Circling Back - Ice Cream & Scandals | Circling Back 5-7-26

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

KJ Ellis joins the show to talk ice cream, the latest revelation in the Vrabel-Russini scandal, notes from KJ on the TV shows draft, the JP Morgan story that won't go away, This Weekend in Fun, & Run it Back. Support us on Patreon and receive weekly episodes for as low $5 per month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch all of our full episodes on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/washedmedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Washed Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.washedmedia.shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • (00:00) Fun & Easy Banter • (14:15) Which ice cream is KJ? • (25:10) Another Vrabel-Russini follow-up • (43:30) Draft Re-Review w/ KJ • (1:00:35) Guess who hired a high profile attorney • (1:07:00) This Weekend in Fun • (1:15:30) Run it Back Support This Episode’s Sponsors: - Cheers: For a limited time our listeners are getting 20% off their entire order by using code STEAM at ⁠https://cheershealth.com/⁠ - Poncho: Go to ⁠https://ponchooutdoors.com/STEAM⁠ for $10 off your first order and free shipping. - Rocket Money: Join at ⁠https://rocketmoney.com/circling⁠ - Leesa: Go to ⁠https://www.leesa.com/⁠ for 25% off mattresses PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code STEAM, exclusive for our listeners. - BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month at ⁠⁠⁠https://betterhelp.com/circling⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, we're back. Thursday, circling back. Hello. Hello. Dude, put the glasses on. This is so stupid. Just put them on. It's not a novelty.

It's not a bit. Oh, the actual prescription, yeah. Literally. That's more reason to wear. You just don't want to, we can't have two glasses guys out. You're trying to say? Yeah, we already have, we're three mustache guys,

which I'm trying to take care of with the beard. I don't want to be double glasses guys. And also, they're not, They're for screens and I'm not looking at screens right now necessarily. Do you when I'm in my whip, I got screens everywhere. It's tough. Oh, really? Tough to avoid.

What you got on your screen? Don't worry about it. Show me the money watching Jerry McGuire. I got the reference. Randall Trimbecky. Hi, Dave. I'm leveraging AI tools as we speak. What's your go-to?

Claude for information, Gemini for image creation, and I'm going to probably start trying to learn Cedin's 2 for video stuff. Yeah, I've been leveraging Nitro for Joust. It's American Gladiators. A glaring omission from draft. He mentioned it in his honorable mentions. Yeah, it was my honorable mention. I almost drafted it in the last round, actually.

It was a show I watched somewhat. somewhat of an age play. Sure. Yeah, there were some hot dudes on there. I was watching a YouTube video recently, like as in just a few minutes ago, and I got served an AI commercial on there, like an AI ad, like, all, it's,

it's so lame, dog. It's pretty common. UFC is doing all their UFC White House promo, all AI. Really? And unabashedly. This is just an AI-generated dude with the,

with the power washer. Like attachment on your hose and it was just the whole video was fake. It was so obvious. I hate it. You're such a sim. You're attached to the hose. That is very prevalent on TikTok. Oh, is it? Yeah, a lot of AI.

Okay, I don't like it. Stuff is terrible. You're taking her jerbs, man. Whose? Videographers, graphic designers, things of that nature. You're not wrong. Yeah.

Thank you. We've got a special guest. It's KJ. What up, fellows? How are you? Oh, shit. Hot, loud. Hot Mike.

Wow, producer week. Yeah, yeah. Every tank is rain. If you want to turn yourself down, I'll put you back up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm down. I'm low. Tell me, how low do I need to go?

Is that better? We go? Hello. Drop it to them. All right. Go, keep going. I don't even know where I was before. Let's retake that momentum.

We're doing it live, right? Yeah. Happy to be here on the AI commercial bit real quick. I feel like that's Amazon is what you're going to get 99% time. It's something that's going to try to rip you off, like to send you to Amazon or maybe T-Mu, but I don't really know. I don't know much about that world. On that note, did you just see the, do we talk about this yet? The AI podcast, like an Amazon product.

you can generate an AI podcast about the product. Chad, are we cooked? It's so fucking ridiculous, man. We were cooked the moment that it's been a few years, but I remember seeing it announced and immediately thinking like, man, I really should not have made that Asian joke that one time. When they're like, oh, hey, Apple will automatically transcribe podcasts. And it's like, I'm not going to be cooked because somebody's going to listen to an old

episode of like one of my first podcasts a decade ago. I'm going to be cooked because that transcript or whatever. ever is going to be out there. And in some rambling moment, I also have like personal information mixed in and that will be out there and recreate it. So that's the problem. Well, you were recently saying we need to cancel cancel culture. No, no, no, no, no. Bring that shit forth. Get me out of here. I'm going to try something real quick, but I probably shouldn't try since I'm losing my voice. But ready? This is a, this is this is bad audio. But. It's been a while since I have leverage day.

I have tools. It's been a while. It was play on something KJ said four minutes ago. It's been a while. I just had to get it in. I know that. I know how pathetic. I'm sorry, Dylan.

You know how pathetic I am, David? Because I know where you got inceptioned with that. Uh-huh. And I was workshopping that earlier today. Like, how can I shoehorn this in? Because it's a bit I love. We both saw the same Instagram story. And I'm like, it's that DFW.

early 2000s brain haven't even talked about it but i knew exactly where he saw it and i'm like man i've been wanting to work in some aaron lewis in my podcasting right now dylan you're always sending me erin lewis takes you're always like dude this guy is the best takes i don't know who aaron lewis i'll keep it i'll keep it you're like dude i really like where he's where he's pivoted who is erin lewis he's the lead singer of one of uh okay you gave it to him okay i was going to say i was I see, could you figure out which band? I'm glad I don't know who that is. Yes.

Stained. Stained. Uh, early member of the, uh, Stain was on the Family Values Tour. I missed that, I missed that stained wave somehow. They have a song that I wouldn't be shocked if you liked. All right. But he's since pivoted to, uh, heavy grifting. Oh, no.

Heavy country grift. Country grift. Uh-huh. Okay. He's on the rock, the nation tour. honestly 50-50 yeah yeah who knows you don't see him without his black rifle

black rifle coffee i'll tell you that there's a bunch of those off of uh 35 you hit a you exit like hillsborough or something you got you a black rifle coffee you can go brick and mortar love that shout out mortars and bricks and bricks bricks might be needing to learn bricks here in the next few years folks

where is brett by the way geopal okay i appreciate that we're all doing different things we're all in different ways just volume shooting don't carry the show for six seconds as i shut the door Dave's gonna go shut the door um and it's on me for the next six seconds to fill some air uh oh dave all toot it up walking over there like that oh wow oh now he's prancing back man welcome back to

the show, Dave. Good job. Hold on Don. Dylan Schivry. Man, I'm pretty stoked about today's show. Got KJ in here, man. Really, after the first seven minutes? Just kidding. Yeah. Oh, I'm finishing my glove today. That's what I want to talk about.

