Citation Needed - Idiom Origins

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

An idiom is a phrase or expression that typically presents a figurative, non-literal meaning attached to the phrase; but some phrases become figurative idioms while retaining the literal meaning of the phrase. Categorized as formulaic language, an idiom's figurative meaning is different from the literal meaning.[1] Idioms occur frequently in all languages; in English alone there are an estimated twenty-five million idiomatic expressions.

Yeah, but my mile times are low. I need to pick up the pace, but I can't seem to find a place to get more efficient, you know? What do you think you can do differently, man? Well, you know, I thought if I could just get the rider under one arm and the bike over my shoulder on the other side, it wouldn't be as awkward and I could probably move quicker. So, so I've just been carrying them together, you know, I just said it. So, wait, so, so when you said you picked up biking, you didn't mean riding a bike?

Wait, you could ride a bike. What did you think? Never mind. Okay. All right. Next one. How about whole nine yards? Ooh good one. Let's see. The whole nine yards is a reference to the fighter pilots during World War II. When they landed their ammunition was defeated. They obviously had to give their all in battle. WWII ammunition came strung together in a nine yard length. Thus to give the whole nine yards is to give your all. Okay, alright, my turn.

While many believe the phrase the whole nine yards is a reference to World War II ammunition, the phrase predates World War II, and the origins are murky. Our best guess is that, hey guys, what are you doing? What's going on? Is this pre-show shenanigans?

We're doing idiom origins today. Oh, are we? Yeah, time just kind of got away with us and we were doing our, our Monday afternoon tradition. What, what's that? What's that? Well, so I go on the internet and tell a believable lie backed up with no information or sources. And, and then I go on and refute the lie then argue that there's pretty much no way to

know offering a very skeptical but unsatisfying answer. Uh, then I say that you should hate anyone who believes what Eli wrote. How long have you been doing this? Well, why? Well, why though? Yeah, you guys are basically describing the worst parts of the internet. Well, okay, well, while there have been some unintended consequences, like the death of discourse, like the death of discourse, it was really to see if we could find someone in the middle.

Yeah, you know, somebody who could both believe this stuff and kind of hate himself while he refutes it. Right, who we make ourselves a gullible skeptic, if you will. Hey, guys, sorry, I'm late. I was reading about how Jeff Epstein didn't kill himself. So when you look at it that way, it's actually been very successful. He didn't though, he didn't kill himself. So when you look at it that way, it's actually been very successful. He didn't though. He didn't kill himself. Okay.

Hello and welcome. The citation needed the podcast where we choose to subject feed a single article about it on Wikipedia and pretend we're experts. Because this is the internet, and that's how it works now. I'm Eli Bosnick and I'll be weaving the words first tonight, but I'll need some total fucking idioms. First up, two men whose cat has definitely gotten their tongue, Cecil, and Noah. Careful, last time someone made fun of my cats, they cut out their heart and waited against a feather, you know what?

Yeah, I'm not sure what they do to it exactly, but at the end, my tongue thinks the stuff like, uh, always his the little biggest boom boom is a sentence so yeah. They got it. And also joining us tonight, two guys who always cut the mustard like a BCK keeps and Tom. Okay, there's a kernel of truth in there. What are we doing? I don't get the game. I don't know. Mustard, kernel, I haven't got a clue.

That's nice. Oh, yeah. There we go. Do we do it right? Before I begin tonight, I'd like to thank our patrons. Patrons, you're the Apple to our eye, the bees to our knees, the girl with a nose ring to our getting blown in a public place. And even like to learn how to join our ranks, be sure to stick around till the end of the show.

Or if you want to blow us in a public place, I mean, honestly, and without our way, tell us know what person place thing, concept, phenomenon or event will we be talking about today? Today, we're going to be talking about idioms. And see, so you gave this article the one silver. Are you ready to beat around the bush? Did you say feet around the bush? Like when that guy threw his shoes at George W. Bush,

he was like, double-shoon. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I wanted to talk about it today. Today I want to talk about the origins of many popular idioms. One of my recent episodes, we ran into many idioms as common misconceptions. It got me thinking of how these turns of phrase came about and I did a little internet reading or, Pyrrhena and Ivaxer research. With Compedia, it does have an entry for idioms, but it's only explaining what they mean. Many of the origins aren't even listed. So I have to kind of use other sources on this and there are several of these that come from online listicles.

