Circling Back - Meeting McConaughey & Game of Thrones Episode 2

Episode Date: April 22, 2019

Will's back to discuss his trip to New York where he had a brush with Matthew McConaughey. Dave and Dillon break down S8E2 of 'Game of Thrones,' and we enter The Steam Room to talk golf greens and boarding airplanes. Support us on Patreon and receive episodes every Friday for just $5 per month: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast (0:00) Andorra is a country? (10:15) Will Is Doing A Soup Cleanse (17:54) Will & McConaughey (40:32) The Steam Room (52:01) Dave and Dillon Break Down 'GoT' While Will Listens to The Wallflowers Postmates: $100 of free delivery credits using code CIRCLING Liquid IV: www.liquidiv.com/circlingback (25% off everything) MeUndies: www.meundies.com/circlingback (15% off) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/circling-back/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, we're back. Circling Back Podcast. It's Monday. My name is Will DeFreeze. To my right, Dave Ruff. It's Monday. My name's Will DeFreeze. To my right, Dave Ruff. Since I've sat down in this studio to record this podcast on a Monday morning, I've received three robocalls on my cell phone device. I received a FaceTime the other day from Andorra. Andorra? You have an Aunt Dora? No, it's not my Aunt Dora.

From the country Andorra. I've never heard of that country before. I have to be honest, I am unfamiliar with this country. Really? Where the fuck is Andorra? I think it's like average. Is it up by Canada or something? I don't know. Now I'm like embarrassed. I don't think it's in North America. Dude, Andorra. Everyone knows where Andorra is.

No, I don't actually know where it is, but I'm looking it up right now. It's between France and Spain. But like, why are robocalls FaceTiming me now? There's a country between France and Spain. But like, why are robocalls FaceTiming me now? There's a country between France and Spain? What? It's just a little guy. Are you sure? It must be the size of this house because I didn't know there was anything there.

Dude, this is blowing my mind. It's a tiny independent principality situated between France and Spain in the Pyrenees Mountains. It's known for its ski resorts and a tax haven status that encourages duty-free shopping yo andora sounds tight as hell yeah like dude i try to only shop duty-free i try to do that at home yeah man wait i don't like the fact that i didn't know about this i felt like of all the

continents i had okay so north america obviously but europe was number two on like i've got a pretty good grasp on all of the countries in this is this the quickest derail we've ever had yeah i haven't even introed yet right about andora i mean i said it was in africa and it's not even close to africa i mean i feel like an idiot is it near portugal no no it's hella hard for portugal gotta be northeast of that shit that's near barcelona or as they say in Barcelona. Barcelona. Barcelona. Well, shout out to all my Andorians. Yeah. Maybe it was like a backer and he was just like, yo, I want to gas you up right now.

You know what? I don't think that's what it was. If they're doing tax haven stuff and skiing in the Pyrenees Mountains, it sounds like I'm in. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It sounds like a dope place. Dude, you think there's just a bunch of great Pyrenees running around? It has to be.

It's entirely possible. You gotta think so. I'm fucking... I'm about to book it. It looks... This looks tight. You think there's just a bunch of great Pyrenees running around? It's entirely possible. You gotta think so. I'm fucking... I'm about to book it. It looks... This looks tight. That's all I know about it. My mind is blown.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, I think several soccer players will leave Andorra. Not several, but like people will leave Andorra and then move to France in order to like play for their team instead of the Andorran team. I don't even know if Andoran is correct. You know, I finally made the switch. I'm not using Andoran anymore. I'm on Spotify. Yeah? Exclusively. Good. Good. Yeah, it's just too random

on there. Yeah, I didn't like the way they were curating my playlists. Hey, at some point, am I getting intro'd or am I still a part of this podcast? Yeah, directly in front of me, Dylan Chivary. Wow, thank you so much for that great intro. I'm happy to be here. I had a nice, relaxing weekend and I'm ready to go. Nobody asked, but...

Well, I'm going to say it anyway, Dave. I missed you. Just me specifically? I thought you had too much of me last week. I missed Will, too. Actually, I did, but... Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I got over it.

Didn't your 23andMe come back with you having some roots in Andorna? I don't believe that was on there, man. I just crushed that. Did y'all see that swole-ass mountain lion? Yeah. Dude. That thing was a unit. I don't know.

Which one? I got tagged in so many lion things this weekend. There was some powerlifting mountain lion that was caught on a game camera or something. Its shoulders are cut up. Yeah. You know people have the striations with the feet? But not the video that like literally everyone says. Like all he does is hunt and hunt and do shrugs.

It's all he does. The normal lion that people were sending to us looked like it was like CGI. Oh, the liger? Was that a liger? It was a liger. A lot of people sent us the liger. They're still sending it. I still don't know what's going on in that video.

It looked like the guy was like a miniature version of a regular human. It looked like his stuffed animal got blown up. He was the stuffed animal then. But that video is legit, right? That thing's the size of a horse. I don't know if it's legit or not anymore. It's the size of a horse, David. It was bigger than a horse.

I think that thing weighs more than a horse. Did y'all see Dan Bilzerian feeding that bear? Yeah. No. Do peopleall see Dan Bilzerian feeding that bear? Yeah. No. That guy's twisted. Do people still follow Dan Bilzerian? I kind of wish the bear took a swipe at old Dan. It might be one of my faults, but I, for some reason, still follow Dan Bilzerian.

He caught the on-fall a while ago. He's too much. Ever since I tried unsuccessfully to meet up with him in Vegas, I've just kind of had this thing where it's like, I can't stop following the guy. What are you caught up in over there, player? Nothing. I had Andorra up.

I couldn't stop reading about it. I do want to say, did you guys see that zookeeper that got, like, hurt? I saw a headline say, did you guys see that zookeeper that got hurt? I saw a headline. I did. We're not going to talk about that. It's sad. She was in a lady?

Yeah, and she was in critical condition. Don't send us a depressing story. How do you feel about zoos in general? Can I issue a statement on this story and zoos in general? Sure. I think we can all acknowledge that zoos are kind of fucked up. Yes. But I know they do some good.

Sure. Like saving species and stuff like that. Preservation. And I think for the most part, people who work at zoos are good people who really love animals. Yeah. And that's why this is sad. This isn't like some dickhead who just had a wild cat, like a jungle cat that he claimed as his pet. This isn't someone poaching rhinos.

We're pro-zookeeper, anti-poacher. Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely. Well said. We're anti the institution of zoo. If a poacher gets got, like, come holler. The comparison. If a zookeeper gets got, like, yo, we're sorry.

I'm even willing to go a little bit further. This is different than, let's say, a lion at the circus. Like, I don't know how much circusing still goes down. But if you're out there doing the show with the lions, making them jump through hoops, and then it goes lion on your ass. You deserve to get hit. I'm not going to say you deserve it, but I get it. You know what I mean? Yeah, like I see where the line's coming from

in this situation. Zookeeper, like this is just, I know a zookeeper. I know somebody I went to college with and she's a zookeeper. Or she works in the zoo industry. Anyway, I don't know why it's funny. The zoo industry.

But just loves animals. So it is sad. Yeah. I really went out on a limb. It is sad, is what I said. Hey, did you all see the video of the lions at the circus actually going crazy? Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. Dude, that was loco.

Yeah. Where was it? Like, brush there or some creek? I couldn't watch the whole video. I was like, this is too messed up. And I don't feel bad for these people right now because they kind of expose themselves to it. Well, if you expose yourself to a lion, you're asking for it. Yeah.

I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often. Well, maybe they were just trying to get that lion's mane. Yeah, maybe. I don't think we'll... Did you listen to the Liv episode? Did you make it that far? I haven't listened to Liv yet. Oh, that's cool, man. I'm sorry. Thanks for supporting us. Dude, I listened to the Liv episode? Did you make it that far? I haven't listened to Liv yet. Oh, that's cool, man.

I'm sorry. Thanks for supporting us. Dude, I listen to the Patreon. Okay. I just haven't gotten to Liv yet. Hey, by the way, how did my audio editing go? Dude, it was on point. Was it great?

Yeah, it was dope. Fuck yeah, Dave. Now we're talking. Yeah. It was fucking lit. Hell yeah, dude. That was a good Patreon. Barrett Deadly.

Shout out to Barrett Deadly. Hey, should we talk about our friends over at Postmaster real quick? Mm-hmm. dude that was a good patreon barrett barrett deadly shout out to barrett deadly hey should we talk about our friends over at postmaster right quick other than your absolute best friends who could bring you red wine at 4 p.m sushi at 9 p.m and a breakfast burrito at 8 a.m gotta be post gotta be postmates like you already know that uh i'm not sure about you guys but i'm a big fan dave didn't you order something the other day from postmates that made my master's weekend was exclusively furnished by Postmates. I was kind of struggling yesterday.

I might have overdid it a little bit on my return to Austin. And all I wanted to do yesterday was Postmates some Popeyes. And instead, I just went there. And I keep that credit on me, though. Are you aware that our listeners can get credit if they're first time users of Postmates?

