Circling Back - We Didn't Start The Fyre

Episode Date: January 21, 2019

This past weekend, both Netflix and Hulu released their own documentaries on the nightmare that was Fyre Fest with Billy McFarland and Ja Rule. Naturally, we dissected them completely. We also broke down the daily routines of anonymous Wall Street traders as originally covered by The Cut. (0:30) Romo's Perfect Game / Dave's Viral Tweet (12:42) Breaking Down The Fyre Festival Documentaries (50:12) The Morning Routines of Wall Street Power Bankers Support us on Patreon and receive episodes every Friday for just $5 per month: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast Shop Early Bird CBD: www.earlybirdcbd.com (use 'CIRCLINGBACK' for 20% off) Shop Fulton & Roark: www.fultonandroark.com (code: steam) Twitter: www.twitter.com/circlingbackpod Instagram: www.instagram.com/circlingbackpod Visit: www.circlingbackpodcast.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/circling-back/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, we're back. Circling back podcast live from Austin, Texas. I'm Martin Luther King Day, nonetheless. Respect, Dr. Martin Luther King Day. Dr. Martin Luther King Day, nonetheless. Respect. Dr. Martin Luther King Day. Dr. Martin Luther King Day. Sorry. Put some respect on that name. My name's Will DeFreeze. To my right, Dave Roth. Dave's not here. This is semi-viral tweet guy. What did you get off? Is it semi-viral?

I missed it. It's semi-viral. Let's ask Dylan. It's a semi-viral tweet, Dylan. Dylan, how many retweets constitutes a semi-viral tweet? Semi-, how many retweets constitutes a semi-viral tweet? Semi-viral? Yeah. I would say 500. Oh, you went lower than I thought you would.

Semi-viral. Yeah. 500. What did Dave get? What are you at? I don't really want to talk about numbers. Are you micro-viral? It is micro-viral, but here's...

Micro-viral is lending 250. Hold on. Micro-viral is two. Will, Hold on. Microvirals too. Will, you commented early on that it was doing numbers. Yeah. And then once you gave me that seal of approval, that's when I classified it as a semi-viral tweet. I'm going to change my answer to $1,000.

Four digits for semi. That's probably fair. I think you shouldn't be upset about a micro viral tweet oh i'm not it's not even a good tweet it was it was a decent what's the tweet and how many rts we talking thanks for following at d carter rough on twitter and snap for that matter i'm sorry i was watching three hours of firefest documentaries last night i actually spent much time on twitter i actually do follow you and i commented on it from my account which is at will to freeze on twitter and instagram uh the tweet which was sent in real time while watching the AFC Championship game,

it says, I'll tell my kids about the day that Tony... Let me read that again. Sorry. I'll tell my kids about the day Tony called the perfect game. Because there was a lot of Romo tweets going off because people were like... People's heads were exploding by how good Romo was doing. Wait, you weren't watching the game? You were watching Firefest Docs? I didn't know what tweet you were talking about.

Oh, okay. I missed it. Yeah, I watched the entire game, and then I watched Firefest Docs. It was a late night show, boy. We were talking off mic before this, but Will's got some issues with Romo, but he respects what Romo can do as

far as looking at a scheme and predicting. It was amazing seeing him call everything out, and it made it better from a fan's perspective. I don't like Romo anyway, but it was amazing. For somebody who, I mean, me, who doesn't How do you not like Romo? He's a Wisconsin guy.

It's basically the mitten, right? No. Is that the original mitten? God. The whole Wisconsin versus Michigan controversy of what state looks more like a mitten is literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You look like a mitten. I might look like a mitten. People down here in Texas aren't even aware that that's a controversy.

It's a controversy. People in Wisconsin think that Wisconsin looks like a mitten. It could not look less like a mitten. I almost feel like it's one big troll job. Like Wisconsinites have this like powwow together and they're like, all right, let's get together. Let's just mess with Michigan. Let's say that we look like a mitten. Speaking as someone who has no horse in this race, obviously, Michigan looks a lot like

a mitten. Yeah. Wisconsin is not even on my mitten radar right now. No. No. So I'm going to give this one to the Michigan people. Thank you. You're welcome. Like we're the mitten state. That's what we are. Yeah. Hit the music. on my mitten radar right now. No. No. So I'm going to give this one to the Michigan people. Thank you. You're welcome.

Like, we're the mitten state. That's what we are. Yeah. Hit the music. Is there mitten music? It's just two mittens just rubbing together? Here's what I like most about Romo. It's the bird man doing the hands together gif,

but he's got mittens on. Here's what I like most about Romo. Most of the people watching the game, 95 plus percent of the people watching the game, don't understand all the complexities of the game all the priest priest net movements myself included yeah same we know dude i know i know there's a there's a method to all that there's a lot going on um romo does a great job of breaking it down for the casual football fan it's like this is why this is happening they

need to oh that's really interesting. If the NFL actually makes it to England and has a team in England and does that, Romo needs to call every fucking game over there for everyone in England so that they can get a better understanding for the game. Yeah, good thought. I really

enjoy that. I learned a lot last night. I think he's at his best when he's calling Brady because I think he loves Brady. Probably. And he's watched more Patriots film than night. I think he's at his best when he's calling Brady because I think he loves Brady. Probably. And he's watched more Patriots film than anybody. I think he just like, even when he was playing, he would watch Brady film. I don't know if this is true or not, but you know, he's watching the GOAT. Because

every time I watch him do a Patriots game, it seems like he knows exactly what they're going to do. He probably watched Brady film to base his own game off of. Is he calling the Super Bowl? Oh, yeah. Really? We're getting Nance and Roams.

They need to have just a mute button for his groans. No. I like him. I hate him. Here we go. Oh, we're getting Nance? He loves the fact that he's going to watch a game. Like, he's going to be there for a big game, and he's going to call it. He loves it.

He's totally torqued. Yeah. There's a reason he doesn't stand up in the booth because he is at full staff at all times everyone go follow circling back pod on twitter and instagram if you haven't already also go subscribe on apple podcast and spotify this is this is some homework for you guys i know we gave you homework over this weekend to watch the fire festival documentaries but i have more. If you have any other platforms that you listen to this podcast on or that you would like to

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Also, shouts to everyone who subscribed on patreon it was it's been a massive success thus far i think friday's episode which was just listener voicemails and this weekend and fun was an absolute blast that was a fun fun episode i've listened to it twice wow if you did you pay for it? Did you contribute? Are you a backer? Well. If you haven't already, go to patreon.com slash circling back podcast for $5. You can get weekly listener voicemail episodes every single Friday. We're going to drop them early for you so you can just sit at your desk and, you know,

kick your feet up and waste all your time on Friday. And you might see some other content up there, some editorial stuff. I think we're going to hopefully add some new tiers later so we can get some bigger picture content up there. I didn't get a chance to call everyone who has not signed up yet. Yeah. Who's on the fence. But people, did you? I put out some calls friday night after

dinner did you actually do that really not friday night after dinner yeah i did really yeah dude you were gone off those mexican martinis low-key yeah yeah how many did you have i just had one martini okay that'll still i mean that'll still do it. I wasn't the guy drinking them right out of the shaker. That's what we always do. What? People do that. Yeah, I know. Especially if you order one at the bar, they just give it to you in the shaker.

They even ask you, do you want a shaker? I was just pointing out, I didn't say who was. You were talking about me. There were some implications there. I was talking about you. Yeah. You had a couple. I did.

