Circling Back - NBA Debacle & Heavy Ball with Taylor McHargue | Circling Back 10-23-25

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, All right, we're back. It's Thursday. Circling Back podcast, welcome. Producing as always is Randall Trimbecky. Hi, Dave. How you doing? I am doing just all right, I guess. You know, how about I start off on a positive note, then not a positive? First of all, I'll be the first to wish Dylan a happy birthday. Oh, thanks for Andy.
Starting point is 00:00:38 That's today. Today's my birthday, man. Wow. Yeah, 42 years young. 42. Getting up there. Looking good. Yeah, thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Well, that was really nice of you to be the first. Yes. And for the negative? Oh, one, I'm drinking out of the hot dog mug for you. That's kind. Oh, that's very cool. In reality, I just, I forgot my wife. bottle what are you drinking by the way oh this is some pre-brew coffee it needs water that's
Starting point is 00:01:03 what we call water he calls water i'm gonna call you out a little bit i haven't seen your drink out of any of the spooky mugs this season yet we got the jason one the spooky bitch mug what are you doing the truth is i've been consuming my bing vong early in the morning and i get here i'm already caffeinated so um you know what i i'll it's not too late i will get the spooky shit out. It's a matter of when he's been consuming his bing ball. Yeah, I mean, that that's fair. Stone Creek is a great, uh, Bing Bong. For the bad news is we are having audio issues for the live stream. So if it happens, just call it on the chat and I'm, I got a Band-Aid on something that needs stitches. But if you're listening at home on the pod, you're fine. Band-aid on something that
Starting point is 00:01:43 needs stitches. You get it? Yeah, I straight up thought you said, jizz. I'm sorry. That's what I thought you said. And I was very confused what was going on there, stitches. So yeah, we're just, uh, we're crossing her fingers, everything is great. You know what? Randy, I came in here before the show, and Randy was like, I could, you know, stressed Randy is very evident when you see him. And I was like, uh-oh. I was like, what are you doing? And he's like, ah, audio, making a noise, squeal. What's the noise? It's like a squeal. It was a squeal, so I switched it to a different source. I mean, who hasn't dealt with that? Yeah, exactly. I love consuming my favorite shows where
Starting point is 00:02:13 there's just a squeal going on. No squeal right now. There shouldn't be. So, but I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to have a great podcast. That's very cool. Here's the guy, uh, birthday guy, doing shivery yes uh spent my morning volunteering at the uh elementary school my son goes to school it was fun run day and my job was checking in all the parents all the guests oh yeah it was five had a good time do you check them in i checked them in man how they looking uh good crop this year good crop of parents i don't mean how they look i just asking i don't know man is there anything anybody notable like any famous people no no famous people i'm probably the most famous one You know, the most famous parent there.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Did they know it was your birthday? Did you have a little penned where, like, people could go pin dollar bills on you for your birthday? Some of, some of Parks' friends' parents knew that it was my, I don't know how. I guess if, I don't know. Probably listening to the show. They knew. Probably listening to the show. I hope they don't listen to the show.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Why? This is an immature sophomore, just embarrassment of a show. We're extremely mature. Now, 42 spankans. We've got a football man on the show today. We do. We got a big-time football guy. Can I introduce him?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Please do. People probably already know this, but Taylor McCargg serves. as a college football analyst for CBS sports and ESPN, drawing on his experiences, a former Rice Owls quarterback to break down plays and share broadcast insights. His posts often spotlight creative schemes, game-winning moments in the excitement of lesser-known matchups in conferences like Conference USA. He balances professional commentary with humorous takes on parody and rivalries while supporting causes such as breast cancer awareness.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Ladies and gentlemen, Taylor McCarge. Where did you find that? Did chat GPT come over there? Conference champion Rice Alcorac. There we go, indeed. Welcome. Thank you guys for having you. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Thank you. And teammate of a good friend, uh, Kline. Oh, I didn't want to, I didn't want to slow it under, but yeah. Clank Kube. That's right. What's up, man? Hey, thank you guys for having me, man. Place looks great.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah. Also, yeah, he's also our, our real estate guy. That's right. Dylan, you got a bone to pick with him over that. Go ahead. I think it's more you guys have a bone. I don't have a bone. Someone's got a bone.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Is it Brett? Let's have it. Is it Brett's bone? It's all right. He's not here. So it's playing on Brett. Here's the bone. We'll say bread and well.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Seems like Dylan dies. Here's the bone. I, no. Don't make me do this. No, you told us that after we got the lease here that you would take us out for a round of golf. We're still supposed to play a lion's. And we haven't done that yet. We haven't done it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 No, it's 100% on me. Yeah, we've been here since 20. And it's still going to happen. 22. So where do you want to go? Hey, dude, I'm ready. Yeah, for sure. We're going to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I do owe you that. It should be easy to get us all scheduled for like a round of golf, you know. We had it scheduled and then I think you back out. At this point, let's just wait for the next time. It's very similar to our, you know, when you said you could throw it further than I could. Right. There was a technical difficulty. This is my fault.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Yes. It did rain. It was raining heavily that day. I thought y'all actually did. We started it and it was like drizzling like, okay, let's try to get this in because there was a big, a big cell moving in. And then the cell hit hard. And we got out there We had to call it
Starting point is 00:05:20 Which you would win that If we did that today You would win that You think so? I would think, yeah Did you see the video of him thrown against Bortles? No.
Starting point is 00:05:27 From back in the day? Bordals got me. Well, turns out Bordles That's okay. He's very big. He's a big guy. He's a huge man.
Starting point is 00:05:34 AFC championship game. Also, the ball wasn't regulation though. It was rubber and I couldn't get a good The one that you threw with Bortles? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Why? You didn't have a... You would take that guy just like travels around with the ball, right? He doesn't. You know, I don't think dude you have to he like he's he just has to hold it at all times people are walking by trying
Starting point is 00:05:54 to slap it out of his hands i don't mean like walk around that but like throw one in the truck that was the day we were in that was in panavidra he was playing the players championship he was you're right retired yet and we were going to the um we were going to the players championship that day and so was he and he showed at like the pGA tour people brought them by our our condo and he was just i mean he's hammering beers yeah he was was hammering beers he was going to the golf tournament and they were going to escort him around like a vip which he was he was the man in jacksonville at that time so he did not have a football on his person i think the tour came up with the ball and they brought that little yeah they they
Starting point is 00:06:31 strove down to like the local i don't know sporting goods to franklin rubber football exactly yeah it's tough but he did he did get me that's all right it's okay yeah that's okay um yeah so welcome taylor thank you good to be here Long time coming. I'm fired up. Glad this worked out. You got any bones to pick with Dylan or any of us? You got something, man?
