Circling Back - Clav OD, LIV Golf, & Allbirds | Circling Back 4-15-26

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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Well, hey there. We're back, circling back podcast. Wednesday morning. Welcome. Happy to have you. To everyone who found us through Newsweek, welcome. And to all the Stoley's, of course. Thank you.

I'm Dave. Producing is Randall. backy hi Dave try that again hi Dave yeah what's up man horizontal stripes no shocks look at this guy little golf polo kiss I want to go hit I'm not gonna hit today I gotta go home a model long yeah it's gonna rain we supposed to get rain tonight uh I was planning on biking in today and then I looked and it's supposed to rain from five to seven so exactly when I'd be biking home awesome so I You sure about that? When I looked this morning

You sure about that? When I look this morning What's your weather? What are you looking at? What are you opening up And what are you basing your The weather app? Huh?

The weather app? Dogg, I don't think it's raining today. And then I click into the day and it said that there was a chance from five to seven. I looked at the radar and looked like it was going to be pretty

right around. What was the chance? What was the percentage? I don't know. I'll check. I'll check again. But either way, I was like I've been stuck in the rain biking too many times already.

What's your source, dog? I don't give that away. What do you, what are you hopping on? I do the windy app, not wind horse. Windy. Windy? Yeah. Okay.

It's for, uh, so for all my, my trail runners out there. It's a good, right. I think they have the most, uh, based on what I've seen, the most accurate radar. And acue weather's sneaky kind of trash now. Too many ads pop-ups, things of things. that nature. Okay. I'm not looking at like, oh, a chance of showers today.

I'm looking at the radar. I want to see what the models are saying. I want to see what's the pressure at. You and Brett are the weather heads. Where's the line? Brett's got, Brett's done a good job learning central Texas and just otherwise weather patterns of the south. See, that's what it shows at 530, 6 o'clock when I'd be leaving.

and then so I'd be coming across. So I'd be stuck in that. Figure it out. I kind of hope Parks' practice gets rained out today. Why? You don't think they need it? He has

standardized testing tomorrow. Thanks a lot, George W. Bush. And his practice usually ends at like 9.15. And so we're not home until 940 and then he's got a shower. That is late. He's in bed at 10. and it's just like, it's too late, man. Well, what's more important?

I don't know. I like to see him do well at school. You know? Those words of wisdom brought to you by Dylan Schivry. We have a loaded freaking show today. It's freaking loaded. It's 40% old. It's 40% of it.

We have so much going on, man. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. Are you going to go out of your way to be more muted? Things were just putting interjecting. No, dude. Because you're embarrassed because you got so excited about that deal.

I feel like the people thrive off my excitement or something. No, dude. Good show today. Good show, dude. Just wait, dude. Oh, interesting. I don't even know this clip is that you set me, Dave, for later in the show. I thought it was about him frame-mogging from many miles away.

Have you seen that one? No. It was another clip from the 60 Minutes interview that he did. You know why he's on the rundown, right? No. Well, I see now what you just sent me. Okay. Before you make light.

Yeah, it's kind of a serious situation. Yeah, dude. This is not great. No. Certainly not. Well, we'll wait. That AC's blowing cold, man. That's what I said when I walked in.

I'm not going to be a baby about it like somebody. I don't want to get all wet on my ride home. Randy likes it. really warm Brett likes it frigid. I'm team. You gotta find a happy media. I'm team frigid. I'm not, dude.

I like it cool, but not like he likes it. He likes a meat locker status in here. That is true, yeah. You know, Meat Locker? I used to call you that back in college, if I recall. Well, you're one letter off. Mead locker? You used to drink a lot of mead?

Yep. No, I just, I had a bunch of paper. I was stacking paper, mead, paper. People remember Mead school. Yeah. Who makes trapper keepers? Correct.

Yeah. More of that. And other things. If you didn't have a trapper keeper, you like, you weren't, I just wouldn't talk to you. You're the type of dude

who just like would put papers in his backpack and zip it up. You are. It's funny you say that. Every now and then, parks will come home with a loose paper in his backpack, and I always tell them

that unsuccessful people have loose papers. They started with loose papers. They started with loose papers in their backpacks. You gotta be, it's like basic organization. Here's, here's, Dylan. Here was you in sixth grade. You'd be like, somebody called you out for not having a folder or a binder or anything.

You'd be like, I don't need it. I just put them in there. They're not wrinkled. They're not wrinkled. They're fine. I was ever like a super organized kids. And you take them out. You see kids that like color-coded everything and then their binders, whatever.

That wasn't me, but I did have stuff in folders and in binders. There was nothing worse. Okay, there are some things worse. but then having to get a three a three ring binder and then like getting your papers and stuff and having to punch holes do the plate. Oh, I hated that shit. It was like, why am I doing this? I just feels like your job. I hated that shit. And those rings like after like three months. They snap shut on your finger. After like three months I've used to like didn't line up correctly. They were like that. They're off. You try to bend them back and it never bent back perfectly.

No, some of those binders when you snapped them shut. Oh yeah. You had like a stray finger. get you same of my punk rock man uh then it would it would hurt you i go through park's backpack every now and then i'll pull out just a wadded up piece of paper and i said what's going on here he goes i know i know successful people i was like that's right and then he'll put it in his folder who added the od part to the clav um i did the reason that i did is because i like to cop when i fill out the description for the episode it likes to just copy the whole line and then put it in so it kind of gives you is that your method

you do the whole line and put it in I'm all right 40% off 40% off it's a good fucking deal is that Lola yeah

it is a good deal I mean you're saving like you're right over a hundred bucks I know you really are it's a great blanket it's been the deal been the deal

I'm just trying to get people pop for it's like a guy coming out of his coma you know oh you get people I want to hear from someone if my enthusiasm led you to the website and then to a purchase of that product i would like to hear from you and i want to hear from you if you had a lola blanket and then you heard how

embarrassing it was that dillon only had one and that dave had two that you went to go get a second one did i mean you have on you i mean do you have dog i have one okay it's dope but i'm not the one get it all excited you guys should move in together i don't think so man and chel's i don't think so then you guys can fuck with me because right Right now you're not fucking with me. I don't, that's not how it's not, you can't even fuck with me. I'd rather just buy another Lola than have Randy move in. Okay, dude, I'm trying to, I'm trying to save you money.

Yeah. Will has two. He can contribute to rent. It would save money, yeah. It's actually a good idea. Well, I might have three. But then Rani's just hanging around all the time. You go home and him and Chels are building like a pillow fort.

