Circling Back - Will, Barrett & Dave Talk Shop | Circling Back 8-4-26
Episode Date: August 4, 2026With Dillon out, Barrett and Will of Retail Therapy join Dave to talk song of the summer, new shows, play "sip/sniff/puff", and a little Puddle of Mudd talk to finish! Support us on Patreon an...d receive weekly episodes for as low $5 per month: www.patreon.com/circlingbackpodcast Watch all of our full episodes on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6GWLSnyJKGMDIWsYC0RBG2?si=f9e2bcc01d2a4573&nd=1&dlsi=dd35daf7973642a1 Watch all of our full episodes on YouTube: www.youtube.com/washedmedia Shop Washed Merch: www.washedmedia.shop (0:00) Fun and Easy Banter (12:55) Pullin' a Dave? (23:35) Sip/Sniff/Puff (41:35) What the boys are watching (53:50) Song of the summer? (1:07:09) Puddle of Mudd nostalgia Support This Episode’s Sponsors: - Warby Parker: buy one pair of glasses and get 20% off any additional pairs at https://warbyparker.com/steam - Factor Meals: Head to https://factormeals.com/backer50off and use code backer50off to get 50 percent off and 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year, while supplies - BetterHelp: Sign up and get 10% at https://betterhelp.com/circling - Rocket Money: Join at https://rocketmoney.com/circling Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ranchos and metal ranchos
Hey, all right, we're back.
Circling Back podcast, it's Tuesday morning.
My name is Dave.
It feels a cool one here.
I love cool.
Producer to show today, Randall Trumbacky.
Hi, Dave.
Is that a new t-shirt?
It's a new t-shirt from a little easy.
You guys should know it from the virus.
I'm a viral frozen reviews, but yeah, this is the new little easy t-shirt.
I like it because he's sitting at the bar and he's looking at you.
When you look at the back of my shirt is the back of him at the bar.
Wow.
So it's pretty cool.
Imagine now watching this live on YouTube or after the fact on YouTube or Spotify.
You totally miss out on that.
Yeah, you missing out of my cool shirt.
People are going to wonder if it's a conflict that you got a t-shirt from there.
also did two frozen reviews from there two frozen reviews hey i got news for you i have two t-shirts
from there god bless i got the i got this second one because uh the first one has been commandeered
by the girlfriend so i need to get my own classic girlfriend stuff yeah you know how they were always just
commandeering yeah did she take your hat and like put it on like wear it the rest of the party too
yeah it's a good sign man those frozen reviews made me want to go crack
hog maybe like just get a frozen hog you love cracking hog oh frets out there cooking we're not
getting the beverage market shut off uh two special guests today please dillon is in chicago um so
he had to call in the big dogs barrett dudley of occ how's it gone barred dudley of retail
therapy also that one yeah yeah bear dudley formerly of club cool yes and just barrett dudley of
friendship. Yeah. That's how we know you. That's the big one. What's up? Happy to be here. I got a question for
Randy on the shirts over there, though. I just didn't want to, I didn't want to jump in until I'd
been introduced. Were the, were the shirts gifted? Or did you? No, no, I bought them. You can buy
him there. Okay. Okay. You sure? So you're, you didn't just like leap into levels of food and
beverage influencing where they're like, oh shit, it's, it's Randy, Randall Trumbachy of the viral
frozen rating frozen's content we better we better swag this dude up no no i just i just got it
because i like the restaurant and i like the little little gator look at him it's got sunglasses on
okay so i'm glad you asked that question because i was wondering if like maybe there was something
going on randy's no stranger to a side deal you got those you got some side hustle i wish i did
no i just promote stuff i would love a side deal yeah well once you
Once you get a couple few of those under your belt, Randy, you can't just be buying the t-shirts.
That's true.
I mean.
You got to wait for them to be like, please, sir, sir.
Rep us.
No, you're worth, King.
Let us give you this t-shirt, yeah.
You're right.
You're right.
I won't.
I just like a little easy.
Have you been?
No, no, no, no.
It is good.
I do recommend it.
The food is fantastic.
Do they take reservations?
I think so.
Yeah.
Is it a QR code on the menu?
They have both. They have a paper menu and a QR code.
Wow.
I got to, I don't know about you, David Ruff, but I got to have a reservation to get all the way over to the east side, you know.
Yeah, I'm kind of in that boat as well.
It's weirdly not that far, but it weirdly feels like it's half a day.
Yeah.
It feels like you're devoting like a quarter of your day to get over there, even though it's like at worst, like 25 minutes.
Yeah.
Ladies gentlemen, Will to Freeze in the building.
It's good to be here.
Do you guys plan this?
We did not.
No, no.
We've, uh,
Will and I have just been on, you know, on the same wavelength the last several weeks.
We keep showing up to, to retail therapy recordings dressed almost the same.
And today, today we're both, we're both GPSing and, and tie-dying.
It's just, it's kismet, man.
You know, it's just two, it's just two guys that are, that are tapped in.
Yeah.
You guys are locked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you can ride the same way with your home.
me without even trying.
That's when you know it's clicking.
I used to have this t-shirt as a long-sleeve t-shirt.
It said like it had a guy on like a wind,
wind surfing.
And it said,
ride the wave.
And I've always thought about it.
And it's just kind of how I've approached life ever since then.
People are clamoring for a new run of those.
I'm clamoring.
Mine did not last.
Mine lasted about 10 years.
A lot of armpit holes being reported on the old ones.
It's okay.
They're 13 years old.
That's what,
yeah.
What do you do?
I have shirts that I've owned for a year that already have holes in.
them. Yeah. What are you going to do? Yeah. Can I say something? Please. I'm a fan actually of QR code
menus at bars. If I can order a beer to my picnic table directly from my phone and I don't have
to move, that is the one scenario where I actually think that QR code menus have really done a good job.
Golden Acres down the street. Yeah. It's nice not to have to go up to that bar as well. You're not managing
other people's tabs. You're not having to run and, you know, bring five beers back to the table.
because everyone sees you getting up.
Like, it's just kind of nice
just to have them drop the beer off.
I agree with you.
Yeah.
And with that app,
I think it's a Tivore app.
Whatever,
if a place has that
and you don't have to actually deal
with like the waiter
and you're just like,
oh,
I want my thing right now.
With the what app,
Brandon?
I think it's like T-A-V-O-U-R-T-V-O-U-R.
Oh, okay, okay.
I thought you,
I thought he,
I thought he was saying the word
devour.
No, no, no.
Devor.
I think it's T-V-O-R.
Viola.
Micah.
You know what?
It really exposes people who are just
don't have a full charge on their phone.
I feel like a lot of people who grab about the QR code thing,
it's like people pull up to the function with about 40%.
It's like, yo, man, you got to charge that thing.
Yeah.
Get yourself one of them battery packs.
Yeah.
Juice packs.
I got the oldest phone in here, I bet.
What's your battery life like these days, David?
Not as bad as previous phones that I've held on.
to way too long. When I first moved to Austin, my phone had such bad battery life that I could have
it fully charged when I left the house. And then at midnight, when I needed to go home, it would be at like
2% battery. Yeah. And it was always a very stressful thing. Like, I need to leave before this happened.
Yeah. Haven't been out past midnight a long time myself. BGP.
Dave, you know, you're talking about getting into the drink market. I hear that. Well, I got, I got big news.
There's a void in the market, a vacuum opening them up, opening up, if you will, because Junshine is closing.
They're shuddering.
They're shutting down.
I know you're a big fan.
June shine.
June shine.
Tell me about it.
Yeah.
That's the hard kombucha day.
You brought the hard kombucha one time to my in-laws pool.
Man, they really thought the hard kombucha was going to hit in a different way.
Well, that was like the new thing.
June shine, gone.
So you're saying there's.
you're saying there's an opening
I'm saying that's your opening
yeah that's the window right there
I think people it's just
you're looking to get the
if you're doing the hard kombucha thing
you're like trying to get the people
into wellness
into their gut their gut bacteria
but also people who like to
get a little effed up
and so it's just hard to find those things
and make them coexist
yeah
trying to find a balance like atmosphere
yes
was that that did slug
right that shot out Minnesota
yeah he did
Yeah. Yeah. Randy, do we drop the Patreon yet?
