Circling Back - The Bear, Wire, & Sorority Dance Videos with Ross Bolen | Circling Back 8-13-25

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

NY Times Bestselling Author WR Bolen joins the show to talk about sorority rush videos, The Wire, The Bear, Tyler Childers, and the Circling Back subreddit. Support us on Patreon and receive weekly episodes for as low $5 per month: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch all of our full episodes on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/washedmedia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop Washed Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.washedmedia.shop • (0:00) Fun & Easy Banter • (10:08) Dave's Announcement About Sorority Rush Videos • (14:18) OCC on The Bear and The Wire • (33:00) Rap Albums That People Like Ross’s Friend Dillon The Native American Have Probably Never Heard • (56:35) Run it Back Support This Episode’s Sponsors: • Squarespace: Check out squarespace.com/STEAM for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, use OFFER CODE: STEAM to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. • Rhoback: Use code WASHED20 for 20% off at Rhoback.com. It's a one-time use code. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Maddo Ranchos, Mattel Ranchos, All right, we're back. It's a circling back podcast. Live. We're live. My name is Dave at DC Ruff on Instagram, at D.C. Ruff on Twitter. You may have known that. Joining me to produce is Randall Trimbecki.

Hi, Dave. Getting better at that, aren't I? Doing pretty good. You're doing pretty good. I got a really good checklist now if you want to see here. Look at this. So I know everything to do. That is a big checklist.

What's going on? That's just my, that's just my business. You got too many checks. Okay. Well, good on you. Hey, do me a favor. You have the thumb, the image from today's show, ready to go. here in a couple minutes because there's something i want to ask you about it yeah okay great

just tell me uh dylan shivery man just pretty excited to be here extra excited today because the the feller sitting to my right we'll get to him in a sec it's gonna be it's always exciting when he's here man well uh let's just get right to him of course uh our guest today is a witty podcaster and dad passionately cheers for nottingham forest geeks out over lord of the rings and humorously navigates family life with a toddler who terrifies him with demon voices. W.R. Bowen's dishing on Astros trades, dunking on hipsters, and plotting a Taylor Swift Muppet cover for billions. The ex-community praises at W.R. Bowen for his engaging podcasts with Ad DeCarter Ruff noting his strong show performances and at elusive current

lauding his passion for Game of Thrones. Society is broken. So says at W.R. Bowen, our guest today. What, dude, was that written by AI? It was. GROC. That was pretty solid. You got groked. Wow.

I think my car has grok now, but I don't know how to use it. Like built into it? Yeah. That makes sense. The Tesla, I'm pretty sure it does. I was at Costco yesterday. Elon John. I was at Costco yesterday or a couple days ago doing a snack run for the office.

You heard of this? And this guy, this old guy and his wife were buying shit, and they were looking at like the the snacks. They were looking at these like nuts, not these knots, but nuts. And he got his phone out and he pressed a button. He goes, Gemini, what is, what is the nutritional value in almonds? And I was like, Gemini. Oh, yeah. Is that the boomer? That's the, that's the Gemini is Google. So he clearly had the Google phone or whatever. I sound like a boomer. That deeply depresses me, though. I can't deal with it. My wife sent me like we've been having trouble with the two-year-old's bedtime. And she sent me, she was like, hey, I asked

chat GPT what we should do differently and sent me like basically chat GPT parents, my son now. I'd rather just do shit wrong than have the AI tell me how to do it right. Critical thinking is dying. It's wild how quickly it has just taken, it just become just a normal part of everyday life for so many people. And it's so often, like I have to use it for, I do banging the can to talk about Houston sports. So I'll use it to try to get data, stats. Oh, this guy's in the weeds. The stats it gives me, I always have to double check because they're wrong 95% of the time. Yeah, I'm always surprised by people that just like take chat GPT as gospel. It's usually pretty wrong. Yeah, you got to be really careful. Like really, really careful. Also, it's chat GPT,

not chat RBI right? Right. I can't believe Brock threw in Nottingham Forest. I completely forgot. What is that about? I committed to that being my Premier League team probably a year and a half ago. I think I watched three matches and forgot. How'd they do? I think they won one of the three. You watched three matches. And they were fine. He gave up. They were fine. They were fine, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I hope this goes well today. I've got a plumber and an electrician Eiffel towering me as we speak. Oh. You just getting spit roasted? Yeah, same time. Talked me into a $99 annual membership so that I get priority scheduling for my next issue on my home. It pays for itself, guys. It paid for itself in today's trip alone. Okay. So this is just,

you don't have a major issue. No, it's just a checkup. This is about plumbing? The plumbing side of it is a good $2,000 pop. You got a belly under your house? You got the line doing a belly? See, I don't know. You had a belly, didn't you? Well, here's the thing about it. It depends on how you look at it. It depends on who you got at my house. Because one guy was like, man, this is unvixable. Then everybody else is like, no, that guy was trying to take you to the cleaners. Was this two years ago you had this massive issue? Yeah.

It was, we thought it was a massive issue. Then we realized the first people were just absolutely trying to get us for a lot of insurance money. Yeah. So this is at the office where I'm dealing with this today. And I frankly don't have the time to check to make sure I'm not being absolutely robbed. Did somebody take Amando? Amando? Yeah, Mondo.

What's it? Oh, Amondo dump? Yeah. Sometimes I... Exactly. It's a big dump. Don't tell on Cade, but I'm just asking, or yourself really. Or Barrett.

I honestly, what I've been told is that my water pressure was at 120. And he tells me this. And I go, sir, I have no fucking idea what that means. What's the normal range, sir? About 80, Dylan. Yeah, that can cause, that could cause some issue with the pot. So he's got to have some hammering. He's got to put in a new regulator valve

at the street level. It's going to involve some digging. That's not that expensive because we had that done. So don't let them charge you a lot of money for that. Well, it's too late. I've already signed off on having my summer ruined. Daddy likes some water pressure.

And at the end of the day, don't listen to me. I'm not a plumber. What the fuck am I? I just look it I'd do for a living. I know. I always feel it sucks talking to these, what do you call these types of jobs, like trade jobs?