The glove is probably 15, 20 minutes away from completion. I'm so stoked about it. Parks has a game tonight, which means I get to take it straight to action. I'm pumped. Are you worried about that first? at first ball. Dude, it's not. It's going right through the web.

It's very sound. It's game ready. It will be. How are you going to test it? By playing catch with Parks. Okay. Yeah. He doesn't exactly throw it, you know, 90 plus.

So I'm confident the glove's going to hold out. Okay. Yeah. It looks good. Thank you. Thank you. What's the end game? Just have it?

Are you going to, like, put it up in your office or something? I'm going to use it. This is going to be my gamer. I feel like, I don't know. I feel like you got to do something to commemorate it. Yeah, I don't know. You got to post an Instagram? Oh, yeah.

I'm going to do something cool with it. I don't know. I'm really excited for it, though. I'm actually kind of sad that the project is almost over because it's been a lot of fun. It's been a lot of fun. It's been cathartic. Oh, Dave can try it or not I can. That's a lot of stock.

A lot of syllables. It's been a lot of fun. I feel back because I laughed harder at the recreation of the recreation. That's good, Randy. Listener voicemails on Patreon drops tomorrow, as does our substack, which will be in your inbox. Go subscribe to wash.substack.com. Also, subscribe to our socials.

We're talking about, like, how pods are cooked or our pod is cooked. At least you can do to support the socials. It's a clip. world and we're posting more we're doing a lot more posting so go follow us on instagram um and our patreon also that's the best way to support the show call us circling back podcast i'm sorry i was going to interject a stupid joke call us j t the way we're posting j t posting j t posting yeah call for kj what yeah what's your uh you got any jt posting takes i've got a tab open researching if peter pan

put putt, whatever, the mini golf place there in Austin has batting cages. I'm not sure they do. They do not. Because my brain was just

fully dialed in on the thought that like, similar to you bringing some clubs to top golf being like, let me see how these puppies play. Like, Dylan just pulls off to the side on the way home one day and it's like,

you know what? I've got a few extra coins to the batting cage here. We test this glove out. Like not testing out the swing. Just fully just heating it up to test the cloth. That's an all-time Dork move getting in a batting cage with a glove just to catch balls.

It'd be practical, but I also would make fun of whoever do it. How many friends do you have that throw it exactly where you need it to be and at the exact MPA you need? What I usually do when I see a batting cage like that is I just go standing there and I just take fastballs to the chest to toughen up for hockey season. Don't you sometimes go in and like turn around and bend over? What the fuck? What is your fucking problem? Hey, I don't do that. KJ, you got to go to Ellen's Fairway.

Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm a little lost, but my brain's in the wrong place. Cedar Hill. Okay. Go car. I'm on the same page. Go cart paintball. South of, uh, south of CHS or whatever.

Yes. Go car paintball also batting cages, arcade, a frequent place for birthday parties back in the day. I was a put put put, uh, aficionaut. being Arlington, Arlington, uh, located. But same way. Yeah, the baseball glove thing. I have this fear that maybe David's not framing a sphere, but like, yeah, it looks beautiful. I do wonder about the fail rate.

There has to be another dad out there like at a game. You're like, hey, can you just smoke one over here real quick? I just want to make sure I'm not going to hit in the face unexpectedly. It's zero percent failure rate. I mean, if you do it the right way, and I am, it's going to work. It has no choice but to work. I trust you. I mean, again, I know nothing.

I can't tie a knot beyond my shoes. So, like, I feel like there are people out there with skills that escape my brain, much like glove weaving. I'm so thinking of you walking into the batting cage and doing that. Just catch it balls. I can find a friend to play catch with instead. And you're just, you're like, you're like catching it real cocky, you're flipping it up to your hand to throw it.

Just tossing to the side waiting for the next one. Yeah. You're like, oh, man. I'm sure. A trip playpoints though. Before we get into it, I want to say there's a product that I'm a big fan of as everyone is here. It's a new, it's a semi-new sponsor. KJ, you got to try them out because I know you're a, your guy likes to have a nice glass of wine every now and then check out.

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You know, I did not see the visual aid. I saw the original source, but I will, I'll search that up real quick, unless Randy has it available to share. I apologize. Yeah, I got it ready for you. Yeah. I did read the sauce material, if you will. Someone, we got a call yesterday, a little tease on the Patreon listener voicemails.

Um, guy who made this said he got a little high, went on the Reddit and made every washed or a bunch of washed personalities into ice cream flavors. We posted it and got a lot of action on Instagram. Go check it out. But, uh, two notable omissions were, uh, KJ and Micah. And I want to give KJ, uh, a chance to react and maybe dub himself a flavor. And maybe, uh, we'll give him the honors of dub and mica a flavor. Oh, that's going to be tough. Hard to pin down.

First and foremost, I did, you know, full disclosure. I felt a little bit of shade. No offense to Barrett. Love Barrett. Tremendous human being. Great dude. Full glaze, all that. But for Barrett to make the guess list first, I get it.

I get it. You know, still still doing retail therapy. But just saying, just saying. hit your boy with moose tracks are you aware with what moose tracks i love moose tracks remind me i've heard of it moose tracks which i've learned has a few different names across brands or whatever there's one up here that does like badger tracks or whatever you know down there i'm sure you have like bevo tracks or some shit um but essentially it is usually some sort of fudge some sort of caramel some sort of mini rhes cup mixed in there oh

And I'm not usually like go all out. Like I don't do stone cold creamery or whatever. I don't ever fuck things up when I go to an ice cream place. I say, give me a milkshake. Keep it simple. But if I'm getting like a whatever pint that's going to be in the freezer, like I'm going all the way. I'm going to be the furthest from the silent killer that Dylan respects so much.

I've definitely had moose tracks now that you say it. I don't know if there is a regional equivalent. But it does sound really good. I was shocked with how many people were like, this is actually dead on. This is accurate. Because it wasn't what we like. It's what this represents us as ice cream.

