Circling Back - No Laying Up's Tron Carter & DJ Piehowski

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

A Masters Week conversation with No Laying Up's Tron Carter and DJ Piehowski where we managed to barely talk about The Masters (or golf, really) at all. We talked Texas airports, The Oscars and Tár, played Stan Mute Cancel: Golf Conversation Edition, facial hair, the Gwyneth Paltrow case, James Beard Award nominations, The PGA Tour leaving Austin, The Chainsmokers, and so much more. Enjoy a free two-week trial on Patreon for additional weekly episodes: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast Watch all of our full episodes on our new YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/circlingback  Shop Washed Merch: www.washedmedia.shop  Support This Episode’s Sponsors Rhoback: www.rhoback.com (BACKER20 for 20% off) Sunday: www.getsunday.com/steam (20% off) Athletic Greens: www.athleticgreens.com/circling (FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D and 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/circling-back/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

all right we're back circling back podcast coming to you live from austin texas my name's will defries to my right to my right dylan chivery ladies and gentlemen hey will very happy to be here thanks for having me today uh question would you beta test a autonomous ride share program are you trying to make a joke about me being a beta or a driverless autonomous vehicle rideshare. Would you just get in? Are we there? Is the technology there? See, that's the thing, Dylan.

I don't fancy myself to be a scientist or an engineer of any sort. But as it currently stands in the world, I'm avoiding autonomous vehicles until they are no longer in beta testing. I only do things that are in alpha testing mode. Because I might take one today. That's fine. Yeah, they have been deployed in Austin, and I'm going to hop in one and see what happens. Okay. Can you report back on Wednesday?

Yeah, I will. If you're with us? If I'm still with us, yes, I will happily talk about it. How's Dylan Chivry doing today? Good. Had a nice little weekend, I will happily talk about it. How's Dylan Chivry doing today? Good. I had a nice little weekend, actually. It was good stuff. I'm sure we'll talk about it here in a minute, but it was a good weekend.

I'm a little tired. I kind of went hard. Yeah. Dude, I kind of went hard, too. Yeah. We have a skeleton crew in the WASH Media offices today. We recognize this company right now. David Ruff is famously out for the day as he went to the Heiress Tour last night.

And if anybody has been to Taylor Swift's tour this year, you know that if you have a three-hour drive home after the concert, you're not doing that after the show. The three-hour set, the three-hour concert. Does she have an opener? Probably not. Yeah, she does. She does? Yeah, different openers. It's quite an event.

What's more impressive is that I'm 36 at this point. Not very. That is impressive. Not like super athletic, I wouldn't say. Not a NARP, but like not super athletic. No, not a NARP. Everyone's, no. No one calls me that.

And I mean, I was gassed after standing there for three hours, you know, singing and dancing along with her. Taylor seemed unfazed. She's built different. she still got it like it wasn't like she was backstage just like hanging out she was just pumping out hits non-stop damn so yeah d-man d-man's probably he's probably icing those feet this morning you had 44 songs you probably don't have like in order for it to end at a decent hour you probably there's no like wasted time in between songs you just go from one to the next correct correct it was once i realized that she had not like not appeared to be out of breath for like almost the entire show i was like

okay she's a performer i get it i get it good for her man nope no pics of dave's fit yet yeah you concerned no no but i was concerned about breaking my own fit for taylor swift so i probably did too i didn't really care when are you going to see her um i'm not going to see her if a ticket fell in my lap i would probably go but i'm not i'm not a big concert guy you know that. Dude, you only go to jam bands now. Yeah. If Bob Weir is not playing, if he's not up there shredding, then why would I go? All right. So do you want to come to San Francisco with me this summer?

I'm now spotting Bob Weir and just Dead & Co shirts out in the wild now. They're hard to miss. Once you know what they look like. Yeah, they're everywhere. the wild now. They're hard to miss. Once you know what they look like. Yeah, they're everywhere. Now I do. They're everywhere. One of my guys is right there. Well, I've officially become insufferable because I bought a record player this weekend.

More on that when it arrives. What are you going to spin on it? Dude, I think I might just spin some ones and twos. No, that's not how that works. Yeah. Wicca, wicca. No. Yeah, I went online last night.

I got some old vinyls. I got Crazy Town. You familiar with their game? Come my lady, come, come my lady. Be my butterfly. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

I really just want to start with the classics. That's a classic? I thought Crazy Town was a good place to start with the classics so i thought i thought crazy town was a good place to start i can't tell if you're pulling my leg or not we got a big week of content yeah today's a weird episode by the way but a dope one yeah today we got a little special thing going on uh last week we had the absolute pleasure of recording with our good friends over at uh nlu no No Laying Up. They have a golf vertical that's quite successful these days. And we had DJ and Tron on of the NLU lineup.

Talked to very little golf. That was the intent. Yeah. Yeah. If there's one thing we're good at, it's talking to people about things that they are not experts in. And I think we did that very well with them. I'm very happy about this. So yeah, after we do some of our normal episode stuff for a Monday, we're going to kick you into that hour and just let it ride for a while. Let's get some official business out of the way before we do that, though.

First and foremost, our free 14-day trial is still going on for new patrons. If you do sign up for that, you get free access to both Tuesday and Thursday episodes and every single episode we've ever recorded. We've got a whole backlog there of like, I don't know, got to be hundreds and hundreds of episodes at this point. We haven't sniffed a thousand. We have gone over the 500 episode mark for circling back though. We have? Yeah yeah a lot of people say that 500 episodes um of your latest podcast venture is where you finally hit your stride yeah the loading phase for us was the first 500 i feel like our last five cents then have been pretty good though so

it's gonna finally start getting good yeah yeah uh tomorrow i'm not sure if we're doing exactly five minutes or touching based as we have not spoken to Dave today, but I'm pushing for touching base. I think we got some stuff to talk about. I think we might have some stuff a little close to home to talk about, if I'm being honest. I think we should. Should we give a little tease? I mean, we can. It's pretty unpleasant and kind of scary,

but a lot of dead bodies are turning up in Lady Bird Lake right by Rainy Street. And if you go on Twitter and you type in Serial Killer Austin, there are more tweets than I ever anticipated there being. Hey, why isn't mainstream media covering this? You mean lamestream media?

Mm-hmm. Should we go out, should we do Dude Was Signed at the Austin Statesman today? Tell us about the serial killer? Maybe so. We got a pretty free afternoon

with so many people in the office meeting. We do. Like, I might as well, let's just go do Dude Was Signed content all day. How about it? Tell us about the serial killer. Maybe so. We got a pretty free afternoon with so many people in the office meeting. Let's just go do dude with sign content all day. How about it? We also got listener voicemails on Thursday. If you are a Love Island fan, welcome.

We are officially your people. We had a lot of fun covering Love Island for the last season. We will definitely be covering it in the future. If you are a Love Island person, go check out our episodes. We had an absolute blast doing it. Now that those are over, I think that's going to open us up a little bit for a little more Coffee Friday action. I do think we need to squeeze in a tea time and reward ourselves for doing such a good job on our Friday episodes of Love Island. I think we're due for a Friday tea time sometime soon. I'm all about that. My back has finally recovered from the last time

we played golf. Oh, that's good. I'm ready to fuck it up again i still feel like there might there might be a little responsibility that your workouts have to do with your back but you can blame golf all you want next time we go out there instead of hitting the range i'm just going to stretch for half an hour i think that's absolutely what you should be doing regardless yeah like we're old dude no yeah i yeah for sure i don't want to ruin my uh weekend and fun, but because I'm about to talk about the Wash Media shop, I feel like I need to. I wore my Too Much Dip hat, my bar hat,

on the golf course on Saturday. I got compliments. Did you? I got one, two, three compliments on my hat. That's a cool hat. Oh, where did you get that hat from? I got stopped by a random stranger at the WGC. He asked me where I got my washed hat.

It just says, it's the gray one. Yeah. The gray. Yeah, dog. What is it called? What do you call this fit? I don't know. It's a tech material kind.

Just like a sports hat. It's a fucking hat. It's a fucking golf hat, dude. It's a fucking hat. And he goes, where'd you get that hat? I said, believe it or not, we make this hat. And I told him the web address, washedmedia.shop. Yeah, I didn't know if you were going to parlay that into actually saying the web address,

but thank you for doing that. Washedmedia.shop. So hopefully he copped. You see they're sending some people toward the moon? You seen this news? Toward the moon or on the moon well so you tell me you're the space guy i should be asking you this yeah three americans and one canadian will crew nasa's artemis 2 mission the first humans to fly toward the moon in 50 years why don't we just go to the fucking moon they're gonna slingshot around the moon and they come back home they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna get a peek at it close a close one but they're not gonna land on it are they actually gonna go around the moon

i don't know they're gonna go to the dark side of the moon i just know that like because of the gravity of the moon you can like slingshot around it, and then it'll whip you back toward Earth. That's fact? Pretty sure. Why do they call it slingshotting instead of boomeranging if you're going flipping back? There might be a better term for it. Just saying. Yeah.

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saturday and her birthday dinner with the little fam was on friday damn i always put in reverse order there but friday we went to home slice so she's going full birthday diva at an early age yeah yeah she gets it from her mom it went to april 1 and she was like birth month let's go girls yeah uh i i'm glad dave's not here because i would have to admit that i i played my zah card twice last week well i don't like being called a narp but i will be a narc i'll probably be telling dave this at some point you've been eating a lot of pizza lately i if I'm being honest. Yeah. We had a great time at Home Slice.

