Circling Back - Diddy, Landman, & Goosing | Circling Back 12-17-25

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, All right, we're back. It's a circling back podcast. It's Wednesday morning. My name is Dave. Got a lot to get to today. so let's just let's just jump right into it producer randy hi dave my name's randy and i'm ready to podcast yeah you did it yeah you did the thing i did the thing how you doing man i'm great it's a very gloomy day had a little rain overnight it's damp outside it's cool damp
Starting point is 00:00:51 uh certainly not crisp would not pass the uh crisp criteria that's gross out being used by a lot of people these days. If you read Washed Weekly on our Substack, washoutsubstack.com, you'll know about that. But yeah, man, it's just kind of, it's a good Guinness Day. Good day to get a pint. Ooh. Not going to do it, but I'm just saying you could. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Don't just float that out there. Did you go throw darts last night? No. I don't like, I don't like throwing darts. Because you're not good at it? Yeah. Because you'll end up punching a table? No, I just not.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm like good. And so I just like, yeah. It's not for me. It's like ping pong. They're not similar. No, as in, like, that's why Dylan doesn't want to play. I got a buddy who plays darts and some friends of mine were out throwing darts at Little Woodrow's actually. And my buddy thought it'd be funny just to throw a dart at my friend's leg.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And he did. And it stuck in them pretty good. And it caused tension in their friendship for a bit. But they got over it. Undeniably funny. I don't know. Undeniably not cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And it just hung there, right? Like, it just... I don't know how far it penetrated, but definitely stuck to his leg, yeah. It's only funny if it sticks to the leg and just kind of... Yeah. If it's in deep enough to, like, just stay straight out, that's a problem. Yeah. With lower leg or...
Starting point is 00:02:17 I think around the calf area, yeah. You want to avoid the artery? Sure. Up in the... What is it? What's up here? Is it the femoral? Yeah, probably femoral.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Yeah. There you go. That's where that name comes from. Yeah, you don't want that one. Surprise you didn't know that, Randy. Dr. Dave. I didn't know that you knew the stuff about the body. Yeah, I know a lot, man.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Just ask your girl. Oh, ho. Wow. He got me, folks. But now my wife doesn't have to go back to the office until, like, first week of January. She's already off? January 5th.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Not, no, but, like, working from home-ish. and just and so she's just at home just probably watching Harry Potter. That sounds dope. Pretty dope. It's a great Harry Potter Day. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It's a good Harry Potter Day, no? That's facts. You just forgive me for me just dunking on you and just acknowledge what I said is accurate. It's accurate, guys. I guess it's accurate. Dave's bullying me. Everyone can see it live on air right now.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Go fall circling back on Instagram because we just posted the Merriman Christmas party. What does he call it? Cocktail Hour? The bi-annual
Starting point is 00:03:33 Merryman Christmas Cocktail Hour. Yeah, he's got to work on that a little bit. But we posted some picks. They were
Starting point is 00:03:39 taken with a film camera. So I'm taking with a phone too. It has nothing on the wacky, tacky, Trembacky Christmas
Starting point is 00:03:48 spectacular. I'll tell you that much. That hasn't happened yet. Is that a party you're doing at home by yourself?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Mm-hmm. Cool. Maybe it'll be biannual. Brett will have his classy one every other year and I'll have my tacky-wacky one every other year. So he's doing it biannually.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So when's like the next one? Two years? No, he's doing two a year, huh? Semi-annual and biannual confuse me. By-annual would obviously, in my mind, implies twice a year, but he means every other year. Yeah. Well, why is he committing to every other year? I think he just didn't do it last year, so he's just naming it biannual.
Starting point is 00:04:27 This is like when I brought up the annual Grand X Memorial Day cruise, the first annual cruise, and then you guys never did it again. Jay Bone and I had a lot of jokes got like you can't call something annual when you've only done it one time. You have to do it at least like twice. Well, you're kind of like setting the bar. Yeah. You're saying check this out. And guess what? It didn't happen again.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Which cruise was it? The booze cruise. I don't know. It was the booze crew. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't do that again. We did a bar crawl, though. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Friendships made. Friendships lost. Good time. Yeah. Here's a guy who's never lost a friendship a day in his life. That's right. In fact, he still has that one friend from back in the day, Dylan Shivery. That's right.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Pretty stoked to be here. We got some fun stuff to talk about today. Spielberg's doing an alien movie. Yeah. I'm in on this one. Give me your 30 second recap of the trailer. Explain to me what this movie is about and Randy as well. Emily Blunt plays a meteorologist, I believe.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And she's standing in front of the screen, starts to talk, and then her voice changes to like alien language. What's up? They're communicating. Cold front season, y'all. Communicating to humans via this weather later. and, you know, there's not a whole lot you can tell about the plot from just a trailer, but it looks dope and it's Spielberg, and Emily Blonde is, I like her, too.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm about to pull up in the rolls truck, y'all. Yeah, it's not English that she's speaking. It's alien language. And there's some clicks and some weird sounds. Damn, I really put Gucci in the ride. No, you did it. you put Gucci in the in the in the spaceship i'm really like that okay seeing the aliens pulled up in the me no speak no english that's a foreign yeah it's a
Starting point is 00:06:37 you don't know about that that's i'm on that foreign ish broke ass yeah it looks dope man i don't know check it out i'm blunt i'm in for real right man a lot of people not me they like to a lot of people in a group text have been they go home and they're at the
Starting point is 00:06:58 parents place or the holidays and they turn on like the local news parents love the local news and they put it on it's like oh
Starting point is 00:07:03 new weather girl huh new traffic girl what's going on here starts sending out the text who's this I don't know they might go look her
Starting point is 00:07:15 on Instagram and be like hey fond of you follow her wait till they figure out what they're doing in Latin America with the weather ladies
Starting point is 00:07:22 that's a whole different ball game trust me we we know okay yeah some know I don't they
Starting point is 00:07:29 they all fit a very specific profile if you know what I mean Shorty really like that yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:07:38 yeah she's there's something I don't know their names anyway very excited about the show today so who is the first
Starting point is 00:07:47 no never mind we'll do that the first weatherman no first latina no not the first latina yeah who's the first latina
Starting point is 00:07:56 what Latino weather lady I mean no there was one that like is like the one everybody's like well oh yeah I don't know her name but she's from Mexico
Starting point is 00:08:05 like your your dad's like 70 and up group text just discovered her on Facebook like a week ago they can't understand a word she's saying but she's been around for 10 years they're going to watch the entire broadcast yeah
Starting point is 00:08:17 yeah This fucking point set of them. Do we need to water that thing? I told Rainy to do it. No, that's no. You said you're taking the responsibility to water. We have that clearly on tape, you saying that. It's a joke.
Starting point is 00:08:32 It's a bad omen. Is it? I don't know. I don't know how to care for a point setta. Come on. I think you just let it die. No, you water it. Okay, let's water it.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Let's take care of it. It's been good to us. We should be good to it. You're laughing. The point setta is dying and you're laughing. I'll water it today. How about that? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Just letting it die next to them. Don't worry, that other tree won't die. It's fake. Big show today, y'all. Oh, yeah. Brought to you by Roebuck. Use code wash 20. Load that card up Haas.