No, I'll be dropping this afternoon.
We did cold calls yesterday. How to go for you.
I thought it was, we always say this, it was the funniest cold Carl we ever had.
Like, I was laughing my ass off the whole time. I think Dave and I were having a lot more fun than Dylan was.
No, Dylan laughed.
Dylan. Was he in vacation mode?
There was a certain word that Dave and I really enjoy that Dylan doesn't as much.
Well, I'll give you without, without spoiling cold calls.
it was, we had a guy who went to a cockfighting ranch
and got to see like the roosters as they were training and sparring.
I don't know how much of it he was making up.
It didn't sound like much.
And then there was also the next young lady who didn't even like,
her form was like, oh, I got into a college football game
and I found like an all-access pass.
And I was like, all right, we'll call.
And then like she led with, yeah, I have a bearded little.
And we feed it cockroaches that get delivered.
So we spent like way too much time on that.
Just had a lot of questions for the bearded lizard owner.
And then we had the guy, the sauna guy, it was just a fun story about it.
That one just let, I don't even want to try to explain it.
It was just a very, very fun cold call.
Those will be out this afternoon.
Do you have to buy cockroaches to feed?
Yeah, because like this thing apparently eats like a ton of.
eats like a ton. That sounds terrible. 40 a day. That's what I said, she said. I didn't like buying
grasshoppers for my chameleons. Buying cockroaches and bringing those into my domicile simply isn't
happening. Yeah. Like I try to keep them outside. Like it's a, it's a problem. If I see one cockroach
a month in my home, it's like, like Alyssa's like, like, call the pest company, call them now.
They need to get here like tomorrow. I'm like, uh, we do like quarterly service. Like, and that's like only,
we've only seen like two this year. Are you sure we need to like go out?
out of her way and she's like, yeah.
All right.
What's the first five seconds after seeing a cockroach look like in your life?
When I see a cockroach, it's on sight.
Dude, I like how it, there's the shot of adrenaline that goes to the body.
It still hits and you're just like, all right.
It's like it's the, it's the GTA or whatever the meme is, you know, here we go again,
that guy.
It's that.
And it's usually Alyssa leaving.
It's always Alyssa leaving the room.
And it's me going in there and like, like, pink, you know, trying to figure out,
What's the least mess I can leave?
I'll go get like the cleaning stuff because I'm going to have to bleach the area.
It's a whole thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Mine has changed significantly.
I'm very much a bug guy.
So I used to be when I was single, it would just be like, oh, cockroach.
All right, let me figure out how to, you know, put this in a jar and throw it outside.
Very calm.
Now it's if I see one and she hasn't seen one yet.
It's like, I need to get rid of this right away before.
Yeah.
Before she sees it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not killing it with the shoe I'm wearing.
If I'm wearing a shoe, I'm not using that shoe.
I try to find something that I don't wear or like find a way to take care of it.
I'm never using a shoe.
Yeah, no sand.
I don't have enough access to shoes in the situations where I need it.
So I'm grabbing anything.
I might go pull out my flofers.
Yeah.
And use those.
Those have so much give and comfort though that it might just pat around.
Well, you can just rinse them off too.
Yeah.
T-man knows.
I mean, this is where like people in the.
90s probably just grabbed a magazine off their giant stack of magazines in the middle of their coffee
people mag yeah we got people magazines like that's what i'm like you pulled that bitch over it's a weapon
i'm still looking for like you know like the the the the sofa envelope that they won't stop sending me
a dozen of every week right and then i'm using that to smash from grand x oh god we had a sofa
i have a retirement account with grandex that has like oh no i know i didn't 800 dollars in it in the
amount of communication that they send me regarding it i'm like yeah you guys have made it really hard for me
to transfer this anywhere, so please stop talking to me about it. Yeah, you got to roll that thing over,
man. You got to roll it over. I'm trying to roll over, dude. Yeah, dude, we'll talk. I'm trying to,
I'm trying to Beethoven in this situation. I got mutual funds. I don't know. I'm really exposed
myself. Yeah, you're dangerously close to publicly talking about finances, Dave. Yeah, hey, I was joking.
That's a character. You know, I would never, ever talk about this publicly. Um, yeah, check out
the Patreon. Listener voice-bless will drop Friday, as they always do, as will our substack,
wash.substack.com.
Um, but yeah, listener, or excuse me, cold calls.
We recorded it yesterday.
It will drop today.
It's Randy's favorite of all time.
And that's, my, I thought it was great.
Yeah.
I, my face was hurting from how much I was laughing.
Really?
Yeah.
Damn.
Sounds like it was a movie.
Oh.
I got a question for you, Dave.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, I haven't, I haven't gotten to, uh, to, to, to avidly listen to any circling back
episodes and say the last three, four weeks.
Hmm.
Okay.
But it seems like you,
okay, it seems like you've got a bit that is,
uh,
absolutely dominating the,
the,
the subreddit,
the circling back subreddit.
Can you,
oh,
can you give me like a,
like a quick explainer on,
on what's,
what's happening there with.
Okay.
I mean,
I think I get the gist.
Your wife or your significant other,
your spouse,
your husband even,
you know,
I don't think it's,
I don't think pulling a Dave is exclusive to the,
to the,
uh,
to the,
uh,
certainly not.
Uh,
you're,
so your partner,
your,
goes out of,
and you take the opportunity.
It goes out for the night.
Basically leaves you, goes out and does something fun.
To cook a steak and get housed on wine.
I say, oh, you're, okay, you're going to go play mage, as you know,
a little bit of its resent, you know, built up, a little bit, like, resenting the fact
that she has, like, a standing social thing.
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
With the girls and they seem to go have a lot of fun.
Cool.
You know, God forbid I play golf.
No, I'm kidding.
So I'm like, all right, cool.
So I'm like, all right, well, I'll make spaghetti for the boys or whatever.
And then I'll just, you know, I'll just cook because I don't want to, I don't want to doordash something.
Yeah, yeah.
I like to spend a little time.
So I will typically hit H.E.B.
I'll go grab a steak.
Typically a ribby, sometimes a filet, sweet potato, which I'm in on, traditional baked potato.
I am in on, always have been.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, you were backing on it.
That implies that you were once out on it.
Whatever.
And a green.
And I'll cook it.
And usually because I'm cooking for myself and I don't have to worry about two steaks,
possibly cooked at different temperatures, have to pull them at different times.
It usually turns out a little bit better than it would otherwise when I was cooking for two.
Because you got full attention on just the one steak.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And maybe there's a little bit of motivation in there, too.
Well, you're also freed up, you know?
When you're just cooking for yourself, you have the freedom to make decisions that you otherwise,
might not make for fear of, you know, bad feedback.
Bad feedback.
Maybe I want to try a different rub.
Maybe I want to put less on there.
Maybe I just want to do salt and pepper the way God intended.
Yeah.
And also, like, I'm not up against it.
I don't have to worry about like, you know, Alyssa, she wants dinner before six or
something.
It's like, oh, yeah, I can pull the steak and let it sit for 10 minutes like it should.
All that.
This isn't throwing shade at my wife by any means.
But I started doing this and talked about it.
And then some people, it's really ramped off the last couple months.
Yeah.
And to the point to where people are going real hard.
People were going hard.
People were making like homemade chimichir.
Yeah, I was about to call you Paul Wall because you got the internet going nuts.
Thank you.
It's just, I'm like, wow.
Okay.
And then it's almost like I feel like I felt the need.
I kind of have to address it because I feel like I'm building up.
I don't want to get anybody in trouble.
you're a wedge, though.
I kind of feel like you're your own general wedge.
I feel like I'm creating a rift or a wedge in certain relationships potentially.
And I just wanted to get out ahead of it.
And this ladies, you can do this too.
Your man's is going out to, he's going out with Bryce and James and the boys.
You know what?
How about you cook some Putin-esque?
Whatever.
Do something.
Make some ravioli.
It doesn't have to be Italian.
food. It could be anything, really, just a steak. Could it be a ribby? Could be a ribby.
Although, Alyssa's a, she's a filet gal, which I respect. I don't know what I am anymore.
