Circling Back - Independence Day & Big Game Hunting

Episode Date: July 3, 2019

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all right we're back circling back podcast wednesday july 3rd my name is will defries to my right dave ruff if you're listening to this and it's wednesday the eve of the 4th of July. You still have time to secure a lake house, a jet ski, a watercraft, something. Get on the horn. Start going through your contacts. Hit up your boy from college who his dad might still have that place on Lake Travis. You can still do this. No. Godspeed.

You're screwed. Too late. You're screwed. You got to get that pity invite. Put out a Facebook post because I feel like Facebook is great for this. You're screwed. Too late. You're screwed. You got to get that pity invite. Put out a Facebook post because I feel like Facebook is great for this. Say, what's everybody's plans for the 4th? I'm so anti-pity invites. If I ever feel like I'm getting a pity invite,

it makes me more mad than not getting invited at all. Stay off of Twitter, but just put some vibes out on Facebook. Maybe put out a poll or something. Are you guys doing fun stuff? Hit this for yes. Hit this for no. You know what I can't wait for? Everyone to fill their social media stories with fireworks.

Those are always really cool. Those are always really cool. They turn out really well. It's like you're there almost. Unless you're a professional photographer who has like a really nice camera with a long exposure. Don't post your photos of fireworks post post video and photo of not professional fireworks amateur fireworks oh yeah i want to see your screaming demons i want to see your whistlers i'm on the time stamps for

today's episode i'm just going to make this first part like terrible fourth of july advice from dave no i'm dead serious about this one though i. I'm not kidding. I like watching your homemade, or not homemade, but amateur fireworks show videos. Unless you're posting that old video of wheelchair Terry who can't get away from the fireworks in the middle of the street, I don't want to see your video, your firework video. What's the little cone? Is that the screaming demon?

There's a little cone, and it just shoots up a fountain. It might be just called the fountain. I want to see you and the squad run and jump over it. Tell me you all know what video I'm talking about. Yeah. Okay. Is his name really Wheelchair Terry? No, his name's Terry, but he's in a wheelchair.

And Terry can't operate his wheelchair. Yeah, why was he so close? Somebody should have been there with him. Seriously, be careful with fireworks. Yeah. They can fuck you up. Look what happened to JPP.

Light fuse, get away. If you value your hands, be careful around fireworks. Yeah, it'll get you. Are you guys boycotting Trump 4th of July

like Twitter Moments is doing right now? What are we doing? What's the story behind that? Trump's 4th of July like Twitter Moments is doing right now? What are we doing? What's the story behind that? Trump's 4th of July parade partially paid for with funds diverted from the National Park Service. Yeah, maybe just don't do the parade. I don't think we need a military parade. I don't even know anything about this.

I just know that it's the number one trending thing on Twitter besides Wednesday wisdom. Hashtag. Well, I think we're going gonna have some tanks involved and shit like if you're trump we're reverting to a uh some sort of third world dictatorship it sounds expensive if you're if you're trump if you're anybody if you're anyone involved in this isn't the one thing you don't take away from like national parks Like that's what people are going to pile on you for. I feel like there's just other parts that like other budgets in the government that people aren't like hyper aware of, but the environment's like the one thing that you know, you're going to get killed for.

Yeah. Probably could have been handled. He doesn't care. I think that's the issue. I know. I mean like, but if you've, if you've been following it,

like, I mean, it's not really high up on the agenda of this particular party just saying and that's true i'm not saying it's a bad or a good thing it's just not there's there's been efforts to try to privatize a lot of that land yeah which is which you know in my opinion i'm a big outdoorsman as me as somebody likes to grow my beard out and go fly fish on public lands and like hunt elk and shit you know, in my opinion, I'm a big outdoorsman as me, as somebody who likes to grow my beard out and go fly fish on public lands and like hunt elk and shit, you know,

hopefully someday in the future, I'm a big public land guy. Go out there. My bow, just me and my bow. Damn. Yeah. I'll call my bow Bay.

Just me and Bay. I hear Bay bow. No, no, it's not what I call it. Take that one step too far. I think, I think I did as well.

It's all right. Make sure you're lighting your fireworks with that long-ass lighter. Not like a little handheld one, but like the one with, it's got the trigger and it's, you know, about six-inch barrel. Yeah. Yeah, and don't like self-rigged stuff. Just use it as they're supposed to be used. You know, don't try to create some kind of super firework.

Don't do the thing where you tie the bottle rocket to a string and then tie it to your penis like Steve-O did. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Don't do that. Oh, and don't put a... It's not a bottle rocket, but it's... Oh, yeah, it is a bottle rocket. Don't put a bottle rocket in your butt.

Yeah, don't put... And light it. It's a bottle rocket. It's got the long stem. Yeah, don't put that in your booty hole it will probably hurt you pretty good it'll singe you'll burn you have you ever done that no i have not but um as as a guy who used to run uh the tfm uh accounts for a while um i've seen probably i don't know 30 000 of those videos have to, the bottle rocket tied to the male penuse

was one of the funnier jackass bits ever. Because it just kind of, for a second, it spun in a circle. And then it just exploded. Yeah, that's a good one. Does Austin do anything for the 4th of July? Lake Travis, I heard, has a really dope one. There's one over the lake on Austin

Country Club, over the golf course. They shoot it from one of the fairways over the lake. Fireworks. What'd I say? You didn't say anything. You just said it's over the lake. Yeah, they shoot fireworks over the lake. Sorry. Big thing at ACC, boats will gather around. They do a really, really cool show.

I've never spent a 4th of July in Austin, Austin. I've done outskirts. Somewhere downtown does a firework display as well. No parades or anything? No. I'm a big parade guy. Dude, go to D.C. I like parades more than fireworks.

Why don't you go to the Trump parade? Gross. I'm not a big parade guy. They're going to have scud missiles and shit. No. I'm hashtag boycott Trump 4th of July, which has 30.1k tweets. Is that really the hashtag? Mm-hmm.

That's too long. That's the same problem as the Ted Cruz hashtag. I don't think, I mean, based on it being the top trending topic, I think it's doing, it's got wheels. Okay, but it's because they put it in, they put it there. It's a Twitter moment. It has more than hashtag Wednesday thoughts. Wednesday thoughts is better, but it's because they put it there. It's a Twitter moment. It has more than hashtag Wednesday thoughts. Wednesday thoughts is better, but not good.

We can take this time to talk about how trash the trending topics are on Twitter. Like most days. It's like the number one trending topic right now is hashtag Wednesday wisdom. Number two is Trump. Number three is hashtag Wednesday thoughts. Number four is hashtag Wednesday motivation. Why are mine so much different? Why is everyone using Wednesday to use their brain?

You probably have local trends. Mine's Haiti. Yeah, what? Okay, I don't know. I don't know how to check it. Apparently Mexico defeated them last night in the Gold Cup. Again, I don't have access to your phone, but I have United States trends.

You might have a more local version. I'm surprised you didn't know this about haiti going down against mexico in the gold cup what is the gold cup i didn't know that is it under 20 it's essentially a bunch of uh a bunch of places in our hemisphere i've never really checked the trends on twitter is conca cough is that how you say it? CONCACAF? Are they more corrupt than FIFA, or are they less corrupt than FIFA? I don't know if you can find a place or an organization in the world more corrupt than FIFA. So they're not is correct?

That's the question. FIFA is the poster boy of corruption. Well, this guy says, at the end of the day, it's a money game. Haiti wouldn't fill up the stadium in the finals like Mexico would have. Corruption 100%. People are saying this is a...

Was there a missed call or something? I didn't watch the game. Yeah, bad penalty. I only watched the Brazil-Argentina game last night, which appeared to be lit. I think we need to do a douchebag bar crawl in Brazil. When those two teams get together,

all bets are off. Damn. You never know what's going to happen. Yeah. I rewatched, I watched the U.S. women's game, like, entertaining game

and everything like that. Argentina-Brazil was one of the greatest games. It was so much fun to watch just because, like, they're psychos in South America. Sounds like the helicopter's going to land

on the roof. Yeah, sorry. We had a strike force team en route here. Did y'all do something that I don't know about? I think so. We have a straight up helicopter hovering over the studio. It's like 20 feet outside the... I'm waiting to see the tops of the trees start shaking. You can probably hear it.

Interesting. Interesting. Damn. That's interesting. There's some fugitive just tearing through the neighborhood right now. You know, and they're chasing him. Yeah. Yeah, you get it. God will be tight.

