Citation Needed - The Endurance Expedition

Episode Date: February 28, 2018

The Imperial Trans-Antarctic Expedition (1914–17), also known as the Endurance Expedition, is considered the last major expedition of the Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration. Conceived by Sir Ernest Shackleton, the expedition was an attempt to make the first land crossing of the Antarcticcontinent. After the conquest of the South Pole by Roald Amundsen in 1911, this crossing remained, in Shackleton's words, the "one great main object of Antarctic journeyings".[1] The expedition failed to accomplish this objective, but became recognised instead as an epic feat of endurance. Our theme song was written and performed by Anna Bosnick. If you’d like to support the show on a per episode basis, you can find our Patreon page here.  Be sure to check our website for more details.

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and I wanted them, the sandwiches. So... You're talking about the waitress. The waitress, yes, yes, the waitress. She kept bringing food. Ah, that makes more sense. Okay Marjorie Tyrell Bosnick you get back here right now and you pull this leg Do not talk back to me young lady

That's it. You know what? No belly rubs. No belly rubs today. That's a serious Eli um is that a snow machine? You brought into the studio? Hey, yeah, yes, sorry guys This week is the endurance expedition, so you know, I think you're getting to is that is that a Sam Boni in the corner? Yeah, I wanted to have the pack ice be as realistic as possible, so okay Well, pack ice doesn't have a blue line So that's yeah, well you know match pulled me that far earlier, but we crossed for the puck so we had to come back That's a hockey joke. Yeah, we know we know I didn't write it. What does it mean? Holy shit? Is that Tom lying dead under the table over there? What the fuck? Yeah?

Yeah, I told him that in order to survive we had to reach a cache of food under there, but then he found my vegan jerky and he just killed himself right away. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, where's Noah? Oh, he was shivering so badly. So I just, you know, I just cut Tom open and just stuffed him in there to warm him up.

And I thought these things smelled bad on the outside. Hey, did you throw a whole bottle of vodka in there with him too? Amping. No. No, that was in there when I cut him open. The whole bottle? Whole bottle. Hello and welcome to Citation Needed, the podcast where we choose a subject read a single article about it on Wikipedia and pretend we're experts, because this is the internet,

and that's how it works now. I'm knowing I'm gonna be sailing this ship due south to a certain doom, but I'm not gonna be doing it all by myself. First up, the two guys make it sure we leave with all the necessary supplies of rum, heath and tom. I have a drinking problem, yeah.

The new Tesla can run on my blood if you can't find a charge. You can't find a charge. I don't really see the problem, Yeah, the new Tesla can run on my blood if you can't find a charge Don't really see the problem. I I use a handy new liver shaped storage system my rummett. It's my liver It's like a solution And of course also joining us is the guy we're gonna kill hall if he keeps mentioning is John Bonet Ramsey and the person that'll be happy to do the kill hauling Eli and Cecil. Okay, this is unfair. Cecil and Noah get to do history, Tom gets to mock the dead, he gets to start race wars.

I never get to do my thing. I don't know why everyone's, my, how is my thing race wars? How is your race thing? How is your thing race wars? It's the schlastic attack too. There you go. Piped down, puppy. I think this is a great thing though.

It combines Eli, your desire to die with my desire to kill you, so win, win, right? Yeah. Which reminds me, four are sharing a hotel room at the live show. It's not gonna happen. It has of this recording, we are only $20 away from doing. I happen.

I use a sleep app, damn machine. Oh my God. Not for medical reasons. I just like it. It's like it's something wearing a sleep app. You have a machine. It's a lazy dog. It's a breath on my own.

That's what it is. It's exhausting. I've got a lot going on. I don't want to, oh, like that. Not. I don't know. All right. So before we dive into this story, we need to take one quick second to thank our

patrons for fully funding this expedition. Without you, this packet dogs would be a lot more magey. And of course, if you'd like to learn how to join their ranks, be sure to stick around at the end of the show. And yes, we really are just 20 bucks away from doing the live show. And yes, Cecil and I really will share a hotel room. We will not together. No, certain that that is not happy. I'm just not going to tell you where I'm staying. He means like the city. I was just going to be impressed if you stayed. See, so I can see he does the show.

