Again. Dave wants a Tinky Break.

I'm sorry. Oh, Dave. I'm also here to listen to it. All right, Tinky Breaks over. As you guys know, last night was the 15th anniversary special for The Bachelorette. Had no clue it went on 15 years. I started watching it, as Dave said, for JoJo's season. That was the first time I ever watched a full season of a Bachelor or Bachelorette.

I did start with The Goat. I know, man. You never forget your first. I've actually actually hated i hated rachel i didn't think she was good she got very annoying at the end of the season we got a lot of rachel last night becca was a nothing burger for me she seems nice has that been the only two since we started covering bachelor i I feel like I was in on not, maybe not doing content on, but Andy, I don't, yes.

Yeah. I don't know. Andy season. Um, and we've obviously we've done bachelor as well, but, um, yeah.

So, I mean, we started off with one of the, not only like one of the best bachelorettes, if not the best, probably the best, but like her cast just had so much gold. It was good.

My first note from last night is, fuck, remember Chad? Chad being on her season was like, wow. Two of the greatest. The biggest alpha in the history of the show. Well, so last night, about halfway through, they did a thing on all the villains. Chad was easily the most ridiculous. He didn't get enough airtime last night, though. through they did a thing on all the villains chad was easily like the most ridiculous he didn't get enough airtime last no he didn't hardly any chad did not um but there were some that so i i had a tweet at d carter rough on twitter um come on dave trash i'm trash

uh the dude who is now reformed and married and looks back very, very begrudgingly on his time. The guy who was just talking shit, calling people cheese dicks, saying that he was just an alpha who was drinking a lot. I might need to go back and watch that guy's season. But now he does triathlons and shoots bows and arrows. Yeah, it's real meditative. Good for him. He started crying. It seemed a little fake to me you know tough

shouts to him for quitting drinking though you saw the demons also dude your guy who rated r bro dude what the hell i didn't know who half these villains were no i didn't either no one's doing a flavor saver anymore rated Rated R is. Why? So you know Rated R apparently has a... He's like trying to be a wrestler. He used to. Yeah. So he's basically tried to go full Miz, but obviously it worked out really, really well for the Miz.

Yeah. And for Rated R, not so well. Now he's a flair bartender. He looks like a damn good one. He'll make you a great man hat. With a flavor saver. He knows how to turn... With a triangle.

Put some flames on top of some shots. It's a triangle flavor saver, by the way. Dude, that guy's trash. That's the worst facial hair anyone could ever have. Doesn't get worse. I would say a Hitler mustache would be worse. Dave. Okay.

Okay, Hitler. Okay, Dylan. Dave is right. Hitler Stass Triangle Flavor Saver. Dave is right. In that order. What do you think Charlie Chaplin was doing the entire time Hitler was walking around with that thing? He's just like, dude, I got one too.

Like, stop. Why did Michael Jordan do it for a little bit? People forget that. Because MJ can do anything. Even Hitler Stash? He did it. You just don't see that. Yeah, in like a Hanes commercial, right?

I don't know. No one's doing it. Yeah. Like very few people are doing that, if any. Got to say, kind of enjoyed seeing Nick on there. Yeah. That was an entertaining part because he was clearly housed. Where he was, you know, they brought the busload of girls in there and they did the little bit where they sit down with him.

He was absolutely shit-faced. And by the way, are we doing his name different now? I heard Chris say Nick Viall. I don't remember it being so fancy back in the day. I thought it was just Nick Viall. It's Nick Viall. It's not Nick Viall, Chris. That's not your name, Dirt.

Slow down, Chris. Fucking Chris. That's a Joe Dirt reference for all the people out there. That's good. I love Joe Dirt. Have you ever seen Joe Dirt, Dylan? Never saw the second one. Of course I've seen Joe Dirt. Never saw the second out there. That's good. I love Joe Dirt. Have you ever seen Joe Dirt, Dylan? Never saw the second one. Of course I've seen Joe Dirt.

Never saw the second one, though. Probably don't need to. I did. Not good. Don't need to. We're going to ruin it. I mean, if you're replacing Kid Rock with the guy from Sugar Ray. I didn't know there was a second one.

Yeah. It got released on like Crackle or something. Fuck that. Yeah. First one's good. First one's not good it's great they showed a clip and i don't know what season this was but it was a roast of the bachelor at why don't they do that now well probably because it went so poorly yeah this

dude this fucker goes what did he say he said god i came on hoping it was going to be so and so and so and so and now it's her she's so used what does that mean she was like yeah it's not very funny what do you think so used means i'm not really i don't know but if they tell you to prepare a roast are you immediately just like you don't go full jizzle nick okay right maybe you you keep the gloves on uh we we discussed possibly doing a a roast for a monumental oh for a monumental episode of a previous podcast we were on. And I was like, I don't know if this is a good idea. This could tear us apart at the seams. It would have been really entertaining, though.