It's the one-armed man. Sounds like he's going away, so we're fine. So, wait, what were your thoughts on USA England? It was fine. Piers Morgan gets to shut up. Boy, I was looking to make some comparison between Piers Morgan and Luke P from The Bachelor because it seems like any time they step out,

like Luke P into like, you know, where the boys are and Piers into Twitter, into public, they just get absolutely flamed. How did you feel about the tea sipping celebration by Alex Morgan? Oh, yeah. Got him. Yeah. Yeah.

And you see Piers Morgan's tweet about it? Not good. Like, dude, what are you doing? He said, dope, not tea or something. It's like not even creative. He was saying, cause like, it looked like she might be smoking a joint, which got her. Yeah. But yeah.

Can you imagine? I thought there was like kind of a double, uh, entendre there meaning like she's a dope. Yeah. I think that was something. Okay. Um, yeah. As an American, obviously I love it. I'm more of a fan of spilling the tea than I am of sipping the something. Okay. Yeah, as an American, obviously, I love it. I'm more of a fan of spilling the tea than I am of sipping the tea.

Really? Yeah. Okay. There's a lot of people. I'm going to miss the final. When is it? Sunday. Where are you going to be?

Driving. Nice. What time will the final start? I think Texas time, about 9.30. AM. Yeah. A.M. Yeah. You're not going to consume it like we did the Ryder Cup on our way to Dallas? Actually, that's literally my plan.

I'm going to plug the audio into the car, listen to it. Hopefully, Sally will drive that leg of the trip, and I can watch the game. That's exciting. I'll be at the ranch. Not to spoil this weekend in fun already, but I'll be at the ranch with the fame. I can watch it out there. That'll be tight. You're just going to spoil it. I know. I'll get to it later. That to spoil this weekend in front already, but I'll be at the ranch with the fam. I can watch it out there. That'll be tight. You're just going to spoil it.

I know. I'll get to it later. That wasn't even sponsored by Eisenhower's on Rainy Street in Austin, Texas. Yeah, I know. We'll get to that. There's a lot of English people upset. I saw that female,

that other women's soccer player. She said she was a little bit critical. The English are very high on their team. The, the, their, their manager is a very esteemed player. Seems like a good team.

They, they played as well. He, the, their manager is a guy who played for Manchester United as well as Wayne Rooney Everton. No. And,

uh, I like him. I, I don't dislike him at all. Whereas a lot of like English people can come off as smarmy. Well, it was kind of funny that they all got upset about the tea. It being tea, it's really that big of a deal. It's kind of funny.

Hey, what would be the equivalent if they were to mock the U.S.? I was thinking like a burger or something. Some wings from Hooters. A beer? I don't know. Not that they don't drink beer over there. I feel like they just do some kind of Trump thing. How would A beer? I don't know. Not that they don't drink beer over there. I feel like they just do some kind of Trump thing. How would you mock?

I don't know. I feel like that's what we'd get mocked for at this point. Which is very mockable. Yeah. The tea thing is pretty harmless. But if I was English, I would probably be like, man, fuck this chick. Were people really upset over it? Yeah.

Okay. That's fucking stupid. I'm sorry to all our English backers out there, but dude, get over it. Get over it. You wouldn't have been mad if she did it and we lost 2-1. Oh, yeah.

It's because when you're losing, especially no one likes to lose to the Americans. You wouldn't even be thinking about that. You'd be laughing. Losing stinks. Losing to the Americans is, it double stinks. And then she makes fun of your culture a little bit. I get it.

Maybe your culture shouldn't be tea. Not a big deal, though. I mean, it's, at the end of the day, like, we're better at your sport than you are. Sorry. Oh. Only the women. Only the women.

Yeah, yeah. The men are stink. The men are trash. Our men just shouldn't show up. Oh, come on, man. They didn't even qualify last time, dog. That was unfortunate. Yeah, yeah. The men are stinking. The men are trash. Our men just shouldn't show up. Oh, come on, man. They didn't even qualify last time, dog. That was unfortunate. They should have qualified.

I forgot about that. That was a tough time. It's embarrassing. Reddit twisted some of my words. They'll do that. The Redditors, yeah. They took something I said. Actually, no, they didn't take something I said.

They took something that I didn't say and then said I said it. They've done that to me a few times. Let's hear it. They said I said that Rapinoe didn't play well. I didn't say and then said I said it. They've done that to me a few times. Let's hear it. They said I said that Rapinoe didn't play well. I didn't say that. I said the U.S. women's team didn't play well as a whole. I didn't say Rapinoe didn't play well. Damn.

Did anything come out about her? I don't have any context. Anything about her? No, man. Everybody was too focused on the tea thing. Yeah, I still don't understand oh like you could they could pantomime england they pantomime like a beer bong or something that'd be tight yeah they're not bong beers over there i doubt they don't even play like they like they get excited about like red cup solo cups they do get excited

it's like very american they view that as being insanely american the fuck's y'all's problem oh i'll still eat some meat pies though i'm anti solo their pub scene is tight though like i want to go to a pub over there you know fish and chips let's go i'll fuck up some fish and chips d Dave. You know, I might hit up Long John Silver's after this. Really? Oh, I might. Oh, that ain't it. That'd be a weird Wednesday lunch stop for you.

Why? Especially Solo. Well, because it's Long John Silver's, and you'd be the only person under, like, 75 in there. Yeah. And, again, it's Long John Silver's. You know what? They probably have decent food. I don't think I've...

I think I went once as a kid. I mean, dude, look. You're not going to go wrong with some chicken. You tell me they can't fry the fuck out of a shrimp. Oh, they can... You telling me that? No, I'm not telling you that at all. Okay.

I would never tell you that. Woo! Yeah, but are you eating that shrimp if it's not fried? If they're putting that bitch on ice? No. You're not eating that. Honestly, there's very few places i will get that kind of shrimp from yeah my concern about long john silvers and i just pulled up their menu of which there are many is that you can get two fish tacos for four dollars they're doing fish tacos now the thing about if that was like on a beachside grill and i saw some dude come up with a bunch of fish that he was filleting right there, I'd be like, yeah, okay.

It's cheap because it's just straight from the ocean. No middleman. That's fresh, dog. I think we're pretty far from where this salmon's being caught. It's hard to say. Long John Silver's very far down on the list of places. There are fast food restaurants that I like to go to. There are fast food restaurants

that I will go to like once every two years. And then there are fast food restaurants that I avoid at all costs. Long John Silver's is one of those restaurants. Yeah, fast seafood is just, it doesn't sit well with me.

Have y'all done Red Lobster in the past five, ten years? Fuck no. No. No. It's just like the grown-up version of Long John Silver's, right? I think so. But with Red Lobster, like, how much It's just like the grown-up version of Long John Silver's, right? I think so.

But with Red Lobster, how much are you paying for if you get actual lobster? I don't know. I feel like you'd just be better off going to the store and just getting a lobster. Man, I will never make lobster because I can't put a living lobster into boiling water. I just can't do it. I think you can get it to where it's not living. I feel like there's ways around it. Really?

You don't want to put a dead lobster into the boiling water if it's been dead for over a certain period of time. Don't they scream? I mean, dude, it tastes so good. Who cares? Don't they scream well? They make a noise. It's like a hiss.

I'll just put the headies on when I do it, though, so I don't hear them. They go, what's up do they not have they don't have like prices that's that's shady red lobster red lobster doesn't have prices online that's shady it's all market price i always like it when people say oh they don't feel the pain. How do you know? Okay. All right. What evidence do you have? I guess them screaming in my face isn't, they're just doing that to let me know what's up. They die instantly.

What are you doing this weekend? No, no one should feel guilt about it. After you eat me, what's up? It's so good, though. My God. It's so good. And it's a tribute to their life. Okay. It's one way of looking at it. It's a tribute to their life. Okay. That's one way of looking at it.

It's a tribute to their life. It's like the equivalent of Elton John performing Candle in the Wind. It's easier than cooking. It's easier than making mac and cheese. It's literally the easiest food to make. You boil water. You put the lobster in it. You take the lobster out after five minutes.

I ask this question every time it comes up. The process of eating it is a little bit more difficult. Who is it who, up until until recently had not boiled water? Which one? It was me. It was you. Well, I hadn't. No, I think it was.

I hadn't made rice. Is that what we talked about? I just remember somebody who was like, I've never boiled water. No, I boiled water, but I hadn't made something. What was it? I hadn't made something that was like very easy to make. Like ramen. I know you haven't had ramen.

