Citation Needed - Pizzagate

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

So we actually recorded this last week on Monday so one of the last paragraphs of the episode has outdated info in it. The Pizzagate guy was killed by police during a traffic stop after allegedly pulling out a gun and pointing it at police. This incident happened 4 days after we recorded this episode. https://www.npr.org/2025/01/10/g-s1-42040/pizzagate-gunman-killed-police-north-carolina "Pizzagate" is a conspiracy theory that went viral during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle, falsely claiming that the New York City Police Department (NYPD) had discovered a pedophilia ring linked to members of the Democratic Party while searching through Anthony Weiner's emails.[1][2][3] It has been extensively discredited by a wide range of organizations, including the Washington, D.C. police.[2][3][4]

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Alec Baldwin, Tom, he's a cinematic treasure. Come on. So lifelike. I mean, it's actually creeping me out a little. Oh man, did it get here? It sure did. Fuck. Okay, what got here? What do you got?

Holy shit, is that a kid? Heath, relax, it's a highly realistic love doll of a kid. It's not a real kid. Why do we have one of those? Why not? There's nothing wrong with it. What are you talking about? Of course there's something wrong with it. It's practice doing horrible stuff. I mean, Keith, don't be silly. It's, it's like saying a flesh light is the practice of cutting your wife's vagina

and stuffing it in a Stanley mug. Okay, fine. But doesn't it like encourage the horrible stuff? I mean, only if you think every fantasy you've ever had was practice to enact that fantasy. For the record, I do think that. See, you think the same as Tom. You want to think the same as Tom? Gross. No. Okay, so just admit that ethically there's nothing wrong with the hyper-realistic sex

doll of a child. Love doll. Love doll. Love doll. Oh, okay. With the condition that it is not a fantasy that I think anybody should ever indulge under any circumstances at all, I guess like ethically in some weird general way, there's nothing wrong with the doll like by itself.

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I feel like I'm ready to go. Yeah didn't... Yeah, yeah. Come on. No, I tricked you guys. I knew you guys were tricking and I tricked you with the trick. Start Zencaster! How did it happen so fast? Hello and welcome to Citation needed, the podcast where we choose a subject, read a single article about it on Wikipedia and pretend we're experts because this is the internet and that's how it works now. I'm Noah.

I'm going to be leading the expedition this week, but a conspiracy theory with only one believer is just a mental illness, so I brought along a few guys to make me seem sane in comparison. First up, two men who find it awfully suspicious that no leprechauns showed up for work on 9-11, Tom and Eli. Okay, but they didn't. No? Because we had an off-site meeting that day.

Yeah, exactly. It's just, they've never explained that that's why the charms are lucky. And I feel like they should give it. Yeah, honestly. And also joining us tonight, two men who became moon hoaxers as revenge against Buzz Aldrin for endorsing Trump Cecil and he was endorsing him to get Trump to come closer so he could sock him one, you know, just give him one. Yeah. And rocket fuel doesn't burn that one. You know, just give him one. Right? Yeah. And rocket fuel doesn't burn that hot.

I don't think that's ours. And before we get to the point, I want to remind our listeners how much more profitable it would be for us to just be entirely full of shit. If you'd like to learn how to keep us on the side of truth and justice, be sure to stick around to the end of this show. And with that out of the way, tell us, Cecil, what person plays, think, concept, phenomenon or event? What we'll be talking

about today. Today we're going to be talking about pizza gate. And Eli, you stared at this Wikipedia article with a freeway accident level of morbid fascination. Are you ready to tell us what stared back? Yeah, the horrors, no illusions, the horrors. So what was slash is Pizza Gate? So I've covered quite a few gates on our little program. If Gamergate was the trial balloon for white supremacy invading online communities and Elevator Gates was misogynists applying those same techniques to atheist fandom, Pizza Gate is the natural next step. Because if it turns out we can harass people over lies about

online gaming journalism and politely asking not to be hit on in an elevator, then why bother tying yourself to reality at all? Pizzagate asks, what if a campaign of harassment and slander was based on literally nothing? What if you could whip that nothing into a furor so substantial it would change the course of a presidential election, give rise to a whole new conspiracy cult, and send one of its believers into a pizza parlor with a machine gun looking for a basement that never existed. Pizza gate isn't just another consequence of the destruction of the truth by the

internet. It's the culmination of those consequences, at least so far. And it all begins with Anthony's wiener. Yeah, that's the hot dog stand next to Comet Pizza, an unhappy neighbor with a dastardly plan. Okay, the fact that Anthony Wiener never officially dubbed his campaign surrogates the fluffers is proof that he was never really a man of the people. Exactly. Was an act. Yes. Anthony David Wiener is an American former politician who served as the US representative for New York's 9th congressional district from