Can I do one final plea for the people out there yeah uh worst weekend stories it was an old thing we used to do on mondays we're not going to do it this week i know that people want it i'll be honest it's because uh the stories that were submitted last night were uh small in volume i received all of two you might be sending it to my old email address please don't do that uh if you want to do be sending it to my old email address please don't do that if you want to do it send it to

will at washedmedia.com will at washedmedia.com do I have an email? yeah it's dave at washedmedia.com

it's not dave it is dave it's dave tight I went with the party email is that okay? I want party boy emails only yeah

unless you're looking to party don't email me. Wow. We don't have the light on in here. No. Should I hit it? It's a chill morning. Is it because of Super Blood Wolf Moon?

Dude, that's the tightest name for a moon I've ever heard in my life. Did y'all see my viral photo? We're the only planet doing Super Wolf... What's it called? Super Blood Wolf Moon? We're the only planet doing Super Blood Wolf Moons. I got a really good shot off with my telescope. It has a camera built in.

Dude, that was really impressive stuff you did. That was a sharp image. There's nothing better than people posting their own photos of the Super Moon. Yeah, they're all so good. Yeah. I can't stop looking at them. Yeah, I also love when people do sunsets. iPhones just capture them perfectly.

Yeah. I was leaving the gym last night, and the sun was setting. It was a dope sunset in Austin last night. I don't know if y'all caught it. I did take a picture, but I kept it to myself. I didn't post it. Thank you for that. You didn't feel like going micro-viral?

I didn't feel like going micro-viral. I would have thrown you on the trigger and smoked you. Really? Yeah, for about 45 minutes at 220. I would probably have died if that happened right okay i uh i didn't see the moon last night i didn't i just didn't even make an attempt like i thought about it and i was like i'm pretty tired i had too much tv to watch it was it was cool uh unfortunately my iphone x not to brag it didn't really really take in the moment. Dude, what are you talking about?

There were so many good stories up on social media today of the exact same photo of a shitty moon that just looked like a firefly. That's the tweet that should have gone semi-viral. That was a better tweet. You're right. I agree with that. Sometimes there's, okay, it happens during Bachelor, but to a much bigger extent when you know the entire country is watching a game and everybody's kind of in the same mindset. You fire off the tweets more, maybe it's a statement of fact

and it's not that great. It's going to do more numbers than it should. Bachelor is like peak, like I don't deserve these retweets, but I'm going to get them because I'm watching. I did it last night with the Sunday Scaries account. I just did an Edelman tweet. It was the lowest hanging fruit. It was so low that it might as well have been just a seed in the ground.

And you proclaimed that he did touch the ball. Very demonstratively on Twitter. I just said touched it. He touched it. He didn't touch it, though. Yeah, he clearly didn't. Yeah. Yeah, I guess he didn't.

I thought he did for the longest time. Then they showed two camera views right in succession. And I was like oh nope I guess not I thought the first couple times I watched it I thought I saw a little bit

part of the glove catch leather and it moved a little bit but I was I was wrong you were wrong it happens

sports guy incorrect yeah you know what I did yesterday when I woke up I don't I have no idea

I felt like chill on and so I I for the first time ever I ate a CBD gummy. Oh. Oh, I had one last night, too. Did you get max chill?

Yeah, that's kind of why I didn't make it through the second documentary. Did you do the 30 mil? I did a 30 milligram. We got these. I got the hookup from Early Bird. Yep, we got it from Early Bird CBD. If you go to earlybirdcbd.com, you can buy premium CBD online with fast and free shipping. If you support them, you're supporting our first sponsor ever.

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I'm more of a full spectrum guy. I think the ISO is like creams that you put on one area of your like knee or whatever. All I know is that 30 milligram they gave me samples of was very great. I asked my buddy, I was like, hey, so like what dosage do you usually take? Because he does it like almost every day. A thousand. And this was after I had done the 30. And he was like, oh, i do like 10 and i was

like oh oh okay so i just did three times more than you and i've never done this before let's see how this goes did it relax you yeah yeah very much i enjoyed it well well slept they also have uh tinctures topicals uh vape cartridges and vape pens any way to ingest your cbd they have it if you want to toss cb clouds, you can do that. Yeah. I mean, we do have a, I think it's 20% off code. Is that what it is? Yeah.

If you use circling back at checkout, again, on earlybirdcbd.com, circling back at checkout, 20% off. Please support them. Call them on Twitter, too. Yeah. They support this pod. They're getting tweets off. I see them.

We see you tweeting. Oh, they're getting a hell of tweets off. I know what you're doing over there. I see you. Should we talk about what we assigned for the people at home? Yeah. What was that? The thing that set the internet on fire this weekend.

Literally. I didn't mean to do that the fire festival documentaries oh i didn't okay i'll be honest i didn't realize they were coming out i knew that the hulu one dropped the day before but i didn't really think they were going to be as big of a deal as they were yes and i was a hell out of that move hulu is savage yeah they are that's the first time i fired up my hulu in probably two years still pay for it monthly uh you know let's let's not talk about that that's foolish i'm a silly silly bitch wait they didn't plan to orchestrate the release of these they just kind of happened at the same time they so netflix netflix had theirs planned to come out and then hulu was also working on something and they decided to drop

theirs a day before to get ahead of the story and this also had this also had to do with some of the content in the hulu documentary regarding jerry media they wanted to set the narrative before the netflix one came out which was produced by some of the same people that worked for jerry media that had a hand in this entire don Don't get Dylan steaming on Jerry Media. I got a feeling he could really, really steam. I didn't even get my flip-flops. Don't get me started

on Jerry Media. I forgot my flip-flops at home, so I can't go in the steam room today. I brought my towel today. Don't worry. I'll go in barefoot if you really want to go in. Do you want me to carry you in

and just set you down on the... No. Okay. I mean, I don't have a whole lot to say about Jerry Media other than, you know... Oh, I do. ...the obvious.

I do. Those guys are fucking scumbags. They're scumbags, yeah. Everyone from the top down. The Elliot Tabool guy or whatever his name is. I'm new here to the internet. What is Jerry Media? I just know them as Fuck Jerry.

I mean, they run the Fuck Jerry account. Essentially, Fuck Jerry got a bunch of Instagram followers and was like, Oh, I'm successful. I'm going to make a media company with eight of my douchiest friends. That's me, but with... I'm kidding. That's essentially what we did on a smaller scale. He built his success off stealing content from people.

And not crediting anybody for it. It's crazy that they would have deceived the general public for this Fyre Fest stuff. Crazy. Okay. Let's set the stage. I had a phone call with that guy one time, by the way. Why? Me and the ex-co-founder of Grand X, Ryan, we had a phone call.

His name's Elliot. We were just talking about, quote-unquote, collabing on something. I don't know. On viral media? I don't know what it was. We had a phone call with him, and it probably lasted 10, 15 minutes. We did 99% of the talking. He sat there and gave like, okay, yeah, yeah, sounds good.

Well, you want to know why? The entire time. Because the guy's got nothing going on. He's a clown. He's an asshole. He goes on Reddit, and he sorts by top for the past 24 hours, finds something that the fat Jew hasn't posted, and then he just goes and posts it.

And then he crops out the person that actually posted it in the first place. Does he still crop people out? I don't follow those accounts. I don't know. I don't follow them either. I only follow Daquan, as we've discussed. That's the only one I follow. If someone sends me a meme from one of those accounts,

you're either getting hashtag unfollowed or hashtag blocked. Wow. Okay. So that wasn't... We derailed. What's Fyre Fest? There's people who...

I feel like you had to be in on the internet to know the full extent of what went down. Because Alyssa, my wife, she knew some topical stuff about it, but she didn't know how intricate this was. Okay, when Fy fire fest unfolded on online like when when we got word here at the mainland that you know fire fest was happening in the disaster that it was it was like the best two weeks on twitter that was the most fun i've had that was twitter was at its at its best no no it was at its second best what

was first vine shutdown day uh that was fun oh Vine Shutdown Day. That was fun. Oh, yeah. That was fun. Vine Shutdown Day was so entertaining. Okay, 1A, 1B for me. I just remember when this was going down, we were all working in the same office. And we would just walk out of our... I think I still had an office at that point. Or maybe we were in building one. No, no, no.

