Circling Back - Masters Champions Dinners & Dirk

Episode Date: April 10, 2019

Dirk's retirement, Patrick Reed's Masters Champions Dinner menu, Brooks Koepka's cutting phase, his distaste for Dwyane Wade, and the terrible black hole photo that Twitter is having a field day with. Support us on Patreon and receive episodes every Friday for just $5 per month: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast (0:00) Fun & Easy Banter (5:55) Dirk's Retirement (28:32) The Black Hole Photo (43:52) Patrick Reed's Masters Dinner (1:08:01) This Weekend In Fun Rhoback: www.rhoback.com (code CIRCLE20 for 20% off) Fulton & Roark: www.fultonandroark.com (STEAM for 15% off) Twitter: www.twitter.com/circlingbackpod Instagram: www.instagram.com/circlingbackpod Visit: www.circlingbackpodcast.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/circling-back/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

all right we're back circling back podcast it's wednesday to my left, Dave Ruff. Guten tag. Are you doing the entire podcast in your native tongue, German? Unfortunately, that's all I know. Okay. That's not all you know. Hello, Will. Guten tag. This is weird.

I don't like sitting on this side, but we'll get to that. Okay. Dylan, what's up, man? What's up, player? How we doing? Glad to be here. Master's week still. Having fun.

I wish I had video. What the hell are you doing right now? I'm just happy, man. Life is good. What? I don't know. You sound a little rough. We're out of... You sound a little rough.

Mercury is no longer in retrograde. That's why I'm so happy. It's so big for the squad. I sound a little... I sound what? You sound a little rough. Kind of like me. I'm rough around the edges's so big for the squad. I sound a little, I sound what? I just, you sound like, you sound a little rough. Kind of like me. I'm rough around the edges, Dave.

You go on a late night? Did you go on a date last night or what? I did not. No, I did not go on a date last night, actually. I had dinner with Dallas and Parks. It was lovely. Oh, El Alma. Yeah.

I saw that. I think I liked your photo. Did you get the tacos con pato? No, I did not get the duck tacos. Did you get something with mole sauce? I got the enchiladas. The chicken ones. I don't know.

Mole chicken enchiladas? Their enchiladas are so fantastic. They're delicious. Do you guys like mole? I honestly don't, but I kind of like scrape it off and go put it to the side just to enjoy the chicken. On their duck enchiladas, I fuck with mole heavy. It's weird.

That's the only thing I like mole on. Mole, largely for me, doesn't do anything it's very rich yeah it's like it's a little too much it overpowers the rest of the food agreed it's kind of why i don't eat bacon on my cheeseburgers anymore because i feel like it overpowers man that's a bomb margarita too just one it was great and that's it well that's fantastic news thanks dave well some of you might be stirred right now and confused as to why dave is sitting to the left of me and not to the right of me that's in everybody's mind right like people are sitting at their desks like squirming they're uncomfortable they don't know what to do with themselves hand-wringing uh it's because we have a special guest in the room uh i actually met him for the first time this morning it's intern will how's it going well

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i need to hit them up and get some more of the t-shirts they're probably listening they're dope if you're listening send us an email uh should we get into it i mean we've already gotten kind of into it we can get we should really get deeper in dave our first thing on this in this rundown is about someone that's near and dear to you probably the reason you said Guten Tag at the beginning of this podcast. Oh, yeah. Let's get into it. What do you want to know? Your boy's final home game was last night.

Yes, it was. Dirk Day. If I sound a little bit off today, it's because I was up late watching the last home game of Dirk, 41, and what happened afterward, the post-game ceremonies, which were just so classy, first-class organization, just awesome. Did you all catch any of this on social media, like what went down? Yeah. I caught a minute of it, yeah.

Yeah? So, first of all, the game. And, by the way, how many shots did he take? Intern Will is a Dallas guy. I was going to ask that. So feel free to chime in, Intern Will. Yeah, I'm a Dallas guy. I grew up on the Mavs.

Dirt's career is actually older than I am. So, I've had dirt around my entire life. Wow. Really just no better athlete to represent a city. I don't think any star athlete is as loved by their hometown as dirt. Wow, you just made Dave's nice list. Well, I mean, let's be honest. The reason he's here is the Dallas thing.

This is why Will is in this chair right now. This is why we hired him. Yeah. No, look, I co-sign. I RT. I re-T what you just said. So, yeah, they played the Suns. You know, Suns are awful.

The rebuilding. Didn't matter. The Mavs legit went to dirt like the first eight possessions. Like, he took like the first five or six shots of the game they were trying to kobe they were feeding him they were feeding they were trying to kobe yeah it was it was amazing and he actually ended up with a pretty decent night uh 30 points most he's had in a couple years hit some shots everybody went nuts

it was fantastic and then after the game uh they they played a video and it was dirt talking about his heroes growing up you know basketball heroes did they play hero by creed no but they did play good riddance did they play hero by no you just never mind what else these are the questions i need to get asked they didn't go watch the video it's available on the twitter they and so dirk shouts out like this is an old interview of him saying like scotty pippen charles barkley detliff shrimp larry bird sean kemp he's like saying these are the guys like I really love their game, blah, blah, blah. And then the lights come on and those guys are all standing at center court.

Like insane. You got Chuck. Dude, you got Larry Bird at your retirement. They got Detlef out there. They got Detlef out there. Schaus Germany. Dude, Sean fucking Kemp. All-time NBA jam player right there

back in the day dylan used to play with him absolutely you sure did dude for me for me being uh in like seventh grade sixth grade we would lower the goal down to like dunk territory we were doing we were trying to do sean kemp jump dunks camp had he could sky man that guy could throw down he was was a beast, man. It was awesome. So they all passed the mic around, said some nice things about Dirk. Then Mike got around to Dirk, and he announced that this would be his last home game. And everybody kind of knew, but— Oh, I thought it was totally official.

No. Well, no. So Dirk's whole thing before the season was he didn't want to announce it before the season and then get a farewell tour and all that. Funny thing is, it kind of ended up happening organically anyway. Of course. That's always how it's going to go. So he would go to other arenas.

Like when he was in the Garden for the last time, the fans were going nuts. They were cheering, we want Dirk, when he was on the bench. It was an awesome season. Does Dirk and Pop have a good rapport with each other tonight's gonna be so we'll get to that yeah okay they have a great rapport uh I think I think tonight the Mavs their last game of the season is in San Antonio and I would expect the Spurs will do something nice maybe I bet Timmy D will be back um because you know their careers kind ofmy D will be back. Um, cause you know, their careers kind of,

they came up at about the same time and you know, they had some pretty insane battles in the playoffs. So, uh, yeah, man, it was, it was pretty emotional.

Dirk lost it mid game. They showed it, they showed a video of him. Uh, so like for his entire career, he would go to a children's hospital and no he didn't publicize it like nobody knew about it maybe a few people on the Mavs PR team but like no cameras and then finally a couple seasons ago a guy for the Dallas Morning News was like Dirk can I can I come shadow

you and write about this so he's like yeah that's fine so they played a video with like like you know images of him with these sick kids and stuff. And then they showed Dirk watching it, and he's losing it. He's crying on the court. It was super emotional, super well done. And just for me, I mean, Dirk's my number one guy for a number of reasons. And it was cool. And I was a little sad I wasn't up there for it, but the thought of just crying in public that many times, I was like, would I rather just be at home enjoying an IPA watching this or in public drunk off Bud Lights crying by myself?

It's tough. Both sound tight. It was so awesome, man. awesome man do you have anybody that like retired that gave you the same feeling no one ever are you like death like it's like you and celebrity deaths like you just don't give a fuck yeah i um and i respect dave's emotions here so i'm not trying to be insensitive but yeah it's sports sports just i don't they don't really tap into my emotional side too much i don't get attached to any big time. I mean, I've had, like, favorite players growing up, of course,

in all the major sports. But when they retire, you know, they retire, and I don't really get too emotionally involved. The thing about Dirk, as opposed to, like, when Emmitt retired or Troy, like, I was much younger then. but with Dirk um you know he came into the Mavs world when I was I think early on in high school like what 97 so actually probably eighth grade I'm old well don't look at me like that I see you looking at me you weren't born yet we get it I've had Dirk my entire life. He's about to enter the AD era.