The food is getting better there, if it feels that way. It's so good. Saturday birthday party. We went out to Lil' Bae's favorite park. Had some of her best friends out there. Lincoln. Had some family. Not Lincoln Park. No.

And she had a great time. I was operating the pinata i was pinata guy making sure the kids didn't get hit over the head with the very real bat we had out there so that was a lot of pressure on me and i thought you were just gonna be the first person to go hit the pinata and you just absolutely pissed on no no we didn't we didn't do the thing where we we like pullied it up and down you know we did it was just sitting there because they were like they're like six years old yeah um but kids and pinatas like we use we use little bay's very real bat like i said and so i had to make sure no kids got hit in the face and no one did so i did my job you didn't get

like smoked in the nuts or anything no fritz kicked me in the nuts this weekend told sally it's the hardest i've been hitting the nuts in easily easily 15 years in the nuts he didn't mean to he threw his legs down while he was sitting on my lap and smoked me in the right nut i'm not dealing i'm not kidding i haven't felt like this since high school you could feel it like up in your gut oh dude i felt it and i felt it for three hours after. For three hours after, I was just like, oh. Kids, man. Yeah. Sally asked what I was doing in high school to get kicked in the nuts so hard.

And I had to just explain to her that something you do in high school with your friends is you just punch each other in the nuts. Yeah. Yeah, we're simple creatures. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing saturday night we uh we went bae and i went to a i don't want to call it a shower but it was like a uh because there were no gifts and it was like i'm going to a wedding next month in california and this was like a an austin like pre-wedding party cocktail party and it was great so much fun a house in our neighborhood so we we drove like

one minute to get there good food good people drinks were flowing it was awesome didn't walk no we were dressed too nicely to walk it would it would have been a healthy uh 15 minute walk we're officially in the territory in austin that makes you ask the question like okay first can we walk yes or no and then number two is if i walk will i be sweating in the clothes that i'm wearing to this event right now i was wearing jeans and a button down like i didn't want to i didn't want to walk you don't want to could have you don't want to be pitting out you don't want to have like a line of back sweat when you show up to the party they had high high heels on. It was a whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. And yesterday, we went to New Place Uptown Sports Club on East Austin.

I hate to say, I don't want people to swarm this place. Fantastic. Really into it. Aaron Franklin of Franklin's Barbecue. He's behind it. So that explains why the food is good. I'd like to go. Austin, every new place in Austin gets so overrun with people when it first opens

that I just have a complete aversion to go into these places. We walked right in and sat down. Okay. That's good to hear. Yeah. That's good to hear. They could only been open for like two days.

Service wasn't great yet, but it just opened. You give them a pass on that. That Flo's to hear. I think it had only been open for like two days. Service wasn't great yet, but it just opened. You give them a pass on that. Like that Flo's wine bar near the crib. You waiting for it to thin out? Dude, it's constant people. Yeah. It's constant.

Maybe we need to get in the restaurant business. Some little outfit. No, I don't think I'm built for that. I just wanted to say outfit. Yeah. We've been trying to say outfit more around the the office these days i i on saturday when i had to answer the question what do you do for a living i should have said i had to get this media out yeah i got this little media outfit we just kind of do like podcasting some social stuff yeah anyway what about your weekend dude you know

your boy went crazy this weekend no i don't tell us we had uh we had a dinner on friday night uh one of our friends joined us at the dinner. So it was just me, Sally, and our friend. And yeah, we just mashed that. I mashed that muscle button, dog. Prince Edward Island style. I don't like muscles, man. So I'll be honest.

I'll be honest. I'm not a big muscle guy. But at the time, it sounded good. I regretted my order. I shouldn't have gotten muscles they're too uh snaily they're too dense for me too chewy yeah yeah yeah i regretted it like completely um and so you know after drinking an entire bottle of orange wine and eating a bunch of muscles i i naturally just had to go to bed um from that point on my weekend was just i was a wild boy woke up saturday morning

obviously took fritz to like a super lit easter egg hunt a super lit easter egg hunt wait isn't easter next weekend yeah i don't know why the hunt was this weekend it wasn't just y'all i saw a lot of people doing it this weekend i was really That's because it was right down the street from your place. And there was a ton of people. Oh, really? Yes. And yeah, the kid hates Easter egg hunts. Just not into it.

Doesn't understand the concept of it. And so that's fine. After that, I went to Lions' famous municipal golf course. I tried to give Dylan a nod. I did use him as our first alternate when someone dropped out. I appreciated that. Unfortunately, I had – well, not unfortunately, but I had the birthday party to go to. I deserve friend of the year award. The person that tried to bow out of golf, they tried to bow out because they had a babysitter conflict.

And what did I do? I hit the ground running and I got that person a babysitter. I was like, no, we're not skipping this because you have one kid that you're responsible for for a couple hours. We're getting you out of this. We're going to go play golf my man um and so yeah had a couple frozens on the course parlayed that into a matzah rancho dinner where shrimp fajitas were on the menu you know i had to sizzle shrimp style then i went home and passed out before 8 p.m great day we put fritz down and i just went

straight to bed slept like a rock for 11 hours fucking hey i don't know what's wrong i've been sleeping so hard lately we got a new mattress last week and i think it's i think it's paying dividends damn and yeah yesterday was just a lazy hungover sunday after drinking too many frozens and hanging out all saturday Got to watch Manchester United get absolutely smoked. Sorry, man. Got to see my LSU Tigers, though, take down the Natty. You know what it is. That's what we do.

Oh, I didn't know you were an LSU guy now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think – How do you feel about all the disrespect going on in that game that people are talking about? Man. You're a big Kim Mulkey guy. Not a big Kim Mulkey guy. in that game that people are talking about. Man. You're a big Kim Mulkey guy.

Not a big Kim Mulkey guy. We have some differences in life. You know, Dylan, it's funny you ask that. I just think, I think that, you know, doing it as the clock's winding down to win the national championship doesn't seem like the time and place to do it. But I'm pretty competitive and I can turn into an asshole

when things really start getting nasty out there on the gridiron. So I can't say that i wouldn't have done the same thing because i'm trash i thought it was i thought it was a little overboard and the people comparing the two i thought that they were a little different uh but at the same time she backed it up wow you actually gave a legitimate answer to that i was just i got way too into it on twitter yesterday did you but i'm kind of conflicted over it kind of conflicted over it yeah you know as someone who doesn't handle shit talk very well um i would not have liked to have been on the receiving end of said shit talk but

whatever her that caitlin girl she handled it uh she handled it better than i would have i think i would have same i think i would have started a fight as the as the clock was winding down i think i would have been throwing punches yeah if you're pointing at your hand for the ring and i'm walking off the court after like probably the most devastating loss of my career like i'm probably going to try to ruin your championship celebration by throwing a punch at you yeah that being, I think she loses that fight. Yeah, that's tough. Hey. Anyway, is it time for the NLU boys to tap in? I think it is.

If you're looking for timestamps for this episode, I have news for you. We just simply don't have any. This was an absolute wild card episode. Dylan did have to leave halfway through. So if you wonder why he just goes silent at one point, that's what happened. Yeah, I had to go meet my niece. I had to beat traffic out of town. I go pick up Zaw, that's what happened. Yeah, I had to go meet my niece. I had to beat traffic out of town. I go pick up Zaw, the whole situation. So yeah, I had to dip out.

Sorry about that. That's okay. But there were a lot of cooks were in the kitchen already. So it wasn't a big deal. I also have a theory that like, so we didn't really have a preset time for what we were going to do. And so after like, you know, 40 minutes, I think Dave and I were like, all right, well, we weren't planning on doing an entire episode.

So let's wrap this up. And I almost feel like DJ and Tron were doing a bit with us by trying to keep us on. And I finally was like, you know what? I'm going to sit here as long as they're willing to sit here. I'm going to wait this out. Enjoy. I'd like to start this podcast off by reading a headline from the Daily Star. You guys familiar with this? Yeah. I do this from time to time. He's getting worse.

Doctor says King Charles' sausage fingers have got worse as new pics show red digits. Oh, worse because they look like sausages. Worse, yeah. It's the play on the sausage. What's the deal with those things? I don't know. Let's ask our guests, Tron and DJ from No Laying Up. Hey, guys.

Thrilled to be here. That's a banger of an intro there, David. Greetings. Can we see each of your hands, please, to make sure that we don't have any sausage fingers on the pod? They're not getting better. I don't know if they're getting worse but they're definitely not getting better as age new new pics show red digits those are pretty regular looking fingers on you boys thanks

man yeah so what's uh what's going on over there you guys are in separate parts of the country i always forget that but how's everything going? We were together yesterday. We were in rural Alabama, Huntsville to be exact, just outside of Huntsville. You're always keeping tabs on the space program out there. Oh, yeah, Mike's town. Space Force, seemingly the headquarters for the military industrial complex. Isn't that also where our friends, the Trash Pandas, are located? I think they're also in Huntsville.