He just turns out his heel walks out the door. That's it. Fuck it. I'm out. See, so it's just going to parachute in like it's like a stool. All right. So with all of that out of the way, tell us, Heath, what person plays think comes up phenomenon or event?

What would be talking about today? Well, today is the first part of a two-part episode. Get excited. And today we're gonna be talking about the Imperial Transanardic Expedition, or the first part of it, commonly known as the Endurance Expedition. All right, all right.

And Cecil, are you ready to strand us in the middle of an essay so we can be rescued by Tom next week? You're gonna have to ask me twice to strand you guys in the middle of nowhere. Good, because I wasn't going to it. It was only in the script. Yes. All right, so this is the story about the crew of the endurance

and the expedition they planned to the Antarctic. And real quick, spoiler, this is not about Cecil's first time trying anal, so do not be fooled like me. It's misleading thesis statement. That's not what it's about. Okay, so the trip was led by a seasoned Antarctic adventure by the name of Ernest Shackleton. They had planned to travel through the roughest waters

in the world, land on one side of Antarctica, then traverse the entire continent using sled dogs. Uh, seriously, not about anal. What? What? Another ship was to meet them on the other side of the continent. That crew had planned to travel inland as far as they could and leave caches of food for Shackleton and the others.

Okay, I swear it's not. I looked ahead. I read. He'll get there. It's gonna stop me about asses in a second. Well, that's your problem. You can't look at the head, he did. You got a... Okay, now I'm confused.

This is about anal or head. I don't... Last mile. Why has it got to be either over? That's a rustic trombone. I'm just... I'm just going around the world and this expedition. Oh, is that what that means?

It's basically a tour of Spolongking. Both of the holes, there's an order of operations that's recommended. You can go one, two, three, you can go two, one, three, there's an order of operations that's what recommend it is. Recommended order. You can go one, two, three, you can go two, one, three, but you can't rock. There's three. Three, two, one. Three, two, one is not recommended. And there's another combination that gives you a UT.

So this trip is, was going to cost a lot of money. So they needed to find some wealthy backers. Patreon.com, forward slash, Shackleton. And Shackleton eventually found three people that gave us substantial amount of money to the project. Dudley Docker and Janet Stancom Willis gave 10,000 pounds each. And wealthy Scottish industrialists, Sir James Caird, gave 24,000 pounds each, and wealthy Scottish industrialists, Sir James cared, gave 24,000 pounds, which the article says was about 2.1 million pounds in current value.

I only tell you their names now because they named the lifeboats after them, and that's going to be very important later. Okay, hold on, because I feel like when you have to name your lifeboats, I'm guessing we don't normally do that. That's, I'm going to limit say, that's not a good sign of things to come. Meanwhile, by the way, wealthy British tycoon, boating McBoot face got fucked on the steel. A beautiful ship. It's going to have to wait a hundred years to get a boat.

So they purchase a ship and they call it the endurance. Now, Shackleton settled on his name because his family motto was, quote, So they purchase a ship and they call it the endurance. Now, Shackleton settled on his name because his family motto was, quote, buy endurance, we conquer, unquote. And after reading that, my first thought was, who the fuck has a family motto? Right? And my second thought was,

there could not be a more prophetic family motto than this. Thank you. My family's motto is one verse, one chorus, and I'm asleep. Cool. Minds is no killing yourself until the inheritance is six figures. It's enough now. Yeah. So any minute, I want to change mine. Only you can prevent forest fires just feel stupid now.

Now to keep Eli happy, I'm going to tell you a part of the story that Wikipedia states is quote, generally regarded as apocryphal. I am the virus of lies. So supposedly lies, lies, lies, lies, lies. So supposedly, so supposedly, Shackleton put an ad in the paper that said, quote, men wanted for a hazardous journey. Uh, as play low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete.