Dirk, he came in. He was a Euro player. There wasn't a lot of success for these guys. He's a skinny kid, and he was not really great. His rookie year didn't go well. The fans rallied around him, but the ups and downs of his career, everybody knows the first time around versus the heat like there was everything that's being said about like say like a james harden or something like can't not a leader can't win the big one just add james

harden well no no i no i'm saying like i think james harden's gonna get one eventually i'm saying like i don't know you don't know not this year i don't know we You don't know? Not this year. I don't know. We actually talked about this on the mail-in yesterday. Whatever. But, yeah, like, so I've been through it all with him, and the Mavs have always been my favorite team. So when we finally won it, it was like, for me, super emotional, super awesome, for all my friends, really, for everybody from Dallas who was into basketball. So now to see him go away, and it's like,

I've spent so much time thinking about, like, this guy and this team in my life that it's like wow and now that's that's not there anymore it's pretty crazy wow sorry chris stops though kp we got kp we got luca hey that banner hangs forever though dave the only player the only player that i have that's dirk level and i think you can easily make the case that it's the exact same thing. This isn't saying it's better than Dirk and Dallas or anything like that. Nelson Cruz. I think they're on the exact same level would be Iserman. Yeah.

Because he transformed the franchise. He came in young, spent his entire career there, won championships, changed everything. And so that was the only thing i wish that i would have been a little older but i still got to see stanley cups at an age where i could drink so it's like whatever i don't know i guess he was no i couldn't drink for any eisman stanley cups now that i think about it you were doing it anyway, though.

But he did transform the team that would eventually win Stanley Cups, too. So I don't really care. I mean, the same thing about Dirk. You know, transformed the game. Like, redefined the position. Power forward position, you know. Was a shooter, a seven-foot, like, sharpshooter. It's just crazy.

The city loves him. He's been, like, he's the dude who anytime the mavs want him to do a bit because you know they better do in-game bits do videos and shit he's never said no there's so many they there's a there's all these montages on instagram of him like walking around with like a damn chicken head on or like doing a doing like he had good esb like sports center commercials yeah or and you know who else did a Mavs commercial with him? Our old friend Kayla. She can say that she was on camera with him. That's awesome.

Kayla. Kayla? I'm not doing it well. It was the Guess What Day It Is parody. It was awesome. Will, if you got anything. Intern Will, you got anything you want to say? When was your sports consciousness like birth? Because you were, what, born in 97? it was awesome well if you got anything intern will you got anything you want to say when when

was your sports consciousness like birth because you were what born in 97 i first point out that bill is wearing a a fret tee in here right now a fret pocket hell yeah okay go ahead hell yeah i'm blast that's not blast you're in college wear it fair enough um yeah my my sports consciousness came pretty early my my dad took me to Stars games from the time I was really young. So I was a hockey fan first. With that being said, I think if Texas was more of a hockey state, Madonna gets a similar treatment when he retires to what Dirk got. But that's neither here nor there.

Well, Madonna, they had a falling out. That's the problem. And he ended up on your Red Wings. It know what it is it was unfortunate i got i got very emotional when i found out he was joined to the red wings i do too man um anyway i yeah my um the 2005 finals the first run with the heat um was really the when I got when I became a really big Mavs fan I was pretty young still but like I still could understand how big of a deal that was and how cool that was and then just for Dirk to be able to keep that team keep that core group together and beat the the first year it was the first year i believe of the lebron wade bosh heat when they when they won that finals and that was just it's the greatest memory

of my of my sporting fandom is that championship it's the only championship a dallas team has won in my lifetime so oh you weren't around for my lifetime. Wow. Oh, you weren't around for the Cup. I was not. Holy shit. You weren't even born in 99? I was born in 2000. So your first year, Stars lose to the Devils in the finals. I know. I was bad luck, apparently.

You piece of shit. You said you were steaming on someone you just mentioned. Dwayne Wade. I was steaming indeed. Wait, time out. Turn the steam off. Whoa, whoa. Dave, get your ass over here.

You've got to go get a guest pass. Yeah, no. Is he going to get your referral fee if he actually joins? I'll split it with y'all. Wow. Get over here, Bill. We don't add these after the fact. We do these live. you're damn right do people

think we had that's no but they're so good no we actually turned the studio this is breaking news to me that this is really this is not added after the fact the only the only thing added after the fact is the actual sound of the steam getting turned on dude don't pull the curtain back that far yeah what the hell you'll let the steam. I like to whip a lot during the steam session. Yeah, no, we get that. Big time tie whip guy. It's usually aimed at me. The floor is yours again, Bill.

What's up? So I'm steaming on Dwayne Wade, who as a Dallas sports fan is down there with my least favorite athletes. I think it's him and, uh, and David freeze are my only two, the only two athletes who I cannot stand for obvious reasons.

Both have stolen championships from me. Um, yeah. And now D Wade is trying to steal the spotlight from my man, Dirk, as Dirk tries to ride off into the sunset. Wow. D-Wade has done the whole announced retirement, announced going away tour this whole season,

and now is trying to come at Dirk, who didn't even officially announce that he was retiring until the end of the game last night. Dirk is just so beloved that everyone wants to give him this anyway, and yet D-Wade claims that he's the one looking for attention. I'm steaming on this guy. Let the hate flow. Let the hate flow through you.

I have a question. I'm only going to pose it to Dylan. Okay. That smirk on your face. I'm scared. I was thinking about this this morning okay i'm not asking you to because i know your answers dylan would you rather have dirk's career or dillian wade's career

um because dirk dirk on like what i love about dirirk's career is he did it all in one city. Yes. That's really cool to me. I love it when legends spend their entire careers in one city. It doesn't happen anymore. Wade has two, three rings? How many does he have?

Three. Three rings? Yeah, I'll take Dwayne Wade's career just for that reason. Three to one. It's a hard question for me when I was thinking about it because Dirk is so likable for all the right reasons.

No, Greg, yeah, Dirk's a great dude. But if I'm trying to ring up, I want one. Then you may as well take Robert Ory's career. With respect to... No, I see, Dave, I see this. Don't come in the same room and ask that question. Don't expect me to shut my mouth over here. With respect to Bill's steam session,

I think Dwayne Wade is also a great dude, too, right? Has he been in the news for anything negative? I don't think he has. Seems like a good dude, too. He gets his butt eaten. That's great. I mean, on the topic of rings, you have to... Behind closed doors.

I love Bill's steam. I think Wade has one ring that's comparable to Dirk's. He won the one in 05 and then shack and then won two with lebron and bosh yeah he rode lebron's coattails let's be honest no yeah no oh yeah no i'm pretty sure that if i'm pretty sure i don't know which championship but i think wade had some phenomenal stats okay dwayneane Wade is a bona fide superstar. 100%. Absolutely. Obviously, LeBron was... Dude, Dwyane Wade's one of the top 500 players of all time.

But it's not like Horace Grant on the Bulls. I mean... Don't fucking hate on Horace. I don't like Robert Ory. It's not like Big Shot Bob. He got rings because Scotty Pippen and Michael Jordan were his teammates. Scotty Pippen. Like,

I understand what you're saying about Robert Ory. Robert Ory. I was just... No, no, I get that. I'm just jerking around. If you're just championship hunting, like, yeah, being Robert Ory, the getting's good. What, five or six? I don't know. He had... I'm not a big Ory guy. Look it up. I love Robert Ory. You've never had a big shot go against you then.

Big shot Bob. Some might say it's seven rings. Wow. Yeah. Didn't Maren Morris sing that song? Yeah. Okay. No one talks about that though.

Yeah. No, it's fair. But here's a... Dirk transcended the game. He changed the way his position was played. I would argue, I don't... There's two titles I don't recognize. Wow.

Sorry. Robert Urie don't recognize. Wow. Sorry. Robert Urie has seven rings. Yeah. 94, 95, 2001. I'm sorry. 94, 95, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2007. It's insane. That's nuts. What teams?

