Circling Back - Poolside Disrespect & Karen Read Trial with Barstool's Kayce Smith

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Kayce Smith from Barstool Sports joins the show to talk Karen Read trial, then the boys discuss 25 cent mini margaritas, Will tells a story of poolside disrespect, and the Texas governor vetoes the TH...C ban. Support us on Patreon and receive weekly episodes for as low $5 per month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch all of our full episodes on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/washedmedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Washed Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.washedmedia.shop • (0:00) Fun & Easy Banter • (10:10) TWIF: 25 Cent Mini Margs • (30:00) Karen Read Trial with Barstool's Kayce Smith • (56:50) Will Was Disrespected in a Pool • (1:20:30) Texas Governor Does Something Cool Support This Episode’s Sponsors: • Lucy: Go to https://lucy.co/steam and use promo code (STEAM) to get 20% off your first order. Lucy has a 30-day refund policy if you change your mind. • Rhoback: Get 20% off at https://rhoback.com/ with promo code WASHED20. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, we are back circling back podcast. Monday morning. Happy Monday to yous. My name is David. I'm going to host and I'm going to present some content in a way that I hope you find delightful, humorous, and even witty at times. Joining me in studio producing is Randall Trimbaki. Hi, Dave.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I hope that I do some amusing stuff as well. Are you sure you will? You've been trying lately. Man, I woke up just before my alarm today and felt just so energized. I'm ready to go. How's the move? Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:58 How's the move going? It's still going. Did you get everything moved over though? No, I mean, everything's moved over. It's just more of having to hang stuff on the wall or building boxes and whatnot. Here's a guy who's built a few things in his day, brick by brick, Dylan Shivery.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Man, I'm excited to be here. This feels like a good time to be a backer and a patron for that matter. Got some exciting stuff cooking, very bullish right now on the content we're providing for everyone. It's only going to get better. What do you mean by bullish? I don't want to talk about it. Just like for the folks at home. Very optimistic. The outlook looks fantastic. Good time to get in. When do you think they came up with those? I don't know. I've wondered that.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Because like a bull and a bear. Bear is no good. Bull good. But why? But why? You said it like Christopher Walken. Those are both like, I mean, the bear is the alpha predator of the two. A bull's nothing to be trifled with. Yeah, a bear's one in that scrap. A grizzly. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But I'm just saying, like, they're both, you'd think like for what they, how they describe like bearish, like a bear market, it would be something a little bit more um, docile. Sure. Docile. Yeah. Like a mouse.
Starting point is 00:02:15 A sloth market. A sloth. Yeah. A titmouse. Yeah, we don't really have like competitive bear riding or, you know, bear fighters and stuff. So I get served a guy on Instagram who like has a pet bear. He's like a Russian guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:32 He's like tamed the bear. Let me guess he wrestles with it. And that's what they do. They play fully wrestle. And then, uh, my guy Dean, I think Dean Schneider, the guy who, uh, raises the lions, I think he's got a place out Africa way. Africa is a large continent. Oh, I follow that dude. He's crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Yeah. He wrestles with his lions. They're his, he raised them. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. He's tamed them. Awesome. Something you've never fucking done.
Starting point is 00:02:55 No, I've never tamed a lion. That's true. I don't think you have either for that matter. You don't know nothing about me. What's your name? Dylan Shivers here. Man, I'm just, I'm just stoked. Double intro. I'm stoked, man. We just did a really great interview with Casey Smith, which we'll hear in a little bit. And that was awesome. We had her on to talk, Karen Reed.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Karen Reed. Have you guys seen this? She is knowledgeable. We just posted a summary of everything that happened on the doc and put it out on a reel. And one guy was like, why you guys are really early on this? And we're still talking about it. Yeah, you know, but it just wrapped up. There was a number of people who had not heard of it. So kind of early there. Oh my goodness. What a show we have in store for you.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Maybe we'll bring out another special guest later. I don't know, man. We can kind of do what we want. That's crazy. Yeah. I hope you're ready for a buddy. I am. Check it out. Got something in the mail. Got a little handwritten note.
Starting point is 00:03:52 My boy Chris. If you listen to the Patreon, I think we encountered this gentleman via cold call. But it's our guy, Chris, Chris Kelly. Chris Kelly sent us a, uh, Johnson's horsepower garage, the drag race team Jersey, his very own crazy sponsors on that. John, you can't see it because you're missing out. It's a visual show. It's a show that is visual.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's a viewable show as well. You can view it. Uh, but no, he sent us, he's a coming to us live from out Indiana way. He actually claims Indiana, unlike somebody. Um, me. You claim Chicago. Yeah. I claim Texas now. Gary, Indiana.
Starting point is 00:04:32 He's going to be in Ennis. Not Gary. At the track in Ennis in March. Ennis, Texas out off a 45 and, uh, you know what? That's probably about a two hour jump north of here. I think we can make that happen. Trying to go up around. Maybe have us out in the garage. We've already done the F1. We've done the can make that happen. Trying to go up.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Maybe have us out in the garage. We've already done the F1. We've done the paddock. Get us out to Ennis. Have us see what's up with the drag races. You know, standing there arms crossed and just nodding our heads. Oh yeah, that thing's fast, man.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I think, man, that thing's huge. It's a great time, like Dylan said, to be a backer, an optimized backer. We are scheduled to start our first, hit our first Coffee Friday, Randy. When do you think that that's gonna hit? When's that first Coffee Friday? Cause you're out next week.
Starting point is 00:05:16 This Friday. Friday. This Friday. Are you kidding? Yeah. I haven't had time to prepare. Patreon, Patreon only. Dude, the beauty of the Coffee Fridays,
Starting point is 00:05:23 you don't need to prepare. It's a vibe, it's a vibes play. I know, but my vibes have been a little bit off. This one's going to be live by the way. It's the whole thing about it. It's live. Live only on Patreon. Yeah, you can do that. I don't know exactly how. Well, I do know how. The technological aspect, I said that weird. This is up to Randy. So this is a Randy. I already have it set up. Yeah, I already have it. He said it's not going to be produced for a week. But do we know what time I have it currently at 10 30, but we could do 10. We will have to discuss it after the podcast. We'll let you know. How about I like, I like 10.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Dave likes 10. That will do you want to know like 10. Dave liked 10. Do you want to know why? Tentatively 10. I just want to come in and like, I'm probably, on my Friday morning, I typically hit a pump. And I want to come in while that tea is still peaking. He wants a peak tea podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You do podcasts better after a pump. I've noticed that about you. I hit the weights today. Usually you're coming here like a little bitch. It's true. You know, puny little bitch and you just low energy. I think most people, uh, they perform better at their job. If they, uh, if they hit a little workout in the morning.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's me. I follow a lot of Instagram accounts. Um, you can do a seven day trial on Patreon. A lot of, a lot of you have, and guess what? A lot of you have converted over. Our conversion rate, I don't know what it is now.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Last time I checked it was something crazy. It's going crazy. If you do it, chances are, you're going to be like, you know what? I'm in. I'm sold. The boys are doing their best work back there, but we do good work here too. We do great work here. We do listener voicemails every Thursday, We do great work here. We do listener voicemails every Thursday, 888-618-4422. That's the pipeline. Leave us a call, a comment, a question, a prompt, something we can do. You don't want to go too long. I know a lot of people like to call in.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Sorry to anybody who calls in like four or five times because they had connection issues or they just botched a call. It's hard for me to do that, especially when you reference the previous call because we're not going to glue them together. Randy said he won't edit calls together. So I don't know, take that up with him, randy at washed media.com. I never said that. I won't. We also dropped a, we drop a newsletter every Friday, washed weekly. You can learn all about my steel pan. Wow. It's a steel pan. It's a steel pan. But the ironic thing is I paid for it.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I don't know who misspelled steel in the sub in the subheader there. Some idiot. No, check it out every Friday morning. It'll be in your inbox. It's great content. And then, uh, yeah, you can follow us if you want. I don't know. I hate to even like bring this up, but like youtube.com slash circling back.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We have a YouTube doing. Whoa. We do. It's a visual show. Oh, he said it. Why do you say that so much? Dude, why are you saying it? Is it a bit?
Starting point is 00:08:16 What do you, it's not a bit. I just want people to know. It doesn't really change like the content. I'm just saying like. You can also watch it. You can watch us. I'm listening to circling back. There's one thing I don't want to hear and that's bits, David. I'm looking, look, I feel like I look pretty good these days. I've got, I've got my, my skin's looking good.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I'm somewhat sun kissed more on that in a minute. He's hitting it. He's fucking hitting it. I just want people to look at it and be like, you know what? They just pop in right now. This DCR guy's kind of, he's kind of a peaking right now. It'sR guy is kind of, he's kind of peaking right now. He's kind of snack, a little snack. I don't- It's a sex pot. Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna get into it in your this weekend of fun,
Starting point is 00:08:51 but how was that session with Brett? A pump sesh? Yeah, they were a little pump sesh. You know, I got him in there Thursday. He hit me up out of the blue. He's like, Dave, I want to use a guest pass at Lifetime. I'm like, all right. So we went Thursday and we walked in together, went our separate ways.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And that was that we didn't even pump together. Really? Yeah. Okay. We're just doing different things. We were riding different waves that day. He was hitting chest. He was working.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah. Not me. It was lower body day. He said one of his pecs is growing faster than the other one. He's worried about it. He should be. I think you can mitigate that. It might be in his head, but I think you can mitigate that with a, like an
Starting point is 00:09:32 extra rep or two, proper form, maybe proper form, but he's got the shoulder thing, so like that much, I think he needs to just walk in your pop top and let us give him, like, he doesn't have to do it on camera. I think you would break it down. You think you would do that? I don't think like, he doesn't have to do it on camera. I think you would do that. I don't think so. He doesn't have to be on camera. We could just look at him and be like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:49 that left one's a little bit bigger. Started drawing circles with marker on his body. Yeah, I don't know if we need to do that. It's a little weird. It's a little far. Didn't you say your left glute's a little bit bigger after the move? No, but I'll tell you my right knee
Starting point is 00:10:04 is way better than my left knee. Sorry, still milking that. Bro, let's go out this weekend. There's a crazy event happening. I like to turn off. Bro, there's a crazy event happening. We had the party and it was lit. I got yelled at by a prostitute. Let's just go have fun and let go of it. Nailed it, Woodfellas. Let's go. This Weekend in Fun presented by Lucy. 100% pure nicotine always tobacco free. How about that Lucy Breaker, Hoff? I got a Lucy Breaker in right now, Davey.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I'm glad you brought that up, man. I got the 8-milligram Apple Ice Lucy Breaker. I can't even tell. I have subscribed. I get a monthly delivery and I love these things. I take one before I record, gets me dialed, picks up my energy levels a little bit. I love these things. I love taking them after breakfast is my favorite time to take them probably. They're so great.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Each pouch holds a capsule. It can be broken open to release extra flavor and hydration. I think it was on last Thursday's voicemails, you cracked the breaker near the mic and it was an audible, very, very pronounced breaker crack. It sounded great. It was like aesthetically pleasing. I totally, I'll co-sign that. Yeah. They, of course, aside from the breakers, they have the gum, which Dave likes, and they have just your standard pouch, which we're all used to. The gum comes in as little as two milligram in the pouches and the breakers, they do four, eight and 12. Two milligrams, please.