Starting point is 00:06:56 Man, I'm sure I do, but nothing that I would air publicly. No, of course not. I don't see the trail anymore because I moved. Well, and I also am not on the trail anymore. Oh, okay. So that's also that. I used to see him on the trail a lot. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Was he always popping top? 100%. Yeah. With the dog. Yeah. Putting out the vibes. You know. There's no doubt.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yeah, yeah. The only way to catch bees is with a little bit of honey, you know. What do you refer? far and two exactly. I don't know. I don't know. Conversation with people like Taylor. I got you. Yeah. Yeah, man. I think, I can't believe this is the first and the only time you've been on the show.
Starting point is 00:07:32 First time, long time coming. Klein's been on the show. Could be a recurring thing. Would love it. I mean, I live 10 minutes from here. Do you really? Yeah. Okay. Here's where you will be useful for this program. I want to be useful. We love ball. We love ball. Yeah. We talk ball. Do we know ball? Eh, kind of. you probably i mean with like we were talking about texas earlier you probably you definitely know more
Starting point is 00:07:54 about texas than i do but if you want to get into like the weeds on group of six mountain west football you want to talk these tuesday night games and why people were playing on tuesday and yeah we had an overtime game on tuesday night um but yeah we get into whatever so you're a certified ball noer okay sure yeah i mean i i it's you know that's kind of what i get paid for you're an analyst and a former football player once upon a time yeah conference champion this guy won the fucking conference starting quarterback that's right you don't see that every day rice is a good school a smart guy school randy smart guy school randy you couldn't get in i couldn't get in i didn't apply either i think i could get in you think he could get in it's a good
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Starting point is 00:10:34 Use code washed for 20% off. Your first order plus free shipping over $50. My first question for Taylor, when you go through college football analyst school do they just give you like a cool pair of tennis shoes to wear with your suit or like what or do you bring that from home how does that go okay this is like a I feel like controversial what are y'all's thoughts on the suit with whatever kind of whether it's Jordan's dunks sneakers in general because I feel like this is a very there's a lot of people to me if you're in a suit you need to be in dress shoes to me it's like You're at a wedding, and then, like, you're a few drinks in, and then the dance floor gets fired up. Like, all right, I'm going to take, you know, take off my. Okay. So you're two shoes at the wedding.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And it's like, these are my dancing sneakers to go along with my, with my suit. So you think if I'm wearing dunks with a suit. That's just what I, that's just the look I, I imagine, you know. Okay. I'm going to be transparent. I have been critical of this look, but most of it is the fact that just every one, it's the analyst look yeah everyone does it but like when they're like standing there like i say they you're you're part of this too you're part of the problem too no it's just funny because like whenever
Starting point is 00:11:53 i see like the you know they'll post like a pregame gram it's like oh me and me and bryce on the call today yeah there's always a look and it's like it's like y'all think y'all are getting away with something and you kind of are because you're doing something with the shoe that most people aren't able to do like if you wear a suit to like court or to work or wherever you're not doing that No, you're not doing that, but it's like, but it's a guy's bad, it's, it's sneaky bad boy behavior. It's the guys in the studio, too. Like ESPN, you turn on ESPN and they're talking, you know, they're talking, they're, you know, they're talking. Yeah, Orlovsky's in there with the, yeah, it's already. I'll just, I'll just issue the firm take. I don't like it regardless, same thing. I agree. I'm old man take. Should be just shoes. There's a lot of people that agree with you. And I hear that completely.
Starting point is 00:12:32 My thing, so most people, when they do a game, they don't sit, right? You have better energy when you're on your feet. And when you're standing there for, you know, total pregame, the whole thing for like five hours, the sneakers are actually just more comfortable. Now, this is a great point. The counter to that is like, go buy some freaking Cole Hans that are like basically ten issues at this point anyway. So I get it from like a style perspective. I get both sides.
Starting point is 00:12:55 There's a lot of people that think that it's a terrible one. You know the tennis shoe Koh-Hon that you're referring to that looks like a... A sneaker. It's trying to get away with something. It's not. Yeah. I would much rather see somebody in some, like, Jordan Retros. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:08 In a suit than those. Because I think those are, like, stand out to me more. Yeah. Co-Hans, my dude. I think I was 80% that I didn't like it. And then I got radicalized after the Ryder Cup. I'm like 100% I don't like it. Well, that was terrible.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. Because the Ryder Cup, and I completely agree with you there, that to me is like the same. level of you go to like a black tie wedding you're not going to do that it's the same thing you know you're taking the group photo for the rider cup you represent the united states and you're standing there in white sneakers with a they were in a black suit or a blue suit is bad it was terrible is bad so i don't if you saw that we lost but like you know midweek c usa you know i think it's you're right dude okay it's completely accepted i mean everyone does it it's not like like you don't stand out
Starting point is 00:13:56 amongst a group of guys who are doing this. The thing that my, you know, my hot take on this, that like you see some, not all the time, like hokas. Oh, God. That drives me nuts. If it's like a running shoe, you're in a suit. Hoka's with a three-inch heel that no one needs. But specific to this, right, where you're doing a game, you're in a suit, but you're wearing
Starting point is 00:14:17 hocus. I haven't seen the hoka look at. I'm not as big on that. Dude, if it was me, I'd hit him with the Skechers slide in that you don't have to bend down. like you just pop your foot and the heel goes in automatically. Those are kind of gangster. They're not really gangster. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:14:31 That's what I would go with. I might get married in Healy's if that works, though. And that's like kind of look. Do you still have the fake Healy's? I do. You bought roller shoes a while back. They were crowdfunded. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:42 They were like, they were roller shoes that like, they kind of like, like, collapsed out into quads. And they're extremely unstable. So some people like, we crownfunded all these shoes. I'm like, I'm going to tear something if I, try them on they're ridiculous yeah those were not good they're off-brand bulls too um what is the process for becoming a analyst so the analyst is almost always a former player or coach right makes sense and you know the highest level like herb street or troy akeman you know those are guys