Again, safe return doubtful. Uh, Ibit, your honor. Honor and recognition in event of success. Okay, we get it. You're an ass man moving on. Just tell the story. So it's a no one's actually ever found this ad and it's, it's actually probably next

to a person from a magician that says, I am a series of masks covering something long. Okay. I shared my lonely hearts with you and confidence. So I'm going to bring it on the show. They show for that ad and it's just a turn that's a be door to door perfume sales. Like, that's even worse than described. Fuck. All right.

So, but regardless of what wording they chose, he was advertising, hey, come on a boat and don't get laid for months before probably dying. So, um, you don't know about how you work. I would do any takers. Actually, Shackleton had a ton of people submit applications. Oh, five thousand of them. Jesus. He had eventually trimmed that number down to 28 crewmen for each of the two ships, the endurance and the Aurora.

There was also someone that stowed away in Buenos Aires when their application was rejected. Shackleton was the leader of the expedition, but he didn't captain the ship. That job fell to Frank Worsley. I love that there's a stowage. It's like, hey's like, hey, you get that horrible, horrible job you applied for. Oh, no, man, but I'm going to speak on board and just like, hope it all works out. There was still a poster in North Korea. Yeah, right. You're going to say, you're going to say, the endurance sets sail for Antarctica almost a month later than they wanted.

And they didn't tell the crew the Aurora, the ship that's supposed to meet them on the other side of Antarctica. Well, the other side was that even mean it's Antarctica. That's the bottom where one side. Okay, well spoiler alert, they're going to be a lot later than a month. Wait a minute. They didn't even tell them that they were a month late. Jesus, the time to abort narrows every day. To be fair, boats are much easier to get semen out of.

So you can't just kick the hull to home. They leave an early December to travel to the Antarctic and they're traveling through the Waddell Sea. Now Wikipedia has this to say about that body of water. Quote, the Waddell Sea is according to the testimony of all who have sailed through its burg-filled waters, the most treacherous and dismal region on earth. Okay, that's only because you can't sail through Chicago. We have a river, you can't sail right through it.

I know. So little about the natural world. It's fascinating. It's fascinating, the go right. So little about the natural world. It's fascinating. It's fascinating, the things they don't know. Huge gaps. You can sail on the side of it on the lake too. You can traverse it by water. It could be an island for all I know.

I just love that Wikipedia claims according to every person who's ever sailed. I'm sure there's one sailor who's like, you know, the one dentist who doesn't recommend brushing after meals or whatever. Because one guy that's like, I've seen yours. I've seen it.

All right, so, worse place in a world that contains both Afghanistan and rural Indiana. So, how did they fail? So, by mid-December, their boat is stuck in the ice pack. It's stuck for 24 hours and then they free it. Three days after that, it stops again. And Shackleton commented on this turn of events.

He said, quote, I had been prepared for the evil conditions in the Waddell Sea, but I had hoped that the pack would be loose. Okay. What we are encountering is a fairly dense pack of a very obstinate character. Okay. It feels like you're doing it on purpose. You're just trying to do the chat about going on. I guess I love the wording. I kind of love the way people describe hardship back in the day. It's like a bit of chill in the air. It's old in Times code for the earth has become a frozen wasteland to boil all life.

You're right. Yeah. I'm really excited for my grandkids to read about how many spoons the explorers of today have. That's going to be fun. I also love how he describes the ice as having an obstinate character. And that's so fucking British of him, right? Like he's going to go out of the deck off for a whiskey and a cigar, convince it to, that clinging up to the boat is really a no one's best interest. So they fight their way through these shitty conditions and ice pack to a glacial wall.

They had considered landing on it, but Shackleton thought it was too far north and decided against it. This is a decision he is said to later regret. Yeah, that's weird because yeah, that's sweet no regrets tattoo. And that unending string of equally regrettable shit that's happened up until now. Like a entire fucking story. They almost make it to shore just north of where they had planned a land, but they get stuck in another ice flow.

This one is taking them north and west. They try to free the boat, and at one point, Shackleton sends his men out with chisels, picks, and saws, but it doesn't work. When they can't get the boat free, they cut the engine fires to save the fuel. Right, because when chisels, picks, and saws don't work, you stop shoveling. Cool. Look, if you want to do an episode about butt sex, just do it. Don't be shy. Like we can talk about butt sex. We'll do the boat trip there next week. Whatever. I want to come to the sex. Seasals in particular.