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Starting point is 00:11:52 code steam to get 20% off. Here comes the fine print. Lucy products are only for adults of legal age and every order is age verified. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Dillon, why don't you just go ahead and break down that weekend for us, home? Thank you. Pretty excited to talk about my weekend. Chelsea and I stepped out on Friday. We went to a little place down the street called Bolden Acres, popular spot. And what I discovered is that on Fridays from, what did I say in the text? Two to six, I think they have 25 cent. Many frozen margaritas right there. 25 cents for that little guy right there.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And it's, um, it's many, but it's really like, it's kind of like half of a margarita it's probably like 40% of a regular margarita size. Just notice how fucked up your thumb looks. No, it's a good thumb, man. That's a good thumb. So, and- 25 cents. There's no limit? There's no limit.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Sadly, we got there at 558, not knowing that there was a deal that ended at six, so we only got one, but guess what? I'll be back, bud. Wait, so after that, you can't even order the mini one? I don't think so. No, man, I would love to go. Then they dress it up, comes with salt and lime,
Starting point is 00:13:12 and they're also really good. It would be the funniest thing to like, just have like a wrong side of 40 crash out. And like when you have to explain to your wife why you got home, like just real fucking shit ass 12 mini Marks. Just got real shit ass on fucking mini Marks. For three dollars. The good news is I only spent three bucks, babe.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Here's the deal. So cheap. I'm not going to be able to help with the kids for the next like day or two. But, but I spent very little money. Didn't spend that much money. Is there's a deal at Doc's backyard that if the temperature reaches over a hundred degrees, I think it's like $1 margaritas too.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Really? So like a year ago or two years ago when there was like 30 days in a row over a hundred, I've got to assume that they lost a lot of money on that. Can you imagine how hard this would go in Canton, Massachusetts? Oh my God. They wouldn't know what hit them, man.
Starting point is 00:14:05 That'd be whole town driving drunk. You get pulled over. Let's pretend they actually have a police force that pulls people over for that. Like, hey, hold on. Let me try this again. Okay. You know why I pulled you over? That's not it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Either way. It's like, how many drinks you had? I had fucking, I had like 14. 14 drinks? Yeah, they were fucking minis. How many drinks you had? I had fucking, I had like 14. 14 drinks? Yeah, they were fucking minis. So that was fun, man. Fucking Devin, man.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That was a good time. He went yard. Did you see Devin went yard? Did he? Yeah, he went yard for the first time. Wow. He's a good ball player. Good hitter.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Great. He's a good ball player. Saturday, we got Parks. That character will never come back. Thanks. We had a little swim day at my place. My, my sister, the little shop and she's looking at the Melbourne show beach hat. No, I, I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beach hat. I went to the beachs. We went out to domain Chelsea, the little shop and she's looking at the Melbourne show, a beach hat. No, I walked by and I said, oh, there's Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Didn't go in though. It's not your thing. No, no, you put off more of like a Strixon vibe. Yeah, I'm a Strixon kind of guy. You put up. I want you to show up to play golf next time. Like wearing like a hud decky like full like just like 40 sponsors all over the shit. Just tricks on. I don't know why you'd be sponsored. You could put our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I don't have any golf sponsors. I need to work on that. It was a lovely weekend. I'm we did. It was pretty low key. I got a big one coming up leaving town and I'll talk about that on Wednesday. This guy's got a big one coming up. Talk about that on Wednesday, Davey. What about you, big dog? Well. I lost steak this weekend. Oh, shit. Oh, you order H.E.B.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Pick up on your groceries. Here's the deal. They're going to make some mistakes from time to time. They gave us like a bonus ribeye. Okay. Is this a good mistake? And, um, yeah, it was. And basically if they screw up your order, they're not going to come by or have you drop it off.
Starting point is 00:16:18 They're going to say, keep it. It's yours. If they give you the wrong groceries, they're yours, right? They can't take them back. So, excuse me. I hope that wasn't audible. That was gross. We got a couple of fillets and then they just threw in like a ribeye. Like, okay. So we did some fillets Friday. My wife left me to go to Bunko, as she will do from time to time. Hey, have fun with your friends. Must be nice with your friends.
Starting point is 00:16:46 No, that's cool. I caught up on Love Island USA. I'm not all the way caught up. No, no, no. I'm through nine. I'm in the process and I'm hoping I'm hoping now that a puck and ball are done with. I've got more time to catch up like in the next three days, I can be all the way caught up. And I need to do it, man, because, uh, the timeline's really popping
Starting point is 00:17:10 off at love Island, USA stuff. And I'm, I've seen some spoilers. Um, I've got an idea where it's going, but that's fine. I'm telling you, man, I don't know if you're sticking with it or if y'all are even trying it, but it, it has been a delight. I watched the entire first episode, the two hour one. You could just fast forward through the first 30 minutes of like the stupid intro and the dances. You really can't.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, I'm having a really hard time getting Chelsea on board. She is not into it, which is disappointing. So I know the initial characters, and I guess it brought in two people actually during the first episode, but beyond that I'm lost. It's, my favorite part is, and this happened with UK, the times we watched it, it's when you start to get the boys really clicking
Starting point is 00:17:56 and like really, really supporting each other and gassing each other up. It's very nice, positive male interaction, which I know it's not gonna be like this for long But when you get it, it's a beautiful thing Especially if you're on the wrong side of 35 and you're watching it and you're like, oh, yeah This is what male friendship looks like. It's great And I'm right there now. I can kind of feel it starting to turn for some but all in all man
Starting point is 00:18:20 It's been a it's been a delight. I highly recommend it. It's my first time doing a Love Island USA product. So it's more relatable, because I can kind of tell, with UK, we were talking about this this morning with Will, there's some context that we don't have, maybe just customs, slang, things like that. So it's a little bit hard to tell completely about a person and how they talk and stuff. With With USA it's like you got a good sense, you know, because these are
Starting point is 00:18:48 people that, you know, they could be listeners, they're in the demographic and it's very, it's very fun. So I recommend it. I know it's a lot. Just pop around, mess around, maybe watch it like I watch Mad Men. Just watch like the most recent episode and pop back five. Just no, no need to do an order. Who cares? Saturday got up. Baby boy, baby boy Sammy, a little under the weather. Wasn't feeling good. Had a little trouble keeping stuff down. So I was in charge of our oldest roadie boy and we decided like, Hey, let's go, uh, let's go have a day. I took them to pins.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I think that's been mentioned on this show. I brought it up last week. Yeah. Um, it is a new ish place in town. It is like a entertainment place for kids and adults alike. They have a bar, they have food, they have like 17 or 18 mini bowling alleys and mini pins and mini bowling balls.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I posted something at DC rough on Instagram. We did a little bowling. Just gonna keep it real with you. My four year old's, a terrible bowler. Doesn't get it. He's having to go, you know, do it granny styles, tough. He had a blast. Absolute blast.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Um, we should link up sometime. It's fun. And like, I'd heard like this place has a lot of hype. So we went right when it opened at noon and we got there and there Was like one birthday party there. We had the place almost to ourselves and they've got arcade games, which are free The arcade games are free. So if you want to be a real cheapskate Just show up with your kid and just go play arcade games and leave spend zero dollars We didn't do that, but you could we thought about it it. The pinball machines, you got to get quarters.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I will say they have an ATM there, a $3 fee, because I was unprepared, didn't have cash and then you got to go get quarters. And we did a little pinball. They've got a ton of pinball machines. I think pinball kind of sucks, but it's also like, it does kind of kind of fun if you're a kid, because you get to see like the stuff light up. But like, if you're an adult, like there's really no payoff. You don't win anything three minutes in a pinball. I'm like, what? I could
Starting point is 00:21:10 be doing something, but yeah, more entertaining. That's exactly how I felt Randy. And I had like $5 worth of quarters. And I was like, well, I'm not going to go home with a bunch of quarters. So we're going to sit here and play pinball. Uh, did the claw machine got his first, uh, he learned a hard lesson in the claw machine that is basically impossible. It learned a hard lesson in the claw machine. It's basically impossible. It's freaking rigged.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He was like, dad, I want to do it again. I was like, man, we're just not doing it again. I was like, buddy, this is like one of those things. They got a bunch of Mario stuffed animals in there. Stuff Mario. That'll do it. He saw that and it's like, we're going to, we're going to spend some time here. Uh, but it was great, man.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I had a little mid afternoon Guinness. Where do you think we go after there? After a mid afternoon Guinness, I think maybe go to a pool. About the mall. Oh, ho ho. Get a drink for Rose at the Twisted Cork. A little kitty cocktail. We did a little Uh, little kitty cocktail. We did a little, uh, uh, we did a little shoe shopping for him. Oh, we went straight to the mall. You get some J's? Uh, no, I could send a pic to Randy. In fact, I will.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Cause I think I'm actually pretty proud. And I was like, regretting it as we're walking through the mall. I'm like, God, he's going to want like the dumbest looking pair. There was like a pair of gold, like Air Max that caught his eye, like adult ones. And he was, I was like, buddy, those are adult shoes. You can't wear those. And he's like, dad, I want you to get those. And I was like, man, I really appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I just don't really have it like that. You do code it. You could pull them off, Dave. They were just like blatant. They looked like the Michael Johnson, Dave. They were just like blatant. They looked like the Michael Johnson Olympic shoes. They were just blatantly gold. They weren't, they were terrible. Randy, if you could pull that up, I'm going to show you.
Starting point is 00:22:53 You're going to, I think Dylan, I think you'll appreciate what. Let's see. Let's see what you got here. Zoom in on them, on them kicks. Oh, he's so proud. Oh yeah. He hit him with the newbies. Oh, he got the new dude. He paid, he's so proud. Oh yeah. He hit him with the newbies. Oh, he got the newbs.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Dude, he pointed those out. He pointed those out. And I was like, he's got style, dog. I want the record to reflect. I did not force the new balance on my son. And he tried them on, they fit. He ran around the store. His biggest, the only thing, the only criteria he had,
Starting point is 00:23:20 he's like, dad, I want fast shoes. I want the fastest shoes. I was like, I think you got him, dude. He knows what he's doing. He parks you to say the same thing. He tried them on and like, dad, I want fast shoes. I want the fastest shoes. I was like, I think you got him. He knows what he's doing. He tried to say the same thing. He tried them on and like, that was it. I was like, all right, we're getting the hell out of here. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So we were in and out. We were in and out of the mall. We even walked by the pink bear at the mall and he totally didn't even notice. I was like, thank God. You just wanted to put those johns on. And he did put them on as soon as he got home. I had to fight with him a little bit cause he wanted to wear them out of the store. And I was like, just don't wear them out of the store.