Do you not have that readily available? I don't have that readily available. He played for the Rockets, the Suns, the Lakers, and the Spurs. Why did I say Bowles? He won one with the Rockets, it looks like. Oh, that's right. I knew that. None with the Suns.

And then Lakers and Spurs. Right place, right time. Also, I mean, a legit role player. Like, he wasn't just a spare. He just sat up in the corner and waited for the ball to come to him. You don't get to nickname Big Shot Bob without hitting big shots. No. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Dwayne Wade is a role

player equivalent to Robert Ory. I'm just saying you add LeBron James then that is a significant help to get two more rings. Absolutely. The way that I look at it is that the reason i think that's a valid question to ask a non-dallas fan is just because uh

wade was still one of the two best players on the team it wasn't like he was just like floating around like oh i'm gonna join this super team like he was already there he yeah he he he got some good pat riley Riley assists in those championships. But everything with what Wade's done, and Wade's awesome, dude. I mean, he's an awesome player. But everything that he's done this season in his farewell thing, like the jersey swap with Dirk, it all feels manufactured. You know he has a crew?

He has a documentary crew following him around. And I believe that's why the jersey swapped happened with Dirk. Because Dirk doesn't want to do that with him. I didn't know we were doing expose him. Well, we're in the steam room, are we not? Expose him! No, I mean, this is out there. You can't combine the two segments.

No, exposing the steam room is usually frowned upon. But today we are doing it. Okay, so I don't know. And he made some comments recently uh dwayne d-way did like i don't want to be out there in my i don't know what his exact words were and i don't want to be out there on the bench playing 15 minutes a night having the crowd chant for me to come in and play which is exactly what's happening with dirk so people took that as shade at dirk so that spawned this whole Twitter thing. And then D-Wade came out and had this tweet like,

why are y'all doing this? Dirk is great in all caps, as am I. And it's like, dude, yeah, we get it, man. There's been this tension with Dirk throughout their entire careers, ever since the finals, I guess. And you can tell that deep down, Dirk probably doesn't really like him, but Dirk's been playing nice with him because he's Dirk hit throughout their entire careers, ever since the finals, I guess. And it's just, you can tell that deep down, Dirk probably doesn't really like him, but Dirk's been playing nice with him because he's Dirk.

That's my take. Yes, it's Dallas biased. I recognize D Wade is like a top 20 player of all time. But for me, I'll just go out and say it. Give me Dirk's career. Well, I just did a Twitter search. I searched at D. Carter Ruff and the word Wade. Oh, please don't do this.

It's not bad. Oh, okay. You did say, you said on the 11th of May, 2016. Oh, no. You said you're not a real Stars fan unless you switch over to TNT to root against D. Wade. No idea what that's in reference to. But January 12th, 2012. You said to Ross Bolin.

I'm shocked Wade didn't get carded off the court. Oh, and LeBron is still not clutch. It appears as though the parent tweet to that has been deleted. Or the tweet was done so long ago that Twitter doesn't know how to register. Who's the parent tweet, Ross? Yeah. Ross and I were heavy into NBA Twitter back in the day. We still kind of are, but back then it was just mainly me and him.

We would go back and forth, give and takes. Wow. You might want to stop before you go back too far. 25th of December, 2012. I missed a D-weight injury, but I'm sure it looked way worse than it really is. Hashtag sports tweet. Let's fucking go, man. that's a good sports tweet you know i'm riding and the final one spending your christmas days tweeting about weds and nothing nothing pathetic about that the final tweet is from july 11 2014 and you said no i don't know what you're referring to here. Okay. But it says, okay, but where's D Wade and all this?

And see, I don't know. You've had beef with him for a long time. Every Mavs fan has forever, dude. I know, I know. I'm just saying, like, I enjoy the fact that you have, like, old tweets about D Wade. Yeah. Dude, look, I got the takes, man. I brought the flamethrower.

I'm not afraid to use it. Well, that was fun. Are we done steaming? Yeah. Should we turn it off? Turn it off. It's getting hot in here. Hey, to all the listeners, thank you, and to y'all, thanks for letting me do a little Dirk's egg. Of course. I hadn't really gotten to talk about it. I almost wrote something,

and then I was like, I can't even put it into words, and there's been other people who have written way better things. So fuck it. I'll just, you can do it for the athletic. Do you think they'd have me? Maybe they're having everybody else. Ooh.

It seems like they'd give us a nod, right? Damn. That's not shade. Shouts to her. I don't pay for the, I don't pay for content, but Hey,

shots to noted backer, uh, Jake Kemp, the athletic zone. You actually tweeted at him. I, I om to noted backer Jake Kemp, The Athletic's Own. You actually tweeted at him. I omitted this one. Do you want that one? Yeah, let's hear it.

All right. You actually tweeted at him on July 9th, 2014. Oh, no. When the season's not even going on. So you're off-season NBA Twitter day. There is no off-season. You said, again, we don't know the parent tweet because Twitter's not putting these together. But you said, but where will D. Wade end up?

And then if my calculations are correct, you used one, two, three, four, five, six, seven question marks after that. So it seems like you were quite sarcastic here. Yeah, maybe so. Sounds like I need to reevaluate my Twitter strategy. I respect it. Alright, I gotta go shower up. Get out of here. Go let Randy out.

Should we talk about this black hole photo that got dropped today? I just saw this on the rundown and I hadn't seen it yet, so I went to go look at it. So I'm now caught up on the black hole situation. What are your thoughts on it? My thoughts are it looks like a Spaghetti-O. The letter O. It really does. What is it? Alphabet soup? Is that what looks like a Spaghetti-O. Like the letter O. It really does. What is it?

Alphabet soup? Is that what it is? Spaghetti-Os will work too. Are they a circle? Yeah. Okay. That's what it looks like. Spaghetti-Os, dude.

Oh, yeah. Spaghetti-Os. Come on. It's like a Spaghetti-O. It's not just a bowl of spaghetti. Shut up. Will, have you seen this photo? I have.

I thought it was fairly underwhelming. I was also surprised that you can see a black hole in a photo it seems like something that would not appear until you were getting sucked into it yeah i i do you know how they took this photo dave uh you gotta think with like a five megapixel camera it's like it was an iphone dude they didn't even portrait mode it like this is a trash photo once you get that tweet off according to let's see this guy his name is tom randall uh he works for bloomberg i don't know how accurate this is but he works for bloomberg he says the messier 87 supermassive black hole has roughly the same mass as and i don't even know how to say this number because

it's so long but it's two three1 and then let's see 13 zeros give or take a few hundred trillion. Wow. So it seems like it's a fairly big thing. Pretty interesting

that they named this after Mark Messier former Rangers great. Yeah that is cool. Yeah I don't think he realized that when he won the cup. Messier 87

super massive black hole. How is this the first ever picture? As Will said everyone gets sucked in when they try to get a grandma. It's like trying to get a photo of a mountain lion. Hey, what's the deal with a black hole? What goes on in there?

See, we don't know. It just sucks everything in. It sucks matter in. And then what happens to the matter? Well, I don't know. I think it goes to another dimension. If I happen to just float through a black hole, you're never going to see me again?

Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah. Okay. I have a if i happen to just float through a black hole you're never going to see me again is that you're trying to say yeah okay i have a major issue with like how long they were hyping this black hole photo like they've been gassing it up for like weeks now first ever picture they could have at least facetuned it dude do something to it it looks like like they could have just dropped their phone like under their bed and accidentally taken a photo of something, and it would have looked the exact same. Are we even sure this is real? That's the thing. Look, NASA's tweeting about it. Yeah, but they also claim they landed on the moon, and we know that's not true.

Will, you're going to get flamed for that. Be careful. I know. I don't need Ross's mom coming at me again. What did she say? I know. I don't need Ross's mom coming at me again. What did she say?

She did not like my take that I was suspicious of the moon landing. It is 53.4. I don't either. 53.49 million light years away from Earth. So how long is that going to take it to get here? It also strengthens Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity. Yeah, I've been saying that that might happen. Did not know that. Yeah.

That guy, just a smart dude. Were people saying that that was weak, his argument? No, I don't think so. This just adds a little gusto to it. If you remember back in the 90s, Chris Cornell, rest in peace, said, Black Hole Sun, won't you come? Ew. Here's another fact.