A lot of these are commonly accepted origins or often repeated stories that don't have a lot of basis. In fact, Eli is gonna love the shit out of this. The truth is beauty and the only beauty is truth, Cecil. Well, I can't deny that. Can't deny that. I didn't write that joke, Eli did. Let's start with one.

It doesn't have a clear origin. Turn a blind eye. Oh, please tell me it's originally an asshole reference. Well, I've got a brown eye now. I'm sorry. Yeah, but they're still blind. The phrase itself is used as a way to pretend not to notice something. The origin of this phrase is loosely attributed to British admiral Horatio Nelson.

In 1801, admiral Nelson was leading an attack with another Admiral Sir Hyde Parker in the Battle of Copenhagen. Admiral Nelson was blind in one of his eyes. During the battle, Sir Parker was communicating with Nelson via Sama 4. His message was that Nelson needed to disengage with the enemy and start a retreat. Nelson wasn't convinced that the order was a good one. His assessment of the battle was that he could win. So he took out his telescopic eyepiece, put it up to his blind eye, looked in the direction of the semifor flags and disobeyed the order. He did this while quote, making a slight comment to a fellow officer about reserving the

right to use his blind eye every now and again. And quote, Yeah, that's the origin of doing my own research. That's like the original. Exactly. It's like, it's sort of an asshole reference. Right. The phrase, under the weather, nowadays refers to someone being sick, but the origin of this one is notical. There was a place on the bow of the boat where sailors could ride out a particularly bad storm

and not get seasick. This was especially true for sailors that were already physically sick with some colder bug. The phrase was originally under the weather bow, but we've shortened it to just under the weather. Oh, man, this old tiny milk leg is really killing me because we don't have vaccines or antibiotics yet. Would it help if I tied you to the front of the boat? Yeah, surprisingly it would. Yeah. To beat around the bush means to avoid getting to the point quickly, which is also the

citation needed story. The phrase is linked to hunting roughed grouse in England. I guess these birds hang out in big bushes. And while hunting, the hunters would smack the bush and around the bush to get the birds to come out so they could capture them. So some guys like, all right, you want me to go feed around the bush and then you're going to, you're going to fire a giant cone of bird shot in my general direction right after that. Yeah, it sounds good.

No, I got it. I know from Hey, hey, if it's good enough for Dick Cheney, it's good enough for you. They don't say how, but I like to think of them running through the forest after a bird of the little cloth sack. I think that's better than shooting them. There, I think I've given you quite enough and you end up key words for the rest of the episode. Yes. Well, this is still not an asshole reference. I guess it's true. That is should have been. I've pushed there. It's Italian.

Got all this toilet paper just hanging out the back. It's crazy. Reading someone the riot act is to give someone a reprimand. The rough growl sat in there for me. Reading someone the riot act is to give someone a reprimand when they're acting inappropriately or behaving badly. The phrase looks like it originated in 1714 when the British government passed the Riot

Act, which made it illegal for crowds of 12 or more to assemble. I guess the authorities would walk up to your loud ass group at Benagans and literally just start reading the Riot Act, which explains that you have to disperse or you go to jail. Yeah, the American version is a little different. The outgoing president shows up at Benagans and gives you a bunch of meth and plays rock the music and then sends you a new song. Yeah. The next one sounds made up,

but in fact, the article I referred to says it's a dubious origin. Spilling the beans supposedly comes from ancient Greece. When ancient Greeks voted, they did so by dropping beans in a jar. Now, the article says they used black and brown beans, which seems a little too similar, but what do I know? That's racist. I would have said the same thing if they were cream and white, um, the

jar would conceal the tally until the end of the voting. But if you knocked the canister over, then the votes would pour out and everyone would see them revealing the tally and thus spilling the beans. Okay, again, American version, way different, the black and brown ones need like nine forms of ID and fill out an essay portion before they can. And then your shitty uncle spends the next two years swearing that there's a hole at the bottom of the jar that's controlled by the Jews. It's fun. It's fun. So the next idiom actually has multiple meanings. The proof is in the pudding can mean that there's evidence of a claim or that the success

of something can only be measured by putting it to its intended use, or, and this is when I haven't heard, quote, the process of achieving something isn't important as long as the end product is good, example, I may have to walk a thousand miles to find this treasure, but the proof is in the pudding." So, why so many meetings? Well, Americans abbreviated the original, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and that meaning is pretty straightforward when they have the whole saying, no matter the presentation of the dish, it's how it tastes.