Starting point is 00:23:48 No, that's a, that's a NARP move. That's a NARP, I've done that move as a kid. I totally remember doing that. Yeah, and then Sunday we did hit the pool, Randy. Sunday was a full day. If you're watching on youtube.com slash circling back, which a lot of you are, you're probably like, damn Dave looks, he got a little sun kissed. And yeah, that's where I got
Starting point is 00:24:08 it. It was at the pool yesterday. Still, I will mow the lawn yesterday. Look at you, dude. I had a little red stripe afterwards on your dad's shit fired up that ribeye, cut it up, made like a an impromptu. I was like, man, we either got to freeze this ribeye or cook it tonight. And we did it, a little pasta, did a little, uh, little garlic, olive oil, red pepper flakes, uh, sauce in my steel pan. I'm a steel pan guy now. S T E L E L two E's. It was just delightful and caught up on love Island. Watch the little game seven.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Um, it a damn shame. Sorry about Halliburton. That's real tough for any sucks. It really sucks. Randy was saying it's an asterisk next to the thunder championship. I'm not sure if I'm there yet on the asterisk, but like Randy was saying it. I did not watch. You had a game seven.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I forgot. That's so sorry. Literally when I remembered there was 20 seconds left and then I turned the game. Game at that point. It was just a them celebrating. I'm like, okay. Well, I guess the, what did you do? Give us your weekend.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Oh, I had a, I had a weekend here. I'm sending a picture to myself as well. So to start off Friday, I got out of here and, uh, I don't know if you heard about this. I was looking for a tree. I was looking for a downed dead tree and I had called a bunch of places to, uh, find something cause I might be doing a little art project here. I'll show you what I'm going for here.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So I want to build something like this, uh, in my, my new place, which is kind of like a dead tree and like it's a shelving unit type of situation. Right. So I had to go 30 minutes out and, uh, to a big old brush pile. And I was just to a ranch that was 30 minutes out and I just went through a bunch of dead trees. And so I contacted the owner of this property. I contacted, uh, like Austin parks and rec to figure out how things were disposed of the trees. And then they said, contact the landfill. Then landfill said, contact like this other place. Other place said, I don't know, contact the contractors that usually do this stuff. And the contractor said, well,
Starting point is 00:26:22 this is where I dump this random, uh, Brent, like a ranch. So, you know what, Randy, that's kind of cool. I want to make sure I didn't go into the forest and just take anything out of there. Cause you know, that's illegal. You're not supposed to. So I did my due diligence. So did that put in the Chevy Malibu.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Uh, so it got all that stuff. So that will be a future project. Thank you. That really sets the good shot. I can really tell the, how the whole thing looks. So it got all that stuff. So that will be a future project. Thank you. Thank you. That really sets the stage. Good shot. I can really tell how the whole thing looks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah. I want to see. You can see like these just, I mean, I haven't started yet. I need a deep bark everything. So that was a- He's got to deep bark it. You understand? Yeah, he got to take the bark off.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So that's just sitting on my balcony for now. But then, uh, that was pretty much Friday. And then I started a different project, uh, that I was building on my balcony on Sunday, a box, a box for a planter box that I'm going to hang inside my place for my Pothos finds that like, uh, hang down. So there's a lot of, a lot of, uh, do it yourself type stuff this weekend. I did hit the pool, got a little sun kissed myself, but it was a lot of trips to Home Depot, a lot of, uh, a lot of just doing shit, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:36 man shit building things, you know. Or saving less doing. I'm excited to see how it turns out my friend. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck, bud. I am too. I started watching Batman Begins too. I think I might do a whole rewatch of the Dark Knight trilogy. Okay. Good for you. Is there a new one coming out? No. You're prepping for? No.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Okay. I mean, that trilogy is done. Just had nothing else to watch. I'm interested in this tree, cause the one you showed the inspiration one, like you're never gonna be able to recreate that. Like that's like the, it almost looks AI, the way that tree is. Well, there's multiple ones.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I have like specifically how I'm gonna do it. Like it's gonna be, it's gonna look good, I hope. It's gonna look good. I have faith in that. But that will probably not be finished for another two months. Okay. Well, we're excited to see how it turns out, bud.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I thought you were going to build something else. You were sending me that bike, that stationary bike that you've been looking at. The reference photos from Bruno. Yeah. Yeah. Are you not building that anymore? That's on the, that's, you know, a little bit lower down. I need to, I'm still moving in. So you have one project or two projects
Starting point is 00:28:49 at a time. Exactly. Okay. Once you grab, go tap on our special guest shoulder or just shoot him a text. I'll shoot him a text. And I'll talk about our good friends over at Rollback. But before I do that, I want to say thank you to Casey Smith. What a guest she is. Did I save it? I saved it. Yeah, she knows a lot about this. Karen Reed stuff, not Roebuck. She probably knows a lot about them too.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But thank you to her and Barstool Sports. I love Dylan. Dylan, my favorite part of the interview is when you're like, what do you work here? What did you say? You plug, you're like, what, what do you work? Or what did you say you plug? You're like, plug the bar still thing. It's such a huge thing that it feels so funny to us to talk about what they do, you know, and I thought that was a proper, it was proper. She's a delight. And I'm sure we, when she comes down here, when they come down to
Starting point is 00:29:40 San Marcos or whatever for a game, we'll be there. Okay. And I'll be there wearing rollback most likely. You need to toss it to her. You guys, you haven't tossed it to her yet. Let's toss it over to Casey Smith. Casey Smith, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the show, Casey. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here, especially under these circumstances.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I know. I'm honored. Last time we had you on, were you already like enthralled in the whole Karen Reed situation? I don't remember the timeline of when that documentary came out or how that all started. I don't remember when the last time I was on, but I think it was before the second trial started because I don't know if I would have worked you guys in if the second trial was going, I wouldn't have had time. I was watching court all day, every day.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah. We, uh, we were totally oblivious to the whole story. So we didn't, had we known and had we been in on it and known that you were also in on it, we would have just drilled you with questions about it because we, we, we caught the fever over here. It finally made its way down to Texas. It is insane. The, like how it was obviously
Starting point is 00:30:46 very regional in Boston and I know we'll talk about all of that but then how all of a sudden it exploded because of the HBO documentary. But I, first of all, and Brett said this perfectly, Brett was like, boy, do you need football season. I was like more than anything because I got so obsessed with it that I was like I have to put
Starting point is 00:31:02 my focus on something else but I couldn't. I couldn't turn away. It was so electric. I watched every episode in one day. I couldn't just couldn't stop. Dylan watched every episode one day, came in on Monday, just broke it down on the pod. Rather well, I have to add, like a really good job of that. And I was like, okay, you know, I'd seen, I'd seen some of you talking about it.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I've seen some of the Barstool people talking about it and I just have avoided it just because it was so regional or it felt regional. And then I got in on it. And the funniest thing is that we are notoriously late on things, but here's the thing. This makes sense. This checks out. We were extremely late to our friends in the Northeast, but there There's a number of commenters who've said, I didn't know this was going on. Thank y'all for filling me in on this.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And so it's like, we're kind of both sides of the aisle on that. You got to show the t-shirt by the way. Free Karen. I had to wear it. I thought it was going to be in retirement because obviously she's freed, but it was really funny when, so obviously Lauren, every time I'm on the podcast, I gotta give shout out to Lauren Clary.
Starting point is 00:32:08 She was up in New York, I wanna say in February, and I told her about it because obviously from my time working in Boston, I followed a lot of Boston people. So back before the first trial, I knew about it. So I told her and then she went and listened to the podcast, listened to, obviously watched the documentary, then she spread it and that's how you guys found it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So she's spreading the good word down in Texas. So maybe it's not completely all fault that you're late. It just haven't gotten down there yet. Yeah, we were, we were so late that when I had finally finished the documentary and that's when I realized that it was a mistrial and I was like, okay, well, what the hell is going on? I looked up what was going on currently and I was like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Not only has there been a second trial where they're currently deliberating. Like that's when I stopped watching. It's like, wow, during deliberation. So I missed the entire second trial. And obviously Dave did too. What do we need to know about the second trial since we haven't been paying attention to that part of it? Like what, are there any like big revelations?