Rocket City. Isn't that the nickname of Huntsville? Correct. Okay. It was kind of nice, actually. I was telling Sean, the pilot gave us a whole rundown on the whole aerospace history of Huntsville

before we took off. His dad worked on the Gemini rockets. It was just a whole, kind of a dinner and a show. It was great. I mean, Dylan's pretty into space. You guys see this James Webb telescope that's been going on lately? It's very interesting. Check out this

Jimmy Webb stuff. It's crazy. Yeah. Wild. Did you see the super massive black hole they found? Did I see the super massive black hole? Come on, man. Did you actually? You looked like a guy who didn't see the massive black hole they found. But now you're trying to pretend that you saw the massive black hole. Come on, man. Did you actually? Yeah, I saw the black hole. You looked like a guy who didn't see the massive black hole they found. I saw the massive black hole. But now you're trying to pretend that you saw the massive black hole that they found.

It just found like a... Sorry, sorry. Ultra massive black hole. Super massive black hole. I think it was a used song. 33 billion times the mass of the sun. How do they know? That feels big.

I mean... That's not nothing. Yeah. How big is the scale that you have to get in order to figure that out? I don't understand how they do it with the technology. Maybe they got a free scale from stamps.com using promo code circling back. They're back as a sponsor. I don't think that's added value for those of y'all in the biz.

Anyway, would y'all fly? Sensitive subject. I flew Delta because I was going through Atlanta yesterday. DJ flew United. I flew United. Everyone was asking where Tron was, but we made it through. Okay. Wow.

Okay. Where do we stand on Southwest? Trash. Oh, what? I don't know if I'll be willing to go that quite that far it feels a little like riding the bus i i could do without the clever you know the songs when you land and and the the cleverness of the flight attendants the flight attendants are way way too chipper when it comes to etiquette in terms of saving seats for people where do y'all stand are you allowed to save a

seat for your significant other who didn't upgrade their boarding position? Or do you need to let them sit somewhere else? I feel like you could save a middle seat maybe. But I don't know that I – I don't think you can save a window or an aisle. Are people trying to sit in an aisle and then save a window and then leave the middle seat open? Is that a thing? If you're saving – My wife probably is. If you're saving a seat for somebody, you don't just take the middle and leave the aisle open because someone's going to take that, right?

Of course. You sit in the aisle and just hope that no one wants to middle it next to you. Yeah, I think the end goal by saving the middle or covering the middle is hoping that if the flight is not full, you will have one of the rare seats that is open next to you. Again, I'm abstaining. I think this is – I fly real airlines. guys you know i think americans coming in heavy hot and heavy to uh austin no which is a shame for you guys no no worst man they stink no i'll be in protest i'll be in protest what is y'all's favorite Texas airport? God, it's got to be Love Field for me, I feel like.

Is it? Good. Yeah, I would say Love. Although I think Houston is underrated. New Houston with the big high ceilings. We've never seen ceilings so high, TC. Provided you're out of the right concourse there. The OTG, all the self-checkout kiosks are a bit of a problem there, though. Who's the worst traveler in the NLU crew?

Is there anyone that just straight up doesn't have pre-check or is just really a thorn in everyone's side while you guys are just breezing through security? I mean, DJ outed himself yesterday. I feel like I've got a pretty good duct tape together situation. I've got Clear and I've got some Premier access with United. If I was coming out of Jacksonville,

I was always flying United and I would always just go through the premium security line and I just never had to worry about it. Sometimes you'll catch a Huntsville and a regional airport like that where all of a sudden I'm like I gotta tell you I don't have pre-check they don't have clear here

and I just wear it it's no big deal took an extra did they want to look at the 9 volt battery in my shotgun microphone yeah but that was fine we were there plenty early no big deal I don't think I was a drain on Tron's experience no you certainly weren't do you guys remember back in the day?

I think everybody else is pretty solid, though. This has nothing to do with anything, but do you remember back in the 1995 NFL season when Barry Switzer got caught trying to bring a gun through airport security? They won the Super Bowl that year. We've been there. Everyone's been there.

It's so relatable, AF. Glass houses. Glass houses, glass houses, you know, Donald Glover had to go through that in season one of Atlanta. Yeah. He did what you're supposed to do. He passed it off onto someone else.

He got them in trouble. How do you guys feel about the, uh, the, so we did a big airports pod, had a few people from Austin getting on us. Cause I was talking shit about the auxiliary terminal in austin where where i think allegiant and a couple of the other bootleg airlines fly out of

you know jv's butt i've been flying out of that airport since uh it was built and i still have never seen that little uh terminal dave dave that's the only one he uses yeah they were calling me they were calling me billy budget because uh, yeah, that's exclusively where I fly out as of late. Turns out it's very nice. It's low. You don't get the anxiety because there's no security line or anything. Is it like flying through a small town? Is that what it feels like?

Smaller than a small town, I would say. Yeah, it's tiny. But, yeah, and if you don't check your ticket, there's a lot of people who miss flights because they don't realize it's a whole separate deal. And why did the airport decide that only the broke boy airlines use that terminal and not the big boy ones? I think it's just classism, the elites, things of that nature. Yeah, I think there's some greater questions surrounding the topic that you're trying to dive into right now. We can go there.

I don't want to go there. Do you want to get macro? I hear it's really easy to get a margarita at that second location, though. It is. I hear everything else is... I mean, the other airport, you go to Taco Deli, you're waiting in a 20-minute line for a breakfast taco that wasn't even fresh made. It's true. It's all facts.

There's a food truck over there, right? There is a food truck right outside and you get to do the cool walk up to the plane thing which that's what makes you feel like it's like you're flying private until you get onto the plane and then you're like oh there's other passengers yeah and it's and i'm on a shitty regional aircraft there's no wi-fi are the beetles the first people you think of when flying private? No, just I think maybe the picture of them landing at JFK, you know, coming out of the airplane and waving to everybody.

You could also go, maybe Nixon would be another one in that camp. I've always enjoyed the, and I'm not just saying this because you guys are famously, you know, part of a golf company, but I've always enjoyed the photo of Arnie rolling off the plane with his clubs over his shoulder massive flex one of the biggest flexes of all time yeah he flew himself too if i'm not i was gonna say how about flying yourself

and then just going and beating people in golf tournaments swag you couldn't do that no one's doing that morgan hoffman i guess was doing that but he wasn't really winning a lot i couldn't do either mcneely's trying to do that is he wasn't really winning a lot. I couldn't do either one of those. Matt McNeely's trying to do that. Is he? He's not winning a lot either. Is Harrison Ford still flying a bunch? I feel like they may have took the keys away after the crash. That was a golf story.

I think he crashed on a golf course. Was it like Rancho Park or somewhere in LA, right? Yeah. Is it Travolta who has the entire runway at his crib? There's a lot going on. Yeah, we could do an entire series on Travolta. Have you guys talked about the kind of Travolta-sance that's going on recently?

Seems like he's popping up a lot more. I haven't seen him in like... Travolta-sance. I feel like people haven't seen him in like 15 years, and all of a sudden he's at the Oscars. He's in these commercials with the guys from Scrubs for some reason. Oh, that's right.

He's too bald. Did he do a Super Bowl? Yeah, he's so bald. No one's ever been so bald. It was jarring on the Super Bowl. It was like, oh, I didn't know you had it like that these days. You know what was the best four words uttered at the Oscars was by Travolta? It was the incomparable Lenny Kravitz.

I thought it was pretty great. Oh, I thought you were going to say wickedly talented. How were the Oscars? Just as a show. Pretty blah. If I'm being honest, I think everyone was on edge with the big slap

from last year. A lot of feel-good stories. Everybody was feeling really good about everything, everywhere, all at once, which we can get into it if you guys want. Obviously, kind of a disgrace movie, I thought. Everybody won, and there was a lot of fun Instagrams.

Oh, God, it's this guy and Harrison Ford, and they're back together. Isn't this great? Jamie Lee Curtis, don't we all love her? There's a lot of that stuff. Everybody felt good, but it was kind of of fake juice tc as you would say eat that guys can we um can we do something that's uh golf adjacent right quick we like to do a thing called stand mute cancel i don't know if you're familiar with that product but um it's a staple here of washed media and i would like to do a stand mute cancel with y'all um golf controversy edition or golf conversation edition

which one of these because like these don't probably beat y'all down to some extent because you talk about it often but stand mute cancel the overall live debate, rolling back the golf ball and world golf ranking. DJ, you want to lead it off? Yeah. So how do you, you know, it's been a while since I've interacted with the product. You just lay them all out at once or I got to go one at a time here.

Your favorite, you're going to stand your favorite thing to discuss. Mute your second favorite. And then of course you cancel the one that you never want to discuss again. Worse. I think I will, I will stand just because I,

I hate it and it makes me feel like I'm poisoning myself, but I just can't get enough. The live golf conversation. I think just let's talk about it at all, all hours of the, all hours of the day. Can't talk about it enough. I'm going the same direction. I'm going

standard just because I feel like it's gotten so stupid and this thing feels like it's so close to imploding. I'm not sure if you guys saw the graphics that some of these teams, Team Smash. Now, now, now. Adobe does not have spell check. They don't have spell check. we've all been there

all sorts of copyright infringements uh on disney properties which i'm sure you know the kingdom i'm sure they're a shareholder in disney as well though but like it's getting so stupid and so off the rails you've never taken an uber what about china uh it's you know it's it's getting back to being fun again yeah like like this this week in in orlando at orange county national that wasn't even good enough to to host pga tour q school uh it's gonna be like bleak and dystopian as fuck it's gonna be great the crooked cat course i think is hosting at orange National, which should be really good. I think after that,

my last two options are mute and cancel, I believe you said. Yep. I'm going to mute the distance rollback. Very important conversation, but I've had a bit of enough. And I'm going to cancel the OWGR conversation. A bit tied in with the live conversation, but I think it, I've, I've had a bit of enough and I'm going to cancel the OWGR conversation a bit tied in with the live conversation, but I think it's, you know, it's just getting to a point where it's, it's so procedural and kind of boring and mathematical and kind of blah that I'm good to take that one away.