Yeah. Because I don't know, I'm completely relying on them not being a thief. Well, we have the best, we've got the best HVAC guy in the game who comes here. Just an absolute dog. He installed the unit himself because, like, nobody showed up to help him. And it was in the middle of August of last year. Jesus. It was, yeah, 100 degrees in this office.

It was by himself and just spent all day. Well, next time I have an HVAC issue, I know who to call you guys. Yeah. Maybe you get a little referral fee. He's kind of bucks. He's kind of handsome, too. I like it when he's here. The vibes are just good.

Yeah, I didn't really notice that. He's kind of good-looking, isn't he? Both the guys in my house right now are hideous. Really? That's not what you want, man. You're not handsome fellas? No, not good-looking men. I hope they don't have this up live.

Yeah, you sure they're not streaming? Hey, man, we heard what you said. You didn't have a belly before. You got one now. If you guys are in the chat, let us know, and please don't intentionally ruin my office. Thanks. Yesterday we did cold calls on Patreon.

That was fun. It's live now. Great time to tap into that. You guys call listeners who have applied to be a part of this. Yeah, they submit their number in a little prompt, like what they want to talk about. And from that, we pick people to call. And it's a lot of fun. They're getting better every time, too.

That's good. That's like old school sports radio style. Yeah. Like, did you grow up listening to Rome? I grew up listening to the ticket in Dallas. ticket, but I did a little Rome. They did a lot of callers stuff. I did a lot of Jim Rome.

And what's the, what's the competition he has where he has all his best callers from the year, call in? The smack off? Smack off. Dude, the smack off is elite. That's a good, best good content there. Yeah. Shout out to, uh, nice, talk shit to each.

Shout out to Sean, the Cablin Asian Pendergast, who won that multiple times. They pick other listeners and just go in all of them. Yeah, it's incredible. They have massive beef between. listeners, guys who absolutely despise each other. It's great. Rome was burning. He was, yeah.

Oh, man. What else, Dylan? Recording listener voicemails today. That'll drop Friday. So it's a great week to hop on Patreon. 11-11, make a wish. Along with the newsletter. We'll go out Friday morning.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, newsletter. And then, yeah. What do you think about the new studio? I enjoy this, man. It's nice. It's kind of cozy. It's more homey. Dude, yeah, it's a much better stuff than we had.

Much. Are you kind of upset that you're not in one of these chairs? A little bit. A completely horizontal by the end of the show. Just slowly. We talk about that. Why are y'all fucking my posture in me, man. Because in Grandnecks, there would be like...

It got bad, yeah. There was a time where you look over, you're just... It's because those chairs were too deep. Those chairs were hell on your back. Yeah. I still remember. The only way to get comfortable was to just get flat. We did a backdoor,

cover our old sports podcast. Oh, yeah. And it would be like you, me, I think sometimes you were in there with us. Dan was in there a lot. One of the shows got so out of control. I just put my head down on the desk. I was so unhappy just in general.

I just was fucking sitting in there with my head down on the desk. Thankfully, we didn't have video at that point. What was going on on that episode? Life, man. I don't, right. Yeah. Who could say?

Sometimes life just kicks you in the deck a little bit. I was just right in the head of your day. Just a bare spiking of football. Yeah. In theory. But yeah, the studio looks nice. I enjoy it. Good vibes in here.

Shout out to Randy. He did some of this. I did most of it. It's not true. I got to make a quick announcement because I'm speaking of burning. I'm steaming right now. I'm pissed off. Oh.

Uh-oh. People keep sending me these videos. Randy, I sent you another one. I yeah I'm pissed off that you sent me it I just want to put it out there it's really have you seen these sororities doing these dances yeah yeah it's really it's really pissing me off because it's the left hates them the left absolutely libs hit can't stand it i can't it's the dancing it liberals absolutely hate just really attractive young women dancing around in the front lawn and here's a couple more and this just this pisses me off

and people i'm gonna get pissed off if we play this ah damn it God, ASU alpha-frey. Okay, what... Look at these. What upset you about this, though? It's just everything, man. Oh, we get it. You're white and you're hot.

Here's what I don't understand. Can you believe it? Dave, I'm not trying to step on your anger here. I have some of my own that I need to let out to, though. The take I saw on Twitter was like, this is like probably week before last. Somebody tweeted one of these out and was like, we are so back. And I was like, they have been doing this shit every year. That's exactly what we were saying.

No, Ross, Ross. as you can clearly see by three-year lettermen, when Joel Biden was in office sororities weren't making these videos because they didn't feel like dancing. That's true. The 20-25 is a new era, man. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of my entire life.

You can tell from the video being released today that they are proud to live in the oldest and greatest country on the earth. Literally the oldest. Oldest? We shared one the other day, Ross. Joel Biden? It's three-year lettermen. It was one of these videos,

and the caption was, like, look what Sidney Sweeney has done to, like the youth of America she's making it okay to be like she's celebrating white beauty i'm glad you brought her up the community note said this has nothing to do with cissy i'm really glad you brought her up because man i don't really know much about her i was unfamiliar with her until the other day the swine dog keep you know what y'all keep sending me uh more on sydney i want to investigate because it's you know what i'm so pissed off it's time for me to become an activist much like i am now on this but this though i'm tired of it man i've looked at enough of these

videos. I think I've looked at every one of them. I've watched most of them multiple times. And I'm fucking pissed off about it. Yeah. You're just doom scrolling at this point. You're getting more and more pissed off kind of like, yeah, man. I'm like, I'm tired of sitting on the sidelines. This time I said something. These videos right here, mm, they're just, they're so good. They're getting me. You're pissing me off. Yeah, I had, I had a backer sending me one the other day. And I'm like, I almost blocked him. I said, don't, no more. Quit at you. Stop it. Stop it. Stock up on white beauty. It's pissing us off

Stuck up on white beauty We're celebrating Yeah the stonks are up They never stopped They've been doing this every year I'm almost positive that this is a video From last year too Because I'm pretty sure the one that we watched

Yesterday was also a No this is No I looked into this one This one's recent Well you can tell by the jeans They might actually leaning into like The good jeans thing Like the Sydney sweet stuff

Because they're all wearing denim No no no I looked I looked into this I found these girls on Instagram just to let them know how upset I was. I strongly were to call us. I DM'd each one of them individually. So do they bring in like a choreographer?