Starting point is 00:33:04 It was better for the defense this time around because she got acquitted of everything. since we haven't been paying attention to that part of it? Like what, are there any big revelations? Better. It was better for the defense this time around because she got acquitted of everything. But it's like the most expensive, essentially DWI. I know it's an OUI in Massachusetts, but DWI. The biggest difference that I noticed, and by the way, I know I was joking about what Brett said, but it is true. Had this been a football season,
Starting point is 00:33:21 I wouldn't have been able to be tuned in. I had it on my phone or my laptop or my TV almost at all times. And if I missed it because I was taking care of my two year old, I would watch it at night. I would watch it over the weekend. Like I was so locked in because they had the live stream. So I thought that was very cool too, because you could just basically watch all day, every day. The biggest difference I will say, and there's so many different things that went on, but in the first trial, they really tried to focus on the conspiracy, which I believe is what happened. Something
Starting point is 00:33:48 happened in the house. They really tried with the second trial. They still used that, but they more focused on the actual science of his injuries. You know, they had somebody come in and show the x-rays of like, if he got hit by a car, his arm will be broken. See, there's no fractures. There's no breaks. Then they would have people come in and talk about the you know, the dog scratches the dogwood. So they really kind of focused more on that than just the conspiracy theory itself. And there was also a difference to and just they knew what didn't work the first time they knew what works the second time. And
Starting point is 00:34:18 the prosecution just could not prove without a reasonable doubt that this happened. That's the biggest thing to when I say, I don't think she did it, I truly think she's innocent. There's also the people that say, well, she's not guilty because they couldn't prove it with a reasonable doubt or without a reasonable doubt. So that's kind of where you go back and forth. But the defense to me did such a good job on at least planting that to the jury. A new prosecutor the second time around. Yeah, he stinks. Well, the guy in the first one was just a total chud. He had no juice whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:34:46 This guy was even more of a chud. Really? Yes. Okay. This guy's name is Hank Brennan, big chud. The one highlight I did see from trial number two, Hank Brennan, I guess his name, he gave his closing statement and he said, although we don't know how he actually died, we have a pretty good idea. What kind of line is that to say in a closing statement of a murder trial?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Not good. So that's so terrible. Some would say it's the worst thing you could say if you're trying to get a jury to convict somebody of murder. And that's the thing too. And I mean, obviously the internet is going to be the internet and everyone's going to argue regardless of if you think she actually hit him or not, the whole point of this in America right now is to prove without a reasonable
Starting point is 00:35:30 doubt. There was nothing that the prosecution did to prove that because they don't even know how it happened. And you know, you can talk about the conspiracy theories and all that, but at the end of the day they didn't prove shit and they know that. Do you have your own personal theory about how he died? Have you come up with like, Okay, I do. Okay. Well, there's all these things too, like every
Starting point is 00:35:53 time that I get into, you know, why I wouldn't have proven or said she was guilty. I think that he went into the house, I would think he went into the garage. I don't think he ever actually went into the house. I think that it was not on purpose. I don't think that there was something that they're like, we're gonna kill John O'Keefe. I think he went into the garage. I don't think he ever actually went into the house. I think that it was not on purpose. I don't think that there was something that they were like, we're going to kill John O'Keefe. I think something, an accident happened, whether it was with the Albert's son, which there's some drug situation involved with that, whether it was, you know, just them being shitfaced drunk and something happened, he fell back hit his head. And I think the kids were
Starting point is 00:36:20 involved to a certain degree. And the parents were like, kids leave because there's a lot of, you know, talk about where the kids were and you know calling Albert leaving the house and all that and that they were like oh my god we have to cover this up because if anybody's going to cover anything up it's going to be the police department especially in Boston that's another thing too with this is that the Boston police have such a reputation as it is and like Hollywood couldn't have scripted this right like this is exactly what kind of drew everybody in so I think it Hey, we're just going to act like nothing happens. And the biggest thing that I have, and I don't know if you guys have seen all of the, you know, the Alberts and
Starting point is 00:36:52 the McCaves and all that, who have talked to after the fact, the fact that it's a police officer who lived in that house, who didn't see, didn't hear, and I put an air quotes, all the melee going on outside and decided, Hey, I'm not going to go outside. And he said, I didn't want, didn't hear, and I put an air quotes, all the melee going on outside and decided, Hey, I'm not going to go outside. And he said, I didn't want to run outside in my underwear. Miss me with that. They didn't hear or see anything. But it was like, you guys aren't even trying to prove that nothing happened inside that house. So you're just trying to say it because you think that just because
Starting point is 00:37:20 your cops are untouchable. So I think that's what happened. I don't think it was a purposeful thing. You know, there's people saying that, you know, Brian Higgins wanted to fight him over Karen, but I don't think that, I think it was an accident that they covered up and she was a state goat and they didn't even try to cover it up correctly, like at least try to lie. That's pretty much exactly what I said. I, my, my theory, which I shared last week, uh, on the pod was he went in there.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Something went terribly wrong. I don't know. The dog was involved or there was a fist in there, something went terribly wrong. I don't know, the dog was involved or there was a fist fight and he got out of hand and he was very badly hurt. Obviously. Um, she left, Karen left, didn't know what was going on and he died. And they're like, oh shit. Okay. We're cops.
Starting point is 00:38:01 We can find a way to fix all this. Right. Okay. We're cops. We can find a way to fix all this. Right. Also the, the area of the yard in which he finally died, which during the documentary that they didn't make a big deal out of like where he was, but he was nowhere near the driveway.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Right. Nope. Um, and I think if she were to run over him in that area of the yard, there, there would have been more proof of like, I know that snow covers up tire tracks and all that, but some kind of evidence that a car was in the yard somehow, uh, there was not a big deal made about where it was in the yard that he, that he was found, which I thought was kind of odd. They talked a lot about it being in front of the flagpole because, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:40 Jen McCabe had said she'd seen Karen's car there, but then there were other cars who said they saw Karen sitting in the front seat and nobody in the passenger because you know, Jen McCabe had said she'd seen Karen's car there. But then there were other cars who said they saw Karen sitting in the front seat, nobody in the passenger seat. It all became hearsay. And like I said, regardless of you think she did it or not, you can't prove any of this. So it's like you couldn't have ever proven her guilty. But the I said this too, it's like, okay, like say any of our houses, right? If you're asleep in your house, and the cops come and there's a dead person on your lawn, regardless of you know them or not, they're knocking on your door, they're asleep in your house and the cops come and there's a dead person on your lawn, regardless of you know them or not, they're knocking on your door.
Starting point is 00:39:07 They're coming in and they're being like, Hey, there's a dead on your front lawn. Like what happened? The fact that none of that ever happens. Now all the pictures from inside the house are coming out, like how close that view actually is to their master bedroom. It's like you can't sit here and tell me that he just didn't want to go outside of his underwear. And then at the same time saying, I take a bullet for John O'Keefe. Like it's just, it's all so stupid to me. It's like,
Starting point is 00:39:29 anybody with a brain can be like, this just doesn't make sense. No pictures were taken. Nobody knocked on the door. By the way, his sister-in-law was outside in the front lawn and she didn't go knock on the door. Like this is, it's just too weird. Too weird. All that combined with how sketchy everyone from inside the house handled, like the phone, you know, dumping the phone and all that it's they know much more, much more than, than they're letting on. For sure.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And that was another thing too, in this, in this trial, they showed a lot of footage from the waterfall, which they did in the first one too, but they showed just even like the body language and like, you know, when you're out with your boys, you know, you're drinking, you're kind of, you know, messing around. There was like a lot of weird moments with some of, you know, with Brian Higgins and Brian Alpert, like looking over at John and John not really reacting. There was just a lot of weird body language that could lead you to believe everyone's shit face. Everyone goes back. He might not have even gone into the house. That might be true.
Starting point is 00:40:25 He might've just gone into the garage, but there was just something about that night that was just so weird from the beginning and the fact that those calls were made at like five o'clock in the morning, six o'clock in the morning. And they were quote deleted. Like it's just, it's, it's really Hollywood couldn't script it. Truly. Have you seen the theory that this, this group, they're all swingers? I've seen a little bit, but do you like, I haven't seen enough to really know.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Tell me. And I, they're swinging. So I don't know really. I mean, someone floated out that they are swingers. And that's why when, when Karen and John pulled up to the house, she was like, I don't know if I want to go in. I don't know if I want to go in, I don't know for, you know, the whole thing. And that's like when she called and left voicemails after he was missing, like you're a fucking pervert.
Starting point is 00:41:09 All this stuff. Who not me? It's a theory. Who knows what is actually going on in there, but that, and I don't know what that, what that says about the situation. I don't know. There, there was no sign of upside down pineapples.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah, there's no pineapple on the front lawn. You know, I mean, all this is speculation. Yeah. But you know, and they didn't send pineapple emojis either, which I guess they could have been deleted. That's true. Yeah. It was interesting though, because I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:37 in that I could totally buy that. The way that they all became like one group afterwards too, it's like, again, you guys aren't even trying to dispel the rumors that this is a conspiracy. Like all of you guys got together to try to hide something. But I did laugh because it was so uncomfortable. They did it in the first trial. They did the second trial reading the text messages between, you know, Brian Higgins, the other cop and, and Karen. And it's like, you're hot. Like it was just like, I can't like I had secondhand embarrassment the whole time. I was like, what you are hot. And I'm like, these are like grown ass people.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Did seem like she was more of the aggressor in that flirt that back and forth flirtation. He couldn't believe it. He was like, I remember right. He's like, really? Me? I equate a bit. Yeah, I'm hot. He kept he kept kind of like trying to get her to like actually say what she meant, because I don't think he ever Like truly wanted to buy it But the whole thing with that to me is and again they they talked about this a lot in the trial too
Starting point is 00:42:30 Is that he's texting her while they're all at the same bar that night being like really um and it's like yeah He's he's but hurt because she's here with her boyfriend who is much hotter than him and he she's not giving him this attention But it's just like these are you know, 40 and 50 year old people They're acting like high school kids in these I really obviously don't think she did it. I think she's innocent but they're all just like drunk crazy people Yeah at the end of the day like every single one of them her included Yeah, that's what it's part of the entertainment process Which is sad because somebody did actually lose his life
Starting point is 00:43:02 But I do feel bad for the O'Keeffe family because they don't, you know, they haven't had justice served. But at the end of the day, I had to remind myself somebody actually died here. Like this isn't just like a TV show that I'm watching because that's what it felt like half the time. A proper investigation. They would have honed in on one of the, one of the people inside of the house. And they would have gotten somebody to flip, like they would have gotten somebody to talk. They would have gotten somebody to talk because up until this point, if you watch them testify, I only watched
Starting point is 00:43:29 the doc, right? And I think I told you this, I was like, man, they all testify very well and they don't seem like they're hiding something overtly, right? Now all the other evidence around it, it's like, okay, they probably are. But, um, I feel like that the proper investigation, you would have pitted people against each other that were inside of the house and you would have eventually gotten someone to flip, um, like, you know, taking a deal or something. So from here, where do we go?