Starting point is 00:15:18 that if they played at a really really high level then they're going to go straight to doing a really a high-level game. I was not, not a gold jacket guy. It wasn't like a, didn't win a Heisman. Conference champion. Yeah, Conference USA champion. But, you know, I started out doing SWAT conference games. And it's the same thing if you're trying to get recruited, right? You have a little highlight tape of your stuff, send it to ESPN and CBS and Fox, get ignored for a while, and then, you know, get a little bit better and prove yourself and games get a little better. And I think the biggest thing, you know, play by play guys, right? So like a Joe Buck, most of the time that person goes to school for it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 They went to like Syracuse or Missouri or whatever for journalism. The analyst, though, is like, like, you joke. Like, do you get, like, trained for this? You don't. Like, they just stick you in there. And there's no, there's all these, you know, behind in like the truck and everything. They've got all the like the verbiage and kind of the behind the scene stuff that you don't know. You just get in there with a headset and you're like, start talking ball.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Like literally. Did they tell you, so like after after a play, well, play by play guy explains what's going on. Like, okay, you have like 10 seconds to talk about what you just saw. Like, how does that? Yeah, the rule of thumb is just like get out of the way before the next play, right? So the play by play is the what, right? Down in distance, what's happening? And then after the play stops, that's the analyst window to say, why did they do that?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Why did that happen? And you just got to get out of the way before the next play. Because that's where if you're the play by play, you're like, I need to say, down in distance, new quarterback, whatever, and you just don't want to be talking into that person. Are you watching the live action on the field? Are you watching the telecast or a combination of watch live and then verify with your monitor? So like if you get a replay, you don't want to be caught watching because there's a little bit of a delay on your monitor. Okay. And the big one is like field goals, which every now and then you'll have one where somebody's like, it's good. And it's like 10 feet
Starting point is 00:17:14 wide, right? Because they're watching they were watching the monitor. Yeah. Oh, okay. Interesting. have you do you have any like signature bits that you've worked in there's no you know it's funny when I started doing this I had buddies that were like what's gonna be your like your stick like you know not really my zany guy you know no that would that wouldn't suit you man no honestly not really I you know I try to um I take it seriously but you try you know got to make sure that it's entertaining too because like you can't it's still football like you don't want to be overbearing to do serious but no i don't have like a tagline or like you don't bring your golden retriever to set with you every every i don't get to ride around on the pj and take a you know take a car from eugene to dallas you know pj that down there with my dog i'm not i'm not quite there yet yeah okay now here's a guy that's good that's good hey that's good pretty good yeah is there any is there any tropes you try to avoid like going you're like i'm not going to say here's a guy um i think all of the cliches in general yeah i try to you try to avoid like anything that just sounds like
Starting point is 00:18:22 well yeah of course yeah just don't be so obvious uh but the flip side of that is like you don't want to be i got to prove that i'm a ball knower like if you get in there talking into the weeds on like scheme and you know all the three techniques doing this you're like you're you know anybody watching home's like come on you don't need to if you see like a receiver who uh bigger guy and you know may not like he's out there and he's just blocking hard like you know what I mean and that's kind of his thing you run it in around to this guy's side because you know he's just going to fucking plant the guy in front of like that guy that type of receiver the no block no rock right outside like yeah you know you got to call that guy out yeah it's the wildcat package
Starting point is 00:19:08 and he comes into the game to seal the edge yeah wait do you have a can you mark up the screen telestrator yes that's fucking go yeah that's my favorite thing Now, watch this guy block out here. That's my favorite thing. I love it. I bet you do that. I would do it every play if they let me, but they don't want me to do that. That might become a little much.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's a little much. If like every play, you're like, I want you to watch this. That would be fun. It'd be super tempting to just use that every play. Do you get, so I know you do like a coach is called that you're, you know, a part of, but like, do you get to meet with any of any of the players before the game or? It depends. If it's a bigger game, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So like this week, and it's an FCS game, but it's the number one versus number two team, North Dakota State, South Dakota State, Dakota Marker, these teams are as good as it gets in FCS. And up there, that's as good of football as, you know, in like the Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota region. Like, it's like, these are
Starting point is 00:19:59 big deal. This game's a big deal. Carson Wentz. We will talk with some of the players for South Dakota State because we're going to Brookings. North Dakota State, we're doing everything on Zoom. And then some schools don't want you to talk to their players. You know, some schools are like,
Starting point is 00:20:15 hey, you're getting just this time with the coaches, but you're not talking to the kids. So it depends. Most everybody's pretty good, though. You don't really have schools very often that are like lying to you about starting quarterback or whatever. Sometimes it happens, but most of the time not. I've always had a question.
Starting point is 00:20:33 How much do you have to study the player's names beforehand? Because it seems like people calling out, they do so well just based on the number. Yeah, the biggest thing on our board, so like if you watch a game, if they show the booth, they've got these massive boards that have all the stuff on it. They have a lot of times next to a name, like especially like Samoan names,
Starting point is 00:20:53 for example, that like you really got to practice those because I'm not used to saying them a lot of times if you're not Samoan, they're like the most challenging names to say. You've got to practice them, number one. And number two, you've got it hyphenated where like,
Starting point is 00:21:05 how is it actually sound versus what does it look like? Like Cajun names as well, if it's like ends in a trow or a go and it's a ux, right? Well, a lot of times if you're from the Northeast, you may never, I've never seen that before. So it's on your board for like exactly how to say it. Or if there's like, I don't know, like a bunch of random, non-consecutive ease. Just ease that don't make any sense in someone's left. Yeah, I still don't think I know how to say about it.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah, what's going on there? It's pretty easy. It's just shivery. Shivery. I tell people the word chivalry without an L. See that. See, I would write it down next to your name. I would have it as chivalry just to remind me like, this is how you say it.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Yeah. Trying to think all the fun ways they could screw your name. month. It'd be a Chavv. I would be a Chavv guy initially looking at your thing. Chevaree. Yeah. I mean, no one says my name right. I'm glad you got it right. Everybody says the U.E. I had to tell him. He didn't know. That's okay. I had to use grok. Is that where that bio came from? It is. Incredible. Every guest gets groked. And they're usually pretty confused. Yeah. They just, it goes on. I mean, that's really, that was good. I mean, it's, it's, that's the AI tool I'm leveraging these days. I don't know where the humor i don't think i'm like a funny on social media surely surely you do surely you can get a
Starting point is 00:22:20 laugh here and there you're no dylan shivery but you're a funny guy you yeah you do have a banger tweet pretty regularly uh well thank you i mean i feel like that de shivery on twitter so does will i feel like once a month i will look up and like and you sorry i'm fine no he's he's fine i don't tweet much man i just you know me i just be chilling you know me you know me No, go ahead. That was good. I'm just gassing it. It's his birthday, man.
Starting point is 00:22:49 He's 32. 32? 32. Yeah. Did you hear about this one? You probably did. What pod did I talk about the lady who guessed my age or the lady who was like, couldn't believe I was 41?