We were in building one. We would just look at each other. We were in Contin Alley. That was early Contin Alley. When the cheese sandwich dropped, we were in continent alley that was early sandwich drop we were like i said i somehow missed all the pre-promotion for this festival which apparently well i've watched it eventually of course when everything started to unfold but i missed the whole wave of like the build-up to fire fest i saw it and i thought to myself a couple things like one i still don't grasp what this is about. Yeah. I see Bella Hadid

like on a jet ski, but this doesn't tell me anything about what this actually is going to be. And then secondly, when I started realizing there was a music festival,

all I could think of was this is too good to be true. Yeah. Like even if I decided, even if I had the money to go, I don't think I would have gone because there's no way that you can give

that many people a luxury experience at what they were promising so even if you did try to go and you were deceived by everything like that's still kind of on you the big red flag if you watched any of the marketing videos or their posts on social media the big red flag is they didn't show any actual festival footage no pictures they just had like you said supermodels on jet skis in crystal clear water just frolicking around on the beach and all this stuff. And that's how they promoted a music festival with cabanas. It was weird.

Don't forget pigs. Pigs. Yeah, the pigs that are out there. They said one of the pigs bit billy's dick yeah no his balls it was his testicles his ball sack well he i think he deserved it hey um i can tell you this as somebody who i'm weary of the festival we do acl because it's here and a lot of times we you know got access through our old company uh i don't necessarily want to go to a festival that's in my backyard because even at its best,

and even with great restrooms and everything, it's still a pain in the ass. It's still kind of a beating. You're still in a very, very crowded place. I can't imagine seeing that and being like, I'm going to fly to an island, a private island, and do this, and I'm going to have that same kind of feeling, and it's never been done before.

Like, it would have been a huge red flag. The ticket tiers for this are just a waste. They were a waste of money. Oh, my God. If you have $25,000 to spend on some shitty cabana, like, because even, I mean, let's just be... It didn't exist. Let's be honest here.

The photos of the cabanas that they were posting, that they were selling for, like, $25, 25 grand and stuff those weren't great cabanas anyway they were great for a music festival but wouldn't you rather just take that 25 000 and just take a really sick vacation yes and when you booked the the cabana or the villa they had several tiers of like outrageous stuff didn't have pictures of actual structures. No. They had artist renderings of what it will look like when you show up. I'm out on artist renderings.

So you have to just trust, I hope it's ready by the time I get there and it looks as dope as it does on the website, but I have no idea because it doesn't actually exist yet. Two things. First, the only cabana I support is Taco Cabana. Oh, yeah.

Sneaky shout. No, that's trash. Two. Two. Two. No one's talking about that Billy was rolling around his office on a hoverboard. No. No one's talking about that. And more people need to talk about that.

Well, there's a whole lot of other shit to talk about. Before we get into Billy, I do have a question. Which one did you enjoy more? Between Netflix and Hulu. I watched Netflix Saturday, Hulu Sunday. a question which one did you enjoy more between netflix and hulu watch i watched netflix saturday hulu sunday i kind of liked hulu better i felt like it was more digestible and more more fun i don't know i liked hulu better and it was because they got more into billy's background they had billy too and they had billy and i felt like i mean this might just be like the the media just swaying me

but i felt like it was more genuine when i after i realized that the jerry media guys had a producer credit yeah in the netflix documentary did not know that i like they made money off of this catastrophe yes i like the characters in the netflix one more everyone that they interviewed i like the dude with the long hair. Yeah, he was very revealing. He's a real one. Yeah, he was tight. He's a real one. I forgot his name,

the older, the gay one that's talked about sucking dick. For Evian? Yeah, sucking dick for Evian. Evian. Evian. We've been there. Dude, this is the most broke boy shit ever.

You don't know how to say Evian. I was repeating you. I was... Wait, were you Evian one? You get it in my head. I wish I was Avi on one, but it was Evian one. Oh, bro. I mean, he...

Like... Hold on. People who don't know, like... There's so many characters. So, like, they interview. So, both of these docs, they have people that were either involved. They have a guy who was with Fuck Jerry or Jerry Media who's not with them anymore in the Hulu doc. I liked him a lot.

He was great. He was the guy who was coordinating this entire thing, doing the social media on Fuck Jerry's Instagram page. He was middle fingers in the air. He went scorched earth. Shout out to him. And then they had the dude who was in both docs who kind of blew the whistle, started the fake or the uh the account uh fire fraud on twitter who's like a vc guy a venture capitalist that guy was kind of a tool he has an axe to grind with billy dude and i love it that dude he is just a bitter axe yeah i would love to know what

happened he was the smartest guy that there was, because he went and he sued separately out of the class action lawsuit. So he got five million bucks. I missed that. Yeah. That's tight. He cleared five mil. I'm sure he didn't need it. He's a VC guy in New York.

Do you think everyone listening right now is aware of what this festival was supposed to be and what it ended up being? Or do you need to explain that part of it? No. Okay. I think we've explained it well enough. Well, let's... Yeah, y'all talk. I'm going to pull up the ban list, and we're going to go through.

And I want to also point out, it's a travesty that no one in this room has offered influencer access to Firefest. Kind of insulting. We dodged a bullet, but it was insulting. Those were, Dylan, what's the lowest tier of bottled water that you would S&D for to save Firefest? I'm not S&D for Nestle, that's for sure sure you're not doing it for like osaka i i don't to be honest i don't think i'm

gonna sd for any any kind of water what about sanpelli whoa oh that's it's just different yeah for sanpelli i would definitely consider yes i get it for avion that's a luxury water vos i get it hey can I throw a quick side note? If it's Fiji, I mean, nothing's off the table. Yeah, Fiji's legit too. I mean, if it's like Dasani, though, that's when you're like, all right, I think I'm just going to get a flight home.

So what we're talking about in the Netflix doc, they talk about there's a guy who's been like a mentor to Billy. He's worked with him for years. And to get all the bottled water you have to pay a tax through you know it's got to go through customs they didn't have it was like what 900k it was insane it was insane amount of money or that was for the booth i think it was like 150 150 yeah you know and uh apparently he is a he's a man he's a gay man, and Billy basically directed him to go down there to the customs official and offer up oral sex in exchange for the bottle of water. Mouth jibber.

Yeah. I'll say this, though, about this guy. He was down for it. He was like, fuck it, I'll do it because I want this thing to be. I mean, as someone who hopes to have employees at some point in my life, I will never direct them to do something like that. I would hope not. But I want a dude on my team who's so dedicated that he's like that dude.

That guy's a real one. Yes. That guy is dedicated. Yeah. I need him on my team. Can I drop a quick side? He was basically the Micah of the Firefighters. Yeah.

Let me drop a quick sidebar. Quick sidebar. Yeah. The whole time I was watching these shows, I was thinking, oh my God, Billy McFarlane looks just like Seth McFarlane. Yeah. Wait. So I looked it up.

I was like, they have to be related. Cousins, brothers, something. And I found some talk about it online. Then I realized that, wait a minute, Seth McFarlane spells his last name completely different. Damn it. But they look so much alike. Oh, it's weird. So if you type in Billy MacFarlane, it's one of the first things that Google tries to give you.

It's crazy. They look so much alike. So much alike. MacFarlane, Billy MacFarlane. I want to give major shouts to Billy. I'm not sure how he did it, but he lost a significant amount of weight between being told he had to go to jail and when he did the interview for the Hulu documentary. Oh, he actually revealed this. What did he do?