And you... When I read this, I didn't take anything away. Like, I got the obvious like, okay, Dylan's is low sugar. I get it. But like most of the other ones, I was like, I have no clue. It was funny. It was well done. It's exactly the type of behavior.

exactly the type of behavior you want when you're a little, uh, you know, got a little CBD in the cis, but I feel like they all fit though, unless you're out on pistachio and what, you know, I can see you saying that like, you're going to be like, oh, hit me with some, uh, bourbon pecan or some shit. No, but I was thinking like a coffee, uh, flavored might have been good. I'm surprised that maybe that's Micah. I don't know, but that that would have been a, that's an omission, but they don't have like a monster energy drink flavored ice cream to my knowledge but if so i would be happy to put that for micah what do you think might be like a rocky road port what about a rocky road for micah i don't know why that's jumping out of me like they should be

on there somewhere and he he's kind of nutty you know that's fair that fits i'm glad that you didn't give me rocky road that was the one where i'm like i've got to stay away from it a i don't like marshmallows be at it and like the Oreo uh, uh, uh, implication. Um, yeah, I don't know. It was like a whole thing like I feel like you got to give something like I want to say foe, but similar to wills where you got to go like I don't say tries to be fancy. Everything I'm going to say sounds backhanded. Uh, I'm going to say sounds backhanded. Uh, I'm like up. Yeah. You got to go more Johnny Dallas with it with marshmallows. Yeah. I see what you're going for there. No, I get it.

What is it almond? It's in? What's in, what's in Rock? What's the nut? There's a nut in there, right? Is it almond? I think it might be a pekin. One of the two, I think. Are you sure it's not peaking? We're not doing pekin? What is it? How does the Midwesterners say it? Pekin? What? What are you telling? Everyone says it. Pekon. Pekon. I think we saw it. We saw it. we say more pecans. Yeah.

But it's pecan pie. We know that much. It's not pecan. So you can pecan? Chat has the answer. And then pecan pie? Mm-hmm. Does that make any sense?

I think it's interchangeable. Pecan and pecan. It's like Caribbean, Caribbean. It just depends on when you're saying it. Randy, do you have any second thoughts about the cruise? Because of the virus. We talked about it yesterday, yes.

We'll see. What's a concern level here? I've been it's all over the TL for me. People already tweet tweeting out like a non-medical professionals are already treating tweeting out medical advice. So it's it's that's got me highly arm raised. I've seen that. Yeah.

Yeah. Getting throwing around the cure all drug apparently. Yeah, I'm actually like pretty concerned about it I think. Round two. The chat does have. have an answer on the Micah flavor. Randy, if you see that from Juliet. As in, as in, are you talking about Micah would be soft serve, but the soft serve machine doesn't work?

That's pretty good. Micah is affigato, but you've got to say it's super or over the top of an auction. Yeah. That's actually a good one. Yeah. That's, I think that's spot on. And there you go with your coffee option. How do you spell it?

How do you spell it? I don't know. Don't ask you. I don't know if that's correct. G-A-T-O is how they spelled it. Off-ogato. Yeah, he will. Off-O-G-O-G-O-G-O.

Hey, when you're losing your voice, your mic-g just doesn't hit the same. Oh, fuck-off. Yeah, that's a good, that's a good pick for me. Yeah. A little backhanded, but okay. Tremendous. You know, I like it better than the soft serve,

which is kind of insulted. It's mildly insulting. What a treat. But it's great to be here. Always a treat. Always a pleasure. Okay, Jay. Looking like a snack.

What a treat. Oh, I missed the lodge. Lodge days are the best. Goaded. Goaded. Okay. Well, yeah, my sister even, like, shout out to my sister, is texting me.

She's like, oh, my God, this is perfect. They nailed it. And I was like, they did? I was like, I mean, it's good. I just, all right. I think mainly this, I'm in my own head because I just don't know where to, what to make a pistachio, hoss.

Pistachio. Pistachio. You can't be upset about the hoss. Haas part. No, no, no. No, it is. I was like, man, pistachio, it's just like, it's so up to interpretation. Because some people are like pistachio.

And other people are like, pistachio, it's like the meme. Verbal meme I did. Do you like pistachio? I do not. Maybe part of it is I've maybe had it once and it didn't make enough of an imprint on me to have a take. I love pistachios. I do too.

Don't like the ice cream. I love coffee. Don't like coffee flavored stuff. Do you like your pistachios? Shios from California or Iran? California. I always, I try to buy domestic when I can't do. Interesting. I also get my peaches from Georgia.

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Fucking Dan, dude. Dan's got a, Dan's, Dan's Forrest Gump in the Manosphere. He really is. If you know, you know, I know this. I wore my poncho today. Nobody said anything, but I'm wearing it. And that's for two reasons. I'm going to dinner tonight, and I'm also just, I like being comfortable.

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The Vrabel Rossini story, another, another layer to it has hit the timeline. It gets worse. It's, it's one that you kind of hope would, I think everybody was over it, like, not over it, but like sick of it because it just was getting gross. It's getting grosser, sadly. And now it's just weird. I don't know how confirmed this report is, but, uh, so we're going to, we're going to slap the big old allegedly tag on it. allegedly these two went on a uh they rented a boat together just the two of them when she was seven months pregnant um interesting interesting there um it feels like a baby moon that's like baby moon

timing for a trip seven months into a pregnancy i didn't even think about that angle clearly she would be showing by that point she'd have a bump yeah seven months i mean she might have glowing probably going it's kind of prime time if that's not your kid that she's pregnant with it would be it would be weirder than if it were his kid am i wrong no it's it's like i'm i don't know like i read this yesterday i was like oh that's disgusting it's like okay there's like first level one it's like a fair like oh it's bad level two be going on for six plus years a long time Yeah. Level three, one of the kids has his name.

Level four, it's like, boat, private boat, seven months. People have timestamped her visits. Allegedly. Her visits to report on Titans games when he was the Titans head coach. And she was around the Titans organization nine months before the delivery of each of her children. Oh, of each of them? Yes.

I mean, man, these poor kids. By the way, the story is TMZ and the New York Post are both running this story. Okay. TMZ, as we know, doesn't get anything incorrect. Nope. You're being boss, saying. Yeah, this is more, this is T plus. No, dude. I would, I would, you know, if he would like already lost his job or resigned, it'd be like,

like, okay, we don't really need to talk about this, but like, I really think there's a good chance he's not, there's a good chance he doesn't, he resigns like in the next year. On what grounds? Just the distraction. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Not saying that he should, but I'm just saying like the, I have become so much of a distraction as there's like a slow release of, of this stuff. Like if this, you know what I'm saying? Like, just when you think it's done, it's like, okay, they go to camp. and it's like, by the way, there's, you know, this other crazy element that it's, I don't know. I'm not saying he should, by the way. I'm just saying it is very like, I absolutely agree.

Distraction is a real thing. It's gotten so bad. I mean, if you're giving press conferences and then reporters are like constantly asking you about it, like that's enough of a distraction, I think, right there. It's a bad, it's bad, dude. The fans are going to have a field day, too, opposing team fans. I mean, so what? like that here's a man so i i want to stop short of like i'm not defending the action i mean can we agree to like have discussion under that context kind of sounds like i'm not here actually

i'm not here advocating for the actions to be very very clear first question would we feel any different if it was erin and i'm asking that intentionally uh oh i'm i'm going to go ahead I didn't say I think cheating's bad no matter who it is. Okay. I get it, dude. Wait, why, why does that change things?