Dude, they must. The shit's elaborate. And then, you know, they've always got like three ladies at the front who can legit. They're on the drill team. Do some moves. Cheers squad. Cheerleaders. And then you can see.

Then they put the ugos in the back who can't dance. Yeah. Yeah. It just, how many man hours are being spent on? It just. Well, man. Dude, they've been, they've been practicing this. choreographed dance for months.

The Sydney-Sweeney thing came out like, what, three weeks ago? Like, how many takes do you think? We're talking about like a multiple day of shooting type thing here? This is just, I can't even... World's going to hell in a handbasket, Dave. I'm sorry to start the show like this. The web hates it.

Oh, man, yeah. No, it's tough. One factor melting down over this trend. They're seething. There's somebody... Stop it! So, Ross, how's How's the, how's OCC? I saw you guys are doing a wire. Yeah, we're doing the wire because the back half of 2025 is kind of sparse.

Is it, you've obviously seen the wire. What about Barrett? This is his first time. That surprises me. Yeah. He's one of these people. He tried like a decade ago, watched episode one, went, I have no depth as a man yet and I'm bored by this and he walked away. Because you know, it's kind of a slow burn in the wire. Did he admit that? Yeah, yeah. That's good for him. Those are his words. Because I would have lied and been like,

because I wouldn't want people to know that I tried it and didn't like it. Randy's got some. I'm saying, be careful. Barrett is, in fact, in the chat right now. Barrett's here. Yeah, he texted me beforehand. I know he's out there listening. Shout out DJ Duds. Shout out to our good friends of Howard.

So this is his first time past episode one. And as anybody who has watched The Wire knows, like, season one is arguably the best first season of a show ever. It's up there. The Wire, by and large, considered to be one of the, the best show has ever made. So I'm pumped for him to get to experience it. We met Omar in this week's episode, first scene with Omar.

So you're still in season one? Yeah, with three episodes. Can I, if Barrett ever has to miss a show or like if you have to miss a show because you took a Mondo or something? Can I fill in? Yes. As long as you don't take a Mondo dump in the toilet at the office. No, no, no, I promise.

I'm giving you a no Mondo guarantee. Okay, thank you. Dude, there's nothing better than like three wide dudes talking about the on a podcast. Yeah, we actually had, leading up to us making the decision to cover it, one of our black listeners was like, I absolutely do not want you guys to cover the wire.

And our read was like, is it because we're white guys? She's like, yeah. She's worried we're going to blow the talking points. But I'm not that worried about it, man. You know, it's way more cringe for me when I end up talking about anything related to hip hop or rap as a white dude because the wire comments on all types of societal

shit it gets into a broad spectrum bro the docs topics wait till they get to the doc season two is it kind of caught caught me off guard season two it'll do that yeah it'll do that hey wait no spoilers wait till you get to the newspaper with the schools oh the school oh it is a wild ride of the show i don't want to ruin it for barrett or anybody hasn't watched people are mad at me because I spoil stuff on here, but the school stuff was the toughest, like, as far as like... That's the hardest season for me, too. Yeah. What's the young lady's name who buys the nail gun?

Snoop. Snoop. Shout out to Snoop. That's a character. Skoo! Got so many good characters on the show. Love the show. I did that really well.

Very excited to be watching it. You did? That was good. I watched episode four last night. It's my wife's first time through as well. So Lexi's watching it with me. And she's, like, bought in. She's enjoying it, huh?

Yeah, yeah, so we're rolling. I don't know if I could get Chelsea in on the wire. Michael B. Jordan. Might be a bit much for her. Yeah, the 14, 14 or 16, I can't remember. Young teen, Michael B. Jordan. What did you think about sinners? It was really good.

It was severely overhyped. Yeah, I thought it was a little overhyped, but I enjoy it. It was a good, like, I'm not watching anything on a Tuesday night. Yeah, I saw a take from one of the Barstool, Lights Camera, barstool guys yesterday. He was talking about weapons. which is in theaters now. Yeah.

A new horror movies that's supposed to be incredible. And he was speaking to the fact that the horror genre fans have wildly overhyped things like long legs last year, sinners this year. Both solid movies.

Sinners is a really good movie. Don't get me wrong. But they made it sound like it was going to change your life. Like it's one of the best things you've ever going to see or have seen. But that apparently weapons like lives up to the hype. What? We have a friend.

of the show, Sauce, as he's known, that he absolutely, I don't know if he called Long Legs life-changing, but he did everything but. And now I never saw it. I watched it. But he, I mean, the hype that he had for that was incredible. No one hypes a movie like Saw-Stos. It was a solid C-plus.

Okay. It was fine, but it was not like. Wait, did you see weapons? No, no, I'm talking about long legs. I know, no, I haven't seen weapons yet. I don't know when I'm gonna get to see it. I think I benefited from not knowing what sinners was about when I watched it.

Like, I had no clue. I didn't either. Like, any, any, I did you know it was a vampire movie? I did not. I knew it was, I knew, it had to have been fun. I knew it was vampire, but I didn't know the time period or anything like that. So I was pleasantly surprised.

Like, that was, hey, really well made, really well done, very, very good movie. Just not, it wasn't like, it's not gonna be on my top 10 movies of all time or anything. Go ahead and run through those though. You know, no, thanks. Thanks for the opportunity, but I'll pass. Where are you guys at on the bear?

I really like the new season. You're finished with it, though. Yeah. Look, I understand why they extended the show, why they're wanting to do more, because money. Made monies. But this probably should have been three seasons. It's just getting kind of repetitive.

It's like, oh, cooking is art, and everybody has traumatic, personal. issues they need to address and everybody needs to be in therapy and there's lots of yelling. It just is getting a little bit stale, but then they have, they did do a good job in the last couple of, like episodes 9 and 10 of season four were unbelievable. I thought they were great, like, you know, as good as the bear has ever been. If you look at it like an album, like your favorite album, you're going to have songs on it. Like, that are skips that are either skips or you're just like, okay, this is fine.

Yeah, yeah. And the bear, I think, this season, like, had more really good episodes than bad. I agree. Season three had more skips. Season three was... It was okay, you know? Yeah. But I thought they found their footing again in this season, and I thought they set it up really well for season five.