Starting point is 00:23:01 I was like, it's three or four ago, I want to say. So it was like a swim lessons. There's another mom who just met and we were talking and she's younger. And she's like, wait, how old are you? And I was like, I'm 41. She's like, really? Really? And I was like, hell yeah, what's she about to say? Like, you look, you look, she's like, I would have guessed 38.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I was like, okay. That's not, that's not so different. It's ball. It's the barge of air. Yeah, yeah. He looked just like that when he was 38, by the way. Yeah, I was like, thanks. I was looking for 35. But no, that's really cool, awesome stuff. Look forward. Maybe we should do like a play date with the kids sometime now. No, it was just a thing that I totally let go and I don't think about it at all. Yeah, at all.
Starting point is 00:23:45 You know, it's fine. No, man, I'm not bringing it up three weeks later. You want to get into some tortilla talk? Yeah. What do you think about that? You want to let's all I got Tuvala. Knock it out. Because we got, we got.
Starting point is 00:23:58 That's your job, dude. Oh, Jesus. Birthday boy. Tovala. Where would we be without our tovallas? Probably cook it boring. It's a smart oven. It's a smart oven that connects to Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Air fryer. It's an air fryer. It's a toaster oven. That's huge. It steams. It broils. It kind of does everything. And like I said, it's a smart oven.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You connect it to Wi-Fi. There's an app. It's crazy. They send you meals. They have a meal subscription plan, too. And guess what? It comes with a QR code. Your smart oven will scan the code.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah. And you put your food in and it'll do everything it needs to do without you have to touch anything. It cooks it perfectly. The technology is crazy. I didn't realize it did all that. When I opened that box and saw that there was like a card with like a Wi-Fi thing, and all this. I was like, oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Yeah. It's a next level, man. The chicken, the chicken tariaki and broccoli. Do you have that one? I had that one. Delightful. Delightful and healthy. Yeah. It's not just for their meals. Tovala's smart oven, you can also use it to scan store-bought groceries like ego waffles, Pillsbury cinnamon rolls, Amy's frozen meals, to name a few, and it knows how to cook them too. Didn't you do some sweet potatoes? I did some sweet potatoes, yeah. I did, yeah, I air-fried some sweet. First time I've ever air fry anything. It was surprisingly very simple. It's crazy. The tech is there. The tech is nuts,
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Starting point is 00:26:01 With Tovala, dinner's taken care of. Wow. Beautiful. Dylan says it's a sexy little bitch. Yeah, it kind of is, man. I mean, it's just a, yeah, you're right, it is. So tortillas, though.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You hear about this tortilla situation at Lubbock way? I mean, I don't, number one, played at Tech, wild fan base. Okay. Indeed. I mean, they're, and y'all have been there, too. Dylan knows this quite well. They usually have certain. They harassed me, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:34 They harassed it. Well, what did you do? Did you? I'm a Texas fan. He's a Texas fan. They hate Texas more than anybody else. And here's what I respect about tech fans. Okay. They talk a lot of shit. No doubt. Historically, haven't been great. Tremendous shit talk. Not conference champions, at least big 12. They talk almost more shit after a loss. They don't shut. You think they're humbled by it. They're like, I don't fucking care. Like, fuck you. I hate you. I hate your team. But you have to respect that, right? Where like, now that they're good, it's,
Starting point is 00:27:07 the same. I mean, you're getting the same intensity. It doesn't matter. Yeah. I think they're trying to, the tortilla deal was fun and lighthearted until a pocket knife got thrown on the field. And then it's like, I don't know. They're trying to clean that up. They got a chance to probably be a playoff team this year. Can I correct you? Because they're going to come for your ass too. And I don't want that. But the pocket knife was mistake, right? A video came out. Yeah, that showed someone, they played Kansas, right? Yep. He was Kansas.
Starting point is 00:27:40 An assistant coach dropped a pocket knife, like tossed it out. Another coach comes up and picks it up and says like, what the fuck is this? It was not thrown. False flag. I don't know how. Allegedly. The video is not super clear. Got it.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Just wanted to say that there is some gray area. There is. Perfect. The Lubbock mafia. They are going to come for me now for this. Our friend south of the loop, go for our friend Taylor. That's okay. Either way, though, we're talking about tortillas, man.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I mean, I always liked that tradition. I thought it was kind of endearing. I think it's great. But whatever. It's, you know, the fact that a AD has to start a press conference about how they're not going to throw tortillas is like kind of perfect. It was hilarious. He was so, like, serious about it. And he was like, this is all me.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. We've got to be better. I encourage you. You got to be better. We're like, again, just like, wait. We're talking about tortillas. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah. Meanwhile, the NBA is, you know, the mafia is. tied in to it. They're not passing out. College football is not that. They're not passing out brass knuckles as you enter the stadium. There's, these are tortillas, you know. Yeah, that's good. Brass knuckles. That was the thing in like eighth grade. First 20,000 fans get free brass knuckles. It's free brass knuckles. I feel like everybody had, this might be me outing my friends. Everybody had like a friend or a friend's friend who like his dad had like brass knuckles in his closet or something. It was like, you didn't have that rumor. I don't think I ever dealt
Starting point is 00:29:05 with that. Shout to my buddy Will. He had. actually had brass knuckles. I don't know why he had those. Why his parents let him have him but he don't need him. I was like too, what are we going to do with these? I don't think we're to school. That's some real mafia shit. He never brought him to school. He just had him like in case. I don't know, dude. Anyway, better than I have him and not need him. That's a great point. Randy's sword guy. I do. I have two swords. Well, I have one sword and then I also house Brett's sword. I am the weapon master for Brett. Were you a big fan of Joe Burrow giving his lineman swords? I was. That was sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I actually thought that was pretty cool. And they were like real samurai swords. Yeah. That's sick. Y'all need one of those in here. We do. Why don't we have? Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:29:45 The one thing this deal does not have. Samurai sword would really hit. Do you see our arch or sign of Arch jersey we got? That's awesome. I love that. Pretty cool. Our boy, Adam sent that to us. What's going on with Arch?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Do you hear my arch story? I do. I have one arch story. That family is incredible. I mean, first off. So I've worked there at the Manning Camp for like 10 years. They are incredible. I haven't ever told really anybody this story.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So two years ago, we are in Tibado, which is where the camp is, and we're dinner the last night and Garrett Gilbert, former Texas quarterback, we're standing there talking. And I've known we're not like, you know, we're not like, I'm not texting Arch, right? But like he knows I've been around them long enough for the, through the camp, knows that I'm in Austin. I'm standing there talking to Garrett Gilbert And Arch turns around And he starts talking with us And he's like hey Garrett are you going back to Austin tomorrow
Starting point is 00:30:44 He's like no I'm going to I live in Dallas now He looks at me he's like are you going back to Austin I was like I am did you want a ride I was like what are you are you driving You're like no we got Quinn's plane Quinn had his I don't think it was net jets But whatever is sponsored How many hours he got
Starting point is 00:31:01 I got a little ride home with just me, Quinn, and Arch. I was like, we get to the FBI and home of Louisiana and people are like taking pictures of them and they're looking at me. I'm like, give me the phone. I'll take the, I'll take the picture. That's how it is.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'm going on to ruin your picture. That's how it is going on to Sixth Street with Dylan. Yeah, that's my art story. That's sick. That's great. College kids, man. Quinn's getting started. What did you guys talk about on the plane?