Tapas cocaine. Yeah, wasn't it? Actually, that would be the least surprising thing in the world if he did it using tapas and cocaine. What an absolute sleazebag this guy is. He got his start. And Will, I know you've got some takes on Magnesis. Is it Magnesis?

Dude, I need a Magnesis card like I need air to breathe. We got to start our own card. Magnesis. Is it Magnesis? Dude, I need a Magnesis card like I need air to breathe. We got to start our own card. Magnesis. The fact that he admitted to spelling it wrong is hilarious. It's a metal card. I spelled it wrong. It's a bootleg black card. Apparently when you sign up, there's like a vetting process and they ask you questions about you.

Like your social influence and stuff? Yeah, social influence. And like, where do you shop? What do you do for fun? Imagine being someone that had a Magnesis card, which is fine. If you want to go to exclusive shit, whatever. But imagine being someone in the documentary

whose photo was posted at one of the Magnesis parties. Dude, there's nothing worse than a Magnesis party. I can tell you that right now. That is a bunch of pretenders. That is so bad. It's a bunch of pretenders. That is so bad. It's a bunch of people that don't have friends that sign up for a card in New York that have money to burn

who are just like, all right, I guess I'm going to join this. Magnesis is all the worst people on your LinkedIn at a party drinking. Yeah. That's what Magnesis is. It's the dudes that post things on your LinkedIn that are like one sentence and then enter

and then it's like 20 lines long. It's a bunch of... About how they started their own their own company yes it's dudes who really don't do anything except for talk about how to start a business and be motivational on LinkedIn who then go and they drink like five whiskey sours it's a bunch of probably throw up off the you know the the condo like the balcony of their townhouse it is a bunch of billies. That being said, like, if I could get, like, influencer access

to a magnesis card, like, I would totally use it. Stop. We even talked about jaw rule. We got to get into jaw. I have minimal jaw takes. I legit feel that he was completely hoodwinked

in this whole thing. I don't. I don't. I really do. I don't. I don't. He was just so into, like, the partying aspect of it and hanging out with supermodels and at the beach and making money. I just trust these guys.

Did you watch all of the Hulu doc? No, I fell asleep. Well, you didn't get to see the very, very end. What happened? Well, at the very end, they're kind of showing where are they now. And they show Ja on some, I don't know if it's a podcast or radio show where like the whole premise is like you're sitting at a table, like getting hammered with your guest. Yeah.

And he just, he basically, he implicates himself. I don't know where he's at in like, as far as like any criminal matters or any civil matters. He, he, he says it was my vision and he might be just trying to flex a little bit,

but like he definitely, whoever his lawyer is should not have let him go on that show that's not good getting hammered and publicly speaking into a mic like come on that's like us talking at say by the brunch number one like i don't know i was just happy he didn't drag ashanti into this that would have been i kept waiting for her to pop up and i was gonna be very. She did not have anything to do with this, to my knowledge. You can't work that closely and be such boys with Billy McFarland that you end up not knowing what's going on. Like, they had a toast that they did together about banging porn stars. That is the most uncomfortable toast I've ever seen.

Yeah. It was such a bad toast that even Ja Rule did not want to finish it. He made Billy finish it. Dude, Ja Rule, a big part of my high school and college... You know, he was making hits. And he's just such a tool. He said that in a room full

of Bella Hadid and Hailey Bieber, Baldwin. And it was just weird. Wait, that's Bieber's wife? Hailey Baldwin. Yeah, that's Bieber's current wife. Her stock is Hailey Baldwin, yeah. That's Bieber's current wife, yeah. Her stock is on the rise for me. Because she's a 10?

Is that why? I don't know. Can you imagine standing up and having to give a toast in front of them, and that's what you came up with? First of all, that's like a toast you give in high school, like sophomore year when you got into your dad's rum. Imagine the cringing going on. I was cringing.

There were so many moments in this where i was cringing and that was probably the most cringe the there's like a short clip that they use whenever they wanted to explain how bad billy was and it was him standing on a private jet with this when while like laughing and they did it in slow motion to make him look a little maniacal and that clip is just wronging him so bad because it kind of implicates that he's laughing at something that he shouldn't be laughing at. Like when he called everybody going, your average loser.

Yeah. Not a good look. Yeah. I mean, look, I get it. Like Will says that stuff about our fans all the time. I've never said that once. He's Billy, Billy, Billy. Oh, my God.

And he was cooking up a new scheme while he was... During the whole fallout of Fyre Fest. Dude, he's no days off, dude. You can't sell tickets to events you don't have. He's a grind boy. No, you got to give him that. I thought for sure that when I was watching the Netflix doc, I was like, oh, he sold the email list.

And, you know, that was probably a smart move. Yeah, I was thinking that, too. He did not sell the email list. And that was probably a smart move. Yeah, I was thinking that too. He did not sell the email list. Can you think of a sketch of your company named an NYC VIP access? No. Nah. No.

Who's naming companies like that? Dude. And when you're selling that gala. And when the subject line of an email that's trying to sell you bootleg tickets has emojis in it, it's like no one's buying your shit, dude. Apparently 15 people did though. Do you know what Billy's doing right as we speak? He's in jail. Yeah, but do you know what he tickets has emojis in it it's like no one's buying your shit dude apparently do you know what billy's doing right as we speak he's in jail yeah but do you know what he's doing

in jail you fell asleep you fell asleep for the end of the hulu one so you don't know what you're doing yeah he's grinding in jail he's currently teaching a class to fellow inmates about music business he doesn't know the music business they don't know that they think he's a genius okay they're like dude bill Billy's my dude. Here's another thing. Biggest red flag in the entire thing. The way Billy says crayon

multiple times. That's how Will says it though. It's a northern way. Crayon. You fucker. Billy says crayon. You know what the biggest red flag is for people? People that say crown. No one's saying crayon.

Yes, they do. People say crayon. People say crayon fast, and it sounds like crown. Crayon. It's crayon. Crayon. Crayon. Crayon.

It's not crayon. Crayon. So nobody pointed this out in the doc, but I don't know if you guys saw Wayne's World 2, but this is essentially Wayne's Doc, only it doesn't work out in the end. I did not see Wayne's World 2. Okay. Did you? Imagine, no, imagine dropping all that money and showing up insane in a FEMA tent

that's just covered in rainwater. So both documentaries show the footage of the bus arriving and everybody's reaction. And I think everybody kind of knew that there was a good chance of this thing being a complete disaster, which makes me wonder why they got on the plane because they're all kind of laughing. It's like shared, uh, bad experience.

Like where everybody kind of bands together, like, Oh my God, this is going to suck, but it's so bad. It's funny. Let's just get real. I'm the type of person that before I do something big, I just spend a lot of time vetting it. If I'm going to a restaurant for like a group dinner i look at the menu online for like an hour before because i'm like i need to know exactly what i'm getting so that i don't have to think about it when i get to this group dinner if i'm going to like when i would go to

the kentucky derby i'd be like all right i want to know like where i should go and what i should do and i would do all this stuff oh if i was going to fire festival i would have been like reading up i would have had google news alerts set up up so that I didn't get into this. If I'm booking a vacation, I'm really anal about it. If there's a virtual tour, I will know every square inch of the place I'm going to stay in. How do you book a vacation at something like Fyre Fest and not have any idea of what you're staying at? They had no idea what they were showing up to be at. Do you know who came off the worst in this whole thing?

It was those two influencers from the Hulu doc. The girl, the good-looking brunette, and then the dude, the skinny blonde guy. Who actually got themselves a... She got a villa, right? Villa, yeah. And they showed clips of her doing some dance, and it was just...