Black Hole Sun, won't you what? According to Reuters. Is that how you say that, Reuters? Do you like Soundgarden? A little bit. Yeah, cool. I'm tight. That's tight as fuck.

According to Reuters, we now know that a black hole, the black hole weighs 6.5 billion times what the sun weighs. How does a hole have any weight to it? I don't, this is beyond my comprehension, obviously. My brain just doesn't go there. That's crazy. Like, I'm really bad at science. science was always one of my worst subjects chemistry physics not good at it i i don't like i think of black holes as just taking you to an alternate universe that's that's honestly

kind of what i think like i don't know how to tell me prove me wrong yeah prove me i'm wrong like who's to say they don't yeah like i just don't understand like what i don't know how to explain it. Prove me wrong. Who's to say they don't? I just don't understand. Space is one of the things in the world that just cripples my brain. If I start thinking about it too hard, it makes me feel sweaty and gross. Here's another one for you.

Are you ready? I like that you're just giving black hole stats. The Messier 87. Nothing can scrape its gravitational pull. Not even light that's the thing about black holes that's light goes in never seen again what which i don't know how does i don't get how that works that's what thing about it man you know in harry potter when that dude is just like sucking things like like sucking their souls out or whatever no that's

a fire that's a firefest documentary. I'm just imagining the black hole doing that to people. Wait, what people? Black holes. I'm not trying to fuck with the black hole. No, you remember when the... Were you ever a Simpsons guy? No, I don't like the Simpsons. What about you, Will? I do like the Kid Rock episode. Simpsons is trash.

The Kid Rock episode was really good. I'm going to fuck right off. This reference would not have landed. I respect The Simpsons. I respect The Simpsons in the same way I respect Dirk. Don't do that. It changed the game. Actually, do that. They've been around forever.

And they're going to go down as a legend of television. So I respect it in the same way I respect Dirk. But I don't watch. Don't make me... You're very close. You're kind of on thin ice. No, no. I'm not talking...

I'm about to go miss his dad on you. I'm not of on thin ice no no i'm not about to go ms's dad i'm not talking i'm not talking trash about dirk i'm just saying do we really not know what happens inside these holes no because nothing can come out they can't they can't there's not like there's not like one survivor that they can just pull aside and be like so what happened so there's like a simpsons episode i'm doing it anyway we're like homer somehow goes through i don't know if it's like a portal or a wormhole but but he ends up in this like 2D world. And I have a thought that maybe that's what happens. You just end up in another world and like you're flat.

Well, The Simpsons is historically adept at predicting the future. He makes a good point. It could be accurate. You never know. You never know. I want somebody to ride like a surfboard into a black hole. It could be accurate. You never know. You never know. I want somebody to ride like a surfboard into a black hole. Somebody on Reddit asked,

what's inside of black holes and where do they lead? And because everything on Reddit is factually correct, I'm going to read the top response, which said, this is one of life's greatest mysteries as of right now. No one can tell you for sure. All we know is that there's lots of gravity in there, oh okay really going out on a limb there the best we can get is the knowledge of the event horizon which is a point at which nothing not even light can escape from the black hole because everything beyond the event horizon is sucked in and becomes unobservable it is currently a stone wall for scientists how close do they have to get to this black hole in order to take a pic?

How do they not just lose everything they shoot into space? You got to get close enough to where, you know, when you're doing a portrait mode and it says like, get closer. Yeah. That's what they did. They finally got it. You got to get that close. It's like you have to be within eight feet. Yeah.

And then by that time it's too late. They were just holding onto his legs as he was just floating there with the iPhone in his hands? They're doing the Ted Cruz National Championship selfie in front of the black hole. Someone needs to do that. The Messier 87 is brighter on the lower side

because the star that collapsed had an angular momentum that is conserved so the black hole rotates. Okay. Yeah. It's just wild shit. No one talks about that. Yeah, no one talks about the brighter side of the black hole rotates. Okay. Yeah. It's just wild shit. No one talks about that. Yeah.

No one talks about the brighter side of the black hole. I mean, the dude who took it probably is like kicking himself. He didn't get a selfie with it. He just got caught up in the moment. I don't think he would have captured the whole, you know, situation. I heard his face been part of the frame. Well, everyone knows just one dude took it. I heard it was actually a PGA champion, Jimmy Walker.

You beat me to it. I was about to say that. He's probably, is he going off on Twitter right now about it? He probably loves it. He's in Augusta. So? I get the feeling he likes stars more than he likes golf. I think he likes shooting rifles and grilling meats on his Traeger.

And yeah, the telescope's more than golf. Which honestly, I kind of do too. likes golf i think he likes shooting rifles and grilling meats on his traeger and yeah the telescope's more than golf which honestly i kind of do too and it'd just be swallowing shit up never to be seen again it's hungry well how does a black hole have a brighter side if it sucks in light that's that's maybe it's not sucked it in yet again this is beyond my level of comprehension when you know but the black hole keeps sucking yeah light yeah come on that star's just nothing okay it's that's insane what do all the other stars do when one of their like squad members starts getting sucked into a black hole that's how supernovas are formed do you try to help it out or do you just like fucking sprint like the cops are coming you just go run in there's nothing you can do and people are

memeing this already too it's a trash photo i feel like nasa's got to do better than this dude it's the first ever photo taken of this thing ever so you get me happy with the first one right off the bat it's 2019 like everything's hd it's 53 million light years away will is it 4k i don't know if there if any if any listeners out there have like really good a really good space documentary that's free to stream on like netflix or hulu or something hit me up because i'm in oh i'm sure ne sure Neil deGrasse or Morgan Freeman has narrated some kind of deal. I'm a David Attenborough guy,

but he's only really doing like on earth stuff. Oh, no, we're, dude. No, man, we're in another level than that. Another dimension? We're leveling up. I'm on Pluto. But we don't support Morgan Freeman.

We're an anti-Morgan Freeman podcast, right? Did we come to that conclusion? I think we kind of did. Oh, yeah. I think we kind of had to do that. What are your thoughts? On Black Holes or Morgan Freeman? Just space in general.

Has Morgan Freeman put out a good movie since he was born? Will? Yeah. I can't think of it, but he has. Okay. He hasn't put out a lot of heaters lately. I mean, Morgan Freeman, my impression of him during my lifetime

is just like the general supporting actor with a great voice. I can't really think of anything other than Shawshank Redemption that I've... What's your favorite movie? Got the hard-hitting questions. Probably cliche to say Shawshank Redemption. It's up there.

We just entered the black hole. I'm a big fan of Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Oh, dude, what? Classic. Look at this, dude. You could easily toss on a wings jersey and be Cameron for Halloween if you wanted to. That would actually be a good costume for you. Not telling you what to do.

My dad's going to kill me. You know what? I hate my dad. I completely take back my statement about Morgan Freeman since the year 2000 when Will was born. Oh, let's just go through the list. He's got some really good ones. Give us his top three.

I don't know. The Sum of All Fears. Batman movies. I forgot that he was in all in those gone baby gone i mean this movie's trash but i i was highly uh entertained by it wanted um was he in seven i yes he was 1995 the Lego movie people were really impressed with that did the homies see the Lego movie I don't believe so what's your favorite comedy favorite comedy

that's tough I really like Dazed and Confused oh hell yeah you're old school I have a quick question does Will sound a little bit like Frat Dave yeah I think so Hell yeah. Dude, you're old school. You're checking all the boxes. Dude, you got the job. I have a quick question. Let's go. Does Will sound a little bit like Frat Dave?