I'm right there with you. I kind of self muted the, the rollback conversation. Anyway, I went out of the country when all this happened. Didn't have to talk about it for two weeks and turned off my phone. I came back and I was like, hey guys, did anything happen the last couple weeks? You were in Australia. I feel like many people have already self-rollbacked. I feel like

all the enlightened golfers are down there. Exactly. The OWGR thing is just procedural schlock it's it's it's it's like gerrymandering you know it's like voting district stuff like nobody wants to talk about it it's important but nobody wants to talk about it um i do want to talk succession though tc are you are you succession guy as well i am i have not started i've not watched uh the season premiere as of yet uh i'm kind of a i like to get two or three in the tank before i before i start it so not just not

to spoil anything but uh the kids are trying to get a hold of the company come on man sorry really i just wanted to set the table for the rest of the season in this episode, you know? Okay. Yeah. I mean, no spoilers, though, guys. Please, no spoilers. Well, it's going to be hard to have this conversation without spoilies, David. They're not going to believe, or TC's not going to believe what Tom does. Is Skarsgård too hot to be in the role that he's in?

That's what a lot of people are asking. I've been thinking that myself. Was he in Pretty Little Lies? I don't know. What was that show called? Big Little little lies little lies you watch pretty little liars though didn't you i actually know you watch scream queens scream queens is a great show yeah of course i did glenn powell's glenn powell his his debut hilarious in that show actually what's going on with sydney sweeney and glenn powell but you want to talk about that we can pivot real

quick no we don't have to. I just want to put it out there. I think they're just filming a rom-com together. I don't know. They're just filming, huh? I don't know. Have your overalls come in from Sidney Sweeney's workwear line yet? Dude, the collabo everybody was waiting on,

Ford and Sidney Sweeney dropping that workwear. And Dickies. Oh, man. The thing is, if I was in high school still listening to Blink-182, I would 100 100 have bought like a hat from that drop you got a favorite uh favorite blink 182 album will oh dude ranch that's for sure dude ranch is the only one that i can listen to and actually like like i'll peloton to it or at least when i when i had a membership at peloton i would peloton to it

which is great because it's like an 18-minute Peloton ride. Yeah. Yeah, I like no effects albums because they're like 23 minutes long. Yeah. You're going to Blink, right? Yeah. So we're going to Blink this summer, I guess it is?

I think it's around our wives' birthdays. Right. Yes, it was a birthday. Nothing like giving your wife the birthday present of going to a concert of your favorite band from growing up. Yeah, and then she has the pleasure of watching me try to go in the pit during Turnstile, the opening act, and just getting my shit kicked in.

I don't know what would be better, a video of you getting kicked out of the concert for trying to hop a fence to go to Turnstile mosh pit, or a video from a backer in the mosh pit of you just moshing with people it's the ladder for sure we can make that happen would you go limp like portnoy if you got hauled out of a moody center i'd go limp yet ai trump ai trump getting arrested what's the venue situation down there in austin these days oh about as corporate as you can get i mean it's nice the new the new frank irwin center essentially so it's the new basketball

arena and uh yeah it's a nice thing but like i mean a hazy ipa will cost you 21 in the in the shop yeah they also have an option to tip and you check yourself out that's tough wait i point you to the the trap draw podcast if they'd like to hear a much longer conversation on the state of tipping in our world with a renowned journalist from the atlantic also that was that was a great conversation john oh we we've gone off on that ourselves we did a whole segment on it i think i think there's a silent majority out there talking about this yeah you know i was thinking dave when you're talking about this uh the mosh pit scene to to get it back it might be a bit like that i think it's uh the kendall's birthday episode when shiv kind of tweaks out and is just just really letting it fly

out the middle of the dance floor i think you could like a gorilla style video of of dave doing that i think might be that might be the answer i going to be down there in khakis and a polo and some boat shoes or something. I'm just going to be letting it rip. You could have a really good Halloween costume as Logan. Or I'm sorry, as... Shiv? No.

Kendall doing the rap. I feel like you could actually pull that off. You could get the L to the OG jersey and everything. That's a pretty good one. Are you saying I kind of resemble. You could get the L to the OG jersey and everything. That's a pretty good one. Are you saying I kind of resemble? You could be honest. I'm looking at you. No, not really.

He's fine looking. I'll ditch this. The stash is going away at some point. That's a mistake. I know. How long has the stash been going continuously? It'll come right back. Dude, I think three years.

No. See, at least two no it's still nuts yeah still nuts that's fair how often do you trim it um i'm i'm grooming it daily um early on if you you know if you guys have been following this journey early on you'll know i kind of rocked the modified handlebar. That was good. Just because I didn't know what I was doing. And Dylan, like one day, and I'm glad he did this, was like, I'm doing the handlebars there. You're doing Fu Man. Fu Man.

You've got a Fu Man shoe working. And I was like, yeah, I guess I do. I don't really know what vibe I'm giving off right now. So I trimmed it up, and in my head, this is like when I do it shorter, it's a Navy SEAL BUDS instructor, like arms crossed, rocking real short shorts with just a six dash, just like yelling at pledges. You went from like NASCAR observer to like highway patrolman. Yeah, that too.

Yeah, and it looks good. Constable. Yeah. Constable Roth. yeah that too yeah it looks good constable yeah constable raw so what's my grandpa on my mom's so my mom's dad he lived till he was like 87 my mom uh never once saw him without a mustache in her entire life for 60 plus years how old's your son dave maybe maybe you just keep that streak going exactly he's just over he's a two two years couple months makes you think think about what you're throwing away man yeah can't get can't start that streak over again no because what's going to happen is i will shave it and i'll shave it in front of him just so he doesn't freak out and he realizes like i'm the same person and then i'm just going to let i'm going to happen is I will shave it, and I'll shave it in front of him just so he doesn't freak out and he realizes, like, I'm the same person.

And then I'm just going to let – I'm going to look at myself in the mirror and be like, oh, my God, you're fucking ugly. And I'm just going to grow it back. And Alyssa's going to be like, what was the point of even shaving it? I'm like, I don't know. Just remember what's under there. I would shave at Grand X and walk into the office on Monday, and everybody would look at me and just be like, you look like shit right now. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not everybody said that. I'd get heckled on the way to my desk.

That happened to me. I shaved my beard for the first time in a couple years, and Freddy, my older son, saw me for the first time without a beard, and he started crying. Yeah, I remember my dad, he had a mustache growing up when I was growing up, and he shaved it for the first time when I was 14,

and it took me a long time to get used to it. It was jarring. See, that's the thing. I kind of want to switch things up. I've had this beard for four straight years at this point, and I kind of want to get rid of it for a little bit and hit the reset button. But I don't want to do the whole shave in front of my son thing. Yeah, you've got a lot to shave.

Well, it's kind of weird just like shaving with your son sitting there watching you it kind of feels a little like there will be bloody or something yeah it's a good comp yeah it's your son and your partner yeah everyone says like will you're so daniel day lewis when you have a mustache like it's crazy you do have major you've got kind of the billy mays uh style beard going to where i feel like if you shaved it it would it would be back you know pretty pretty thick within two or three days i can i can go from completely clean shaven to having a beard in three weeks it takes me exactly three weeks it's like you and uh ryan day actually how do i do it football coach i mean there's that going on too but like it's kind of a ryan day billy mays type beard

rest in peace my full beard is still growing out i'm waiting on it it's been about i don't know why you didn't just go mustache i thought you looked really cool with a mustache i thought it looked cool as shit too but my wife does not so and you know that always wins out so i i can't be mustache guy your wife threw out every single piece of clothing that you owe us too. Not every piece, but about 60% of my clothing she did throw out. Yes, that is true. Were you a willing participant in that or was that just... For sure. We had been dating for a few months and we went out one night and we went back to my house and she's like, you know what? I'm doing it. I was like, what are you doing? And she went in my closet and about five minutes later and there was a pile of clothes

about five feet high in the middle of my closet she said we're getting rid of all of this and I said the fuck we are and we ended up getting rid of all of it it might as minus about two items that I was like this I got it I got this is like nostalgic I got a hang on to this for you know sentimental purposes she said okay but yeah she got rid of a lot of my stuff. Like a 2003 Roundup tee? No. No, stop.

Actually, you know what? There may have been a frat tee or two in there. We should frame one of your old frat tees and put it up in the office. I think they're all gone by this point. There's an old Kyle Mega t-shirt that she threw away. There's probably some girls out there that have some Shaq shirts

from back in the day and they're like, this was Dorn's shirt. Gotta be a few thousand. I don't know why they have husky voices when they say it. They smoke a lot.