Starting point is 00:31:25 Nothing. They went to sleep immediately. Really? And I was like looking at the, they had like snacks and drinks and everything. And I'm like, I want to act like the college kid go nuts in here, but I didn't. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Listen to probably y'all's podcast. What a guy, man. That's cool. What a guy. So, Arch, you got any arch-related questions? You got the football man here? He said, before we started recording, I said, what's your take on, like, what's wrong with the Texas offense and Arch? So I'll ask you that now.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. Look, they're not as, they are not as dynamic at receiver as last year. They are not basically across the board as good on the offensive line as they were last year. And when you can't run the ball, Arch is, I don't think it's nearly as bad as some people make it sound with Arch. He's also not playing as well, nearly as well
Starting point is 00:32:15 as I think we all expected him to. But a year ago, and his starts against, and I get they weren't great teams, but against Mississippi State and UTSA, they were able to run the ball well. And when you got a young quarterback, I mean, that helps you tremendously where a lot of his shot plays came off of either he was running the ball,
Starting point is 00:32:32 pulled it and took off, or play action, Sark schemes somebody open and there's somebody running kind of wide open. This year, the counter, you know, kind of talk out of both sides of my mouth, he is missing throws that he should be making. And that happens basically every game. You can go all the way back to the Ohio State game where that last drive down the stretch, third and fourth down, like he's got to hit those throws.
Starting point is 00:32:54 The shallow crosser, he struggles with. He is not throwing the ball well. on stuff on the move. But there's even, like, we were talking off air about the one Kentucky where the tied in is kind of standing wide open and he misses him. So, look, I still think he's got a tremendous upside. He's still young.
Starting point is 00:33:11 He has not started a ton of college football games. That being said, yeah, he's not playing as well as I think we all expected him to. And Texas on offense, it sucks for Texas fans because you're not timing up what you wanted this offense to be with the defense that they have. Right. And I, because I just, this is not, in all likelihood, this is not a national championship team.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I'm not sure that this is a playoff team. They got to run the table basically the rest of the way. And then I think they'd get in. But I don't think at nine and three they get in. No. So, you know, they're only a touchdown favor right now on the road in Mississippi State. That's not an easy place to go play. So they still shaping down there?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Who's their quarterback? Is it still, I didn't even, I haven't followed them. They look good early on. They still have, they still have Vandy. They still have Texas A&M. They still have Georgia. Is Vandy at Vandy? It's in Austin.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Texas is favored. I think that's next week. I think there's three and a half point. I was going to be a home dog to that one. Three and a half point favors. Who are some quarterbacks that you like, lesser known? It doesn't have to be lesser known, but like. I mean, the guys that I think are playing the best right now, well, I would have said Dante more two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:34:23 But Mendoza at Indiana. Yeah. I think even Indiana's, is he? He's a Purdue. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Mendoza's been unbelievable. And I think what Indiana is doing, I mean, that program forever was horrendous.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And then all of a sudden in two years, they've completely turned it around. That's pretty crazy. I got one for you. Yeah, let me hear. Put on like a GM cap right now. Yeah. Or a head coach or, you know, combination of two. Would you lean more toward, let's go all out and recruit this five-star quarterback who puts up
Starting point is 00:35:01 crazy numbers in high school, high-profile kid, develop them for two years? Or would you do what seems to be working out really well for these programs? It's just you go in the portal and get a guy who's already proved himself in college. Yeah, I think it depends on who you are and how much NIL you have. So if you are Texas, I think you can do both. If you're Texas, you can afford to go recruit that guy, which let's use Arch as the example. And then you can go get somebody if you needed to out of the portal because you can pay them both. If you don't have the resources to do both, I would go get the guy out of the portal because you don't have in the way that the portal works now, you could go get the five star and they could hate it, even if you sign
Starting point is 00:35:41 them to a two-year deal. They redshirt one year. Maybe they don't play great as a freshman and then they're out. Yeah. If you've got to have it now, collecting a lot of NIL dollars at the same time. If you got to have it now, there's enough examples of guys. that come in, they get there for spring ball. And I think the new transfer portal window that's just 10 days in January, I think that's going to be great because you're going to get guys in for a full calendar year and you're not going to have guys jumping in the spring semester where they get into, I think it was in May and then they leave.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I think that's going to be a big deal. But if it were me, if I was a college GM, I would lean more towards going to get a guy out of the portal if you were really confident in them. You look at the top teams in the country right now. Julian Sane is kind of an interesting because he transferred, but he did. it before he really got any meaning for playing time. But I mean, Dante Moore, Mendoza is a transfer. Correct me if I'm wrong. Carson Beck, I know Miami just lost. Carson Beck, obviously, was a already proven guy. Matir was a proven guy when he transferred to OU. Yeah, I had
Starting point is 00:36:38 Mateer last year and thought he was unbelievable when he was at Washington State and thought he was unbelievable. I actually think, I mean, he got hurt and it's unfortunate, but, you know, they've kind of stalled out on offense in the middle of the season, but he's a really good player. Simpson at Alabama was not a transfer. He's a homegrown guy, right? Yeah, he's been playing as well as anybody. That's kind of the outlier. It is.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And it's kind of a cool story, and I know everybody's probably still got Bama fatigue. Especially at the quarterback position, it's becoming very rare for a guy to, like, stick with his team from freshmen throughout and become successful. It just doesn't happen very much. But if it does, it's pretty much at a place like, you know, Gunnors Stockton, too, at Georgia. Right. Because if you do, you know, play at a place like Washington State, and you play really well, you're probably not going to stick around at Washington State. No, it's pretty rare now.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I mean, if you are that good, the money available to a top 10 transfer portal quarterback is just, it's hard to. Yeah. It's hard to say no to. What's it looking like for rice? Man, there's some, I can't, it's not my news to share, but there's some stuff about rice that's that will be coming out soon, big time stuff. really, you know, Rice brought in a new coach last year. And look, I know your listeners is probably the most Rice football talk they'll get all year. So I'll keep it, I'll keep it brief. A lot of Houston people listening. It is, I'm encouraged that they want to make sure that the program,
Starting point is 00:38:07 whatever happens next in the conference realignment, they want to make sure that they're in a position to move up. So that's all you can really hope for, right? They don't want, last administration, I think, was like, just keep the thing alive. Like, don't. don't get us in a scandal and, like, win a few games here and there. New president, new AD, new head coach. I think they're doing a lot more for the program than they were 10 years ago. And, of course, they're changing the name of the stadium to Klein Kubiak Memorial Field. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah. Memorial. Memorial. Well, just like it's just like a tip of the cap. And the field itself is going to be washed field. It's going to be washed field. Walsfield at Undisclosed amount of money.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Cubby Lake Memorial Stadium. To be clear, Klein is alive and well. Yeah. Klein's doing great. He's doing great. He's doing great. Got to see him last weekend?