Yeah, I think so. I see some similarities. Oh, man. He's Frat Will. He's Frat Will. Yeah. Should we call him Frat Will instead of Intern Will? I just want to hear Frat Dave and Frat Will talk about, you know, like... Like whether or not Tanner's going to take the internship this summer if he's gonna if

they can still get on the country club without him and how the alpha fees are looking this year stuff like that you can hop into that conversation no i can't i don't know speaking of outfit i'm very confused by the pronunciation of outfit because why is it fee for some sororities but five for others when it's the same letter these are the hard-hitting questions that we brought you in for. They think they're special by pronouncing it that way. It sounds a little more approachable

if it's phi versus alpha phi. It sounds a little more defiant. Maybe because phi is indefiant. Actually, I've got to look at their upcoming pledge class. I'm calling them alpha fine because they're so fucking hot. It's so stupid. i know i'm stupid drunk right now still are you just double faded up what'd you drink last night god we were drinking everclear what yeah homemade shit did you put it in anything like was it in like a jungle juice or you guys just ripping shots sunny d

ew sunny delight yeah we got pretty twisted. Ew. Yeah, it was weird. It was weird. Was the party fun, though? It was a Tuesday night, but they had a dollar you call. It's down at Dizzy Rooster. Really? Yeah, we were all there.

Fucking Jenkins was there. Just you and the whole... Jenkins was there? Yeah, Jenkins. Just the whole chapter was with you? Not the whole... Nah, we don't fuck with those guys. Oh, okay.

Just like the ones that matter. I got you. Boys. Yeah, just my PBs. My PBs. Your PBs. We got anything else? Yes, we have a lot else.

Let's just do a hard stop right now and talk about Fulton and Roar real quick. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I use a 201 body wash every single day now. It's in my rotation and it's not getting out of my rotation. I started taking it to the gym because... And they just...

Did you take your big bottle? No, that's too much. I don't want to cause a scene. Yeah. You'd have dudes come up to you like, come on, man, give me some. The gym just replaced the body wash and the showers. Yeah. It's good stuff.

Have you lobbied to get Fulton and Rourke in there? But it's not Fulton and Rourke. Why didn't you lobby to get that? I don't know if that's really worth it. Just calm down. They've helped us out. Why don't we help them out? You know what?

I'll lobby today. I'll go up to the manager on duty. I'll be like, yo, what's up with this? You don't have Fulton and Rourke in the show? Just give them one of the sample things and be like, hey, try this. Like, try this, bitch. Let me know. That might not get you very far.

Well, we'll see. You might get management called on you. That's true. You can't just call the front desk people bitches. Okay. We'll move on from that. Either way. Fulton fulton rock if you go to fulton rock dot com you can use promo code steam for 15 percent percent off of your order they've got more than just body wash too oh yeah they have well just to be clear their body wash is more than just body wash it's two in one they have a wax-based cologne are you in the cologne game yet bill i'm not in the cologne you need to try the palmetto because it's palmetto season i've got some extras i'm gonna bring you some sounds like fun because you smell like shit right now

yeah you smell like you smell like you smell like you slept at the frat house you smell like kentucky gentleman right now they also have some of our favorite products uh i'm talking specifically about the aftershave cloths those are great uh former producer mike i used to say that he used to put them in his carry-on bag and use them after a flight and i tried it one time and i've been doing it ever since it's the only it's a great move it's so good uh but yeah they got a bunch of other stuff too candles the face wash you can get face wash they've got uh face cream they got it all again that's fullnorec.com use promo code steam 15 off do it uh let's talk about patrick reed his master's menu got released yesterday we put it up on at circling back on twitter

yeah we did um it got mixed reviews from the backers out there. Yeah. I was disappointed in a lot of backers. Have we gone back and listened to what we said we were going to do for our menu? Because I feel like this sounds very similar to what you said, Dave. Which is why I totally co-sign. I re-T everything he's done here. Re-T is what people call retweet now.

The steak, the wedge salad. Also has a golf connotation. He did a Caesar salad and a wedge salad, which... He's playing to all the audiences abroad. What do you think about his wedge salad having buttermilk vinaigrette and not buttermilk ranch? It's a new twist on an old classic. On the wedge? Normally, I'm a tradition guy, but I twist on an old classic. On the wedge? And normally I'm a tradition guy,

but I'm willing to try it. On the wedge. I don't think there's any right or wrong dressing. I think blue cheese is most traditional. You can do ranch, or you can do the buttermilk vinaigrette. His menu, the options, it sounds delicious. And I have no problem with it, really.

But I would like to see a little flair. So, if people haven't seen this, he says... I call it basic. For the first course, it's either a Caesar or a Wedge. For the main course, it's a prime bone-in cowboy ribeye with herb butter. Cowboy style. If you don't want the ribeye,

maybe you're in a cutting phase, which we'll get to in a second, you can also order the Mountain Trout. And then for sides, he has macaroni and cheese, cream spinach, corn creme brulee, steamed broccoli. And for dessert, he's got a tiramisu, a vanilla bean creme brulee, and a chocolate crunch and praline cheesecake. Here's my issue with it.

I can go to Roots Chris tonight, and these are the most basic options on the menu like this is this is what everyone gets these these things a steak broccoli mac and cheese creme brulee like it's just too basic for me delicious yes i would go to town on this meal it'd be great i'm sure they all have what's up i don't know what he was but he's from houston okay what what what houston cuisine outside of a dope cowboy ribeye? It doesn't have to be regional. It could be something that he's like some quirky food that he's really into

that he wants everyone to try. I don't know. Just something. Add a little personal flair to it is all I'm saying. I think it's 10 of 10. Knocked it out of the park. It might taste 10 of 10. Like Spieth did barbecue.

Yeah. I guess he's from 10. Like Spieth did barbecue. Yeah. I guess he's from Texas. Exactly. That's fine for me. You guessed that up, and you're poo-pooing to quote Will this. Because it's a regional food. So is a cowboy ribeye. Texas is known for their beef, despite what Brooks Koepka might tell you.

So is Nebraska and many other places. Texas' state motto is actually, we've got the beef. Absolutely. It's not. Thank you. It's not. Facts. I don't know.

It made all the sense in the world. And last night when the master's Instagram account dropped a photo of that cowboy ribeye, oh my. It looked delicious. Full baguette? Beto O'Tort. Steamed broccoli. That's a real male inside, though.

Yeah, give me spinach. He's got the cream spinach. Oh, yeah. Give him mashed potatoes. Some tates? Is there really no potato on this menu? Give me all gratin. Is there no... Steak with no potatoes for a side option? Thank you. Frat Will is so correct about this.

Yeah. That is the one glaring omission from this entire menu is there not a starch at all no i i'll be honest like the only starch i know is potato like what other starches are there what falls into the starch category that's the thing no one really knows it's kind of like what happens in rice isn't rice a starch i don't know sure i'm not good at that well you know if it were me you know i don't i think my i'm out of my prime i have no chance at winning the masters but never it's me i'm just going steak and wedge salad wow you guys don't get sides well you know i will offer a fish

option but the option is going to be the uh little little can of sardines that i mean you never win the mess i would low-key go with the mountain trout be there like the mountain trout might be really good it might i bet it is good i don't know but you never want the Masters. I would low-key go with the mountain trout. You will never be there. The mountain trout might be really good. It might go real hard. I bet it is good. I don't know, but you never want the secondary thing to be the fish because they're not going to put as much effort into it, and so you might get some real bootleg fish. It's like the great conundrum when you go to a steakhouse. If I get this fish, which is very expensive, is it going to be as good as the steak would

have been? Trout also isn't one of my favorite fishes. Did y'all see the group pic from the dinner? No. Yeah, I think Zach Johnson actually got sucked into a black hole yeah what happened to his face i don't know we're on the same thing i hate seeing danny willett there though what a little jerk it's do you think anyone talks to him no he just sits there and everyone's just like yeah dude cool no yeah it's him and trevorelman. They buddy up. But if Kepka was a Masters winner and he was at this dinner, he would have to get the Mountain Trout, right?

You can't order a steak that's from the US. I'm honestly pulling for Kepka to win the Masters only to see what his menu is next year. It's going to be Wagyu. I hate to say it, but that's really a good take. I will put that into a tweet. Thank you. I actually did the tweet that you told me to tweet earlier. Is it doing it is yeah thank you thank you for telling me to do that hat tip at me

well what is what would your master's menu be if you won the masters do you have plans to win the masters um i don't i don't think my swing is there yet okay um we got some people you can talk to there's plenty of time for me though to come around get my get my game and pj2 reform um how old are you i'm 18 soon to be 19 i mean legit you're at the age you could do a hard pivot and get into like if you want to get into like mma wouldn't be that crazy you have your whole adulthood ahead of you like that's just wild to me you have the sweet bird of youth on your shoulder think about that man he's so young like dylan's you're you haven't lived two of his lives, but you're close to living two of his lives. Yeah.