You don't do a ton of red meat. I just, which is admirable. I've been a fan of the general
trend socially of ordering a steak sliced and bringing it for the table. We've been doing that
at home. When Alyssa and I do steak, we're slicing it up. Yeah, it's, but I love. But I love,
I like not having the pressure of ordering my own steak and just eating a giant piece of meat
before possibly going to a second location at a restaurant.
I think at this point, if I'm with a group, I'm okay with getting a big steak and going
hard on sides and stuff.
I like that a lot and you don't feel like if you get, let's say you get a 12 ounce filet or something
or like a bigger rib eye, you will feel the pressure to finish it because.
Yeah.
Ods are if you are going to, if you're going to a second location, you're not taking it with you.
And you also don't want to be the guy who wasted meat, you know, an animal died for this.
So you want to finish it.
But, you know, we've been doing lately.
If there's like leftover steak, we've been taking it with us, thinly slicing it the next day
and putting some flaky salt on top of it with some olive oil for a little appetizer the next night.
It's been a nice little appetizer, got to say.
Yeah.
That's, I like that a lot.
Yeah.
So they're calling it the Dave, pulling a Dave.
I wish there was a better name for it that didn't involve my name.
Like, I do love, you know, it is a nice ego boost, but like to see like good food associated
with my name.
But like there should be a better name for it.
One that maybe catches on.
I like Dave maxing.
Okay.
Thank you.
Continue to Dave Max.
I've dived before.
I've done it with steak.
I've done it with nice piece of fish.
I don't want to mess up like a $23 piece of fish times two.
Yeah.
That's going to be the type of thing I just do once.
My fish game is weak.
Like, I'm also cooking it for all my boys out there, you know?
Yeah.
I want them to see that I'm just because I'm at home doesn't mean that I'm chained down.
It kind of feels like you're in the arena.
Yeah.
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
It's like you got the whole, like all your boys on your back.
Like you're, you're doing it's for everybody.
All the dudes at home, you know, and you're like, you know what?
They would kill to be in this position right now.
You know, a dad move I've been pulling lately around the grill?
What?
I've been like looking up how long I need to do something for at what temperature.
And then I've been trying to find a song that I can either time it perfectly with.
So I'd flip halfway through.
Okay.
Or if it's a shorter song, then maybe I'll just ride that out, flip, find another one similar length.
Yeah.
I know you and I share a common interest in late 80s, 90s punk, where you could like put
on a Green Day album and each song is like two minutes long.
Yeah.
So you could really get creative there.
You can get wild with it.
Yeah.
sometimes you can toss on like a 10-minute dead and co song and you can have everything grilled five and five right there is there it is
sometimes you can do it yeah you like know exactly when like when the solo or like hits you're just like well time to flip
i like that a lot you have like one song like oh that's my rib-eye song oh that's oh okay see this is good
yeah that's actually good you need what's the ideal rib-eye song i don't know that's tough because like you know
depending on how you're cooking it uh if you're doing it in the cast iron
skillet like I am indoors uh if I'm doing like the hot seer uh you know maybe two three minutes
aside see we don't have the ventilation for that we don't either i'm operating differently
has to open the windows it's not it's not a good thing and it bothers my son he hates the smell
i set off the fire alarm at a hotel recently at about 1030 at night doing what it wasn't like a hotel
hotel but it was some connected things okay and uh we had a fireplace and
And what I didn't realize is that our two-way fireplace was putting a bunch of smoke into the room that we were not in.
Okay.
And about 10.30, after being really proud of my fire, I realized what I had done.
And I started trying to wave it out the windows.
And when I started waving it out the windows, it rose and caught some fire alarm.
Did you ever have a friend or hear of a friend who was in like a hotel room, like probably a total dummy, like 22 years old?
And he had a shirt and he hung it on top of.
of the sprinkler thing in hotel.
And now they specifically have like the little sign that says,
do not.
This will set off the entire thing.
Yeah.
I've heard of that happening.
Oh,
dumb enough,
when we were in high school,
we were like at a,
it was called Business Professionals of America.
It was a competition about how business we could be.
One of the guys put a hangar on there
because he thought it was funny that it said not to.
And he got fucking chewed out.
It didn't set it off,
but I almost did.
It's like, why, why, why would you do something that clearly says not to do it?
It's fun to do bad things.
I know a couple of people like that in my life.
How did he get caught?
Because they were just doing room inspections like the chaperones were and then saw it and
went like, what, like, what, why would you do this?
It's like, dude, taking it off of that thing, it's like, uh, Mel Gibson and lethal weapon,
like, you know, clipping the wires of the bomb, not sure which ones are clipped.
Because you're taking that thing off like, okay, hasn't set it off yet.
and you're trying to not.
Yeah, it's like we're in the Hurt Locker.
It's just like that.
Shout to the troops.
Shout to Warby Parker.
Love Warby Parker.
Dylan's probably rocking those transitional lenses right now.
I've got the sunglasses.
How did I try them on?
I could have gone to the store to try on my Warby's.
Instead, I did it virtually.
It's the best virtual try-on I've ever used.
Randy, you're a store guy.
You went to the store.
I did.
I've got over 300 locations.
Great customer service.
Great customer service.
Look, why did buying glasses always feel so complicated and overpriced?
I'm just trying to buy glasses and not feel like I need a spreadsheet to understand what's going on.
You know, I don't rock with spreadsheets.
That's something that's eluded me over the years.
That's why I love Warby Parker.
Again, I've got the bremers.
Dylan's got the same frames with his, again, are transitional lenses.
I keep pointing that, Barrett.
That's not Dylan.
That's Barrett.
I'm Barrett.
But you can pretend that's Dylan.
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It's time for a game that we play all the time on this show.
It's actually a game that I didn't know what it was until Will sent it to me.
It's called Sniff Puff.
Do you ever play Sniff Puff?
I can't say that I have.
Will, explain to the folks at home about Sniff Puff.
Who I believe is a backer sent me a clip from a podcast.
podcasts that seem to cover British soccer.
Okay.
Or football, as they call it over there.
Lad Football Bruv.
And they did a game called sniff or puff, where they started going through a bunch of different
players and saying whether they'd rather sniff with them or puff with them.
Putting two and two together, I think they're talking about drugs.
It feels very drug coded.
Yeah.
By the way, you've seen these...
We could do Sip Puff Snort.
Hmm, I sure have.
Sniff Puff Snort?
I would assume...
Bear and I are actually wearing our tie-dye in defiance of the THC band in Texas.
Dude, I wish I got the memo.
I would have, I've got something tied-eye, surely, or I could have had my son make one at school for me.
Yeah.
Wait, hold on.
So what's the difference between sniff and snort?
I think the sniff is the smith.
Yeah.
I was saying Sip Puff.
Snort.
Let's do Sip-Smith, poth.
Wait, yeah.
We could do that.
There's really no, you can, I mean, look, it's our show.
We can do whatever we want.
Sip puff snort.
Sitpuff snort.
Is that what we're saying?
Yeah.
We're going to find out.
We can just do whatever we want.
I don't know.
I found three names that are extremely heavy in the geist right now.
Okay.
I was feeling zesty when I woke up today.
We've got Jonah Hill, Mario Lopez, Hunter Biden.
So let's start with Jonah Hill.
Have you seen why he's in the news?
I have. Yeah. Yeah. And to be clear, like, this is all for fun. We don't want any smoke. I don't,
so to speak. I don't get on Twitter too regularly. I don't believe you. But when I got on it the other day,
boy, it sure wanted me to know about this, this Jonah Hill jiu jihitsu thing. Dude, my for you, I would,
sometimes I'm, like, feeling dangerous and I pop over to the four you just to see like, uh-oh.
I can't get mine off of the four-you. It just all, it constantly gives me for you. I have to switch to
following every single time. To tie it to a show that's popular, it's like ancient Valeria to me
when I go to 4U. It's like I don't know what's going to be over there. Yeah. It could be like unicorns.
There could be like volcanoes, destruction. I live on that 4U page. It's wild. It's trash.
It's like so wild. It's I hate it, dude. It's on that 4U page. It's a lot of Burnerverse.