Some kind of, of our two Lola blankets. He's got a project. He's like, hey, I'm going to need this room from my projects and I'm working on. It's going to smell like. meat and something, I don't know, something. He's probably stinky, I don't know. You crushed that one, man. I am, I am insulted right now.

Smelly, Randy. No, he doesn't smell. You know he smell crazy. He doesn't smell. I do smell with my nose, Dave. Uh, uh, we're not, we're not doing. I do smell with my nose, David. That's bad.

That's some great school. humor right there. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to pretend none of this has happened. We did exactly five minutes yesterday. It was a great episode. Dude, it was. Some great prompts. I love a good prompt.

I do too. What was one of the highlights? I was actually about to ask what Dylan's fave was. Pretend this is coming out of the Kim Kardashian speaker. What was Dylan's fave? I'm trying to remember what we talked about. I tried to hard post that on Instagram and it was getting no traction. Like 15 minutes in three likes one of which is me

So Algo just did not like that by the way hard posted that It's Dylan faves not Dylan's faves Please if you're gonna If you're gonna use my shit get it correct That's pretty embarrassing Dave that you didn't get it correct Dylan faves that's what it's called dude I didn't know that I've said it I know maybe listen you haven't said it years

Listen to your friend do you still listen to that Rennie did a whole do you know it segment on from Dylan faves I did you have did you know it was Dylan faves Still in faves. You didn't know that. I knew that. He's been in there. He's been up in the faves.

Sorry, I guess I don't... He poked around. I don't, uh, I don't earmark every, uh, ass playlist. Dude, it's a good playlist. It's just nothing but bangers. What was the highlight of the show yesterday? You're the producer and the Oracle of the pod, the maister of Washington Media. I don't know.

It was kind of good. I guess. It was fine. We're trying to sell subscriptions, dog. Wow, dude. What are you talking about exactly five minutes or yesterday's episode? exactly five oh exactly five yeah welcome to the show kid i was too busy to think about dylan faves and how embarrassing it was that you got that wrong uh dylan fay oh there was one that i really liked

oh yeah shrek is love okay that was actually that was the worst one as a guy i should have looked that up before i can put it on there it was good trust me despite what just happened the last 45 seconds it was great listener voice mills records today 8888 8 8 8 8 618-48-44-22. I've got most of the voicemails already, and they all are very, very good. What were you going to say there, guys? I was going to say, it's dating app week

in two weeks. Message Dave. Explain that to someone who might think that I'm like now on the dating apps or something. So at the end of the month, we always do a themed episode on the Tuesday, last Tuesday month, and this month's theme is dating app week.

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Maybe you breadcrumb people. We want to hear from you. You know, why do you do it? What do you get out of it? Breadcrumbs. Breadcrumming, what are you, the bottom of my toaster? Never tipped that thing over. It's a war zone down there, man.

What's going on? What happened down here? Yeah. Those little crumbs have been, they've been toasted like 20 times over. Yeah. At some point, you got to just tip that thing over

and clean it out. How often do you need to replace your toaster? I feel like I've had the same toaster for a decade. I don't have a toaster anymore. I'm using my tovalla for toast. It's great. I'm using my air fryer. It's a lot of real estate for a toaster.

We don't have it. We don't have like a toaster, we just use that. Yeah, toasters are so outdated now, Dave. Use your air fryer. Grow up, dude. I think most people are using.

a traditional toaster. God. Dude, what, you know what the air fryer doesn't do? It doesn't shoot the toast into my hand as I skateboard

by before I go to school. That's true. That's, that you got. Does your Tava do that? No offense, Tavala, but I know it doesn't do

shoot it out. Well, it's a smart oven. It probably could. If a shoe can become AI, that's a tease for later. It's a good tease.

Man, my all bird stonk is going crazy right now. Can you save it? It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like three down the run.

Dude, a hot air balloon carrying 21 people crashes in southern Brazil. It's like a big fireball. This is sad. Hopefully this is AI or some shit. Jesus, that's awful. Okay. There's a video. Yeah?

I'm just saying, like, that's... You were talking how safe they were recently. You just said that it could be AI. What's the source? It could not be AI. Who's tweeting it? Wild videos on Twitter. Okay, I'm not giving that.

All right. I don't know if I was... Is this like currently, or is this like currently, an old video. I don't know. You're just getting it. So now you're just going to, so now you're just saying it says breaking. So this is what Dylan does during the show. He goes through his timeline. It says breaking. He's like a golden retriever with a damn ball. I just hope those people are okay and they're judging by this video. They're absolutely not okay. Yeah, probably not. If it's a, if it fell out of the sky and it's on fire. How do you feel about your high air balloon take now?

It's still pretty good. You know, how many, how do air balloons fly a day and like, no idea. I bet it's not that many. It's a ton. I bet you, I bet you the average is under a hundred the hot air balloon rides a day. A bullshit. Bullshit. Oh, yeah, right. That is low, dude. In the world?

That is low. Dude, I bet it's not that crazy. In the world? Yeah. No. No, in Austin. Yeah, the world. I mean, if you're hot air balloon,

you're not taking it out like every week. Yeah, but there's probably some places that like they do like five a day. You go, it's like a tourist trip. So you go up and you can look at the canyon or whatever the fuck's nearby. I bet, I bet you can't even look that up. Like, yeah. I bet it's, I bet it's four. digits. Hot air balloon accidents are extremely rare, averaging far less than one per day, but as far as

how many flights, let's see. You can't look at all. Not really a flight, more of a float. Anytime you see one, you're like, oh my God, there's a hot air balloon because you just don't see them. There's a lot of things you don't see that happen daily, frequently. Yeah, like me texting your girl. I do see that. Oh, very odd. Sorry. He came finding, dude. It's a hard thing to find out. Yeah, that information isn't readily tracked. FAA might have stats on that for the U.S. Americans. Okay, I'll say, according to the 2012 FAA data,

there were approximately 495 commercial sightseeing right operations in the U.S. Sighting is what's going to get you. Not Joyriders. Yeah, but like Monday through Thursday, they're not booking any rides, man. It's a weekend play. Dillam, man, I think you're one. I think you guys. But I'll be honest, of things to be way off about, hot air balloons like it's fine.

Like, it's not going to, like, affect your life that much. What did I say? Did I say 200? You said less than 100. You said less than 100. It was worse than what you thought. So. I'm going to amend it to 200.

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There comes a hot step up. Hot steper. What rump shaker? Rump shaker. What's rump shaker? Shake your tail feather. There's something with a lump shaker. You want a little update here, Dave? While no single global entity tracks, the precise total, millions of hot air balloon rides happen occur annually.