Dylan could be your dad. Maybe I am. Who's to say? It's hard to say. Wow. You have everything in front of you. That's crazy. I'm burying the lead.

I want to know what he's going to get on his menu. Give us your menu. Okay, I'm, not to be boring, but I'm definitely doing something similar with steak of some sort. The cowboy ribeye looked fantastic. I think I'm kind of with Dave here that this is a solid menu. I think I just mixed up the sides a little more. I added mashed potatoes maybe. He did mac and cheese.

Was there not a mac and cheese on there? Yes, there was. So that's the that's the car you're right good call great call but i i maybe replaced the steamed broccoli or with with a mashed potato or maybe even like like some dope ass french fries yeah maybe some cajun fries yeah are you not a twice baked potato guy i'm not a huge baked potato guy i think it comes below the the mashed potatoes and the french fries in terms of potato preparation. Wow.

What about au gratin? Au gratin is solid. Solid. Yeah, it is. See, I would have subbed out the mac and cheese and done an au gratin potato if you're going to go real cheesy, naughty food. I don't know about naughty, but... No, keep that mac and cheese in there.

Everyone loves that. Mac and cheese is great, but I feel like when I eat it as a side, I get too full on it and I can't eat everything else. I like that mac and cheese in there everyone loves that mac and cheese is great but i feel like when i eat it as a side i get too full on it and i that's fair i can't eat everything else so i like standalone mac and if you're gonna go naughty you might want to mix in like a com quad or something but you know that's gross dude i'm just giving food options what i want to see is there like i hope i want there to be a website that has every master's menu that anyone's ever like ever done just so we can see who had the most trash one. Just roast it? Like what did Mike Weir do?

He's Canadian. Yeah. So he did like pasties and shit. What is a pastie? Isn't that the thing girls put on their nipples? Close, yeah. Or like runners?

That'd be fucked up if that's what Mike Weir was having. Do I eat these or I put them on my nipples? What food is native to canada i don't even know what is that uh isn't like called poutine isn't that the canadian thing that's something yeah i think you're right i've heard of this it's also what they called dylan in high school yeah that's true it was poo dash. I never understood it. Me neither, actually. I should know more Canadian foods. I just want to say french fries and gravy

from Super Troopers. I'm looking up Mike Weir's Master's Dinner. A beef wick sandwich. Did he go hard? Let's hear it. Did he fuck it up? Dude! He went chicken fried steak absolutely snapped on this dinner are you serious read it we don't know we don't tell us

elk wild boar arctic char which is a fish it's very similar to salmon and canadian beers yes my dude what were the sides, though? It was just an all protein beer. Save that. He went Joe Rogan. Save that. He went full Rogan. We need to put that out from circling back. Wow.

Mike Weird, he did snap. Do you guys want some other notable dinners? Yeah. I'm interested in VJs. Bernard Langer, Wienerschnitzel. Oh, y'all. Sandy Lyle did haggis, which is an aggressive move. Come on, Sandy.

Freddie Couples did chicken cacciatore. These are just class. It's a tasteful order. Bernard Longer. Didn't you just ask about him? No, VJ Singh. Oh, sorry. This is his 1994 dinner. He did turkey and dressing. Seems like a

gamesmanship move to make people fade. Wake up all groggy and shit. Seems like a gamesmanship move to make people like fade. Wake up all groggy and shit. It's not really a springtime meal. Faldo did fish and chips. Okay. Marco Mira, 1999.

Chicken fajitas, steak fajitas, sushi, and tuna sashimi. What? What are you doing mixing those? Going loco? Vijay.

Vijay has the longest explanation for his on here. It says, seafood tom-ka? It says Fijian. I don't know what tom-ka is. Chicken panang curry, baked sea scallops with garlic sauce, rack of lamb with yellow curry rice, baked filet chilean sea bass with three-flavored chili sauce.

That goes hard. And a lychee sorbet. That's a good one. He snapped a little bit. He did. Phil in 2005 did lobster ravioli. That makes sense. That actually makes all the sense in the world.

Give us a big cat one. Tiger Woods. Stuffed jalapeno and quesadilla appetizers with salsa and guacamole. Killed it with the teasers. Green salad. You really would. Steak and chicken fajitas, Mexican rice, refried beans, apple pie. That's classy.

Well, this was also like, I mean, Tiger's other one on here was 2002. He did a porterhouse steak. 1998, he did cheeseburgers, which I think 1998 was the year that Fuzzy Zeller made the very, very racist remark towards what he thought Tiger would have for the dinner. Not great. Not great. Yeah, you got to keep that one in the holster. Let me see if there's any other ones that need to get called tiger clap back with cheeseburgers i honestly love that i wonder who

prepared the cheeseburgers i know they prepared there but like who was modeled after adam scott low-key he's no he didn't low-key he high-key snapped it sounds like we're pretty much gassing up everybody surf and turf with a lobster appetizer of artichoke and arugula salad with calamari. The main course was wagyu beef New York strip. Served with said lobsters. Sauteed spinach, onion cream mashed potatoes. You went off. That might be my top.

It's sounding like the Masters Champion's Dinner is generally a very solid meal. Yeah. You're going to leave there happy. There's no question. It's like leaving like a luby's cafeteria a little bit yeah feeling just you're like you know what i enjoyed myself this meal just went off other than this car that tried to kill me yeah i feel great boy danny willett had he did a traditional british meal cottage pies which you know we're like we're we're meat pie

yeah i can't hate on that it's a's pie, but with beef rather than lamb. Okay. And then for the entree, he did a prime rib. Oh, hell yeah. People hate on prime rib, but... Not your boy. I love prime rib. I love me some prime rib.

I'll mess up a prime rib if I have to. And in closing, in the lamest move probably ever, Bubba Watson did the same dinner two nights in a row. What was it? I clicked out of the tab, so I'm delaying right now while it reloads. We can just assume it's trash. You're really treading water.

He did a traditional Caesar salad to start entree of grilled chicken breast with sides of green beans, mashed potatoes, corn, macaroni, and cheese served with cornbread. If you can order whatever you want and you put a chicken breast in front of me, I'm going to punch your face. I don't hate chicken. I'm going to punch your face.

A grilled chicken is... Come on. That can only taste so good. On a scale of 1 to 10, you're not getting above a 7 on the flavor. The best grilled chicken I've ever had was a 7. Yeah. It's such a cop-out. It's such a cop-out.

What a dickhead. He probably doesn't eat red meat because he's concerned about cholesterol and shit. What an absolute jerk. I'll throw that right back at you if you put it in front of me. That seems unnecessary, though. I'm going to throw it at Bubba. You go down to Hooters. Take this, bitch.

I'm just going to throw it across the table at him. You go meet JD at Hooters and sell some merch and eat some wings. Exactly. Bubba just sat there. They called him. They're like, hey, what do you want to serve for dinner? He's like, I don't know. Just do the same thing i did last year whatever not

last year but i hate him what a weird move well and he wins the masters this is like an incredible accomplishment to just earn this dinner and this and to celebrate his accomplishment with grilled he wants grilled chicken he may as well dropped his pants and just crapped in everybody's plate yeah there you go here's some turds. Hope you like turds. He served Arnold Palmer grilled fucking chicken. Holy shit. He's like, here you go, man.

Arnold Palmer's like, dude, I haven't eaten this shit in years. Arnold Palmer's like, fuck you, Bubba. Yeah, he's like, dude, what? No one's doing this, Bubba. So, Dave, will you explain what Brooks Kapka's currently doing and'm so pissed off about Bubba uh yeah so it came out Brooks has lost like 20 pounds and apparently he was trying to lose weight on a it's kind of a crash diet an 1800 1,800-calorie-a-day diet to prepare for his shoot on, what did I say, Sports Illustrated?

One of the bodies. The body issue. The body issue. Cutting season. So he's trying to cut, and in doing so, he's not having a great year. And he said he's lost 10 yards off the tee, which, I mean, Brooks, he's a power player. Normally a great putter, but a guy who can also bomb the ball. So, deadly combo.