1999 until 2011 that's the one Heath and I lived in That's true I was actually a really big fan at the time. I thought he would be It was unrelated why I said Well, you were a fan for a reason, no illusions. A member of the Democratic Party, he consistently carried the district with at least 60% of the vote. Weiner received a 100% rating from the NARAL Pro-Choice America in 2003 and a 0% rating

from the National Rights to Life Committee. He created the bipartisan Congressional Middle Class Caucus, received an A on the Drum Major Institute's 2005 Congressional Scorecard on the middle class issues, and he loved sending pictures of his dingle-dangle to women on the internet. I will never understand that. Even when the dick pic is being asked for, why would you do that? The best ones look like an evil alien sandworm. It's terrifying with like a sloppy neck waddle next to the sandworm.

You're telling us so much about your dick that you don't think you're telling us. Mine's not one of the best ones. Mine's one of the best ones. I know by the way that the Drum Major Institute was founded by MLK Jr. but all I ever imagined is a bunch of guys in marching band uniforms sitting around a table mulling things over and like casually spinning drumsticks in their fingers while they do it. In 2011, Weiner would admit to exchanging explicit photos and messages with six women. And while at the time there was a lot of hand waving by his defenders about the supposedly

mutual nature of those exchanges, when he got caught sexting a 15-year-old girl in 2016, the FBI got involved. He would plead guilty to a single charge of transferring obscene material to a minor and serve 18 months in prison But it was the investigation of that crime that gave birth to Pizzagate with a huge Helping hand from then FBI director James Comey transferring obscene material to a minor sounds like a tax Deduction box on an IRS form he showed his dick to a kid man. Thank you Cecil this isn't a fucking Beetlejuice play keep it in your pants, man

See while wiener was being investigated the presidential candidate Hillary Clinton was going through a controversy of her own I'm talking of course about her emails. What about in a post? of course, about her emails. Yes, what about her emails? In a post-Donald Trump leaving the nuclear codes taped to a bathroom wall in Mar-a-Lago World, it's hard to imagine that we ever even pretended to care about whether or not Hillary Clinton used a private email server for official government business, but we did. And it was the alleged discovery of some of those privately sent emails during the course of this investigation that prompted then FBI Director Comey to announce an investigation

into Hillary Clinton and her campaign for mishandling national security information. An announcement that Mrs. Clinton credits with losing her the 2016 election. Yeah, I mean, definitely a factor, but it seems like a super minor thing considering all her ties to the lizard aliens who control the banks and the media. You'd think they could fix that. Right? I was really disappointed by how little power the lizards actually had that year. Yes. Yes. Because the Democrats, they are at once an all-powerful cabal of interstellar, monoatomic,

gold-hoarding, fourth-dimensional time travelers that have controlled international markets and politics for decades, but they also lost an election to a bunch of guys keeping the truck nuts industry alive and well. Right. It's November that lizards slow down, that they're cold. Do you guys think we should have changed the price of eggs using our banking stuff? Maybe, yeah. But of course, the improper use of an email server wasn't going to convince the American everyman that Hillary was unfit to be president. Sexism did that.

But you can't just say, I'm a sexist piece of shit and that's why I'm not voting for a woman. You need an excuse. A gishgallop, to muddy the waters. And luckily, a Russian spy hiding from the US government on child rape charges was all too happy to provide that mud. You see, at the same time as Anthony Weiner's computer was being rightly investigated by the FBI, the Russian propaganda website Wikileaks had released the hacked emails of Hillary's campaign chair, John Podesta. And you might be wondering to yourself,

okay, wait a second, Eli, I don't understand. How are those two things related? And they're not. They're just two things that happened in the time dimension relatively close to each other. Yes, but it allowed the right-wing fake news machine to correlate the legitimate investigation of a Democrat for sex crimes to the Hillary Clinton campaign. And that's all the space that was needed for pizza gate to form and take hold.