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Imagine not saving with code circling. I was just thinking, so you went to Popeye's on Easter Sunday, huh? Yeah. Man, you realize that that's something that I've always contemplated doing, but I've never actually done it. Yeah, as it turns out,

a lot of places aren't open for breakfast on Easter Sunday, which makes sense. Another thing, you went very early. it yeah as it turns out a lot of places aren't open for breakfast on uh easter sunday which makes sense another thing you went very early 10 30 to admit like i'll admit something i went yes it was 10 30 yesterday and i was in the drive-thru at popeyes it was kind of a low point you opened up popeyes basically i'm almost positive that like they weren't even open yet but they were just giving us stuff it was the longest it's ever taken to get popeyes because i'm almost positive that like they weren't even open yet but they were just giving us stuff it was the longest it's ever taken to get popeyes because i'm pretty sure the chicken had not been fried that's how you know it's gonna be good though it was very very good uh but dude

yeah like no one's no one's going to popeyes on easter morning at 10 30 i just wanted a breakfast sandwich from somewhere so i could you know coast through the day. Nothing was open, so I had to go to Popeye's. Wait, what did you order? We got a family meal. For two of y'all? Yeah. I love that. Yeah, it was way too much chicken.

That's cute, man. I had to throw some out. Because you know your boy's doing a soup cleanse right now. You guys aware of this? Yeah, I saw your stupid tweet. Wait, you threw away the chicken? Just like one piece. Was it a strip or was it a wing? It wear this. I saw your stupid tweet. Wait, you threw away the chicken? Just like one piece. Was it a strip or was it a wing?

It was a strip. The strips stay pretty good left over. Yeah, but he's on a soup cleanse. I'm doing a soup cleanse starting this morning so I couldn't have the temptation. This is the most you thing of all time. A soup cleanse. Soup cleanse, yeah.

I hate this. You're soup personified. Well, as Bill Simmons said, you know, soup is the perfect food. You go so hard on soup. Was that Bill Simmons? I hate soup. Yeah, he saidified. Well, as Bill Simmons said, you know, soup is the perfect food. You go so hard on soup. Was that Bill Simmons? I hate soup. Yeah, he said it in that douchey commercial.

Soup stinks. Didn't we get in a big fight about soup one time? About what was chili? It was the chili thing. I think we fought over every kind of food. Whether or not chili was a soup. It's not. I wish I wouldn't have brought that back up, but yeah.

Yeah. Wait, so is this real or is this just like you bought a bunch of no this is actually real holy shit i don't know why sally sent me a text when i was in new york she does this thing where she will send me texts at times when i really don't want to answer the text so i just say sure great oh you hit her with the sure she did yeah i did she she she'll send me like things that she wants to buy for our apartment when she knows that i'm like busy and she knows that I'm busy. And she knows I'm not going to click through the link.

And I'm like, yeah, that looks awesome. Get it. Just to diffuse. And then all of a sudden we have stuff in our apartment that I just don't like. But yeah, she asked if I wanted to do this soup cleanse. And I was like, yeah, whatever. We're going to Mexico and I could probably detox after eating bagels and pasta in New York for the entire week. So let's get a soup cleanse off. Did you get one of those famous New York bagels and pasta in new york for the entire week so uh let's get a soup cleanse

off did you get one of those uh famous new york bagels dude i did do they hit different dude they do hit i hate i hate to say it they do hit different it's the hard water how much water goes into bagels no one really knows people are always wondering that that's the thing it do you have any good pizza no no i had had no pizza. You dumbass. I know. I know. But I was eating a lot of bagels. They just crunch different. You don't rip it out of your mouth like you do the bagels here.

That's something I hate about bagels is I don't like the act of bread being tough to rip off of my teeth. You just bite through. It's so different. I hate being the guy that says that, but it's just true. Do you know anything about yeast? No. Yeah, I don't either. I was just hoping that might be something that has to do with the water in the bagel.

No, I don't know anything about yeast. Dylan, you're a big yeast guy. I'm not much of a yeast guy. I don't really know what the fuck it is. I really don't either. I know it's used in making beer. Beer, bread. Bread. And infections.

Well, okay. It does make the infections. That is that's gross but either way Sally she hit me up and I was like yeah let's do it and then all of a sudden I have 18 soups show up to my place I got it I got a drink six soups a day if 18 soups show up to my place I'd be so pissed off wait how big are these portions these just like they're not that big like so I got a drink So here, let me read my schedule. Are y'all ready for this? This is the softest diet ever.

So at 8am today I had to drink the cucumber avocado soup. At 10am today Is that served cold or hot? Cold. That sounds refreshing. You could do all of these cold or hot. I prefer cold especially because it's warming up outside.

Today at 10 a.m., which I'm going to be late on this one, I have a yellow pepper turmeric. Then at noon, tomato gazpacho. 2 p.m., carrot coconut. 5 p.m., this one apparently is the one that goes the hardest, tomatillo kale jalapeno. I love tomatillo. Me too. I love jalapenos. I love tomatillo. Me too. I love jalapenos. I hate kale. And then at 7pm to close

out my night, a little nightcap. Beet orange basil. See, that's the one that gets the blood flow. Well, stop. Well, I'm happy for you. I'm not. I'm not. This will probably benefit your health, but

what's not going to benefit your health is when people hear this and someone's just waiting outside to whip your ass. Yeah. Yeah. This is the softest thing ever. You're doing a soup cleanse. No. So I'll be honest. I've always wanted to do like a cleanse of some sort.

I thought it'd be funny. I always want to do it for content. I wanted to do like a week long juice cleanse for content. And I think Dave told me like early on. He's like, dude, you're going to be miserable. Like I'm'm not gonna want to be around you because it's gonna suck yeah that sounds like something i'd say yeah and i was like no you're actually right like i i would just be making this terrible but at one point i was emailing like local juice places in austin seeing if they would sponsor my soup cleanse if i covered it are you serious yeah they didn't go for it i mean i'm a

soup peddler didn't i I didn't hit them up. I just hit up the generic, the bigger ones. Did you hit up Panera? Yeah, I'm actually doing a soup cleanse where I just go to Panera every day and just eat their bread bowl. That's called a euthanasia cleanse. You know, I didn't see this coming at all. No, no. We'll see how this pans out all. No, no. Yeah.

We'll see how this pans out. But I'll know more Wednesday. You should mix in a chub salad. You don't probably know what that means either. I know. I did my due diligence on it. Because it was in the title of that episode. Yeah, and I was getting tagged in tweets. And I was just like, all right, I got to go figure this out.

The whole squad eating chub salad. I did start listening to it, actually then you guys you literally threatened to whip my ass a minute 23 into the episode yep it took you guys no time at all to be like yeah let's beat the dave said quote beat the piss out of will upon his return there was a question mark at the end like should we beat the piss out of it because dylan dylan said and i was like just beat the piss out of him yeah Yeah, that's fair. That's how it happened. Yeah.

We're not actually going to do it. See, it scares me to listen to the episodes that I'm not on, because I'm like, man, what if they just ripped me to shreds? Dude, when I was in Europe, y'all just shredded me the whole time I was gone. That's true, we did. Yeah, I call you chicken, because you stayed shredded. Don't say that. That's bad.

And your legs look like chicken legs. Man, stop. I'm not shredding you right now. Stop. I'm dabbing right now. That's not nice. I've been working them out. Hold on.

There was something there. So you just threw me off the tracks. Is there anything worse? Sorry, I'm just derailing today. Is there anything worse than shredding your own chicken? Like, have you done it? I've never shredded chicken. Dude, it's awful.

I've shredded pork, not chicken. I feel like pork would be easier. Because you're doing it out of a slow cooker or something. You know, I was having to do that for Randy when I was cooking his meals. I was having to boil and then shred it up and then throw in some rice. It's weirdly tired on the wrists. Well, and it's just gross. And honestly, the worst part is the white film that gets on the pan or whatever. See, we do it in an instapot

oh yeah that's probably a better idea chicken's just gross man preparing chicken is the worst yeah there's there's something about it for some reason though seasoning chicken versus seasoning a nice strip steak or a filet it's just two opposite ends of the spectrum for me it's seasoning like a filet or something i don't feel bad about having those juices on me i'm like whatever like people eat well they're not as juicy but chicken juice has got chicken it's just like salmonella yeah like like that shit'll make you i'll wash when i'm prepping chicken i'll wash my hands like no less than three times because like dude you have to you can't touch

the chicken and then get the your garlic salt and touch that with your your slime your slime hand because then you got then you got slime on the garlic salt it's just it's just a beating i always mess up where like when i'm seasoning something i end up like being like all right this hand is your sanitary hand your right hand the other one's seasoning it and then all of a sudden like i don't think about it and i use my sanitary hand to flip the chick and i other one's seasoning it. And then all of a sudden, I don't think about it, and I use my sanitary hand to flip the chicken. And I'm like, God damn it. Your boy's going to get salmonella.