Well, she was like... In the documentary, she was like, I felt bad. And then they showed video of her dancing in the villa, and it was like she well she was like she in the documentary she was like i feel i felt bad and then they showed video of her like dancing in the villa and it was like all right you didn't have that she had a comment when they got on the plane which i guess they pitched the planes as they were going to be private jets which that no i'm sorry you knew that wasn't going to be a pj that you were flying to the island on but she made some comment like this is worse than like the lowest economy class. Yeah, and it was like, all right.

I mean, the plane that you're in is literally economy class. That's what everyone flies in. Shut up. Not that bad. I've flown on some pretty shitty planes. She was one of the most insufferable. She was featured in both. When everyone shows up to check in and go to their tents,

and there was just complete chaos, and finally Billy was like, just go get a tent. And so it was just a mad rush. Everyone just sprinting to tents. That's the worst thing you can do. Oh, my God. Did you get to the part where they actually had a guy who worked under Billy that said that they had been,

he had a laptop open, and he was actually getting it to where there was some organization, and they had checked in a number of people, then billy just like completely trashed that so go get your fucking tent yeah you want to know why because billy shoots from the hip he really does did he think that this is okay i got a number of questions what did he think that there was any anything he could salvage from this like yeah it was a disaster another band showed up but maybe people will just party for two days, get drunk, and it'll be like,

looked at as like glass half full. Well, it's like they said in the Netflix one, you know, like the original Woodstock, people died, like shit went bad. I didn't know that. People forgot. Woodstock 99, no one forgot about the bad things

that happened at Woodstock 99, right? No. Because like they acted like people just like swept that under the rug. Like that was crazy. That was well known as a disaster. That was bad. I don't know.

They knew the bands weren't going to come. Did any bands show up? No. That is such... So for the rain that happened the night before, you know, that devastated everything, before you know like that like devastated everything they could have just been like hey this this tropical storm wiped out everything but they didn't have insurance so they were still going to be down like they needed those people to actually

show up to like insurance no i don't know i thought they overplayed the rain because even if all that's dry you still have fema tents yes like the rain like it made it for a better story and you could be like oh symbolic but can you imagine sleeping on a wet mattress in one of those tents that's a hundred times worse than sleeping on a dry mattress in one of those tents yeah wet mattresses is less than i have a question mattress if i was one of the people who attended this festival and everything happened that happened and they sent me home right away. Have they done anything to those people to make it right? Was there any kind of refund issue?

I think there's a class action lawsuit. There's a class action. Okay. What does that mean for the laypersons? I'm not sure. Legal Dave, you handle this. I'll botch it. There will probably be a settlement and you'll get a check.

It's like, have you ever gotten a check from an old apartment complex or something that you forgot you lived in? And they got sued, and it turns out they were doing something like charging too much or didn't give you some notice or something. And you're like, oh, I got – I think NYC, he just got one of those. NYC Twitter follow guy. Yeah, 27 male NYC. Yeah, sorry. I botched your handle he just got one of those. NYC Twitter follow guy. Yeah, 27 male NYC. Yeah, sorry, I botched your handle. He got one recently. People will get a check, but it'll be down the road.

Where's the money coming from? Because Fyre Fest doesn't have any. I mean, they're going to have no assets. They're going to sue. They're suing everybody. So if you looked at the people that are named, I think the big class action one names some of the influencers. It names the Jerry Media guys too.

It names Jerry Media guys. It names, I mean, Ja Rule's named. You throw everybody's name in there and hopefully you can collect from somebody. But yeah, like Billy McFarland, he's got that penthouse still, right? Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there's a homestead exemption in New York. You can't lose your home on a judgment judgment but i have a question if you're attending that and you see how shitty fire fest is why don't you just go a little

further down exuma and just party it up at the regatta probably because you dropped 30 grand to go to the stupid festival yeah but you know you got to get the fuck out just go party at the regatta that sounds lit how about you just go to Sandals? Yeah, Sandals is right there. Sandals is lit. Yeah. Everybody knows that. Dude.

You ever been to Sandals? No. I've been to a Sandals. Not a Sandals. I went to a Sandals once. It was lit. Sandals gets a bad rap, but Sandals is tight.

I mean, being at a Sandals in a tropical place is better than being in my living room. Yeah, I agree with that. I've been in your tropical place is better than being in my living room. Yeah, I agree with that. I've been in your living room. Yeah, everyone says that. Yeah.

We haven't even talked about Grant, the marketing guy. Oh, my God. Dude, he... Did he put out Jonah Hill, Wolf of Wall Street vibes? Yes. He also, like, he got done pretty well in the Netflix documentary, in my opinion. And then in the Hulu documentary, they just dragged him. Yeah, they exposed him.

His notes on how to produce the promotional videos beforehand, the trailers, so cringy. It reeked of Adderall. Yes. The stuff he was talking about, I don't know who ever thinks of that. Was he like an African music minor in college? Because he was just talking about using instruments that I've never even heard of. That's a dude who went on Wikipedia for like tropical instruments and then just started name dropping. Did you see what Armand is doing now?

He's an EMT. He's giving his life to public service. He did pivot. He had to. So he's also named in that class action. I saw he already has a thirty thousand dollar uh fine against him from the uh sec yes which that's not that bad no i thought that too like i mean it would ruin me honestly these guys all kind of got off easy billy getting

six years that's not bad for billy no he deceived so many people for a guy who who tried to re like re defraud while he was out on bail. Somebody had a great line in the Hulu one and it said, uh, it's the time where you should be committing the least amount of crimes. It was the, the Asian lady who was really good. The people that got the most wrong by this weren't the,

uh, the music festival goers. It was the people that worked for the fire app that were just getting hung out to dry yeah the actual app people yeah the girl that was on the phone with him when he was telling them that they weren't getting paid but they also weren't getting fired right i would have gone to his penthouse and choked him out she put it together pretty quickly that he was avoiding you know the employee benefits his answer that was just like i'm not really familiar with how unemployment works dude you run the employee benefits his answer that was just like i'm not really familiar with how

unemployment works dude you own the company uh did y'all like that uh tro ballins got a tweet posted in there on the netflix one i loved it i didn't see that yeah yeah he got a little shout out that was the best time on twitter actually watching from afar was so much fun wasn't his tweet about if anyone would has anybody seen my lexus i3 or something i forget i remember seeing it at the time it's so funny i wonder if i had any good tweets during that time there's only one way to find out i'm gonna search twitter right now and just see if i had anything while you're looking at that can i make a statement yeah potentially the most lame thing about fire fest was how they tried to market it as on Pablo Escobar's old island.

Oh, Pablo Escobar. Why is that cool? That's not appealing. No. They get kicked off of it. It appeals to people like, oh, dude, Pablo. Yeah, man. My Firefest tweets were absolutely terrible.

Really? Yeah, I regret them. Give me your worst. Go through all of ours and tell us our worst. I only had a couple, but my most notable one was just having so much fun at Fyre Fest with the squad, and then I took a bunch of screenshots

from the movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio called The Beach. Okay. It's not terrible. It didn't perform well. Everybody was doing the Tom Hanks one. Yeah. The Castaway.

Yeah. See, I went a different direction. And someone did tweet, Firefest is for Instagram influencers, a.k.a. snotty white kids, per Dylan Chivary. How did Will LaFreeze not get invited? That's cyberbullying. It is cyberbullying.

We don't stand for that. I do want to give a shout out to our old ad guy and friend of the pod, T-Man. Oh, T-Man's on fire. He's just doing fire tweets. He leaves Grand X and starts doing hella content.