Starting point is 00:38:58 He was here. We went to Mattel Ranchos. Maddell Ranchos. You might have heard of it. Mattel Ranchos and Mattel Ranchos. We have sound effects. I love that. Yeah, we're a big time, man.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But yeah, we had a nice little dinner with him. He's thriving. Klein. Yeah. Is he not? Kind of is. Yeah, he's got a little one. Just turned one, I believe.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Um, Overall thoughts on the Big 12. You talk tech. So I do a show every week for the Big 12. And it actually airs tonight, 6 o'clock, True TV. It is a league that at the top I think is still really good and at the bottom is really bad. And I think the challenge for the Big 12 moving forward, how do they get two teams into the playoff? And they want really badly to get two teams in.
Starting point is 00:39:45 And I just, there's a chance that that could happen this year. but you need basically some combination of Texas Tech, Arizona State, BYU, and Utah have got to keep winning. And then you need to get to the Big 12 championship with two losses, maybe. And that's got to be your champion. And then whoever they beat has one loss. Like, we're getting in the weeds in October about the playoff. Arizona State, two losses, one of the losses without Sam Levitt.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Right. So I think that, you know, I'm just thinking, because I've been on them for, because they took down T-State. Okay, they took down Baylor. So I got to see the back-to-back weeks, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they're still really good. Yeah, they are. And they should have beat Mississippi State, which is a place that I think that loss is aging better than... On the road, right?
Starting point is 00:40:30 Right. And Sam Levitt didn't play great, but Arizona State's still really good. I still think Texas Tech is the best team in the league. They didn't have Baron Morton last week, and still, I mean, they had a lead with a minute left in that game. Yeah, that was crazy. I think BYU is pretty good. They got a freshman quarterback. The words number 47.
Starting point is 00:40:46 If you're up late watching Bear Bachmeyer. He's, uh, they got a really good defense. And then Utah, I think is probably the fourth best team in the league. I don't think that's a playoff team. But, you know, the big 12, I will give them credit and Brett Yormark their commissioner. That league almost died. I mean, a few years ago, and this whole thing was falling apart. What happened to the PAC 12 could have happened to the big 12. And it didn't. They rallied and they picked up teams like Colorado and they got the Arizona, Arizona state, um, and Utah. And, you know, it. it's a i think it's an extremely entertaining league but you know there's the bottom of that league
Starting point is 00:41:23 is is really bad pack 12's back though dude they are back you saw what's happening next year let's go those cats are going to texas state baby j j jxas state Washington state we're going to turn this thing around next tuesday got james madison a good james madison team at home we're going to turn this little three game skid into jj's awesome yeah i love the guy i've tried to get him on he's awesome not tried that hard but like he's very busy easy coaches football but like trying to get one on the fall yeah i'm like hey dude you just take like a pop up here like tuesday at four o'clock we'll take you a taco deli man it's on us um no but yeah i mean it's cool that like we we're gonna go next tuesday we're gonna be down there for uh for that game
Starting point is 00:42:05 but yeah they're going they're going to pack 12 which i know it's it's it looks a little different but it's still cool so my main deal is with cbs sports and cbs sports is now the main and they've got the contract with the Pact 12s. Maybe have a little Texas State next year. We'll see. Give you some insider info. I can tell you what bars to go to 20 years ago. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:29 You got to check this place out. It's not there anymore. But there is a Chimmy's, and that's all you need to know. There is a Chimmy's on the square. That's cool. I've only been to Chimmy's in Lubbock. It's one of those places where you go, you're like, oh, this is fine. We got to hit Chimmy's.
Starting point is 00:42:45 You want to hit Chimmy's? yeah of course okay food's fine but margaritas so atmosphere you know your boy likes a margarita yeah i know you do what's the dr pepper drink they have oh i don't know i don't even know d p shootout am i making this up this rain is he's perked up we had a dr pepper shootout at peru it's like uh pretty much like it's two straws and you're trying to like chug it with someone else dr pepper or is there alcohol like a lady in the tramp but it's a shot it's something like That's how Dylan and a night party. D.P. Shootout is definitely a thing there.
Starting point is 00:43:17 It is a thing. We'll experiment. We'll get back to you on that. Yeah, it's the- flush that out. Let me know. It's a cocktail served at Chimmy's Serviceria, a restaurant and bar in Texas, known for its fun atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:43:30 This is all off the dome. The drink is a mix of vodka, amaretto, and Coca-Cola, which gives its flavor similar to Dr. Pepper. That's misleading. Okay, understood. I actually thought there was Dr. Pepper in it. DP Shootout. Got it.
Starting point is 00:43:43 All right. How about that? Shout out, Jimmy's. What other ball do you want to talk? You got any high-level ball questions? If we're done with ball, we could go to round ball. Otherwise known as basketball. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:45:53 coach of the trailblazers trailblazers has been arrested by NBA champion arrested by the FBI feds on some gambling charges yeah um so we knew there was like this big uh probe this investigation going on you saw names getting like tossed out there um dante jones involved and then today you find out like how who else is involved we've got a little mob terry rosier a lot of mob actually terry rosier damon jones are the other two basketball names involved alongside john johnson bill yeah excuse damon jones who i i recently shared the story of i i saw damon jones at the same uh craps table at the bellagio wearing the same exact outfit one year apart from each other Anyway, apparently the guy likes to gamble.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Just lives at the table. Same outfit there. Yeah, some mafia ties. We got the Gambino family. Yeah, so Chauncey Billis apparently like involved in these card games, these poker games. Rigged poker games. So apparently one of their deals was like they would like, hey, come play poker alongside these NBA players or former.