Yeah. So we'll see how it goes. Randy, you smirking over there. I was going to ask if Ross wanted to go through his top four albums of the year. No, I don't want to do that either That's a callback to Micah We had Mike on last time he was odd And Micah's like, I want to do a segment

I'm like, all right And he went through like his top four albums of the year For 45 minutes For 45 minutes and like did like Did like a really in-depth dive On each of them Just wildly unnecessary I mean it was it was informative

But it was one of the It was an absolute lightning rod segment People were either like we're like, oh, that was actually great, like, learn something. Or that was the worst thing. People were like, dude, Mike has lost it. He can never come on the show again. I thought it was entertaining.

Dude, I've spent some time in y'all's Reddit. Oh, yeah, it's a fun place, man. Which, uh, sometimes. Reaffirmed my decision to never launch a Reddit. Oh, we didn't launch a Reddit. Reddit launched itself. Oh, for real? Yeah.

That wasn't, that wasn't, uh, no. Okay, wow. That's fan made. First of all, flourishing community Very good sign that so many people are so passionate about what y'all do Opinionated Very

Second of all I got secondhand rage out of that Secondhand This is zero impact on my life In any way, shape, or form And there were takes in there that I was like I want to find this person What was the topic of discussion

You don't have to get too into it, but There have been several I check, I would say I check I'm, like, hooked in now. I have to check y'all's Reddit, like once every couple weeks. Do you ever comment? They got the hook in? No, man, I'm not commenting in there.

I don't have a burner. Oh, no, you just created a post about yourself now, Ross. Yeah, yeah. Well, I've seen posts in there about me anyway. But, yeah, that's, as y'all are aware, it's kind of the nature of the beast when you do this for a living is that you get people who are very passionate and opinionated about what you do. Yeah.

But the customer is not always right. I'll just say that. My take is it, I think it's overall a good thing that people are, like you said, passionate enough to have opinions and want to share them with other people listen to the show, even if some of the things they say are not exactly nice. It's the stuff that where it's like, I don't care if Dave doesn't know football, Dave doesn't know college ball or the boys, they don't know, okay, that's fine. I don't care.

Like, yeah, I get it. Somebody's going to disagree with some stuff there. the only stuff that ever gets me A, when like someone's like attacking Will over something I'm like, that shit has been And like, it's like I'm not gonna jump in there and like

Actually you're wrong will is will rules Because that makes it worse right If I'm like if I'm in there how You know what I'm saying? Not just me but Dylan or anybody Yeah But when like the the little things about like the business Why we did something or why we didn't do something With zero context for the decision

Exactly it's fine I get dude I'm like man I'm really lucky to have people speculating about like our business that's cool but also like that's the only annoying thing is like you're so wrong but it's not what happened at all this is what pulled me in was the the big will announcement and everything because i've gone through a version of this actually several times uh on rbp you know where like originally micha was our producer slash ended up being like the co-host when grandex fell apart that changed and so i I've had like six co-hosts at this point. People didn't stop bringing Micah up for two years.

Like, it was two years. So I was curious to see how, you know, the feedback would be with y'all's audience comparable to what I went through, which was fucking brutal. I can curse on live, right? Oh, yeah. Fuck y'all. And so, yeah, it's taken a lot of strength to not create a Reddit account and start just blasting y'all's fans. But I didn't think you would appreciate that, so I didn't. One thing I found, and I kind of knew this to be true, but like, so no laying up recently, they parted ways with KVV.

Yeah, I saw that. I was like, okay, well, I'm a fan, and I'm like, I'm very curious how their Reddit's handling it. And they handled it exactly like our Reddit handle. Like, it's, there is a ton of blowback and a ton of like speculation and a lot of it, like, anti- the guys who host the show and then finally there was such a backlash there was a backlash against that people like all right no more of that like we really don't need to keep commenting on this like we you know what I mean like there's a reason they're they're not they're not going to tell us what went into the decision you don't I mean oh they'll police themselves

it was funny to see that though yeah and it's like also it doesn't matter how good a show is or how big the fan base is like if you go on uh pardon my takes subreddit people are bitch Oh, Big Cat's terrible if you go on there. Yeah, people are bitching about something. It's like, you seem to like to show because you're listening so much that you know enough to comment on it. Yeah, you certainly have to take it with a grand of sight. I was trying to find a specific Rogan guest. Like, I was trying to find something.

I went on his subreddit. And it's about 95% has just turned on him. And every guess, it is the most negative of any place. I'm like, oh, wow, this is really, I'm sure he's not even aware of any of this. I was going to say, I guarantee you he has never been to that Reddit and never will be. Can you imagine if he, Joe and Jamie are just going through the comments, like, looking at the guy's history. The difference for our stuff when you're small to mid-sized or whatever, you, you know, you feel a, you have like an intimate relationship with your supporters and your family. Like, yeah, if I was Rogan size, I would never pay attention to what anyone said about me ever again.

With an audience size like we have, it's like, oh, I want to hang on to these listeners. Yeah, it's important that you can't make everybody happy at the same time. But you're going to have like an outspoken majority or a minority that is often overwhelmingly negative. The people who are constantly complaining, I've made the analogy of going to a restaurant and having just a really bad meal or bad service. And you want to, you like, leave a nasty review. And then you like keep going back to that restaurant just so you keep talking about it and keep leaving negative reviews. Like, you know, you can go somewhere else if you want to. want to just stop going yeah yeah but at the same time we want you to keep going because it's good

for us no and i mean look it's here's the only thing i have to say about all of that um how long is this counting the touching base days y'all have been going for nine years nine years right shows go through phases there's going to be different phases of the show you know whether it be like uh stylistically what y'all do with the content or in terms of the hosts or whatever Life happens. That's an enormous amount of time. 99.9% of podcasts do not survive nine years. Nine years is crazy.

It's not a thing that happens. Yeah. So it's inevitable that there's going to be stuff like that. I think y'all have handled it personally. I think y'all have handled it really, really well. Thank you. Well, right on, good sir. And my only advice would be to ignore the negativity.

Because obviously, y'all are going to do the best job you can. This is your entire livelihood. Yeah. So you don't need people to motivate you to do that by telling you you suck or that you made a mistake. You know, so. There was a thread in our subreddit a few weeks ago. And then someone said, I think they should not listen to what we have to say. It's like, they should just do their own thing and not care what the commenters say because we're wrong.