They smoke cigs. This is Dorn's shirt. Yeah, Kyle's had some cool chicks though. Yeah. Our next partner has a product that we use

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about necessarily on the pod, but we need a new show. Obviously, Succession's got our Sunday night, but open to anything. Oh, man. Deej, this is more your alley than mine. I don't watch a whole lot of TV. I kind of oscillate between... I'll kind of do a TV year and then a deep in the movies year. You're kind of catching me in a movies year right now,

so I'm not watching a lot of shows. I watch a lot of major league baseball so big day for me today that'll be fun happy opening day to you man yeah thanks i don't know if you've watched that one yet um randy was trying to get me on to love is blind yeah it's the houston season a lot of people talking down here i've dabbled i couldn't get into it yeah there was one particular character that was so off-putting that it turned me off the whole show. He was so awful. His name is Shane.

Shane Dog, dude. Shane. The worst. He was a great TV character, though. It makes me want to puke. I started watching the show Shrinking the other day. That's good. Callie said it's fun.

I've heard really good things. Yeah, yeah. Well, Callie's also an intern who's like 21 years old, whereas the main character of the show is a guy about my age whose wife passes away and he completely derails. And so I think I might relate to in a different way than our intern. Hey, he's getting it back together, though, man. Okay. You watch it. I had to turn it off halfway through the first episode because I was like, man, this feels a little familiar.

Okay. My wife's not dead, but I feel like I'd derail if that happened. Okay, yeah. Your wife, I was like, did something happen? No, no. I would have told you for sure if she died. That's good news. No, no.

I'm glad she's still with us. The derail for me is always in play, so that is relatable. Doesn't even have to be something major. Just kind of just my wheels will fly off at any moment. Damn. You are that unhinged. Sometimes Dave just doesn't show up to the studio to record and we have to go find him in austin yeah it's a game i like to play he's usually passed out in the steam room at lifetime i'm usually down at zilker uh

coming off an ayahuasca retreat speaking of uh you know just derailing at any time and and uh you know kind of disappearing you guys watch the bear not. It's been a couple years now, or a year and a half or so, but that was excellent. Highest recommendation. I feel like a lot of them are going to be kind of a little old now, but The Bear was great.

Did you watch Tar? No. Oh. God, I want to talk about Tar. What is Tar? Is that an Oscar movie? It's a movie, right? Yeah, hell yeah, man.

Who's the Best Picture nominee? Cate Blanchett. I don't know. Tell me who's just thrown nastier stuff than Cate Blanchett right now. Unhittable. Pedro Martinez shit going on from Cate Blanchett. It's about a, you know, it'll get distilled down into being a movie about cancel culture. You know, Dave, I know that's one of your bugaboos.

We've got to cancel cancel culture, my guys. But check it out. It's about a woman who, it's about basically a lesbian orchestra conductor. So, you know, good luck. Go go ahead go try to cancel her it's complicated let's just look at the actions on their merits and uh and suss it out this ain't your grandma's canceling not at all my man not at all uh it's very uh very weird very arty uh very long fortunately or unfortunately but it's I was locked in the whole time, unlike anything I'd really seen.

Dylan's sprinting to go rent this. It's so long. I can't tell you how long it is. I can't tell you how slow it is, Dylan. I'm so lost in the movie scene. I never heard of this one. This isn't a good sales pitch, I got to tell you. My mother-in-law, I was at one of Freddie's

football games a couple weeks ago. I asked my mother-in-law, I said, have you seen any movies games a couple weeks ago I asked my mother-in-law I said have you seen any movies lately she said yeah I watched this movie Tar I fucking hated it no I it's it's awesome that was not a good sales pitch well listen if that doesn't you guys see Top Gun maybe that's more

your speed what else God I'm trying to think what else i saw did you guys watch severance tv show wise i i started severance and i was very impressed with severance but it was one of those shows where like i had no one watching it with me so i had no like reason to stick with it and like i almost need to go back and just do that because everyone loves it i watched it and don't remember it really i remember bits and pieces but i couldn't tell you like how it ended up yeah you can remember it like when you're at the office but when you go home you just no memory oh weird it's crazy how that works out sheesh are you guys top chef guys

no i mean i'm kind of you know i'm kind of more into the finer cooking shows like next level chef you familiar with the next level chef i'm not oh it's it's trash it's on fox it gets uh promoted very hard during the super bowl is that what you were just uh pitching me yeah i think you should maybe think about picking it up this this terrible show you need to waste your time and watch it which I'm not opposed to. I want to get into Top Chef. My issue is that the people that I know who watch it now are in fantasy leagues and stuff like that when it comes to it.

And it's a little intimidating because I need some skin in the game if everyone else has skin in the game. I can't be the only person not betting on these chefs. I absolutely love Top Chef and am struggling to get into the new season. It's a little, it's a little tough. I don't know what it is. I don't know why after,

you know, it's only been what? 300, 350 episodes. I don't know why. I don't know why it's getting stale. It's kind of like a, I feel like this,

these all-star seasons, it's like an all-star game. Like you get all these guys and you don't have any role players. You don't have any, right. These guys made it already. Yeah. I don't care if they win or not. and they're all trying to be the alpha and

it's like all right you need some some bit players as well and they need to bring back like a lot of the shitsters like all the people who make it super far not you know katsuji and uh who's that guy from uh from dallas marcel of course is oh the other guy from dallas that guy was just getting dunked on by everybody freaking out every challenge he was great but yeah i don't know everything it's all too optimized dave you know agree also more than anything gordon ramsay though yeah you guys uh you guys big chopped fans i i had a choppedped face. I had a Chopped face for sure. I remember that. I never really watched it, but apparently the chef from the taco place down the street from my house is on there this week.

So I'll be looking forward to tuning into that. Oh, I'm in. I had somebody on Sunday Scaries who was on Beat Bobby Flay. Ooh. And spoiler alert, she beat Bobby Flay. That's fucking awesome. Oh, man. Yeah.

Yeah. I didn't know the concept of the show when she told me about that, and I was like, I don't really know what that means. Another notch in her belt. Yeah, yeah. Good for her. Speaking of, like, food stuff, any new just outrageous trends going on down in Austin?

What are they turning the place next to you into? Oh, man. I don't know what they're doing. So there's this bar next to me, and it's got three different levels to it. It's got one patio on the water. It's got the inside dining area, and then it's got a rooftop deck. And it used to be just a place where college kids would go to watch sports and get drunk. Abel's on the lake.

And now they're turning it into like a high-end like mexican sushi yeah mexican sushi fusion which like i just don't know if we need that yeah i don't know what that's like yeah i would rather just have like i don't know another tex-mex spot or something like i or a sushi spot like i can't just i don't want to go next door for dinner and then suddenly be like 150 in the hole yeah but we're gonna're going to try it. I mean, what are, like, are they using Mexican flavors, but are they using, like, Spanish rice as well, like rice and refried beans? Great question.

I hadn't taken that into consideration, but I don't know if I want the Spanish rice under that. For me, Dave, it's the juxtaposition with the white rice. You love me some white rice. I went to a place in Colorado one time. I remember that was a Mexican and Japanese place like that. It was called Pepe Osaka's. That's sick.

I was laughing for, I don't know, 40 minutes, I think, after seeing that name. It's like Carlos O'Kelly's. Yeah, exactly. My friends are like, are you alright? What's going on? It's called Pepe Osaka. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. It could be a chain. Maybe they're putting one at Austin.

The James Beard Award nominations came out yesterday for the top restaurants and chefs in America. It was a big, big stir that Austin got completely left off the list. But whoever it was, maybe it was Jimmy Beard himself putting that list together. Who knows? I kind of like that they slighted Austin.

It humbled everybody here. Yeah, we needed that. Yeah, take us down a peg. Does it seem like that's going around? You know, the golf tournament's leaving, the James Beard thing. I'm hearing rumblings about F1 leaving. Really? Is Austin, is it getting too big for its britches? I hope so.

Dude, that'd be great. Silicon Valley Bank really hurt us. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. That's an interesting point. Dave, you had all your money in SVB. I don't want to talk about it publicly, but yeah, I did. Well, not all of it, but like a vast majority at SVB. A few mil. Well, no.

I mean, the Treasury bailed you out you got it all back yeah you're fine i was actually on the board of svb yeah i've been indicted actually no i'm kidding um none of that's true uh yeah the restaurant scene in austin we did there's a place y'all need to do if you ever come here which tron you come here from time to time you kind of stood me up last time you're in town but we won't talk about it um you gotta do congee you gotta do congee okay do you guys like caribbean food yeah oh yeah maybe a little jerk chicken yeah of course it's gas really good that sounds great whatever happened the guy, Gabe, the guy that won top chef and then got canceled? Yeah, he needs to watch Tar to figure out how to get out of this cancellation situation.

Exactly. Wasn't he the chef at the, what was it? Not the mansion, but that's in Dallas. Sorry. Hard to say. It is hard to say. Hey, I thought you guys might enjoy this. Speaking of fine dining, last week, I think it was Thursday or Friday,

my buddy texted me. He goes, is that a tourist patrol? I was like, I don't know. He's like, I just saw them at Bucky's in Temple, which is about an hour north of Austin on 35 going up Dallas Way. So I thought that was great. Just a Zalator's at Buc-ee's signing. When did you receive this message?

It's like Friday. I feel like Friday morning. I could be off by a day. I think he got drummed and then WD'd, I believe. Then probably went to Buc-ee's. And then hit up Buc-ee's. What do you think he got? You got to think it's some kind of like...