Starting point is 00:47:03 It's Chauncey Billups. I don't know if Terry Rozier was involved in the poker or not. But Chauncey Billups certainly was allegedly. So these games, they had an automatic shuffler that would stack the decks in favor of, you know, the house. Yeah. And they also had X-ray technology to read their opponent's cards. And so... That's not fair. No, no, it's certainly not.
Starting point is 00:47:32 So that all came out. Not only that, but Terry Rose. who plays for the... I don't know who his last team was. Scary Terry. He plays for somebody. He does play. He's involved in this as well. And he was giving the heat.
Starting point is 00:47:49 The heat. He was providing information on the games in which he was playing. Like, hey, one of them was, like, hey, take the under in this game on me, because I am going to have an injury in the first quarter. Nine minutes into the game, he leaves the game. And so the under, of course, is going to hit. this is all coming out and it's a big fucking deal whenever a player like gets caught up in this and then people start going back and watching like their low lights like their their low light reel and it's just like you're the tear rose ears that one is you're just watching you're like oh
Starting point is 00:48:23 this is damning i saw one earlier a game when he was just like playing he was just throwing the ball directly to the other team almost it was so bad and airballing three-pointers no no pride whatsoever just like eh it's it's ugly yeah that's obviously lifetime band situation that this is all you know i mean the player prop stuff is insane and i think you saw some in baseball too right where you had some of the pitchers i think cleveland had a pitcher involved in it where you know exact same thing telling his buddies hey i'm gonna whatever the under is man it's got to be it's got to be the easiest thing to pull off like hey like if you know someone comes you like hey we want the under to hit here right what's it worth to you
Starting point is 00:49:04 Like, if, you know, these guys obviously make millions of dollars as it is. But at a lower level, like, it's so easy to manipulate a game in favor of whoever wants you, you know. Do you think Adam Silver can survive this? There's no way, right? I don't know. I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, like, as long as this is like part of society gambling and Grant, we just did a read, like, there's nothing you can do.
Starting point is 00:49:31 These leagues are sponsored by draft kings and all these other. Yeah. I mean, the Chonsie Billop thing, Billups thing is like, okay, it's a card game. It's completely, it feels like it's completely removed from his role as an NBA coach, right? It's just you're capitalizing on, he was capitalizing on his name and notoriety. Now, the in-game stuff from players, that's a thing like has to be lifetime banned. Of course. Like you can't, I mean, Pete Rose, you go back to that. Like, you can't have any scintilla of evidence that that might be going on. Because, I mean, Mazz fans, we still think the 2005 finals was rigged. Like, absolutely. Maybe that was involved here. Let's talk about it. Let's open up a case. I have, like, my white socks, they were involved in a scandal back in, like, the early 1900s.
Starting point is 00:50:20 They were called the Black Sox back. Yeah, that's right. Arnold Rothstein. Shulishow Jackson, right? Yeah, yeah. So that was just a couple years ago. I'm just glad that the mob is back. Do the Mocostra, they're involved in it?
Starting point is 00:50:34 So back. I'm saying that right? Dude, if you're a, if you're a mobster, this has got to be like, this has got to be like the best way to make money. Is big crime back? Right. We got, we got jewel heist. We got mafia.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Dude, a documentary on this is going to just be incredible. Mafia shit's so sick. Yeah. The Gambino family, the Bonona family. Bonano. Bonano family. I mean, the Genoves family.
Starting point is 00:50:59 This is like every casino in the country is going to have to, they're going to, everybody losing money at the. the tables tonight's can be like, you know what? You need to look into this. Yeah. If your last name is Gambino, like you got to get your beak wet somehow. You know, it's just in your blood. Like, that's the family I would want to be a part of. I wonder how many actual Gambino people are involved in that family. There's just one. Because you're like the namesake isn't necessarily the head anymore. Right. Like Gotti was. That's why I like I would want to be a part of it. It just sounds hard. You show up. Like you're unrelated. You're from like Tempe.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Hey, can I apply? Your last name just happens to be Gambino and you just, just go like hey this is my lot you show them the license like dude i'm actually a gambino like what do i got to do to get yeah you got to get a bid i want yeah i want to get my bequette here yeah how do you got to go you got to prove yourself that's so sick yeah you should think you should do it if if if if watch media falls on hard times i will book a ticket and i'll go talk to the gambino family is that where you would rush yeah i told you that dude you're rushing gambino it just sounds the hardest i'm going lucasie family first Bootmakers?
Starting point is 00:52:05 There's a Luke Casey family, unrelated to what I know. I would have thought the same thing. Yeah. That's the first thing people think. I think a lot of people are just surprised like the mob is still around. People out here,
Starting point is 00:52:16 if you're from New York. You don't hear about it too much anymore. Jersey up there. You know, you hear about it every now and that book. It's fucking sick, dude. We were reading a story about old Joe Brooklyn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Earlier. Unrelated. Joey Brooks, they called him. Joe Brooks, yeah, getting pop for some waste management stuff. What murder? Best guy around. what a wild ass story man yeah man it's pretty crazy um and it's it's a bummer because like
Starting point is 00:52:42 night two so you know NBA season kicks off with thunder rockets double overtime banger last night wemby looks like the best player of all time dropping 40 on my mavs took terrible what are we doing fire nico um and then like all like the the the talking points for the you know your cold pizzas or whatever show. Coal pizza's not around. Hasn't been around for years. That's a 20-year-old show. You know, but it's like they're all coming in and expecting to talk about like,
Starting point is 00:53:12 oh, man, what a start for the NBA. And it's like, here's this. We can talk about this for a mold up. By the way, uh, huge scandal coming out. Billy, Billy Bats and the boys with rigged card games and Chauncey Billokes is involved. Fuck. Now we've got to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:53:28 It's crazy. It's wild, man. I'm going to make sure you're not on the take. I might be. You're not rigging podcasts, are you? I don't even know, wouldn't know how to do that. You, like, people are betting on, like, over under 60 minutes and you're just, like, delaying. I'm juicing our numbers.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Knowing you, actually, you're probably wanting to get out of here. That's true. That is me. That's his thing. He's always trying to get out of here. Yeah. What else? What else we got to talk about, Dylan?