Something like that. I was like, yeah, yeah. It was the meme of the guy standing up. Oh, yeah, yeah. Back in the PGP blog days, if we had like a particularly like negative commenter, like one that was just like really like mean and personal i would find their email which is easy to i would get it through like their account they set up and i would just email and be like hey what's up man what's going on buddy i was serious i'd be like hey i noticed you comment on this a lot

and like it seems like you're really mad i'm like i'm curious why like is everything good and i wasn't even doing it in like oh you good buddy like i was doing it like kind of seriously because i'm like i want to know because i hadn't been in content that long they'll always play nice when you reach out person yeah and so Some of them, most of them. Tone changes completely. Some of them deleted their accounts and I had one guy reach out. I was like, yeah, I hate my job.

I'm just going through. I'm getting smoke. I just wanted to tell you you suck. And I've also found that in general, a lot of people use the internet as like their negativity outlet. It's like the place they go to complain and shit on things and bitch. And frankly, if they do it online instead of in the real world, that's probably an overall win for society. But this happened with OCC. Yeah.

With oysters, clams, and cockles, what I have noticed, because we, you know, we track the internet's reaction to a lot of these shows that we cover, and people dump on stuff like the bear. Like, it's the worst thing they've ever seen in their lives. And I'm like, then you haven't watched a whole lot, fella. It's also the anonymous nature of posting on a form like that. Because you, there's no, like, it never comes back to you. You can say, oh, I hate this person, hope they fucking kill themselves. And you log off and you go about your day and you never have to hear about it again. Yeah.

Like someone's going to read that. Your comments out there forever, but no one knows who said it. Yeah. That shit's so annoying. If I had gotten to talk to him beforehand, I would have told Will, just stay off the Reddit for like a year and a half. Yeah. There's no reason for you to be in there at all. But then there are plenty of people who are like, I just love Will and I miss him.

I want him on the show. I'm like, that's fine? Those comments don't really give you like an endorphin. it's the negative ones massively outweigh the positive ones so you just come out of their feeling like defeated somebody canceled their patron said miss will shows too broie now and their exit survey oh there's nothing more triggering to me every once in a while we'll bear it and i'll get a comment like that about occ these guys are bros and i'm like yeah i'm almost 40 years old man and i i yeah i guess i don't even know what i don't use the word bro

I don't call people bro What does this mean? My son has been calling me Bro and dude lately No shit Yeah He's not supposed to say it But when he does it I just laugh

So I make it worse Mine started calling me Dad instead of Dad And I'm like Hey dude I thought I had a couple more years of this Do you mind Switching back?

Dude I remember the moment I was in the car with Parks He was I don't know Five six He said I'm gonna start calling you dad now Mine's two What happened At least he warned you

And then from then on He never once called me daddy again. It was just daddy. See, and you never know when the last time's going to be, man. You never know. I know. When it was your last time. Are you going to start calling you daddy? Yeah, I would love that. He needs someone to call me daddy. Ooh, that's a good pot. There you go.

Call him daddy. Yeah. All right. That's a little weird. It's good. Daddy. Boing. Anyway, sorry for the side. No, no, that's good. It reminded me that Squarespace is the all-on-one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online. That's exactly what it reminded me of.

Whether you're just starting out or scaling your business, Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain, showcase your offerings to the professional website, grow your brand, and get paid all in one place. Hell yeah. Look, that website, you go to washmedia.com. That's our website, right? That's a Squarespace joint. It's a Squarespace joint, exactly. They have really helpful templates that kind of walk you through the process, and maybe you're not graphically inclined. It'll give you some template options to work through and work from, and it helps you build out a really sharp-looking website, even if that's not only not, if you're not very tech-savvy, don't worry about it.

If you hunt and peck type and you're like, this is about me. No, no, no, no, there's other people who do that. I'm aware. Yeah. You can head to Squarespace.com slash steam for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code Steam to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. again go to squarespace.com slash steam for a free trial when you're ready to launch use offer code steam to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain

Ross did you see we're getting a DeSano pizza down by us? No what's I don't I'm not even familiar there's one downtown it's it's Sano it's phenomenal pizza hmm it's phenomenal I like De Sano you like De Sano I don't know if I've ever had Is that the thin crust and it's like a It's a... I think I've had it before. It's a Neapolitan style. I did not know that.

Dude, you had it at a... Sorry, you had it for one of the Parsons, birthdays, I think. Oh, really? I could be wrong about that. Okay. I always forget how close y'all's office is to mine. It's like two miles, man. It takes me less than five minutes to get here.

I should be over here more is what I'm saying. Do you ever go to Leroy and Lewis? I don't want to docks you. The barbecue joint? Like the brick and mortar? Because it's down there. because I went there the other day and I was like for the first time

and I didn't realize it was so close to that area. Is it one of those lines off the door, barbecue places? It can be. This is the one that got a Michelin Star? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I've been several times.

It's real good. The burgers. Kind of shocked that it got a Michelin Star. Because again, it's quite good. But I thought Michelin Star is for for shit that you leave

and you're like, that changed me. like uh that's that's kind of the vibe i i get from michelin stars too although i've never been to leroyne lewis so i have no no context did you see hillary duff was at la barbecue oh was she oh god yeah would that she bring her wagon dude it goes everywhere with her yeah and don't definitely don't send me stuff on hey the other that shit pisses you right off too that makes you imagine those jeans no way um the other pizza spot that i've become aware of is mary's gourmet pizza, but Mary is spelled M-A-R-Y-E. Is that in Westlake?

I don't know. I've only door-dashed it. Okay. Or whatever. But it is very good. That rings a bell, the Westlake. There's one, something like that in Westlake. In that little place right over by the high school, that little... It's in B caves, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good. It is good. I don't know why it's spelled that way, but it's... Chef's kiss. The boys are just talking Zah. Well, you guys are a big pizza podcast. Yeah, we are.

That is true. You got rules and shit. We like pizza around here. Love pizza. Hey, Ross, do you have any rap albums that people like your friend Dylan, the Native American, have probably never heard? I was thinking about that segment the other day. Explain the segment first. Somebody requested that on Twitter.