All right. Well, I thought this episode would have no actual child sex predators, and we're already up to two. So I need to recalibrate my humor for a second, which means it's time for some Apropos of Nothing. And as we speak, several delicious little specimens are being flown to Epstein's Island for our enjoyment. Hey, could we get some adults this time? Um, I'm sorry, Senator Smith, what? I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm like 100% in on the Evil Island.

I'm just a hundred percent in on on the evil island. I'm just Not into kids. Is there any like adult women available we could get yeah, honestly, uh I'd love an adult as well Okay, well how the hell am I just now hearing about this have you guys been wanting to fuck adults this whole time? I? Mean I do prefer Well, do you at least want to murder them and eat them? No, no, no, no, really. Yeah, I would not. So so all these years, I've just been some kind of fucking kid,

fucking and eating weirdo. And you guys, we just go, we could have been having a consensual sex with adults. I mean, you made the plans. It seemed rude to sort of object. No, yeah, well, fine. Yeah, we'll get adults. But since I've been we're all being so honest here, Chris, I hate steak houses. Every time we get together, you book a steakhouse and I just I can't stand it.

Let's get some fucking some Thai food and some sushi once in a while. Okay You guys don't like steak houses. No, I mean they guys at the very same time as O.J. Simpson, so maybe she murdered Nicole. Tell us, Eli, what happened next? Right. Well, luckily, the connections only get less relatable from there. So the second these hacked emails hit WikiLeaks, the right-wing media dives into them, looking for some form of impropriety. And to be fair, when the standard for right-wing controversy is wearing a tan suit, they had a pretty good shot. Unluckily for them, John Podesta is,

both in his private and public life, one of the most boring human beings on the planet. The emails are entirely about fundraisers, trusty lunches, and other boring aboveboard shit like that. So, the likes of Fox News and OAN, they didn't have anything. But a little reality never stopped the real center of right-wing media, barely concealed white supremacist websites from doing their thing. Making shit up.

And the shit they made up was kid fucking. The dark word they used to decide this stuff is weird. It's just a big circle that says kid fucking. Fucking the dartboard they used to decide this stuff is weird It's just a big circle it says kid fucking Weird day at the custom dartboard company A brief side note about child pornography and places like 4chan and 8chan. Thanks for joining us today everybody for Tom Eli Thanking you for hanging out with us. Now, Cecil, hear me out. By then.

This is actually relevant to the story. Eli still won't be an expert on anything. So. If you're unfamiliar with places like 4chan and 8chan, first of all, congratulations. You are the internet version of that kid who never broke a bone growing up. So for those lucky among you, edgy message boards like this

are filled with child porn. In the first part, because they have little or no moderation, and pedophiles know they can work largely untroubled as long as they aren't too open about what they're looking for or selling. Secondly, on websites whose chief purpose is posting awful edgy things, a lot of people can pretend that talking about or posting child porn is part of the bit. And that's a convenient cover if you are, in fact, just straight up posting child porn. But third, and this is why it's relevant to our story, I promise, child porn is a fantastic way to turn people into spies.

Yeah, the activation words for that winter soldier are not great. They kept Desire 17 at home coming from the Bucky Barnes. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, the other ones. All right. So is anybody else starting to think that Eli was just way too trusting when the first excuse somebody he knows could come up with was, it makes me a spy? I'll explain. I'll explain. So say you're a Russian agent and you want to turn your everyday white supremacist into a Russian agent.

Well, it's not going to work if you just tell everybody, but yes, Eli, I am. Okay, so you got on a website, 4chan or 8chan, many of which have sections dedicated to porn of young looking women, and you post some porn. Say a big collection of famous porn actresses or something like that. You then place a tracker on that folder and you wait till a few hundred people download it.