I'm saying like similar to the, um, you get an outrage when you see teacher, student story teachers male and you're like, disgusting horrific. You know, unless 22 year old female teacher, 17 year old student.

You're like, okay, bad, but then you're also judging the, the visual of the person. I do seriously wonder, like, if Aaron Andrews was the subject matter here, like erasing her history with, with, you know, not her fault stuff. But I feel like if people were more like they see Diana, Rossini or whatever, and they think like, oh, hot sideline reporter. I think they see Rossini and they think reporter or whatever. Like they're not thinking about like, oh, man, good for him.

And I think that plays a factor into how people are like framing this story. and like their interest levels because the continued interest to Dylan's point, like is there a distraction to the team? I don't think so in May. Like I don't think it matters. I think it mattered before the draft when people would see them and the press conferences that surrounded it. That's why like the day three thing happened because you've got to do another press

conference after the draft. So it wasn't like him not being there mattered except for he wasn't going to be at the press conference. Like yeah, they evaded that. But like are people about to roll into training camp? in August and September. They'll ask the questions for a week or so. After game one, preseason game one, are they really going to keep asking them?

So, hey, what about that boat? And is Robert Kraft going to do anything about it? I know what he's going to do. If there is a paternity test and if it's revealed that he actually is the father of at least one of her kids, I think that's enough to like accelerate this thing into like uncontrollable, like have to have to have to. force a resignation it's not a he didn't play there he's not coaching notre dame though he's coaching in the nfl like this isn't a catholic like religious institution we're talking about here you're right but like i think the i think the onus is on his spouse and her spouse and their awareness and and like

i don't say compliance with the or complicity here but again we haven't heard anything so until proof and otherwise like i think it's detrimental i think it's problematic i think it's terrible But I really don't. It's not a team I care about. You know what I mean? Like if it were the Jags coach, I probably would be defending it even more so. And right now I'm like,

it won't matter. I guarantee it won't matter September 7th. A couple things. If it was Aaron Andrews, I don't think that really changes the dynamic, although they do have different positions, different roles. Like Aaron Andrews is a sideline reporter.

That's true. A journalist in some capacity, but she's also on air. She's on air talent. No, I think that's a tremendous difference. I agree. But also like, but like him residing not because like, okay, so even like the distraction to the team, whatever, but also like him like being like, I kind of got to get my

personal life in order, you know, coaches, I mean, everybody knows like coaching in college, high level college or high level or in the NFL, which is the highest level, you're away from your family a lot. Like you hear that. Like you're sleeping up, you know, you always hear that. the trope it's like oh you know i'm sleeping up there i'm pounding film blah blah blah uh with this going on and you're trying to salvage your personal life your family life that's a lot to juggle and then like if you start you know once the divorce proceedings start on either end then it

starts getting you start going to discovery stuff starts coming out more stuff the texts phone records all that stuff comes out and it's just like drags on and it's like, man, that's a, that's a lie. Again, I am not saying like, no, he, he needs a step down now. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like, if it happened, I would not be shocked. It's probably not likely. It's not likely. I always say that. But if when it happens, I'm not going to be like, I can't believe that's how this ended. No, I agree. I think you're saying like, hey, this is in, in motion to head that direction that I can understand. Divorces are famously not. It should be happened. Like in the public eye.

Like this stuff you see it you saw with like not Johnny Depp was a different thing but like you know what I mean it's the way this stuff and TMZ is going to have correspondence there in the core it's just a whole thing so let me say this. I should also disclose I do sound like somebody who spent months defending urban Meyer so maybe I maybe I should also put that on my record and realize like maybe the problem is my trend of feeling strongly in defense of these people for no reason at all you are a big urban even in urban mire well i feel like up until the firing i was like i didn't care for what it's worth cali calci has a 23 percent chance that he resigns before game one you have to

disclose that you're a calci partner i'm not a calci partner what's it 23 percent 23 percent chance that he resigns by game one. MJ. 23, the number 23. That's not nothing. It's almost like 25% a quarter. One and four.

I feel justified my 77% argument here then. There we go. What happens when like his kids stop talking to him though because he's a dirty cheater? Do you think that's going to be a distraction? Not as it pertains to his

job. At home, sure. What do you think the better? percentage of NFL coaches are with like terrible father-son relationships because I mean I saw a picture of John Cruden's kid the other day and that didn't look great. I think they are close actually. But Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson has been pretty outspoken about how like when he was like at his best in the 90s with the boys like he neglected his his family. Like he was away all the time because he was just dialed. I got an internet now though. It's a modem joke. we can do that folks not a lot of pods doing modem jokes but we are and I kind of

and this man wasn't worthy of an ice cream flavor come on I just I don't know for everyone's sake I just hope this goes quietly into the night and the kids are actually the husband of Diana Rossini and but

I think we just catch castrate him and get be done with it. All right. What? A castration? Yeah. I don't know. That's not very nice.

Yeah. All things involved were consensual, it sounds like, just extramarital. I don't know if we need to cut his unit off. Like castration's extreme. Yeah, I don't know. I always feel like we talk about, you know, maybe we don't. I don't know. Because if you like, there's probably, we've got a big Patriots contingency.

Shout to everybody you found us through New England Weekly. and they're probably like, oh, you're piling on the Patriots, man. The only, well, fuck, hey, kid, you fuck, hold on. I got no beef with the Patriots here. Oh, this kid's fucking wrecking on Vrabel because the Patriots, kid.

Yeah, kid. No, it's just like, it's a big store, I don't know. It takes over my timeline. So, you know, I'm not trying to be on a soapbox. I'm just trying to look at realistic outcomes. I think it's conversation-worthy. I just happen to also, like, banana ball and think it's not a big deal. I'm just picking unnecessary. And Bryson, don't,

don't bother me. In Bryson, that's true. I do realize that I've got a couple like opposing positions with Dylan. Dude, by the way, my mentions were lit up yesterday because of my tweet about was it live bots? It could be bots. I don't know, but a lot of people called me stupid. Oh. Yeah. And said that he's actually very well liked, especially among younger kids. So there's a There's a quote So you know Kevin Kisner's

He does the foreplay pod now It's the Barstool Golf podcast He has a he was talking about like One of the Rider Cup teams he was on I don't know he was like probably an assistant captain This last one with uh And Bryson's on it And he said they had a group chat

And there was one phone That wasn't an iPhone Of course Of course Who do you think it was? Dude That is so absolutely perfect. It's the most price of thing you could ever imagine.

It's so perfect. Man. To his credit, I think he went out and bought an iPhone just for the group chat. Okay. Which I respect. But yeah, that's so perfect. If he is more like aligned with the youth, I think it just makes sense why Dylan does like a banana ball, dude perfect. Bryson, look at your draft.