It's just terrible. But everything was a quote tweet and none of it was positive for Jonah Hill.
there wasn't anybody like yeah you guys actually you know he's been training since 2018 you know
actually you know what he's trying to say is it was nobody it was just like well i'm gonna it's
the same take just put differently by a hundreds and hundreds of accounts so jonah hill
sip snort puff i can go first okay yeah please do i'm puffing with him
and here's why he just
seems like a puffer. Here's the thing. Okay, he seems like he's in the same crew as like Seth
Rogan and formerly James Franco before he creeped on a bunch of girls in gross ways. Right.
And I feel like Jonah Hill would want to buy stuff from Seth Rogan's company house plant
that makes a bunch of like heady home products. Right. I've seen this. He was supposed to star
as Jerry Garcia in Martin Scorsese's Grateful Dead movie that,
definitely isn't getting made at this point.
And I'd also prefer that Jonah Hill not be that guy at this point.
Certainly not now.
But I just think like he just seems like maybe he needs a puff, dude.
Maybe he needs to commit a Texas felony real quick and just like chill out and not try to fight
people at panel discussions.
Yeah, I think puff is where I was going to.
That's the right answer.
He seems like maybe the most obnoxious person in the entire world to snort with.
Yeah, that could go like South real quick.
If I'm snorting with him, I'm going to want to do a bunch of bits from Superbad.
Yeah.
Like that's how, that's where it devolves to.
And if he's not going to be open to doing that.
You might want to do that puffing with him too, though.
No, I'm just going to be like, can we watch Super.
Please let us watch Superbad right now, dude.
Can we please watch it?
Dude, do the laugh from war dogs.
Do the laugh from War dogs.
Like, think about when he's snorting in Wolf of Wall Street, right?
Like, I just imagine that that's probably pretty true to life.
He just can't, he couldn't stop talking.
Apparently this movie that he made for Apple TV is just God awful.
Not getting released?
Is that right?
No, no, no.
The one that's like that Apple, that your Apple TV probably has pushed on you a million times at this point.
The one with Keanu.
Oh, not the one with Kristen Wig?
Because he had a movie that's not getting released with Kristen Wig.
That's what I was thinking about.
It's a comedy about kids that are getting an inheritance and they need to do something in order to get it.
Okay.
This is called outcome.
Outcome.
Outcome is apparently awful.
It's got Keanu Reeves.
Yeah.
Cameron Diaz.
And Matt Bonner?
Former Spurs Great.
Matt Boomer, excuse me.
Not former Spurs Great.
Matt Bonner.
Yeah.
That would be cool.
You don't want to drink with him.
Look, you don't want to, the answer is puff because, like,
anybody who's they got that much aggression from years of being like,
yeah, you don't.
We need to take him down a notch.
I'm not trying to like, he's the dude who's like, dude, let's go, come on. Let's wrestle real quick.
And I know, man, I'm good. Like, that, that era of my life stopped, like, after high school, really.
Like, where we, like, go out and, like, wrestle in the yard.
I think, like, real MMA guys when they drink, they, they know their limits and they know, they know to honor the sport.
Sure.
I don't think fake poser MMA guys like Jonah Hill are going to do a good job of, like, not trying to show that their hands are weapons.
Yeah.
He has to tell you how they're registered.
He's like, yeah, I had to go down to the.
police station register these hands it's a very generous read of professional m m mfiders because i i picture
most of them like nate dyes not going to go on a podcast and talk shit about m m m fighters we live in
not really not really the exposure i want myself yeah you can't get caught doing that yeah i i i might
have misnamed a choke in a viral clip remember randy like five years ago on too much that and like the
clip was like our biggest clip ever people are like actually it's not a ninja joke that's actually called
blah blah blah. Like, wow, this fucking idiot misnamed the choke. I'm like, I don't know how
man. I'm sorry. You should be. Yeah, they're going to come fight you one day. Mario Lopez,
a connoisseur of AI slop, brockslop. Have you seen the... No, no, I'm not sure. I'm not familiar
with why Mario Lopez is in the geist. So he took a lot of the heat off of Jonah Hill, who is the
main character over the weekend. Yeah. When he went to a Dodger game with his niece,
still don't have an answer to your question on Slack yesterday, Ray?
I did not ask that.
Also, you did not slack it to me.
I didn't know.
I, I'm sorry.
I thought I thought Barrett might have seen it.
It's a clearly AI video of his daughter or his niece, excuse me, housing two glizzies and then
wiping the mustard all over her face.
It's not like the most sexual thing you've ever seen, but it's also just weird.
And it just said, the tweet says, can't bring her anywhere.
Can't bring my niece anywhere.
And people are like, okay.
I'm scared to ask how old, how old is the daughter?
Yeah, Randy wasn't.
I'm not joking.
I'm joking.
See, that's the joke.
That's the joke from Slack.
The niece, she's, uh, I don't know.
I don't know.
But it was, you're like, it's her picks up two fully loaded dogs and just stuffs them in her mouth.
Is she a kid or is she an adult?
You know.
It's hard to say.
Closer to adult, but probably teenager to early.
We don't know.
We don't know.
He deleted it after just people, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
most often, the most common quote to what I saw was, what do you, what's Mario Lopez doing?
Which you don't want that. You don't want to ever see that. If I'm Mario Lopez and I was like
trying to post that or somebody posted it for me, I'm just going to be like, all right, I'm
just going to look at my team and be like, raise your hand if you were against this, but we're too
afraid to say anything. And then I'm firing that person. You ever, you ever throw something out in
the group chat and like the worst thing other than like people just straight of ignoring it is
somebody hits it with a question mark. And you're like, oh God. Yeah.
That's what happened to him, but on X, the Everything app.
And like two millions of people.
I'm drinking with Mario.
I'm sipping with Mario Lopez.
I think that's the move.
I don't know if it's because of his heritage, but I just feel like he probably would
look really good pouring me a sipper of tequila wearing like dress pants and a tucked in
form fitting shirt.
Yeah.
And I think we're probably going to slow sip.
Yeah.
I mean, he's somebody who is a special.
part of my my childhood um dude you're gas and beers with ac slater yeah if i could tell the boys
like yeah dude i put back like 10 hogs i crack 10 hogs or i don't know 10 miller lights whatever randy
with with with with with with with with with with with with with with with
i got no notes i got i got i got nothing out i think that that's that that's the call hunter
biden where are we at on you you've teed this up too easily i mean that that's who you're snorting
Well, I believe is a recovering in recovery.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So let's just say you have Hunter at his prime.
No, I don't want to say it in like a mean way.
Hunter when he was like still doing things of this nature.
Yeah.
No, I don't even need to go back.
I'm just looking to knock Hunter off the wagon one time for like a night we'll both
remember forever.
Well, here's the problem.
He is addressed online.
He wasn't a snorter.
He smoked it.
He didn't snort at all.
He just a crack smoker.
He was a pipe smoker.
So I don't know if you really want to snort.
him. I don't know if he really knows.
No, I still think he knows the best way to snort things versus the other two.
Like, we're going to get the best use out of our drugs.
I mean, I would always imagine that Hunter Biden probably had a pretty good dealer.
You'd think so.
You know, you'd think so.
You'd still Hunter Biden.
All the access, you know, like he, this, this is a guy that I'm sure, like, has your back on the, the, he's got the little testing things.
Yeah.
Right?
He's got those locked and loaded, ready to go.
He knows how to work those quickly.
There's no downtime when we're cutting up lines.
And with the heater that this guy is on right now,
he's probably got as much access to any place you want to go
as you could possibly imagine.
Well, he also has probably like some sort of,
he knows the security of it probably better than the other two.
So if I'm going to do the most,
I don't even know if it's the most illegal at this point.
He's getting caught with Coke and Austin,
the same is getting caught with a weed gummy.
Coke is still a felony.
Okay.
But anything other than Delta,
weed, I believe, is a felony.
Okay.
So, yeah, I mean, I guess stuff that you was legal a month ago to have is now,
could now get you locked up.
Can you imagine if you were just like on 6th Street and you had like a gummy in your
Zen container, cops got you and suddenly you're doing two years because you had a,
you had a weed gummy.
Yeah.
That wasn't the right.
Should have read the law.
Should dispose of all your stuff, dude.
Why didn't you do that?
Dude, go look in like your dop kit.
Dude, I think Dan Patrick should stick to sports radio.
Oh.