So by the end of February, they're still stuck. And it looks as if they're going to be frozen in the ice all winter. So they house all the dogs that they have off board in what they call dog loose. Oh, that's amazing. And I know that sounds adorable. And that is the only nice thing that happens to these dogs. But it's a very nice Cecil. Cecil, if you I am legend this episode, I will cut you. I just want you. And they set up camp with the boat stuck in the ice. Shackleton hopes, at the beginning of summer, they'll be free and they can take another crack at the coast. Well, fuck, if these hardened explorers

can't be bothered to power through, it seems unfair to expect us to do so. So I guess we'll take a quick break for a bit of apropos of nothing. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ A Captain! Why are we doing this again? To be bold. To be adventurer.

So the world may know the majesty of our efforts and be emboldened by our noble spirits. Uh, okay. Uh, Yarr. Yarr here what you're saying, and, uh, really, that sounds great. But like, do you expect to find anything there like anything? I expect to find myself. I expect to test my metal and put the very grits of my soul against all that nature has to offer and to stand victorious on the last great unexplored wilderness and claim it for my own. Right. Yeah.

So about that, um, you know, there's like nothing here, right? Of course I know there's nothing here. It's not very nothing I long to see to conquer the void itself. Uh, Captain Arraboa to Stoxer. No, the boat is not stuck. The ship is merely delayed from passage. A temporary setback on the boats, Captain, it's, it's, it's really, really, really stock.

Yeah, like we're stranded stranded. We're never stranded. So long as we have our dogs, faithful brave, powerful, our canine friends, she'll be the savior of us all Companion as well as worker our fates are intertwined with the noble husky pugs the noble pup Wait, what pugs? I traded the huskies for pugs sir much cuter and they take up less room. So double win We have wait Pugs, wait, pugs? Yeah, yeah, now, mad, you see, she's their leader, but she's allergic to snow, seals, hard work, breathing,

without assistance, I brought her sleep apnea machine at penguins. She does not like penguin, and her feet get cold, even in the summer so here. Oh So she's gonna need to be carried pretty much wherever we go also we have to change her sweater twice a day Or she gets this rash and it runs down the side of her tummy and if you're not careful it can get real bad Not like it dangerous bad, but just like ugly, you know that like kind of distracting like oh what's going on with that? We're going to die

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of the ice on the boat aren't that terrible either at this point. But as autumn and winter start to roll around, they realize that the situation is getting pretty bad. Getting bad. I cry when the heat in my car takes too long to warm up. I cry tears from my eyes and then they freeze. Yeah. They're a month into being stranded. And now they decide it's getting back, getting back. Where was it? I know this is a weird aside, but whenever I read these stories,

any of these kind of stories, I'm always just like, what if they just kill themselves? I know. Just kill yourself, right? In such an easy outly. We're about to hear about them using P. I. C. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E I love for you to suggest a solution to a problem that doesn't involve both suicide and PI. Just watch.

No, before I die. So the flow starts to move much quicker with the on-setter winner. The ice is piling up and it looks like they might not get the ship free until the summer. So Shackleton is thinking of trying to get to the coast in some alternative way, possibly using liferas or just marching across the pack, but they decide to wait it out. Wait it out?

That feels fucking stupid. Okay. Just like, all right, how many votes for do something? Great hands up for do something. Okay, how many votes for nothing at all? Absolutely nothing at all. Okay. Great.

Just to be clear, the plan is freeze to death our way out of this. That's what we're going with guys. We're going to freeze to death our way out of this. Okay, I think you guys are going a little too far with this end thing. It's too much. So since there's stuck for the winner, they decided to make the most of it. They spend their time racing dogs, taking long walks on the the ice pack having theatrical recitals on the ship They ration out their food and they supplement it with penguin and seal me now neither these animals knew to be afraid of humans

You could basically kill him with a boat Hey, you see this or Keith, don't be silly. It's wrong to kill a penguin or a see that they're not people. If they're from the rust belt, I think we all know that Hillary knew that. She and go talk to him. So the pack I starts to really squeeze the hell out of the boat. The captain described it as quote, being thrown to and fro like a shuttlecock a dozen times. A shuttlecock, just a bunch of guys trying to loan, doing theater, recitals and talking about throwing around their shuttlecats. It's fine. The life of a sailor.