He got some beaver nugs for sure. Beaver nugs, brisket croissant or something, and definitely took a Mondo. Wait, they have a brisket croissant? I don't know. Probably. They should. We have Buc-ee's here in Northeast Florida,

but I don't feel like we have the full Buc-ee's experience. It only gets about 40% of the way there. I just feel like I have a fever dream when I'm going in there because I keep looking and grabbing for the brisket and egg tacos, and they're just never there. The best part is... I know I've had them before. Why are you guys holding out at me?

We're pretending like you don't make these. The best part about Buc-ee's, aside from the 400 gas pumps, is the clean bathrooms. Of course. It's an absolute game changer. See, I like the messiest bathrooms possible. That's why I stop in West Texas every time I'm heading up to Dallas. You do cocaine in there?

No. Why would I do cocaine in a dirty bathroom? It's the worst place to do cocaine. I don't know. I'm not trying to snort people's stuff from 1998. What the hell? Deej, what's the deal with Wally's up by you?

That's a good question. I haven't had time to really investigate it closely. It sounds like there's a Buc-ee's, a very polite Buc-ee's knockoff maybe trying to get a foothold in central Illinois. But I haven't really investigated it. When I do, I'll let this group know. Please do.

I'm invested in that. What's your cheese curd intake been like? I reached the edge of the world pretty quickly when we first moved here. I was doing it a couple times a week and had to rein it back in. I am very sparsely now. Now that the thrill is kind of gone

and the newness is kind of worn off, I'm maybe once every couple weeks, but it's kind of a rarity now. Sorry, Dylan has to bail. Dylan's, I guess, going to see his niece or something. Oh, Dylan's sister had a baby. He has to go see the baby. Cool, man. Hey, man, like, yeah, just don't do your job hey how do

you think this Gwyneth Paltrow thing's gonna shake yeah who hit who oh you know what same question I saw something today that said that she's she's playing the PR game perfectly she's dressing like she lives in Park City the locals are lapping it up. They love it. Can you give me a quick synopsis of what's going on? So they were in Deer Valley, and allegedly Gwyneth Paltrow ran into this man on the slopes. Some optometrist or something? Something. And there aren't that many eyewitnesses,

and some of the eyewitnesses, they've got holes in their story. Apparently there are some people who, uh, are employees at the resort who allegedly saw this and saw a different story. Uh, there were certain things yelled during the altercation that might've indicated that he hit her. Uh, I think he was above the, he was above her on the Hill. Yeah. And then I think she had a ski instructor as well. So he's saying that she's his client and that he doesn't want to mess up a good thing

and that she's paying him under the table to change his story and all that. And then the guy had all sorts of memory issues, I guess, prior to this, allegedly. I have had a listener reach out who has a story about this guy, and it sounds like this guy, per this person's story, it sounds as though he is not the nicest of fellers. Really?

It sounds like he might manufacture trouble out of nowhere in order to maybe get some stuff i hate hearing that yeah that's tough i did hear that he lost his ability to taste fine wine really which we can all relate you know i heard he was deep in the skin contact game yeah i don't know what that means. I don't either. Tron, you're a wine guy, right? I am. Where do we start here? I want to get in the wine game, but I have a trash pallet.

I don't know where to go. I'm walking around with my head cut off in the wine aisle, and I don't trust the people in my grocery store to actually lead me anywhere that's valuable. I think you live in a city where you're blessed with some fine wine shops and good wine bars. Go to one of those and put yourself in one of their fine employees' hands and say, hey, bring out some stuff. I'll do a tasting here.

Figure out what you like and then go deep down that wormhole i feel like wine's a bit of a it's a bit like golf right it's one of those things very uh can be cripplingly expensive but you know it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be you can find good wine you can find good golf just got to know where to look and i'm taking that second hand i don't know where to look on the wine side, but at least I'm regurgitating some of what Tron's told me in the past. Did y'all have anything during lockdown or anything that you made your entire personality?

I got, yeah, sourdough bread, of course. I remember that. I meant to say this to Dylan, actually, but the facial hair, he kind of missed his, I feel like, in a lifetime excuse to just experiment with any kind of facial hair that you could think of. Did that for a while. Part of it was like, we were here in Florida, so we didn't really like lockdown.

Yeah. It's kind of like, cool. You know, we're going to go on our lives now. Tron was doing a lot of protesting. I remember. Yeah. Daddy. Daddy D and I. Yeah. Ron on run you and me ball ron dave got into like tattoos he wasn't getting them but he was giving them yeah he was running

a tattoo parlor out of his garage yeah there's a couple guys uh i grew up with just kind of a little moonlighting gig just kind of doing some some of the guys around the neighborhood they'd stop by we'd give them some ink no i definitely researched tattoos quite a bit over the pandemic but never never pulled the trigger you feel like you missed your window yeah actually now that you say that i do because i yeah the my i did the facial hair thing obviously and then i like people, if I got one and regretted it, people could at least be like, you got it during the pandy. It was weird, man.

Crazy time, man. It was just crazy times, man, this ongoing global pandemic. We were just trying to get through it. I know, man. Then we had the freeze and all that stuff. It was tough down here. So, yeah. Have you ever had a piercing?

No. Wanted the eyebrow piercing in in the uh limp biscuit corn era did you did you ask your parents if you could get it yes yeah i asked my mom if i could get a plug in my ear when i was in ninth grade didn't go well what do you think was the key influence on that the plug yeah uh Yeah. There was a senior in my Spanish class and he had one. And I was like, dude, that's sick. I want to do that. And he was like, you should go do it. And I went home that day and I asked my mom. And this was like first day of school.

And she was just like, what? No, no. And then we had to do a project the first week of Spanish class where we had to translate a song into Spanish spanish and perform it in front of the class and i got partnered up with said senior and he break stuff he decided to do the south park theme song and i guess there's something inappropriate in it and so we got kicked out of class immediately like she she immediately turned it off and was like get get out of here i don't know i don't know why i don't think i deserved it jeez this is what we have to deal with guys cancel culture i always wanted to do the uh the bobby bonilla paper clip in the ear

i thought that was sick oh that's fire dude paper clip necklaces are hot right now there's dudes on love island wearing them i mean i'm not gonna copy everything they do on there because then we'd be wearing like yeezys at the pool and stuff. Yeah, you can't do that. No, I bleached my hair one time. Did not just highlight it. I did a full Eminem, Slim Shady. Brooks Koepka. Yeah, I did it.

My mom and dad were at dinner. My buddy came over and bleached it. My parents came home. My mom almost fell to the ground, was so appalled by what I had done. Booked me an appointment, like, two days later for the, I don't know, her beauty salon, and they dyed it back. It was just, it was a whole thing. I didn't live that one down. They reversed it?

Reversed it, yeah. Did you at least get a hard pick, like, while you had it? There are some picks out there, yes. One will i will share like just for men uh no no play for mr gray pretty pretty whole fraser commercial pretty much yeah i walked into that salon and uh i was the only like 17 year old dude they were just laughing at me i was like yep, yep, I'm in trouble. I never had any moments like that. I was just the kid that had a bowl cut for like two years too long. Not into high school. No, not into high school.

Not into high school. But I definitely was like, I needed to kick it. It's not a good look. It's not. But we all had them. All right. Well, lads, this was fun. Hey, thanks for having us. I tried to keep track of what we talked about today

and the list of things that were discussed. I don't know why, but for some reason, I really got enjoyment out of writing DJ's Oscar recap in my notes app. It was comprehensive. Thanks. Yeah, we do an oscars pod every year uh on the trap draw and i think this year's was four hours long so it's good that

there were still you know there's just a couple things that were cut for time that we had to uh had to sneak in here with you guys i used to be like really into the oscars and try to watch all the movies but then ever since they expanded the field it got a little more difficult for me to uh take that sure yeah it's it's a fun that's that's kind of the only reason we do it is for that for that podcast but it's a good you know kind of meaningless structure gets you out watching movies gets you going to the theater you know things like that i saw a lot of stuff i wouldn't have seen otherwise you seen john wick four not yet Good stuff? No, not yet. I'm waiting. I got to watch the first three also.

Oh, come on. That's what's been holding me back. Do I need to finish Triangle of Sadness? Nah. I got cut off about 15 minutes in and had to go do something and I never returned. It depends how you like your satire, but it kind of felt a little

like pushing a five-year-old down the stairs. know like oh god we're gonna really stick it to these russian oligarchs talk about how bad these guys are is it a more aggressive version of like the what was it called the dinner the feast the menu the menu i need to see that that looks sweet the menu hit a little too close to home because i feel like i'd be one of the assholes who like goes and tries to do something like that and i was like dude i would do it i would totally deserve this that's the satire i like the stuff that's like oh god i could kind of see myself in that person i might need to examine some stuff rather than just like oh look at how bad this you know like don't look up did you guys see that that that's a yeah like man isn't these

politicians man you can't trust them so yeah no i no, I think we got that. I think we got that. There's going to be a movie called The Tasting where everyone gets stuck in a wine cave and Tron's going to be like, nah, this was too close to home. Yeah, I couldn't finish it, man. I didn't care for it. I had to tap out. Yeah, which wasn't for me.

Which, actually, circling back, no pun intended, on that Gabe Rallis guy from Top Chef. His place was Commodore. on that Gabe Rallis guy from Top Chef. His place was Comedor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ever eat there? People still love it, yeah.