Only real ones know that.
Yeah, dude, my dop kit, I need to go do an assessment.
Because I've got like ballmarkers, coins, old allergy pills, golf teas, and then probably an edible.
Definitely some early bird, but God knows what else.
How does this affect drinks?
Like I believe anything there's still drinks you can still get a drink in a tincture it just has to be delta nine
I'm just thinking about like uh what total wine by us they changed a whole wall into tc drinks
they did that's why that's where hog comes in to fill the void oh a delta nine alcohol
mhm twisted hogs oh we're just workshopping we're having fun did you have to holster this segment till
Dylan was gone because he would have said snort for all of them.
Yeah.
He would have been like, okay.
He would have checked out by now.
He would have been like just looking at Twitter for something else to talk about.
I can always tell when he's like, all right, well, let's move on.
He's like, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, sure.
Oh, you can tell at the, you can tell at a bar when Dylan's tired of what you're talking about.
It's like, okay, I should switch the subject.
You see Arch lately?
Yeah.
How we feel about Arch?
This would be a fun game to play with just to go, the entire cast,
we'll just go down the list of my new favorite reality show on TV,
Nation's Dumbest.
Not familiar?
No?
We'd like to know.
I believe it's on the, uh, is it, Will's got it pulled up here.
Is it ABC?
Is it ABC broadcasting, Nation's Dumbest?
Says here it's streaming for free on Tooby.
Okay.
All right.
It's also on Hulu and Disney Plus.
It's on one.
Okay.
That makes, that makes it.
Too many platforms.
Yeah, it's, but it's on broadcast, which is where I've been, been catching it.
Okay.
And, uh, they got together a bunch of C&D list celebrities.
Um, notable names include IceT, Matt Liner, Jojo Siwa, Steveo, former presidential candidate, Andrew Yang, Dr. Drew.
Okay.
Uh, Carmen Electra is in there.
Colaria Baldwin, bunch, bunch of randos.
Oh, dude, you didn't tell me, uh, Huddy was in there.
Who?
Huddy?
I don't know who this kid.
He just looks like a Gen Z.
Oh, streamer type.
I think he's the one, he's like the one guy.
I don't know who that is.
Chase Hudson?
Is that him?
Are you watching this, dude?
It looks terrible.
There's no way this is good, man.
It looks terrible.
And the goal is to, here's, the concept is interesting because the goal is to get off the show.
The goal is to get off the show so that you are not, you are not crowned the nation's dumbest.
And I, I, look, this happens to me every year.
August rolls around.
There's no more sports left, except for I did catch a pretty thrilling Mercury, Chicago,
WNBA game last night.
I've been following my wings.
And, but yeah, so I always lock in on, on some terrible reality show that they, that they
throw on to fill, to fill the void on the broadcast channels.
It's just my, it's like my seven, seven p.m. I'm, I'm getting dinner ready or we're sitting
down to eat. I'm not ready to lock into a show yet. I got to throw something on.
And I'm, I, I, this is sober, boomer of you? Well, they don't call me boomer bear it for nothing,
Will.
Dude, he's chopped.
So I get, I get locked in on, on this type of schlock, but, but this game is making me think
of several of the names on this is a show Dylan, Dylan would be in on.
And I don't mean that as a slight.
Do I have any, do we, do we, do we have any nation's dumbest, uh, enjoyers in the chat?
I don't know, ask Will.
He's too busy chopping it up in the chat.
I can't chat.
Why can't do them like that?
I can't chat with the homies.
He's just, he's just engaging.
Come on, dude.
He's in the arena.
I'm chatting with the homies.
This is interesting.
I don't, Jojo, I mean, fresh off her cruise.
I'm shocked she rolled right into this.
Also, Alex Baldwin, his wife.
Hilaria.
Yeah, yeah.
Who is Spanish?
Wait, wasn't she just on Dancing with the Stars?
Who?
Hilaria or Jojo?
Alex Bar, the wife.
I think she was.
A Baldwin.
Alex Baldwin's wife, Hilaria?
Maybe.
She might have been.
You know her, ma'am.
Just an authentic Spanish woman.
One of those things where I'm like, how do you, how do you survive that?
How do you survive coming, like, when people are like, you don't, you're faking the accent.
She's got the accent on the show.
Oh, yeah, she had to.
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Where are you guys at on your Sheridan?
Your Taylor Sheridan viewing.
Are you guys consuming any of his content?
No.
I'm not.
Have you ever dabbled?
Yellowstone?
I have dabbled.
I have dabbled.
Ross and I covered two seasons of Yellowstone probably five or six years ago.
Okay.
So before you realized what it was really about to become, like first season.
So we were not live with the seasons.
We were, the show was, you know, probably at its, at maybe its peak with, with the buzz.
Okay.
Around season three.
And we decided to try to catch up because it was, you know, it was in the geist.
It's what people were talking about.
And I think we made it through two seasons, but we may not have finished the second because it gets soapy fast.
Yeah.
It really did.
And that, that's essentially, I think that's the extent of my, of my Sheridan verse.
watching now you've got some films he's involved like sacario yeah yeah um yep uh hell or
high water hell or high water i always say hell or high noon uh wind river all ones that are like
critically acclaimed yeah different ways then you got landman land man land man yeah i watched most of the
first season of landman i'm still watching landman what uh willst randall whilst acknowledging that what i'm
better than Yellowstone. It's just, it has like the gimmicky angle of like, it's West Texas cool.
I know people in this world kind of. It's interesting. Yep. And also like it's a lot of fan service,
whatever. Then you got Lioness. Zoe Saldania. I will say for my money, I liked the performances from
Billy Bob and Ali Larder. Sure. I enjoyed more than what I was getting from any of the performances on
on Yellowstone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Lioness season three dropped and I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot
I'm into this show. Essentially, she is a, she's a top dog over at the CIA, not a director,
not a deputy director, but like she's like a point person. She runs a team in the Lioness program.
And they, in the first couple of seasons, her job is to like find female active duty military
and run them through the program
and they are going to be,
this is like the top of the top.
They are like the badasses
and they are running these ops
and only a woman could do.
They can do anything.
They can do anything, as we've said,
ally point for Will.
And season three,
here's the thing.
With Taylor Sheridan,
there's a lot of like,
he has his boxes he has to check
and there's things now
that he's very like
synonymous and self-aware
that he is associated with like the manosphere,
the quote,
manosphere,
like he's in,
he'll do Rogan.
He's a,
he's had Rogan a few times.
He's very into like,
his dialogue,
especially in Landman,
he likes to editorialize,
and you realize that if you know what he's doing,
it makes the show almost unwatchable.
Actually,
it does make it unwatchable.
When you realize this,
like, monologue that Billy Bob Thornton's doing
about like windmills and oil and gas,
you're like, okay,
let him go off for two minutes on like,
this talking point, this straw man argument against like a chat GPT,
uh, left wing criticism of the oil and gas industry.
We're going to let Billy Bob address that, even though it doesn't really fit in the show,
but go off.
You're like, okay, cool.
Uh, he loves doing that now.
And it makes the show, it's, it's hard to get past that because it's not subtle.
The problem is it's not subtle at all.
And he likes to insert these little things into the show.
And in the first scene, uh, there's a, okay, well, there's a, uh, a month.
That leads off season one, season three, episode one.
And Zoe, her character working out in the garage.
Cool.
Looks great.
It's not overly sexualized.
It's like, here she is.
She's lifting weight.
She's doing some abs and stuff.
You know, she's the lioness program.
Yeah.
And then it's her in the shower.
And it's a see-through.
It's a glass shower.
And there's her naked Zoe.
And there's her looking great.
It's Zoe, right?
Academy Award winner.
And then her husband, like, comes in.
Her husband's kind of, he's not in the military.
He's not a total cuck, but he's got, he's clearly not the alpha in this one.
And he, like, he tries to get in there and like, you know, going to do some sex.
Yeah.
And he like, oh my gosh, water's freezing cold.
And she's like, yeah, it's a cold shower.
It's good for inflammation.
And it's just very like on the nose.
Like, yeah, okay.
Taylor's been taking some cold showers.
He's, yeah, this guy's really into, yeah.
He's in his cold plunger.
Yeah, it's just very like written.