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Starting point is 00:10:27 You gotta want to love that car house. Load it up, Haas. It's a great, it's a great thing to have. It's crazy how much stuff they have now compared to when they first came on board with us. There's so much stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:38 That's facts from Randy. What else? Man, we did, well, what did we did? Circling back on touching base yesterday. Did we? Will sat in.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Sort of. We went about 90 minutes. And of the 90 minutes, I would say 87 of them were fun and easy banter. Yep. No rundown. And then the other three were us was the clip that we listened to from an old podcast that we used to do. And I think it was really good content. I haven't seen anybody complaining.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Has anybody complained? There was one guy. What he said? He left like three comments. What he said? On Patreon? yeah what was he what do you say i don't want to expose him you can go on patreon
Starting point is 00:11:21 you'll tell me his name yeah we'll talk about if you want to see what he said you should be subscribed on patreon so you could see what he said what if we just post the audio that we were going to do like on there so he can listen to it or we can just wait till later too i feel like there's more utility in the three of us and randy the four of us really just riffing will was looking to chat will was and i'm not going to be like hey man i know you got a lot to say right now but i think
Starting point is 00:11:46 most people will find that more fun. Imagine being disappointed with what we gave. I'm sorry. I know, you guys pay your harder in five or $10 a week or if you're free. A month.
Starting point is 00:11:56 A week would be tight. Y'all should start doing that. I think people are enjoying it. Someone was on my board, was on board with me. You know, Flaming Will's shoes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I like the shoes. They've grown on me. He changed the laces out. But go check it out on Patreon. You can try it free for a week. If you want to start paying, more like a bunch more because you want to see us do more ball or shit that's cool with me now you go do hilariously ball or shit i guess you can donate i think on there i don't know how that works
Starting point is 00:12:26 yeah but what you can do for sure which is completely free is like this video right now on youtube true good point good point randall thanks for thanks for that good point randy thank you you know what good point point point good point all right Let's talk. We watched the Diddy Dog. We did. This is called the fall of Diddy. The Reckoning.
Starting point is 00:12:53 The Reckoning. There's been too many. Ooh, Papa John. Is this what Papa had in mind? This is what he was talking about. This is the day of reckoning. So I came in last week and I had been kind of talking it up saying that it's really well done. And I think everybody should watch it.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I think y'all should watch it. Especially Dylan. I mean, Dylan's about my age. He's obviously a lot older, but came up with. listening to similar music, hip hop in the late 90s, 2000s. Diddy is a cultural phenomenon, an icon of our teenage years and our 20s, right? But some controversy comes with that. And this documentary obtains some footage, unauthorized footage from Diddy's camp.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Diddy has since sued Fiddy. Of course. For using this footage. For using the footage, like you said, unauthorized. authorized footage and I think just defamation was the other one. Okay. Well, yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So that's going to be drawn out and that's going to get ugly, but, um, a wild ride this documentary was. A wild ride, a lot of like, holy shit, a lot of like very sad, depressing things given like, I mean, he straight up has like sexual assault allegations going back to like the nine, early 90s before he was even. No, right? I think they like at the end there, they say a hundred civil like lawsuits in 77 are still pending like that's a lot. That's a lot. So starts in the early years gives you a rundown. His dad was a drug dealer allegedly like a big time hustler in New York City. It's shot in the head in Central Park. Talks to a kid from a guy who grew up with him, lived with him and his mom. And I found him to be of like everyone they talked to that provided commentary of Diddy over the years. I found that gentleman and then the gentleman who co-founded Bad Boy with Diddy to be the most, I guess, helpful.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Insightful. Insightful. Yeah. Like a character witness. Yeah. Character wasn't great. I mean, when you know somebody, yeah, when you know somebody for that long and you were there for like the rise of that person, you've seen. at their best, you've seen them at their worst.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Which I was interested. His childhood friends seemed like he knew a lot about him over the years. So I guess they were constantly like friends and like they didn't really explain that dynamic more like throughout his years, you know? But I assume they remained good friends or at least were in each other's lives. Yeah, it didn't really, it wasn't really clear on when that stopped, if it stopped and what his role might have been. But yeah, you have, did he coming up and it's like okay he gets his foot in the door uh did you know anything about the basketball game no he helped put on that that was uh no i did not know about that yeah one of the first things that they showed the documentary a basketball game they put on um it's
Starting point is 00:16:01 like a celebrity yeah what in the people rushed to enter the arena too many people showed up they bum rushed the thing because people didn't have uh tickets so that you know they It's like the area 51 that can't stop us all. So like that happens at concerts and people just bumrushed the entrance. It's like a stairwell going down with doors that were locked and people just kept pushing and pushing. And I guess enough people got trampled where it was a tragedy. I mean, people died. People were sent to the hospital, really terrible situation.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Not that Diddy is directly to blame for that debacle, but it was just the first in a long line of like people's lives getting ruined around this guy. Yeah. Yeah. I guess the way, it's four episodes, if you haven't watched. The first episode is, like, his come up and how he got into the music industry. The second episode's like East Coast, West Coast, third one is, like, his sexual deviancy. And fourth is, like, what's currently going on with his core cases. I found episode two to be the most entertaining for me just because, like, like Dave said, grew up listening to those guys.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah, notorious B.I.G. Tupac and Diddy and all that stuff. So the East Coast West Coast stuff was, um, nothing really was surprising in that, except for how instrumental diddy was in all of them. I kind of knew that he was behind, you know, the killing of Tupac, but it seemed like he was, he like directly called for like, like put a, put a bounty on, on Tupac or anyone in that crew's head. I mean, like the last few years it's come out that like, yeah, he was probably, like people have been like no he was definitely involved but before like there wasn't uh i think the general
Starting point is 00:17:45 sentiment wasn't that did he was involved like there was like people who know shug had him killed even though shug was driving the car shug night and you're like oh yeah i could see that shug's not a good guy either like okay but it was it was very weird it's a cold case although somebody is on trial for it going to trial for it we find that out later um but yeah it's very odd Because you kind of realize that the two people involved in this, the main characters, Diddy and Tupac, or excuse me, Tupac and Biggie, really didn't, just beef didn't have to happen, really? Especially notorious B.I.G. He seemed to, like, not want to be a part of any of it. Yeah, I mean, the way it's painted is that, like, he's just there to, like, all he wants to do is rap. And, like, him and Tupac were, we're actually friends and, like, did stuff together. I also found it interesting how after Biggie's death, um,
Starting point is 00:18:39 I forgot who was the one interviewed who said this, but, like, he, they weren't really that close, like, Diddy and Biggie. And then after his death, he, like, oh, this is my best friend in the world and just gained a lot of sympathy for that reason. All right. Do you remember watching, I don't know if you watched the VMAs, like, because they used to be like a must watch thing back in the day, video music awards MTV. And like that performance, like after both of them, Pock had died, then, you know, later on Biggie had died. And Sean Combs, Diddy does that performance. Every breath you take, you know, that's like samples the Sting song or the police song. Stings out there singing it. And like, I know this isn't like the main takeaway from the dock, but just the way like that whole thing starts, you have this beautiful choir back there, Sting on stage, sting on stage. And you have like those first few notes of every breath you take. And the way Diddy comes out and does his dance. Yeah. It's just hilarious. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's like, it's like, it's just a weird way to enter the performance. I guess like seeing sad performance. From episode one, like, that's how he got to start, like being a dancer, all that stuff. I'm like, oh, okay, like, this is how it was. Like, it kind of made sense, but I'm like, it still just seems a little too upbeat and, like, dancing. You don't, don't do that for me. I don't want to, don't juby slide at mine, please. That's all I ask.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, it's, it's very interesting. I personally knew there was, like, a East Coast, West Coast beef, but I'll be honest, like, I didn't know much about, like, hip hop, like, the culture of, like, know the history and all of it. I knew there was a beef. I knew, like, Tupac. I didn't know that Diddy was the producer. I always just thought Diddy was, like, another rapper. So, like, this is a lot, like, educational, too.