Yeah, it's apparently very good. Yeah, actually my sister-in-law is obsessed with it right now, so every dinner they try to get us to go to is at Comedor. Bone marrow tacos. He was deep in the mole game. Oh, yeah. Just insane. Damn. Damn tacos he was deep in the mole game oh yeah just insane damn damn he got lost in the sauce i've been looking to dabble in the mole game for a minute more mole more problems that's that's what they say i feel like gabe was uh largely acquitted of much of the cancellation but i could be wrong about that they tried to cancel my guy ming sai i know i saw that

a couple weeks ago i was pumped to see rory joining the uh rory joining the uh trap draw alums alongside ming sai super chef ming sai and uh also the huntsman you had ming sai on the pod yeah we had ming sai he was our Boston guest. I think shortly after you were on for Austin. Yeah, I made the fatal mistake of saying that I enjoyed playing Wolf Dancer, of course, out in Bastrop. Never heard the end of it from my guys, my No Laying Up guys. Not y'all, but it was funny. Some Austin people were like, Wolf Dancer?

Like, it's fine. I like Wolf Dancer. Our guy Poosh calls our trap draw fans the trap stoolies. Yeah, they're pretty militant against him. He needs to stop having horrible takes, and I think it will probably take care of itself. Y'all need to have Will on. Y'all need to have Will on to talk Michigan.

That'd be great. Actually, we should do that this summer. Summ summertime in northern michigan i won't make any kid rock references if you guys do i promise mike terrico yeah that's right how's your guys's golf games by the way we're about to find out dave and i are both hovering around 12 right now that's dangerous spot to be it's not good it's not good i got down pre pre-child i got down to like eight ish and post-child it's just like like what will just said not great at least you know but the important thing is we keep a handicap unlike the guy who rudely walked out of the show who doesn't understand why you should do that but i'm just actively trying to take take my swing speed down a little bit just really shorten the the game for

me right now and i think it's working a little bit you're playing lions i'm trying to get saturday i'm just trying to get sub 10 by the end of summer it's all i care about you can do it will's got a very very consistent like like swing that's i mean it's it's we hired will because his back swing looked really good when he was playing arcadia bluff jokes on you yeah i mean he's rolling himself back that's right yeah that's i've actually i've actually actively tried to do that yeah i i just i'm too out of control lately david didn't you get that new putter? I did. I'm digging it too, man. Early returns? Pretty good, man. Had a good rounded, not to name drop, ACC media day match.

Oh, wow. Had a good putting day. Had a real good putting day. What's going on over there? Is it the tour's fault? Is it Dell's fault? Is it the membership's fault? The membership sounds like it's a fucking disaster. Old people and the young people, the olds are sniping at

the youngs. Um, yeah. And, and I feel like you have a, an ear to that, uh, closer than mine, because I feel like you, aren't you normally your team, uh, your team member in these kinds of disputes. If I don't, if I'm not mistaken? I don't know, man. It kind of seems like. I don't know. I could be wrong. But that is the vibe that I got was just.

Tron boot triangle of sadness. Yeah. This is member versus member. So you got to pick a side within the membership. I understand why they would not want their club to be shut down for as long as it is each year. And that being said, what did they go to the tour, ask for more money,

and then communication just ceased and it was just like, nope, we're done. They just took their ball and went home. The tour was like, yeah, we got kind of a lot of shit going on right now, man. We're not going to worry about your guys's generational shift politics yeah i think dell dell tried to bring in intel as like a presenting sponsor as well to kind of share the load and the tour was like nah there you go oh yeah didn't they do a vote and it was like 51 49 in terms of like

yeah let's keep doing it uh at some point yeah yeah. I don't know if that was the most recent one. No, it obviously wasn't the most recent one. But no, they were pretty closely split from what I understand. But I have to think, if they brought Intel in, would the logo be any less shitty? It would be shittier. It is truly a bad logo. You're talking the WGC logo.

I'm talking not just, no, the WGC. I don't, I don't know which one of y'all called it clip art. I think it might've been Neil. It's good. Just the good,

the Dell match play logo is just, it's just, it is the least swag. Literally just the Dell corporate. It just says Dell with the corporate, you know, the little E sideways and then technologies match play. It just says Dell with the corporate, you know, the little E sideways. And then technologies match play.

There's no logo. It looks like it was just designed to be like embroidered on the, you know, the arm of a quarter zip. Like letterhead. And like given away for free. Absolutely swagless. There was no less swag like tournament shop to go through than the one at ACC. You know what's hard? I'm going to debut, if it's okay with you guys.

I'm going to debut a brand new take here on this podcast. I feel like everybody loves to talk about Phoenix, right? And, oh my God, the Phoenix Open. This is what golf needs. Why don And Oh my God, the Phoenix open. This is just, this is what golf needs. Why don't we have more of the Phoenix open? This is so unbelievable. And as we say very, very frequently every year, it's like, dude, that takes so long to build that. And you got to just like, keep doing the same thing year over year over year. And it's a confluence of timing and golf course and tournament host and tournament sponsor and organizers and all

those like the field all those things i i truly think the match play at acc in austin was like the closest that we had to creating another one of those right and it just i'm kind of realizing that i think as as the like this last like week and a half has gone by and as it's like actually gone away now, it's like, man, that's undoing. I know it was only four or five years or whatever, but that is the tournament that was so obviously heading in that direction in the best way.

That was so authentically, organically awesome on site and people were so excited about it. It was such a good fit for the city, for the golf course. The field's phenomenal and it really sucks to see that like go up in smoke because i don't really know what else is even close it's crazy to have a bridge like that and not incorporate it into the logo at all the pennybacker bridge yeah i heard that it's a gorgeous gorgeous piece of infrastructure it is uh it's it's i can say as someone who's gone the last i mean we've all gone the last four or five years.

It's very fun. I've gone to the Nelson many times. I've gone to Colonial. We've done the Players Championship. But I don't know. This one, the water holes are so unique, and it's just completely a different vibe. And the boats, I know the boats are kind of,

they're talked about too much, but it is pretty hilarious. Have you done the boat before? No. No, we somehow never did it. We never did the boat. I don't know if it's the best for viewing. I don't know what kind of view you got out there, but it does look like a scene. And by the way, it is a river, not a lake.

I don't care what they say. Wow. I agree. Put your foot down. I will. Thank you. I agree, though. It's not a lake.

No, it doesn't make any sense. Anyway, where can we find you guys? I'm trying to think of other boat-friendly tournaments, events. Of course, there was the Zach Johnson debacle. Moline. Yes, yes, yes. The John Deere classic. Well, if the PGA Tour would get off their ass

and connect the intercoastal to the 17th hole at Sawgrass, you could have boats coming in there. You could just have a lazy river situation. There's so many things you could do. You could go jet ski. Why don't they just let people just kayak

out on 17? I think it's politics. That's what I felt like Camith should have done this year he was just hanging out at home down the street like parry like attach a jet ski to a parachute and land it in the water on the lake next to 17 and just start ripping donuts on that thing i mean pretty all time that would have been that yeah that would have been his move the mullet just flapping in the wind exactly a ripper's flag and an australian flag behind him are you guys gonna pay for twitter verification from twitter blue i don't think i'll be doing that dj's been verified for years well i was verified when i worked at the pj tour it was it was an incumbent verification, TC.

It doesn't define me. You were one of the elites. Do either of you own any live gear? Someone gave me a hat recently, but I think it was as a joke. Was it like a live hat or a team hat? It was. I think he was coming in from Tulsa. Not Tulsa.

Tulsa? Yeah, they have an event in Tulsa, right? At one of the golf courses there. I think he was a in from Tulsa not Tulsa, Tulsa? Yeah, they have an event in Tulsa, right? At one of the golf courses there. I think he was a member there and they were selling a bunch of stuff in the golf shop. He thought that would be a funny gesture, which it was. It made me laugh. My brother showed up. My brother came to visit me in Milwaukee

a couple weekends ago and he waited. It was amazing. I was hanging out with him for, I don't know, 10 hours before this. And at the end of the night, he finally took his sweatshirt off. And underneath, he had a custom Crushers t-shirt that he had made on the internet.

Just like a whatever. Like a Printify type t-shirt thing where you just upload your logo in there. And he's like, yeah, I thought that was sick, huh? You don't get it because you don't like it yeah i thought that was sick huh you don't get it because you because you don't like it like oh no i get it that's funny it was good i'm gonna do that what are your favorite teams yeah you guys are you which teams do you support which clubs do

you support yeah i mean i'm in a i'm in a whatsapp group with my uh fellow niblicks fans yeah we just kind of yeah we just chop it up. It's kind of tough times. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. You know your boy's a crusher. Yeah. Did you guys do the, if you haven't, I'd recommend it, and really to all the listeners, but the team selector on the website?