Millions. Annually. Okay, there's no official checker. I'm not, that's bullshit. There's no way. Someone in the chat. The math is not mathing.

I like this one from a like 20 take off every decent weather evening near my parents. Dorn hates facts. Okay. How many hot air balloons are? Wait, where his parents live? How many hot air balloons are like in circulation right now? Oh, that one I can tell you because I did just see that. Oh, let's get.

Let me guess first. This is so pointless. Does it matter? At least in the US. 2,500 in the world. What do you mean in circulation? That are going, that are like in the air right? That are in operate.

Yeah, that are like ready to rip right now. You know? Wait, so not even airborne? Right, right, right. Just like available to go. Are you just saying registered? Because I can tell you how many are registered in the U.S. I'll let you continue guessing, but I do have the number of how many in the US.

I think we're grossly underestimating hot air balloon. I think you're confusing like there's like. I think you're the one full hot air. There's eight blimps in the world. No, yeah. The blimp number. is crazy low. But they're like two.

But yeah, hot air balloons. There's still a lot. Do you want to take a guess, Dave? There's got me more than two. In the U.S. Dude, blimps are, it's like single digits.

Yeah, blimps is like eight. Registered hot air balloons? In the U.S. He said 2,500 in the world. I was going to say, I was going to say like 6,500. In the U.S.? Yeah.

According to this, 3,000 registered. Okay, I was overshot. In 495 commercial operators. So, but yeah, 3,000 in the U.S. alone. Because I know my, like, my girlfriend went on, one in Egypt. And that's a big part of the- Yeah, I'm sure you're never getting in a hot air balloon. I'll do.

Never. And the Albuquerque one, someone pointed out, and my brother used to live there. Like the hot air balloon fest in Albuquerque is crazy, just seeing all them out there. I would love to go see that in person, but probably never will. Okay. She's probably only like a 12-hour drive.

Yeah, but I would have gone when he lived there. But it is cool seeing the photos. Go see the Walter White. house um-huh throw go through somebody bought it yeah or something the person who used to live there was very ordinary yeah people would stop by and they would chase him all i get it i threw a pizza on their roof did you no i cooked meth in their backyard i never cooked at his own house did he no i think he ever did he did cook at other people's houses though he did cook at other people's That was a smart play by him.

The fumigation. Don't bring your work home with you, man. That's right. That's why I never pot at home. Fumigation. We have a potting at home. That's good. That's really good, Randy.

Yeah, you're right. We're bearing the lead here. News dropped last night. Hold on. Pardon me. News started to drop last night. circling that clavicular clavs suffered a medical issue on his live stream began to come out he might have OD overdosed on the live stream and some fake news out there turns out he did overdose and he

is all he did make it a friend of the show who was in a text with about this jake camp had to great had said something that totally is true with me. There was a long time where when I read the word overdose, I assume death. Like back, you know, back in the day, like you know, back in the day, like you yeah, I mean, I did too. Overdose, like I almost always, my mind goes, oh, he OD'd. Because most stories of ODing or that you heard like when you're younger or it's like a tragedy. Like all ODing is like, OD is obviously all bad. But like you always heard worst case stories. I agree with it. I just always assumed. So anyway. But. But he is alive and he has tweeted.

Anyway, if you want to play, this would be a tough way to go next to the guy who got called out for wearing a wig. That's him. Why does he just keep wearing the wig around? I guess you have to live his thing now. So they just go live from clubs and just like do drugs? Apparently, Clive is live like all day, every day.

Do you know what he took? Who's this guy? Who's this chat on the left? I don't know. He also has a wig on. How do you feel? That does look like a wig. You're right.

So they zoom the camera in on the other two and like they don't know what to do. There's clear concern on androgenic's androgenic, his face. What a stupid sentence. While the other guys rips of babe and coughs. When did you last thing blue? What do you say? I don't know. You want to know?

When you last do something? he just asked him if he wants an addie that's right he did ask if he wanted more drugs which is not wait so that was that's a five-hour energy heat is pounded that was it that was it there's a video that i'm carrying him out yeah there's a video he's like he's like limp being carried out which i don't really we don't need to see it's fine got you i thought he was like straight up like was going a cardiac arrest or something yeah i did too when i when i watched the footage and i was like first of all why am i watching this but also i guess i'm going to watch this I expected like full-on Joffrey.

Yeah, like he was like, like, he was like, like, he was like, like, farting at the mouth and stuff. Yeah, you got to hit him with the pen. But, uh, not the, not like a vape pen, but like the epipen. Um, or whatever it is. Anyway, um, you know, as we get into this, I'm like, man,

what have we become where we just let off with this? Yeah. But was, well, he's, he's, he's everywhere, man. He's everywhere. made your top of conversation did you watch your 60 minutes interview i did yeah i was fucking nuts he was walking through new york there's a video i actually sent it to will last night he's walking through new york he's got security with him and um these two guys walk past him and say oh what's up clav big fan and they're like they're like older guys like probably millennial millennial plus guys is that what we are

millennial we're just we're squarely millennial anyway um he was surprised at these older guys knew who he was. And as he's walking away, he goes, we're demographic maxing. Well, if you're, if you're wondering, since we have to always check in when we talk about clav, clav is now number one on the official Chad rankings. All it took was an OD. I guess so. He has gone up and Androgynick has moved down to four. Is that Zeta, the guy that was in there? I don't know. That might have been Cookie King. I'm not sure. A very bad sentence to know. I have enjoyed clavicular. They're saying GHB potentially. What is that? Like GHB, known as the, as a drug you would give someone if you were trying to take advantage of them back in the day.

But it is a drug if you take it in low doses. I was at one party where someone was said to be having a GHB in high school. And I remember being like, why would you take that? And I don't know. I don't even know about these new drugs, man. Like I was saying, I've been enjoying clavicular. I think he, you know, I think he's probably, he's got some problems, you know, but he's funny. The dude's funny.