It's like, I'm going to throw this.
I'm going to throw a nod to all the bros out there doing the cold plunges.
And she just is like, yeah, it's a cold shower.
Take them every day.
It's great for inflammation.
And you're like, okay, cool.
Don't let that stop you from watching the show because the show itself, it rules.
Why?
Go ahead.
Well, now I want to know why it rules.
Because you get a ton of like, it's, it's a lot of like military porn, like CIA,
Black Ops, off the books.
Oh, but also fucking Delta Force.
Is he writing all of this?
Yeah.
Just alone?
Yeah, and he does not take,
he does not have writing partners.
So he is.
This, okay, this is actually a red flag to me.
He's so prolific.
He's got, what, six different shows on the air right now?
Don't know how he's doing it all.
Exactly.
And he writes all of them.
It's incredibly impressive.
I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to, you know,
I don't know much about Taylor Sheridan,
but, you know, just at a quick glance,
he has the vibe of a guy who types
like Dylan types
and I just don't believe that he can put out
this many shows at this rapid of a clip
that is absolutely true
especially when you see him
another thing he does
and he did this in Yellowstone
and he's done this in a few things
now he comes from an acting background
so it's not completely crazy
but he acts to write himself into like
the dope his characters
not main characters but like
In Yellowstone, he was like a horse trainer who was badass, just a cowboy.
And he got to have like sick, you know, quick one-liners.
And it's like, oh, that dude, that dude flocks.
Cassabelle Hadid is his girlfriend in this show, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who is also in the horse world.
She was dating the Venezuelan cowboy or whatever.
Bull rider.
Yeah.
Has he written himself into lioness?
The answer is yes, he has.
What kind of character do you think?
think he wrote himself into?
I like a total like a nerd like, you know, behind the scenes like guy.
He's a sniper.
No, I'm going to get.
He's he's either like a big wig behind the desk, CIA, you know, manager or he's or
he's some male equivalent of the, the lioness agents.
Randy, look up Cody Spears, lioness.
Okay.
Cody Spears, Delta Force team leader.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He wrote himself in as the Delta Force team leader.
And he's a big part of this episode.
Like he's not like a fringe guy.
He's like leading the ops.
And by the way, he looks just as sick.
When you picture like, what's a team lead Delta Force?
Like best is the best.
This is what you picture.
Yeah, Will, he does some sniping.
Yeah.
He does a little sniping.
And yeah, his name's Cody Spears.
And it's just hilarious.
It's exactly what I would do if I were to, if I were him and I was like, I can
write myself into this show.
Like,
may as well be the,
uh,
the unit leader and get the cosplay as like,
uh,
one of these guys.
Yeah.
So yeah,
it's just,
it's just fucking hilarious.
And,
but the show is compelling and the storylines are usually pretty good.
They sneak some like,
Nicole Kidman's in the show by the one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh,
Morgan Freeman.
I believe it's still in the show.
It's a huge cast and like,
you get a lot of like editorializing where it's like,
here's Nicole Kidman back at like,
like with her husband who's like a weird miscellaneous
Wall Street guy and like they're talking like the real threat
isn't Russia or China, it's AI and it's like ooh and but like it doesn't
really have anything to do with like the plot.
It's just like him throwing these things in there that he clearly read about.
And he's like, well, people should know about this.
It's just hilarious and also cool because there's a lot of like drone warfare.
So how would you is it, is it do you think it's an atmosphere?
description to call lioness like red meat homeland oh yes yes less of a spy she's not really a spy
oh she has worked for the cia she's not under but there is like she does have people who go under
it's more it's way more military than than spy then yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but you're that's a
a good call now i've recommended the agency yeah so i'm i'm having a hard time selling my wife on the agency
We keep watching the trailer for season one, and it's just, it's not, you know, it's not passing muster for some reason.
I get it.
I get it.
And so I imagine that Lioness is going to be an even more difficult sell.
Well, let me tell you, because I don't mean, I know, I bet Laura would appreciate a strong female lead.
True.
Yeah, true.
And Zoe is that.
Zoe is that.
And I know I do, Al at point, coming my way.
Zoe is that.
She's a badass in this show.
But not like, is she what?
Is she her?
She's absolutely her.
But not like so much so where you're like, okay.
It's like a good like depiction of like maybe what this character would be in her life.
It's good show.
But there are some things that I may have ruined the show for anybody trying to watch it now because they're going to be, oh my God, he's doing the thing.
He wrote this dialogue.
He's clearly pandering to.
you know, oil and gas industry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whatever faction of geopolitics.
That's how I enjoy shows through that prism.
And it is, it is worth watching, I think.
So that is my pitch to y'all.
Okay.
On Lioness.
Plus, as always.
Bring on.
I haven't noticed.
Might have to fire up that, that Showtime subscription.
Once again.
Yeah.
Just brute force, the agency and Lioness, you know, have a little.
have a little geopolitical fall.
Yeah, man.
Then you'll really start seeing things for what they are.
Yeah.
It's the only way to do it.
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got to talk song in the summer. I'm curious. I'm a fan of retail therapy. I feel a little left out. I'm
not wearing a tie-dice shirt today. Yeah, you fucked up. I feel very left out that I'm not wearing
cool Nikes today. Yeah, yeah. But I feel like we can we can all agree or maybe we can all agree
that there is a song in the summer and it might not be what people think. There's one that's been
tossed around a lot. I'm not going to name it. But we'll see if we get there.
Well, I'm curious, if you guys have kicked this around at all on the pod.
We've not.
We've not.
To be honest, it's been a bit of a down year in both summer TV, which we have talked about on the pod.
But I would also say summer tunes.
I actually don't necessarily agree that there is a song of this summer.
Okay.
Now, I'm sure I know which song you're thinking of that.
Ooh, should we all say it on the count of three?
That maybe is the leader in the clubhouse.
I have a leader, too.
I just wonder if we're all thinking of the same song.
Male or female artist?
Female.
Female.
All right, how about this?
One, two, three.
Choosing Texas.
Bruce Horns be in the rain.
Says Bolnar.
Yeah, so choose in Texas is in the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the, is the guyst's choice.
It is.
I haven't listened to this song, full through.
time. Can I join you?
Uh, same. Like, I've heard it. I know some of the words to it. I know the hook. I've seen
clips of it online. I've seen it used on a million reels. I have never been driving in the car
and had it start and then finish it. I've never put it on my own Spotify. From what I've
heard, I understand why people think it's a good song. It's a great hook. I don't understand
how it has this much staying power on the charts. It makes no sense to me. You know where I heard
the song first was a a reel that was a video grab of a TikTok and it was a guy and it said me
when World War III pops off and it's a guy in like a poorly photoshopped or added in face in a tank
and it's like him with the ox the whole point is like what he's listening to and he was listening to this
song as he's like driving around in a tank like shooting at buildings okay and that's where I heard
this song. And then I heard it, then it became like, this is like five months ago, it feels like.
But yeah, that, that's the song. And will I join you? I don't think I've listened to it all
the way through. I definitely have. Which isn't a flex. I'm just saying this. I mean, I probably
have it a restaurant. That's fair. Like, yeah. Can I, do you mind if I hijack the,
this entire conversation real quick for about five minutes? Please. Are you familiar with on the country
charts anyway, the one song that is potentially going to knock off choosing Texas.
It's by another female artist, who I literally learned about yesterday.
It's not B-Her by also Ella Langley?
No, it's not.
It's called Boston, and it's by Stella Lefty.
Okay.
Have you heard of this?
No.
Stella Lefty.
Stella Lefty.
She's wait.
Well, I was bearing the lead, but Will went right there.
Oh, sorry.
The song Boston is an interpolation of Noa Conn.
stick season. Oh, okay. And so it's, it's, I did hear this. It's, it's obviously like, the,
the, the, the catchiness of it is, is built in. Um, I, she apparently had like, she's from Chicago.
She had a massive, massive, massive crowd at Lollapalooza this past weekend. The type that,
that we typically call like the Lizzo crowd at ACL, because they put her on a way too small stage.