You dumbass. Did you guys hear I met Matthew McConaughey? Yeah. Did you actually meet him? No. I was the closest you could possibly be to him without touching him, though. How tall is he? Actually, he put out... This is my area, Dave. Yeah. How tall is he normal actually like he put out uh this is my

area dave yeah how tall is he dylan he's he's 5 10 no he's not he's taller than 5 10 nice dude he's 5 10 he's taller than 5 10 nah whoa really yeah no he's not yes he is mcconaughey yeah dude i always pictured him in like 5 8 let's see what he's listed at yeah see what he's listed at he put out six foot vibes to me if he's six dude, dude, he's the hottest guy on the planet. Maybe he just has a grand presence. What does the Google say? Google says he's six feet,

which in Hollywood, that's 5'10". Dude, I think he's six feet. Really? Yeah. Dude, he was wearing Allbirds, though. Did those put any height on you? Why'd he swag like that?

He didn't have to. Apparently Cooper's 6'1", according to this. Okay. I was doing some Bradley Cooper 6-1 according to this. Okay. I was doing some Bradley Cooper reading last week. Why? I don't know how I got into this, but I started looking up the Bradley Cooper transformation

before he became Chris Kyle in American Sniper. And I need to give him more credit. Even though I don't think the movie was great he put on so he was 185 he got up to 230 he put on that's what dylan's trying to do 40 pounds of muscle and per him he did not use any that's that's what i'd say that's what i'd say but he definitely you cannot do that here's what he said he said he could he's an addict he's a recovering addict he had a drink

so he's like I can't do that stuff so he apparently did it natural which I don't believe it I don't understand that I don't fucking either

oh hey another robocall tight I've never heard them called robocalls by the way really yeah that's what they're called though

okay I'm not arguing here it's a robot presumably dude that's a lot of weight I never heard them called Robocalls by the way Really? Yeah That's what they're called though Okay I'm not arguing here It's a robot Presumably Dude that's a lot of weight So that's What do you weigh About 185, 190?

I'm 196 right now Yeah that would be like 197 But I mean I work out constantly And I'm Just Clawing to get to 200

I don't feel like I'm built Yeah but he's working out With like a trainer And knows what they're doing Like here's how you put on weight Is it that different? Yeah Yeah bitch to get to 200. I don't feel like I'm built any different than he is. Yeah, but he's working out with a trainer and knows what they're doing. Like, here's how you put on weight. Is it that different?

Yeah. Yeah, bitch. He's probably taking in like 6,000 calories a day. 8,000. 8,000. 8,000 is the number. What do you eat to get 8,000 calories?

Whatever you want. Like good calories, though. Because you don't want to be like... They're not all good calories, man. I mean, it's a lot of carb. Yeah. So, a lot of pasta. I was reading it

and I was just like, dude, this would be fine if I had somebody preparing my meals. Yeah. But that's the thing, man. They said on set he was eating like every hour. That's so miserable. And he would work out in the morning and then in the afternoon. And then he was doing all the training, like the SEAL training, like on the range and stuff. And then the movie got completely like... By a baby. Shit on by the baby. Like the SEAL training on the range and stuff. And then the movie got completely like

by a baby. Shit on by the baby. Like the baby derailed everything. I forgot about that baby. I watched The Mule over the weekend. Clint Eastwood. Yeah.

Not great. Yeah, I'm out on Clint Eastwood for now. Not great. He's a legend. I love Clint Eastwood. He's a legend. But right now it's like, yeah, I don't know what to do with you.

It wasn't great. He is doing the Richard Jewell story. Remember Richard Jewell, the Atlanta Olympics, the bomber? And they blamed it on the security guard, Richard Jewell. And it wasn't him. He has the rights to it, and he will be doing that movie. Like, he's not going to act in it, but he's directing it. You know, he's not going to act in it because he's 99 years old.

But I'm very interested in that. I don't know if you all remember. No I am. 98 Olympics? Yeah it was Atlanta. Maybe 96? 98? I forget. It was in the 90s. I'm really bad at Olympic years. Like I never can remember. That's just something you can't really grasp.

The World Cup was in 98 so I don't think that it was probably 96. Richard Jewell, RIP, but one of the great names, Dick Jewell. Dick Jewell. Does he spell it like the gem stones, or does he spell it with two U's? Yeah, you're asking too many questions. Dickie Jewell would be a great nickname. Like the thing that you smoke? Yeah.

That's got to be how he spells it. There's definitely a fraternity composite photo out there where a dude's name is dick jewel in it that'd be tight man yeah yeah we buried the lead here my bro do you want my mcconaughey experience oh yeah so i'm sitting at i'm sitting there at the at the like gate and i look over and i'm like oh that dude looks like mac mcconaughey and then it took me all of 0.5 seconds to go holy shit that's that's just straight up McConaughey. Hat or no hat? Hat. Sunglasses, hat.

What kind of hat? Like a fly fishing outfit? Something I'd never heard of before. Something tight. It was honestly an ugly hat. But McConaughey kind of flies under the radar for dressing like absolute shit. He's not a good dresser. No.

No. He wears like really weird stuff. Well, he would go on like Jimmy Fallon wearing like Levi's, Red Wing boots, and a Pecos Texas t-shirt or some shit. But like, he makes some really weird stylistic choices. Yeah. And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, man. He tucks in the T.

Yeah. Nobody's doing that. You don't see that. Dude, I'm thinking about low-key starting to do that. I might start tucking in T. No, you can't. You see how the soup thing goes. Yeah.

And so I was sitting there and like, I looked over over and like I've said, I think I've said it on Circling Back before that like I don't really get starstruck anymore by certain people, like by like people like at golf tournaments, like the only person I've been starstruck seeing is Tiger. But other people, I feel like we've been very fortunate in the last four or five, however long, to meet a lot of people. And it kind of takes the excitement. You're saying because you're famous, you don't get starstruck?

No, no. It's not that at all. But we've gotten to meet some really cool people. And so it kind of takes the butterflies away when you get to meet someone else. Yeah, I get it. First meeting Colton and Chris Harrison, it's like I had butterflies. But then the second time we were hanging out with them, I was like, okay. Chris Harrison was in Dallas over the weekend and didn't hit me up for cue.

That's messed up. Dude. Yeah, that's messed up. Let's not talk about that. So I look over, and he's just standing there. He clearly showed up right away. I just envisioned him chilling in the Delta Sky Club or something until he knew that, all right, it's time to board.

A single mom is, I don't know if she's single. She was traveling alone with her kids. And he offered to help her take her bags onto the flight because he gets to board early because he's first class. What a guy. I'm sure he has status. But I was like, man, that's very nice of him. Also a typical McConaughey. What did this mom look like?

She was a mommy. Nice. In every sense of the word. Nice. What a guy but she had a big duffel that clearly she was struggling having a stay on her shoulder and so did you hear him approach her yeah i watched the entire thing can you tell me can you do like a do a knee jerk impression i can't i don't know how to do that can help you their bags yeah looks like it needs some help did this woman know immediately who it was? Do you think?

People were definitely rubbernecking at the gate. Like, they knew it was McConaughey, but nothing over the top. Did the woman know that McConaughey was about to carry her bag to the plane? I think so. Okay. I think so. And so, when we get on the plane, you know how when you start boarding, like, some people just take for fucking ever to put their bags in the snow awake thing i hate those people so i got so see i hated those people until now because i got stalled and i was literally just right next to him so his head was at crotch

level yeah he was at he was at the he was in the second row aisle seat uh what airline delta okay he's a delta boy apparently and so i'm sitting i'm just standing right next to him for like three minutes, and I'm like, dude, I want to say something so bad right now. But no one else said anything to him the entire time. You've got to tell them about the pod, man. I would have leaned down and been like, Interstellar was tight. Dude, I wish I... So what I wish I would have done and what my plan was to do after, if I would have seen

him when we were getting off the plane, I was going to just give him a quick hook him. I mean, I have very minimal investment in Texas sports, but I figured that was a very good way to, hey, hook him. Oh, yeah, he'll respond to that. Yeah, and it was a low investment thing. I didn't see him when I got off the plane. But the thing that confused me the most is while I was standing next to him, it's hard not to look down and see what he's doing.

It's hard not to do that with somebody else that's just like chilling there. But when it's Matthew McConaughey, like you're somewhat more invested. He's got his laptop open. What kind of lappy? Like I'm not a Mac. An Acer? Like, yeah, it was like. Dude, you're getting a Dell. It's like a Hewlett Packard or something. Yeah, maybe he's the new dude, the Dell dude

guy. Oh, that's when he was going to NYC for you. Yeah, he was signing deals. and so i looked out and he's typing in a word document and so my first thing is like i'm like is he writing a screenplay right now like low-key he wasn't like it was just some random word document and it got me thinking like no one uses microsoft word anymore no like dude google drives me one time like what are you doing so i'm i'm so confused and the more i think about it the more i'm like if i'm mat'm Matthew McConaughey, I never want to see a Word document for the rest of my fucking life. Like, don't make me fill out a Word document.

Yeah. He got people to do that for him. That's all you're thinking at this point? Yeah. I just couldn't get it out of my head. What is he typing in this Word document? There's really no telling. Is it like a DocuSign for a contract?