So Dylan is like, what is your percentage? I don't really know. Like one, 200. When I did 23 and me, I was disappointed in how low it was. No, it's more than that. Dude, okay. When I did 23 and me, I was disappointed. and me i've grown my whole life thinking i was scottish majority scottish my name is william

wallace not that's not william ross but but william i got my 23 and me zero scottishness i was disappointingly like very just western european i'm come on man yeah dude i want us some flavor yeah i'm with you uh anyway we used to do this we used to do this segment i used to do this segment um introduce rap albums that my friend Dylan, who's Native American, has never heard of. And in hindsight, I had heard of very few of them. Well, also, this was pre-cancel culture and outrage. So why you got rid of it? Eventually, we did so many rap albums that I stopped doing it.

But no, man, I think now at this phase of life, it would be tough for me to be aware of one that you weren't. Did you know this is a slight sidebar here Tyler Childers you know he has the song Feathered Indians Yeah He doesn't perform it

Live anymore Yeah but you know That's not the real reason That's what he said I read this I read his quote Really? Yeah

I think he said Okay I have read that quote Where he said It's not his word And he doesn't want to use it For that reason But I've also read

That he doesn't perform Okay never mind I reversed this. This is my fault. Sorry. The rumor was he didn't play that song anymore because it was about a woman that is not his wife. Then he confirmed it's actually because he doesn't want to use that word. By the way, that song goes unbelievably hard.

It's a good song. Do you ever wonder like artists who write like a song like Bob Seeger, like night moves? I mean, it's clearly about like he was like young, young man and he was just had some old fling. Or like what's that Buck Cherry song? Okay, not Buck Cherry. Are you should, okay. Then his current wife is like, you're still doing the night move song, huh? Yeah, current wife is like, Ross was like, what about that buck cherry song?

What's the book crazy bitch? Yeah, okay. Yeah, also, they don't do that anymore because Buck Cherry got married to a nice lady and he didn't want people that. I assure you Buck Cherry guy didn't get married to a nice lady. But no, like the new wife's like, oh, you're still doing night moves, huh? Yeah. You're thinking about her a lot? And he's like, here's the thing.

It's my biggest hit. People really like it. Yeah. And also, it was a great night. I love Tyler Childers. It was very, very funny seeing the online discourse around the release of Snipe Hunter as big sects of his fan base realized he was a liberal. This happened over a month, like three different times. There were waves of outrage online from people who were like, oh, wow.

I'm sorry a couple years ago when he did the song that was about a gay guy. In your love, I believe. Yeah, it's about like a gay relationship. And people are like, um, what? This affects how I view you as an artist. Imagine like really liking someone's music. And then a song about just a gay couple just completely turns you off. He also did long violent history in 2020.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. all of the social unrest that was occurring at that point which pretty much hasn't stopped and anyway I think he's probably I know he doesn't drop very often

and I'm not I don't like country in general I'm not a mainstream country guy I only like certain shit like I like Lucas Nelson and the promise of the real when he had that group together I think they've broken up now Childers is probably my country goat

like my personal favorite I love this dude. He's great. I had this thought and I tweeted it the other day. I do this from time to time where I'll just run a tweet out there and tell everybody I tweeted this the other day. If you fire up Dirty Ot Trill and you don't like that song and you think like this album sucks, I am like blown away by you.

Onita is the one that's got a tux in me right now, dude. I can't stop. Dirty Art Trill. Dirty is the last song on the track. It's just a fucking fun song and Snipe Hunt's a fun song. That's what a lot of the album is fun-ass song. First song on the album is a bad, look, I, biting list? What the hell is that?

Bighton list is, that one will get in your head. The whole premise of the song is that he gets rabies and he has a list of people that he would bite if he got rabies. That's an incredible song. He's just doesn't like the way you is, Dylan. So I listened to it for the first time this morning, actually. And a first time through an album, I don't really take in the lyrics so much. I just go, it's not a context play.

First time through, it's just overall vibes of the album. And I quite enjoyed it. It's, uh, yeah. I mean I don't know if you if it just depends on what you're expecting like artists do I guess he kind of comes from the Sturgle tree which I because I think that they work together or Sturgle worked with him like on like some of his early stuff like production wise I could be a little bit wrong about that but like if you look at like Sturgle's early stuff and like where he went with his career it's like oh yeah dude he's doing completely different shit now he's like stepping in with Denko well and if he's If your artist that you're into goes and works with Rick Rubin, he's not going to make what he typically makes. I'll be honest, I was worried about it. Yeah.

I don't know, Rick Rubin, his whole scene, it's just... I love Rick Rubin. I think he's awesome. I like what he does out there, but it's like a cult. His 60 Minutes interview kind of threw me off. It made me, like, wonder, like... See, I didn't watch that, and I've heard differing opinions about Rick and his whole outlook. My only familiarity with him is watching him work with artists.

in like either documentaries or um david letterman's netflix show where he had Lucas Nelson go out to Rick Rubin's play anyway just Rick Rubin's whole vibe uh appeals to me somehow the the beard saying he knows nothing about technical the technical side of music which I'm pretty sure is a lie that's got to be a bit right I'm pretty sure it is um he's got like Bob Dylan's old fucking trailer on his property that's converted into a recording studio he just seems like he's living a fun life out there, Rick Rubin. Shout out to Rick Rubin. He's probably here in the channel. I want to be the podcast, Rick Rubin. Yeah. Where I just, I like, I don't know any like the whatever the fuck Randy's doing over there. I just like stand in like to like a new show

that's like I've been coming. I'm like, mm-hmm. I just observed and I'm like, actually, uh, you guys should stand up when you do the show. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's, yeah, though, that's genius advice. And then like that'll be $25,000. Yep. I'll see you later. Yeah, I do wonder what he charges. Like, is he getting like 30% of the gross off this Childers album? I wonder how that works. Yeah, I don't know. He's certainly very expensive, I would imagine, you know? Yeah. But what a range that guy has. He did like 99 problems with Hove. Remember that? Beastie Boys, Hove, Johnny Cash. He's all over the place. Yeah. Rick Rubin. It's like music Gandalf. Oh, yeah, that's a good, that's a good calm. You have been getting a lot of compliments on your Sauron.

in the chat. Yeah. I have the same one and it's a great, it's a great shirt. I bought this off Instagram. Same. The first thing I ever purchased off the gram and I wear it sometimes. It's a good shirt. It's fun.