Starting point is 00:20:34 If you don't really know about, like, the hip-hop history. He is a shitty rapper. That's why he was always in those songs going like, uh-huh, yeah. Like, in the background kind of. Yeah, when he's like in the big pop, it's like, tell your friends to get with my friends. Yeah, I didn't know that was P-Ditt. It's like, he just inserted himself, like, he was the producer. So he inserted himself in all these, in all these songs and all these videos.
Starting point is 00:20:55 when he wasn't really the talent. I mean, that's why... Obviously, it takes talent to produce these beats, but... That's why the infamous video from the Source Awards, when Shug goes up there and accepts that award, he says, if you're a real artist and... Do you don't want you producing...
Starting point is 00:21:07 You want a producer? Dancing all in the videos. Yeah. To go to death row. Dude, Shug's fucking scary. Before this doc, my perception of Diddy was like this, this sexual deviant, just all around terrible person.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And want to be gangster. as what I thought he was. Sure. Turns out he's like a cold-blooded, like, killer. Like, he's an actual, like, awful. That's the takeaway. Yeah. That's the takeaway.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And there's more on that shortly. But, like, yeah, they talk to, there's some connections with some gangsters in New York and Crips in L.A. And, you know, you just, you realize, like, okay, at a minimum, he knew. or was going to have, he tried to have Tupac killed.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And I think my takeaway, my opinion is, yeah, he definitely did. Now, Biggie, the Biggie thing, I feel like it stopped short of saying like he had Biggie killed, but he definitely put Biggie in a situation, brought him back out to Cali, back out to L.A. After the Pock thing, he put him in a situation where like he was probably going to get attacked and get shot.
Starting point is 00:22:24 did and biggie wanted to go back to new york after a while of being in l a day and ditty's like no can't do that yet we got more we got more shit to do he's supposed to go to london he was i got to go to a party oh yeah i got to throw he threw a party he threw a party to basically stunt like he claims it wasn't but like no dude yeah yeah that's like that's like a total heat check it was pretty much like making noise like i'm having a party on your turf which is wild um so yeah Two of, like, the most influential hip-hop artists of, like, the generation are at a minimum tied to this guy. Like, their deaths tied to this guy, right?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Oh, yeah. It's insane. Yeah, episode, like I'll say, episode two, just is this a good history of hip-hop. And it was very cool. I didn't really know bad boy. I didn't know, like, all the people that were part of it. So it was very interesting. This was a very big part of, like, six, seventh, eighth grade for me.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Oh, I did the thing. This was just like the talk. This is everybody was talking like people would like jokingly say like Westside all that shit. And I feel like everybody, at least like in my school, not everybody, but like people were generally team Pock growing up. Like you know what I mean? Like seventh and eighth graders. But like people like really like Tupac. He would like my school was more of a Tupac school.
Starting point is 00:23:52 We were a Biggie school. Really? Yeah. I mean, I like Biggie, but I... I loved Biggie, man. I think everybody, even though Pock, like, had some shittiness, obviously, he was literally in jail for a sexual assault, which I feel like isn't talked about a time. Yeah. You didn't really know.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You just saw Pock in, like, a Red Wings jersey, like, spitting at the cameras and stuff. Going wild as hell. Yeah. No one talks about the fact that he was a convicted rapist. Yeah. And Shug's the one who got him out of jail, I think, or something. signed him after he got out of jail, whole thing. Then you go, I guess you go on to the J-Lo years, which is wild.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Because J-Lo-L-O-Bose-J-L before Cassie? Yes. J-Lo, this is like, I remember this because, like, my mom was reading, my mom loved J-Lo. And, like, you know, this is what J-Lo is, like, ascending from, like, she's, like, not only a pop-star, she's starting to be in movies. and she's like on the cover of People magazine of which we were we got she had the dress the infamous dress at like the i don't know it was the grammies whatever award show you know the the one that was like blue see-through the old green it was green split open like kind of a broke the internet before you could break
Starting point is 00:25:08 the internet type deal big deal but then she starts dating ditty and you're like okay and then you have the club incident which was insane and uh His guy Shine, who was an artist on Bad Boy, like, shot up the club, at least fired his pistol. Allegedly, we don't know if it was him or not. Because I remember this, like, when this trial was going down. Like, some people said it was him, that it was Diddy who did it. And, like, that girl gets hit on the nose. And you're just like, what the fuck's this guy doing?
Starting point is 00:25:42 And it's just so funny because they cut back and forth from, like, all these people like, yeah, Diddy, Did he was always, you know, with guns, blah, blah, blah. and like what you said like Diddy the gangster and then him like sitting down with like MTV News or like doing like really nice interviews and he's just like yeah you know the way he can go back and forth it just seems like total sociopath he did oh yeah absolutely
Starting point is 00:26:03 the one with he did a he was on Ellen it was Ellen the Ellen interview is just bizarre oh this is just a nice dude yeah yeah insane image crap JLo being tied to him is a bit surprising yeah she doesn't seem like the type to I mean, surely she knew some shit was going on, and she was dating the guy. She knew that he was, like, sexually speaking, just a total fucking whack job.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. That's another thing, too. Like, speaking of his, like, old artists, the way he just didn't pay, like, when they talked to Craig Mack's widow, like, Craig Mack, I mean, I don't know. Like, he had that one song that everybody's heard at least a sample of. But, like, the fact that, like, guy has, like, a number one song on your label and, like, can't afford, you know, can't live day to day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And that's insane. The co-founder, he like pretty much strong-armed him to give up 25%. He said he'd give it back. I don't think they ever said if he got gave it back. But then like he fired him. At one point he said that he was like in a homeless shelter. Yeah. He was like the co-founder of bad boy.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's really sad. That's just another guy at his life ruined by this dude. Um, and then you get into, I guess episode three is when you really get into the Cassie stuff. Yeah. I was not familiar, familiar with that until. the last three or four years when like all this shit came out maybe the most shocking part to me throughout this whole documentary was the casty situation yeah and i don't know how much of it
Starting point is 00:27:28 was that she like signed up for or how much of it he was just like coercing her into doing all this weird shit with the jigolo and all that but that was wild so basically there's a jigolo forgot to the jigolo as soon as he entered in the dock it was like oh yeah so we're aware it was very you don't really hear much about male jigilos no no no So they hired this jiggle-o. They're staying at a hotel in, I guess, New York. And this guy knocks on the door not knowing who's going to be the other side of it. And it's Cassie, who at the time probably wasn't a big name at all.
Starting point is 00:28:00 But he was like, oh, this is a very beautiful woman. And then there's this guy with covered his face watching us have sex and giving us like directives on what to do. And if they're even allowed to have sex. And then it just, he just keeps talking about all the weird shit they got into. And then he said that it went on for eight years. years. That's crazy. Eight years. And they would just take ecstasy, stay up all night, just keep having sex. And I don't even want to talk about the collecting the sample stuff because that's just that was like Dave and I could talk about it. Oh my God. Yeah. At one point he says that they kept
Starting point is 00:28:38 just come in a cup. I understand. They collected it. So she could drink it and play with it afterward. Because he asked him one time. It's like, why are you guys keeping this? And yeah, they wanted to play with it. Yeah, that dude seemed very like... He's a jiggleau. He was very open about everything. That guy, like, was a very trustworthy... Like, I believe everything that guy says. Why would he make it up?