Maybe he's writing a letter to somebody. No, there was red font and stuff like that. Like it looked like something official that he had to like annoyingly fill out. Maybe he was just using it to keep himself busy. So he didn't have to look and make eye contact with people. He was journaling. So he didn't have to like deal with people like me that were just like looking down at what he was doing. What would you have done if you're standing there and he just looks over and he goes,

Dude, you're getting Adele. Dude, you're getting Adele. The woman next to him looked like she had no clue who he was. She was just sitting there knitting. She was sitting there in the nude? Knitting. She was knitting something. Damn, that's aggressive.

Yeah, she was just naked. How are you just going to sit next to Matthew McConaughey and knit? I feel like you've got to do something tighter. If it's a long flight... How old was this woman? You don't want to just... Young. Do people still knit?

Young. You don't want to start blowing them up. She looked like she was my age. Look, if you're on a flight... That's a hipster hobby. How long is a flight? Four hours. Okay, she knows she's sitting next to this really famous guy for four hours.

You don't need to just jump right in and be like... Yeah, but you can't... Oh, my God. You can't just knit from the jump either. I feel like you've got to do something cooler to put out the vibe of like yeah maybe we should talk this entire flight can you bring a needle onto a plane i think i mean they're not metal yeah these are more like chopsticks yeah they're like little plastic things yeah okay they're not they're not real it's essentially a chopstick so i don't know what if she stabbed mcconaughey

with well that's what I'm thinking. We could have lost McConaughey, but do you think by the end of the flight she presented him with like a scarf? Yeah, she was just like, here, I've made you a

beanie. This whole time. He would wear it, too. He would. You know, I got this. Yeah, he wore it on Kimmel the next night. Actually, yeah, if he

made any public appearances, I want to see if he had anything like clearly knit on. I got onto this plane and she knitted me a beanie. Is it weird that the entire time I was hoping that he was going to hop on the intercom and give an all right all right all right thing?

Oh, dude, that's McConaughey. It just seems like the kind of thing that he would be down to do. Just tell a story? Yeah. Also, people were clearly going, they never did the cutoff thing with the, you know how they have the curtain

where they close it between first class? I don't know if they do that anymore. They had a curtain there, but they never closed it. And people were clearly going a little too far up the plane to go to the bathroom rather than going to the back of the plane. It's like if you're past row 20, you're going backwards, not forwards. But as McConaughey says, sometimes you have to go backwards to go forwards. Lincoln. Last time I got shut down by a flight attendant, just in general, was on a plane where I tried to go to the front

bathroom and there was somebody in there. I think I was on this plane with you. And she told me, like, oh, you gotta go sit back down. You can't wait up here. I'm like, is it alright? Just kind of hang out for like one minute. Southwest does not let you wait up there. They were not cool. And I guess it's, I guess, uh, 9-11. You're familiar with this? Yes. You can't be hanging out, just hovering outside where the pilot

is. See, they didn't really... Oh, I guess in the front it's probably more difficult. But yeah. In the back, they let you chill. In the back, they let you just kind of... You know, you sit there and you're like, hey, so what's up?

Flat attendant. How do you like it? What's up, dude? Yeah, how's it going? Traveling a lot, huh? You buried the lead, though. The Allbirds. Yeah, he was wearing Allbirds,

which is kind of defeating. So Dylan, that should make you feel a little better. Man, we trash All birds and then people are not happy with us when we do when we do that people don't like that a lot of all birds fans out there i guess so the reason i was in new york was to interview uh his name is panos panay and he is the chief product officer at microsoft and i asked him i was like what's your ideal sunday outfit and he was like uh i mean he said it like much more long-winded but he essentially said that he wears lululemon and then like when he's traveling he he rocks all birds man so i scorched him off the face of the earth no i didn't i was just like

oh nice do we need to give all birds a chance i don't know if they want to sponsor the pod and send us some like they can do that well they can't because we've just spent too much time trashing them. Dude, imagine though if we got some and we loved them and they changed the narrative. That's the best marketing that they could possibly do. We essentially just did an ad read for them by saying that McConaughey was wearing all birds on a plane. Yeah. That's true. He was wearing a color that I never would have selected.

They were like bright blue. Are people going to side with McConaughey on a fashion item or us? It's hard. It's not us. Well, we just said he dresses like low-key trash no but he has his own style yeah he has the style of a guy who's like yeah i don't give a fuck anymore when he goes to a texas game i mean isn't he wearing like whitewashed levi's a tucked in texas t-shirt that's a little bit tiny and then got the slick back flying the hockey hair flying out of the back of the hat. He's got that light brown leather jacket that he wears all the time, too.

That thing's trash. I hate that thing. Why? I don't know. Is it like a flight club jacket? It's McConaughey's jacket. Yeah, he looks good in it, obviously. But I don't like it.

Yeah. Yeah. I never got to hear him speak. That was a bummer. I really wanted to hear his voice. I thought he was talking to the lady. Yeah. About her bags.

I guess I heard him like say like a quick something but i wanted to hear him like talking like to somebody for like a long period of time like telling a story that went nowhere yeah yeah yeah that's what we all want yeah um and then the next day i have an awkward run-in with jared allen which is not a very well-known person. He's been in the NBA for two years. I had to ask who the guy was. I'm surprised you didn't know who he was. When Texas basketball sucks, I don't pay attention.

I'll stay at my buddy's apartment in Brooklyn. I'll make this one quick because it's not a McConaughey-level thing. But I was staying at the apartment in Brooklyn, and I look over, and I'm waiting at the elevator with this dude. And he looked very recognizable to me and I was like, shit, I feel like I know who he is. Tall fella. Tall, Afro, decked out in Brooklyn Nets stuff. And so I'm like, yes, I know who this is,

but I can't put my finger on it. Well, it turns out I didn't know how to work the elevators at my buddy's apartment complex. So I get in with Jared Allen and he's like, directing me on what to do. And then all of a sudden I realized I'm in the wrong corridor of like the apartment and I can't get to it based on where I need to go based on where I am. So I'm like, fuck, I don't know what to do. So he's sitting there and he's like directing me and explaining everything to me.

He's a 20-year-old kid. He doesn't want to direct some idiot like blogger podcaster on how to like navigate his apartment complex. He should have just beat your ass. He really should have. And so he ended up having to explain it all to me, and I Googled... I had to Google Brooklyn Nets players to actually get the name on them,

which I felt bad about, but at the same time, I was like, yeah. Well, I was just looking up. His career stats are surprisingly a little bit better than I imagined. 11 points a game, 8 rebounds last season. How tall is he coming in at, though, Dak? He went for 21 on 420 against Philly. What's he coming in at, height-wise?

That's a great question, man. I'm going to look that up, and you guys will. 6'11". Yeah, that's a big fella. He didn't feel 6'11 to me, honestly. He was a sneaky 6'11". Yeah, sneaky 6'11". Yeah, it happens.

Because he just didn't... Man, maybe he me, honestly. He was a sneaky 6'11. Yeah, sneaky 6'11. Yeah, it happens. Because, yeah, he just didn't... Man, maybe he was taller than I gave him credit for. Was he a Shaka guy or a Rick Barnes guy at Texas? Shaka. Shaka. Was he Shaka's first year? Was he one and done? He had to have been one and done.

Because he's only 20 now. He's been in the league for two years. I feel like I didn't follow his game because he's... A, he's in the East. B, he's on the fucking Nets. Yeah. The Nets stink. I'm not, you know.

They're in the playoffs, man. It's the East. They let everybody in the playoffs. Yeah, the Pistons are in the playoffs, so that tells you everything you need to know. Yeah, my Pistons bandwagon fandom for you is not going well. Yeah, my Stars fandom's going well, though. Game six tonight. Dude, so Dave and I, we made an exchange because I don't have an NHL team in the playoffs. Shout out to Steve Eisenman, though. He's going to, though. Game six tonight. Dude, so Dave and I, we made an exchange.

Because I don't have an NHL team in the playoffs. Shout out to Steve Eisenman, though. He's going to get us there. Because I don't have an NHL team, I became a Stars fan. And in return, Dave said that he would cheer for the Pistons. As it turns out, one of us is getting the raw deal here. Sorry, Dave. Man, there was plenty of room on the Golden Knights bandwagon for you.

Shut up. What do you mean, shut up? Did you see how they lost last night? No, but I heard it was a... I heard about it. Are you on the bandwagon? Very soft goal. I'm a huge Golden Knights fan. Very soft goal in Double OT. When we had Klein on mail-in last week

and I said we're talking about playoff hockey, he told me that the Golden Knights were not in the playoffs. He was dead wrong. Klein, I know you're listening. That's on you. I should have corrected him. A little jerk. Maybe.

Made me look like an idiot. I'm just a producer, though, on that show. My own podcast. Yeah, I'm starting to get this feeling. This is going to come back to bite me, but I've got this feeling about the Stars, man. Yeah? I got a feeling, too. I think we're—this is going to be a run.