Because what those downloaders don't know is that among the big pile of files, you've placed some legitimate child pornography. So you do some IP address hunting. Do people not know about Pornhub? You can just like go to Pornhub to see whatever. There's lots of porn there. Why are you downloading folders of it? They're in Florida.

So you do some IP address hunting, a task so easy that teenagers literally do it to each other on Omegle as a prank. You find the guy who downloaded your file and you email him and let him know that if he doesn't send you a picture of his passport or put this amount of money into a Bitcoin wallet, you'll turn his information over to the FBI. And there is almost no doubt that this scheme or something like it has been done to dozens of US politicians who now operate almost exclusively as assets for the Russian government When Eli says almost no doubt the conversion rate to regular people uncertainty is actually a whole bunch I do I love that in an essay about the problems of speculation and conspiracy theories We are now just openly speculating about it

Right anybody else starting to think Eli was just way too trusting when the first excuse a politician He knows could come up with was it was hidden in a cache of legitimate porn by a Russian spy Said what I said, so you're probably wondering what does this have to do with pizza gate? Well, if you're lighting fires the way Russian agents on 4chan and 8chan were doing, it helps to have a lot of smoke to cover your tracks. And fake accusations of child abuse are excellent smoke. So they decide that all the talk of pizza, specifically cheese pizza, in John Podesta's emails were code for child pornography

Because I kid you not they start with C and P It's a searchable database you can search it right now Go through those emails. There are zero uses of the phrase cheese pizza zero times Okay, that's it. I looked into the email of both Colin Powell and Chris Pratt. It was terrifying. So post-decoding, these emails started popping up, like the one shared by the New York Times that said, quote, search for these possible double-speak keywords in WikiLeaks. Hot dog equals boy.

Pizza equals girl. Cheese equals little girl. Pasta equals little girl pasta equals little boy What ice cream equals male prostitute? Walnut equals person of color yikes map equals seem and they didn't write person of color and Sauce equals orgy. Okay, you can't just assign a new thing to cheese people need This really this is no Gouda Cheese. People need to talk about cheese over emails sometimes. It's not a coat. Cheese plates. Yeah. Really, this is no gouda.

No gouda. These are a bunch of munces. Guys, if you replace yours with I am and truly with an interdimensional lizard Jew who rapes children in Easter adrenal glands, you're not going to believe what these emails say. Exactly. Exactly. So with these decoders in place, ordinary emails took on a brand new sinister exchange. How could they not?

Take for example this exchange between Common Sense Media founder Jim Steyer and John and Mary Podesta, which says, quote, Hey, John, we know you're a true master of cuisine, and we have appreciated that for years. But walnut sauce for pasta? Mary, please tell us the straight story. Was the sauce actually very tasty?" To which John replies, it's an amazingly Gourian dish made with crushed walnuts made into a paste.

So stop being so California." End quote. I often crush people into a paste after an orgy. That's the order of operations. Exactly. It all comes together. Now, as any Russian spy will happily tell you, the great thing about spreading misinformation to Americans is that nobody, and I mean nobody, yes ends bullshit like we did. See, when your aunt Kathy grows up being told that there's a real and literal

Goat demon whose only goal is to separate her eternal soul from its reward in heaven When her bipolar disorder or opioid addiction or both kicks in later in life She is ready to find some satanic imagery whatever direction you point her in. Which brings us at last to Comet Ping Pong. See Comet Ping Pong inexplicably and for no other reason the internet could think of had a bunch of space imagery all over their website. And you know who else uses symbols like stars and moons? That's right See little children Also, also I checked the letters in comet ping-pong can be rearranged to spell

Men got topping which is literally and truly Better than any of the arguments they came up with. You're in the wrong profession, No Illusions, wrong profession. But not all symbology was that obvious. Internet sleuth used an FBI list of well-known secret pedophile symbols like triangles, hearts, and spirals only to find that commonomet Ping Pong signage also contained Shapes shapes Wow, okay fun fact Fox News has a triangle thing and an arc

logo Yeah, and the conspiracy people were saying the other businesses near Comet Ping Pong were also doing pedophile stuff saying the other businesses near Comet Ping Pong were also doing pedophile stuff. Okay, listeners, we have sort of an unofficial page minimum on these citation-needed essays. We're now in the portion of the show where Eli is trying to game that system by putting a bunch of pictures in the notes. That's what I want to! You didn't want to see the symbol for fair sense? I give and I give.