He said, just got home. That was brutal. All of the substances are just a cope trying to feel neurotypical while being in public. But obviously this isn't a real solution. The worst part of tonight was my face descending from the life support mask. And there's a photo. his face is all scratched up in this photo anyway I don't really know how that happened

he needs to chill out with the drugs he takes meth just to look thin that's not that's not that's not a long term is he taking like actual meth or is he taking like adderil he says meth is he taking some of the blue stuff because he had a conversation with that model and he was like oh what do you guys just do like

adderol cocaine to stay thin and she was like no he goes well i'd i take meth to to control my appetite. It's not good, man. It's not good, but you know what? It makes it, the hard thing about it is how good he is. Like, he's so good at this character. That's the problem. Yes. And the way he describes things, neurotypical. Like, no one uses neurotypical in conversation. No, they don't. Well, but he's demographic. I think maybe people in the science community might, but not us. Right. Good for him. Not, I mean,

not good for him he just sounds bad uh but uh but he just he's so serious about it all too i feel like he could achieve what he's looking to achieve just by like working out more eating really well and then maybe getting on like a g lp1 like if he's really trying to curb appetite and that's it and just leave out the other stuff but don't do the drugs yeah stop stop doing let's start with let's cut math out of out of the equation here let's start there you know it's just not good go ahead clip that

hypothetical intern yeah it's funny that's not funny I'm just being like just stop doing math y'all yeah don't do math he's also I mean like he's on testosterone

he's on a lot of shit peptides he's on the tides he's doing pep I wonder if he's on the Wolverine stack I still don't really know what a pet is this guy doesn't know

peptide is. It's crazy. I don't. Then he's doing trend? Maybe D-Ball. Isn't that one? I'm talking steroids here. Yeah.

Do you know what I said? Are you just saying that? You said two words that I don't know the meaning of and then you said steroids. Yeah. I know. I'm following. Fucking. I mean, it's accurate.

That's such a meathead moment. Steroids? Yeah. I know it's steroids. I don't know what the other shit. I don't know about. this new age. Those are old school like bodybuilder.

I don't know about, is it trend with an N? Or trim. I think it's just T-R-E-N. Because you were talking about getting some trim. Yeah, which I don't know, are you taking the boat out or what?

No. Something different. Okay. I just know like anabolic steroid because I'm, you know. Yeah, I would tell it.

If Clav is taking those, then he definitely does not deserve to be in the baseball Hall of Fame. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point from Randy. Thank you. That's an old guy take that I do have, by the way.

Like, I don't think Barry Bonds belongs in the whole thing. Yeah, we know. You have the shittiest taste? Do you think that Barry Bonds should have been able to have walk-up music when he was in Little League, though? Yes, I do. Okay. Yes, I do.

I appreciate Barry Bonds, and he's the best hitter we've ever seen, like he is. But he got there with steroids, which is squarely against the rules. All those positive things. tests? Okay. Why are you just a hunch? Why is he not on the ballot? I don't know. You tell me. Because it's steroids. Because he's the greatest hitter of all time. So he's not on the, he's not in because of all those positive tests that prove definitively that he was on steroids. I mean, like, was your head always that big? So his head got huge. Happened to you. Could happen to him. Okay. It's possible that Barry Bonds did not taste. Having to Barry Bonds.

Good. Happy to you? What's going on? Mark McGuire. steroids not a hall of famer yeah i think i the hall the hall debate that comes up every five months on this show for some reason no i agree i i don't actually know i don't agree i can put them in the hall okay most i mean like yeah i think most people agree with you and that's fine i don't really care they do it's okay no your take isn't preposterous no a lot of people have your take but most of those guys are about 85 and retiring from the newspaper paper biz, but it's fine. That doesn't mean anything. You're an old soul.

If I was a big league ball player in the mid to late 90s, like, I would have taken steroids. And most did, I believe. Because you I think you could say that most, I bet at least half. You're leaving money, you know, on the table if you don't. Like you are. You know what you're leaving on the table? Ribs, ribbies.

Ribs. RBI. Dingers? RBI. RBI's. No, man. It's RBI. I'm an RBI's guy. I'm RBI's guy. I'll always be. Real seam heads or RBSs guys. You were here. I think you were gone, but I said how I, maybe he was.

You and Brett were talking about it. I accidentally, I was listening to a trying to find a Ranger game on the MLB app for the radio broadcast. I popped in like a Cardinals game or something on accident. And the guy was calling him, was it RBs or ribs. Ribbies? No, he didn't even say ribbies. It was either RBs or ribs. I was like, whatever this.

I was like, I wish we didn't do that. We're not doing ribs. We're not doing Rubs. Ribbies or RBIs? Are you sure the greatest hitter of all time? Are you sure it's not Michael Young? Lisa, I'm acknowledging that he is the greatest hitter of all time. I know, and I feel like that acknowledgement should be enshrining.

Hoopa's Town. Yeah, I don't know. You know, it's fine to have that take. I'm not going to fight you. Good. Someone in the chat asked, you think Barry Bonds ever wrote in a hot air balloon? Wrote his head? There's no way.

I bet he has This stupid podcast I love it I bet he has I bet he has I think so That was the guy That said his parents

It was Philly Is where the lake Right outside of Philly Hot Air Blues Apparently going off in Philly Oh Why No offense to Philly

I don't know You were just there You tell me You're the big Philly guy Yeah dude My parents live on the main line In Philly You live on the main line

Yeah we're going to take the hot air balloon you know yeah yeah it's fine i get it dude it's fun ever been to philly me and the boat's gonna crush a couple natties in the hot air balloon no we went up there doing the hot air balloon we actually used the uh balloon as like uh we brought some uh brought some cannabis this stuff from cali it's actually this indo kush it's uh it's really good but uh we got it and uh yeah we like use the uh balloon part as like a bomb actually it's so twisted we take the hot air balloon up it would go dove hunting and they're like right at eye level so that like it's yeah they totally fly that high it's sick dude now we actually no my my my my we brought a hot air

balloon out to my pledge brother's ranch he's got a place out near like fredericksburg it's uh it's uh it's a 7500 acres anyway yeah we went hog hunting oh yeah yeah they got a real problem out there the feral hogs they just tear up the lawn but we went out there we just went out there with the ar-15s yeah and uh we actually hooked up like uh r pgs i had a r pgg oh jesus so no their hog problem is real it's like fuck Not the lawn. No, Dylan. You should totally call my dad.

Just got a new robot. And like, it gets like the hogs to come right out at us. And we just... It flushes them? Yeah. Flushes the topic. We accidentally... So, like, one of the, uh, one of the RPGs, it, uh, it flushed a covey of quail.

It flushed the covee of quail. And it, like, wasn't even bright bird season. But I blasted them. That's sick. Yeah, dude. I decimated the population. That's fucking sick. You suck.

And you don't want to go into hot air balloon. Look at, we just... How about that? Everything that we just laid out for you. Someone has hunted hog from a hot air balloon. That's absolutely happened. And it happened probably within a 50-mile radius of where we're sitting right now.