It would have been entertaining, but I was just worried that one of us was going to get super offended. Yeah. Myself very much included. Of course. I don't need to get roasted by people i would not mind i don't mind getting roasted by people who are not anonymous like if you guys roast me i don't really i pretty much know what you're gonna roast me i don't like being the butt of other people's jokes you're sensitive i don't like it when people take i don't like this just digressed but i don't like when people take self-deprecating humor

and then they they put that in their arsenal it's like that's a joke for me to make and maybe my close friends yeah

you know what I mean see I'm the opposite of you I like it when anonymous people make fun of me because I can just be like oh I've got some anonymous dumbass troll

sitting behind his computer yeah it's more meaningful with an actual name. Yeah, like if I actually know who you are, then I hate you personally. Yeah. And that's when I get more offended.

Hey, another season that I did not watch, but I kind of wish I would have. Wes, okay, the guy from Wes, the country singer from Austin who had a girlfriend and made it to the Final Four. I'm sorry. Yeah, what was up with that? I'm sorry.

How do you do that? What? And he was proud of it. He made it to Fantasy Suites and had a girlfriend. He spiked the football. This was pre-Instagram and stuff, so people couldn't figure this shit out. So she was on board with it, like the whole plan? The girlfriend, I mean?

Yeah, it was just to get the music out there. All right, go get your career off the ground. Well, back then it was probably harder to get your career off the ground. And you know he's making out with her, too. Now he's found Jesus. Good for him. Shouts. Shouts.

Big shouts to Jesus. Big shouts to Jesus, yeah. Real one. What else you got, Dave? Oh, bro. My bro, Kalen. Cali. Basically, he plays golf with his golden doodle.

Oh. Yes. That guy stinks. Forgot about that guy. Oh, no, no, no. Whoa. No, no, no. Whoa.

That guy stinks. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Skip. Skip. No, that guy's tight. That guy stinks. No, he's tight. He's really generic and boring and stuff, but he's definitely a decent option to fill out

your tee time if you only got three. If he's going to bring his doodle out there, let's fucking go. Dude, honestly, he's the reason we're doing this. What? Why? I don't know.

We just saw it. We're like, we should do a fucking pod. This dude's out here. I was kind of hoping that when he was talking about his like Italian love of his life,

it'd be like some like smoking hot chick. It turned out to be a dog, which somehow made me more excited. Bocci? Part of me, I was like, cool, he's got a foreign wife. That's unique.

You know what he's famous for on that show, right? No. He was on Emily's season. She has a son. Dylan, cover your ears. He just straight up was like, yeah, your son's baggage. Yeah.

Dude, and she called him out in front of everybody. He goes, yeah, definitely did say that. And then he held on to it years later. He's like, yeah, I meant it. Doubled down. Dude, that's so fucked up. Doubled down. Hey, he owned his tanks, man.

A lot of people don't do that. Myself included. It's hard to hear as a father. No, I'm okay okay I'm just kidding the homie's not baggage but that guy does suck if the homie was baggage Dave wouldn't be taking him

to CC's every fucking week the homie's a bonus yeah do we have anything else on the uh that's about it I mean all in all

the two hour look it got the name out there reminds everybody that Hannah's coming back next week the whole thing's starting up I will admit I didn't watch it start to finish i was very liberal on the on the fast forward button as you should have been if you if you actually watch the entire

thing then you're just as bad as the people that were riding the the bus that sprinted into the bathroom mansion and like lost their minds those were the lamest people i've ever seen in my entire life did you guys fast forward through that part? No, I watched it. I couldn't believe how excited they were. And I know they were probably

playing it up for the camera, but it was just like, come on. It was way over the top. When they rolled out the Bachelorettes one by one and these girls were in tears. See, I fast forwarded that.

Oh, brother. It was something. I gotta say, from newest to less new, okay, oldest Bachelorettes, they all look really good. One of them is like 10 weeks off a kid. There's a reason they're the Bachelorette. They're the most eligible Bachelorettes in America. I know, but you'd think there'd be one who's just started doing meth or something,

blasting cigs. It's true. Nice. There were a couple that weren't there, weren't there? Probably. I think there were two that weren't there. I must have missed this part. I skipped it.

I skipped through. I skipped it. Yeah, I mean, I don't normally skip any parts of the actual episodes, but if it's a 15-year reunion for a show that I've only seen three seasons of, I don't necessarily need to see every single part of it. The original Bachelorette was on there. Who was that? Great question. Butte was on there who was that great question how she was on how many seasons of the bachelor did they do before they introduced the bachelorette wonderful question the thing is we'll never know wait is that how

is that really so they didn't from the jump do both i don't know i could i could see them not i'm gonna probably facetime chris later i'll ask him. I can FaceTime Colton and ask too. I'll get Jack Stone on the horn. Tight. Oh, Stone doesn't. Stone's so far removed. He's out. The Stone Man. Stone Man's out.

Stone Man's doing content. I think he's got a pretty serious girlfriend. Shout out to the Stone Man. He's going to fashion shows and shit. I still follow him. He's tight. Nice guy. Also got a great doodle.