Starting point is 00:28:59 He didn't have the tone of a guy who's embellishing to, like, get... We'll get to the people who do that later on, talking about one specific juror. But, yeah, it's crazy. And what you said at the beginning is, like, kind of where... So Diddy eventually goes on trial, you know, but... And we know he got he got popped for two of the lesser charges, like transporting prostitute across state lines, which is what he's currently in jail for. But like where it broke down, it appears with like some of the jurors and they talked to this one older like juror. And is it like how much of that was like, this guy clearly doesn't understand like what an abusive relationship looks like.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's exactly what I was thinking the whole time. It's like, well, he's explaining. He's like, yeah, I understand that he was like awful to her, but she kept going back. and it takes two. Like, dude, come on. You know how to understand what, like, what, like, abuse is like? The documentary does, like, a really good job of, like, just, first of all, there's, like, not a narrator.
Starting point is 00:29:58 It's not like, um, they don't really like, it doesn't seem like they have to tilt it and put it in your face. Like, everything, they just lay it out. Yeah. And you just read into, like, that guy. They just let him say that. And it's like, yeah, this dude clearly doesn't understand what you just said. Yeah, and the other, the female juror was just talking about,
Starting point is 00:30:15 oh, yeah, I grew up listening this music. I'm a big. She was way too excited. She was a big, Diddy fan. Yeah, no. And she was like talking about, not sequestering the jurors was like, to me, like, well, that seems like a big, like, because she talked about how people would go and go to TikTok
Starting point is 00:30:29 and Instagram. They clearly were like running that campaign. She's like, well, I wasn't watching all this stuff. Bullshit. She definitely was. I don't trust the thing she says. That, that was crazy. She was getting smoked online.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I mean, that's. Because the first thing I did was go search her on Twitter just to see what, because I was, we were a little late on this, like, by a couple of weeks. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay, good. I'm not the only one who thought that that woman was like, just not, you don't want her on your jury. Yeah. You don't want him on your jury.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I felt so bad for Cassie during this whole thing. It was just, it was dark. Yeah, I can't imagine going through that. And she knows she's having to relive it all because of the documentary, which sucks. And they didn't even get, like, the documentary didn't even go into like the other, like the stuff that has been online the last couple years, like, the freak-offs, like, you know, like, because there's like, apparently way more to it.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah, they didn't focus on like these big ditty parties at all, really. There was like a very small part. I'm wondering if there's like more of this that's going to come out. Dude loves baby oil. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, I thought that was just like a random thing that was following the investigation. It came up a lot during this documentary. And then it put some kind of drug in the baby oil.
Starting point is 00:31:41 GHB? What is that? GHB was just commonly known as like the date rape drug, but you can take it at lower doses. Never done GHP. You could take it at lower doses, but, like, that is bizarre. Definitely seems like he routinely drugged women to have sex with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 The Aubrey O'Day part was really ugly, too. Yeah, that was brutal. Yeah, it was, like, these girls, these women, like, finding out post-fact, like, when all this came out, like, I didn't even know this happened. Like, that seems that happened multiple times where they just found out about it. Like the the fact that like it's gone that like that happened so long ago and like it's gone on this long and like this it's happened that many times like how many people in the industry like knew and enabled him and like never said anything so they talked to like his executive assistant who he eventually fired Capricorn I think her name was yeah she like it seemed
Starting point is 00:32:41 like she was like fine with it until he fired her and now it's like she feels scoring unless i'm like not misremembering something but like the two jurors did like kind of trash her a little bit and like i'm like i don't really trust these jurors but also yeah like she talked about how she was brought to central park and like did he threaten to kill her like immediately if she like ever betrayed him and then the whole thing with kid cuddy i see a movie i'm like why didn't you like do anything during this time you just like oh okay i whatever walks her like so dramatic to bring her to central park to be like on her like first day of work like, oh, dude, the Kid Cuddy thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's not that I don't believe her,
Starting point is 00:33:20 but it's like, why are you just not doing this? He was going to go kill Kid Cuddy. So Cassie, while with Diddy, was in, I guess it was L.A., and was linked up with Kid Cuddy, and they went on a hike together. And the assistant, her name is Capricorn, was made aware of this. And she was like, you put me in a really tough spot because now, like, I have to keep this from Diddy. And if he finds out, we're all in a lot of trouble. Diddy later does find out that Cassie went on a hike with Capricorn and Cassie. He's like, all right, let's go. We're going to go his house to kill him.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Brings a gun and basically holds her against her will to like, kidnaps her. Capricorn, that is, and brings her to, and he had a kid, Cuddy's house to kill the guy. And he wasn't there. To kill Kid Cuddy. And then they, I don't think they talked about this came out during the trial. And for whatever reason, unless I missed it, like they didn't mention that Diddy, like,
Starting point is 00:34:13 said Cuddy's car on fire. some point with a Molotov cocktail. Yeah. Like, yeah, they never talked about that. blew up the man's car. Because when that came out,
Starting point is 00:34:21 I was like waiting for that part, but they didn't mention it all. Which I guess she, he was like surrounded by enablers, but also I guess people were fearful. Because at the end of this, with all the stuff that we just watched and like, the documentary ends in like,
Starting point is 00:34:35 he's in 50 months of jail with time served, which what does that mean time served? Means he's already served some of it because he's been held. Okay, that's what I thought. It's all of jail. But it was like, I didn't really.
Starting point is 00:34:45 feel like justice was served and like his so much stuff has got he's gotten away with over the years so like i could see why people wouldn't want to like speak up because they're fearful because he's gotten away with so much shit well dude i mean the guy was i don't know what his net worth at its peak was but i'll say you know it was over a hundred million dollars probably 200 300 million dollars right when sean john was cooking all that and like dude when you have that kind of money man people people like they overlooked all that shit just to get to be close to get to be close to the access and maybe get a piece of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And it's unbelievable. And it's also like a power thing too. He clearly had like what seven lawyers and they were running like campaigns during this thing. Like that's why he got off with so much stuff like he was able to throw money and just it makes, it made me feel like sick being like, oh yeah, he's like in the public eye. But all these elite people like they get away with everything because they just have money and power and they don't have to be held accountable.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Yeah. It was just like I didn't feel good how that ended. good how that ended episode okay before that episode four like so they're talking to is it little rod yeah also producer who i've kind of found he got shafted too he was sympathetic so he produced diddy's last album which okay and said he was he was promised like uh the 250k or something i don't remember a big a big sum of money and then diddy offered him 27k of which he's never even seen a dime of but anyway like the thing thing that I was completely shocked by it, because when they got to episode four, I was like, all right, we're through the Cassie stuff. I'm sure they're going to do the trial. But like, what else can they do? Oh, yeah. Hey, I was in the studio one night. We're all there. And all of a sudden, Diddy and his son leave. And then I hear some gunshots. And then this guy died. Died in a bathroom. Cops show up. And Did he pulls a little rod aside. He goes, by the way, this did not happen here.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You know, it definitely did. He even though. Nobody really knows. who the guy was. He even has footage from the bathroom with like blood everywhere. Don't know how did he got away with that one. And then meanwhile like a little rod, he's like, yeah, I'm going to continue producing this album, I guess. I mean, I guess, you know, did he's like everybody who's like close to him as in like an abusive relationship with him, even like producers, but like I can't imagine working in that environment. Kind of toxic. Hey, should make you appreciate working here, Randy. We've never killed anybody in the best.