And, yeah, so here we are. And he's getting flamed for it. Chambly twisted off on him last night on Live from the Masters, which, by the way, Live from the Masters should be on your tv at least one tv in your household at all times because it's been my background show i mean no matter what considering it's on for eight straight hours it's a pretty good background i used it to chase dirk last night after the dirk dirk night i threw it on and just calmed down it's television's annex it really is shambly called him out said it's self-abotage, the worst self-sabotage of an athlete in their prime he's ever seen,

which this is classic Chamblee going off, and maybe he's using some hyperbole. But I can think of a couple that might be a little worse. Like maybe Tiger Woods having sex with prostitutes behind his wife's back. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know if it was proven they're prostitutes i don't know so yeah so i don't know this is uh this is more fuel for the anti-brooks crowd

which i think there's a couple guys in this room who aren't big kepka guys and for me as being a kepka guy i can't really defend it because we live in the era of facetune and airbrush i mean if you want to get a little bit more cuts in maybe just spend a little bit more time in the sauna like the week going into the uh the photo shoot yeah just don't drink water the day before or go keto drain that water weight yeah uh this is you're already he's already in good shape he's not a cut guy but he's he's bulky enough he knows at least that he's gonna look better than prince fielder prince fielder looked good like he had a gut but he looked muscular and kind of scary yeah he's very put together big man yeah yeah absolute unit a unit but it's the same what happened to him in his neck situation you know oh god not a great not a great trade looking back on it. Neither team really soared after that.

No. Kinsler was consistent, though. Yeah, yeah. I like Kinsler. He was a good guy for us. That trade ruined Ian Kinsler for me. He was such a douche about Dallas after that. And ruined a guy that I loved growing up.

He didn't want to move positions for belts when they got Beltre. Another Dallas guy on the mic. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if I want two Dallas guys. I'm sorry. Look here. Can I hire a Michigan intern just because? I'd love that.

Well, we're not done. We might make some more moves here. Some splashes. Hey, we could get Magic Johnson. I don't know if we're going to get Magic. He's a free agent. Dude, you know he's a Michigan State guy, though. Yeah.

What could he bring to watch media, though? I don't want him to be our to get magic. He's a free agent. Dude, you know he's a Michigan State guy, though. What could he bring to watch media, though? I don't want him to be our president. He clearly failed at that. Yeah. Yeah. We could do him on an intern basis. See what happens. Can I hear your, uh, yeah, Bill?

Yeah. Oh, very good. Not terrible. He didn't even practice that. Hey, not terrible. Well, maybe he did at home. We don't know. Yeah, I was practicing.

He was doing it in the car. He was sitting outside earlier. I was just listening to that segment on loops. I was like, they're going to make me do the. Yeah, we play the hits here. What are your give me a knee jerk. Capita just in general. This is such a douchey move to me.

Oh, yeah. Cutting way for ESPN, the body issue. It's like not not even SportsCenter. It's the it's the lesser sports magazine and you're ruining your game for the body issue. A professional athlete who's changing his body for a photo shoot. You made a great point. We're in the age of Photoshop.

When you sign the contract to pose naked for ESPN, just say that you get final say. You're Brooks Koepka. Just swing it around a little bit and say that you get to choose. Swing what around specifically? His penis, Dylan. Oh, okay.

Thank you. I just don't see why he wouldn't just ask for the Photoshop. Or I feel like he's so dialed in with his workouts and he's with the best people on the planet, nutritionists. Just say, hey, I got this photo shoot in a couple weeks. Let's get me a little bit more vascular like what can we do it's like we're gonna get you on some uh some pump stuff some some nos we're gonna get you on a couple bang energies we're gonna get you real juiced up and you're gonna go in there and you're gonna look kind of shredded but you're gonna you're

gonna maintain your bulk because you're a naturally bulky guy i guess he is now if you look at his old college stuff he was he was skinny he was a skinny guy he was gonna boy well would it see his his brand it seems like he's always been being the bulky guy like he's posting videos bench-pressing before tournaments why is he trying to change that up now that he's posing naked like he just needs to embrace the bull but it seems to be his brand embrace the bulk where you're putting that on a t-shirt yep mm-hmm this is this is gonna be alongside the poach eggs not animals That seems to be his brand. Embrace the bulk where you're putting that on a t-shirt. Yep. This is going to be alongside the poach eggs, not animals t-shirt.

I like both of those. Dude, what he could have done, get off the creatine. You know, creatine makes you retain a little bit of water. You get off that. Just cycle off for a couple weeks. You're going to go in there looking shredded. Hey, Will, are we going to do that circling back big cat t-shirt? I don't know.

He's still a barstool. Yeah. We haven't announced him coming to watch media yet. We're getting Van Pelt and Big Cat. That shirt slaps high key and I would like

to wear one around. There are some potential issues with it in terms of printing but I think we can get around those. A lot of color in that particular design.

Just keep your head on a swivel for a May drop of t-shirts. I'll say that. It's quite early April right now. I'm drop of t-shirts. I'll say that. It's quite early April right now. I'm buying us some time. Okay. I can't wait.

Didn't you used to write for SI for Kids, right? I did. I wrote for SI for Kids back in the day. Do they have an SI for Kids body issue? Yeah, did you do that? They do not, unfortunately. I think that's like child pornography. What's wrong with you? I'm just asking

questions. So you're on record saying that you never posed for SI for Kids the body issue. I did not. I can't say that I wouldn't have considered if they had asked, but that question never came up. That's good. How did you get the gig of writing for SI for Kids?

So I read the SI for Kids magazine religiously when i was a youth even more so than i am now and uh there was like an ad that was like we want like kid bloggers like send us an email and write like a sample story and i was in like seventh grade and i was like this seems tight like i want to interview cool people and go to the Super Bowl and stuff. Never got to go to the Super Bowl. Dylan did. Sure did.

I got that gig for a while. That was pretty tight. I met Dirk during that run. Really? What year was this? I don't know. It was early. But I was interviewing Carlisle at the Mavs facility and Dirk was just like in the training room

and I was walking through and I was like, holy shit, that's Dirk, you know? And he like came up to me he's like hey man how are you doing that's pretty good Dirk yeah good Dirk yeah you know obviously it's uh tough being a kid and writing and vlogging but you got written up by channel 21 CBS Dallas holy shit whoa that's a great photo look at that photo oh Oh, that's tight. I'm currently reading a news article about how he wrote. Text for Sports Illustrated for Kids. We're tweeting.

Bill is showing us a picture of him as a child with Dirk. It was probably three years ago, as young as you are. But a pretty cool pic. Yeah, it's been a tough season, obviously. We had a lot of injuries to work through, but I thought we came together. And Dirk is gone. He gone. So, wait.

Didn't you do some stuff for the Dallas Morning News? This is now just you establishing cred. Yeah, so I interned for the Dallas Morning News before my senior year of high school. And did mostly high school sports covers for them, but got to do some. They sent me to Big 12 Media Day. I got to shadow the Rangers beat writer Evan Grant for a game. He's a beast.

We haven't even asked him about Killshot yet, which is crazy. Yeah, let's talk Killshot. You know Killshot. I do know Killshot. You know Killshot. I do know Killshot. Former intern Killshot. Did he haze you? I'm kidding. They're a non-hazing fraternity, Dave?

That's right. That's correct. It's a joke. I'm sorry. Do you know him very well, or are you both kind of acquaintances? I know Killshot pretty well. I got to know him pretty well during the first semester. He rode up to Dallas with me for the Big 12 Championship Games.

So we bonded during that car ride over listening to an episode of a former small to midsize podcast. Really? I'd love to hear that. Wow. He made you listen to the one that he was on? No. I was driving him and one of his friends.

Who was it? Was it Yinsky? Dude, fuck, that guy owes me money. We had a Yinsky. That guy owes me money. I'm fucking tired of that dude. He even pays dudes. He's fucked.

Some of my friends had recently discovered that Killshot was Killshot. Dennis, you can say this first. Dennis was Killshot. We had recently put two and two together. And so I asked him about it in the car. And he was like, yeah, that was me. And the other guy who was riding with us was like, I have to hear this. Like, you have to play this episode.