Low-key team of destiny this is a fun team and that is my nhl minute i can't explain like we don't need to go into this i can't explain how happy i was when the eisman press conference got announced so that's like if the cowboys brought acheman in as a gm yeah but like eisman has been like when he went to tampa bay like the i think been like when he went to Tampa Bay like the I think the feeling at least amongst my friends was like fuck like what like why can't we get him like whatever because he put together the Canadian teams and that yeah did very well and it was just like damn it like why he's the most legendary not the most legendary he's like

top I'll give him top two status top two most legendary Red Wings of all time. Who's one? Federoff? Yeah, Federoff. No, he's top three. Ted Lindsey. I got the feeling that listening to some of the national stuff, because admittedly when you started talking about that,

I was like, okay, I want to know a little bit more about this. I don't know what his career path has been post-hockey. I think they knew it was only a matter of time before he came back. I think this is complete speculation. I think they wanted to get... I think he wanted

to get experience somewhere else, which he showed he can do it. And then Ken Holland, who was our old GM, he essentially just took a fake promotion in order to let Eisenman do it. He looked so beaten down at the press conference. So it's like, go to a department store and sell men's clothes for a couple years and then come back and we'll bring you on. Yeah.

Yeah, it's one of those. Okay. Yeah. But, I mean, we said, when we were talking about Dirk, I was like, yeah, like, I think the only other person that I could say is that, like, that for me is Eisenman. And then, sure enough, when he announced that he wasn't going to renew his contract with Tampa Bay, like you kind of knew. And his family all lives in Detroit

and which I don't know what, wouldn't you rather live in Tampa Bay? Uh, yeah. I don't know anything about Tampa. Tampa could be trash, low key. And then where J-Bone's? J-Bone's from Tampa, yeah. So it's trash?

It's trash, yeah. No, J-Bone showed me a picture of his situation there. It looks pretty tight. There's some nice parts, man. Yeah. We used to work with this guy named Jared, and he goes by J-Bone. He gave himself that name. But you can't tell if J-Bone's from Wisconsin, which he reps harder than Florida, or Florida.

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Is it time? Wow. You know you add the sound effects after. You don't have to do them with your mouth now come here dave i like the low q all right look here's the deal i'm kind of i'm kind of steamed you should be i know what you're i know you're about to steam on it i'm also steamed this is one of those things we're looking back like in the general importance of life in the world, not that big of a deal, but I don't care. I think that's every problem we have. You're right.

This just really burns my ass. Like a fucking jalapeno dinner. What? What is wrong with you? Just talk about the steam issue, you freak. Are you in? Shut the door. Hold on. I'm letting the steam out. No, no, no. Roll up a towel and put it on issue, you freak. Are you in? Shut the door. Hold on.

I'm letting the steam out. No, no, no. Roll up a towel and put it on the little crevice there. That's what the real ones do. That is. Just the wily veterans are there just rolling up that towel. I decided to play a little golf last week. We had beautiful weather.

And I played with a couple guys. One of them is Ross Bowoss bowen you guys are probably familiar with him is he the new york times best-selling author noted okay check him out on the uh ross bowen podcast or oysters clams and cockles he's actually going to make an appearance during this steam room right now with me as well okay okay oh wait what do you mean you're steaming on something i want to steam on as well. No, it doesn't involve him, but it's something that is kind of derived from him. Damn. Yeah.

So we made a tee time in a course in Austin, and I've played it multiple times. It used to be a country club, but because of the changing landscape and the game of golf across the country, they had to go public. So now they have memberships, but they have to let uh scrubs like me in there to play and it's usually in really good shape it's in a cool part of town very far south uh easy for me and dylan to get to and um we get out there and uh me and the guy were playing with uh it's me ross and the guy ross was uh fashionably late a little bit late for the tea time just putting him on blast yep sorry buddy okay um we're we're kind of looking at the number nine green as we were warming up we're like that green doesn't look great like because it's covered

in sand we're like ah you know sometimes courses lose greens and and you know it not that big of a deal it's one green so we get there. We get to the first green. And not only is it covered in sand, but it's got the punch marks on it. Mm-hmm. You can't putt like that. Yeah, we're like, this is not good. Is it going to be like this all day? We get to two.

And it becomes clear very quickly that it is going to be like this all day. It be like that sometimes, though. Here's the thing. very quickly that it is going to be like this all day, which it'd be like that sometimes. Here's the thing. I've had this happen before. And what a, a good golf course with a,

a good front, you know, pro shop at the pro that, that knows what they're doing. They'll say, look, here's the deal. When you make the tee time,

we just punched or we just sanded them. Yep. They'll, they'll tell you that upfront and they'll give you a discount. They won't charge you full price. They just threw your ass out there huh oh i dropped 72 bucks on a thursday to play uh 18 holes in which we were basically having to give each other two putts on every green dude oh my god because no green was

salvageable there was one that was okay and it was like okay in patches so you're putting through like normal green, sand, then like what looked like shag carpet, then sand again. And it just kind of ruined the experience. That's awful. And it just pissed me off because I feel like they should be up front about that. Yes. Did you say anything when you went back to the clubhouse?

No, but I am going to write them a review on Golf Advisor, which I looked this up the other day. The paying full pricing wouldn't have bothered me as much as the not notifying me beforehand. Like, this is what you'll be playing on today in case you want to change your mind and go play somewhere else. Like, you tell them that when they make the tee time. And what really bothered me.

Absolutely. So every now and then, probably once a week, someone will hit me up. Hey, Dave, I'm in Austin. Never been. Looking to play golf. Or we're doing a bachelor party. What's a good course? I've recommended this course to people before. So have I. didn't happen this time but i would be so pissed and i

would feel really bad if i recommended this course and that happened and they didn't tell them when they made the tee times because it just i mean look if you're not if you don't play golf you may be thinking like dude what who cares you know you're out there you're not out there to score you're out there for like the weather and just to get out of work or whatever. But it changes everything. Putting is you get out there and you're hitting the ball well, which I was hitting the ball well. And then even if you hit the score well, you're like, well, it was on those trash greens and we were giving each other

pretty much anything within four feet. So you can't turn your scorecard in for handicap purposes. It's bullshit. So, yeah, I was a little pissed, and I went and checked Golf Advisor the other night after I'd been drinking a little bit, and a lot of people left some pretty bad reviews. Not happy.

A little steamed. No, you should be steamed. How'd you swing them, though? I hit the ball great. Huh. See? That's what was defeating. Well, that still makes it for a good day.

Yeah. Look, we had fun. The weather was good. It was very windy. Did you throw any cold ones back? I had two Dallas Blondes. Oh. What were their names?

You always did like those Dallas Blondes. Not as many as Dylan had, but... Yep. Oh, that's funny. Come on, man. You always liked yourself a Dallas Blonde there. But yeah. San Marcos Blondes as well.

I've never dated a Dallas Blonde. Nope. He had to look. He thought about it. Yeah. You had to think pretty hard about that. So yeah. So pardon my privilege, but yeah, I am steaming on a golf course on a Thursday.

Can I steam real quick? Yeah. We're going back to the plane. The reason I bring Ross up here is because Ross has noted, he's a noted hater of when people stand up when the plane lands. It bothers him a lot. It bothers him a lot more than other people. It bothers him so much that he started a movement about it.

Yes. So I understand where he's coming from. At the same time, I'm not going to fault someone for stretching after a long flight. A four-hour flight's a long time. That's what I don't get about his whole thing. And I've told him this before. I said, look, after a flight, the first thing I want to do after sitting down for three plus hours is stand up. Yes.

If I'm in the aisle seat, I'm 100% standing up the second I'm allowed to. Yeah. Because I want to stretch. I'm not the type of person, if I'm in the window seat, I know that I'm there until I can actually leave the plane. I know that I'm there. I'm not going to try to stand up or do anything. The people that need to get shit for their behavior when it comes to the plane is boarding the plane. Southwest Airlines, they're separate because you line up and you just do it.

But like with all these different boarding groups, the people that should get shit are the people that like wait right next to the gate. And then the second they're like, all right, main cabin two can now board. And they just sprint and like pretty much like body check you those are the people that should get shit that's the trash i don't know about boarding groups in general like i think those are all like pretty annoying that you have to do it like 11 different shifts there's too many boarding groups why do they call them like they call them like main one main two main three and then executive platinum yes and like platinum deluxe platinum baller big baller status true players for real uh and grind boys delta's

most delta's last group is just called basic i tweeted about this that's absolutely ruthless like what if your ticket just says basic on it you're just a loser it's like yeah dude sorry but it's just you don't need to crowd the thing like you have a seat no one's going to take your seat and it's never it's never a perfect line it's always the awkward no am i going to go in front of these two people who are sitting next standing next to me those people are the snakes because so if you if there's like a very like clear-cut path to go down to wait in line in, the people on the side are the trash people. If you're actually in the line and you're going straight ahead towards it,

you just get cut by the people on the side that for some reason just slide right in and act like they're not doing something shitty. I've always wondered if you try to board too early. I've seen this done to where they'll just let you on. They're not going to be like, oh, you're the next group. Unless you try to sneak on with the first class. But if it's like calling group A and you're group B and you're just like, oh, sorry. Pretty much you can get your way in there.

I've seen it on Southwest because you line up and they'll tell you like no like if you're like if you're a 23 or no sorry if you're like b36 and you try to board it like a 23 with like your wife or something they'll tell you nah you gotta go but if you're within like a five person thing i don't think they give a shit he's like ah people think southwest is a budget airline it's really not i've had nothing but pleasant experiences. They're always clean. I get free Wi-Fi because I use someone's password that I have for it. Must be nice. Yeah, it is nice. I can give it to you, though.