Starting point is 00:37:14 bathroom? Yes, sir. I understand. That's right. No, dude, and another sneaky, there's a lot of takeaways from this, but like one thing that I was like, oh yeah, I didn't really think about that, but this is something that has just weirdly, I've not been able to kick, is the, Diddy's relationship with his kids, his sons, that aren't, it's not like a father's son relationship. It's like part of his entourage, and they're just like his boys and enablers. Justin Combs was by his side for a lot of the terrible shit it's fucking it's weird dude yeah it's very off putting uh on on so many levels and you're just like i don't know they didn't talk about this but like his ex wife uh joy taylor like she died at 47 some people say him as seriously of pneumonia um they don't because
Starting point is 00:38:05 i was i was wondering like why why haven't they talked to her i don't know i read somewhere that she might have been putting a book together, have not, have not, uh, verified that fact. But, uh, all on all, man, I'm going to say it. This ditty guy stinks. This is pretty shocking shit in here. Yeah. And he'll be out of jail soon. I mean, not.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah. Yeah. Not much longer. It's just wild. I think. I will, I'll say like going through it, it was interesting to see that he did understand the industry. Like, he always knew how to change to like stay in the public.
Starting point is 00:38:40 public eye. Like when they went from, oh, yeah, no music. And then he went MTV. Like, seeing all that MTV stuff was like an interesting look back into, uh, because that was like more of episode three of like, I guess how TV was back then, like making the band and stuff. I never watched baking the band. I just saw the Chappelle skis. I mean, that was like when that happened when he sent them to across the Brooklyn Bridge to go get him a bagel or whatever it was, that was like, I remember that being like a very talked about episode of television. There's a milk one. too right yeah you get us like a specific kind of milk that it'll go walk across manhattan to get or something like that i don't know dude the whole thing it's been named to death too which i guess
Starting point is 00:39:19 i see like in episode one they said like that guy he ran go get a package did he like ran to go get it and ran back so it's just like this is what this guy always like thought work was so that's what he did and expected and then would also be just the most terrible person ever Meanwhile, Randy got mad at me because I didn't go pick up his Hunan Lion yesterday when I was already out getting Brett and I's lunch. You were about another two-minute drive that you could just go and pick up my food as well. The timing didn't align. It would have been cold. It would have made one of our, somebody was getting cold food. Don't fucking work for Randy. My Hunan Lion.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Want me to go get his crispy honey, honey crisp chicken or whatever it was. It's a good deal. You still have a lot of food. Yeah, that's, I'm having it for lunch. She'd eat it for lunch. Otherwise, I might tax it. I brought a banana and a thing of yogurt because those are my sides for my chicken. We're talking about Diddy still.
Starting point is 00:40:13 But yeah, what a shit fucking person. Go on Shug Night for just grabbing Diddy right when his friend got like blasted right next to him and just using him as a human shield. Like that was smart maneuvering right then. Oh, yeah. That's another guy that died because of in that world. Yeah. I forgot about that. Bad dude.
Starting point is 00:40:32 These are bad dudes. Bad ombre. Not a fan No Will you commit to not listening to any ditty music That's easy to do I commit, Randy Maybe I don't know what he's in and what he's not
Starting point is 00:40:50 He's a shit rapper He's shit rapper I don't know Like am I never going to listen to any Biggie Smalls ever again No, you can still spend Like how many other things is he like a little Oh yeah You know
Starting point is 00:41:00 Like how many songs is he in on that? All the mace tracks I like the You know what The laziness in making your alias Frank Black Biggie's Frank White Is like
Starting point is 00:41:14 Okay dude He wants to get caught Does you want to get caught Frank Black Okay Getting away with that murder Outside the studio Almost like there wasn't even an investigation
Starting point is 00:41:28 They just glossed right over it The first time they got Pock too in the studio Yeah When he shot Pock that was definitely somebody he set pock up he definitely did and then like and that's what big you didn't know i'm assuming big you didn't know and uh what like the detective that was doing tupac and like interviewed that crypt like there's pretty much like admitted to everything on there and then like just nothing came i guess the guy eventually said that like he went back and said it was in duress but why was
Starting point is 00:41:55 why was he recording everything in his house like what what is on that on those videos who who does he have on there it's crazy that's trying to block me people, right? I guess they don't really get into that. Maybe the next time around, but, yeah. But, yeah, honestly, sneaky MVP was the guy, I can't remember his name, who was writing for Diddy, like his ghostwriter. It was like, he was a terrible rapper.
Starting point is 00:42:20 He didn't even, like, the shit, I would write for him. He would do it wrong. We're in the studio for, like, all night. The ball guy with the glasses and, like, the white deer. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, he was just like, dude, he's totally terrible. Yeah, he had an emotional moment at the end of that. start crying just ruining people man ruining lives like that dude man if you give the gift of
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Starting point is 00:43:50 So order yours now to get it in time for the holiday. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout terms and conditions. Do apply. One last thing about Diddy that does involve someone in this. room seemed like he was just completely down to take a picture with literally anyone at all times dude is that weird at all like knowing like you got to see like a glimpse of him like leaving a party with security when i was watching the dock i was just waiting for something to happen in minneapolis in 2017 i was thinking the same thing after the super bowl right because he
Starting point is 00:44:21 left he left that party that we went to which is at a really big bar in minneapolis uh just gotten his you know big SUV and drove away i wonder i wonder if you got in it's like wild ass shit that night that I'm going to find out about on this doc didn't happen but what year was that 2017 oh dude almost certainly yeah that that was the guy that was in the middle of all the shit that's crazy and I didn't know any of that at the time it's like oh fuck there's diddy you will you commit to not taking any more photos with diddy uh yeah okay well he took the pledge yeah I didn't know I didn't know what kind of trouble I was getting myself into Hey, same with me only on Landman.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I felt compelled to start season two. Okay. I had to. I watched season one. And much like Yellowstone, it's a show I'm watching. And it is just, it's unlike anything I've ever really sat down and watched because it is, there are multiple times where I tune out on storylines and I'm looking forward to them ending. but and I'm also acknowledging like it's not good
Starting point is 00:45:28 but I can't stop watching that's a Taylor Sheridan John through and through but that's how I felt with Yellowstone that is Yellowstone to a T but he does he has done bangers like Sicario fucking sick movie
Starting point is 00:45:46 I bought Sicario and I watch it like once a month maybe he needs to stick to just movies because these long these long storylines lioness keep going he this he does he don't land lioness uh which is another one never watched that one lioness is is kind of a sick show yeah there's there are some there's a little bit of cornyness but nothing like this but uh i'm obsessed and and if you know it's because billy bob's in it
Starting point is 00:46:12 billy bob is actually pretty good um the show is basically boils down to him getting his fucking dick slammed in the door and him just like uh getting smoked oil and gas um every texas trope how many how many like good americana and texas country artists can you shoehorn into one show soundtrack a lot it turns out um it's just it's just entertaining as hell but also just terrible how's Glenn Powell's new girlfriend doing in the show she just got into TCU I've only watched the first episode. She got into TCU, a big storyline in the first episode was she goes to the admissions office on campus, and they show her on TCU campus, and she goes and sits down with the admissions counselor or whatever, and she's just bombing the interview. They've made her, she's a total dumbass.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And like, she shouldn't get in, but she gets in. and she's going to cheer so they put her in a TCU cheerleading outfit and it's like here's this hot 28 year old playing a high school girl in a TCU cheerleading college girl because she's a TCU now she's not in yet
Starting point is 00:47:34 she hasn't graduated high school so you're kind of watching it and you're like well she's 28 she's 28 in real life but she's dating Clembo it's got on and I just I kind of wish somebody on this show was watching it so I could just take some time and just bitch about it or just
Starting point is 00:47:55 have fun with it a little bit more. But I understand I'm not wanting to take the plunge. But I'm watching it. And you're just, the crux of the show is this dude's just getting smoked. Everything in his life, he's just, I mean, he's making good money. He's a landman. His son, his son just drilled a well. And like a big first episode, oh my God, this fucker's producing. The first well he drills. This kid overnight is now making like 80 grand a month or something. Dude, his son and his partner?