Yeah, that's a phrase that betrays the relative naive innocence of the pre-green ketchup era. Right? So the process is as important as long as you get what you want in the end, is that the in-cell motto or the new Republican platform. Yeah. That's the same thing. In the bag has a New York baseball origin.

The New York Giants, now the San Francisco Giants would carry a bag full of baseballs onto the field pregame. This bag would be used to replenish the baseballs head out of the field of play during the game. During the 1916 season, the Giants had a 26 game winning streak. During that streak, the Giants, quote, fell under the impression that if they were in the lead in the ninth, they carried the bag off the field. And that would ensure their win because according to the team, they had captured the game in the bag."

And quote, nope, that's a rough. Sorry. Does anyone want this? Why do we even have bushes out here, so don't be. To fly off the handle takes us back to a time without planned obsolescence. When you had to repair things instead of replacing them and they wore out enough to be unusable, tools like axes and hammers, which require vigorous use and structural integrity

could break while they were being employed. When they did the very dangerous part, the head, vigorous use and structural integrity could break while they were being employed. When they did the very dangerous part, the head, could fly off the handle and thus create a dangerous situation with an unpredictable end. Okay, not for nothing, but I would weigh rather someone throw an axe at me than watch Noah lose a dollar to a vending machine. Like, we're too soon. Request noted.

All right, guys,, quick fun fact. I almost killed my dad with a sledgehammer this way. He was actually holding a post upright and I was driving that post in with a sledgehammer when the head broke off. And it careened past his skull, narrowly missing him at which point he promptly duct taped the sledgehammer back together and handed it back to me to finish it.

That is the dadest thing to ever dad. That is right. We used that sledgehammer for years. They scared me to rub some dirt in it. The hammer? What are you talking about? The idiom to steal someone's thunder means that you preemptively did a thing that someone else

was planning and got the attention for it. The origin of this one goes back to the 1700s theater scene in England. A playwright named John Dennis wrote a play and then invented a device for a thunder sound effect for said play. Well, the play was not well attended and it flopped. Another play at the same playhouse used his device to create thunder during their run. When he heard about it, he said, quote,

that is my thunder by God and the villains will play my thunder but not my play. And quote, so if you need a more modern example, think of the citation needed essay about gladiators that I'm gonna to do that. I will kill you, no illusions. I will kill you.

I will drive to Georgia and kill you. He will. With my period gladiator sword. Are you not entertained by me murdering you? Come on. I will hold it at a 45 degree angle. Back before refrigeration, people preserve food by curing and drying it. One of these foods was salt pork, which had a high fat content.

Sailors would usually run through all the good things to eat and then be stuck with what was left, the salt pork. So they would sit around eating it and complaining about it. Thus we have the phrase, chew the fat. All right, well, I remind Cecil what it's like to eat with Tom and Heath will take a quick break for some apropos of nothing. Eli! Hey, time traveling, Greek grandpa, what's up? This box in the kitchen, the one with the food. Oh, you mean the fridge? How does it stay cold?

Is it an ice box? No, no. It can make ice, though. You got to push the button on the front. Make ice. A miracle. How long does it stay cold? Oh, let me see, like forever.

I mean, you gotta buy a new one every like 20 or 30 years, but yeah, technically forever. 30 years. How does it work? How, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, I'm actually not sure, honestly. I think the coils on the back do something, and there's, is free on? Maybe, I think that's a thing. What's free on?

I want to say it's a gas. Where do you get it? Where does one harness it? How does it make things cool? I don't know. Time traveling great grandpa. I don't know. Damn it Eli. What do you know about your time?

Uh, I know the names of all the original 150 Pokemon. All right. Are you talking about that video game again? Yes I am. Jesus Christ, I went too far. I told you that when you got here, man. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ And we're back.

When we left off, surprisingly few origins were racist. Refreshing. What's next, Cecil? I left those out. OK, well, we've all heard of White Elephant, which now refers to an item that's kind of useless, but difficult to dispose of. The origin of the phrase supposedly comes from the King of Siam.

When he had a particular beef with one of his courteers, he would give that person an actual white elephant, which was a rare albino variety. His plan was to make that person miserable because the person would probably go broke with upkeep costs for the elephant. Okay, oh, it's like when liberal mayors all across Texas, they have like a ton of those.