Starting point is 00:53:53 It's a developing story, by the way. We're going to continue to track it. Just want people to know that. Randy, that's part of it. Chonzie's in big time trouble, man. Fed's got them. That sucks, dude. That's a piston's great.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Sure is. Hall of Famer. That's one of Will's kids. Will's childhood heroes. He's got a kid named Chauncey Billups. He does. He named his kid. Fritz Chauncey Billups to Freeze.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Chaunty to freeze is kind of a good name. KJ's in the chat asking about the NBA Cup standings. I'm really excited for when that happens again. Man, no one has thought about that in months. A good point, though, for KJ. I love the midseason tournament. it. Yeah, what does this mean? Are there cup implications? Who knows? I'm going to be rocking Fair Harbor all weekend. Yeah. I've got some of my car right now in case I need to
Starting point is 00:54:47 change because Fair Harbor is like the most comfortable. I haven't watched it. I actually just got out of a box that was in our office and I'm about to be Fair Harbored out. I don't know. I haven't said my weekend and fun yet, but I do have a lot going on. I have a crew neck from them that I'm just waiting to wear, waiting for this front to move in next week. The tailwind, Kernick, it's very dope. The jeans I've been wearing nonstop. Love the jeans. And we know about your flannel.
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Starting point is 00:56:25 have fun and let's go let's go let's let the guest start Let's let the guest go. I was about your weekend before you get out of here. Man, fly out this afternoon to Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Thank God it's actually not that cold this weekend. And, yeah, it's ESPNU 7 Central Saturday night. You know, if it's not on your primary screen, I don't know what time the horns play. So I think they're an afternoon kick, maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I think they are. All right. So after the Texas game, whatever your night game is, maybe throw us on the second screen. But North Dakota State, South Dakota State, the Dakota marker, it's the best rivalry in FC. It's one of the best. I mean, college game day's been there a bunch over the last, I don't know, 20 years. But yeah, you know, we don't always, you don't get to pick your games, right? So sometimes these are, you get some that you know aren't going to be competitive and whatever. This is the opposite. This is a really good thing. National champion usually comes out of one of these two teams. Correct. I don't have the stat memorize. I need to learn it before Saturday. They just dominate. Exactly. I mean, since they both joined FCS in 2004 and it's like, it's like 75% of the national champion.
Starting point is 00:57:31 since then have been one of these two teams. Nuts. Okay. All right. Bangor watch. I'll put it on my bangor watch list. Okay. I will.
Starting point is 00:57:39 If you need to sneak out, feel free to make a quick exit. Okay. I'll go. Go ahead. Birthday weekend. Doing a little just night in with Parks and Chelsea tonight. Nothing special. What's for dinner, though?
Starting point is 00:57:52 I don't know. She hadn't told me yet. Surprise? Surprise. Yeah. I like that. Tomorrow I might go step out and get a beer with some dudes. Dave can't make.
Starting point is 00:58:01 it that's okay there's nothing personal it's nothing personal he says um yeah might might do something might do something friday saturday going out of san marcus uh to my sister's house they're doing we're doing a little family birthday celebration down there scouting it out for tuesday scouting it out for tuesday go see about that deepy uh deepy shoot up gonna watch some ball yeah that's pretty much it man be low key be low key brandy i'll keep it quick i got uh I got not much going on this weekend. I think I'll carve pumpkins on Sunday. But I have issued a take, or at least a prediction, in the office that I will have the tree shelf done by Monday.
Starting point is 00:58:41 So that's just, that's, I'm going to finish it this weekend. I hadn't thought about that tree shelf in a while. So I'm probably going to go home and work on it today. But, yeah, it's going to be all finished. And it's going to be a pretty rainy weekend. So I think it's just, you know, stay indoors, maybe watch some Halloween stuff and just chill and relax. Okay. I mentioned I'm going to a friend's ranch out in Sonora so we'll be out West Texas way
Starting point is 00:59:06 and then we got to come back I'm going to leave early we got a T-ball game T-ball's life T-ball dad shit you know um grasshoppers got a big game big game got to bounce back strong dude grasshoppers that's us that's awesome uh Randy can we close it out can you play the Joe Flacco clip I just want to before I know it won't be new news next week and it's really non-news. It's just a funny clip. I just want to tell you probably this is so real. I know what this is. Yeah. Go sit at a restaurant by myself and realize that, man, that's pretty enjoyable to do. Um, you know, after there's not too many situations. I tell I tell people all the time. I mean, I used to see guys sitting at a bar by themselves or, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:50 just sitting by themselves eating and grabbing a little meal. And I'm like, man, I feel so bad for that guy. Like, you almost want to go join them. And now I realize like, That dude was in heaven. That's so true. So real, dude. That happens, you know, if, like, one of your team members that you're doing a game with comes in late or they leave early, they can get out Saturday night, you just find the best restaurant you can, go to the bar, have dinner. And I agree. When I, like, when I first started doing this, I was like, man, I hate eating by myself, whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Fast forward a few years. I'm like, he nailed it. I thought that was so good. By the way, he's getting better looking as he gets older. say he's very handsome yeah how old is he 42 he's in his 40s dude balled out last week look at that dude how about that man he could be you know 38 it looked fucking great this week by the way i would have said 38 he's 40 years so 40 he looked great last week dude he was just putting it on
Starting point is 01:00:45 a fucking dime man makes you wonder joe burrow that good hmm what a taste yeah i think i think he's still pretty i'm just saying it makes you wonder it does yeah uh yeah dude i mean one of my favorite things. I go into, well, like, Alyssa really likes Lupe Tortillas. See that one up in Westlake. We'll call on food and they're notorious like it takes forever. Yeah. So I'll just leave like immediately and just go sit at the bar and just eat chips, salsa and just, not I'm saying, it kind of sounds pathetic. I'll eat chips and salsa and drink. Just like Flaco said, that guy's in heaven. It's so good. I snuck away on a golf trip recently. I got away from the idiots I was with and just went and ate dinner by myself. I was Maloney. I was Maloney. I was Maloney.
Starting point is 01:01:25 for that, but Flacco, he gets it. He gets it. It's a ball, noer move, and definitely do it. Taylor, thank you for joining us. Where can we follow you? Where can we find you? Hey, Team McCarck 16 on Twitter and Instagram. Thank you guys for having me. This has been a ton of fun. That was awesome. We'd love to do it again. Yeah. If you guys get to the bottom of the list on the guest list, let me know. I'm always, you kind of brought it. You kind of brought it. Yeah, Dill was saying he's not going to bring it, but you did bring it. I was like, I don't know about this guy. I owe you golf. We don't really expect golf. We're going to play golf. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And yeah, thank you guys again. This was fun. Yeah. You demand. All right. Have a good week. We'll see you all for voicemails tomorrow. Bye.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Bye. Thank you.

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