And then there's like, you know, a hundred thousand people trying to, to, to crush. Bailing on third
I blind as they're playing their encore to go over to yeah yeah I remember it well um so I started
looking into her yesterday listening to her songs she's got like a seven song EP um that is incredibly
well produced every single song is extremely catchy and extremely listenable and um yes she is a
nepo baby the the likes of which make gracie Abrams look like she pulled herself up by her bootstraps
her dad is worth $5 billion because he founded Groupon.
And, uh, okay.
Okay.
Okay, but, but, but, but,
not a musical Nepo baby.
Not a musical Nepo baby.
But okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's, you know, I know, I know,
I know nepo babies are a tale as old as time in, in the entertainment industry,
but I do feel like, I don't know, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like the
percentage of entertainers, performers, actors, musicians, whatever.
I, I just feel like,
percentage is climbing higher and higher and higher and higher of who gets to to be that.
I think it's like it feels like it's 90% Nepo baby.
Devil's devil's advocate.
Much like people feel creatively freed up when their wife is not watching them make dinner.
Like are these Nepo babies just feeling creatively freed up because their dads are
billionaires who found a group on and they can just go out there.
Yes, that's the, that's the whole point is that they have the, I mean,
I don't, a safety net is like not even the right word for it.
They can, they literally don't have to do anything except for focus on the art.
They're not playing a Friday night covers with a jar at Eurasia with a guitar.
Right, right.
And also like, they can get in, they have resources of networking that other people don't have.
Like, even though like he's a coupon guy, I'm sure she could probably get into some sweets with some people.
And one of her, one of her other big songs right now besides the Boston one is like this,
was co-written by the same person that co-wrote,
she was in Texas.
Like,
her production is insane because she can already afford that level of,
of productions.
And I also don't want to take,
like,
like at the end of the day,
yes,
she has to have a good,
good voice.
She has to have some sort of presence.
She has to have some musical bone in her body.
Like,
and she is clearly good at this.
Sure.
In the same way that I think Gracie Abrams is.
But yeah,
the,
the,
the,
they start so,
so much further.
head than literally anybody else that it's you know it's certainly a a bit of an unfair advantage it's
tough i don't and i don't i don't know i just don't want to like like it kind of sucks to be reaching
a point where every single person that gets to do something creative didn't didn't have to struggle
to yeah yeah to create agree and like i i don't know i that my to compare her fairly or unfairly to
other country um female country artists where i see like casey musgraves and i don't know
her stuff is on the charts.
Like, I don't know, because she had an album that's come out,
came out this year.
Yeah.
And it's like, I wonder if she's, like, are people listening to her still?
Like, is her demographic now like solely 30 and above?
Casey's.
Can she compete with these, you know, the people,
these songwriters or these singers, I should say,
that come up and like make stuff like hoping it just goes off on TikTok.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whereas Casey, like, has been around for a long time.
It is like a very unique artist and yeah.
just an East Texas girl, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
I think Casey is absolutely still successful in her own right,
but I would say that her recent album has probably been a bit of a disappointment.
Really?
Hasn't disappointed on KJ, I'll tell you that.
I think he's in the chat.
Oh, sorry, KJJ.
But honestly, I'm sort of like talking out of my ass there.
I don't really know.
Okay.
I know she had to drop a couple.
Like she had added dates to her tour, which she then had to drop.
man, I base a lot of this off of like...
Yeah, she canceled the first few tour dates
that she had for her new tour without any explanation.
Which is usually a bad sign.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I've seen that happen a lot.
Yeah.
I mean, middle of nowhere,
says it debuted number one on the top of albums.
I liked it.
Pretty good.
Yeah, that's a little bit of it.
Yeah, it was a real bummer.
I know you were sad because you were scheduled to go to the jelly roll post Malone show.
And they canceled that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What happened there?
I don't know. I don't know.
You know.
Despite the question, Dave, like, if we're talking Nepo baby, it's like, where do you think
Mary Cutter be if her dad was super successfully, you know?
Do you think that she'd be at the top of the charts?
You got to think so, right?
I think she should be regardless of anything.
Isn't her dad the Cutterwater guy?
Cutwater.
Oh, is it Cutwater?
I think so.
Randy, get us some nominations from the chat for Song of the Summer outside of Ella Langley,
choose in Texas.
Will's right.
It is Valley Road, Bruce Hornsby.
I just want to put that.
I mean, if you're rocking with us, then that's what we're rocking with.
Yeah.
If I'm getting the touch tunes, putting my control anytime in the next few months,
like I'm going Valley Road first.
You know when that song would have hit real hard back in the PGP touching bass Miata days?
Yeah.
When we're just us in a Miata, just listening to that.
I was driving to work yesterday and I was stuck behind a Merlo Miata.
Oh, really?
Took me back.
Nistalgia much.
Spotify told me that Shibuzi has a new album out.
Shibuzi is also the face of college football this season.
So, yeah, we're in for a Shibuzy.
What a come up for him?
A Shabuzi fall as well.
Can I pitch you, how about, can I nominate Dye-Dai by Shakira World Cup Summer?
Yeah, that's a bot for me.
If any, if I saw that get first place votes in the AP poll for the song of the summer,
I'm like, that's kind of a great choice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So do you think that Stella is,
going to be she's going to be at ACL yeah you think that they're going to change to her bigger stage
then I think ACL likes to do that yeah I agree they were chapel her own right do you think it's a
coincidence that her big song is a geographically specific song do you think the songwriters are
like all right choose in texas popped off what if we did boston is it a tennessee disc track
choose in texas yeah uh is it she talks memphis she talks smoky mountains
so is it a texas this song well
Texas wins, because he chose Texas.
Right, I know, I know.
But so, I don't know.
Whereas she's a Tennessee girl.
Yeah.
It's almost like, she's not, she's a Nashville artist, but she's from Alabama.
Oh, we'll see.
Come on.
And Stella Lefty, no connection to Boston.
She's from Chicago.
Stella Lefty is such a, like, old school, like troubadour, like.
Yeah.
Oh, Stella Lefty.
She kind of sounds like a lot, like, I showed her music to Laura last night,
and we were talking about how she sounds a lot like country music from when
we were in college.
Like, it sort of have is like a Josh Abbott band,
Eli Young sort of, it's obviously way more pop than that,
but that's the sort of like...
I'm going to give it a listen.
It's good.
I hate, like, I hate to say that,
but like, I will go back and listen to it more and more.
What day ACL is she?
I'm not sure.
You know, I'm a Friday,
that's the only thing I was going to say,
though, Randy, is that I think her crowd was extra big
because she's from Chicago.
So I think Lala was kind of her, you know,
that's her home base.
I don't know if she'll be quite as big at ACL,
but I'm sure the crowd will be.
huge and full of all of the
17-year-olds.
You don't know what it was like living in
Chicago back during the chance years.
Oh, God. He would pop up at
every single music festival and do a
surprise set. It was awesome.
Chance. Man. Talk about a falloff, though.
New album had some good songs.
Did it? Yeah.
I thought it did. I didn't listen to it all the way through.
I was never that into Chance. He was
like, I would listen to like selected songs,
but I never did like a full album,
die. So I can't. Never leave it up to chance, dude. I like his style. His style seemed cool.
It's an interesting one, but it's not one that I want to listen to over and over and over again.
Yeah. I have a couple chance songs that find, find their way into the rotation. I get it.
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Speaking of bands that might be at ACL, they're not.
But I did see this Puddle of Mud tweet going off.
And I just, I want to see if you agree or disagree.
This new segment's called Agree or Disagree with this tweet.
They were at Russ Fest or whatever and Silicon Valley.
Oh, yeah.
It's a good poll.
Just read the tweet first.
You want me to read it here.
It says,
um,
puddle of mud,
blurry MTV spring break,
2002. This video is a perfect encapsulation of everything that's been stolen from us. Yeah, you didn't
think I was going to pronounce that correctly, did you? It was really good, Randy. I just want to ask,
like, is it? It's puddle of mud 2002. Like, if you think of like the new metal slash butt rock
of 2002, puddle mud, were they even like of that tier of artists? Were they one that you're like,
man, I miss them? I mean, are you going to play the very?
video? Play a video. Yeah, people are like,
it's Creed and Nickelback that people
are really...
You remember this song? Yeah.
Not necessarily
the song you'd want to hear at Spring Break.