I give and I give. But wait, there's more. What if I told you that the owner of Comet Ping Pong posted a photo to Instagram of himself with two half-naked men wearing a t-shirt that read, Je Harte L'Enfant? Which for those unfamiliar with the language of love is French for I heart emoji children. Well, I'd tell you that that's not a photo of the owner of Kala Ping Pong. It's the photo of the owner of a different restaurant named, you guessed it, L'Enfant Cafe and Bar.

Which also is almost certainly a nod to the French phrase L'Enfant Tarib, which refers to someone whose ideas shock or upset norms. But since Americans pretty routinely refuse to acknowledge other cultures, and I just hear what you have. Yeah, well, it's also worth mentioning that Pierre-Charles Laenfant was the architect

that designed Washington, D.C. There are like 406 things in Washington, D.C. named after him. The I Heart Long Fun is a moderately standard tourist t-shirt in DC. Yeah. Now, I think they should still get rid of that though. It is a little rough. I mean certainly now they should.

Some of the theories of B2Gate are, say the least, far ranging. One popular post accused John and Tony Podesta of kidnapping the British toddler Madeleine McCain on May 3rd of 2007 based on a computer reconstruction of the kidnapper's faces released by police. When questioned about the kidnappings, the podesta said, look, you want to make a good walnut sauce, you got to break a few hot dogs. You know what I mean?

So there's a couple of problems with this theory. First of all, the PS1 graphics released are pretty much just guys with faces. Yeah. And secondly, the two computer images being compared to John and Tony are supposed to be of one person, not two. Also, elite pedophiles aren't going to fly to England and do their own kidnapping. It doesn't even make sense. I mean, without skin masks made of stem cells from earlier kidnapping. My favorite of these connections is a photo of Barack Obama and a child playing ping pong

at the White House. Yeah, 100% at the White House. Now that photo is still hanging in the White House and it could not more obviously be in the White House. There's a giant red carpet, and extremely recognizable archway behind them. It looks nothing like Comet Ping Pong, but unfortunately someone put a news chiron on it that says Obama had Comet Ping Pong, so you know, case closed. If you're about to fuck some kids and eat them in a secret pizza dungeon, it's kind

of weird to have a quick game of ping pong first, right? Again, just like, think it through. That wouldn't make sense. I don't know why I'm giving so many notes to these people on like how to whatever. Don't. Yeah, I totally get that. That's why pickle balls become so popular. And as we all know, pickle is pedophile code for Cuban boy of eight to 11 years old with

a lisp. So I'm just saying that if Heath ever found himself accidentally in a child fucking and eating situation he would absolutely try to delay the inevitable by playing ping-pong with them and we need to acknowledge that Obama would have done the same thing. And now I have a great alibi. Exactly. So and now I fucked it up. Damn it. Yeah exactly so with damning evidence like that in hand, pizza k became what every other conspiracy eventually becomes. That Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and every other politician

and or Jewish person who the right didn't like, were secretly killing, eating, and raping kids in the basement of Comet Ping Pong. Which, I will clarify again, does not have a basement. Now conspiracy theorists will use the fact that everything eventually becomes about killing, raping, and eating kids as a sign that there's like a kernel of truth to these things, but there's a couple problems with that. First of all, that means nothing. That was meaningless. Right, first of all, nothing. Second of all, killing, eating, and raping kids are just the worst things that people can think of. So when you're trying to villainize someone, accusing them of doing the worst thing you

can think of just kind of tracks. And three, we do know about a secret cabal of murderous child rapists. It's called the Catholic Church and nobody cares because they're nice to your grandma or something. Yeah. Notice how quickly their concern about groomers faded when Donald Trump was trying to nominate one to run the Justice Department these You might wonder during all of this how this benefits Russia But you have to remember that like gamer gate and elevator gate before it the harassment is the point

Right comment ping pong But the harassment is the point. Right? Comet Ping Pong hosted democratic fundraisers and was a place where members of Hillary's campaign liked to meet and hang out and eat pizza. But now, being spotted there proved you ate babies for their adrenochrome. So the disruption was enough. Geez. Well, these people know that when you heat adrenochrome, you denature it. You essentially get zero evil powers putting that baby on a pizza in an old 500 degree oven. That's stupid.