I've never eaten the ramen out of the package. You've never dined for 10 cents. Yeah. But I had a thing with chicken flavored noodles for a while. I got sick after eating them and I couldn't stomach them. A lot of sodium in those little packets. That's a problem. Makes you feel like shit.

Yeah. Dude, Dylan, get a lobster off. Don't. I don't want to put a live lobster in boiling water, man. I'm kind of a P word when it comes to... That's soft. Like killing animals. I don't like killing animals.

I think even seeing roadkill and stuff, it just makes me feel bad. Lobsters, I really truly don't care. I just prefer for someone else to do it. You know that when you grill a piece of meat, that was alive before you... Yeah, but I'm not killing it, you know? You don't like fishing, right? I hate fishing.

It's not that I don't like it. Really? You think it's boring, right? Do you not have a pond out to the little ranch? It's boring. I'm just too impatient for it. We do, but it's not stocked. Like I'm stocking one day i again call me a p word if you if you want to but i don't like to touch if i don't like

to touch a fish it's like the softest thing about me for real oh yeah every time i've gone fishing like man i really kind of just don't want to catch one so i don't want to take it off the hook man that's yeah that sounds like a terrible time yeah that's that's by far the the most have you ever gone offshore like done offshore fishing yes i did an offshore um i went blue marlin fishing marlin fishing offshore it was a 12 12 and a half hour trip it's a long time how many marlin not catch one nibble and it was the most miserable time of my life. And I don't think I'll ever do it again.

Who were you with? I was with my family. We were off the coast of Puerto Vallarta. Oh, TFM. Yeah. Not, nothing. I've never done marlin fishing. It seems like it might be cool.

I don't know. I have no desire. It's cool if you catch one. Going fishing in the bay or something. Galveston, that stuff's cool. I don't do it a lot. In fact, I've done it like twice. I got sick last time I went deep sea fishing. Only time I ever get in seasick, but it kind of ruined it for me.

Yeah. It's the worst feeling in the world. I've done bay fishing. There's a photo of me with an Abercrombie hat in ninth grade, like an old school Abercrombie hat holding a giant mackerel. Did it have the horn? It did. Eventually it did.

And I think after that, it got cut into a visor. Did you do things to it to try to? Absolutely. He cut the top off. He popped off on that fucking hat. It's me and flounder on the fly at flounder on the fly. He caught a shark,

huh? He's caught everything. Big fishermen. What kind of shark was that that he just posted on his gram? Looked like a great white shark.

Oh, yeah. I don't know. I was going to guess that did he post a gram? I didn't see it. I double tapped. I got a pizza.

Of course, he posted a gram. Oh, yeah. it. I double tapped. I got pizza. Of course he posted a gram. Hell yeah. Fucking electric. Yeah, I'm not a big... I don't know. I have no desire to go catch shark. I'm not a... I don't trophy hunt.

I'm not a trophy fisherman. I can't deal with animals that have visible emotions. So like I don't think I could kill an elk and walk up to it and have it like slowly dying looking at me. You know what I mean? Yeah. Whereas a lobster it's like

alright dude later. A fish like doesn't have a look in its eye like you're about to kill me. The first time I went hog hunting I shot a hog from about like 50, 60 yards. Not too far. But I got him like through the back side

oh come on so he it was not a good shot I understand and he didn't die just a colon shot it totally immobilized him and he was

like his back side was on the ground and he was squealing stop spinning in circles spinning in circles and I was like fuck and I had a pistol on me too

stop so I had to walk up to this thing this squealing hog and put one in his head and it was really uncomfortable. Yeah. Call me soft. I don't want to do that. Call me a beta. But I mean, stories like that are why I have no desire.

It was not a fun experience for me. I have. I've had the desire to fly fish. Just a butt shot. I've gone out once. I got him in the butt, dude. When it comes to hunting, I don't think there's any way I ever get into it. That's what I bird hunt. I can bird hunt all day. I feel him in the butt, dude. When it comes to hunting, I don't think there's any way I ever get into it. That's what...

I bird hunt. I can bird hunt all day. I feel like birds... Birds is another thing. It's very hard to just wound a bird. You shoot them out of the sky and they fall over again. Yeah, you don't see the emotion either.

I feel like birds don't show emotion like other animals do. Yeah. A hog or a deer, elk. I feel you, Will. I don't know. I'm soft. This is the softest podcast ever. Well, dude. I'll kill some shit. Okay. There you go. I don't know. I'm too soft. This is the softest podcast ever.

Well, dude, I'll kill some shit. Okay. There you go. Somebody invite me. Invite me to your ranch, somebody. I need you to provide travel, room and board, all that shit. Come out to mine, Dave. Also, a small fee.

We have to pay you? Appearance fee. Not you, but anybody else. Oh, I got you. But that includes dinner with me that you will provide alcohol that you'll provide uh i'll bring some i'll bring the mixers and um yeah i'll sign uh 10 autographs total that sounds like a week i'll do five pictures no one's doing autographs anymore yeah all you guys are tight i'm bringing them back i do want to i hunting's like going

like living the the lifestyle the rogan lifestyle of like going and getting an elk and get bringing back a year's worth of meat i every time i hear him talk about i'm like god that's tight and then i'm like god that's never gonna be me i don have the means. I don't have the training or the means. I think a tag for an elk is crazy expensive. It's hard to get. Yeah. And it's expensive. And you can't just go out there as a noob. Where does he hunt?

So they'll go to Lanai to get Axis deer. Lanai's a small island in Hawaii. Okay. It's got like tens of thousands of these axis deer that were brought there like elk tags. Is that state by state? Elk you can get in New Mexico,

Colorado. That's got to be state by state, right? Yeah. Okay. Montana. Because like, I feel like in some, I feel like it would vary a lot.

I don't know. And I'm not real sure. I'm not either, obviously. I think there's people who do elk in Texas, but it's on like a wild game ranch and it's weird

there's a game ranch I don't want to do that on the way to my ranch every time I drive by it I'm like I don't know man it's cool I like listening to people

who go do like the public land hunts but they just place you I think that's cool shit they place you in like target rich environments it's like it takes the sport out of it

it's like golfing into a green that has like a funnel to the hole it's like a hole in one on a par a green that has like a funnel to the hole. It's like a hole in one on a par three. Yeah, it's like a hole in one on a par three course. Cool, dude. Yeah, you can't even pipe it, man. It's crazy out there.

Wait, are you saying it's like 16 at Augusta? Yeah. You just got to hit it here and it's going to go right down the hole. No, I don't know. Do people feel good about doing that shit? Have you ever had axes? No no i had it once and like i didn't like it they're big huh it's apparently very very difficult to hunt

because they're genetic they are extremely smart and quick because they they were brought over i don't know the story but from from India and they were basically, they evolved being in their main predator was tigers. So they're like extremely fast to itch. How the big cat, big cat. That's tight. It is very tight.

Yeah. I had never, I had never had it and I don't even think I knew what it was at the time. Where'd you have it? Um, Sally's Sally's brother-in-law. Oh, um, he had some and he cooked it up for us yeah he didn't

tell us what it was really like he kind of did but didn't make like a deal out of it and i was like eating it and i was like what is this and it was just kind of weird and gamey and i was like yeah i don't really know if this is for me we're a big game podcast now this is an outdoor podcast yeah i'm looking at photos of them now like they are badass looking yeah they're cool they're big right bigger than a whitetail? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're thick boys.

Like a mule deer? Thick boy. Yeah. I mean, Sally's parents bought like a portion of like an entire cow. And that was great to have all that meat. That sounds like something I would like to invest in at some point. I would invest in it. They don't listen to this. They only listen to the mail-in, which is actually very convenient for me do they really i think so damn i gotta i gotta chill yeah sometimes i twist off on there but like

part of me was like oh we should go in with them next year on when they do it again then i'm like wait we got a bunch of free steaks from them like let's just do what we did last year let's just chill yeah that's a good call let's just chill and get the free meat that they're not using. Man, speaking of elk. Hashtag free meat. If y'all want to send us some more elk, you're out there. Low key, that toucher that sent us this stuff, low key that salmon went just as hard as the elk, if not harder.

Was that the original elk Friday? The bonus salmon. The bonus salmon, dude. The bonus salmon was so good. His different. Compliments that elk so well. God, that was a day. Yeah. We did three men in a hot tub, dude. The bonus salmon was so good. His different. It compliments that elk so well. God, that was a day. Yeah.