But it's a nice airline. People think that you're herded like cattle, and they say that in a negative way. No, it's actually very organized and simple. You can most of the time get a really good seat if you're not an idiot. Unless you're in boarding group C, then you're pretty much middle every single time but that's all i had to say i i to all those people out there who crowd the the line to get on a plane maybe just chill you have a seat it's not going anywhere the worst offenders are the people usually our age or younger probably younger who are rocking the beats headphones or any kind of headphone because they're just in their own world and they don't

have to worry about any kind of social norms because they're in there. They got music on and they're looking straight ahead. I was an AirPod boy, so I was just rocking those. When did you get AirPods? I stole them from Sally when she got them as a gift from her parents. And I have to say, I'm all in on them. For traveling, I walked from Brooklyn to Manhattan, like over the bridge and stuff,

and I walked a lot this day. And I had AirPods in the entire time, and it made my experience so much more pleasant. I didn't realize how expensive they were. Yeah, that's why I stole them. The ones with the wireless charging little holder? They're $ bucks, man. Yeah, it's loco.

I actually was going to purchase some this weekend, and I realized how much they were. I'd imagine that they would be awesome at the gym. Yeah. Just awesome at the gym. I can't discuss because, you know, my thing. Dylan sent me a guest pass, so maybe we'll go. I've been trying to get you to use a guest pass for months. I know, but Dylan put it in my inbox yep you can do that they sent me an email saying um like the

like the subject line was give your friend a staycation on us and it was a day at lifetime and i don't have to be with him he can use it whenever he wants is the cool you scan i'm just gonna go and i'm just gonna make it like my day at Lifetime Fitness. A memoir. It's just me just hanging out. I'm just going to have a Dave day. It's so fun up there, man. Yeah, we'll see. You need to do it. We'll see.

Is it time for you to start listening to the Wallflowers? Yeah, let me get my headphones out. Let me get my AirPods out. So, last night was episode two of the final season of Game of Thrones. Can I interject? Sure. Are you going to stick to the wallflowers thing or are you just going to listen to something else?

I think I'm going to stick to the wallflowers. It makes for a funnier bit. I think for the wallflowers because it actually is kind of symbolic. I'm just a wallflower who has to sit out the conversation and not be able to talk to anybody about it. I was going to say you should do like Marcy Playground. I have a Spotify playlist, which people know that my Spotify playlist goes super hard. I have one

and it's called Johnny Mosley's Minidisc Player because it's just very 90s. My friend, douchebag Pete and I, we made this playlist. So maybe I'll toss that on. It's every 90s

like pop rock hit that you could think of. Okay. I'll see you guys on the other side. Please give me the hand signal. Yeah, so this is Dylan and Dave

discussed Game of Thrones while Will listens to The Wallflowers. He's plugging in. Yeah, he's not listening yet. He's going to get going here in a sec. I'll let you guys know. I'll give you guys the hand signal when I have my noise canceling on. I'll just start with this.

Dave, did you enjoy the episode? I did. Very much so. Will, can you still hear us? Okay, we're good. Will can't hear us. Yeah, initial... I've only watched it once.

I'm going to watch it again today. I watched it twice last night. I enjoyed it. So I think a lot of people were a little upset that they didn't get any fighting action. A lot of people were disappointed in the episode because they were ready for shit to start popping off. And I kind of knew that it wasn't, but I was kind hoping that that some of the fighting had started because i'm just so

torqued ready for it but it didn't but clearly it's gonna next episode is the the main battle scene right episode three yeah from what we know that is going to be the biggest battle scene longest battle scene ever created. Right. What else from this episode caught your attention? Oh, okay. I thought you might have had a negative view on it. No, I enjoyed the episode. I enjoyed it. I thought it was really good.

I saw a lot of people who were upset from the jump because you know when it tells you like violence, nudity, before the episode here's the thing it only had it didn't have any violence it had brief nudity and it had like no sexual content really or didn't warn us about it and it just was basically language the people who didn't like the episode are the people like i described people who are waiting for the fighting to begin and for shit to start happening they want people to die and i get that but you have to know that this is Game of Thrones.

It's going to deliver. We know it'll deliver on all of that stuff because it always does. Just be patient. I didn't see a lot of my timeline negative. Oh, I did.

I saw more people talking about the people who were viewing it negatively. Yeah. Like Ross, like you, other people. And I was just like, are these people new to the show like how could you not enjoy that

seeing these characters have these conversations and like getting these groups together that have you know we've never seen this before like yeah yeah the fireside chat the fireside the fireside there were like three scenes that took place by the by the fire in there in the castle those are my favorite scenes because you had just a smorgasbord of characters from all different families and regions, and they're just here together finally, and it was just tight hearing them talk about stuff. From the jump,

I was a little bit surprised that they started just right with Jamie in front of everybody. Also a little surprised that that did not go on longer i thought it might have been a little bit more like up in the air what his fate was going to be but they dealt with it very quickly yeah and i just realized i think this episode that that him pushing bran out of a window had been kept secret this entire time because i know that i know that um his mom i forgot lady stark she was on catlin catlin thank you she was figuring it out but i guess you know she died obviously but i i guess it never actually saw the light of day before she died yeah that information um something else with brand that

came to light um it's funny on my way way back from Dallas, I told my wife, I said something I just randomly thought of was when he was becoming the Three-Eyed Raven, he had that scene where he ends up around all the White Walkers and everything's still, and then the Night King touches him. The Night King touches him. And I remember that was a big deal. Because if he touches you, then he knows where you are at all times.

So we found out in this one, per Bran, he's looking for me. Right, right. Which, if you did any of the extracurricular stuff after last week's episode. That was a major theory. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes sense. And now he's going to be

maybe the focal point of this battle to come. Like, he's, they're going to... So he wants to take Bran out, according to Bran, because he has all the memories of the present world

in his brain. And he just wants to eradicate all of that? He wants to get rid of all history. He wants to wipe the, wipe the world clean of all, of humans,

of man. And to do that, you have to get rid of the memories. Okay. It's like the whole thing. They say you die twice. Yeah. Okay.

How do you feel about Arya in a sex scene? Okay, so this was the... First of all, that had to be a body double, right? I know they use body doubles in this show. Cersei's walk of shame, for example, was a body double. I don't know.

I want to think. I'm pretty sure. At first I thought maybe. And then when they showed her when she was standing up and you could see her face, I assumed that was her. Because we saw some side tit there. We saw some side boob. Boob. And some boob too.

And we saw some top buttotocks we did some some uh some big glute that was a major uh most of the reaction from twitter was about aria hooking up with gingery which i i honestly that didn't surprise me that they did that like i knew they were gonna hook up it was weird because when we first started watching the show she was legit a child that's that's what makes it weird right that's what that's why it's weird for people because you saw her and i think a lot of people thought she was still very young in real life she's actually 22 she's 22 yeah which i i asked alissa i was like how old is she because we were both very very surprised at how that means it wasn't graphic but how you know when they started filming the show so she must have been like 12 13 or 12 something like that too young

yeah yeah i don't know people just people were freaking out about it i saw urt uh what's his name quote tweet portnoy portnoy's video was so funny a lot of people felt that way for me i i don't know i thought it was cool for her character just because to this point all we really know of her is that she's like just a badass killer yeah and for her to you know get to do some of this before they all think they're gonna die so she's finally gonna get to get some of that action like shout out to her it's funny man because nobody thinks they're gonna win this this is an eight seed going against against the one do they think that just because there are so many of yeah okay how many do we have they given us a number how many there i think it's a hundred thousand i could be way off somebody knows it's better and they're going

to tell us but yeah you gotta yeah and they have a dragon now too yeah and they have giants but it was i mean i think everybody's favorite moment or most people like jamie knighting brianne that was tight that was she's a badass she's a great character doesn't i don't think she's gonna make it through the battle i think that was kind of it for her i have no idea who i think is going to survive this battle. Really, I don't know, and that's kind of fun for me. Twitter was like, well, great character arc. That kind of closes it for her.

Books shut on her. She had a good run. True. I think we're losing. I'll just give my unsolicited predictions. I think we're losing her. We're definitely losing Tormund. We're losing... Man, Tormund is also just one of my favorite characters. We're definitely losing Tormund. We're losing...

Man, Tormund is also just one of my favorite characters. I mean, he came out swinging. The giant milk? Giant's milk? Come on. What's that meme where it's Tiger and he's glaring over? And it's a guy and it says, when you bring your girl around and your buddy decides to start being a comedian?

That's all I could think of. Jamie's just kind of watching this unfold like huh like these people are crazy up here i kind of wanted the jamie brienne uh love scene to happen um i i didn't know that there was anything there until this episode, I think. And I don't know if you watched the writers discuss after the episode. I did not. They addressed this a little bit, and they confirmed, like, yeah, Brienne is totally in love with Jaime, basically is what they said. I didn't know this was a storyline. He's low-key hot as fuck.