How's a FitBaud treating you? Dylan doesn't like it. He doesn't like the show. He doesn't like L-O-T-R. He watched it. Dude, I watched it and then I watched Harry Potter right after it. Because for me, those are kind of like the same, same. like genre-wise.

Okay. And I'd never seen either one, so I decided to just do it. And Harry Potter just blew Lord of the Rings away in my mind. What the fuck? Harry Potter's just easier to digest. I just didn't get it. Lord of the Rings is you got to keep up with a lot of lore and canon even. Yeah, I guess.

What were you saying? I don't fucking know. I don't remember either. Oh, I was going to say, you look like you put on some muscle. Oh, Fitbod. Is Ross Fit back in action? Yeah. I've enjoyed it. My wife was kind enough to purchase me like a legitimate set of garage gym equipment for like my combined Father's Day birthday a couple years ago. And yeah, if I, I've never been, not since high school sports have I been like workout guy who really stays on top of it, like takes his fitness seriously and, you know, pounds fucking creativity. and, hell yeah, electrolytes

and tries to take in as much protein as I can. We've got a cereal for you, by the way. Oh, good. Man cereal. But I've been on it for, I want to say, almost three years now, doing it at least a few times a week. I try to do four times a week, but you know how it is with kids and work?

Oh, yeah. But it's like, it keeps me sane. You know? Good for the mental. If I go a week without it, the wheels start to come off, dude. Take your shirt off, man. Let's see what you're working with.

Taking sorrow on off. The worst part of getting sick is like when you get off your workout stuff and then it's like, okay, I could go back tomorrow and you're like, I should probably wait another day and you just lose all momentum. What's it called when your whole body, the soreness you get after you haven't worked out for a long time? I saw you complain about this recently. He's a doms suffer. Domes. Domes. Domes.

It's delayed onset. So Sunday, Monday of this week, I got rocked. Dude, people who have never had domes as easy for like them to make. make fun of people who complain about doms, but it is debilitating. You can barely move. It's awful. It's really brutal. It made me feel like I was like 65 years old.

Yeah. I was like, oh, this is what it's going to be like 30 years, 20, how old am I? 20 years from now, you know. Remember my calf? My calf doms at Grandex. Do you remember that? Vaguely. I have a video of it.

There was a week, like, not kidding, a week where I could barely, I couldn't even get around the office. It was terrible. Randy, can you put up the image from today's show? I've got a question mainly for you. For me, okay. Here we go, for the folks at home. Can you zoom in on me?

I'm sure that people. I just, I'm curious, what, why am I shushing? Am I about to shank, Dylan? What's going on? Yeah, dude, I'm just. What am I doing back there? Unsuspecting cellmate. Looks like you're going to shank somebody for sure.

Like, somebody's getting hurt. Why are y'all in jail? I don't know. Oh, because I'm the mugshot. Yeah, you're the muckshot guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. An all-time muck shot.

I don't understand the confusion here. Or Ross is somehow like in a different cell or like outside of the cell. I am. He's about to join us and I'm happy about it. Maybe I'm being booked. Yeah. Y'all are stoked for me to get in there, man. Dylan has no neck.

What are these prison outfits you've got? He's like, it was a classic, man. I googled. Hamburgler. Okay, if you want to know exactly how this all went down, I googled a prisoner behind bars. And then this stock. photo came up and then for like a Halloween costume I don't know he was just behind these bars and then that same guy in a related photo was this same was doing this pose I'm like you know what I'm just

I'm just gonna leave it and they're the same this same guy twice so Dylan's about to get Epstein yeah I have like a does that look like me to you yeah I mean yeah I have like a disassociation from that for era of myself where I look at that and I'm like that doesn't look anything like me, man. Sneaky flexing your height. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. True. The hair helped. That was after paint your date. So my hair was really stiff. That is paint on. You jumped off the parking garage. Yeah, they hosed me down in the jail. Did they? The paint didn't come off, though. They got a lot of it off. I was, as you know, after paint, I was covered head to toe. And I went to jail with no shoes and just in a bathing suit. The first thing they did was take me out back and legitimately hose me off.

Is that because of the painters? It's like, standing. Because they didn't want me getting paint all over the holding cell. Okay. So they took me out there and they hosed me down for like, I don't know, 20 minutes. It took a while. And then they stuck. I was the only person in the holding cell wearing like the county maroon jumpsuit because I didn't have regular clothing. Damn.

That's an Alzheimer man. And then I pissed myself in my sleep that night. I woke up in that. It was a bad night. It was not my favorite night. You wet the bed? Who wet the floor of the jail. Did they know?

they had given me a blanket and that got covered too so they found out one way there yeah no mattress to flip yeah no that's a tough thought a terrible strategy no it's not a good one don't do that anyway i was like 18 um you know shit happens sorry frat you've all been there you grow up you grow up you know yeah you start at some point you got to stop being the frat king and be something else this fucker never stopped this is this is the original frat king right yeah but You're the, you always, always saying that you're the new frack. I don't know if I took the crown from him. I think you replaced me, dude.

You said that you're going to snatch Ross's frat chain. I did. I don't even, you know, I don't do any fratting anymore. Do you see he's a gold chain guy? He's gold chain guy. I have, I have seen you with your slutty little chain. Fucking slutty, dude. God, he's trying so hard to have a slutty little summer.

Yeah. When I go out, when I step around town, I want people to look at me and think, that guy's probably going to put out tonight. What a whore? Yeah. Yeah. This guy's just out of her slinging dick. That's kind of like summer 25. That's kind of my vibe. Anybody could get that? That's what you'd say.