They would send busloads of homeless people to Austin with one way ticket, just like that Uber driverors all across Texas, they have like a ton of those. They would send busloads of homeless people to Austin with a one-way ticket, just like that Uber driver told us in Austin, and Uber really. Just like that. No, it's like that, but you know, the white elephant thing's real. Yeah, I feel like current events

are making his theory ever more plaudish like the other natural ones, but. Oh yeah, Florida news fucks with everything you say it does. Yeah. Sailors used a lot of jargon, and this next one is a product of that. When a boat was heading into the wind, the boat would be going full and by. When the wind was behind the boat, then that would be considered large. These two terms said together by and large

meant that the wind could be coming from any direction and that's why the phrase means on the whole or in general. Okay, I am not a sailor, but isn't a sailboat going into the wind? Not? Not? Go away into the wind to that. You can take, yeah. Nowadays, not, like not.

Wait, I wanna, huh, do you think sailboats have to go whatever direction the wind is going to take? I mean, can they go the opposite direction of the wind? Yeah, yeah. Otherwise, you'd have to just get really lucky like having sailing with me. I don't be the first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, you know, I can't imagine how that could work. Oh, you know, as you get really lucky, like, have your sailing. I don't be the first to admit. And I believe I, I prefaced my joke with I am not a sailor. Right. But you know, people who have gone sailing didn't come back. I have never seen other people who have gone sailing. Yeah.

I do. I, I, Tom has spent a lot of days on the doc. He has watched them go and he's waited for them to come back. That is right. His country. That's how it works. I'll give the line. How? Nowadays, when you go to a car, how could that work? And all the ripoff could just Google it after we're done.

We're not. We're not fucking. Save. Fucking Google it after we're done. We're not fucking saved. Fucking Google it, man. I'm a Google it right now. Oh, cool. Nowadays when you go to a carnival, all the ripoff games that they try to apply you with are aimed at kids at winning an abnormally large teddy bear that no one ever really wins.

Well back in the day, those games weren't aimed at kids. They were aimed at adults, and the prizes weren't keychains, kush balls or stuffed animals. They were cigars. People who almost one were close, but no cigar. Okay, but now I'm picturing Noah and Heath wearing their shoulder sockets out, trying to win a dime bag in a bottle to scotch. So, Ben, weed's legal in Jersey. You could, you could see that with your own eyes with nothing, but a dented basketball hoop and a time. The term blue moon means something in astronomy. A blue moon occurs when there's a full moon twice in the same month.

It refers to the second full moon. It doesn't happen very often. And in fact, it occurs on average every 2.7 years. So the phrase once in a blue moon refers to that. A moon can look blue on occasion, depending on what's in the air, but it's most commonly a warm color because it's lit by the sun. Oh, and also if you put a little bit of an orange peel around the bottle top, the blue moon is still undrinkable. It's hard to agree. Some people think this next one goes back to medieval times in England. I don't know. Anyway, it came from a couple websites, I don't know if I believe this one.

Proper etiquette dictated that if you were serving your guest food at the end of the meal, you would give them a slice of cold meat. That meat would be beef, pork, or lamb, and it would come from the end of the meal, you would give them a slice of cold meat. That meat would be beef, pork or lamb and it would come from the shoulder of the animal. So to give someone the cold shoulder, would be to give them the hint that the party is over. Now we just stand and say, that's crazy or well to our guests like 40 times in a row and then we hang around the front door for like 30 more minutes. Okay, you guys want to go out? Huh?

You want to go get your toy? And you just throw it out the front door. It's fun. Why didn't we keep the tradition? I would love to hand my wife's friends a half-pound of roast beef. That's it. What's next one goes back to a similar time. In the market, you would buy piglets tied in bags.

No idea why. Seems like the opposite of a freshness seal. Anyway, sometimes a scammer would replace the piglet with a much less desirable animal, like a cat. And if you were to let the cat out of the bag, you would be exposing the plot for the scam. Jokes on you, I'm just gonna eat the cat. Okay.

I don't relate it, no, by the way, cats got your tongue as referenced the way Cecil's cats are gonna rip his fucking tongue out for saying that piglets are more desirable than cats. When you would get your portrait painted, sometimes you would hide one or more of your limbs because if a painter had to fill in that detail, it would cost more.