So you can't really control where it goes, right? Yeah. You can control up and down, but you can't control. Like, you just, you got to win. Yeah, there has to stop. Yeah. Stop talking about hot air balloon.

I'm pretty sure. The thing is, you don't fuck you would be if you go. The thing is, you don't have. If you go off course, you just, you just drop down and reset. Yeah, that's, but I feel like there has to be some kind of... I'm sure the... Because they have the weights, the bags.

Yeah, but I brought the bag up. Come on. I brought the bag. The bags are for steering? Well, they're for something else tall. Huh. I think, right? The bags have to...

They can steer it. How do you... Look up, Rainy. How to steer a hot air balloon? That guy went around the world in a hot air balloon. I'm sure. How do you steer a hot air balloon? Yes, you can steer a hot air balloon.

But not like a car or airplane, Obviously. Pilots navigate by changing altitude to catch different wind directions at varying heights. Okay. Acting more like a weatherman who works with the wind rather than against it. And going up or down, you can find air currents that move. Shout out Bob Seeger. In desired locations.

So I think you might have taken the dub on that. Yeah. I think you might have taken a sneaky dove. I don't really know. I'll take a sneaky dove. Maybe we'll give it to you need it. Yeah. Thanks, man. Yeah, we brought, dude, it was tough.

If we went up, we took a bag up there and like, dude, Tanner dropped the bag. And so we went away to go all the way back down to get it. And it ended up costing us because of like the price of the fuel. Do you find the bag though? No, we never found it, but we went down and looked for it. But it ended up costing like an extra 10K just to go down and look for it. That's an L you just got to take, man. I know, but it didn't matter.

It wasn't my money anyway. That's sick. I'll tell you what's sick. This aura frame sitting next to us. What a great gift. Look at the boys in Chicago. There's not a better gift. What a great photo.

We look terrible without facial hair. We look bad without facial hair. Look at that squad. We're trash. Will looks great. Will's trash too, man. He's got like scruff. He's got something though.

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I'm only saying, I'm sending your pictures of the ones that Brett took of me earlier today for a potential ad deal. He's got to love those, dude. Let's talk live, please. If those pictures are part of the deal,

we're up and we need to up our asking price. I'm going to be 100% honest. Oh, yeah. If that shit's getting posted, we're asking for more money. I think those pictures were just like to... To prove that we're losing our hair? Yeah, to get us in the door. I think we're in control of our own, like, what we post. It's a tease. We're vague podcasting right now. I'm continuing to monitor Twitter for the pending fold of live golf.

stuff trickled out last night about live going away you kind of wondered how the ongoing unrest in the Middle East would affect live as it is a Saudi entity you know I hadn't thought of it yeah because you were thinking about the other stuff the war yeah you're like you weren't thinking about golf

I just want our boys to come home safely boys and girls to come home safely that's all that's the main thing Dave are men and women overseas and our uniform Not our uniform, but the countries. They're not in podcasting uniforms. Can I say that it warms my heart? They're not wearing Randy's party gecko shirt or whatever the hell it is.

Can I say that it warms my heart that Liv is likely folding? Not Live Langdon, to be clear, live golf. She's doing great from what we know. Yes, boyfriend. That's true. Yeah. She's thriving. I would love it if Live or to just go bye-bye.

I hate that league so much. Why? for many reasons the the sally money is a big part of it another part of it is that it has watered down pGA events we've we've got guys on leaderboards that otherwise wouldn't be there is this why sergio was so mad maybe his paycheck's his paycheck dried up so what hat what how okay theoretically it it closes it it closes up shop here i'm going to give you uh this is per uh our friends at underdog golf underdog Sure. Live golf updates the last 13 hours.

There's a, okay, a bombshell announcement is teased on Liv's future imminent per Monday, oh, Monday Q info, Monday qualifying info is an account that apparently has reputable sources. Then Live executive summoned to an emergency summit amid speculation over the announcement. Players preparing as if Live Mexico City will go on a schedule and then live executives has arrived in Mexico City and sources are indicating business as usual ahead of the events. You had Alan Shipnuck, noted Golf Journal, saying that he heard from a very dialed-in player that Liv is it going to attempt to pull that old force majeure clause in the contract

to get out of whatever, get out of anything. Money owed. Just current agreements with players. sponsors, things of that nature. The tens of people who attend those events are going to be disappointed. There's more than tens. Dozens, maybe. The hundreds of people who watch them on YouTube are going to be disappointed.

That is fair. It's not on YouTube anymore. Or maybe it is, but I know they've got, on the CW. It's on the CW. You don't watch the CW? The hundreds of people who watch the CW have you disappointed.

No one gives a shit about that league. No one cares. They do some good events, but... But they play loud music. Is that it? They can wear shorts. Oh, excuse me, that was bad. So I did recently switch to four rounds, right?

Are they going to? I don't know why you asking me. Why am I looking at Randy? I don't know why I ever look at Randy. He's over there just smirking at the chat. They're funny. They are funny. No, I did tune in.

There was a, before the Mac, five or six weeks ago, there was a, was it Australian event? I don't remember. It was Rahm and Bryson in a playoff. I tuned in. okay Bryson hit an insane three wood from a muddy lie

and won the playoff and that was cool and that was the most live I'd ever really watched I haven't watched a second but yeah there are some good activations they do but

all in all and as like on a big level like no I don't like live that being said the question to ask would be what does this mean for the guys that are still on there

What does this mean for John Rom and Sergio and the many, many other golfers? Are they going to get paid out? These guys were promised big deals. They put their career. I mean, you know, they didn't realize it, but they, a lot of those guys put their careers or, you know, set them back. John Rom, where was he at the Masters? Not good. Bryson didn't make the cut.

The only live guy who played well at the Masters was Pat Reed. he's not on live anymore. I think he's still, he's on his way out, but he's still, I think he's still. He's done. Really? He's just doing DP. But he was on live,

but your point is still valid. Like he was on live, like, do you think, do you think there's something to that? Like, like, why do they struggle so much? Well, yeah, Bryson won, Bryson won a U.S. Open,

Will Stone Live. Yeah. Brooks, did Brooks win, PGA? Brooks won a PGA, I believe. Really? Wow. I thought that was... Chat, let me know since Randy's just going to...

I thought that was before Liv. Fart over there. I'm not going to just fart over here. That's what you do, dude, stinky. Anyway, but what's important is, yeah, I do think there's something to it. Just being in the grind of whatever, going week to week and playing a normal full-round thing in theory, they seem to be... It has affected John.