Like, you just hate kids? Do you hate kid stuff? I got no beef with dude perfect. I think there's an egregious misstep in the, uh, The little sats video that they stole. But I got no hate for those guys. They seem like they're good dudes. I mean, I'm boys with all of them.

Banana ball. Yeah, I hate banana ball. What's banana ball? It's the Savannah Banana's Baseball League, of course. They call it banana ball. Randy sent me a viral video from the guy who started it. And yes, he does apparently wear a yellow suit and a yellow hat. Yes, he does.

Yeah. All the old time. Oh, the video. He carries a yellow microphone too when he addresses the crowd. Oh, so he's part of the show. Oh, he's very much. He's like the, uh, body. He's the remediator.

He's basically the MC. Yeah. Oh, all right. Well, good for him. That video was. Oh, yeah. Because it was him in the stands at Kyle Field and just you can see how packed it was. Nuts.

I don't know. So people were pointing out correctly or incorrectly, like had, had the bananas played their game at a different stadium like in Austin. Like maybe the one of the guys on this show would be saying, talking completely different. for it. What? No, no. Not at all. I mean, Texas has an artificial turf.

They couldn't have done it there. They laid dirt down and everything on Kyle Field. One time the Rangers, when the range, KJ, remember this when the Rangers were playing at their good stadium, the ballpark in Arlington? They did the thing where they let, they turned the outfield. They put greens out there and let people,

I don't know who it was, like some exhibition come hit golf shots from like a hit wedge. from like the suites or whatever. Yeah. And it like, you could see it like where it was the entire season in the outfield. It never, it never completely went away. Yeah. And it's just like how did we allow this?

It's like old like candlestick park where they used to have, when football season came around, it overlapped with baseball season. And he had just the dirt infield out there. Remember that? Yeah. Completely, completely insane as a kid to see that. It was weird. It fried my brain.

But you got. Randy. It's just a video so I can show Dylan just how crazy this is. And KJ, you know what? I'll let you watch it too. I'm doing no audio, but yeah. It's a visual show. Just look at how packed this stage.

Yeah, 102,000 people. Look, they're doing something right. People love it. Must be doing something right. I don't like the cowboy hat. Like, go with the bowler hat. that's his look stick with your look you don't need to go cowboy since he was uh

you know in Texas fucking I get it I get it I've got a cowboy cheese head hat somewhere around here and I hate it He's in Texas I can tear Buy the hat Did you see Casey did Green Hall? Yeah Yes

Do you think about coming down for it? If there was a Casey Musgrave story Where I could click to the next one Because I hadn't checked him long enough it's a good day. Your boy's up on Casey when Casey's up on the internet. How about that? Did you see her going around in an armadillo costume to all the different stores?

Yes. Okay. Yeah. He's the hottest thing I've ever seen. Is that, you're like, what show am I up on? I'm like,

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to go all right i was refreshing up on uh the other thing i always like to get an objective a neutral detached magistrate uh or or podcaster if you will to review the uh what we did maybe give your takes um You're more of Dylan and I's age range. But how old are you? What are you? Like 37? I'm 39. Okay.

So a few years younger. I think Will and I are very close in age. This is where I fall. First and foremost, I would like to say I'm probably the most qualified to speak on this as some out there may know. First podcast I did was like entirely focused on nostalgia. It was called partial recall. This is kind of my lane.

I look at this list and I see like, I don't know, two thirds of the episodes I probably did. So I stretched this into like a year's worth of content. So I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this. So first question I have before I begin giving my feedback is what was the draft style who had first pick or we snake or not? We are snake. I had first pick. This is the best I could do with AI.

It actually is read it. Just read it from right to left. Right to left. Right to left. And he had first pick and then it was a snake. So right. You didn't do it wrong. That was the,

the list I received was upside down if that were the case too. So you're okay. All right. So you had first pick. So you're telling me with a dead ass straight face one one on this entire draft list, which we're categorizing as shows from our youth essentially. Shows we grew up on. Well.

Okay. It was, it was a whole. There's a whole. Yeah. I just want to make sure we don't, we don't clarify. We're not like,

qualifying this is like this was the best show that I recall from my youth. Uh, no, it is. Let me tell you something here, KJ. If I, being born 94 and if I didn't pick this, like everyone had been against me. And it is, it is by far. It has the best memes. It has the best vocal stems. And I know what SpongeBob is. I'm not that old. I've got a younger brother. I get it. I've been to school of people wearing SpongeBob fucking pajamas for years. I get it. Yeah. it's not a good show though that's that's wrong the content of it's pretty fucking mid wrong but hey absolutely wrong i respected it meant a lot to you um he's a lot to a lot of people you redeem yourself later in the list i know fairly odd appearance was huge uh and it still is i think

i recently saw one of those um man on the street type things where uh football team will be like hey ask the same basic question to players as they're going on the field a lot of SMU players had fairly eye appearance is like their favorite show. So I get that resonates with like even severe, you know, significantly younger. Do you think it was Rishi Rice's favorite? Okay. I'm not, I'm not touching that. Uh, that's a Richland Royal great. Um, to be clear. Um, um, Rocket Power. I wasn't familiar with my name. I'd look it up, but I do know it. Same like design. And I'm, I'm doing this all Randy right now for a reason because I, I think this can kind of be set apart due to the age difference here.

Wasn't familiar with it, but I do know that same people did Rugrats and maybe Hey, Arnold, like the design looks similar. No, no opinion. Sweet Life of Zach and Cody, similar to fairly odd appearance, not my cup, but I know it's big to some people. I'm also all, well, I'm about to fucking ruin that. I was going to say I'm all the way out on like Disney actual live action shows. And for the most part, I am.

Yeah, that's right. I respect it. They were huge in that era. I like cartoons. I have again, everything I said about Casey. Echo that for Hillary Duff, but I don't know that I've ever seen Liz McGuire start to finish. So like,

it just wasn't my cup of team. Pokemon have fucked with. You redeem yourself, the rest of them made up with entirely because I was absolutely on the wall for episode one through whatever of the original 151 on Pokemon. We've covered. that in the past.

You get you get a B minus on your list. I'm not going to go line by line with the others. Let's move over to Dan since Dan's not with us. Dan's highlights here pretty clear. I think everyone, uh, super glazes, uh, legends of the hidden temple. I love the concept. If you try to rewatch it, it does not hold up. He should have went with guts.

There's no question about it. Guts is the better play. Ooh. Guts was good. All around better play. Global guts or guts is where you've got to go. Like don't get me wrong. I love the thought of like, hey, this was a cool.