Starting point is 00:43:56 Does this go to the federal level? I read, I thought I saw something on tick, not tick somewhere that there might be a fed investigation into the local PD, the Boston PD, or maybe the local department there based upon the corruption. Oh, Casey, are you aware of the, uh, the young lady who died in Canton a couple of years back, there's another investigation. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I don't know if it's in trial. Yes. Yes. Originally it was ruled, uh, suicide by asphyxiation, hung herself or something, but that's been, I guess, ruled out at this point. I don't know much about it, but I know that in trial number two, they were trying to like insert that one into this to add to the whole conspiracy thing. And I think the judge shut that down or something.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah. So that one actually, so we have a guy that you probably know who Kirk Mendehan is. I'm not sure he works in Marshall. He has a show called the case. And he actually did a lot with the Sandra Burchmore situation. And I mean, again, it talks, not all police are corrupt, but there are a lot of police that are corrupt. And they're that same guy who was involved with that, you know, looking at the text messages and the Karen Reed case, but what was weird to me, and I don't know, I can't pretend to be a lawyer. I can't pretend to know all the details, but they couldn't bring that up. They also, the FBI was involved
Starting point is 00:45:12 in this. The FBI did some sort of investigation. They had private investigators and the entire time in the second here or the second trial, they had to say another, they couldn't say the FBI, they had to say, you know, a different investigator, different group. They could never use the word FBI because the judge wouldn't allow it, which was crazy to me because they would bring up certain things like you just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:45:34 and it would be shut down. And it's like, if you are actually wanting to present all the facts to a jury, why would these things not be allowed? Because it does tell this story. So throughout it, like they had one of the female cops who was a rookie cop who had seen, you know, inside the Sally port inside the garage, people messing with the tail light, she testified to that. And then afterwards that, oh, I must have misremembered. And they're like, you didn't misremember anything. Like
Starting point is 00:45:57 you're now taking it back because somebody inside the police department moved you to the Boston PD away from the Canton P. So all these different things that the FBI had figured out wouldn't, they weren't allowed to talk about it in court. How does that make sense? You know, like, what are we doing here? So again, it just, Mark Wahlberg couldn't start a movie. This. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Like that's how, like that's really how it's like the details of this are so insane when you actually lay them out. That's what grabbed me. It felt like every episode I watched of this documentary, the end of it had some just wild cliffhanger. The information that kept coming to life was like, holy shit, what is going on here? The whole thing just stinks. It really does.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It stinks. But I don't know what you can do, right? You can't go back and investigate the house. They don't even own the house anymore. You can't go back and take photos of everything because they ripped up all the carpet. They, you know, the dog got quote re homes, like all the evidence that would have been there was never taken. I mean, they were taking his blood out of the snow in solo cups. Like what are we talking about here? So I don't know what you can do. Um, but just every, you know, Brian Higgins
Starting point is 00:47:02 being at the police department at 2am that night, throwing away his SIM card. I mean, everything just breaks. It's like, obviously something else happened, but I don't know how you go back and do anything because they can't prove shit now. Yeah. Totally agree. Yeah. Totally agree.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Not the guys that know you were coming to my tent. I could talk about this forever. This is why we had you on. You are so in on this and, uh, this and yeah, you filled in some gaps for me even though I watched the whole documentary. So same. I need football so bad. When Brett texted me that,
Starting point is 00:47:31 cause I was like so excited cause Dylan, I saw you tweeting about it. I was like, Oh my God. And I texted Brett and he was like, Casey, I love you. I mean this with all due respect. You need football so badly. And you're right. You're so right.
Starting point is 00:47:44 But it really like, I I just I found it so interesting from from start to finish. But I do have to remind myself somebody died and I do feel very badly for their family and I hope that there is some sort of justice served. But at the end of the day, it just I really fall into that cliche white girl true crime thing with this, I guess. I'm all in. I've never I know the true crime podcasts are like a very big genre. I've never been in on them, but I understand now, like how people get so just sucked into this stuff and they want to, they want to find out more. You mentioned college football.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I want to give you a chance to promote your show. Do you have any fun stops coming up? Tell us about the traveling show that you guys do and if you have any fun stops planned already. I know it's kind of early, but talk about that for a minute. Well, it's that time of year and you guys know this too, obviously being in Texas where everybody is craving college football, but nothing is happening. Like I always say like June 1st to like middle of July, it's like the slowest time possible. So right now is when we start to ramp up those plans in true Barstool sports form, which you you know, Brett was here. He would agree with us. We haven't planned. And okay, okay. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:50 We know how many stops we're going to have, um, from like a sales standpoint, but this is when we really started looking at things. One of the things that we really want to do. So if you're in a place listening to this, that we haven't come yet, we want to go to a lot of new places. Cause we found that like when we frequent places like LSU, for example, they're always excited. They always show up, but it's not the same pop as like when we went to Ole Miss last year, because we'd never been there before. So we're going to try to look at more of those types of places. I really, really want to come to Texas.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I was going to say, have you guys University of Texas. Okay. I want to come to the state of Texas. Have you guys done Austin yet at all? We have not. We did the Red River shootout last year, which was great. We were on the fairgrounds. It was like a thousand degrees. And that was really cool. But obviously, neutral side games,
Starting point is 00:49:33 I mean, that's a different type of neutral side because everyone's going to show up. It doesn't hit the exact same because you want to go on campus. We were thinking about doing A&M Texas last year, but we obviously did not. So that's kind of we've never to A&M, which is crazy. This is like our eighth season doing this. We did an A&M game at Clemson one year.
Starting point is 00:49:50 But we want to go to places we've never been. The only issue is that we can't talk about gambling in a lot of states because you can't gamble there. So we'll see. Yep. But it's all up in the air still. Cause again, it's true. Barstool.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I was going to say there's a, there there's a there's a game in late November in Austin that you might be interested in and Coming to you know, I don't know if what the University of Texas thinks about us That's another thing too that like some schools don't let us anywhere near campus. I don't know how Texas would feel about us But if we if we go we like to obviously be close to the football stadium. So if they would let us close, I'd be down with it. I would just have to, you know, have extra security there. I'm sure. Yeah. Well, because of where, because of where the Texas campus is and where the football is, it's a lot of it is just city. So I mean, some of that's not,
Starting point is 00:50:39 you probably could find a place that's not even on campus. It's really close if I had to guess, but anyway, that'd be fun. Why don't y'all look at, uh, I'm serious. That this, this might get laughed out of the gym by some, uh, we got Texas state down at, uh, UTSA. That's a, that's a rivalry. I'm serious. It's y'all were just in San Antonio, right?
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yes. I mean, we, we love doing smaller schools. So, I mean, we did a Mac, we did a Mac tour. It's been a few seasons ago. I think I was pregnant. So it's been three seasons ago, two seasons ago, we we love doing smaller schools. So I mean, we did a Mac. We did a Mac tour. It's been a few seasons ago. I think I was pregnant. So it's been three seasons ago, two seasons ago. But we did like a Monday night game, a Tuesday night game or Wednesday night game, whatever, no Tuesday and Wednesday, obviously.
Starting point is 00:51:14 And it was so much fun because again, we had never been to these schools before. And it was amazing. So I mean, I think at this point, like we don't follow the biggest games of the week. We don't do what game day does or Fox news. Sometimes they do align, but we like to go to different places. So I don't hate it. The two thing is if I did anything in Texas like that, I'd want to float the river. I'd want to go, you know, have all my text max. I wouldn't be able to do it. L Royals waiting for you. No, no. L L O R O slander. You people, I'm actually
Starting point is 00:51:45 I was laughing with with Brett. I was like, you have to understand that the next time I come to Austin, it'll probably be next year at this point. But I'm making them go to El Lloro with me like you guys. I mean, I'll give you a chance to win me back over. Yeah, we'll give it a shot during our business. That's right. To be to be fair, I haven't been back since like 2019.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So I don't know if it's as good as I remember By the point nostalgia, you know, of course, of course But yeah, what's no what's the place in the mall? You guys are gonna take me the twisted court. Yeah, all kiosk bar. Yeah TC What you guys need though is for me to me to get back into football or even like the Idaho case is coming up Cuz right now all I do is still talk about Karen Reed and you guys don't need that in your life. You have other things going on. That's all I want to talk about. Obviously. We'll talk a little care and read with you. There'll be, there'll be development.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So I got a feeling we heard the last of all, it's not, it's not Karen and Co. The book's not closed on Karen Reed. No, no, they, the prosecution came out and had like a sore loser statement. I'm just like, can, can we get a podcast or something? Karen, take all my money. Take all my money. I would listen. She's going to start making the rounds. Has she signed with anybody like any agencies or anything? Not that I've heard of. So the guy, Turtle Boy, Dr. Turtle Boy, who obviously kind of like blew the lid off of this publicly, like he, I've known Turtle Boy for years. I asked him the other day, I was like, so podcast book. And he was like, I mean, she's got stuff in the works
Starting point is 00:53:08 and like she has to strike while the iron's hot. Like right now is when everybody wants to talk about it. Turtle boy. Turtle boy. Aiden, but he, but I just, you know, I figured, hey, like, could we like, you guys should get an interview with her. Try, you know, like at this point, like why not? Yeah, she's going to end up on talk to a, you know, honestly, I bet she would love the twisted court.
Starting point is 00:53:30 You know, that woman. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. They're going to shut it down. I said I was like, regardless of what you think if she did it on, you know, she loves to party. Like, can I be best friends with her? Could we go to get some margaritas at El Royo? She'd probably be down. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah. We'll see you down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see you there. Yeah. We'll see you there. All right, Casey. Well, that wraps it up, I think. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:53:52 You've been awesome. Well, thank you guys. We appreciate you. I really appreciate the time to talk about my very, very sick and twisted obsession with this case. We're right there with you. So we have, yeah, we can't slander you at all. We appreciate you. And yeah, hopefully you, you make it,
Starting point is 00:54:06 you make it out to Austin at some point and we'll, we'll get some text max. Sounds good to me. Thanks guys. Thanks Casey. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Man, what a guest Casey's been. Thanks Casey. Casey Rock. Casey rules dude. That puts a bow on the this new hoodie by the way, got it last week. Blitz tech hoodie. I'm trying to get you in on it. You just refuse to get one. I don't know what the fuck your problem is. Full disclosure, Dylan's normally a pit stain guy, but not in this one.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I'm not a pit stain guy at all. Not in this at all. Let's see the pit. Pit stains in college. Man, they have, man, they're doing, they're doing all the different kinds of shorts. They have, Rainey's got some new Johns. I do, I have new Johns on.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Can you also turn up mic number four, please? Rainey's got some mess Johns on. They got some, I think they're called all day shorts, which I have two at the liner and they're fantastic. Swim trunks season is here. Of course, it's always polo season. They have everything you can imagine. Got that DFW polo.
Starting point is 00:55:16 They do. I wore I mowed the lawn in some row back shorts yesterday and I wore them to the gym this morning. How about that? Not to stomp, but I did. Washed 20 gets you 20% off at checkout is a one-time use code So don't be an idiot and just buy one thing you'll regret that load that card up on Here's an intro. I won't botch Will the freeze ladies and gentlemen hi, well gone well
Starting point is 00:55:43 Man it's going quite well. I must say, my friend. Hey, on Friday, Will, we all went to lunch to Postino, which, by the way, why is fucking great? It is a good what do we get panini's? You got panini's. I got a bowl, a bowl, steak bowl. But we all we we realized, like before we went, we were four for four on mustaches. And then we were talking, we were like, well, if we'll just shaved his beard and I did the
Starting point is 00:56:09 stash, it would look, it would be too much. That's too much. It's too much. Yeah. Breast shows up at the mustache Friday. Oh, great. Wow. We all have mustaches in here.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I've done it before and I I've immediately shaped it off every time. Cause it's not good. Like it's just not good. I wish it was good. It's not. I mean, it's good. It's jarring. Yeah, it's too bushy and big. It's like, it's just, it's, it's too much of a vibe that I don't really
Starting point is 00:56:31 totally fall in line with. I wish I, I don't mind having it with the beard this bushy, but I don't want to have. Like when it's standalone, it's just pretty imposing stuff. It is, but it would be too distracting to talk to you. But, um, well, you were out of town over the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, I went to a memorial this weekend. Thank you to all the anonymous Redditors
Starting point is 00:56:56 talking about taking a step back. You guys really know what you're talking about and it really feels good to check that. Anyway- Sorry for the loss. Yeah, no, it's okay. It's okay. Everyone loved Sally's grandma.