I'm very getable. Like this guy's, this guy's cruising, as they say. You whore. Okay. Well. Well, Ross, I've had a fun time in doing the show with you. I had fun with you guys, too. This is quick and easy podcasting is what I would call it. Before we let him out of here, let's talk Roeback. Oh, yeah. rowback of course has been a sponsor of ours for a long time i'm wearing a robeck polo right now this black john

from roback love it um coming up we got football season coming up and they have incredible um variety of different light like university license apparel they have q z and polos and hoodies they're all fantastic of course a polo for pretty much every occasion they're grit gym shorts we love I wore the everyday shorts yesterday with the liner. Those are also extremely comfortable. We love Roeback so much. And you can get 20% off at checkout with promo code

washed 20. As a one-time use code, washed 20. We'll get you 20% off at Roeback.com. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. What's next for Ross Bowling in 2025? I'm going to go get a haircut, and then I'll be back at the office to

find out exactly how much I just got bent over the table for by the plumber and the electrician and I'll probably spend the rest of the day moping about that. Yeah, I hear you. Sorry, man. That's pretty much it. Kids are back in school,

so schedule is solidifying. You know, that's nice. You like that. Did you post a back-to-school pick on Instagram? I put 15 of them today. I put some in my close friends, you know? Oh, interesting. I've changed up my strategy.

I don't like to, surely you're in my... I am. Just fucking money. Okay, good. I've changed... I don't like... putting my kids up publicly as much anymore. I don't know why. I would like when my son was first born, I like to more often, like, oh, you know, people want to be updated on this

stuff. A couple years removed, I'm like, eh, yeah, I don't know who's out there. Yeah, I have that thought. I don't think it, I know. It's one of, it's tough to judge, but yeah, I don't know. But I don't, to answer your question, I have no idea what's next for me. I don't know what I'm doing. He's a handsome lad. I'll tell you that. Thank you. Yeah. what's he into these days on the on the TV we watch a lot of Luca 2021 I believe Pixar I used to watch a lot of Luca too yeah I'm sorry everything reminds me of him yeah I never saw this movie when it came out he just randomly one day I was looking for something we threw it on during this two-week period of

late July where the school was completely closed it was no summer camp we had no childcare. It's just dying every day. I think we watched Luca 15 times in two weeks. Yeah, that don't happen. He became obsessed with it. I want to watch Luca. It's like, all right, dude. It's about, have y'all seen this. I definitely have seen this. I like it. It's solid. Yeah. Yeah. But he fucking loves it. Um, we're super deep in the minions world right now. I love the despicable me and like, I'm a big fan. To the point to where it's like, dad put on minions, like on Spotify, like when we're going somewhere, I'll take him to school. He wants to hear minions, the minions sing YMCA, or minions sing the Beatles Revolution. Oh, hell. I did see.

And it's like, part of me is like, oh, yeah, that's cool. This is like a, it's a new take on an old phase. Dude, that sneaky have a catalog. They do, but it's also like, he like can sing the minions language with the song. I'm like, is this healthy? Minionese. Yeah, minionese. And I'm like, on our way to Port A I mean we listen to he'll want to run the song back like five times I finally had to tell him like dude three times and then we're not listening

Yeah this is a tough thing You gotta cut it off They want to hear it's playing it over and over guys Yeah Mine do that too Parks got that way with that uh shanty song That got so popular See shanties?

Yeah Really Loves it Wellerman? Wellerman Oh I got that way That's like his also favorite song I got that way with that too

in 2020 or whenever that was Yeah I played that It was really short Because I know that it was big right before the Austin Freeze Yeah I kept singing it to myself Those songs Those sea shanties do something to your soul

Yeah it's really short so it would end He'd be like please again like all right man Yeah it's like a minute and a half Yeah Our souls you know The sea calls for us That's what I found We also have been listening to the

Chicken Wing song Chicken Wing chicken wing Hot dog and baloney. Oh, I don't even know that. You will. You'll know it. You will. You're going to, dude, and honestly isn't bad,

except for there's really not much to it outside of that. And it has like a, it has like a trap beat. Okay. Yeah. Looking forward to that era. It's kind of, yeah, and I'm like, I'm looking back and I'm like, okay. And then the Despicable Me Too song that Farrell does. Happy?

No, it's like, it's like a pure hip-hop song, but it's kind of ominous. and Rhodes knows some of my son knows some of the words and so he's back there kind of rapping that song and I'm like That's sick dude And like he gets like when I look at him When he's doing it he gets embarrassed Yeah

Which of course I mean I would too Back there spitting bars But I'm just like Okay I'm like this is kind of funny but So I felt about the Tyler the creator Grinch Yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah

When he did the whole soundtrack Yeah It's a good one Yeah Do you like his new album I'm gonna be late from my hair cut it was okay i don't really know what the fuck i was never a tyler guy i tried to listen to it it was just like it does some interest it's it's it's different i love tyler the

creator i'm 41 white as as much as i am aware of him anyway like you know i want to say i love him as a dude but i don't have any idea it could be a fucking serial killer behind the scenes you know how it is with celebrities um i i listened to it one time through and i haven't gone back that doesn't mean it's not good i'm just like you know we're old white his feature on Clips feature was great Great. All right, I have to go I'm going to be late for my hair I have to eat. I love you guys though.

We love you, I know to do your time's best selling out there OTH. W.R. Bullen. Look forward to seeing what everybody has to say about me on Reddit. OCC. Oh, man. Ross Bullen podcast.

Y'all are welcome for me not wearing pants so you could get my legs in today. I wanted to make sure I provided I make Dawn look huge. Yeah, thank you. It's nice. It's a nice. It's a nice.

Got you do. I hope you'll be back soon. I don't know if I'll get invited back after. No, you got an open-door policy. Let's see. friend. Love you guys. Goodbye.

There he goes. All right. All right. Let's run it back and get out of here. Run it back. Of course, his segment during which we talk about, we already talked about. Dave is super pissed off the people keep sending him sorority rush video. So please stop.

Somebody sent me another one. I'm going to have to watch it. Are you kidding me? Dave wants to learn more about Sidney Sweeney. So do send him stuff on Sydney. Yeah, I don't know what's up with this broad. Guest producer, Micah, once did 45 minutes on his top albums of the year. Hillary Duff brought her wagon to Law Barbecue.

Ross Wonders if Buck Cherry is still performing crazy bitch. And finally, Dave used to watch a lot of Luca, too. That concludes running back. Hit our Patreon. If you like this, dare I say it's even better. It's really good. Check out the Patreon. It's just good.

Check out. Listener voicemails recording today. See you. Bye. That's the best way of support Washington. Just subscribe to Patreon. We'd appreciate it. All right, love you.

Bye. Bye. You know what I'm going to be. Thank you.