Halloween costume similar to like cool running is a Halloween costume that people appreciate years later but the content on the show is always very mid the kids are super nerdy it's not as good as double dare or guts like you go a different path huh you say that black cool running costume bombed I'm not gonna do it not gonna do it shouldn't warn the dreadlocks so I'll stop there um Boy Meets World goaded. Nothing bad to say about it. If you meet and or know or listen to Will, you feel like you've seen every episode of Boy

Meets World. I feel like he emulates a lot of content out of that show, just in his day-to-day personality. I mean that with love. Loved it. Rocko's Modern Life is also a fucking banger off this list. I don't know how it was his fifth choice. I don't know how y'all let that slip. I feel like that would have been like the one on Dylan's list that I could have seen making

an appearance because they also did Renan Stimpe. Dude, I've never heard of that show. Of Rockos? You might not know the name, but you probably have seen it pop up. There are three on Rannys list and three on Dan's list that I have never heard of. It wasn't even like you missed the era so much, but I think Ren and Stimpy you're familiar with for sure. Oh, yeah.

Like you know the concept. I do a good run. That came from Rocko's Modern Life. Am I off with that? I believe I'm accurate there. This is the bring any bells? Or no. Am I fucking that up?

Those characters are not. I'm gonna be fucking that up. Hey Arnold had the football head, right? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't fuck with Hey Arnold. That's why I kind of skipped. I respected it.

It was a big banger, but it just wasn't in my. Cablam was the one show off, Dan, so no one knew or Randy might. I haven't even looked it up. Haven't even looked up. So, all right,

over to the heavy hitters here. So this is where I actually wanted like crown a winner or nah. I do think that nothing screams more of like, there's not even an age. divide between the two lists, but it is pretty clear of like one person likes their coffee black. And I don't even know that that's really accurate here. But Dylan's list is about as quintessential Dylan. However, I would never have guessed that Jerry Springer made in a fucking appearance. I would have guessed like Fred McGriff's swinging practice video would have been on the list before Jerry Springer.

Dude, Jerry Springer was like that show that like you felt like you weren't supposed to be watching as a kid. So like I'll be flipping the channel like, oh, my mom. And my mom, you know, she's not, she's not in living room with me. So I'm going to watch it. Don't that's your entire list, except for baseball tonight. It's a lot of shows. You're not going to watch it. Sign photo is very much a family show for us.

Like I said, we like we, it was appointment television. I never watched it with my family, but at some point, somebody told me it was supposed to be really, really funny or right when like, this doesn't make us sound all this fuck. Right when you were able to buy. full series of shows. Sopranos was the first one out there, maybe Sex in the City, and then Seinfeld was one. And the Seinfeld sets what I got. So I probably have those laying around here somewhere, have seen the first like five or six or seven seasons a hundred times, all in. I'm saying all this just to give myself time to appreciate Wild on. I don't know if we've talked about this in the past. I think we'd probably mention Brooke Burke is a throwaway. There's nothing

bad about the beats that have occurred out of like knowing that brook burke exist in this world but it absolutely would be the height of all of these shows if i was like which one gave me the most joy in over the years yes dude it was it was electric television as a little kid who like was you know gaining interest in the fairer sex at that age i was like this is i'm just so i'm looking at on this oh yeah i was in love with brook burr i don't know if the concept of travel show existed to me until I saw that. And they had like a editing problem with they would do voiceovers like you'd see on HGTV nowadays and they'd be talking about whatever. And they would mention a place, welcome to Tulum where the sandy beaches and they would never

show a beach. It would always be hot chick usually butts at that moment. And so my dad's joke always is he would say he would refer to any time you see like a scantily clad woman on TV or public like oh sandy beaches here because we would sit there on you know divorced dad weekends and in between like you know NFL cook off and sunday morning breakfast like wild on would be on be like oh we'll catch 20 minutes of that it wasn't like a super like you know uncomfortable thing looking back probably a strange time to be watching wild on with your kid but whatever um shouts to that and then i think surprising nobody i probably my list would have probably probably looked a lot more like Dave's.

If put on the spot and I was just naming things from that era that I absolutely fucked with. Hey, Hey dude's the only question because there's not a lot of episodes. I hate dude. Dave went heavy hitters on this. Yeah. And I could have grabbed a lot of these obviously because, you know, I picked before him many times. But I, you know, I decided to stick to my true self knowing that I left some really heavy hitters on the board.

And Dave just snatched them all off. I was true to myself as well For the record These are the shows I watched I just wanna And I watched all of these Well I didn't really watch Doug I can appreciate Doug

I caught a few of them here and there I wasn't a big Doug kid But the rest of them I was all the way in it I disagree I think there's only two heavy hitters On there say about the bell And Fresh Prince

Sleager Shorts is still Hey dude definitely niche Slager Shorts He was slightly higher than that Hey dude was pretty mainstream I think I don't maybe it's just because it's so old Because like what do we say

1989? Yeah I was gonna say I don't think Dan, I even knew what Hey Dude was. Hey, Hey, dude might have been at the time, but like most, I would say, it's not a show that people under 35 remember. Doug, Doug was big. Doug felt big. So Doug might be a heavy hitter.

And, but, yeah, I, I don't know. It's weird because, like, hey, dude's the one I remember the least of. And it makes sense because I was like five and six when I was watching it. Maybe, like, maybe I was watching it in syndication a couple years later. The reason you probably have it on here, and I'd have to fact check myself and I'm pulling this from again, partial recall notes, is similar to Clarissa explains it all. And Pete and Pete, which those two shows you may be familiar with, Melissa Joan Hart was in Clarissa. Those two ran back to back. And they would always package them back to back.

I don't know if there was some network plan for that. But like as a kid, and when you were like, okay, I'm getting home at 3.30. and you know you've got like an hour, hour and a half. You know what, whatever three shows you're going to catch. My list probably had like Power Rangers on it. The Goosebump Show or Are You Afraid of the Dark would have made an appearance for my five somewhere on here. But hey, dude and Salute Your Shorts got packaged together.

So I think when some people who've seen one, they say the other. And I mean, if you go back and watch them, it's been a few years since I have, Salute Your Shorts, this probably holds up a little bit better. But again, we're talking about two shows that combine have like 30 episodes out there. There was an episode or a scene in Soluter Shorts where a girl gets like, they're playing softball. And I don't know. Kid was like trying to throw her out at second and she was rounding second. I don't remember how it happened, but get smoked with the batting helmet on.

And like, I just remember being like fully traumatized. Like, oh, man. Helmets like fully dented. They like over like did it. And they were just trying to say she had a concussion. was like the whole thing because then her memory was off for some shit. But yeah, that was one of the few things that kept me out of being.