Gotta be honest with me, but the girls
like it. Do they even blow up a boat
in the background? That, Randy...
You guys keep stepping on my toes. Not every
band got that treatment, dude.
Come on.
They got the Fear Factor.
The sign in the back.
Back with old Joe Rogan.
I read that this song is about a custody dispute
with his X, so it's like, yeah, spring break, song in the summer.
Sick.
Pudel of Mud, she fucking hates me, right?
That's it, that's it.
Which probably my choice of track.
No, but they did steal stuff from us, guys.
I think we're overlooking.
Did they?
I think we're overlooking.
Like, MTV barely exists anymore.
We don't get MTV Spring Break.
Okay, they did.
You know, shitty bands like this don't get the opportunity to be.
be the number three video on TRL anymore.
Will and I,
inexplicably. A band like this is a band that starts in someone's garage.
And, you know, I'm worried that we don't have enough.
I think too many people are starting on garage band and not a band in a garage.
Oh, dude.
And you can print that.
Well, Randy stole my bit already.
But, like, what a missed opportunity to not use the limp biscuit blowing up the boat at spring break here for this tweet.
There's been a ton of Limbiscuit nostalgia.
If you're Limbiscuit and you find out that puddle of mud blew up a boat during their performance, you're like, well, then what do we get to do?
Like, if they got to do it, then we get to do something more extravagant.
I think you have to sacrifice a band member.
I'm just saying, like, Will and I have talked about Limbiscuit blowing up the boat on retail therapy, no fewer than three, four times over the last three years, I would say.
It was sick.
Sure.
Like, that is a core memory for me.
And so I respect the take here of, like, that 2000.
to MTV Spring Break is absolute God-tier content that was taken from us.
My, my, but I just, the, the choice of puddle of mud doing like a pretty slow burn.
Yeah, like a song you listen to and like your girlfriend stopped talking to you.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just driving home, like in your Jeep.
That's a weird choice.
That's a weird choice.
Yeah.
My, my core spring break, MTV Spring Break memories are one, Daisy Fuentes.
I just love 90s kid.
I love Daisy Fuentes.
Two,
Eminem,
when it was still like 1999,
2000 Eminem,
like Slim Shady,
like,
hi my name is.
And him doing that song at spring break
and just like all like the,
I don't know,
the model,
the swimsuit girls coming out.
Yeah.
And just walking,
like doing the runway.
And him just like,
just awkwardly trying to dance with every one of them.
Uh-huh.
And like,
it was just very,
like,
they were clearly like,
didn't know what to do.
It's one of the more awkward.
Yeah.
I think it was sexual harassment.
It was.
It's not something that aged well.
No.
I mean, for me, I think the number one
memory of MTV Spring Break,
outside of Spring or Break,
whipped cream bikinis,
was probably bullish
performing glycerin in the rain.
In the rain, yeah.
Like that was all time.
Gavin.
Speaking of MTV Spring Break,
whipped cream bikinis and aging well,
Carmen Electra also on Nation's dumbest,
not aging well.
Sorry.
You can subtract an ally point from me, Randy.
Oh, God.
No, no, no, no, time out.
Give him one back.
They cancel out because he called his own foul, and I respect that.
Wow.
Integrity point.
Time out.
All right.
Take one from me.
Yes.
For assuming that that should be a, yeah, I'm not one to give out.
I'm not in the position to give that.
Can you give him a male friendship point for taking a fall?
Gotcha.
Thank you.
So I think as we, everyone is at one point.
Actually, Barrett's at zero.
I'm at zero.
I thought I had two ally points.
Women can do everything and something else.
That was just the one thing.
Hey, Will, dude, shout out to this hat.
I know, I saw it in the Instagram story the other night,
and I was thinking, damn, that's a nice hat.
Will gave me this hat.
Will has a treasure trove of hats that are dope,
and he just doesn't wear a lot of them.
Male friendship point for Will.
I meant to bring in all the hat.
I keep forgetting.
I have two stacks of hats that I've gone through in my closet
that I'm going to bring into washed HQ
to see if anybody wants any.
Part of the reason I feel.
okay doing this is because one the hats are dope two a lot of them have been worn less than one
time and zero are you feeling like the pressure like you need to because your wife put you on blast did she
damn i think she posted she said i think will has a hat problem and there's like it's so many hats
i just buy hats and i don't wear it just really like that i separated them into five different
piles i have chill cool guy hat okay that's one pile okay i have golf hats
I have hotel hats, which are golf hat adjacent.
The golf hat pile is the biggest.
And then I have, I think just random graphic hats.
And then I have a Grateful Dead hat stack.
Hotel hats hit hard.
I tried to, I stole Alyssa's and she, because she has like a Palmetto Bluff
montage hat she got.
And it's like she bought it for me, but it's hers.
I tried to wear it once and she was like, you're going to
sweating that hat and I was like fuck you're right I am going to sweat I sweat in hats so I stopped
wearing it so I've decided to stop caring about sweating through my hats I just don't care anymore
I respect that like kind of ungovernable yeah yeah I've also learned that you know just getting
them wet really cleans them off pretty quickly I've got some pool hats that like I just love like I should
wash them but I just wear them to the pool on the weekends dude if you give a hat with some sweat
stains just a quick dunk in the pool sweat stains are gone it's fine
Integrity, the hat's not going to ever be what it was, but it still gets rid of it.
Stumble in the fall.
Wait, I don't even remember.
I saw a puddle of mud on the Death Tones back to school tour.
It, Coca-Cola Starplex and the Ferris wheel at the State Fair was in the background.
They could see it.
And the guy just stopped and goes, man, the Ferris wheel is fucking huge or something.
It's one memory I had.
It wasn't a good show.
blown up the Ferris wheel. They should have. Or just set big techs on fire. You'd burn some years later.
Yeah, he would. I read an anecdote on Twitter last thing on Puddle of Ludd that said, I used to work at
the guitar shop where with one of the ex-band members of Puddle of Mudd. He told us a story that he was
in the band originally and the band auditioned for Fred Durs after they auditioned, Fred Durs said,
I like the front man.
I like the, I like the sound, I like the songs.
But I don't like the band.
They're not stars.
So the lead singer fired the rest of the band on the spot.
It said on the spot.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
So.
He was decisive, you know, he, you got to, you know.
When Fred Durs lays it out like that, you got to, I think you got to listen.
Fred Ders, noted, noted maker of stars.
Noted Wedge.
Noted Wedge in there.
Chocolate Star.
Our fish.
Thank you, Randy, for producing today.
You're welcome.
I'm just exiting the show in like a professional fashion.
Oh.
I just wanted to thank you.
You're welcome?
Okay.
Barrett, man, always a pleasure.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for these Haller Brothers shorts.
New collection out today.
I wear these quite frequently along with the green,
olive greenish ones.
Yeah.
And so I've had two people DM me like,
dude, you're always wearing those shorts.
they're awesome. Where can I get them? Hallibros.
Hallibothers, yeah.
Haller Brothers.
Yeah.
Will DeFries.
It's your boy.
Always a pleasure.
Thank you for having me.
When's retail drop?
Sunday.
Sundays.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go check out retail.
Go check out oysters, clams and cockles.
OCC.
OCC.
Big sode coming up this weekend.
Ooh.
Big episode.
Season three finale.
Big episode.
Hot D.
The other night.
Am I still doing the Patreon?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I need you.
Can you, can you prop me a little bit on the question?
Yeah, I would, yeah, yeah.
I'm always nervous about it because I talked about this yesterday.
I'll be fielding them.
I'll be screening the calls.
Thank God.
This evening.
Your recollection of Game of Thrones characters is incredible.
And it shouldn't shock me because you do it for a living.
But like, also for me, it's just like, as somebody who watches the shows and thinks I'm dialed, I'm still bad with all of the characters.
So, I mean, I'm six episodes into Widows Bay right now.
I couldn't tell you one character name.
Dude
There's so many shows like that
Yeah, I just go off vibe
I don't even know
Zoe Zaldanea's character's name
in Lioness
It's like isn't it
Isn't it?
You don't even watch the show
And you know it
Yeah, this isn't unnecessary
Flex dude
Let's just get out of here
Thanks
See you tomorrow
Peace
With KJ
Bye
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