We did three men in a hot tub, too. We did. Four men in a hot tub. It was not a big hot tub, either. Danny brought his friend over. No one gets that. No one knows what we're talking about. Why did that bother us so much?

Because it was a dude. It was Elk Friday. It was for the guys, man. It was Elk Friday. We had Friday. It was for the guys. Honestly, it bothered me to the point where I was almost like, I just want to leave. Yeah, it was Elk Friday, and we had that situation where it's like, hey, do you guys mind if

I bring my friend who's in town? She didn't exactly have a charismatic personality. She didn't understand what we were doing, which is not entirely her fault. She's like, wait, so you guys just get together on Fridays? You guys are just eating elk? It was like the day before Christmas, too. It was right before everyone dispersed to their families for Christmas. Mind your own business.

We're just sitting around a pool in the cold wearing sweatpants and eating elk. She was probably just like... I mean, yeah. She's probably telling her friends right now that she's just as confused as we were about her. And I think Dave was doing curls by the pool down there. Oh, yeah.

That's a pretty funny gram. I'll just ask the question. Everyone's wondering. Was she a stripper? I don't think so. Is it hard to say? She seemed very young. No, she was old enough to be a stripper.

That's fair. She wasn't the take- take home to your mom type. It was very bizarre. Well, she's definitely not a take, take home to your boys who are cooking elk at your place.

Her type. At one point, you guys like left me by the pool with her and I was just sitting there talking to her and I was like, we have nothing in common.

To be fair, we're, we're pretty open guys. Like we like to talk to, we'll talk to anybody, but this was just like, this scenario was very awkward. It was just very, it was like, it was just a wrench thrown into the game. We're like talk to, we'll talk to anybody. But this was just like, this scenario was very awkward. It was just very, it was like, it was just a wrench thrown into the game.

We're like, um. Did she have some of our bonus salmon? She fucking, yeah, she got some of that elk. We didn't give her any, did we? She didn't get any bonus salmon, but she did get some elk. Dude, the salmon was so good. She taxed our elk. The best thing about the bonus salmon is it was a bonus.

Yeah. Didn't expect it at all. Micah also threw me so off when he salted it because he used kosher salt, and I was not familiar with the concept of kosher salt. And I was like, dude, what are you doing? That's so much salt. Turned out to be like the best cooked salmon I've ever had. He definitely overcooked the fuck out of the elk, but it was still good.

Can I admit that? No, I don't think he did that. Can I admit that I don't know what kosher means? I don't know what it means, but essentially kosher salt, i have no clue other than what i've learned on a netflix series it looks like you're using way too much it's thick but it's not you're not you also you you use more than you think you should also it's really good on um it's good for red meat like i use it to season steaks and stuff. I use it... Sally and I started... We started salting our steak the night before,

letting it sit all night in a massive amount of kosher salt and then grilling it the next day. It made our steaks taste a lot better. Kosher salt is coarse edible salt without common additives such as iodine. Okay. It has a large, rough crystal. Takes a long time to dissolve in the mouth.

They crunch. Okay. A lot of information there. I don't need all that. Well, you asked the question. Trying to help you out. Dave, you said you had an unsolicited television recommendation. Yeah, I just kind of wanted to keep talking about Elk and shit, though. I started a show last night.

It's called City on the Hill. Kevin Bacon's in it. One of the Colkins is in it. I don't know which one. Not Succession Colkin. Not Macaulay Colkin. I did not know there was another Colkin. It's the Colkin who was in in waco he played tibideau are they the new baldwin brothers they all maybe that's crazy like they've got more talent than the bald ones does he take

the colkin name or is he a different oh i'm looking at like something i feel like there's multiple there's many Colkins. And I didn't know this until after I watched it and got to the credits. And don't let this turn you off because had I known this before. Don't spoil anything, Dave. Be careful. Be careful.

The spoil police. Had I known this going in, I may not have enjoyed the show as much. Executive produced by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. And that will make a lot of sense when I tell you what it's about. It is a drama, a political, a cop, FBI, political, drug dealing, or not even drug dealing, Boston gang TV show. So think like the town meets the wire why wouldn't you like it as

much just because it's boston and you know how like everything those guys fucking do everything's got to be so over the top boston me i might have been like oh great cool we get to see how uh how boston been out fucking matt damon are well they're not even in it dude i fuck heavy though with their boston shit i know it's all good but it's just for some reason it's obnoxious to me but this is a good year from boston exactly are you two minute two episodes in i'm in it's good kevin bacon's this degenerate FBI cop. There's a lot of racial tension. You've got a guy who works in the DA's office. He's a black guy.

Boston is, if you believe this show, one of the most racist towns ever. People in political and investigatory positions. It's bad. But you get that. It's got a wire vibe to it. Tell me the name of it again. It's a tell me the name of the good show city on the hill city on the hill showtime oh maybe you got a login or something i'm tearing through billions

right now on showtime dude okay i'll say this i was trying to like figure out which colkin it was he's getting absolutely screwed what's his name he's getting screwed by whoever's producing this by putting him so far down on the list of people on the show. Like he, like he's so far down that like as someone who has never even heard of the show before, he might get killed off. Okay. Rory Culkin. Rory.

Rory. Rory Culkin. Like he is so far down on this show. I'm intrigued though. I actually, I'm the the opposite of you i'm more intrigued now that i know it's produced by them it's good um yeah what's it on again showtime showtime i need hashtag i think this is the first season too so hashtag if you're listening uh send me that send me your password again i lost it i recommended it to him and he's like you still using my shit oh yeah oh yeah hashtag i i'm i'm about to finish season two of billions thank you

it's really good it's got me it's got me hooked kevin bacon's a good actor man he's kind of one of those guys that like got like the the taken by the internet like people just love him because of like the whatever degrees is ke Kevin Bacon and stuff like that. You know he lost his ass in the Bernie Madoff stuff. Oh, no I didn't. He was a big investor. Not good. No, it's not good at all. So rooting for him.

Yeah, his character's real scummy but it's one of those ones you can't tell who you're going to root for. The character is so far two episodes in, I'm intrigued. You know me, I like to get to bed early. I stayed up until a few minutes past 11 last night. Watch Wild Man. I feel like you stay up low-key late sometimes.

Yeah. You're more likely to stay up for sports games than a lot of people, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going dumb on these boys. Damn, dude. It's likely to stay up for sports games in a lot of people, I feel like. Yeah. What's wrong with you? I'm going dumb on these boys. Damn, dude. I'm sorry.

That's my unsolicited recommendation. Check it out. Let me know if you're watching it. If you guys are watching it, and hey, no spoilers. I'm only two in. I'm probably not going to have like, I probably got like, I don't know, three nights of non-TV watching because more on that on weekend and fun, but let me know how you like it.

I think we should all have any, I don't have any unsolicited recommendations for TV right now. Dylan's charging through billions. Billions is really good. Yeah. It's, um, I would,

I would suggest watching billions. It's exciting. That's a very Dylan recommendation because it's just been out and everybody knows about it. That's why I'm not carrying the flag here for it. Dylan was adamant before we started recording that he gets to talk about Billions. Here's your time, Dylan.

This is like his thug plug. It's already four seasons in, right? Yeah. It's been out for a minute, but it's good. This is like me recommending Game of Thrones. If you've been considering Billions, I would recommend getting into it. Very watchable. Actually, here's an unsolicited recommendation.

Don't watch Euphoria. That's my recommendation. Yeah, man. Some of the people on my TL tweeting about it, everyone's got about the same take. It's a little much there. They they're either in on it, but they acknowledge that it makes them feel weird or they're out on it. And it makes them feel not a Sunday night show.

No, that's how someone recommended to me in the beginning. They were like, how do we feel about euphoria? Definitely not for Sunday nights. And I was like, okay, noted.

And then I watched it on Sunday night and I was like, yep nope not ending my weekend with this yeah i caught about a 10 minute stretch of it where it was just every pretty shitty scenario possible and i was like yeah i'm uh go upstairs watch the ball game i will not be getting into euphoria i'm gonna give it a shot isn't there a festival here called euphoria fest is that in austin it's like an edm thing i think you're right do you want to go nope absolutely not you guys are the edm crews guys that's true that's true we are that was my uh that was my final dip into edm live we were the guys sipping uh red wine on the front of the boat while other people were listening to EDM. Just rolling their dicks.

Poolside, rolling. No, that's what sketches me out. I don't even think people were rolling because it was international and people couldn't get drugs. So I was just looking at everybody like, how are you having so much fun right now? This isn't that much fun. They were just having fun normally? Yeah. What?