Yep. What's her name? Addie? Weird that I remember that. That sounds right. Yeah. Tight. Tommy Fleetwood over here.

Just remembering dogs' names years after. No one understands that joke. Nobody, but it's an accurate, good reference. Dude, JoJo's... They did a lot of Rachel Lindsay content. She stinks. Her and Brian. Oh my God.

Did you see when they were picking out a ring together? The wedding bands? There was some cringe that I had to power through, but I did see it. Did you see it, Dylan? They suck. Dude. World's worst couple. World's worst.

The worst couple. They suck. I wish they were on the Scientology boat that got measles. I don't even think they're into it. Oh, you don't wish measles on them? I legit don't think they're even into each other. Like, I really don't. No, I don't think so either.

I think they're getting married because they feel an obligation to. Their 15 minutes will go away once they split up. He has cheek implants, correct? Probably. The ring that he chose for her, I'm sorry if you have one of these rings. I'm sorry if you're sitting at your desk right now and you look down at your ring and it looks like Rachel Lindsay's. It's, like, so trash. Let me tell you this.

Dylan, I'm sorry, man, but nobody talks about it. You grew the exact same beard that Brian has after that season what's up with that what do you mean you have Brian's beard you guys share the exact same

I can't help the pattern that grows on my face just saying no Dylan's looks way better thank you because Dylan doesn't have cheekbones that are protruding past the beard

Brian look Brian sucks dude Brian goes you guys know Brian's tight. No. It was so weird that in this season, she fell in love with him, like love at first sight. Brian? Yeah, she gave him like a million one-on-one dates and everyone else was sitting there like, dude, what?

Except that she was more into Peter and it was very obvious. No, but she definitely, like, she gave him more one-on-one dates than any other contestant I've ever seen. Every single time they went on a date, it was like, Brian. He's a good-looking dude. He stinks. He stinks. Is he from Miami? Yeah.

He's got nothing going for him. And he's also a little bit older, right? Isn't he pushing 40? I don't know. He was significantly older than her. Some people, they questioned whether or not he was actually a doctor. He's a doctor? Well, he was like a...

What is it? Chiropractor. Chiropractor. And people were like, well, I mean, you can't say you're a... You can't just do the blanket term, I'm a doctor. You might be a doctor of some kind of medicine, but you're not a doctor doctor. Doctor of love. I'm surprised he didn't choose like a matte black

like metal ring for his wedding band yeah good call like he definitely like with like some like I don't know

some lyrics inscribed on the inside what song Despacito yeah do you know what Despacito means I don't I think it means like slowly

yeah that's a better way of saying that word slowly what despacito means? I don't. I think it means like slowly. Yeah. That's a better way of saying that word. Slowly or despacito? Despacito. I want you to like, I want like you to ask Alyssa to like help out on like the Traeger one day while you're watching like a stars game. And you're like,

no, no, no, despacito. What are you doing? Turn it down. If you really want me to do that, I'll do it.

Please do it. Please do it. Is that it for today? Yeah, I think we've covered a lot of bases here. Yeah. As we've said, this episode is free, but every other Bachelorette episode for this season will be on our Circling Back Patreon page for $5 a month. We'll have a different tier for it.

We have our normal backer tier, which gets you one listener and voicemail episode every week. This will be a different one. Still $5. Just a whole different ballgame. Very exciting. We're going to be still doing the old bits, man.

We're doing power players. If you're familiar with our old Batchelor content I think you'll be happy with what we do on this. Now that we don't have the constraints of people complaining and the constraints of... People are still going to complain. And we get the recaps, too. I respect it.

Don't forget the recaps. We get Crick's recaps. I mean, we're doing big things. We hope you support us. You know what? I didn't say it. I'm just going to say it. Joey J. from Bethesda, Maryland.

No. You. Dude, no. You are my... There he is. Player of the week. No, no, no. You are my, there he is, player of the week. No, no, no. Well, no one saw that coming.

Nobody did. I didn't until like five seconds ago. Yeah. Look at this fucking guy. I don't want to. I lost my guy. Oh, my guy's Hunter. He's the surfer. I want to catch party waves with Hunter. Admittedly, the Dallas guy. Oh, my guy's Hunter. He's the surfer.

I want to catch party waves with Hunter. Admittedly, the Dallas guy, Connor, it was too predictable. He's like low-key my guy, but I'm riding with Jelly right now. Yeah. I'm Hunter. Ride or die. He's not going to win, but he seems like a good dude. He's the video editor slash surfer?

Yep. That's a tight mix. That's really tight. Shout out to Shadow. Big ups to Shadow. We think about you every day. There's two people who know what that is. This podcast is so stupid.

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Plug yourself. Okay, thank you. At Dshivery on Instagram and Twitter. C-H-E-V-E-R-E-R-E. Four E's. At DcarterRuff on Twitter and Snap. At DCRuff on Instagram. Hey, what up?

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