It has affected the top-tier player of John. John Rom was former number one in the world, I believe, had to be. He was playing really well on Liv leading up to the Masters. Yeah, I can say that runner up and finish. But, like, he's been kind of a no-show. So I don't know. I don't know what that means for these guys. So what does this mean for those guys in regards to the PGA?

If Liv were to go completely, like, kaput, would they still have to do, like, a buffer year or two before they can join this PGA? To my knowledge, the only thing the PGA has done is create a path for entryway for their top players. Like they did, basically what they did to get Brooks back. They're like, okay, well, if we're trying to get, we'll give a, we'll give away for the Bryson, Rom, Brooks. Who's the other? But like DJ? Like, and Anthony Kim is just going to be toast at this point, right?

Probably. He's not going to have a league to play in. Probably. Yeah. I mean, he'll probably get some, he'll get sponsors exemptions, maybe. Sergio will show up at the Masters once a year because he won. So he'll get either the lifetime exemption. But he's not, I mean, he's, he's not going to be competitive.

He'll go play, he'll go play DP, as I think most of these guys will. But there's going to have to be, there will be a path and some humiliation ritual for these guys. But, yeah, I don't know. I kind of, I don't really feel bad. I do, I will say, I feel bad for the guys who like the kid from. Arizona State. Dude, Brooks got out at the perfect time. The college kids, the kids who, the young guys on tour who are like,

this is my best way to have a career in golf where I go do this, and they're offering me all this money up front in theory, versus the guys who jump ship to get a massive bag. I don't feel bad for them at all. But I know. And like philosophically, I disagree with a number of the things that lives is associated with. But like, if you're a kid, right, college, or somebody maybe who was struck, struggling on tour who had injuries and you had a chance to go get paid, feed your family.

Like, sure. Cam Smith. That's an interesting one. Dude, since he joined Liv, I like, I don't hear his name anymore. A great example of a guy who's just happy to get the bag and just playing mediocre golf. That's what it feels like. He feels like these guys have gotten the bag and they're like, well, no one's watching me play. You remember how fun Cam Smith was?

I'm making so much money. No one's watching me play. So if I don't play well in this tournament, who gives a shit? And they, like, the care level has gone down with these guys. Kim Smith was like a super fun Australian. Dude, he was like just, ratty looking mullet, loved it. On fire. Nasty little short game.

Just scrappy guy. Now he's like, oh, Kim Smith. Oh, look, he's top 20. Oh, no, he's back down. It's like, he's just not doing anything. Oh, he's a good fit for a dry fast Augusta. Oh, and he's gone. He's gone.

Yeah. I don't know. The chat, good, good stuff, Randy. Is the chat saying anything? Someone said live golf KJ would like a word. Was KJ into live golf? Was that a bit he was doing? I don't think KJ is much of the L.

KJ is a TGL guy, but I don't think he's much of a live guy. Is he in the chat? No. We need Thursday tomorrow. We can have them on. Also, I was thinking because I had someone DM me about a future segment we could do. I'll talk to you guys off pod. But we need to talk about maybe doing our starter packs and anti-starter packs

that we had discussed on voicemails. Oh, hell. Yeah. Maybe we'll do that. What's today? Wednesday? Maybe we could start next week.

Put it on there for a... All right. I have it on the... Or tomorrow. The bottom of this thing, I thought. Yeah. I just added something on there. So I think we're going to be doing

starter packs and anti-starter packs sometime in these next couple episodes. Continue to monitor. Let's see. The shouts to live golf. No, no shouts to live golf. Shows to live golf. And it seems to me, you live your life like a hot air balloon in the wind.

That's how they steer. Altitude. I know one thing about my starter pack. To COVID's will be a major part of that. Oh, yeah. I wore my boots yesterday. I was wearing my boots around Philly. I was booted up.

Oh, you were the boot guy in Philly. I was. They were looking at me. They're like, Lord of mercy, David's got his boots on. You brought a little Texas with you. Yeah. They're like, he's from Texas. I can tell.

That song is everywhere right now. Well, it is not. Anyway, to COVID. My toes are, I was in Philly. My toes are pointed west. Mine stayed pointed west, dog. One of us is lying right now because ours are. West is that way.

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C-Cypher details. Ticovus point your toes west. Allbirds. What's going on? We reported on the demise of allbirds a couple weeks ago. Allbirds at one point was valued at $4 billion. What was their market cap? $4 billion.

That was their cop? Allbirds recently sold for $39 million, which is less than 1% of its peak value. More like their beak value. Allbirds. So it begs the question, which is a phrase I hate, it begs the question. It begs the question. Did circling back kill allbirds? Doubt it.

Dude, I think... Market forces were at play, probably force majeure. I think we killed all birds. We trashed him for way too long. Yeah, we actually... That wouldn't shock me because we were out of my buddy's ranch. We went bird hunting. And like, we brought, like, my cousin's, uh, poet's brother came out and he was wearing

all birds and we were like, oh, what I do it? Dude, at one point, it seemed like... His name was Donnell. It seemed like Austin, Texas was like ground zero for Albers. It gives tech. It's like every real estate and tech bro in Austin between the ages of 28 and 35 had Albers. I would say the Silicon Valley, Silicon Valley, then Austin, that people in that world were big,

allbirds people. I still maintain that there's some of the ugly issues ever, ever invented. And that for some reason they just rose to popularity like crazy. They're so, they're absolute trash. Anyway, can you buy it anymore? We've been on that hill for a long time. So they sold that when they sold, they sold all the assets, all the shoes, all the manufacturing assets that they had. Like the shoe part of it is, is that closing up?

Can you still, they're pivoting. That's the headline here. They're liquidating. They're liquidating. But like in three years, can I buy them brand new anywhere? They're going to be worth a lot. That pair you bought in secret until Will and I roast. So they're not.

You can, you might be able to sell. They're not going to be worth shit, man. So they're now new bird AI. What? AI. That's something I've heard about on this pod and on the news. Is that changing everything?

It's changing everything. It is. It's changing all birds. They've just pivoted. They're like, you know what? We're going to be an AI company. Hey,

we're beverageing AI here at the office. As of two hours ago, it's very true. But what did you say it again? Try it again. I did you want to go. Hey, we're beverageing AI here at the office.

Because we're highly beverageed right now. We're drink maxing. Stock was up 450% today. It's got to be the biggest pivot. I don't even know. What is the, what are they doing? AI is a very like,

I don't you understand? A lot. It seems like, it seems like lately you just had your head up your ass. You don't get AI. I understand AI. Claude was down this morning. Down for what?