I can't imagine going to like an EDM show at this point in my life and being like, man, this is so great. I'm enjoying myself. But I'm 32. It's not for me. I'm 32.

The most recent concert I've been looking at tickets for was Why I Love It. So I'm kind of on a different wavelength at this point. Wow, there is a Euphoria Fest. Yeah. An annual four-day music and camping fest

held in Austin, Texas. That sounds terrible. I'm on their Instagram page right now, and I can tell you right now. Where is it held? We will not be going. You want to know who's there? Bass Nectar.

Okay, where does it take place? Have you not heard of Bass Nectar? Looks like it's at your ranch this year. Really? Yeah, the only reason I know about Bass Nectar is because on a previous podcast, Looks like it's at your ranch this year. Really? Yeah. The only reason I know about base nectar is because on a previous podcast, we were considering, someone suggested we call listeners base heads, but apparently that's what the base nectar crew is called.

We're like, okay, well, fine. Yeah, they're pretty famous. Good. They're pretty famous in the EDM scene. Lil Dicky's there. Oh, what's's up ld he's on a cruise also walk a flock of flame wow not a big walkout guy cool won't be there but if you're going man be safe that's actually the 2016 lineup so fuck me you nailed that you guys find a time machine, have fun. Did you see there was like a European version of Fyre Fest?

Wait, I did. A$AP Rocky canceled and was like, yeah, these guys are a shit show. We're not doing this anymore. Where were they going to do it? I don't know. It didn't get as much pub, and I think people... It was one of those things where it was kind of similar, and I think people were trying to draw comparisons, but i don't think it actually reached the point

of fire fest they didn't have whistleblowers from anonymous twitter accounts they didn't have the fuck jerry guys trying to act like everything was okay even though they knew that it was a shit show and they were getting paid they didn't want to try to i don't know head down to the customs office and perform for some water what's there an update on Firefest right now? Like what, like what's the standing of everything? I don't know, but if they want to have us out,

the cut, the, the, it's like, are you familiar with that website? Not really. Okay. They keep reporting on like the Elizabeth home stuff,

but they just keep reporting on like what she's dressing like. I'm like, it seems like there's like more important stuff we could be reporting. They're like, Oh, she has pageant hair now. And then people were like, shut her dumb ass voice up. i'm like it seems like there's like more important stuff we could be reporting they're like oh she has pageant hair now and then people were like shut her dumb ass voice up i'm like all right chill is she gonna come out like really hot no she's fucked she didn't have it she's absolutely fucked i think she goes to jail right hard hard to say i feel like it sounded like I was defending her there. I was not. At all. She creeps me out.

She's so much... I've said this before. She's so much worse than she was portrayed in the documentary. Yeah, didn't you say somebody killed themselves? Somebody got killed themselves because of her. And they barely... I don't even know if they talked about it in the documentary. She's still dressing like Steve Jobs?

No, that's like a big deal. Good. She probably listened to me trash her on the podcast. I didn't respect the move. No, now she's wearing business suits and stuff like that. She's kind of like Hillary Clinton-y for her court dates and stuff. I support that. I liked her Steve Jobs look.

I thought it went hard. Can't do that. That being said, I don't like her new pageant hair it's a weird move pageant hair I'm trying to find a photo of this I'll find it I mean I'll find it later

Elizabeth Holmes hey what's up guys I'm officially in the camp of people who don't think she's changing her voice really I don't think she's changing it. I think she just has a terrible voice. I think people grabbed out of that and really tried to act like she was doing it, but I feel like it's gone

on too long. I just think that someone punches her in the stomach before she goes on stage. Here's her hair. What's up, guys? Will is showing us her hair. Okay. What? Hey, don't hate. What is she doing? You know what?

I stan her. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. We shouldn't be surprised by any of this because her decision making in the past has not been great. Her track record leaves a little bit to be desired. Dude, I was trying to find a Theranos the other day when I had to give some blood. Couldn't find one.

They're hard to find these days. Yes, they are. I was trying to find a Theranos the other day when I had to give some blood. Couldn't find one. They're hard to find these days. I feel like if you owned one, it's kind of like owning a version of the first iPhone, like an untouched one. I feel like it'd be worth a lot of money. It's like owning a Beanie Baby. Yeah. Only it's a Beanie Baby that'll take your blood.

That's weird, man. And diagnose it with shit. Spin it around in a centrifuge. You ever wondered how those work? Hearing about... They didn't work. That's the thing. Well, like the...

There would be blood everywhere apparently inside them, which is so gross to me. It weirds me out that you can actually... That's a thing that... Take your blood, put it in a thing, and spin it. And that does some kind of thing,

and it's important. That's gross. That's something that we have to do in science. It's like, all you gotta do is just spin it around real fast. What? Like, fuck.

Well, when I first started, like, discovering all the Theranos stuff, I was sitting there and I was like, it's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know anything about science,

but this seems like a really good idea. I hope she pursues this. Yeah, it's no surprise that she raised a ton of money. Yeah. And then now it's like, oh, this sounds tight.

Now it's like, oh, okay, I guess it's harder than you think. And then now it's like, oh, this sounds tight. Now it's like, oh, okay. I guess it's harder than you think. Scientists were like, I don't think this can work. Many people. Yeah. She's like, no, it works. And they're like, I don't think so.

She had all those generals on board and shit. Like power players. Yeah. Like the Illuminati. If there is such a thing. They were on board. I get it. It doesn't work.

I get it. Been defrauded. Ah, damn it. You hate to see that. You know who the cover girl that cut was this past month? Linda Cardellini. Let me see.

She was a girl from Freaks and Geeks. She was on Dead to Me, which sneaky, phenomenal Netflix series series i've heard that highly recommend it's uh it's not the best thing i've ever watched but it it draws you in it sucks you in hard didn't we used to do a segment called the cut or in the cut or something um i don't know if it was an actual seggy but i I kind of wore out that phrase for a minute there I do remember you wearing it out

you never wear out phrases you don't do that as much anymore why don't I? I don't know man you kind of lost your edge I think you did I lost my fastball? yeah right now

you've kind of turned into more of a junk ball pitcher like you're having a late in your career resurgence so we already we already recorded Friday's Patreon episode at patreon.com slash circlingbackpodcast.

Yeah, I get confused. And Dylan at one point just starts mansplaining claws to Dave and I, and it sounds like when you... Cat claws? Yeah, like when you listen to the... What did I say? No, no, no. You said claws.

You're fine. Like it was like cat claws, right? Yeah, no. You said claws. You're fine. Oh, like it was like cat claws, right? Yeah. As opposed to white claws. Oh yeah. And so when he, when,

when you guys listen to this, just imagine Dylan talking to his son. Cause that's what he starts talking to us. Like it's just outrageous. And he comes at me on Twitter. They've dumb ass. Do you know that they retract? I'll give a fuck about a cat dog.

Did you not know that? Sorry. You know, don't think it declawed now though. It's not a thing. If I had a cat come on dog did you not know that sorry you know don't they get declawed now though isn't that a thing if I had a cat I feel like I'd declaw it I think you can

get the declawed it seems mean but I don't I hate when cats I've been scratched by a cat I hate when cats get on me and have their claws out cats are sketchy man

no I kind of I kind of respect them at this point they just don't give a fuck nah nah they're loco, man. I have a take that I almost tweeted last night, but then I got scared.

I got scared of the timeline. I'll be honest. I was scared of hashtag for some reason. I thought hashtag Chad was going to come at me for something. Oh, shit. What's this about? So I was last night after I got done watching the Brazil-Argentina game where Lionel Messi further proved that he is not the GOAT.

What did he do? He just shits the bed internationally. Damn. He had a lot of words to say about the... The officiating? The officiating. Oh. Al, he got bodied last night.

Whoa. Every time he got the ball, they just fucking murked him. But I tossed on some Wimbledon as I organized my place real quick. And my take, and I'm not certain that I can fully own this take, but my take at the time was that Wimbledon was better background noise than the Masters. And the reason I didn't tweet it is because I think they're on par with one another. I think they're both equally relaxing television programs to have on and just relax to.

I'm going to go full golf hard on you. I don't. The Masters isn't background noise. Yeah, that's part of it. But Wimbledon to me, that is actually perfect background noise. Unless it's the final, then I'm dialed in. Or Feds. I'll watch Feds.

That's what I call them. Roger Federer. That's part of it. See, I started workshopping this in my head, and I was like, man, should put it out there. The Masters, yeah, you're right. It's not background noise. That being said, I do get too deep in my phone when I'm watching the Masters.