No, I have not done the team selector. It's pretty good. They ask you, like, what do you like most? Like hitting bombs, getting up and down draining putts it's like a questionnaire oh you're like what are you in the clubhouse yeah and it spits out a team i think i was a majestic supporter after that congrats thanks i was team smash unfortunately i'm more of a i'm a huge niblicks guy i'm a huge majestic sky too do you got like i know that like that you know the human rights, you know,

violations are rampant, but there's periods of time when I scroll, I'm scrolling Twitter and I see like the amount of views that some of their videos get. And like part of me is just like, man, I kind of feel bad for like the social media managers. Like they didn't do anything wrong besides accept a job that they thought

could like propel them somewhere else. And they're getting like 20 likes on these tweets celebrating stuff. My guy Dirty Mike. Dirty Mike McAllister. He used to work at the PGA Tour. The golf editor. We got to get their numbers up. I think we got to throw them a retweet every once in a while and just make them feel good as social media managers. What's Dylan's favorite team? He's an Ironheads guy. Through and through he's just all in on the iron heads he's all he did the thing and he just searched like okay they're like what do you like and he typed in flop shot and that's where it came up just open that face up all day that's good big signing with danny lee it's huge one of the

early events yeah it's breaking news to me. They've had Danny Lee and all their graphics hitting it left-handed. Get a guy that can do both. They need to have a talk with their entire graphics team because that is inexcusable. It's just such a conscious thing to take someone and flip them around. Yeah.

I've done a lot of graphic design in my life and there's certain certain situations when you do do that but you hope that no one will notice and and whoever did that just must not realize uh how important it is to stand on one side of the ball or the other right it's usually the first thing you think of when you approach your shot i know we've talked a lot of music in this episode but any any thoughts on the Chainsmokers running it back? I think this will be their maybe third live appearance in Singapore coming up.

That really goes for any of the three of you. Are they the only, not only artists, but are they the only entity, because I do believe that the Chainsmokers are an entity in and of themselves, that has been able to go back and forth and straddle that line between tour and live? Because it seems like they have not been excommunicated from the tours world i think they were they were going

back and forth and i feel like they're committed now to live i think that's right and i think they're uh i think maybe some of the broadcasts you know like the boots on the ground camera operators stuff like that i think maybe i've seen some stuff about some sharing TV resources and things like that. Those guys are just grabbing a check. You get that. You got to show up where the jobs are. It's crazy. They're head of production, I think.

His wife runs the U.S. Olympic Committee. How about that? It's wild. Aren't the chain smokers just mad because they didn't think that their appearance at the Players' Championship should have been canceled

pre-lockdown? I completely agree. No, it didn't get canceled. Oh, it did not. They actually did it. I thought you meant cancel culture. It was like the big finale pre-lockdown. The last big event.

I think the chain smokers are uncancellable. They shut down the NBA because I remember it was Mavs Nuggets. The next day, they were doing the chain smokers show. I thought the world shut down the day before. I think it was the same day. If I'm remembering right,

I think it was Wednesday. It was Wednesday. It would have been... You might be right, Dave. I think Tuesday was the concert and then Wednesday was like all the shit happened and then Thursday was like the jaws

you know we're not closing the beaches it's gonna be the best summer ever kind of attitude from the PGA Tour very eerie on site at the stadium course that day to quote brian windhorse no more buffets yeah the other thing that's kind of shocked me just speaking of musical acts and live can't believe imagine dragons hasn't gotten a call i know they have to have gotten a call

uh have you seen that the lead singer buddy just discovered that he's kind of hot no i missed that he's been he's been performing like shirtless and, but he just discovered that he's kind of hot? No, I missed that. He's been performing like shirtless and he's like all, you know, he's ripped up, which of course he is. It's Imagine Dragons guy. And like women are like, oh, okay. One person on Twitter, I'm saying it's all women,

but now one person on Twitter was like, um, nobody told me this guy was hot. I think I'm in on Imagine Dragons now. Yeah, this guy's on testosterone he's absolutely he's just like he's thick yeah oh yeah i'm looking at before and after this dude got on some t therapy for sure good for him good for him i would love to do that it's a it's a dragon or whatever are you more of a testosterone or an HGH guy? I think I'm leaning testosterone right now. Right.

Let's just get right to it. Yeah. I don't know. Whatever fills out my shoulders and jawline more. Is there one or one of the other that'll help? I think that'll do it. It might grow your head, your hat size a few, a few. That's okay.

That's fine. That's okay. I just have no jawline. That's what, that's why I have a beard. I'm holding out till I'm 40 to get on TRT. That's my, that's my that's fine that's okay i just have no jawline that's what that's why i have a beard i'm holding out till i'm 40 to get on trt that's that's my goal yeah well see what happens with this live stuff too because you don't want to have to buy a bunch of new you know majestics hats or sma or whatever you said whatever tv said you were might not be able to i've only been buying my uh my lid what's your head to get too big you have to buy a bunch of new stuff yeah i've just been doing adjustable stuff because i don't want to mess with get too big. You have to buy a bunch of new stuff. Yeah, I've just been doing adjustable stuff

because I don't want to mess with it. I've been buying my shirts big just to grow into. They need to do more bits with their shirts. Do they really? They think they're going to be F1 teams. Yeah. That's the thing. You're talking about selling them for just nine figures.

They don't have any sponsors. The Kleeks don't even have a thousand followers on Twitter. It's tough out there for the clique heads. Talking about just selling them for hundreds of millions of dollars. You know what? Hand up. I said I was a Niblix fan earlier. I'm actually a cliques fan.

Oh, okay. Is Blandy on that team? It's Blandy and GMAC and the blokes. Yeah, it's good stuff. I i think we gotta get out of here i'm gonna go play my pizza card or za card as the people call it famously um will and i drank a guinness i don't know if you guys noticed we liked it we're a work hard play hard environment here yeah that's awesome man yeah it was crazy yeah we're pretty wild we have if you if you walk into the wash media headquarters and you open our refrigerator you'd be like wow these guys drink

a lot and then you realize that we have about one beer in the office every six months that's why there's so many there probably yeah yeah i think the last time i had a beer in the office was when we did uh when we had uh you on dj for i think we just did like Happy Hour Live or something. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the last time, and that had to have been about six months ago. I think that's right. Well, that's good. Special occasion.

Shout out Guinness. By the way, did anybody end up breaking my record for picks? You were tied. You tied. I was tied. Too much dip. Yeah, somebody tied you, but I was last. I did very, very poorly. I still have to do a combine video here in the next couple months. I got to start working on sprints. Dude, you're going to pull a hammy. I know.

Is it going to be like the Rovell video? something similar and i it rained and we didn't have a track so we did our 40s on on grass and i completely ate it and just like put my d in the dirt it was not good i was so unathletic at the time that i didn't get the invite i was the only person on the content team who didn't get an invite yeah that's in retrospect that was a mess not my call very cool it's kind of a badge of honor in a way yeah what other events did you do you did 40 bench shuttle we did shuttle bench vertical you wonder like no wonder lick which doesn't make any i don't know why that would have been that's the easiest one i feel like to uh to do and it would have been the most interesting but no no wonder lick Wonderlic. Maybe I'll do that this time around, since I'm not competing against anybody. We have access

to old Wonderlics, don't we? Yeah, our intern, Klein. He sent me one a while back. Let's make it happen. I want to do it. We'll do it. I'm not going to run a 40. I'm going to walk the 40 so I don't pull anything. Smart. They set the over-under at

5-2, and I said I the over under at 5-2, and I said I can go sub-5-2, which now that I think about it is pretty adventurous. But we're going to try. We're going to see about it. I might have to get that company card and get a trainer. We can do that. Thank you.

Yeah. You heard it here first. I think you can go sub-5-1. Tron, I really appreciate that you're the only person who said anything positive about me running the 40 and that in my book is very positive i don't even think saying that you could go sub 5-1 is even necessarily positive yeah i feel like you could do that i don't know i have faith in you i'm 38 you guys are aware of that right i think i think I'm older than both of you guys. Yeah, but some of those linemen, they're sub 5'2", and they're big boys. Yeah, well, I podcast for a living.

Yeah, they get paid actual money to play college football. It's like the biggest moment of their lives to run that. And for me, it's just like I just want to make sure I don't pop a hammy. So I'm not out six weeks. We had a buddy, a guy on our content team, Dan, old Danny Regs. He popped his hammy training for that combine. And he was like 24 at the time. There's no excuse for that.

I told him before. I was like, do not sell out on a 40 to prepare for this. You need to make sure that your first fast 40 is the one that you're doing on camera. And he comes into the office the morning of the combine just limping around his entire his entire thigh was covered in like ace bandages and i'm like i don't know if those are doing anything they're not doing anything they were a whole see so you would have rather him pop his hammy on camera for sure correct we're content guys yeah like you get it if you're gonna pop if you're gonna get injured you might as well get injured on camera and that that's a blanket statement i think that's right yeah well guys this was fun yeah thanks for having us guys great to great to catch up great to catch up you guys

if you're not familiar with uh no laying up in the trap draw podcast check them out you guys got anything you want to plug just tar that's it well i feel like we could plug the succession pod yeah we did a uh pod all about uh the hbo show succession with rory mcelroy which was really fun last week you can find that on the trap draw podcast channel thing feed. You did a good job on that one. Thanks. Thanks. It's a, yeah.

Interesting, interesting assignment to say the least, but very grateful for his time. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We even had a, it was the last we had Joe.

Who's the guy, Julian, y'all's guy, golf guy, Surrey? Julian Surrey. Yeah, we had him on like six years ago. He was nice. Yeah. Great guy. Yeah.

Not Rory level, but we'd love to have him back on. Hey, we had Smiley that one time. We did have Smiley. Noted commentator. Smiley's great. Smiley's hard to get along with, huh? Yeah, terrible guy. You just hope for the best for him. ran into dylan famously at the natty house at the uh the infamous the infamous

natty throne that's a true story it's a good time all right well we're gonna get out of here love you guys this was fun thank you guys. Bye-bye.