I don't know. They were just experiencing issues. Dude, it was clawed down to get a bog. Dude, how yeah. So, Randy, they are. Cloud base says. They have raised $50 million to pivot its business to AI compute infrastructure. Allbirds now has a long-term vision to become a fully integrated GPU as a service and AI-native cloud solutions provider, obviously.

It's funny, man. it's funny. I was just having this conversation with somebody that they need to acquire high performance, low latency, AI, compute hardware to provide access under long-term lease arrangements meeting customer demand that spot markets and hyperscalers that are unable to reliably service. Okay, so they're just getting into data center manufacturing. Is that pretty much what this is? Yes. Okay. Is that what that sounds like? That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, that's. But I feel like that costs a lot more than $50 million. They're trying to build data centers which take up a lot of water.

Yeah, if they're data centers are the biggest thing right now. If they're talking about hardware, I'm assuming they're trying to get into the data center space. It's a good guess. You sound smart. I don't know if that's accurate, but you sound smart. Okay. That's interesting. That's an interesting pivot.

Didn't see it coming. Yeah, dude. Call me E because they're going to Jeremy pivot. It's me pivot. That's good. Pivot foot. Yeah. This is a, this is a, for me.

going from a shoe company to a. This is like a storyline in Silicon Valley. Like Gavin, what was his name? Newsom. No, no, Gavin Newsom's the, though. I'm just kidding. What is the Mark Cuban guy? He's not Mark Cuban, but he was kind of.

Radio on internet, ROI. No, the guy. Russ. Russ Hanniman. Feneman. Heneman. Yeah, he was the radio on internet. That's right.

But. Well, the question also is, do they have the personnel for this? They've obviously raised a lot of money, so they're probably going to go hire AI people. But like, so they're just going to have to, everybody associated with,

pretty much everybody associated with the footwear company is gone. And they're just going to bring in AI people. So it's just basically like, it'd be like if we pivoted and we're like, we're not going to do pods anymore. We're going to do, uh, we're going to start making hot air balloons.

We're going to start out hot air balloon. We got to get rid of everybody who doesn't have that expertise. Hey. Yeah. Yeah, sorry, Randy. We don't need a producer anymore. Actually, it's kind of you. You're pushing on.

Unless you can learn the pilot hot air balloon. You didn't do about it. Based off the conversation we just had, if someone's getting cut based on hot air air balloon knowledge. You're on the block, dude. I will, I will promise you right now, if we pivot to hot air balloon, I'm out. I'm out. I'm not doing it.

Gavin Belson. He's the fake CEO of Huli. But this is something that he would do. like buy a shoe company and make it AI. I mean, it's going to be funny to watch. I don't know. Are we too late? I wish I had known about this before the stock went up.

That way I could have bought some and then it wouldn't have went up. I wish I had some insider information. Yeah. Thanks a lot. Someone did. Hey, someone cashed in all that. You know what? There's probably a good reason why nobody at Albert's told us.

Probably because we've been actively shitting on them for about 12 years. Did Baron Trump load up on the Allbirds stock before this? How's Pelosi's portfolio? yeah Debbie Wasserman she just made 30 times absolute killing

Bunsen burner balloons Jared says in the chat that's good is that Jared Boris Flut? Yeah different Jared no bummer

no offense to that other Jared I'm sure he's cool he's probably fine it's like pivoting from a frat lifestyle I blog to a clothing retailer. It's a little different, maybe. Just the cactus meteor.

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Well, she resigned from the athletic. Rossini. I guess there wasn't really like whatever the hiking trip she was on. Or like nobody really, like, you know what I'm saying? Well, in her statement, she still claims that she was up to no good, I mean, she was up to nothing. Like nothing bad, which pictures would indicate otherwise, certainly. but she still claims complete innocence there. Did she outright deny any type of affair with Vrabel?

Not in that exact language. Okay. Let me, I'll read some of the statement. Dear Stephen, Stephen Gensberg is the executive director of the athletic. Please accept this later resignation. You and I have publicly addressed, I'm skipping some of it. You and I have publicly addressed the recent attacks against me, and I have nothing to add publicly to what we have said. Then she said, in the days that followed, unfortunately, commentators in various media have engaged in self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from the facts.

Moreover, this media frenzy is hurdling forward without regard for the review process the athletic is trying to complete, continues to escalate, fueled by. the repeated leaks and I have no interest in submitting to a public inquiry that has already caused far more damage that I'm willing to accept. That's the, that's the denial paragraph in her statement. So it's not an outward, an overt like we're not having an affair, but she. What she said is accurate. There is a lot of speculation and it has created a frenzy. And I will say since we, this came out last week, I think it was, like, the amount of people that have had the time to go pull old Rusini clips on like every show ever. And like there was a time where my four Utah was nothing but Rossini like throwing her husband under the bus or gassing up Vrable or talking about relationships in a way that that stuff's just been making the rounds.

It's been crazy. The amount of stuff they've pulled is unreal. Yeah. It looks bad. So, I mean, those pictures, you can't explain those pictures away and like maintain innocence. Like, you just can't do it. It was a, because we talked about it with Dan, the picture we were looking at, I did not realize that the picture of them like hugging and holding hands were them alone on top of a building with no one else around it. Like, top of their individual bungalow that they were staying in.

That made it seem a lot more like, oh, worth speculation. Yeah, because if you want to, if you want to be out. of the public eye that's like where you would go with variable uh previously like i know he was a previous uh player but was he uh very obese no okay no i asked that because she broke the story that before he was the titans head coach that teams did not want to interview him because of his really yeah and i was like he he got he's a man of size he got a little husky after he retired but i mean like there's a there's a number of i don't think he's a i don't think he's like he's a man of size he's got a anyone's going to call that guy fat that's weird i mean okay yeah it's uh i mean you knew that

her contract wasn't going to get renewed so this is probably the the best option the contract was set to expire on june 30th so it was almost up anyway yeah um yeah this is tough for the uh the women in sports journalism did you see clay travis's commentary no let me Is it really good? Like really moves the conversation forward? He defends Vrable. Okay. While degrading Rossini, basically.

He says that a woman reporter is not allowed to sleep with a head coach because it, you know, it gains an unfair advantage. It's unethical. But he said as a head coach, you can sleep with whoever you want, whoever you want, because your job is just to win. That's basically what he said. I stopped listening after about 20 seconds because I despise Clay Travis. Well, they're definitely held to two different standards, like professionally,

because there is more ethical considerations in journalism in general. He's not going to lose his job. He's also, they're both married. They're both married. So, yeah, as a married head coach, you probably shouldn't do that. Right. Unless you have some kind of arrangement, which, I, yeah. You know, whatever. But no, I see what he's saying, but also like...