Maybe if it's early on and the leaders, you know, have like three hours until they tee off. The morning rounds is background noise early, actually. Sometimes. That's, yeah, I get that. For for some tournaments it is just depends when you got your hot featured groups going off late in the day on thursday or friday sometimes the morning featured groups are like do i really care what stents doing right now if it's thursday and friday and and for that matter maybe a little bit into saturday um you can still have you could everybody's still in it, right, for the most part.

But Sunday morning, maybe. Are there any other sports out there that are relaxing television like the Masters of Wimbledon? Soccer. For me, it's not. English soccer specifically. I don't think – soccer for me is not. Golf's the GOAT.

The reason I like Wimbledon and golf is because or tennis i guess in general wimbledon just has that like aesthetic to it that makes it feel more relaxing kind of like the masters does it's like a different echelon of the sport um but there's the silence of it and soccer doesn't do it for me anymore because there's the droning of the crowd chanting and that kind of takes me out of it and also i like soccer more than like you do for example so i'm going to be more in tuned with it so it's not back yeah where tennis is still very much background yeah but then if you get like a grunter and then you're like you're like you're over here trying to like do something you just hear that's how they sound don't you know i do yeah i might do one now it's pretty good um i might have set this conversation up because i i'd never watched

tennis it's probably my least favorite sport uh in the world okay can't stand it not even wimbledon did you ever play as a kid or anything? Especially not Wimbledon. Okay, that seems harsh. I was joking, but I just hate tennis. It's very boring to me. And I suck at it. I've tried to play and I'm really bad. That's part of the reason why I hate it so much. Probably.

Yeah, but you should have led with that. It's just lame as shit to me. Didn't you tell me the other day that your favorite background noise was like Big 12 gymnastics? Yeah. Like when they do the meets? I don't think. I don't recall telling you that, no. Okay.

It's one of those things that you make up about me. Didn't you say that you just put on YouTube videos of dudes taking batting practice and you just like hearing the wood? I like the peeing of the bat in the cage. It's very pleasing to me. But golf, though, man, I absolutely love watching golf. But yeah, Masters, I'm so tuned in and so dialed into what's going on, it's not really background noise for me. Like a regular-ass tournament?

Fuck yeah. The best napping programming there is. Give me a nap off, dog. So the reason you hate tennis is because you suck at it. You're still stuck on that. Yeah. No, I hate tennis

because tennis is a really, really boring sport to me. Really boring. Dude. It's the same motion. It's not. I don't go out of my... I know, but like,

if you're watching like the upper echelon, the athleticism and going back and forth, specifically Nadal, somebody like that, Djokovic, old school feds. It does nothing for you. The way they place it. Let's talk in terms of casual tennis fans, just like finals. Every single set carries so much weight. That's why I like it because everything matters.

My only issue is when it's the first why i like it because like everything matters my only issue is when it's like the first or second set i realized like man i got like two more hours as long it's a marathon it is a marathon it most you know that's i almost enjoy watching the women a little bit more men do best out of seven women best out of five no no three five three five three five oh dude i love i will go as far to say that wimbledon's a top five sporting event that I want to go to. If I had unlimited funds and access to anything I wanted. You got to get a fit off.

Dude, I mean, dude, the fits that people get off at Wimbledon in the crowd are just pure luxury. And honestly, if your shade game is not tight, don't even go. If your shades cost less than $350, take your ass back to the States. I know. Look, I know that sounds elitist, but it's true. Don't go in there wearing some throwaways

that you're going to wear to the river next week. No. I would much rather watch soccer. You know how much I do. Dude, hell yeah. Dylan, they wouldn't even let you in a Wimbledon. No. You'd go in there wearing your long-ass basketball shorts.

Yeah. You'd have your champion basketball shorts on. You'd have like a fucking... I don't even know. Stop. I could look the part if I went to Wimbledon.

Shut up. I'd put a sweater over my shoulders, tie it around my chest, get some dope shades on, a pink button down, some stupid shit like that. I'd fit right in.

White pants. There you go. Dave, for the tennis fans of this podcast, I'm going to do a quick thing for you, okay? I'm going to say yay or nay, and I'm going to name some players. Oh, yeah. Because I know one player that you really like.

Is it yay, nay, schwing? Yes. Oh, I want to fight Djokovic, by the way. I hate that guy. Why? He's a beast, though. I hateokovic, by the way. I hate that guy. Why? He's a beast, though. I hate him. He's so cocky.

I hate him. Weird. Another cocky guy doesn't like a different cocky guy. I hate him. Okay, we get it, Luke P. I'm sorry. That was mean. What the fuck?

Are you the Luke P of the podcast? Take that back. You're the Luke P. We're not pushing this narrative. All right. We're not. You're right. But, Dylan, I just want to say, for this segment, just make sure you don't put your head in your ass.

Dave, only true backers will get that reference. Djokovic. Yay. I've turned it around on him. I used to not like him. Isn't he a big-time complainer, though, like to the official? I think a lot of people. I mean, he does, but I don't think. But he's like extra whiny i think i think a lot i mean he does but i don't think

but he's like extra whiny about it like a little bitch i honestly don't know okay i like i know there's a legit reason why i hate the guy i think that's he does look he looks very aggressive like his face is kind of like he's got a whiny face, too. Like, my bow's out. Or whatever. That's how it's to sound. All right, go. Nadal. Yay. Dude, I've come around on him, man.

King of clay, right? You know what I'm talking about. Federer. I know what that means. Oh, schwing, schwing. I love feds. Is he the goat? Yes. Yeah, he's the goat.

He's the goat. Although, dude, honestly, since he switched from Nike to whatever that Super Euro brand is. Did he switch to the Adam Scott brand? Uniqlo? Yeah. That's not even Euro. What is it? Asian?

Fuck. Yeah. It hasn't changed anything, but it's just not as aesthetically pleasing as the swoosh. it hasn't changed anything, but it's just not as aesthetically pleasing as the swoosh. I kind of like the Uniqlo stuff though, but I mean, they're a really both impressive company and also one of the dumbest companies ever because they don't,

in the beginning when they were sponsoring athletes, they weren't putting the clothes that the athletes were wearing online. Seems like a no brainer to me. It's just silly. Uh, Andy Murray. Nah, nice guy. Had to retire. Didn't he retire? He retired. That's just silly. Andy Murray. Nah. Nice guy.

Didn't he retire? He retired. I think he's done playing singles. He's playing mixed doubles with Serena. That's cool. Forced to be reckoned with. Yeah, I like the guy. Nice guy, but me as a viewer who watches, I don't know, two a year, he's not my guy.

This is an American. I don't know if you have a take on him. John Isner. Isn't this dude kind of wild ass? He's got the serve. Yeah, I'm in. You don't fuck with... I love an American with a big serve.

Hey, what is with the grunting? I don't know. There are so many sports where you exert little bursts of energy like that that you don't have. I'm pretty sure they did a study on it, and they determined that they don't need to do it. It's just a thing. But it got really bad when Sharapova was playing because she was next level loud.

And it's women who do it more than the men, right? Nadal doesn't. I think it's more noticeable because it's higher pitch. I don't know if they do it more. I never understood that. This is my final one, and the reason I'm asking you is because I really do like this guy. I don't know if you have a take on him, but he's good.

Del Potro. I don't have a take. He's Argentinian. You would know him if you saw him. I was hoping you were going to say Jim Currier. Pete Sampras? I was an Agassi guy. He was the bad boy of tennis.

I feel like I don't like that he guy. He was the bad boy of tennis. I feel like I don't like that he wore a wig. That bums me out. That weirds me out. That's honestly one of the most under-reported, under-talked about weird sports things ever. If somebody was like, hey, Will, what's the most annoying thing you could wear while playing a really high-energy sport?

I'd be like, probably a wig. And a long one at that. Yeah. Dylan, didn't you tell me in high school you used to wear a merkin during baseball games yeah i did i don't even know what a merkin is i don't either oh it's a pubic wig oh that's gross what it's a pubic wig from back in the day you wear it on your pubes they did back in like the day why i don't know there's a reason for people are weird man you're just like applying glue to like your pelvis area and like applying a wig to it.

Weird thing to wear during a high school baseball game. Well, I didn't, so. Where were you? Were your pants all the way down to the ankles? Did you wear the high like Ian Kinsler? I pulled them up. You did? Yeah.