Starting point is 00:57:07 She passed away a few months ago and it was a great memorial. It was a great memorial. A celebration of life, if you will. Yes. And so I have a segment that I'd like to bring to the table right now. Does this tie into SB3?
Starting point is 00:57:22 No. Oh, okay. I thought you wanted to talk SB3 and your story. No, I don't have many thoughts on SB3 other No. Oh, okay. I thought you wanted to talk SB3 and your story. No, I don't have many thoughts on SB3 other than- Oh, my bad. Dan Patrick's a fucking dork. Yeah, fuck. Hey, fuck that guy.
Starting point is 00:57:32 He got dumped on? Man alert. He got stuff into a locker. He's in another press conference today, by the way. I can't wait for that one. It's bad enough that he hosted like the world's worst press event. This makes me so happy. And then he just gets yammed on on a Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Smoking weed, damn Patrick getting yammed on. Just like, I wanted this to get vetoed for other reasons, but that's just a cherry on top. Fuck that. Think of his face. Think of his face. Oh, he's so hateable. And then think of someone passing him a joint
Starting point is 00:57:58 and then him hitting it and then just coughing really hard. It would just be ugly. What a boner that guy is, man. Yeah. All right. You got a story to tell us. Let's hear it. All right. This is my segment called, how should I have handled this? Okay. How should we'll have handled this? So we get the memorial service was Friday morning. We decide that the whole family is going to go to this pool. We're staying at this condo place. I don't really know much about it. Okay. I'm just kind of along for the ride. You know, that the whole family is going to go to this pool. We're staying at this condo place.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I don't really know much about it. Okay. I'm just kind of along for the ride, you know? Sure. When you're on the family trip and you're the husband, you just kind of say yes to everything, show up, have a smile on your face, have some conversations and enjoy yourself.
Starting point is 00:58:38 So I'm swimming around the pool with my brother-in-law's hanging out with my cousin Brock, absolute dog. Oh yeah. He's a rising sophomore at a University of Arizona. His frat house looks absolutely sick. Oh yeah. He's just in the prime, he's just fucking living right now.
Starting point is 00:58:56 He's my guy, he's my guy. He needs a pod. Can we just do like a weekly call in check on Brock? Maybe, maybe, I don't know. Yeah, we'd have to talk to like, you know, him first, but yeah, he's my guy. And so I'm swimming around the pool. I have a frozen pina colada.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Fuck yes. Roll floater. You're in the pool. You got to. It's been way too long since I've had a- You got ready. I'm enjoying myself, you know, I'm enjoying myself. You know, there's kids everywhere.
Starting point is 00:59:23 It's going down the water slide. It's a good situation. And I'm talking to my mother-in-law. I got B-Rock next to me just hanging, but I'm talking to my mother-in-law. We're having a conversation. She's got her phone on the side of the pool. Something knocks into her phone. Phone goes in the pool.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Devastating stuff. You never want that to happen. As we all know, these new iPhones can go up to six feet under in the pool. Devastating stuff. You never want that to happen. As we all know, these new iPhones can go up to six feet under in the water and still be pretty okay. Yeah. But we're all coded. I have nightmares about it. I think about dropping my phone in the pool or falling into the water all the time with my phone in my pocket. Or in the case.
Starting point is 00:59:58 You never know. You never know. It could be live on Periscope and drop it in case. And so I tried to get it for her, but luckily for me, she snagged it almost immediately. She gets it out of the water, but you're frantic in that moment, right? And so my mother-in-law turns around
Starting point is 01:00:18 and she takes her phone and there's a towel hanging right behind her. And she decides to dry it off on the towel. She does one of these, showing you exactly what she does. It's already over. I'm guessing the towel did not belong to her. It's already over. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Exigent circumstances, you have to do it to her. Yeah. While she's drying it off in the brief seconds that she's doing it. And then she goes over to her chair to go assess the situation in the shade and figure this out. Next to me in the pool, this is this woman, she's wearing a white Adidas hat. She seems to be about, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:00:50 45 to 50 years old. Paint the picture because I'm ready to hate this person. She's, Dylan, I'm saying, when I say she's next to me in the pool, she is me to you in the pool. We're about as close as you can get. Have you all interacted at all? Not once. Okay. Not once. I mean, I'm on a high vibe train at this point. Yeah, you're going. Pina colada. You're sneaky going off.
Starting point is 01:01:09 We're having fun. And so, while my mother-in-law is drying off her phone for those three seconds, this woman turns back and says, oh yeah, just use our towel. Don't worry about us sitting here. We don't have the three cabanas sitting behind you. Come on. And I'm immediately like, whoa, okay. What the, all right. So they did have the three cabanas. They did have the three cabanas. That's kind of a scene. The cabanas, I will say, are not a part of the pool. They're on the other
Starting point is 01:01:36 side of the pool opening up to the beach. So I don't want to hear any ownership about the, being behind a cabana in the pool. Okay. I don't want to hear it. about the being behind a cabana in the pool. Okay, I don't wanna hear it. So I kind of look at the lady and I say to myself, and this is kind of out of pocket for me. I'm usually not very confrontational, but I kind of do a laughing. Let me see if I can get this right.
Starting point is 01:01:55 If I don't get it right, I'm gonna try it again until I get it right. Okay. I give her one of these. I mean, is it that big of a deal? That's good. That's a good tone. I mean, it's not aggressive, but it's like, really lady?
Starting point is 01:02:07 And then she says something about the towels and about, I don't know, like she says something and I don't really register it very well cause I'm kind of rattled in this moment. And then I say to her, and I'm gonna, again, if I don't get it right the first time, I'll do it until I get it right. I say to her, I mean, it's kind of annoying that she just dropped
Starting point is 01:02:28 her phone in the pool, like that kind of sucks. And I'm really just trying to, you know, exhibit some empathy here. I'm trying to defend my mother-in-law during a weekend where we're celebrating the life of her mother. The woman turns to me, Dylan, and she does this. I mean, like I said, we are this close to each other. She turns to me and she goes, why are you still talking to me?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Bye bye. Oh. In the face? She took her hands and she did a little bye bye right in my face. Oh my God. Had it been a guy, I think I would have slapped his hand
Starting point is 01:03:04 from outside of my face, but I wasn't gonna do that to a lady. And I probably wouldn't have slapped the guy's hand think I would have slapped his hand from outside of my face, but I wasn't going to do that to a lady. And I probably wouldn't have slapped the guy's hand because I'm scared of most guys. I noticed you, uh, you have a mullet again. Yeah. Did you have the mullet cut before this trip? I did, but I had a hat on in this moment too. Which hat? You remember? Yeah. Tree farm. Tech material hat. She knows I know ball. Yeah. She knows I know ball. Oh my God. If she were a man that,
Starting point is 01:03:27 that deserves a slap in the face. You're right. Or, or, or one of those videos of people fighting in a pool where no one can get a good rock and sock. Does she have anyone else in her click along with her? Okay. She does. She has a woman that's similar age to her. And then two kids, sorry, I missed that. 40 to four between who knows she could be 40? Sorry, I missed that. 40 to, or between, who knows? She could be 40, but she looked like, shit.
Starting point is 01:03:47 No, she didn't look that bad, but she was like 45 to 50. And she had another person who I think might've been a family member of hers around the same age. And then there were two kids there and then her husband was at the cabana. I decide in that moment that I, I am fuming. I've never had someone do a. Oh my God. Like a bye bye, just clapping her hands in my face. And so I decide to just eject myself from the pool. I get out, I go over to the shade, I towel off and we're already going to go for a walk on
Starting point is 01:04:20 the beach. But I really wanted to stay in that fucking pool and have it out with her. Um, you wanted the last word. I saw her. I did want the last word, Dave. And I'll get to that in a moment. Uh, I say, I see her husband get in the pool with her and this gentleman is probably six foot four, two 50, not jacked, but a sizable
Starting point is 01:04:41 man, a man of size, Dylan, man of size, absolute unit. He's wearing a swim Dylan. Man of size. Absolute unit. He's wearing a swim shirt. Did he have some questionable tattoos? I couldn't tell because he had a long sleeve tech material swim shirt on that just said Hulk on it. Not in like, not in like Marvel text,
Starting point is 01:04:56 but like just said Hulk. Was he wearing Oakley M frames by chance? He, you know. He's giving avid. I'll say this. I'll say this. Facebook avvy. Florida man has a, uh, uh, Florida man is a
Starting point is 01:05:06 thing online. Sure. We were dealing with Florida man and Florida woman. Okay. In this situation. So just seeing him, I was immediately like, well, I don't think I need to get the last word at this point because I think he'll beat my ass.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And I don't want to get sucker punched while ordering my second pina colada. Aside from your mother-in-law, who was there on your team? Brock. Just Brock. So the only exchange, and I don't want to get sucker punched while we're drinking my second pina colada. Aside from your mother-in-law, who was there on your team? Brock. And just Brock. So the only exchange, and I don't know if she heard this, but the only exchange that she could have possibly heard that would have been my last word was that I looked at, I looked at my cousin Brock and I said to him, I gave one of those laughs like, what a bitch.