But why say it? Yeah. Like, we know the score here. It's... I mean, like, a coach... A coach sleeping with a random woman who's not a journalist, but also not his wife, that's not typically going to get him fired. No. A pattern of that would.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. If it's public and it gets messy. Now, a regular journalist of any kind sleeping with a source. to get stories, that will a lot of times get you fired. Yeah. So, yeah, I see what he's, I get what, it's like saying like the thing that, like, to be inflammatory. He just, he comes off as misogynistic. No.

Him? Him. No way. The boy CT. So she's just pretty much going out on her own terms, because she was about to be out of the door anyways. She'll, she'll catch on somewhere. The joke that I've heard, like, everybody.

who's covered the story's been like oh she'll be on but bar still one two i see that too i almost don't don't know what kind of relationship if any she has with portnoy or any of those guys but it almost feels like too obvious that they wouldn't do that like so obvious that she'd be a fit there or they might do that that they will go they won't really want that it's a landing place for the uh the outcast the pariah grudin's there grudin's the obvious great example and he's uh rebuilt his career persona. Yeah. There.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, man. All I know is there's all the people. I don't know who has time to go back and pull old recidi clips from Mike and Mike. Like, you know, 15 year old shows. It's crazy. It's just her husband.

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won't give it away but like what's going on there i didn't know that was the thing and i was like man i found my next great show and i'm now through i think i'm through the first season and i got to tell tell you this show has gone from a great show first episode to man they really kind of mail in the writing and it's not that great of a show but it is one i like want to see out it's got decent rotten tomato score so anybody who uh was thinking about doing this because of my recommendation just know this it's a lot it's very lost-ish in that like Like, it's a lot of character and current, current setting character, stares off into space, and then flashback. It's a lot of that that flash forward, which I'm fine with.

But I will say a lot of the plot points, the movement, and then just like the things that are going down, you're like, oh, there's a lot of holes here. and it feels very Game of Thrones final season Z. And this is just the first season. There's two more. I've been told it gets better. The second season's out right now, right? You just started the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think they're in the third season now. I texted Barrett because I was like, hey, are you guys on this show in OCC or at least aware of it? And he described it as the, he said they're not, but he's aware and he thought it was supposed to be a good, bad show. I love a good bad show. But it's not like a Yellowstone good bad show. It's not that over the top, but it's just like you're watching it and you're like,

this could be better. Yeah. Like this should be better. Like given the cast and everything, it should be better. So you're not going to put your stamp of a recommendation. No, you don't need. It's not one you need to watch. Okay.

There's better stuff. But I know, I need to watch the boys. I was going to start last night. Well, the problem of that is that need to watch second season of Gen V. I looked it up online. They said, like, I think that the creator said that GenV is more than just a spin-off. going to have real like plot in like whatever the word I'm looking for there I'm enjoying the new boys season did was the third episode released already I haven't I haven't

watched it all because good you go watch all second season of gen v so I understand what's going I've watched any gen v I've done the first two for the boys it's good good so making my way through invincible how many seasons of the boys are there three the fourth this is the fourth and final I think it's the fifth oh so you're not caught up no I'm on the final season just launched. Right. That's what we're saying. Yeah, yeah.

I'm caught up. What did you just say you're on the second season of it? The second episode. Oh, episode. Episode. Yeah, I don't know if I've got the time for GenVie. Is it?

It's not like a must watch for continuity purposes, right? When I looked at up, something said that it was. Google AI over there said. So it's like a supplemental, but like a rec, it's like a professor saying like, hey, you should buy the book. Also, I authored the book. So buy it, please. You don't need it.

It's not the textbook, but this would greatly help you out. Okay. Okay, here we go. This is what it says. While showrunner Eric Kripke has stated, Gen V is not strictly required to understand the boys' season five. It is highly recommended to watch it to understand the full context. Gen V includes characters and joining forces, establishing key pop points. So it's like, it's highly recommended.

where I think a lot of the like Disney Plus Marvel shows you could still watch the movies and never really watch the shows understand what's going on but I don't know the showrunner says that it's highly recommended that again they are the showrunners

so they want people to go watch it true facts what are you going to say I was going to say I just finished a documentary called Trust Me the False Profit on Netflix how was that good

okay it's about you know fl ds the fundamentalist latter day saints sect of Mormonism and this this guy who has like 20-something wives and a few of which are minors and it's it's it's very sad but it the end like it wraps up in like a very positive way it's good it's good it's fucking twisted man but not in like a john duda twisted way no twisted and like this is fucked way is this modern Yeah. Damn.

Yeah. Why's doing DTF St. Louis? Okay, the one with Hopper and Jason Bateman. I guess I got to hop on and watch it with her. It looks, she's like, she said it's very bizarre, the characters, but she likes it. So I'm going to watch it. Maybe I'll, yeah. He's David Harbour.

He's, his whole scene right now bothers me. We talk about it with Keyes. Sex Palace? Yeah. I don't like knowing that much about it. I don't like knowing that there was butt plugs just laying around. You don't like that? What did he choose us to do behind closed doors, but still?

No, I'll give it a shot. You know, I'm not a Bateman guy. You know? No, I didn't know that. Even though I watched that thing with him in Ozark? Nope. Watch the first season. Second season now.

You don't like Bateman? Not really. I don't find him convincing in a lot of his roles. Now, he was okay in that thing that we watched. about the New York City club with the brother. Black Rabbit? Black Rabbit.

I thought he was okay in that. He was good. Ozark has just been with such a weirdly pivotal moment for my... You want another Breaking Bad and they were trying to give it to you and it just didn't live up to Breaking Bad.

That's what they were doing. It was like I knew what they were trying to do. Everyone did. And I was gatekeeping a little bit. I was gatekeeping myself from like enjoying the show but also like I didn't think the second season well just started out so like poor for me it's okay you weren't ready to love again I also gave up on uh was it

yellow jackets I gave up on uh walking dead yeah most people did that but like I finished except for KJ and then I uh the like spin off that was Michone and Rick afterwards I'm like oh this is one I'm going to actually really want to watch I gave it like two episodes and that I just didn't care anymore. It's big of you. Yeah. That's your entertainment minute with the guys. Hey, we'll see you tomorrow.

Maybe we'll have a guest. We'll also listen to voice mails recording later today. That drops Friday. Bye. Bye.