So something expensive would cost an arm or a leg. This one could refer to soldiers having lost parts of their body and wars, but the other origins less sad. If you want to butter someone up, that means you want to garner their favor through some kind of flattery. This saying goes back to India where people would pray to certain gods by throwing little blobs of ghee at them and ghee is clarified butter. Okay, I was always picturing just, you know, handing somebody like a handful of loose butter, which is a nice thing to do. Right. Right.

I was actually pretty close. Okay. Just picturing up in heaven, Mr. Vichna, they're throwing glue, but you're statue and Vichna is like, nice blessings. Do it. I love this. The next one's probably not true, but as a funny visual in horse racing, supposedly horses are said to relax around goats. I know. It sounds like bullshit. Anyway, some unscrupulous jockeys would take the goat out of a rival stable to make the horse less relaxed and more prone

to spooking. Thus, if someone got your goat, they would irritate you. Another jocky related saying is to win hands down or with your hand off the reins so the wind was easy. Another saying famously originated with jockies, it gets to where you don't even smell it. Also, could you reach that? Could you reach that for me?

We've all heard the term biting the bullet, and this refers to giving someone in surgery or some other painful predicament a bullet to bite on to help them not scream, I guess. Also probably keep their mind off the injury. So if you have to do something, you't want to do, you bite the bullet. All right, just calm down and bite on this metal tube with exploding powder, relax and do that. I feel like butter is going to be more helpful.

Like, you see, right? Another of similar origin is arm to the teeth where someone would have multiple firearms on their person and then have a blade in their mouth. Others think that it just referred to a full set of armor worn over the whole body. The phrase, bearing the hatchet, comes from the Iroquois tradition where they would literally bury your weapons as a sign of peace as a stop to hostilities. Nucleations break down, everybody's just digging super fast and glaring at each other. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, playing with your pipe organ. I do go to town on myself for two. Not that kind of pipe organ. And I guess the stops were baffles that kept the organ from reaching full volume. When you pulled out the stops, the organ would be able to create more sound.

Heard it through the grapevine refers to telegraph wire. So if someone heard something through the grapevine, they were hearing the news from someone else. How anyone can enjoy the pipe organ baffles? Baffles. Baffles. Baffles. Baffles.

Baffles. Baffles. To pass something with flying colors refers to flags of victory. Ships would sail past with their flags of state, which were also referred to their set of colors. This meant that they were successful in battle. If they lost, they would have to strike their colors or take their flag down. Another nautical saying, learn the ropes, refers to new sailors learning to tie knots with the rope and raising and lowering

lowering the sails with that rope. Okay, so you know what I'm going to admit, pass with flying colors. First idiom that you brought up where I'm glad it didn't have a actual Okay, again very much not a sailor, but if you lose a naval battle, does it matter which flag you've hoisted as you descend to the bottom of the ocean? Seems like the winds going behind you are not How do you even go anywhere if you don't have a flag? You can't even go anywhere I'm not a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that.

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I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan sense. So I wanted to cover these here. My first is my favorite stupid saying money can't buy happiness. Yes, it fucking can. Right. In the article, they like to a study that shows that having special occasions that cost a lot like expensive occasions do in fact make us happy. That's very like happiness to me. That study also says that people who spend money on others are also happy. And that's why all I want is for you guys to be happy. Just be happy. And spend your money on someone else like me. Okay, money can buy drugs. You can literally buy serotonin and dope me. Right. You get liquid version, powder version, like butter. Money can't buy happiness, say phrase uttered only by people who will not share their money. Exactly. Picking low hanging fruit is actually the worst way to

do it. People who pick fruit start at the top of the tree for a few reasons. The first is that there's more sunlight up there and the fruit is more right. Second, the bag is lighter, the higher you are on the ladder. If the bag was full of all the unripe fruit from the bottom of the tree, then it would be super heavy at the top. That being said, well, it isn't the best fruit. It's the easiest to get. So the saying does kind of make sense. Yeah. And Cecil swore the Italian ancestors were our first migrant workers. So he would know. All right. Pure is driven snow is a pretty self explanatory saying, but one study, quote, mixed toxins commonly found in car exhaust, which included benzene, tooling, ethyl benzene and xylenes into a environment controlled chamber containing snow.