It's stupid. Also, adults have, I would imagine, way more adrenochrome than babies because of bigger adrenal glands. So here's the thing, if any QAnon heroes want to fight fire with fire use a grown-up adrenal gland from your like human on buddy and get a Nutrient bullet, you know And yes, but he the stuff from babies tastes better It's like it's like veal in terms of how moral it is to consume That is by the way the actual argument the people may know it is

Is that a taste? Yeah, is that a taste better? Is that a taste better? And of course, it wouldn't be American stupidity if it wasn't also dangerous and gun related. So, on December 4th, 2016, Edgar Madison Welch, a 28-year-old man from Salisbury, North Carolina, arrived at Comet Ping Pong ready to save the children. He knew they were being held inside as sex slaves, threatening several employees with a gun and firing three shots into the walls and ceiling

in the restaurant. Welch demanded to be shown to the secret basement. And after he was satisfied that it didn't exist, he surrendered bloodlessly to the police. Welch spent three years in prison for the crime and is currently free with the custody of both his children. Jesus fuck. Okay. And three years seems like a very short sentence compared to say, I don't know, the national average of 84 months for a drug conviction. I want to just reassure

everyone here. Eddie is white. Yeah. So, Yeah. It's cool. All he was doing was firing a gun in a restaurant filled with children. Children. Yeah, no big deal.

I wish I could end this essay the same way I've ended my other essays on Gates. I'd love to tell you that Pizza Gate faded to obscurity and ended up an internet joke recognizable only to the chronically online like myself. But truth is, Pizzaate has become mainstream. Its advocates are some of the most visible members of Congress, and its legacy was no small part in the attempted overthrow of our government on January 6th, which by the time you're listening to this will have been rewarded by a second, significantly more powerful presidential term.

What I'm saying is, someday, this podcast may be the only piece of media that tells you Pizzagate wasn't real. And if you had to summarize what you've learned in one sentence, what would it be? America is a bad place filled with bad people, but sometimes it's wacky too. Yeah, we're bad in an entertaining way. I want that shirt. I want that shirt. That's amazing. So are you ready for the quiz? Absolutely. Alright, Eli. Calling all scandals a something-something gate is fucking stupid. Why?

A. Watergate is one word. It wasn't a water-based scandal. B. Watergate had consequences. The bad guys lost. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

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I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. All right, Eli, what was the most reasonable moment from the entire pizza gate movement? A, when Edgar Welch saw there was no basement and he was like, well, fuck. OK, OK, time for jail, I guess. B, it's A, the pinnacle of ethics and intellectual honesty of this entire thing came from the guy who fired a gun into a crowded restaurant full of kids, but then admitted he was wrong being honest intellectually for a second. I went down a whole Edgar Welch rabbit hole when I was researching this essay because

there's one of those like, you know how they take shitty people and they'll do like a, he ain't so shitty no more. They did it with the kid with the torch at Charlottesville as well. They made one of those articles about him and reading people trying to be like, well, he was just a passionate guy with his heart on his sleeve and a tear in his eye. Fascinating. It's fascinating. The answer is A, by the way. That's correct. Doesn't make any sense.

Like you shoot the gun around the kids, the adrenaline goes out of the gland. It doesn't even make any sense. All right, Eli. Best way to search the podesta emails is through AI. What's the best AI tool to use? A, Kid Journey. B, Chat CP. C, Adrena Chrome Plugin.

Or D, Frazzle Clippy. Adrena Chrome plugin. Fent, I'm going to go with Chat CP. Oh yes, you are correct. It's Chat CP. Fantastic. Oh, you've run the board, Eli. You are this week's winner.

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Yeah, okay, you really liked it. They really did Yeah, just delicious absolutely delicious. Yeah, hey, you know I could go for some dessert What would you have in mind? I? Love to fucking kill any of the child. Oh seriously? You guys aren't just saying that. Come on! Let's do it! What? Yeah why not?

You guys are the best.