Starting point is 00:48:27 80 grand a week. I don't know what they said. It's insane. And the son's rocking the tech hat. So you got the tech pandering. You got the TCU pandering. Billy Bob just walking around a cowboy. I just, God, damn.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm getting my fucking shit. Smoked every guy. I need a damn cigarette. It's the entire show. just bitching about the subs pretty much entirely I've even gotten into the cartel they're not even in episode one of season two
Starting point is 00:48:55 where it left off season one cartel is a big player and Andy Garcia plays the the cartel boss and I'm assuming he comes in in season two or in episode two Demi Moore her husband was John Hamm he was Jimmy's boss
Starting point is 00:49:12 is it Jimmy? I can't remember Billy Bob's boss he died and now she's taken over now she has all these responsibilities she's at like the fort worth petroleum club with all these cowboys bankers oil and gas guys and she's got to get up there and talk and she gives this badass speech and it's just Alex in the chat says his son is the worst actor on the show
Starting point is 00:49:36 can you confirm that is he a shitty actor it's either the son or the love interest they're terrible it's the worst storyline going so let me give you 3rd 30 seconds on the son's character. Okay. He's producing. I know that much.
Starting point is 00:49:49 He's producing him paying quantities. Son, last season, geologist, goes, gets, he becomes a guy, like a rough neck, gets into this crew. There's an accident, an explosion. Everybody on the crew except for him dies because he was getting a tool out of the truck. He then falls in love with one of the guys on his crew's widows. and now they're together it was way too soon for her to fall in love with this guy okay
Starting point is 00:50:20 and there's a scene making the rounds about her talking about San Antonio where she's from and she's talking about how beautiful it is with the river that runs through the city like Venice and people are just like dude what what are you what the river walk yeah the river walk it's like a senior
Starting point is 00:50:36 frogs on it it is pretty if you it's cool if you block out the Bubba Gump shrimp but a lot of chains yeah but But okay. Anyway, yes, he is not a good actor, unfortunately. His storyline is just, you know what, I'm going to beat the guy. I'm going to go acquire these mineral interests. And then I'm going to drill a well. And then the first well I drill, I'm standing there on it while they're showing, they love showing. They give you the oil and gas porn. Like, they love showing the guys like working the drill bit. This is episode one where he does this. Season two. And they're like, they drill it. They get it down there and they're watching. And then next thing, you know, boom. This guy. Nope. Here you go. It can be paid for real soon in like two months,
Starting point is 00:51:17 and the next thing you know, you're going to be making $80,000 a week. It's like that easy. Everybody should do it. Sounds like a serious man. He is a serious man. So, yeah. Black gold.
Starting point is 00:51:28 They call it. Texas tea. Fucking land, man. I'm going to watch it tonight. Frankie, Frankie, Frankie, oil tank. What else am I going to do? Read a book?
Starting point is 00:51:37 I already read Texas Dives book. I can recommend you some books if you want to read them. No. Okay. A graphic novel, maybe. I'll let you borrow the Last Ronan, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, graphic novel. I think you'd like it. Can I ask a favor?
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Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah. Yeah. Man, what is the timing on that, Pee. Look at you. You're fast, dog. Will's got some tacos out there that smell really good. Oh, man. Might be taco time.
Starting point is 00:53:40 How many times is you? He's going to get tacos this week. Don't judge them, man. Okay. Hey, can you play the, you didn't mention, Randy, if you'd watched your NBA Cup. I did not, but not watching this. I'm really, I'm really upset that I did. So the Knicks took down the spurs.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Great game. I watched like the last couple minutes, but this is the Knicks hoisting the trophy. There's Jalen Brunson right there. Somebody, before you play it, Randy, hang on. I want to give credit where credit is due. A listener tweeted at me and said Can you address us on CB? Seems like something Eugene used to do to Dylan years back.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Or Dave. I believe Eugene has done it to Dave too, right? Or maybe it was Will. Could have been Will. He goes somebody. You know, Eugene. At my bachelor party. He ghost somebody.
Starting point is 00:54:31 We'll give this a watch. Yeah, who goose Jalen Brunson? Dude, Josh Hart absolutely goose him in 4K. Right here? That's the face of your franchise. Bro. Right there in front of everybody. Front of everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Love it, man. Front of God, the entire world. Just boys being boys, dude. You gotta gooos your boys every now and then to keep them in line. Granted, it's the NBA Cup and only Randy cares about it. Yeah. But is this the most high-profile goosing? I've never seen a goosing like this before.
Starting point is 00:55:14 What about you, Don? I don't remember seeing a goosing in this public. Yeah. No, that's great. You got to keep your boys guessing, man. I mean, yeah, that will keep them guessing. There have been times around Eugene where I just can't turn my back to him. I just know he's going to goose somebody.
Starting point is 00:55:31 What's Eugene's deal? He just likes to goose, man. Now, if they probably won't, win the finals, but if they do, we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to see, just gonna get run back in some capacity. You think the PR team for, for the team is like, hey,
Starting point is 00:55:50 let's not do that again. Guys. That's a, that's a salt. Hey. This Twitter account doesn't know the term gusing, obviously. Just said that Josh Hart shut up the thumb up Jalen Brunson's butt. Come on, man. It's called a goose, dog.
Starting point is 00:56:05 That's, that's embarrassing. What are Twitter? That's not regional. Everybody calls it Goosing, right? I don't know. I don't look it up on Twitter. I thought Goosen also just like a little butt squeeze, a little butt pinch could be goosing too.