Which was more in style back when I played. Now I think everyone's doing the long ones. Back when was that? You got to pull them up. Yeah, I pulled them up. Back in like the Raleigh Fingers I think everyone's doing the long pants. Back when was that? You gotta pull them up. Yeah, I pull them up. Back in like the Raleigh Fingers days? I showed a lot of sock. No, I'm not that old, Dave.

Was it really in style back then? More so. People were doing the long pant down to the ankle. I love the sock look. I do too. I fucking love it. I felt like the sock look. I do too. I fucking love it. I felt like I was faster.

I felt sleeker on the field. I don't know why. Look good, play good. You fancy yourself like a Benny the Jet? No. My high school soccer days, I felt so much better at soccer when we got our new warm-ups in and I was just walking around in the house.

I was like, yeah, I feel like I'm a professional soccer player at this point. Before, it was like, no, I'm trash. Hell yeah. I'm going to start wearing my jacket more. I still have it. We had so many. We were like the Oregon of high school baseball. We had so many uniform combinations.

Our coach just went crazy with it. See, we had no budget for that shit. Wow, he was ahead of his time. We had no budget. What the fuck? You're high school. We need more info. What you told us.

Our baseball program was dope. Can we talk about, I don't know if we can talk about what we talked about on Patreon. We can't. I'm serious when I say this. I'm not exaggerating. Is it surely anything?

Don't, give it away. Okay. What Dylan tells a story about his high school, something they used to do, like as a high school, not, not just him and his boys. That is,

is one of the more jarring things I've ever heard. Truly shocking. Looking back on it. I don't understand how they got away with doing that. It's going to launch tomorrow. Nope. You got to listen. Friday,

Friday. I, my days are, my days are messed up. Imagine not being a patron at this point. I honestly can't. Couldn't be me. I honestly can't.

Just get in the optimized tier. Understand that it's just a necessary thing. Oh, just do it. And I don't know if you guys have heard of this show called Stranger Things. Came out today. Have heard of it. Tomorrow. I'm sorry. It could have been.

I don't know. I think it's the fourth. You can't look it up. It comes out on the fourth. It's hard to say. Either way, we are going to be breaking this down on the optimized tier 100%. If you guys like touching things, if you guys remember that, it was just me and Will. We're going to add Dorn now.

I don't even think Dorn likes the show. I do like the show. Touching Things was the most listened to episode in Grand X Labs history. Just putting that out there. I will give Will some props. He approached me with Touching Things, and at first I was like, I don't know if I want to do it. We did it, and it was fun as fuck.

I was like, we need to do this for more stuff. No, when we did it, I was like, man, we should have split it up because I was entertaining. It was. Talking about Billy was just like the easiest thing in the world he's a content machine people say i'm the billy of this podcast you're really kind of hard people say that you're the barb oh that's me that's this has been fun let's talk about our friends over at row back oh yeah as you know they're actually they were in san San Francisco per their Instagram story today,

and I really enjoyed it. They get out. Yeah, they get out a lot. They get out a little bit. Go to roback.com. Check out. I mean, you go there for their polo shirts, but you stay for their athletic wear.

Yes. Yes. Even though July 4th is about to pass, you won't be able to get your stuff in time. Their, like, patriotic stuff is off the chain, too. They know what they're doing. Get it for the Ryder Cup. Or just get it for just everyday wear.

What the hell? Yeah. Be an American. It's not that hard. Luckily for you guys, we've got a code CB20 for 20% off. That's CB as in circling back. 20 for 20% off. People are talking about them on our Reddit page, too.

Talking about how dope their stuff is. Yeah, like gassing it up. Yeah. People who don't have a dog in the fight like we do, they're still... We don't endorse dog fighting on this podcast. We don't, no. We don't have any dog in the fight. Literally.

Two puppies play fighting. Yeah. I took Rosie. I did what you did the other day. I had to take Rosie to the place today. Oh, Ram Man's actually probably getting there right now. They, he was like, oh, bring her over here. And so I handed over the leash.

This is her first time staying there? At this place, yeah. Everything was booked by the time we tried. Okay. So I gave him the leash and I was expecting him to like talk to her for a second or like let me say bye. He just ran off. He just took her in the back and I was like, oh, all right.

Bye, Rosie. See ya. See ya. It's tough. It's tough. I hate it. I feel like a loser. Do you feel like that when you drop the homie off?

Yeah, sometimes. I'm just like, fuck, man. Dude, he has so much fun there, though. It's cool. Like, all right, go do your thing, dog. Yeah. Does he have a girlfriend yet? He's got a crush on this girl in his class.

Hell yeah. It's pretty fucking cute, too. Does he tell you her name or anything? Yeah. Well, I was pulling up to school one time. How's your mom looking? This woman was getting out of her car or was getting in her car about to leave. He said, that's Emma's mom.

I said, who's Emma? He goes, just a girl in my class. I said, is she cute? He buried his head. He goes, oh, come on, man. He wanted to dig a hole and just climb into it. He goes, yeah. He thinks Emma's cute.

Now, if you bring Emma up, he has the same response to everybody. He says, I don't want to talk about it. He's like embarrassed. He's like. Dude, I was that. I was that way. I was embarrassed as hell as a kid about my crushes. I don't know why.

I was the same way. I feel like. But then when you get older, like you're very. I feel like I got blatant about it. I was like, no, I'm into her. But like as a kid, I never wanted it. Truth or dare. I was doing dare every time. I didn't want to get asked who my crush was. God, I'm into her. But like, as a kid, I never wanted it. Truth or dare, I was doing dare every time.

I didn't want to get asked who my crush was. God, that kid kills me. Sheesh, your girl's hot as shit. That's what, that's what. He didn't say that. Sheesh, your mom's hot as shit. That's what Dylan says. Emma's a solid name.

I didn't get a response whether or not Emma's mom was a snack. I don't really recall. Okay. Does she listen to the pod? Is she a back whether or not emma's mom was a snack uh i don't really recall okay does she listen to the pod is she a backer probably it's tight probably let's do this weekend and fun for the first time in this podcast history like this is our weekend like this is the this is our friday even though it's wednesday that's one way of looking at it yeah like we we're not doing it too early sure i feel like wed Wednesday is a little early for this weekend. I'm fine. I left a doctor's appointment the other day and I, it was,

uh, before I went out of town, I think it was like Wednesday afternoon. And I, I had, I said, all right, have a good weekend.

And they're like, look at me. I go, I'm really sorry. You have to work two more days this week. I was like, my bad. I work from home.

It's a weird sketch. Like, Oh, it's fine. I can't stop doing that. I can't even can't man i feel like a dickhead you gotta stop i know you gotta stop gotta use my brain more um i will start well well i mean no you won't oh we gotta talk about yeah because like as everyone knows this weekend of fun is sponsored by ice and howers in austin texas on rainy street yeah just get there and they have a couple more of their um bachelorette watch party mondays show up there during the airing of the show and

you watch it with the like like-minded people they have live music numerous days out of the week they've got cold drinks every day of the week they have thursday and thursday and sunday they do live music yeah some people call it ice and hours. I call it home. What if you walked in there and you're just pacing and you're just being really demonstrative and just like, come on! Like everything Luke P does, you're just going over the top.

This guy's really You kidding me? You're like clapping. Come on! Let's go Garrett! That're like clapping. Like, come on. Let's go, Garrett. That would be ridiculous. Dylan, what are you doing? As I mentioned earlier, big family weekend.

I can't wait. I will be at the ranch. We have the whole squad will be out there. I'm so excited. Are you going to kill some hogs to do the ass again? Probably not. But it's open season on those fuckers. Why are you just rectally murder some hogs to do the ass again probably not but it's open season on those those fuckers

why are you just rectally murdering hogs you know they're a real problem many reasons but we we actually the hog that I killed we used the meat

so you know I'm a proponent y'all used the meat even after you butt shot it took the bacon off the back we took

we took parts that we took that were still okay. Was it good? Oh, yeah. Okay. Anyway, my stepbrother and his wife and three kids will be out there. We don't see them too often.

They're coming down from Aledo, which is in the Dallas area. Oh, yeah, west of Fort Worth. Yes. Great football program. And the homie's so excited. He's hanging out with his cousins. He doesn't get to see them very much. And it's just going to be

a hell of a weekend. And then Sunday we're going to watch the ladies take home the World Cup. It's going to be tight. That's what's up. I bet you won't even watch it.