What's he doing? He's getting good tweets off too. Serious. Okay, I found a tweet and I'm actually, I was wronged. No one's talking about the fact that there was a random pool filled with balls, a ball pit at Fyre Fest outside the FEMA tents. Yeah.

And I said, what would even go down in this? You know, and then someone says, what is it with the ball pits at absolute abortion level of failed festivals? Okay, I'm sorry. There's some funny responses to that that tweet i can't read nobody wants to do a ball pit at a festival let's just say that no one wants to do ball pits anyway they're disgusting there's nothing but doo-doo and pee-pee in those things do we have any closing thoughts on fire festival we've we've gone pretty deep on this i'm glad it happened because i wasn't a part of it and I got to watch from afar and enjoy it and it lives on. Ja Rule's like

planning something similar. He has the actual app, the Fire app. It's called Icon that he just pivoted and rebranded it. Dude. It's how you book talent,

allegedly. I don't know if I'm going to a Ja Rule music festival. No, his credibility kind of has taken a blow with me. Dave, you didn't go through the artists

that were playing at this okay i'll just name a few so blink 182 they were the first to be like by the way probably not a good idea who is good good music good music is like a it's a bunch of different artists but it's like t kanye uh there's cuddy in there i could have sworn that at one point drake was involved with those guys but I don't think he is. Because he's OVO. I'm the least credible person to talk about this. The fact that they thought they were going to get Kanye down there is hilarious.

There's no way. Oh, and they built it as a private island when it wasn't. Here's a question. Do you guys blame the models at all? No. They kind of took some heat in these documentaries. I think that's just people wanting to blame models for something. Yeah, I do too.

I think it's people wanting to blame people that are more successful and better looking than them. I don't think so. I saw they didn't hashtag ad in their Instagram post. It's clearly an ad though. For me, in my opinion. Well, that's a big part of how it boils down to whether you're supposed to do that or not. But yeah, I don't blame them. I mean, it was so early, too, when they were doing the stuff. And they were probably getting paid so much that they were like, oh, this is probably very legit.

Or else they wouldn't be paying us this much and letting us do this. Maybe down the line, they were like, yeah, this is sketchy. But I don't blame them no no not really there are so many other people in the pipeline who deserve way more blame than them you know i had flashbacks to college being a social chair uh in a fraternity i don't know if you guys know as i was on frat but thinking about like putting on an event that i knew was gonna like be 50 50 whether it's gonna suck and be a complete disaster or be like a decent time yeah and i just was putting myself

in billy's shoes when he knew like this wasn't gonna go down the fact that he he just stayed there and and faced all these people in front of like that that house it's like dude what's going through your head how did you think you were going to salvage this how did he the balls on that guy how did he not just not go i would have been like i would have bailed i would have gotten a like i would have chartered a ship out of there he he could have just not showed up and that would have been not even on the list of top 10 things, like shitty things that he's done. Would have been like, oh yeah, I get it. I wouldn't want to be there for that either.

Why would, he should have just gone to some foreign country and just chilled there. It shows how delusional he was. Yeah. I mean, really, right? To like go there and to stand up on the table, knowing that none of the acts are showing up, that every, there's a complete disaster. The guy is on a next level delusion.

Even if they started sorting it out where people should go and sleep, there was still no music that would have followed. Yeah. What was the plan at that point? What was he hoping? Best case scenario, what happens

in his mind at that moment? Like from then on out. No music showing up. They're in FEMA tents that are covered in rainwater. They're serving cheese sandwiches. Like what the fuck? I need to know more about that. They did have $2 million worth of booze though.

At that point, according to the people in the documentary, he was still maintaining like a positive outlook on the festival. How? The smartest thing that he did was get people to load their bracelets up with money so that they could use that money. I thought that was pretty smart, too. Shitty move, but honestly, super savvy. People were calling him and being like, yo, you gotta do more than three grand, man.

Just drop money on it right now. Come on, player. Put more money on it. You won't. That's just upfront cash, man. The lady that helped coordinate all the local population to help put the um you know put stuff together did you see her at the end yeah where she was talking about how nobody got paid yeah that was hard to watch you know what you might be about to say the same thing there's a gofundme i saw it on twitter people are sending her money right now

really when the documentary so yeah the long-haired Jude Yoga instructor, I thought to myself, hey, that guy's probably got to fire Graham. I went and looked him up on Instagram. It's private, so TBD. But his link was to the GoFundMe for that restaurant. I'm not sure how they're doing on it.

They were like a quarter of the way there last time I saw it. I bet it's way higher than that. She said she was out $50,000 for personal savings or something? Yeah. That's got to be way over that by now. Nice flex. We get it. You get $50,000. You call it the people... It was in the Bahamas. Bohemian? Yeah. Bohemian.

Bohemian. Bohemian. I was mixing it with a noted Queen song. There is a Bohemian Rhapsody. it's just got more steel drums my favorite mexican beer is uh bohemia yeah it's good yeah it's good that's a mexican beer i think so okay i think yeah can we throw it back donate donate to that yeah go donate to that go donate to that how did how is billy still alive yeah can you fucking imagine you didn't get paid and you worked on that

shit show the entire time they went down to go steal a bunch of merch what what did he think they're gonna repay creditors with the merch they stole please out of my fucking house yeah it's mexican beer really yeah cool that's what's up yeah can we do something real quick that we haven't done in a while that i've been waiting to get off for a long time it's not a tinky but it's talking about our good friends over at fulton and rourke yes it's been so long back i think i think in terms of our all-time favorite sponsors they are in the discussion at all times guess what i haven't stopped using their stuff me neither i haven't stopped after the cancellation of Me neither. I haven't stopped.

After the cancellation of Touching Base, every morning I'd get in my shower and I'd look at my economy-sized, massive bottle of 2-in-1 body wash that also has vitamin B12 as well as caffeine in it, and I would lather that all over my body. Yeah. Wow.

Every morning. That's a scene. Will would FaceTime me all lathered up, and I was like, dude, that's weird. You're in the shower. I would do that thing that they did on MTV Spring Break where you get the lather and then you put it over your private parts and then I'd send it to Dave. People don't talk about the face wash enough, in my opinion, because I use it.

My skin has never been better. I get comments all the time. It's ridiculous. It's great stuff. I put a dab of one of their wax-based colognes on my neck recently. Dude, I dabbed up on Friday night. I gave someone a hug and they were like, oh, you smell really good. And I was like, yeah, I know. It's

sterling. Ever heard of it? I know where to put it. Like the placement on my neck to get the compliments. Really? Where? I can't. It's proprietary. Wow. We'll put that on Patreon. I feel like you should share that with people. We're going to put that on the Patreon. I'll talk about it Friday. Dave, you need to put your proprietary smoothie blend on the Patreon. I'm going to. I'm debating on whether I should do it via video

or editorial or both. We might have to put a different tier on for video. Yeah, I'm so glad to have these guys back. I love them. Can you imagine if I was going to Fyre Fest? My dop kit would be nothing but Fulton and Rourke. They have the best travel size. You could literally use one of their dop kits that they sell.

And you could just pack it full. That would have been good. Maybe Fyre Fest wouldn't have been a colossal fuck up if Fulton and Rourke would have been involved. Yeah, everyone's walking around like, damn, at least I smell good. But to be clear,

they were not involved at all. Yeah, to be clear. No, Fulton and Rourke had nothing to do with Fyre Fest. Neither was Ashanti or us. We do have a promo code. It's promo code STEAM. S-T-A-M.