Oh, he's a very hot man. Don't get me wrong. He looks better now. So before the episode, they showed, like, the pilot where he kicks Bran out the window. I mean, he looks better now than he did when he was young. He's aging well. He's aging really well. He's a hot piece of meat. He kind of looked cheesy back then.

Yeah. Like a soap opera star type. Yeah. He's almost too good looking for the show. But they threw the beard on him. He's just got such looking for the show. But they, yeah, they threw the beard on him. He's just got like such exaggerated features. Yeah. But I like that Theon's willing to take the bullet.

Like he's going to guard Bran, who's going to be, I guess, kind of bait for the Night King. And I'm thinking, yeah, that makes sense, you know, because he doesn't have a penis. His penis was cut off. So, of course, he's willing to go down. Yeah. Like, he wants to redeem himself, and, you know, the man is now without wiener. So it's like, yeah, at this point, I don't really want to survive this. A lot of people are missing dicks in this show.

Just a lot of dickless men walking around. Too many for my liking. Yeah, a whole army full of them, actually. One thing on the big reveal, uh john reveals to danny like the lineage and what that whole thing i feel like danny kind of missed uh missed the lead it's like hey at least or john could have spun this better he can be like at least now your brother who you love so much is not a rapist that's kind of you know he could have spun it that way instead of the way he did yeah and neither of them acknowledge that it's a little bit weird that they're sleeping together.

Like, it's just about, like, you know, the throne at this point. It's all about the throne. Yeah. I didn't know if he was going to withhold that information or not. And I don't know what she's going to do with it. Yeah, because they got interrupted. What is she going to do with that information, Dave? You got to think she's going to go back to the whiteboard, start writing out different scenarios.

Maybe do a, like, flow it out. Hmm. Yeah, I don't know how she's going to handle this. Yeah. I don't know if they're both going to make it through episode three. Really? I don't know. Really?

But I do know that... We can't lose Jon Snow. I was feeling bad about Tyrion for next episode because you have to imagine that at least five of these characters are going to go down. And then I realized we've got Bronn out there with the crossbow. And you've got to think that they're going to do something with him where if we were to lose Jaime and Tyrion,

then it wouldn't make any sense for him. I't know so i think tyrian's okay jamie might be gone too i don't know man all i know is i've got a church's concert sunday night with uh with some friends and i'm gonna miss the episodes i'm gonna have to get home at like 11 and watch it. I think the episodes close to 80 minutes. Yeah. It's going to be a late night. I'm pretty excited. It's this is the episode. This is the episode.

Yeah. We'll know a lot after, after next Sunday. Yeah. I wish they would have given us more in the strategy. You know, they gave us like, they're all surrounding the board and they're like,

all right, you're going to be here. You're going to be here. But it's funny. Cause it's like an army of the strategy. You know, they gave us like, they're all surrounding the board and they're like, all right, you're going to be here. You're going to be here. But it's funny because it's like an army of the dead. So how much can you really strategize? Here's what I'm worried about, Dave. There are four episodes left, correct? Yeah.

I think obviously next episode is going to be mostly just a battle scene. I'm just a little bit worried that when this thing concludes finally and they air the the very last episode they're going to be like just wondering wondering what happened to certain storylines like why why couldn't get closure on this and this because that that's the stuff that bothers me i think the closure we're going to get from so many of them it's just going to end because

they died in battle like i think that's some of the ones that aren't tied up um like torment and brienne like are they going to hook up like is that finally going to happen she's definitely Like, I think that's some of the ones that aren't tied up. Like, Tormund and Brienne. Like, are they going to hook up? Like, is that finally going to happen? She's definitely not into him, so probably not. But either way, like, he's going down. One of them's going down, so that whole storyline's gone. I don't know.

Greyworm. Don't feel great about Greyworm. Like, that whole thing. Like, him and Melisandre, or what's her name? Is it Mel? I think it's Melisandre. Melisandre. Melisandre's the... Melisandre. Yeah, Melisandre or what's her name is it mel i think it's masan masandre melisandre's the masandre yeah masandre sorry people hate us you know i don't care um that felt like a goodbye like oh yeah let's we should go we should go to the beach right you know after this but they're even like other just smaller storylines you forget about like

the mountain and the hound have a score to settle are they going to square up at some point you know like stuff like that there's just a lot of open-ended stuff that i don't if it's just fighting and that would be a disappointment if we did not get that battle right just because i don't know i feel like everybody he had a great uh character arc he redeemed himself. And seeing him and Arya talk about it, that was cool. Is the mountain on Arya's kill list? Yes. Maybe she assists with that. I don't know. Does she have a new list?

I think she just keeps amending her current one. It's an amended list? Yeah. She's got a word doc? Yeah. She's a little badass now. She's got that spear though a double-sided yeah she does that's tight honestly i was hoping it would be something a little bit more unique based on the drawing like i i thought it might have something be something we've never seen before yeah you know

um how do you feel about her going into the episode you think she's gonna make it through yes okay i do i think she's gonna kill a lot of twitter's gonna be popping off twitter this is gonna be the best twitter night in a decade there were there were points during the show last night i would pause it i would be like 20 minutes in and i would pause it and just to take a peek at twitter to see if people were just so locked in on the show and not tweeting yet but now people just tweet throughout i don't understand people who tweet during the show i don't either i can't do that there's too many little things little glances and just i have to pay attention to it yeah even though i know we're gonna do some half only like

five minutes on it i don't know i'm gonna watch it again tonight we saw the return of ghost too yeah hey maybe maybe my man can get a little bit more than just hanging out in the background where no literally no one acknowledges him. Yeah. Dude, where you been? Ghost? Did they just add him in after the fact? We got to get him in here somewhere.

We got to get the dire wolf in here. Because nobody acted weird around it. No one acknowledged it. I would have walked up the stairs, saw him up there, and maybe dapped him up. Yeah. Give him a little head tap. Yeah. The last thing I want to say is that Padraic, the song that he sang,

first of all, that song was dope, and it was a great tone-setting song. It's a bop. It was awesome. Who knew Paddy had pipes like that, Dave? Not me. He's a fun little character, too. Good dude. Worried about him.

Pretty much worried about everybody is my yeah i think you have to be at this point um per per the uh whatever the ringers post show is like that song in the books it does it's usually uh accompanies like very very uh bad scenes they the writers addressed us in the after show thing too they talked about it they said in the book um martin the writer george rr martin he wrote like a couple lines and they actually had to finish out the all the lyrics for the show version of it oh nice yeah but it was just a really cool like kind of eerie when When you said Martin, I was thinking Martin Lawrence and how tight that would be if he wrote one.

Yeah, I wasn't talking about Martin Lawrence. They brought in Martin to just help out. Martin! That would have been great. Damn, Gina. Will, dude, I can't even tell you how disappointed I am that your wallflowers didn't come through this time. You went down low.

I did it a little more low-key this time. Man, we just talked about some Game of Thrones, son. You didn't hear any of it? Didn't hear any of it. I heard one thing in between songs. Someone said, like, this next episode

is the episode. Are you excited to watch? Like, are you torqued? Yeah, I am. I have to admit, in the beginning of, like, when Game of Thrones wasn't the cultural phenomenon

this was probably three seasons ago I was like it seems nerdy as hell it's been a it's been a phenomenon much longer than three seasons ago

but like it's really turned into something massive sure like unavoidable it was avoidable before it's unavoidable now

but yeah I'm pretty excited for it honestly i kind of just want this season to be over just so i can start it but like i know i can't start early during nights like last night when it just takes over twitter i mean it i mean i'm talking i muted everything 75 of my tweets are about game of thrones i muted every single possible thing you can mute i just imagine what it's like for someone let's say you didn't mute all that stuff, just someone who doesn't watch the show to be on Twitter and be like, I am missing out on all of this discussion.

I don't know what any of this shit means. You can make the case. I muted everything before last season. So you can make the case that had I not muted it, maybe seeing all that would have gotten me to watch it. Can I propose a segment? Yeah. I'm pointing my finger in the air.

Hear ye, hear ye. Can we do... She is very beautiful to me. That's kind of what I was thinking. Can we do Avengers? Can we all start the Avengers and watch all three or two, however many there are? Because I think that's something I'm missing out on.

I don't even know anything about the Avengers. I don't either. But I talked to my cousin, and he gave me some intel on how I should start watching Marvel movies. Well, I want to do... I'm low-key starting. I want to do it too. If you just watch the Avengers

and not all the sub-movies about each individual character, you don't need the other stuff, is what I'm saying. You can just pick up right there and it'll give you a high-level overview of everything if you say so

there's really good parts of Twitter that are really really into it like people I follow and really like and I wish I was in on it because I see the references they're super entertaining

and I kind of want to get in on it so while while you guys were doing this I did some I did some research you know I'm not just going to

waste my time while you guys are talking about Game of Thrones I need to bring something to the podcast. I didn't. I just have Wikipedia open. And so what I learned is that Jacob Dillon, the lead singer of the Wallflowers,

is a very philanthropic human being. You guys aware of this? No. Not only did he get an honorary doctor of letters degree from Idaho State University, one of the most prestigious universities in Idaho, as you know. Of course. He's also a massive supporter of diabetes awareness,

as well as Crohn's and colitis. Damn. Each year since 2012, he's provided musical entertainment and an annual event put on by Connecting to Cure, a nonprofit dedicated to promoting awareness and funding research to cure Crohn's and colitis. Good for him. What a guy.