And so I pulled it up on SoundCloud. I think it was on SoundCloud. I think it was on SoundCloud. I wasn't even on Apple Podcasts. So you're the one. I'm kidding. Nobody uses SoundCloud. It's a joke. That's wild, man. I ruined the segment. Go ahead. That's big. I think that was the end of it. Hey, do you know what we should do right now?

This weekend in fun? Take a break so I can use the men's room? Can you hold it? I can. All we have to do is this weekend in fun. Okay. We have no music. Dylan, start us off. Oh, as always, this is presented by Eisenhower's on Rainy Street, Austin, Texas. Whether you're here for just like a night or a weekend or you live here, check out Eisenhower's.

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I know the shampoo effect. Good for you, man. A lot of people don't know it. I'm not old enough to drink, so I'm not super familiar. Oh, yeah, that's right. You don't drink yet. Good point. Yeah, that's cool.

He's heard stories from his older brothers who are legal. I know about it conceptually. Yeah. Sure. Makes sense. I will start my weekend in fun presented by eisenhower's on rainy street um i'm going to a wedding this weekend in galveston texas if you're unfamiliar it's along the coast uh my cousin's getting married on saturday i'm going

up there friday i'm coming back early sunday um and i'll be the Masters, of course, all day long on Sunday. I forgot that you're going to miss a lot of the Masters. I'm going to miss some of the Masters, but I'll catch most of it. Sounds like most of it, man. That sucks. I mean, the wedding's at night. Sounds like most of it. No, I'll be okay.

Sounds like a lot of the Masters will be missed. I'm going to catch a lot of the Masters. You should just DVR it and go dark and try to not have it spoiled. So we got the homies coming with me to the wedding. We got him a Navy suit, tie, everything. And I recently got a Navy suit as well. If I don't get the dopest gram off this weekend, I'm going to be very upset.

Alexa, play I'm upset. Or not yet. We'll wait until Monday. Yeah. You need to know whether or not the photo has gotten off. I'm going to try to blow minds with it but we'll see what happens dave what are you doing this weekend thanks for asking will yeah um at this moment i have no plans other than watching golf that's lame but that's where it starts for

me and that's where it ends i will i'm not saying I won't mix in some stuff. If there's a window to play a quick round of golf, I might be in for that. But honestly, anything that's going to affect my viewing, I can't do it. And I'm not trying to be a super golf guy, but this year, I'm really into it. It's like Christmas. I missed all of last year.

And also, this is a big sports week. We had dirt. Did we? Just say we. Just acknowledge this. We had dirt. We got Stars Preds starting tonight. Not sports, but we had Game of Thrones on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've got playoff hockey.

Will knows what I'm talking about. Will Forbes. And I'm going to be doing a lot of sporting this weekend. And then we got Game of Thrones Sunday night. Are you going to do sports tweets like you have? I am. I am going to do some old school vintage 2014 Dave sports tweets. Please don't unfollow me.

And if you do unfollow me, you know, whatever. Just be nice about it. What about you? Well, I'll be honest. I don't want to expose anybody, but I'm going to expose two people right now. One is Dylan and one is Intern Klein. And I put a text in our group text and I said, hey, does anybody want to play golf this weekend? The response that I got was dead silence for about three hours until finally I got a thumbs up reaction from Dave.

Thank you, Dave, for your reaction. Why are you calling me out? I'll be at late. You know I'll be out of town. I didn't realize that. But you can just say, like, you can say, like, oh, I have that wedding. Oh, yeah, thanks. I won't think about this anymore.

And then Clyde could be like, yeah, I'm going to the Masters. I thought you just accounted for me not being there. I wouldn't have texted you. I would have started a new text, dog. Really? Yeah. Yep. I will be back Sunday, but I'm not playing golf Sunday.

I know, but it's just like, you know, it wasn't that much to ask. At this point, like, it's definitely not happening. I do not apologize. Will, I hit you with that thumbs up late, and I was thinking, like, if we can make something happen, let's do it. Are you around all weekend? Mm-hmm. You want to do, like, I got to look at the schedule,

but do you want to do some stars playoff hockey with me one night uh maybe it may i'm just saying it's like the best offer but like i'll consider it i do have plans friday night i'm going to a group dinner with uh some dudes sally's brother sally's future brother-in-law i guess my future brother-in-law is that how it works well you're doing this on friday yep okay late dinner Something tells me your boy might be raging. A restaurant I've never been to. ATX Cocina. Oh, that's in my sights.

Okay. I've got that one coming up. I'll let you know. I've heard that they serve their guacamole with one large chip that you have to break it off of. I hate that. I feel like I wouldn't vibe with that place. I agree.

That's why I've always avoided it. A lot of people go there. It's been ascribed to me as a place where beautiful people go. And that's just not the kind of place I want to go. The guy who had an entire bit. Marilyn Manson's so twisted. Shouts to Demi for that description, by the way. The guy had an entire bit hot people only.

And he's like, oh, you know, I'm like a regular guy. I like crab beers. Yeah, don't try to blue collar it up right now. Don't overreact. I'm an east side guy. It just sounds like a swanky place to me. Shut up. Get the freak out of here. like a swanky place. Shut up. Get the freak out of here.

Modern and swanky. It's not, that's not how I get down. Uh, dude, that's a night where you're not going home after that. You're definitely going home. I'll be home at probably one. I'm going to say 1am that night. Uh, I would like to meet up afterwards. I'm really afraid that the dinner's late.

Like I said, like it's a late reservation and I don't know what I'm going to do with myself between like five o'clock and nine 30. I'm not going to pregame. No, I don't know what I'm gonna do with myself between like five o'clock and 9 30 I'm not gonna pre-game no like I don't know what to do like am I gonna have to nap so I can stay up late uh keep me in mind I'm going to dinner I believe with my wife Friday night after that maybe we'll meet up maybe maybe give it some boys thing you know they say Friday nights are for the boys I'm inviting myself into your plans. You even told me to keep you in mind, like the Zac Brown song. Thank you for that. But then I'm doing Masters the rest of the weekend.

Will, what are you doing this weekend, dog? I believe my mom and dad are coming in town. Oh, free weekend for you. Get some nice dinners off, watch the Masters and some playoff hockey with my pops should be a good time i'm looking forward to it that's big it's big time do you have any restaurants on the horizon you want to go to or um not nothing specific i trust i trust the real adults to make the decisions on on the culinary decision that's a good call man i'm jealous your entire weekend's gonna get paid for that's tight it's pretty pretty exciting stuff your entire weekend's gonna get paid for that's tight

it's pretty pretty exciting stuff is it your dad's name bill forbes my dad is also william forbes but he is he does by ross forbes so that's his middle name yeah y'all are definitely going to steakhouse that's steakhouse name well not to this is weird but my dad's name is ross really yeah This is weird, but my dad's name is Ross. Really? Yeah. That's weird. We're just two dudes.

Guys being dudes. You are two dudes. Well, this was an enjoyable podcast. It was. We covered a lot of ground. It was. I had fun. Again, if you want to hear us on Friday.

Dylan, did you have fun? I had fun. Patreon.com slash circling back podcast. I always ask that at the end of mail-in. Did you have fun? Dave's making fun of me. No, I'm not. How was Barrett no gas up your boy barrett was great man barrett of course of club cool podcast uh he's he's killed he kills it as

always barrett's a great guest great host of his own show thank you barrett if you're listening let's let's fold up shop today. Okay. Hey, plug your social. You can give me a follow on Twitter at WillForbes19. I need to do that. Or give me a follow on the dram at Will.Forbes. There you are. Found you. Of my brand. You just got followed, right?

Yeah, you just got followed, dog. No. That doesn't happen. Welcome to follow town. I'm really happy that you already followed me or else you don't even want to know

Dylan's gonna swing on him yeah I was gonna swing on you player he beat the shit out of one of our interns once yeah it's true

and then he slept in our office yep and he kissed his girlfriend yeah then I made out with his girlfriend

you did that alright let's get out of here bye bye girlfriend all right let's get out of here you