Also, do you remember the Zeke the Plummer? Yes. Zeke the Plummer's overly creepy. That traumatized me as a kid. So I had to put it on there. There was a, uh,

uh, a Sanlot-esque episode where they were trying to retrieve a quarter that was like in a, um, AC vent. And they were trying to like manufacture way to retrieve it. So they can call back into the radio show in Wednesday. and win some tickets. And I don't know why that stuck with me, mostly because it was like, I don't have,

I don't know what the equivalent of that would be nowadays where like you've got some low stakes opportunity to be like, oh, shit, I was right about that. And maybe it's like hopping in the chat of like a Twitch or a podcast nowadays, but like, I'm not going to sit here and say I call out of radio stations, but I was all in on like, oh, do you know this random bit of trivia? I was nerding out like that shit. if the radio was on. Did you watch Save by the Bell?

Yeah, of course. 100%. Okay. All right. Yeah. I thought you're you, I thought you'd have, you know, obviously,

you've got the Pokemon angle. Boy Meets World was a good pull from Dan. But yeah, I figure you'd skew more, toward us and, you know, wild on as a guy who's also extremely horny. I figure you'd appreciate that. If Dylan's first big.

Again, I don't, I only did. I didn't talk about Fresh Prince or Save by the Bell much because I think they're givens. We all know they're great. You know, fresh Prince means a lot. It's hard to, like, admit how much I loved Will Smith growing up nowadays. It's very strange. Like, the biggest, most important celebrity ever.

Because he's a psychopath. And it's very clear publicly. It's very strange to be like, man, that guy was my fucking, like not hero. But you know what I mean? Like I, I don't know. If I was to ever feel like it's a kid like, oh, could I get away with dressing like insert whatever? I would be like, oh, look at what Will Smith had. Yeah.

On. And that would be the route I go. So I was a big, big fan. But again, I never beat off to fucking wild, uh, to fresh prints. He didn't even have to cuss in his wraps to sell records. he didn't yeah i owned i owned too many of them i owned at least two or three and that's embarrassing okay well thank you uh thank you for for opining on that and also thank you yeah for leveraging AI tools it took it took it took quite a while but yeah well i couldn't get it to i couldn't get it

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sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com slash circling. That's better, h-elp.com slash circling. A couple notes on stories that are just drip, drip, drip, dripping away that we used to Yeah. The cycle. The JP Morgan Chase thing. You can see this, KJ? You follow on this?

I'm loosely aware. Can you give me the 1,000 foot view real quick? I had it pulled up before we did show talk. Guy follows a lawsuit claiming that his superior was basically, like, sexually assaulting him. like in in pretty ridiculous ways and said racist remark about his uh Asian wife and called her boobs cannons that was that's what grabbed everyone's attention and then it was later revealed that he fabricated the entire story allegedly allegedly um the next layer to it was was what um okay so he got yes he was

John Doe in the lawsuit. They filed the lawsuit. Then they pulled the lawsuit. And then J.P. Morgan, they went on the attack and they started saying, no, this guy, this guy wasn't a good employee. He lied about it. He allegedly lied about his father passing away so he could get bereavement leave of three months. And then like the New York Post went and found the guy's dad proving he was alive. So they clearly have a connection with the post. Not shocking. It's like the biggest bank. then you find out that he has got he now has the eps one of the epstein plaintiff's attorneys uh representing him and then you find out that earlier um before this all went public they offered him like a a mil like one million dollar settlement and he he said no he was asking for i think

seven or eight times what they offered so he turned that down a million dollars to you know just regular blue-collar Joe's like us might be a lot, but to, you know, he's a Wall Street banker guy. It's a sociopaths. Not that much. So, yeah, now you find out he's got this high, high hitter, heavy hitter attorney representing him. So it's good get ugly. If it gets to discovery, second time discoveries come up. That's usually when the, that's usually when the stuff comes out.

That's how the discovery works. But yeah, they offered him, they said, according to sources, familiar with the case, J.P. Morgan offered $1 million to drop it. He refused and demanded a payout north of 20 million. So it was more than I initially said. This is all from the New York Post. Yeah, this new attorney's represented multiple women with claims against Epstein. And here we go.

Yeah. So does this imply that there might be like he's like digging in its heels a bit and being like, well, actually, you know, this isn't fabricated? Yeah. I he's depending on how you look at it he's kind of backed into a corner he's probably not I don't know how good he is at this uh it being a I don't know what kind of banking he does but he's not very hireable he's high profile enough now that he's been outed and like it looks like they're painting him as a bad guy so it's like all right well I'm gonna just keep pushing this until they offer me okay they offered me a million I said I want a 20 million how about we meet somewhere in the middle Shout out to Ariana Grande. Yes.

Aaron Morris. So I don't know. Yeah, it looks like he's, yeah, you get this guy on, you know it's going to be hell for the bank and the bank's going to make it hell on him. It's ugly. Eventually it settles out of court.

So nobody has to get their secrets exposed. That's the hope for him. Yeah. And this guy will take a cut. This attorney and go on. I just need to know whether or not she called her boobs cannons. That's really what we don't want to know here. That's the hope. Kind of exactly where my brain's been stuck since we first started recapping. It's like,

are we, uh, are we really going to find out that it was like not only was he offended that they called them that, but they were saying, uh, clearly look at the woman. She does not have canons. This would have never have been said. Like, are we going to go? I think you should leave with the discovery of like, I can't believe Raj thought we called his wife tease canets. Yeah. This will be, there's like, there's no way, but you talk about like TMZ being all over like a court case and this being on, you know, whatever court TV or whatever. I mean, this would be one that we're locked into. It's ugly.

it's also kind of just absurd it would be it would be funny if it did come out that she okay and she has to admit on the stand like okay I called them cannons sorry sorry I know it's weird in America if you're a woman

you can't call your own up tops cannons I guess I'm crazy and discovery they pour through like emails and texts right they do the whole thing don't oh yeah yeah so they're thinking like okay. If I'm them, I'm like,

all right, everything he's saying is bullshit, but stuff that's relevant to his claims, I'm like, what if it comes out? And like,

you know, Mike, Mike was calling Danny the Boner King and he doesn't know it. Randy's supposed to be the Boner King, self-described.

Well, just embarrassing things that come out. It's a mess. That's why you said a lot of court. Randy. Don't call me that. I'm gonna sue you now, David. What?

I think you called yourself. You did tell everybody that. No. No. I don't know how that came up. I want to know the original why the Bonar King came up. I genuinely don't know. It was from like last week.

Wasn't that true detective season one? We talk about a lot of dumb shit in here. It gets lost in the shuffle. That's podcasting, baby. That's life when you're a motherfucking podcaster. Okay. There it is. Let's talk about our weekends.

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slash circling. That's rocketmoney.com slash circling. Once again, rocketmoney.com slash circling. KJ, what you got? Fellows, as you mentioned earlier, it is Mother's Day weekend. We are, what, T-minus four days away? So I've got three and a half days before I begin figuring out what it is I will purchase. However, I will use the next few days to peruse all of the things that have been in my neighbors and surrounding areas houses as it is garage sale weekend here in Madison, Wisconsin.