Starting point is 01:05:43 She didn't hear me say that because if she did, I'm pretty sure she would have done something about it. But it was, it was just one of those situations where it's like, do I try to get the last word? Do I, do you negotiate with terrorists in this situation or do I just get away from her as soon as possible? You did the right thing. I, this is something I have trouble with. I, I, I don't like it. I don't like not having the last word. I have to have some kind of smart. That's not just a new thing. That's human nature. It's just, cause I'm getting like mad, like for you right now. Is your mother in law, I don't know if you want to say her name or not. Is she saying anything? No, she, she had already gone somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:06:19 And so she didn't witness any of this. She found out about this later that night at dinner. Someone had told her the story of what happened. Cause I just ended up going around the pool and slandering this woman's name to everybody I knew. Naturally. I think she appreciated the support, my mother-in-law. You know, there's that whole dynamic that trope of how mother-in-laws and son-in-laws don't get along.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I mean, we were thriving on this day. Oh yeah, that's a major bonding moment. Oh my God. I go for a walk on the beach, look for some shells, come back. Told that there's lightning within five miles, got to evacuate the pool. And so I'm walking by the cabanas.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I really want to get the last word in at this point. Like really, really want to get the last word in. Part of me, the leader in the clubhouse for what I was going to say when I walked by her was, Hey, don't forget your towel. Yeah. You got to go back to the towel. And instead I forbid your towel gets a little wet when it's by the pool, when it's hanging up on a, on a railing, uh, drying out in the sun, I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 01:07:24 the, uh, the few drops of water on that phone weren't going to linger too long. Now that towel's okay. I, I opted for something else that was more out of pocket, which was a middle finger. Oh, oh, luckily for me, she did not see this middle finger because as I gave it, she had one of those moments where you lock eyes with someone and you know,
Starting point is 01:07:50 like that, she knew who I was. She knew who I was this time. Yeah, you got beard. And she did the thing where you lock eyes with them and you go. Yeah, she- And you start doing something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And so as I started doing the middle finger and I held it up, she turned away and then my brother-in-law behind me just said, shop's fired. And we just evacuated the situation as it started to storm around the pool. People like that, you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they're having a terrible day or something, but it doesn't really matter because that is unforgivable behavior. What do you like? If I see anyone drop their phone in the water, the first thing I
Starting point is 01:08:30 think is, Oh, that sucks. Yeah, that sucks. And to, to just, to just get angry over that or over someone just, you know, using your towel for all of three seconds and then to hit me with the, what do you even call that? I don't, I don't know. Shut, stop, shut your mouth. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It's like, I, it's like, it's what NBA players do if they're getting jawed at as they're like going down the court and then they drain a three in someone's face, like that's what you do to them as you're going, but like, I, I didn't have beef with this woman to begin with. You know what? I hate the Monday morning quarterback. Just a huge opportunity missed to cry face her. That would have been so good.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Did your towel get wet? Oh, I'm sorry. Did your beach towel get some water on it? Oh, your towel's not dry anymore. You're gonna have to ask for another one. It was a personal towel that belonged to the condo. See, that's the issue. It was one of the rare personal towels at the pool. It's not an issue.
Starting point is 01:09:37 It just makes it more egregious if it belonged to the condo. It's still very egregious. If it belonged to, if it was one of the pool towels, I would have been like, just shut up. All right, it's not even your towel. But I knew in the moment, I knew in the moment that's not the towel that you pick up from the front desk. I also have a theory that you're supposed to have a wristband in there
Starting point is 01:09:55 because they have people sneak in all the time. And I had not acquired a wristband yet because I had just walked in, taken my shirt off and gotten directly in the pool. And then I was told after like, oh, by the way, you got to go to a wristband just so they know that you're part of us. Um, and so there's the part of me that just thinks that she thought I was just white trash, just hanging out, like going in the pool. You're on vacation. Like vibes are strong. The guy was clearly fratting.
Starting point is 01:10:18 What a dumb ass lady. What doesn't she understand about that? Dude, I just have, I can't remember the last time I was disrespected on the level of the bye-bye that she gave me. Situations like that, that's how fist fights start. You don't put your hand in someone else's face after the age of 24.
Starting point is 01:10:34 No, you can't do that. What if I just face wiped her? She basically hit you with a talk to the hand because the face don't want to hear it. I feel good that I'm the bigger man. Like I'm feel, I feel good that I didn't start a fight with some random lady, but I also just feel terrible that I didn't get the last word in.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And like I've told everyone this story because I still feel like I didn't get the last word. And so by telling the story and making sure that people know that this woman sucked, that was my way of doing it. I think you won. But that guy's got to live with her. I don't think I did doing it. I think you won. That guy's got to live with her. I don't think I did, man. I think she won. I think she mocked on me. But the way she darted her eyes away from you, it shows that there was a little bit of anxiety and remorse. She wanted the interaction to stop.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I was mostly just afraid of her husband just coming up to me and just me being one of those stories where he punches me out. I knock my head on the side of the pool. I fall in the pool and I bleed out, you know? Yeah, we didn't want that to happen. Remember that summer where like there were a bunch of videos of people fighting at the pool in San Marcos? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Shout out to Exchange too. Like I just didn't want that to break out with like my entire family there. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Fights have started for less. Like that's egregious behavior. And unfortunately, when I say my brother-in-law was with me for part of this time, it was not the brother-in-law that would have said something that we talk about often. It was my other brother-in-law who's more reasonable and chill. Yeah. Had it been my
Starting point is 01:12:00 brother-in-law who can be infectiously douchey. I think he and I would have ended up screaming at this woman and really making her get uncomfortable. He probably would have made it worse. It's a good thing he was not there. He would have amplified the situation. Luckily, he was off taking care of his kids somewhere, so we didn't have to worry about that. God, dude.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Hey, speaking of San Marcos, they have a Tumble 22 now. I just wanted to point that out. And also, I had an OG chicken that out. And also I had a, an O.G. chicken sandwich from the Austin tumble on Saturday. And it's my favorite chicken sandwich. Yeah, so fucking good, dude. I get it. It's really good from the chicken guy. I'm the chicken man. I get there. I get there strips too much to ever dive into the chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I do. I try. I try. It's really good. They do. They do some magnificent things. What do they put on it again? So they do like a I tried it. It's really good. They do, they do some magnificent things. What do they put on it again? So they do like, Is there slaw on it? There's some slaw. I don't know if I want the slaw. See, I'm normally not a slaw guy,
Starting point is 01:12:52 but they marry it well. They're not a wet slaw. It's pretty dry, all things considered. Yeah. Dry slaw. It's a dry slaw. Oh. Did you tell, get away. I think that was the move. I think doing the cry, I think doing the cry phase. That move never fails, but that, that would
Starting point is 01:13:05 also just exacerbate a situation. Genuinely like the worst thing you could have done would, if you went and grabbed the towel and just dip the tip of it in the water and just rolled it up and just. They're like, it's like, they're like surrounding a wild like animal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like rolled it up and just. Whap, whap, whap, whap, whap. They're like back, it's like they're surrounding a wild like animal, like a rabid raccoon. And like, whoa, whoa, don't be popping with the towel. And he's like, I'll do it, man. I'll fucking pop you. Good grief, dude. The rum floater wasn't even free.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Can you imagine? I can't wait. I didn't put it on my tab though. We had a family tab going. I didn't sniff that thing. Well, I'm sorry, man. That's a tough. No, don't apologize to me.
Starting point is 01:13:54 I mean, I'm to be honest, I was impressed with myself for defending my mother-in-law in the first place, because usually I'm not one to chirp up in those situations. And I'm also proud of myself that I did not take anything too far and call her any names that, uh, that I thought of in the moment, because I think it would have spiraled even faster. I'm not a Karen. Am I in this situation? No. Okay. I feel like she's the Karen, but I don't want to enter some spin zone where I'm the Karen here.
Starting point is 01:14:20 No, this isn't a getting a car towed in your apartment complex situation. Imagine this is extremely just. What kind of Karen would do that? You see somebody, even if it's like your mortal enemy and they drop their phone in the water and you're like, oh my God, you still feel for them in that moment. You have about 30 seconds to get that thing dry and possibly put it in rice. I'm assuming there wasn't rice available. No rice available.
Starting point is 01:14:42 You got to boil it. We would have had to drive down the street to the local rum bar, Doc Ford's in order to get some rice, I think. You bust in there like you got like a- We need rice. Yeah, like a wounded person. Man, I had a black and grouper sandwich on this trip that just changed my life. Holy shit. It didn't change my life in some grand way. It just made me less hungry, but it was pretty good. Right. Yeah. I can imagine.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Yeah. In closing, I did, when we were saying goodbye to everybody, we had a very early flight out on Saturday morning as we had a sick child at home. So we moved our flights up on Saturday. And I decided to do something. What I would say is a nice touch. Okay. When I was saying goodbye to my mother-in-law, I turned around and I said, oh, by the way, bye-bye. She loved it. She loved it. Great callback. Everyone was happy. Now we have a little thing. I think my stock rise with her because that defended her honor. Her phone is working in great shape. Honestly, I might've cleaned her phone off a little bit.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Phone's good though? Phone's 100%? Phone was good. Phone was good. Shout out to Steve Jobs and Apple. They make a product that can be submerged in water about six inches. Up to six feet? You like submerging things about six inches, don't you? Stop. Dude, come on. I'm just talking. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:58 What? I don't know. Did you hear Randy's latest project? What a pairing from the Aura frame right now. Oh man. Oh wow. The two biggest wild cards on the same Vegas trip. Flounder and.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Micah. Oh yeah. Micah shirtless. I don't know if some of those Micah pics have seen the light of day. Just want to point that out. I might need to delete a couple of those off the Aura frame before he sees them.
Starting point is 01:16:22 The next one is also Flounder and Micah. The Oriframe does a good job of like, they kind of pick up on, all right, the vibes here, similar. I don't know how they pick up on the vibes, but they pick up on the vibes. It's pretty impressive. Yeah. And then it knows what it's doing. Does Oriframes know that they sponsor the studio right now?
Starting point is 01:16:38 I don't think so. They should know. Should we tell them? No. Well, all right guys, thank you for being my sounding board. Thank you for your service. I wish, I'm kind of glad that neither of you were there because if I would have started talking about this
Starting point is 01:16:50 with you guys in the moment, I feel like that might've escalated as well. Yeah, I would've made it worse, I promise. If you have boys with you, it makes you more bold. It could've gotten ugly. Yeah. You just had Brock. I didn't want to drag 19 year old Brock in this situation.
Starting point is 01:17:01 No, he wasn't ready for that smoke. It honestly kind of sounds like a Love Island like Tiff. Dude, that's what it felt like. I got out of the pool and went over to the day bed to cool off. Yeah. You pulled her over to the fire to chat about it like an hour later. There was, I'm not kidding when I say this, there was legitimately a part of me that was wondering if Love Island had changed the way that I interacted in life
Starting point is 01:17:20 because I've been watching so much of it lately that like I felt in the moment and decided to like do something. If anyone's watching UK out there, how are your boy, it's just me, Sally and Cat Pat right now riding. Wait, is Cat Pat doing both? She's doing both.
Starting point is 01:17:36 That's fucking crazy. She's doing both. That's insane. She's crazy for that. So she's from my conversations with her, she is fully caught up on USA and she's flipped for me. I'm fully caught up on UK and halfway through USA, she's the other way.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I know only a few people watching it and she's one of them. The other day, I sent her a text at 10 o'clock and I realized she's an hour ahead of us. I was like, oh yeah, I'm just sending, first of all, I'm like on the third episode and she's caught up. I'm sending a random text at like 11 p.m. her time. And I'm like, yeah, I gotta just stop texting. This is dumb. I just need to watch the show get caught up
Starting point is 01:18:13 and we'll work it out. It's, both seasons are bangers right now. If you guys wanna do a Love Island Boys at some point, I could be interested. He's not all the way in. I watched the first episode. Of USA. Okay, first three episodes of USA,
Starting point is 01:18:28 I thought it was underwhelming, wasn't that into it. And by first three episodes, I mean the first episode that was two hours long and then the second episode. My issue is because there's so many episodes, it's such a time consuming endeavor that you have to watch with your partner and Chelsea is not in on it. Break up with her.