After one hour, the snow soaked up a large amount of these toxins, making it hazardous to eat. And quote, I guess not. What? Maybe the phrase refers to cocaine. You had to go to Mexico. I don't know. Okay, Cecil, I don't want to shit on the science you just mentioned, but that's a fucking weird experiment. Like, why was it? I feel like that was always the money. We all the new laws. Yeah, you bad. Yeah, but then they diluted a bunch of teeth and then banged it on the table

and the king of England thinks it'll cure cancer. That's true. That's true. He's got a bang right. You got a bang right. Right, right. Yeah, 30 times. The saying it's darkest before the dawn is obviously not true.

It's darkest when the sun is at the opposite side of the planet. Thank you. Not when it's about to crest the horizon. It is coldness before the dawn, just not the darkest. When life gives you lemons, you have lemons. If you go with that single ingredient, you have lemon juice, not lemonade. You need water and sugar to make lemonade. Ooh, it looks like season liberally decided to stop by everybody. So if they

don't give those as well, you're fucked. And the last one is stupid because like oranges would work there, right? Right? You can just give white. Orchus would work. And the last one is great. Well, man, lemons return them and buy oranges. And the last one's great. Low man on the totem pole normally refers to someone who does not have seniority or is an important. The, in fact, the lower figure on a totem pole is the most respected totem poles are thicker and more detailed near the base. Thank you. See, so that's important. Exactly. We said that also were that. Also, detailed.

Also, this is a quote here at the end. Quote, totem poles are carved not by one carver, but by a head carver and a number of apprentice carvers. The head carver has a reputation of a pole. Therefore, he or she personally carves or seriously supervises the bottom 10 feet of the pole. Inexperienced apprentices are allowed more freedom to carve on the higher regions and quote. Yeah, no, it's like why we let Eli write all the ads. And if you had to summarize what you learned in one sentence, what would it be?

That most of these are probably lies. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for the quiz? Yeah, let's do it. All right, yeah. Are you ready for the quiz? Yeah, let's do it. All right, Thesal. Which idiom is most often embraced by conspiracy theorists and idiots who are still waiting

for John. Hey, every cloud has a silver lining. That's the chemtrails the government is controlling it right. B, get a taste of your own medicine, but not if those medicines are antibodies because vaccines are changing your DNA with nanobot microchips wake up sheep. See, it's not rocket science. Rockets aren't real. The earth is.

Seeker answer D ain't nothing but a 5G thing baby. How's that? I cracked the code. All right. All right. So I I want in on the dubious origin story for idioms game. So what idioms should we pretend was created on citation a did. Hey, the whole nine yards came about when we failed to set a limit on how long a hokey time could order on the company car. Okay. Be the big cheese originally referred to the large cheese wheel that he plays in sacrifice a stick before he goes to bed. Cause cheese, I like cheese.

It's better than tell you didn't like tall night. I don't like cheese. God, unsatisfiable. Right. Seen tall and cheese. These are awesome. No, go ahead, go ahead. See, seeing the world through rose colored glasses,

first going to explain how much more positive my outlook is when my sunglasses are coated with a blood of my enemies, or D covering all the angles. Oh, this is a good update. I was just trying to explain this setup of an old tiny battle. Oh yeah, because you're just a satisfactory. I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna go with E,

it's E lie blood is thicker than water. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha campaign slogan. Hey, Dick Trayney eating around the bush. There's a shot of guy in the face. Tom mentioned him earlier. Did you did a dick chain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shot him in the face. B, voter republican, the white elephant of American politics. Dorsey vote Democrat. Money can't buy happiness. Yes, if fucking can. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me.

Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me.

Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. Do me. All the bad. That is correct, well done. Oh, Cecil, you win.

Oh, amazing, I think I'll pick Noah next. All right, well, for Tom, Noah, Cecil and Heath, I'm Eli Bosnick, thank you for hanging out with us today. We'll be back next week, and by then Noah will be an expert on something else, perhaps, gladiators. Between now and then, you can hear Noah Heath and myself on all the puzzle and the thunderstorm podcasts. You can hear Cecil and Tom on Cognave Disaments, and you can listen to Tom and I realize

that being poor is bad over on our podcast, The Old Dads. And if you'd like to help keep this show going, you can make a per episode donation at patreon.com, slash citation pod, or leave us a five star review if you're where you can. If you'd like to get in touch with us, check out past episodes, connect with us on social media, or check the show notes. Be sure to check out citationpod.com. Okay, so now you choose an attack and he's a firetype, so you want a... What, what, what, what an attack? Exactly, do it.

When we're done with this, can we look up how to make antibiotics? I said when we beat the final four. Right. Right. Fine.