We'll say. The problem with where I live is that garage sale weekend, a normal one would begin on what day would we say? Friday. Friday, yeah. Maybe, maybe Thursday. Nah, these bitches started rolling shit out yesterday morning. And they will be out there really, maybe until Sunday. Like, their goal is to sell out before Saturday afternoon.

So people just like get back to do another shit. Wow. But people take days off. And it is like vans. random old women walking around all the time fucking parking recklessly people's tv stands and kid play sets in the yards with like a 60% neighborhood participation but like go three neighborhoods over and that's how many fucking places just nonstop until Saturday so garage sale weekend baby just junk as far as the eye can see hell yeah sounds like wild on

Am I right? We've got a house down the street that's for sale and they've been doing the open house thing. And so you get like cars parked like down near us. And I see like these young couples that are going to look at it. And like I'm outside doing yard work. And I'm like, you know, they're probably scoping the neighborhood to see if there's kids or what the, you know, what the demographic is. If it's like, you know, dudes like me out there pulling weeds. And I'm always like, I should do like a bit.

I should like, I don't know. Not that I want, I don't want to scare anybody away. Like, what's the movie, stepbrothers? But like, I'm always like, I always try to put my best foot forward and like look like I've really got it together and like go out there like I'm really working in the yard. We'd love to have you guys, you know. I will say that one time I was looking for apartments in Chicago with my buddy before I moved. And there was a child, like 10 year old child on a unicycle and I went to him like, we can't move into these apartments over here. this is, I don't like this.

On a unicycle. I feel like that would have been the complete opposite reaction that I would expect it from me. Like, oh, no, bits are. Yeah, it threw me off. And I was like, we can't, we can't live by the unicycle kid. Please, that's everything. Somebody, somebody competing with you for wackiest person on the street.

Exactly. Like, a little, hit a little close to home to your childhood. You on a unicycle? No. Just juggling bowling pins. Exactly. Dude, if only there were like a, if one of them. If one there was like a baseball team, the guy would go up to the plate on a unicycle.

Now that I'd be all about. See, that's how you get Dylan to not move into your neighborhood. You put up a fucking bananas. There you go. A poster outside or whatever. You got the, you got the Savannah. The flag hanging on game days. Big one tonight, dude.

They got the tailgators, man. Big one tonight. Yeah, dude. They got the tailgators. They got some guys. To-gators got that dog dog. No, there has been a unicycle. at bat. You've seen it? It's out there. I heard, yeah. Nice. Also a guy on stilts. Yeah, I saw that one.

Dylan. Thanks for asking. Parks has, well, he's got a game tonight. Another game Saturday. That's the last game of the regular season before playoffs start. So it'll be a somewhat of a baseball weekend. Do I have anything for Friday? Nothing on wide, wide open. And of course, Sunday is Mother's Day. So Parks will obviously be with his mom that day. and just we went and saw my mom recently and I don't think we're going to go see her again. We might, though. We might do a little surprise trip out there out to the ranch, but it's going to be a low-key weekend, man. And I'm pretty stoked for it. Probably go to Etjoe, honestly.

At Joe, Mesco, Atchal, Mesco. Yeah, we need that drop. Matt O'Rancho. Randall. Mine, we got a bleak. Probably not going to be doing much. Going to be doing a lot of organizing and cleaning around the house. That's my big thing.

I'm probably going to try to be as much productive as I can be. Probably FaceTime my mom on Sunday. KJ. Stop. What? I just, I'm waiting for the pivot of like, because you're still getting ready for...

For a wedding in Portugal in June. And I'm just staying in and saying in. saving a bunch of money and all that right now. So it's all good. So just staying in. Hop on the sticks. I will probably play a little bit of video games. I still need to watch the new avatar.

But yeah. No, you don't. I mean, I guess I kind of want to. And I need to finish up project I've been working on as a gift. Today was technically the due date, but so it's not anymore. Because I'm not close. You got an extension.

Yeah. Okay. You, David. David, what are you doing this weekend? Thanks for asking, Randy. We too have some T-ball. Playoffs, we had a game last night. We took it home.

Cubbies move on. There's a league-wide email that went out about if they have to cancel any more games, then they're just going to stop the playoffs at single elimination. They're going to make it. It's double elimination. And they're going to just change it to single. So basically if you've already lost a game, then you're out. And that we did lose our first playoff game, but we won last night.

And so I'm not really happy about that because they've already cut other games. So I'm like ready to, I'm ready to kind of complain a little bit. I'm hoping it doesn't come to that because I want this thing to keep going because the boys are loving it. Like Rhodes loves this. And it's so fun. So hopefully we get a game in Saturday. Hopefully go on, take down the Marlins, then play. in theory would be a game the next day.

It's serious. But one game at a time, we'll see what happens. Other than that, Mother's Day weekend, I've got some, maybe I got some things planned. We'll see. I don't know, she doesn't listen to the show. There's some things planned. Yeah, we'll just leave it there.

Shut out to all the mommies. The will mommies and the real mommies. We love the mommies. Edomomomys. Oh, yeah. We like Edomami too. Yeah. All right.

If that wraps it up, we're going to do a little run-it-back if you guys are ready for that. Please. Of course, the segment during which we talk about what we talked about all week long. This one's very Thursday heavy. KJ, KJ being here just kind of brings the laughs. Anyway, let's get it kicked off. You don't have your air full of tires and it shows. Randy?

Randy? Okay. Dave Beerbath, the, The brots. It's kind of a tongue twistered. KJ. He's a Wisconsin guy. It's been a lot of fun.

Dylan will not be going to the batting cages to turn around and bend over. What? KJ was defending Vrable and Rossini's actions very clearly. KJ has been binging Casey's PR. As a guy who's also extremely horny, KJ likes Dylan's wild-on pick. and finally that's the life of a motherfucking podcaster and that concludes right back can we start writing that book please the life a motherfucker fucking podcaster just saying let's do it just said thanks kj shout out to penguin you demand paris preach preach preach anything you want to plug

again he's musgraves PRs but i'm gonna watch for the last few days uh always use a flared base out there how about that Are we going to get some, some Pokemon opening content on partial recall anytime soon? Uh, you know, if I didn't stop, uh,

opening shit like constantly, just because of like habit and that, you know, just full blown compulsive, um, personality. I'd say, yeah,

but, uh, I need to get some hits. Uh, your boy was locked out of Pokemon center when this episode started. So let me, uh, let me,

uh, let me secure some product and I'll go live for you. Love it. love it. We'll see. We'll see you for the email blast tomorrow. Watch that substack.com. Also check out our Patreon.

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