Is it like a family thing? Does he have that? I don't know. What's the connection? It doesn't even say. Okay. Well, good for him. Yeah.

He did. So it is big that he has an Idaho State University degree now because he dropped out of college after one semester to move back to LA and pursue his dreams. i learned that as well he couldn't handle make sense he couldn't handle new york like me he just had to get out after a little bit yeah when your dad's bob dylan like why like why do you even bother going to like like college like don't fake it just like ride his coattails you think think his dad paid some coach or something $500,000 to get him into college? Maybe.

Like he faked some crew team photos as a recruit? Lori Loughlin's daughter is just getting dragged. Didn't she kind of ask for this or that she posted some dumbass video? That she said she didn't care about actually learning anything.

She just cared about the experience and going to college and studying abroad and stuff. Correct. Yeah, she did. It's not the move. Yeah, but there's a lot more. I don't know. I don't think she should take all the blame. Through the daughter or Lori?

The daughter. Well, no. The parents of the idiots. Well, yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty lenient on that I did I did have Lori Loughlin looking me in the face multiple times per day

because my parents my mom subscribes to People Magazine and there's a People Magazine that sits on the counter next to the bathroom

in the guest bathroom my parents place and I would just be I would just see her face she was on the cover and I was like ugh I was like

I'm ready for this whole story to die. Still got it. Oh she looks great. Still got it. Oh she's smoking. A buddy of mine sent me a photo of her walking into the courthouse and she she's doing big things. She's a rocket. Yeah. Do they let snacks like that in the courthouse? You know people, a lot

of people think that the twins from Full House are the kids that were, the kid that was in Big Daddy. Wait the Olsen twins? No, no, no. They had other twins. Lori Loughlin's kid's in Full House. Oh. Dylan probably has no clue what we're talking about right now.

Okay. I'm not a big Full House guy, though. I did watch Full House. Full House weirded me out because I feel like when I started watching it, I was the same age as – I was older than the Olsen twins, and now I'm the same age as them. It just really confused me. They grow up so fast. It was a show that I tried to get into because everybody in third grade was talking about it.

And I was a poser. So I just had topical knowledge of it. I liked Cousin Joey because he wore Red Wings jerseys. I thought Uncle Jesse was tight. I was like, Uncle Jesse was tight that was I was like Uncle Jesse's always combing his hair man

oh she was DJ was kinda hot and so like that's why I watched it okay but wait so it's not the Big Daddy Kid

no it's like two random people there's another show that they were on like Zack and Cody people thought it was like them like it's not them

doesn't make any sense. They're just mixing twins. Is this the Mandela effect a little bit? Maybe. No, this is more Mercury being in retrograde. A buddy of mine, he was a twin, and he was one of the final two sets of twins to be the babies in Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Because you know, they have to get twins because the kids can't work like long hours.

And yeah, he was one of the last two. Didn't make it though. That's too bad. You hate to see that. What a story, man. How'd we get here? I don't know.

I mean, I can say that you probably spend 90% of your life in underwear so don't you think you owe it to yourself to make sure that you're wearing the softest undies

in town? Yeah. At this point, I have so softest undies in town? Yeah. At this point, I have so many me undies that I think I could go a month without wearing the same pair. Yeah. Same.

And they go so hard. They're just soft. They've got the micromodal fabric. They sent me some all black ones recently. Yeah? I'm just murdered out now. It's great. You're saying it's just murdered out? Just murdered out. I look I'm just murdered out now. It's great. Your, your thing is just murdered out.

Just murdered out. I look fantastic. Dave. Yeah. They sent me some, they sent me some low key, like, you know,

like muted green ones and I'll mess with them. They have the new, uh, they have the new hole so you can go through the gate rather than over the, uh, over the fence. I don't have those yet. Yeah.

Oh baby. It's a game changer. It changes everything. Uh, but yeah, they're the, they're the go-to for the softest lounge around the fez. I don't have those yet. Yeah, I don't either. Oh, baby. It's a game changer. It changes everything. But yeah, they're the go-to for the softest lounge around the planet. You can hang out in their lounge pants

and onesies. Do you have a onesie, Dylan? No, I have the lounge pants, though. You want to? I feel like you could get a onesie off. I probably could. The lounge pants are great

because they're basically just long underwear. They don't fit super tight. Yeah. They're the same material as the underwear. Same micromodal fabric that's three times softer than cotton. And they just go down to your ankle, your foot, and they're just crazy comfortable. Well, right now, they've got a great offer for our listeners.

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You leaving Wednesday? I'm leaving Wednesday town again this weekend. You leaving Wednesday? I'm leaving Wednesday night, which means we can either do the Patreon episode with your boy early, or you can have another guest on. You can have Barrett run it back. I'm down with either. When are you getting back in town? I'll be back in the United States on Monday,

but I'm flying really late into Dallas, and so I'm sleeping there and then heading... I'll be back here Tuesday morning. Let's just knock it out. Let's do it. I want to be on the Patreon. Let's knock it out. You're going to get cucked.

Someone's going to come on. I know. Barrett already knocked it out. Liv did too. And you're just going to end up losing your job. All right. This is me formally announcing that I'll be on every episode this week, despite my schedule. So let's record early Wednesday.

Then let's go catch a lunch somewhere. Okay. Come back and we'll do the Patreon. I mean, okay. What do you mean? Is that alright? Yeah. I have an alternative plan,

but yeah. What is it? This will work. Just stay tuned. Okay. I guess we will. What are you up to over there? Nothing.

What's going on here? Nothing. I just wanted to work that out. Alright, man. I felt like naked last week. I couldn't be on my episodes. It's the first one you missed, man. I Nothing. What's going on here? Nothing. I just wanted to work that out. All right, man. I felt like naked last week. I couldn't be on my episodes. It's the first one you missed, man. I know.

It doesn't feel good. I just had a hectic couple weeks right now. Okay. Anything else in closing? I'm gassed, man. Talking through Game of Thrones gasses me. The anticipation is killing me. It's going to be a big episode. I might just catch this episode. Don't. If there's one, don't. gasses me. The anticipation is killing me.

It's going to be a big episode. I might just catch this episode. Don't. If there's one, don't. This would really suck. Dude, I might just

scoop it. So when are we starting the Avengers? TBD. Okay. I think the next show I start watching in the meantime

to hold me over, I think I'm going to get into billions. That's been recommended to me, too. So if anyone has a Showtime password out there, my DMs are open. Let's push Avengers until Game of Thrones is over. It's just another month. Okay.

Even though it's just a movie. Just saying. I'm just saying let's not mix conversations yet. Yeah. I love mixing convos, though. Sir Mix-a-Lot. Yeah. People do call him that.

That's what they call Dave. Mix Master Mike. Hey, quick shout-out to all of you who keep signing up for Patreon. Yeah. That thing just keeps growing, and we love you for it. Shout-out to the people that call. And to the people that call. Absolutely.

I mean, they're really the people that make the episodes good and worth a subscription. I'll say this, our calls on Circling Back are better than our calls on a former small to mid-sized podcast. The array of calls, the quality, the sheer volume. People are bringing it. It's great. Another thing, let me just point this out on the Patreon.

If you are going to call and you're going to try to correct something from Dylan and I's five-minute segment on Game of Thrones, don't bother because it's not getting played. And it's not that I have thin skin. It's just that Will's presumably going to be on it. And I'm not going to do Game of Thrones stuff on the Patreon. Oh, also, we're just not that hardcore in a Game of Thrones.

Like some Game of Thrones nerds. You guys are like casual fans. Yeah. I'm into it, but I'll fuck up a name. I forgot one of the main characters. Yeah. I don't know. I just blanked. That up a name. I forgot one of the characters. Daenerys? Yeah. I don't know. I just blanked. That's one of the only names I know. I know Daenerys. I know Joffrey and Jon Snow.

Somebody hit me up and was like, dude, Dave, I don't know how you forget that name. I said, well, I'm a human. Yeah. And it was Monday morning. Damn, dude. Get off Dave's back, y'all. He's trying over here. No, dude. Step off. I'm fucking out here. Will's over blaring one headlight and I'm trying to not bop to it. I actually didn't.

If you do want to know what songs I did today, I went Three Marlenas into Sixth Avenue, Heartache into The Difference. Hotta Break. Hotta Break. I like that version better. Sixth Avenue, Heartbreak. That's really the only three songs I like by them besides One Headlight, too. Yeah, I think that's how most people feel.

Yeah, like their top four on Spotify really are good. Catalog's limited. I think I dropped this stat last time, but One Headlight has been streamed 89 million times on Spotify. That's doing numbers. Yeah. If we had that for every podcast episode, we would be... We'd be doing well. 100,000 airs.

Yeah, we're not quite there. It would be tight. Shall we wrap it up? We shall. That was a fun one. Long one. Right? It was long.

80 minutes. Yeah. We got one off today. All right. We'll see you guys Wednesday. Love you. Bye. Thank you.