Starting point is 00:56:20 We should call this Checkin' Oil. You have a tweet. It's Will's, I think, High School Stadium. And it says, imagine gooseing the boys in the upper deck here while watching the Rams lose by 49 on a crispy Friday night. That's good. dude that's living right there it's tough
Starting point is 00:56:41 that's great lakes living man that's just what it's all about dude um brandy after all that mess you talked about the NBA cup and you don't watch a single game yeah I don't know yeah yeah what am I supposed to do
Starting point is 00:57:01 I just I just like the idea of an in like in season tournament That's right. I think it's ridiculous. Speaking of, can you roll that beautiful bean footage? Of the other one, yeah. Can you roll that beautiful jaw rule fitted footage? Speaking of jaw rule.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So we have a pause real quick. This is jaw at, by the way, is that video playing? Jodd a celebrity. And you might notice, hey, there's a camera. There's a bunch of, it's like a gallery. and they're all standing like as if this guy's a professional golfer, but it's not, it's jaw rule.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Okay? Hala, halla. If you're ready to make dollars, dollars. It's murder. I'm real. He's got a few. Firefest. Murder, Inc.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Oh, yeah. A Firefest fame. And he's just going to tee off here. It looks like he's got a hybrid of some sort, maybe an iron. This is a celebrity shootout at the Derek Jeter Invitational. He got invited to
Starting point is 00:58:03 The Jeter, Invitational. And let's watch his T-shot here. I got to ignore y'all right now. I got to put this thing up. Oh, God. That's a shan, dude. That was on bone. That's a shin.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Was it that guy with the gray hair who got got? I don't know, but. That is ball on shinbone. Why are people giving him the respect that you give, like, a tour player when you're standing in front of him, you know, like he's going to definitely going to hit it straight. Yeah, it's been said many times, but there's really no, unless you are a professional, I'm not standing. No. No. Like, even like my friend, if I have you were, if I have a friend who's like a two, yeah, no, because shanks happen. And I don't know much about Jaru might be a golfer. I don't
Starting point is 00:59:01 know, but they showed some practice swings in the other video, and they don't, you can kind of tell, like, this kid goes south real quick. His swing is, like, we might miss club face. His swing is good enough where, like, you can tell, like, he's played golf many times before. He's advanced the ball forward in some way. Yes. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:18 That's not the attack angle you're looking for. I'm not trusting jaw rule to just put one down the center while I'm standing there. I can't think of a more hilarious person to get hit by. Fucking jaw rule, dude. Like, you go home and you've got, like, a knot. on your shin and like what happened oh you're not going to believe it i would feel so bad if i jaw got me jaw rule dude you'll you'll see uh you'll see a pro golfer really hit one kind of you know into the gallery it happens all the time yeah and then you see the next shot they have like
Starting point is 00:59:49 you know the greens right here and then the the gallery is still just like hugging the line they'll hit it over i know from way too close and i'm like man i don't know just a couple grooves low dude I'm in trouble Exactly No man Like what are you doing You got to You always stay behind jaw rule
Starting point is 01:00:07 When he's swinging Always You want to be behind him You can't be in front of him In any capacity Unless you're way down the fair way It's just not safe I can't imagine being a spectator
Starting point is 01:00:18 At the Jeter Invitational Because you know you got a bunch of X ball players That like when they connect They connect But there's no way they hit it Where they think they're going to hit it Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:30 So you're probably just in danger at all moments at the Derek Jeter Invitational. I won't be going. I would like to play one of these. That would be fun. I would be so nervous. I would honestly like tell people like, dude, don't, you got to, you guys got to move. Like, I cannot have y'all. Seriously.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I cannot have y'all right there. And it adds to the stress of that shot. Yeah, dude. It has like that compounding effect that you're really bothering jaw. Like, you're making jaw a little bit nervous and you don't, you don't. You don't want jaw nervous when he's teeing off at all. That was definitely bone. You know that feeling.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, is there even enough there to, like, put a knot, like, enough skin? Like, what happens? Oh, yeah. You'll knot up. Oh, God. Do you think jaw slit him a 20?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Sign a glove? You got to make it right. That's what Phil does, right? Signs a glove. $100 bill. Yeah. I think it decides a glove. Well, he's slid people a $100 bill before.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Okay. Just brings it on the course with him. It's fine. Dude, in any moment, a game might break out. It's true. People forget that I got hit with a golf ball recently at mini golf. Smoked in the head. That's right.
Starting point is 01:01:48 People also forget Randy won't play Butler pitching pot because he's afraid of hitting one so far right. It breaks a window on the parking garage. What is it? What are you afraid of? I don't know. There's cars parked out there. I just don't want to, you know. I'm not far right.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I'm not far left either. And that's my political assessment with Randy. But no, I feel like, I don't know. I could. I don't think I'm going to hit it that hard. But I don't know, that day I just didn't want to. I didn't want to play in general. And I just, I didn't have it.
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Starting point is 01:04:04 That's fabletics.com slash steam. Speaking of steam, this kind of ties in. I don't know everybody has anything else to discuss. I know you're trying to wrap it up here. And I feel like I've talked way too much on this pod. Let me just say that right now. You're doing a great job, man. You got a lot to say.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Well, the Landman thing, you kind of had to carry that one. That one fine. Yeah, I just felt like, I don't know why. When I went out there to pee, I was like, am I talking too much? Well, I did, I did that read, you know, I did some talking. No, I know. You guys, you guys have talked, but I just feel like I don't want people to get too much. I can talk more about the Glovers and Sliders battles.
Starting point is 01:04:43 One guy in Reddit really enjoyed that. Oh, they're not liking it? Are you on the grave diggers? That's the new slider team of note. I haven't. You just told me about that this morning. I just think that people are too scarred from, the Italian brain rot
Starting point is 01:04:59 You were, you know what? You were vindicated. It became a pop culture sensation. It was everywhere. No, I'll share an anecdote from the sauna. It's a today and sauna. I hit the sauna in the morning. I try to do it two or three times a week.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And it's the co-ed sauna at my gym. And it's out at the pool and the indoor pool. And if you're out overlooks the pool. It's nice. And it's about 80, 20, male to female, typically in there. Not a ton of talking unless a couple people go in there and start yapping it up. There's some, there's some yapping going on. But not today.
Starting point is 01:05:41 It was very quiet. Went in there. Everybody just kind of hunched over dead silence. It's awkward talking in that environment because you know that you might be talking to one person, but you're really addressing like 12 people. You're aware of it too. And you can tell people, like they think that this is. their moment to like you're make some point and you are inviting people to chime in because you're
Starting point is 01:06:03 in you're in a silent room just sitting there with strangers so if you talk to someone it's like everyone can hear exactly what's going on yeah yeah yeah um which is why today was really awkward um so we're sitting there and a guy comes in sits down right next to me fine we're just sitting there sweating no talk no talk whatsoever most a lot of people bring headphones in I don't I don't. I don't have headphones that can really withstand that heat. So whatever. Sitting there. And there's another guy who comes in. And, you know, there's the two heating devices in the either corner of the, of the sauna. And they're the heating devices that have like the little cage. And then there's like the little charcoal looking rocks. Yeah. Yeah. And they got that sauna, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:48 It's a great sauna. And they say, you know, there's signs, says, don't pour anything on the rocks. Don't pour water on this. This isn't one of those. Yeah. It's not a steam room type situation. And a guy comes in. He's really got, there's places to sit, but he chooses to stand, which is fine. Some people stand by the heating device. And then he kind of sits down right on top of it, right on top of the wood, wooden box that surrounds it. And he's just kind of sitting there and just gets quiet.