Starting point is 01:18:50 That's certainly an option. So I, babe, you gotta wonder if she's there for the right reason. It's me or love Island. And here I am. Well, the freeze, where can we follow you? Oh goodness. with the freeze where can we follow you oh goodness you can follow me down to Chipotle for my Chipotle bowl in a few minutes are you really doing that I don't think so the last one I have hey we need to do a cross from Postino is paperboy and that place was Boston was it not like it was and then we look at the menu we're Boston though we thought about like just doing like the, we just got our waters.
Starting point is 01:19:26 We thought about just walking over there, but we'd like now we stay. I had the chicken. Uh, what did you have done? You had the boy, the chicken and Mott's dude. Postinos. There's a post Dino opening up down. Like, I mean, it's not down the street. It's it's technically down the street for me, but like it's, it's a hike,
Starting point is 01:19:42 but it's in the hood. It's good. It's in the hood. I don't like it. the hood. It's good. It's in the hood. I don't like it. Catch me. It's just like charcuterie and wine and shit. And then like six Panini's. Are they one of those people that say like flatbread and they just want it to be pizza?
Starting point is 01:19:56 No, I don't like it when restaurants call it flatbreads. I don't think they have pizza. There's no zone. Yeah. It's a Panini joint. That's like, it's what they do. It's a Panini joint. That's like, it's what they do. Panini play. They knock out in their card.
Starting point is 01:20:08 They give you a choice to soft bread or crunchy bread. I like soft. Yeah. I like the soft. I don't like cutting my gum. Nah, nah. I don't like the roof of my mouth is like, it's all wrong. They have $6 pitchers of beer every day until five. That would be cool if we were a company that did Happy Hour. We can do a Happy Hour.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Yeah, we say that. Also the Mini Marks situation. No, I think our next Happy Hour needs to be Mini Marks. We tried to put Happy Hour in the books once a month and we couldn't even make that happen. Let's do one soon, let's just fucking do it. But not this Friday, because I'll be gone. Oh no. Where the hell are you going? Not to ruin this weekend in fun. Let's do one soon. Let's just fucking do it. But not this Friday, cause I'll be gone.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Oh no. Where the hell are you going? Not to ruin this weekend in fun. It's my annual Port Aransas trip. Port Aransas. Yeah, yeah. Nice dude. Yeah dude.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Yeah dude. Hey, well if there's any bitches at the pool. I'll let you know. Yeah, you can fight for my honor too. I will, I'll let you know. If that lady's there wearing her white Adidas hat, kind of a sick hat, unfortunately, but. She stunk baby.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Yeah. She didn't like the vibe. All right guys. She wasn't freaking with it. We love you. Shout out Casey Smith. Yeah, she was excellent. What a guest.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Hey, I want to introduce somebody right now. Casey Smith from Barstool Sports. Did I do it right? Crossed it. Ready, done. All right. Bye. Wheel to freeze, ladies and gentlemen. Bye.
Starting point is 01:21:32 What? I figured that was the end of the episode, David. You gonna hit the theme song or we got more to talk about? Oh, I thought we were gonna talk a little bit more SB3. Oh yeah, we can. We can. Yeah. Let me take back my bye.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Oh, sorry. No, I was not. I thought that was the end of the app. Look, I'm going to, I'm going to pull back the curtain here. This happened. This has happened before with guests. When we do it, when we front load an interview or do the interview before the show, it throws me out of my rhythm for the entire show. I will say it does. And that's why I've had some missteps. People are going to say, just what was up with Dave? Dave wasn't on his ish today. And I'm saying like, I did my best to be back on my ish, but like, I'm not going to fully get back on my ish until probably too much did. What are you going to get on your ish? Are people saying it's
Starting point is 01:22:19 host week? Might be host week. Don't, don't do that. Guys, everybody chill. All right. SB3. Seriously? Senate bill three, which was passed by the Texas ledge. It's been vetoed. To ban THC products has been vetoed by
Starting point is 01:22:38 governor Greg Abbott. Major win. It's just really funny. And I know we just, cause the, the lieutenant governor, the guy who's really, really, really, really pushing this. The most hateful person you can imagine in politics, the worst of politics. It's so funny. Cause he did this press conference when he, after it got passed, he very rare to do like a big press conference, like promoting it, promoting the bill after it gets passed. They'll be like, well, what's going on? Something weird.
Starting point is 01:23:03 He worried about it getting the veto. He said, because the media wasn't taking it seriously enough. That means he doesn't like which way the wind's blowing. And he did this whole Reefer Madness era style campaign, where he's got 30 different products. And he's talking like, just want this? You want to put this poison? Would you go home and take this? Would you go home and eat a whole bag of this?
Starting point is 01:23:24 No one said anything. We're like, first you go home and eat a whole bag of this? And- No one said anything. We're like, first of all, nobody eats a whole bag of that. He tosses it to a member of the media at one point. You want this? The fun fact, the fun thing is, even if like, for some reason you did like moronically go home and eat an entire bag, which you shouldn't do that. And it'll tell you, don't do that. This is the dosage.
Starting point is 01:23:42 You, uh, would likely be fine. Unlike a lot of other products. Yeah. You can't really OD on THC turns out. Anyway, it's just funny. And I'm, I'm very happy, uh, pull back the curtain even further. Like early bird, those guys were not only like our first sponsor of the show, but they've, we've become like friends with the guys. Um, we've got buddies over there.
Starting point is 01:24:01 And, uh, when it went down, it was like a shock to us. We're like, fuck really? Like, didn't think this is actually going to pass, but, and there was a chance that they were going to have to relocate. And then that goes for like any THC based business. If they want to continue operating, we're going to have to move. And now it looks like that's not going to happen. Um, I haven't talked to them.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Maybe they're going to move anyway. Who knows? I doubt it. Um, but it's good that they'll be around and, uh, someone who doesn't even like, no, use THC. Like I'm, I love this so much. It's just bad policy. It is. It's just bad policy and just the scare tactics behind it were just gross.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Yeah. Just gross. Many, many businesses were about to shut down, but they no longer have to. And that's great. I'm still pissed off about that lady in the pool. I would have been so mad. She needs to chill out. I'm about to bid her hand. She needs to take an early bird is what she needs to do.
Starting point is 01:24:49 I would have bid her a little hand. I would have laughed. You would have bid her hand. What if I kissed her hand? Her husband would have just pounded. Yeah, that wouldn't have gone well for you, big dog. Nope. You got those twitchy hands though.
Starting point is 01:25:00 I would have swam away. Catch me swimming away. With your twitchy hands. That's throwing you in the pool like you're a teenager again. You think that's funny? I do. I would have swam away. Catch me swimming away. With your twitchy hands. Yeah. Yeah. That's throwing you in the pool like you're a teenager again. You think that's funny? I do. I really do.
Starting point is 01:25:10 I can't wait for it. He's doing, so Dan Patrick's doing a press conference today to talk about the veto and I can't wait for it. Oh no. He's going to be a whiny little bitch. Did you build your veto? Oh, you're going to smoke weed now, Dan. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Smoking on that Dan Patrick pack tonight. I wasn't going to want my life. I don't that Dan Patrick pack tonight. I wasn't gonna woo in my life. I don't smoke. Don't bitch. I don't really smoke it. I might take a, I might, You got gummy? I might get high today just to celebrate.
Starting point is 01:25:32 And you guys are like, wow, I can't believe Dave extended the show just to do this segment. Why did he do that? Well, you know, I'm just saying like, I could use some early bird. Yeah, I could use some early bird too. We're having fun, man.
Starting point is 01:25:43 So could I. We're having fun. We love the could I. We're having fun. We love the stuff, we really do. We have so much fun doing the pod. No, man, what a weird, what a interesting weekend all around. Yeah. We bombed Iran.
Starting point is 01:25:55 See that? We did. You had some takes about that. Those pilots were in the air for 36 hours. They flew from Missouri to Iran and back. Did part of you think maybe there was a diaper? My brain went to the refueling and where that went down.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I was just thinking about the Dookie. I wasn't thinking about Dookie. But yeah, sure, they had it. I'm sure they filled up some Gatorade bottles. They had a toilet. There's a toilet on the B2. If their replies didn't lie to me. Really?
Starting point is 01:26:22 Yeah. Would not have guessed that. I guess the B2 goes longer flights. Allegedly even like a little microwave, a little place to. Oh, they're cooking up hot pockets and shit. The little hot pocket. Yeah. Oh yeah. 36 hours in the air. Yeah. That's cray. That is crazy. Yeah. What does that do to a man or a woman? I don't know. Did you see that hot air balloon in Brazil? No.
Starting point is 01:26:48 It's fucking scary. Is it going, is it out of control? Well, it burns and it crashes and like, uh, I'd say that's out of control. Some people died. Oh, that's sad. Some people survived. And if you see the video, I don't know how they fucking survive. Wow.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Anyway. Yeah. That's one thing I will never get in. Yeah. I feel like my, my, my window for hot air balloon is closed. I'd get in a hot air balloon. I feel like I would fall out.
Starting point is 01:27:10 You are the most likely to be in a hot air balloon. Yeah. I still don't think, uh, you know, skydiving isn't out of my future still. Well, somebody has done it. You got to get that leg healthy first. Well, I'm not going to be the one landing. They, they make you just sit.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Don't they make you just put your feet up? No, you have to land on the butt. You run. No, you have to. Yeah, dude. You're still irresponsible. Your feet are gonna hit the ground at a pretty. That's a big, probably part of the,
Starting point is 01:27:34 the number one injury in skydiving, I bet, is like rolled ankles. Wait, hold on. I have to run with the person also running behind me? What is this? What do you think? You just land on your butt? I think that I put my feet up and the guy that's on my back runs.
Starting point is 01:27:48 But I think I think you're going to put your feet down at some point. There's you have to participate in some capacity. My my mom, my mom went skydiving exactly one time and broke her leg. Is that fucking funny to you? I know. I'm just trying to think that. No, it's the rainy comedy. Sure. You put your feet up. You want to call Rosemary and Toad? And the person does it and like, you don't run. There's no way that you and him can run at the same time and lock stuff.
Starting point is 01:28:16 It's like the worst way to do it. No, it's like the, it's like the, uh, the wild boys when Steve Owen party boy put on the, uh, the, uh, llama outfit or whatever and run out there. Yeah, the cat the the lions like attack them. Look, I'm not I'm not Planning to go skydiving anytime soon. I'm just Saying I'm going a hot air balloon. I'm pissed off at you know, me too. I'm done. Let's go Bye I'm not really mad. I'm done. Let's go. Bye. I'm not really mad. I'm hungry

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