Oh, I'll watch it, bitch. You're not going to watch it. Fuck you, dude. You think Rapinoe's going to play? Or Rapinoe? It's hard to say. She might as well

just change her name to Rapinoe because no one's saying Rapinoe. I can't stop saying Rapinoe. Dave, what are you doing this weekend for fun, man? Why don't you calm down? Couldn't be calmer. Keep something to take, Dylan. Chill out.

Hold on. Can I ask Dylan one question before you go? Does hog taste like normal pig? It depends on several factors. Like if you shoot it through the butthole? If you shoot it through the butthole, then no. Yeah. It depends on the age of the hog mostly.

What were you shooting it with? Just like a deer rifle? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, and then I had a 9mm on my hip. That's what I took him down with. Keep that thing on you. Indiana Jones over here.

Jeez. Indiana Dorn. Yeah. Man. So this weekend for me going to Houston tomorrow actually today excuse me

going to Houston in-laws their whole family they do kind of a quasi reunion at one of their family members places got a nice place big good pool

sitch out there we uh we didn't go last summer but we've gone like the last three or four and we'll be there till come back friday i believe yeah come back friday so we're gonna do the fourth out there i don't know if we do fireworks we did them one year i didn't really i kind of watched the younger kids do them if we do them i'll be sure to get some good vids. Send them to me on Swag. Thank you. I'll hashtag Super Sage so y'all can see it. Yeah, put them on your story.

I will. But, yeah, it's pretty low-key. Look forward to it. Do some grilling. I'm going to, you know, show them what's up. Like, this is how you grill. You know, Dylan, of course. Grillmaster over here.

Yeah. Do your smoking skills translate to uh the grill hard to say is it okay we'll see though we'll see about it then that's in the actual weekend i mean i'm i really got nothing i'll be hanging out damn you should go to the ranch with Dylan you should come out to the ranch dog I might we'll kill a hog let's go Dylan your buddy's out here just shooting hogs

oh that's just Dave yeah he's on the pod he was wanting to come out here take a couple down well you will shooting any hogs this weekend no

your boy's going for the first time ever Well, you will. Shooting any hogs this weekend? No. Your boy's going for the first time ever. To Oklahoma. Never been. Crossing the Great Red. I'm a little hesitant to go there because there's rumors swirling about how they roll their joints all wrong up there. But I think I'm going to give it a shot nonetheless. And, yeah, I'm going to Oklahoma.

I'm going to Tulsa. I'm flying out this afternoon going to have dinner in tulsa tonight spend the day in tulsa tomorrow doing some uh fourth of july shit and then friday we're hitting the lake we're going to grand lake so i plan on just fully getting tan as hell all again i think that might be the lake where the mountain lion was let's fucking from a couple weeks ago. Let's go. You better stay strapped.

Just saying. Probably just stay on the water. I think you'll be fine. I'll bring my bow. I don't think you want to go up against one of those with a bow. Have you ever seen my bow hunting skills? No. Something tells me you don't have them.

Dude, they're sick. Okay. They're sick. So, yeah. I don't know. I don't really know what to expect. I usually put a lot of effort into my 4th of July just because I like the 4th of July. This year I've done no planning. I'm along

for the ride. That's always nice. I think you might be impressed with certain parts of Oklahoma. I know you're flying in, but Lake Sedge might be nice. I don't think I'm going to see that much, to be honest. I think that our plans are pretty they're pretty set in stone and it's not like we're going to be traveling around a lot are you driving back? unfortunately yes

I'm breaking a rule of mine which is to never be in the car for more than like five hours at a time how long is that drive? six? seven? I really don't

I really don't want to do it I can't express it enough how much I don't want to do that. Get to Dallas, get out, maybe get a meal, stretch your legs, and then just hit it. You'll be fine. I hate driving. Just power through, man. I fucking hate driving.

You don't drive, though. You're a passenger. No, I mean, it's seven hours. I'm not going to make her drive the entire way. It's fucked up. All right. No, I've actually started liking driving more. I feel like it's easier to just be behind the wheel than it is to...

You can listen to some pods? I don't know. I don't like listening to podcasts when one other person's in the car. I feel like we're just wasting our... We could be having a conversation rather than listening to someone else's conversation. Does that make sense? But Sally and I also have different tastes in podcasts. I don't like true crime podcasts.

She loves them. Yeah, that's actually... that's, I have that. They do nothing for me. That's fair. Dr. Death. Is that a podcast? Yeah, it was, I did not like it at all. I was like, turn this shit off.

Damn, that sounds, that sounds scary. I don't like that. There's death in it. Yeah. I just want to hear people people like talk about elk meat and shit like dmt killing hogs killing hogs in the butt dorn style yeah totally dorn that hog yeah didn't you say you used to bring the herd on a lot of hog ass back in the day okay you're gonna see the horses they're always there yeah where do you keep them in the back uh got him come on got him yeah oh actually no two of the horses we have two horses about to give birth you're gonna help them while

we're out there you're gonna help them go live no one wants to see that no one wants to see that. No one wants to see that, Dave. You're not going to help them? I don't do well in situations like that. Who does? Do you all have a ranch hand? My stepdad is total alpha. So he knows how to help a horse get birthed. He is such an alpha.

He's a badass. So he grew up with this kind of shit? He grew up in Beaumont, but he's an outdoors guy. He's always building a fence right now by shit. He grew up in Beaumont, but he's an outdoors guy. Okay. He's always like he's building a fence right now by himself. He's just a badass. That's tight. You should go help him. He just puts out the vibe of a guy who just knows how to do shit.

He knows how to do everything. He's also an amazing cook. He does it all. It's fucking crazy. Takes care of my mom, who's sick as shit. He's just an all-star. He's an alpha. He is just a... He's an alpha. He is, man.

He fucking... Yeah. How many mini Coronas are you going to drink on the 4th? A thousand. Is that your drink of choice? I'll probably go heavy on Margs. I know it's not very American to do margaritas. For some reason, though, you know what?

This is... Whatever. I do Margs too on the 4th. I mix it up. Yeah. Marg's too on the phone. I mix it up. Yeah. How do you make your Marg? It's Blake's recipe. It's just lime juice, Cointreau, and tequila.

That's all it is. I don't know if I got the ratio, but they're very, very good. Sneaky strong, though. That's how homemade marks go. Yeah. If you're out there using mix at this point, like, what are you doing? You're an idiot.

What are you doing? Gross. You don't need to do that to yourself. Get out of here. It's not hard. That, like, lime green looking shit. Get out of here. Not even lime green.

It's like a fluorescent. It looks like it's, like, radioactive material. It's Ninja Turtle slime. Ectoplasm. Yeah. I love the feeling of the of like a lime juicer of squeezing the lime it's a great it's very satisfying fucking love it hey be careful out there with lime juice dude oh yeah don't get it on the skin oh yeah did you see my

tweet the other day i took it straight to the eye the other night i was trying to get my chill on and i was making this i was making a mark just was making a mark. Just doesn't feel good. No, it didn't feel good. But at the same time, it, it didn't last a long time, like the pain.

And so it was just a very like sharp pain in the beginning. And then it went away very quickly. Did you feel alive? It kind of like gave me a little energy. I was like, when you put too much, too much horseradish on your oyster and it kind of, you get that like eyeball and sinus burn real quick.

I love that, bro. I've never been a horseradish. I've never understood the horseradish on the oyster. I don't either, but I like it. I like horseradish, but I don't like it on the oyster. I don't get it, but I like it. When I'm eating oysters, I want something cool and refreshing, and putting the hot sauce or horseradish just takes me out of it.

Yeah, I get it. I don't know who thought of that, but I sure do enjoy it, boy. Boy? What's wrong, Dylan? Why are you sitting weird? I don't feel awesome. Are you about to poop your pants? No, I just don't feel great.

What's wrong? Dude, if you're about to poop your pants, please tell us. No, I'm not going to poop my pants. Give us your symptoms. We'll diagnose you. No. Let's get out of here.

Let's enjoy our 4th of July. Let's let the people out there enjoy their 4th of July. Be safe. Don't drink and drive. Don't drink and drive. Don't put your hand too close to the firework. Light fuse, get away. Yep.

Watch out for lime juice in the sun. Don't let it get on your skin because it'll burn the fuck out of you. Most importantly, enjoy your White Claws. Black Cherry. Goodbye. Black Cherry's taking over mango, by the way, for my favorite flavor White Claws. Black Cherry. Goodbye. Black Cherry's taking over Mango, by the way, for my favorite flavor. Claws up. Claws up.

Claws out. Bye. you