Starting point is 01:07:24 No one has talked. it's like the most silent this thing's been this place has been in a while and uh he kind of gets up you can tell he's about to leave and uh he's got long hair probably down to like his chin kind of a Gavin Rosdale looking guy and he that's him that's good point he didn't know in a little how about that ranny little 90s rock you think i had that did you i didn't even have that so good for you he's sweating people are sweating he puts his face over the heating device as if to like get one
Starting point is 01:07:59 more blast of like the hottest air which I'm like dude you're wild for that that's just straight up dry heat it's hot as fucking there why do you want that and he kind of does a little shake and like sweat drips off of his hair into it
Starting point is 01:08:15 and it sizzles so accidentally accidentally but he should have known that that was definitely going to happen and I'm not so sure he didn't wasn't intending that to happen. Whatever. It wasn't enough to, like, break the thing. Okay. Gets up. Guy next to me just goes, hey, man, you're not supposed to put water in that thing. And everybody, and everyone's just still looking straight ahead. And the guy doesn't react. He goes,
Starting point is 01:08:47 hey, you're not supposed to put any liquid in that. Like, it says it right there on the sign. points of the sign. Okay. And the guy's like, I didn't, he's like, what are you talking about, dude?
Starting point is 01:08:58 He's like, I didn't, I didn't like squeeze the sweat out of my hair into this thing. And he's like, you just got to, he's like, you just don't do that. That's why this thing's always broken,
Starting point is 01:09:07 dude. And, and this is happening. And they're like standing kind of close to each other. Like, and I'm right next to him. And I'm like, it's kind of in that awkward,
Starting point is 01:09:17 like, I can't really look away because they're sitting right next to me. But also like, I, I don't think this is going to come to blows and I really hope, but I'm like, in my head, I'm going to, if this gets escalates, I'm just going to like, y'all need to get out of the sauna. You'll need to take this outside. Go, go. That's what's like on the tip of my time. Would you have said that? It had it come to it? Okay. Because it was, you could tell the whole son. You're ruining the time for everybody in here. People come in here because it's like, they're not in. This is awkward as hell. And the guy's like, yeah, dude, sorry, man. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, I ruined the sauna. And like, he's like, look, I'm just saying, man. I'm just trying. I'm just trying. I've seen this thing broken before. And then the guy leaves and the door shut.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Which guy leaves? The guy who, the sweaty guy who dropped three drops of water. And goes back to Dead Silent. And I'm just, I think everybody's waiting to see if there's any follow up. Because like, I'm anticipating the guy who instigated this to be like, you can believe that guy? Because that's what it felt like. It felt like he was going to be looking for some support.
Starting point is 01:10:17 And no, none. Just dead air for. for and I was just like man what's going through his head would have been nice if that guy also left and so the rest you could have talked about what happened in there like I would have I might have looked I might have been like I would just made like eye contact the other person was gone and just like shrugged my shoulder and whatever it was his eyes closed
Starting point is 01:10:40 where his eyes closed and then like he just heard the sizzle and then just immediately like oh I'm going to talk to like didn't know what happened and no he got caught in I mean because the guy's in like the periphery like he's in like You could see him. You're looking forward. The heating devices like where Dylan is. You have to look forward. It's not like a,
Starting point is 01:10:55 Nissan is just a bench looking out. There's not like different angles to sit at. So everybody saw what was going down. And it was just so, it was so awkward shit going down in there. I was like, is something going on? Is it the holidays that people stressed?
Starting point is 01:11:12 Dude, it's the mercury, man. I looked it up. It's not in, it's not in the Everglades. It left? It left. It's not in there.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Oh. To my knowledge. It was earlier. It was earlier, but, dude. Well, that's good. People are on edge, man. People are on edge. The holidays will do it to you, too.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Holidays stress people out, man. You got a lot of shit you got to do to prepare and travel plans and all that shit. It stresses people out. I don't know. I can't imagine if a fight had broken out in the fucking song. That would have been a sweaty mess. It would have been just disgusting. Disgusting.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Guys slipping. Do you ever think about it? how much sweat seeps into the wood Yeah, the wood in there. Every time I go in there, dude. It kind of gross to me off. I try to think about it. I always throw a towel down. I mean, they do, I think they replace it maybe once a year.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Even throwing the towel down, I mean, your towel is sopping wet by the end of it. Sopping wet towel. That's right. I want to get hot. Kind of gross to me out, but I do love a sauna. I have a big threshold for tolerance, which I feel like sometimes maybe too much. Like, I don't really honk in traffic. But like, sometimes... You honk if you're horny, though.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Yeah, honk your horny, though. Sometimes I do wonder, I'm like, do I need to speak up all things? But I don't want to get a situation like this. But like when I was, it got home yesterday, a lady and her two dogs were walking down our apartment complex and they weren't on like leashes. And like one came up and sniffing me. I was like, oh, hello. Like it didn't really bother me.
Starting point is 01:12:34 But I did want to just go to her like, you know they should be on leashes. Okay. Like one looked like a terrier. I don't know. And one was like a like some type of doodle mix. They were nice dogs. But I just wanted to be like, you know that we have a policy to like put them on leashes because you know that they could you know even that's a good dogs other dogs and
Starting point is 01:12:54 like it's like sure why can you just follow the rules like is it that hard to just keep your dog on a leash but i didn't say anything i just wanted that but i'm wondering what what would make me speak up about something it's it's just no point man people people are just on edge everybody's packing heat the lady you saw is probably packing heat when people don't pick up dog poop i don't say anything but i'm very i very passively aggressively that's passive aggressively do something to make them uncomfortable like you go just drop a huge deuce right i guess you just go step in and you go oh i guess that was at a time where i was working out in my uh i think i told this story you did working out in my gym in my in my building
Starting point is 01:13:39 and someone just let their dog shit right in front of the building and walked away and i just knocked on the glass i was i just pointed to point it to it to us point it to a like you left it and it'd be it'd become a like a recurring problem that's why i was like i got to speak up i always keep like a latex club for that reason like if i see that i'll go pick up the poo and just throw it at the person okay yeah oh monkey style yeah straight up just slinging poo monkey style all right that you know that ends my rant it wasn't really rant i just telling the story and i didn't even know if i needed to tell but i have to say i do like talking awkward moments because I just feel like I don't
Starting point is 01:14:18 it was one of those ones I really wish they would have both left so me and somebody else could have been like why don't you fucking calm down guy you didn't have to you didn't have to bring it up you didn't have to mention it
Starting point is 01:14:28 you really like you've escalated the you've made it weird for everybody no one else was thinking that instead of precious moment figurines should we make awkward moment figurines dude go please do that 3D print them can you a 3D printer first
Starting point is 01:14:42 I don't know if I want one but you know eventually one day I'll get one who knows Hey, this week, of course, next Monday, we're dropping Worst of. We're going to do it in the afternoon? We're going to do a holiday episode Monday. It's going to record on Friday. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:01 So please email me, Dave at washedmedia.com. Email me. Worst of, any Christmas segments you like us to do. Or if you want to call me, don't. You want to, should I give them the pipeline? The pipeline, too. We're recording voicemails tomorrow. That's completely separate.
Starting point is 01:15:16 regular voicemails 888 61848 442 hit the pipeline email me david wash media it'll be like a christmasbord of content so monday morning will be a regular pod those are always fun man with uh noted oakland oh it's not even Oakland noted athletic Brent Roker they don't have a city next to their name right now damn noted A they're just the athletics Brent Rooker. Doing the show Monday morning. Going to mix it up with him. And then Monday will drop the Christmas episode.
Starting point is 01:15:52 But this week, 888, 61848-48-44-22, hit the pipeline for listener voicemails. And if you have worst stuff, Christmas stuff, hit the pipeline too. And I'll separate them and that can go on the Monday episode. All right. Bye. You know what I'm going to do.

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