STEAM. S-T-E-A-M. Yeah. Not STEM. Not STEM. That'd be weird. S-T-E-A-M Steam S-T-E-A-M Yeah Not STEM Not STEM That'd be weird S-T-E-A-M Yeah Promo code STEAM

Promo code STEAM Kind of in the same realm Can we talk about An article that I read On The Cut Which is owned by New York Mag

Yes I sent this out Isn't that Dylan's thing? They took it from me Yeah they That's fucked up man what's everybody getting jacked the second i saw this i was like this is this is immediate content for circling back it's called five real life patrick bateman's and their grooming routines

this is right up your alley yeah well the patrick bateman thing like the second they put that in there i was like okay these guys are going to be huge tools. And they each went through it. Did they go through Billy's? They should have gone through Billy's. That's how you get the clicks. What's Billy McFarlane's grooming routine? Do you all think Billy had something going on with the investor?

Are you serious? Of course he did. Yeah. Okay. I'm surprised that he didn't get a bounty put on his head from the dude who's married to the investor they yeah i would i wouldn't if i was her husband i'm watching that netflix and i'd be like by the way his girlfriend not good that they showed in the hulu doc smoke is she a model yeah it's a model hey hey to billy's girlfriend if you're trying to find someone that's not in jail for six years uh you can slide into dylan's dms yeah holler at your

boy that would be a she's exotic she did you can slide into Dylan's DMs. Yeah, holler at your boy. Ooh, that would be a coup. She's exotic. She has that accent going. Eastern European, I bet. She's delusional as he is, man. She's delusional. How can she stand by a guy who's just taking money from people

and is in jail for taking money from people? Fraud. Yeah, fraud. I kind of hope she ends up with the VC guy that brought him down. I kind of hope she ends up with the VC guy that brought him down. I kind of hope she ends up with me. Yeah, you too. Thank you. What's your morning routine like?

Each of you. Ooh. Just in terms of grooming. I shower. Okay. And then I get out of the shower. I wash my face with Fulton and Roark. In the shower? Yes. I get out, and. I wash my face with like, you know, Fulton and Roark. In the shower?

Yes. I get out and then I hit my face with some lotion. And that is it. Do you brush your teeth? Oh, yeah. I brush my teeth, of course. That's big, too. Do you brush before shower or after?

Or mid? I'm not an in-shower teeth brusher. I've always been weirded out by that. Usually after. I'll brush after. I actually think doing it mid-shower feels amazing, but I don't do it mid-shower. Okay.

That's fair. Mine's very similar to Dylan's. I like to brush immediately because I want my shower experience to be perfect, and if I have any grime or morning breath, I want that to be gone. So I brush before, get in the shower, do my thing. If I'm shaving like I shaved this morning,

I've got to shut the doors, which is upsetting to the Rand man. Randy's my dog. And I've got to get some steam shaved this morning, I got to shut the doors which is upsetting to the Rand man. Randy's my dog. And I got to get some steam going. Why do you have to shut the door? Because I don't...

Randy, I like to shut the door so the steam stays in the bathroom. Dude, you lived your whole life in steam. Yeah. You're a big steam boy. Yeah.

Ricky Steamboat over here. I brush my teeth while the shower's warming up. It's a nice little two minute window. Wasting a lot of water there, bro. Be careful. Be careful.

It's Austin, Texas, bro. You haven't experienced the drought. I got no loyalty to Austin, Texas. What's your problem? I'm cucking our water. You want to catch his hands? I do pretty much the same thing, though. I wash myself with two-in-one body wash.

I get out of the shower, dry off. I do a little touch-up on the beard just to make sure I'm looking right. And then I apply some face cream and I get out the door. It's nothing crazy. These guys are huge tools. They're not us? No, no, no. There's this guy. He's a private equity research analyst.'s 29 years old uh he said they asked him if he wears deodorant he said no i don't stink i wear cologne when i go out at night that is no okay uh hey dude what like what are the pits of his like custom tailored shirts look like they gotta have pit stains in it right the only way you can pull that off is if you are in a the utmost

of northern states where you couldn't pull that off in Texas. No, dude, not even there. I don't think people realize how sweaty you get when you're layered up. When you ski, you end up getting sweaty and gross. It sounds like he has a pretty stressful job based on his title. Yeah. That's going to cause you to sweat.

It's the worst kind of sweat when you're stressing because it's the immediate stink sweat. Do you want to know his beauty routine? I mean, sorry, his well-kept beauty secret? He said, don't eat meat. I was at a vegan restaurant in Chicago called Karen's. This woman named Karen who looked like Vanessa Williams. Who is comparing people to Vanessa Williams in this day and age?

It's 2019. This dude's a confirmed psychopath. Yeah. He said she was 63, but she looked like she was 40. She was hot, gorgeous, and a vegan. Probably wealthy as well. May play into it, but...

Yeah, who knows? And so, yeah, he's all in on doing that. We also have... Would you give up meat to look hotter and younger? Because I would not. No, I think I could give up meat if my life depended on it, but I don't want to.

I'm too tied to these gains dylan you know what's up yeah imagine if you just imagine if you just were on your traeger all day just smoking vegetables instead of meat that's a sad existence this guy his uh they changed all the names so they just made him like really douchey wall street names but he's 32 he's a private equity associate director in singapore he said he starts with two shots from the nespresso machine and reads the newspapers front he starts with two shots from the Nespresso machine and reads the newspapers front to back with CNN on the TV. Yeah, replace Nespresso with Adderall.

Yeah, he's definitely just railing Adderall. He left out that part. And you know what? I'm not convinced these people are real. This is some dude also on Adderall that just made up a bunch of characters. They asked him how he works out. He says, I take part in two to three triathlons a year i typically run or swim in the evenings after work either running about six to nine miles each time or swimming two kilometers in the pool you're a swim guy now

dave that's not easy i suck at swimming is there not a picture of these guys on the no they they refuse they are all anonymous because they're high-powered jobs. Give me another one. Let me see. I like this stuff. We've got a... This one, it says that his name is Craig McDermott, which is obviously fake. He's 29.

Craig McDermott is a power name, though. Craig McDermott. Craig. That's tight. He's a banker in Hong Kong. Let's see what he said about his. A banker in Hong Kong. Craig McDermott.

He says, I try to work out every day. Typically, I do Muay Thai or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu three or four times a week. Sometimes weights for a day. I play tennis every week. I belong to a gym that specializes in MMA workouts. This dude tries to pick fights at bars.

He just prays that someone tests him and he can put somebody in a rear naked choke. Nah, this dude, nah. Are there a bunch of places in Hong Kong that have MMA specialists at their places? It sounds like Onnit, kind of, right? I guess. Onnit does all that crazy stuff. He did say that he avoids face masks because they're just too much work.

Well, it's a personal foul. It's a 15-yard penalty. Okay. Okay. Okay. Timothy Bryce, Private Equity, 28, New York. Timothy Bryce? I will give props to the cut.

Whoever came up with these names absolutely crushed it. This guy, let me guess. Is there something about emerging markets? Probably. The first name that they used was Paul Allen. So they might have just actually taken names from the movie. Timothy Bryce, they said. Oh, it is. Is that Justin Theroux's character?

Paul Allen. No, Timothy Bryce. Just keep going. It might be. They probably just took them all from this. They asked him what kind of soaps he uses. He said something from Whole Foods. Whole Foods shower gel, fragrance free. I mean, come on. No uses. He said something from Whole Foods. Whole Foods shower gel, fragrance-free.

I mean, come on. No one's buying their stuff at Whole Foods. The only soaps I use are soap shoes. This guy actually has the lamest one. He actually uses a lot of really low-end stuff to get his stuff off. They asked him. Oh, he does work out at Equinox, though. Of course.

Doesn't Barrett work out there? At Equinox? No. Barrett's a pure guy. Timothy Bryce is Justin Theroux from there. There you go. They don't have an Equinox here. They have one in Houston, I know.

There's one in Dallas. They use keels in Houston. Oh, our buddy Jack Stone. The Stone Man. He posts from the Highland Park one. By the way, did Stone listen to the Chris Harrison interview? Oh, I hope not. I feel like he would have. Someone needs to toss him a text. I'm sure someone added him and was like, hey, yo, you got to listen to the Chris Harrison interview. Ooh, I hope not. I feel like he would have.

Someone needs to toss him a text. I'm sure someone added him and was like, hey, yo, you got to listen to this. I wouldn't. I'm not that. Whatever. That'd be a savage move if someone's going to do it. Here, do you want to talk about Humphrey Reinbeck, 23,

who does mergers and acquisitions? M&A. He says, what time do you get up? He said, I get up around 7 or so. I just started a new diet very recently, so I've been drinking a whey-based protein shake. I shower, I shave, I don't use a lot of product in the morning. Can any of you guess what his diet is?

Is it keto? He's in ketosis, right. He says, the new diet is like a modified paleo diet. It introduces a little bit of fasting. You eat for 8 hours and you fast for another 16 hours to end the day. The goals of the diet are fat loss, increased testosterone, and growth hormones. This guy's right in our wheelhouse. Are we sure this isn't a parody site?

Yes. This is unbelievable. This kind of just sounds like, this might be Dylan. Honestly, I like what this guy's doing, but it's just unbelievable. He does say, he said, my exercise regimen is primarily weights, so it's a weightlifter's diet.

I discovered it while listening to a podcast. Do you think he might have been a toucher? I think it was more of a ring the bell situation. I was thinking that too. Yeah. I mean, this guy uses trash stuff too. He's using stuff that I would just never even think about putting on my body. Let's see.

Let's finish this out with just a couple more douchey things that this guy said. Let me see. They asked him if he does any gym classes. He said, no, those are for people who don't know anything about exercise, just like personal trainers are for people who don't know what to do or how to do it. I'm an informed consumer. I do my own research. Wow. I want this guy consumer. I do my own research. Wow.

I want this guy merging and acquiring things for me. This guy's also dabbling with murders and executions. They also asked him inexplicably if they do, if he does tough mutters, which he said, no, I don't do any of that. We should do a tough mutter. No, I'm good. Did you shit?

Who shit on that on PGP back in the day? Who do you think shit on it? John Duda. Yeah, he did. Good call. He's when they asked him why he did on that. When they asked him why he didn't do Tough Mudders, he said, I don't know. It doesn't interest me.

I just do it for myself. That whole team aspect, trying to relive your high school years. I played high school football. So what I do now is just for aesthetics. Okay. Well, high school football. So what I do now is just for aesthetics. Okay. Well, this is great. If you are one of these people, and you happen to be listening to this show, please

call us. We'll have you on. Please just hit us up. I feel like I would love to... Actually, I talked about this on Club Cool with Barrett one time. Barrett went through his entire grooming routine, which I assume is probably very similar to what these guys do. Yeah, Barrett's very meticulous.

Yeah. Barrett's a guy who we hang out with. He takes care of himself. I would like to follow Barrett around for 24 hours and just see what he does for a day. I bet most of these guys are also on testosterone replacement therapy. Yeah, for sure. And they don't mention that because they don't want it to sound like they're cheating the game. I mean, it's anonymous. They might as well have yeah it's great i bet one of these

guys like he like they put it out and then like a bunch of people started reading it and he was like oh fuck i want to know this fame i'm going to tweet it from like my personal account that i just started uh speaking of that can i go back to the uh fire fest thing sure the dude the uh the balding redheaded guy who everybody's like, who the fuck is this influencer who ran the parody account? Yeah, what's up with that guy?

Were you familiar with that guy's account? Kind of. No, I wasn't. Who is he? Something, it was like, it was a mock influencer account

like, this isn't the name, it was like, Timothy Harrison III. Yeah, yeah. And he would just parody. Honestly, a really good idea.

Yeah, pretty funny. He seemed like Honestly, a really good idea. Yeah. Pretty funny. He seemed like the most genuine dude and it makes sense. He was self-aware. Like, he was probably doing like another job and then all of a sudden

this parody account started taking off and he's like, ah, this is kind of more fun. I'll go back to banking after. Yeah. Do we have anything else today? I don't think so.

That was fun, man. F man firefest is fun to talk about yeah it's great i've decided i'm not going to collect the homework yeah um i'm going to just give everybody a participation grade are you going to collect the homework that was dylan dude that was not me that was totally dylan i was a cool kid in class you know that some dude on twitter said that i put out vibes of a dude who wasn't cool in high school. Yeah, I can see that. And I was like, dog, come on. Why you got to do me like that?

How many people graduated in your class? 114. Man, if you weren't cool in that small of a class. Everybody was cool in that small of a class. I feel like everybody could find their niche. Yeah, everyone had their squad. I feel like Harper's Pins is such a different universe. Everyone had their squad.

I don't want to stunt, but yeah, I was on homecoming court. I got last place, but I was on there. So was I. Everybody was. Yeah, I made the people that voted reveal the votes to me because I just had to know where I placed. I knew I wasn't going to win, but I had to know. And they were like, Will, you got last. So shouts to me.

Everybody's looking at me i was not on homecoming court you were at a massive school i graduated with about 800 people that's insane i have no idea how many i graduated with like i couldn't even ballpark it we were the i was the largest graduating class in harvard springs high school history and the class after us it was 114 the class after us was like 80 tiny Tiny-ass school. Tiny, man. What percentage were you graduating? Like, I think I was like top 10%. But I still had like, I was like still good. But in that small of a class, if there are people with 4.0s,

like you're just getting knocked down the percentage. Did Michigan have the rule that the top 10% in any high school graduating class could go to any state school? No, that blew my mind about Texas. Or could get into. That blew my mind. They dropped it to, I think it's 8% now at Texas. Yeah, they're making it a little more stringent. I remember being mad that I didn't take easier classes because I was top 12 or 11.

Not that I didn't matter but I remember like thinking that and I was like you know what actually it was kind of genius I should have been in all the academic level classes and just like balled out had a 4.0 yeah I took like I took one level down of math so it meant I never had to take the

hardest math class like when I was like a senior and stuff it was the best decision of my life because I just kind of coasted in my math classes and got a's in every single one you want to know a fun fact about me that you won't believe i made it through all of school college included but never taking an accounting class oh i never took one accounting class i felt like everybody had to take it and i somehow somehow beat the system. We took a personal finance class in our senior year of high school. It was like a required course, but it was the dumbest shit you've ever seen. I didn't learn anything.

I wish I would have taken it because I lost all my money to Fyre Fest. I was actually an early investor. I was growing from Billy. Yeah, Billy actually owes me about $30,000. You know, Billy, he owes me $2.5 million. I don't know if we're going to ever collect on it but i didn't know your pockets were that deep dave well i was you know i was heading up a little uh private equity should we start writing him letters no that'd be funny did he do coke what's his deal of course there had to be see him in those interviews

when ja rule did that coat talking a million miles per hour when they did those toasts they were the entire room is on e they were on molly hard rolling like a motherfucker maybe not the models i can't believe the models stuck around for that no they dude you know that they went back to their cabanas and we're like what the fuck do we get ourselves into i would love to hear from their perspective yeah i wonder if he was smart enough to have them sign non-disclosures. Like NDAs and stuff. Because Probably. There was probably

You'd think they would've gotten one of them for the Netflix documentary. Netflix has money to burn. Yeah. I can't imagine like they had Amrata. Yeah. She's too big for that now.

She would never be able to do that at this point, right? Correct. Crazy. Should we get out of here? Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. All right.

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