So the pressure is so great that the hull begins to crack and leak. The wood, the hull, wood, the wood they have metal. It just went. We're two metal had been discovered. They decided to make this one. I don't want that because it's cheaper. The one that's when you want to discount this. You want to share you get you take your key out thereare, to our future. The dough rods aren't holding, sir. We need more camp rocks. So the wood hull starts splittering under the pressure, and it sounds like gunshots

when it breaks. The temperature outside the boat at this point is negative 25 Celsius. They abandon ship, take in the the lifeboats and all the supplies they can get off the boat and they set up a camp nearby and try to pump the water. Go the fuck home. Is that, is that what pump out the water means and sailor? Yeah, pumping out the water is a good idea. I would want there to be any water in the boat that's been crushed. Yeah, that would be inconvenient. It would be, oh, that's not that crushed. It would splurred out of the top.

In a geyser. They did spend several days scavenging everything they can from the ship and then they set up camp. At this point, they had traveled about 425 miles in the ice pack. So they're weighing their options and considering heading west to a long peninsula and a line of islands. Worsely at this point, things they should wait for the ice flow to take them closer to that peninsula, but Shackleton overruled them. They decide to march for before they leave, they kill all the weaker animals they have with them, including a cat named Mrs. Chippy and a puppy that the surgeon was taking care of. You didn't have to tell us these details.

I didn't, but I wanted to. And a Jew, but nobody met you. Nobody met you. No, no, no, yeah. God, I'm rooting so hard for the ice right now. So hard, I hope the ice killed. Like, I didn't realize an ice flow could be a protagonist, but there you go. That's what fucking room.

Yeah, I miss when we talked about fun stuff like the challenger explosion. From the guy who just a minute ago was perfectly fine with these people, slit their own wrist with frozen urine. Yeah. If they're from the rust belt. So they set out on October 30, but the the ice pack is not smooth and they are dragging along two large lifeboats. After three days of this horrible march across the ice, they make it two miles away.

Yeah, when you're measuring an hour's per mile, shit ain't going your way. So Shackleton abandons the march and they make camp. So since they're close to the endurance rack, some of them are back together, what they camped in the boat and, and what they abandoned when they started their march. Three days after they leave, one guy's just like, oh, shit, I forgot my coffee, reaches arm casually behind them. I got it.

No worries. Just right over here. Still warm. So on November 21st, 1915, the endurance sinks. They're stuck on the ice with as much gear as they could get off the ship and three lifeboats. Good. Fuck them.

Fuck. I hope all their dogs just like formed up like Voltron and morphed into a giant boat and just sailed away. Give them the fucking thing. I hate these people. So they stay at this camp that they dubbed ocean camp for two months. Few days before Christmas, Shackleton orders a march. Temperatures at this point are uncomfortably warm and men are trying to walk through the

ice pack and they're sinking up to their knees. Yeah, I was thinking the warmth was going to be a problem for them at this point are uncomfortably warm and men are trying to walk through the ice pack and they're sinking up to their knees. Yeah, I was thinking the warmth was going to be a problem for them at this point. So they march around seven days and they make it seven and a half miles. They call it then they just basically at that point they just call another halt. Yeah, the crew then Unpacks their tents and they set up the second ice camp called patience camp. Their supplies are running low and they have to shoot all but two packs of the dogs.

At this point, they can see the land, but they're stuck. The ice is too shitty to cross on foot. And so they have to wait several more months on the ice. I like the ever increasingly desperate camp. It's like camp ocean, camp patience, camp any minute campaigns. It's like Camp Ocean, Camp Patience, Camp Benny Minute now, Camp Doom, Camp I'm sorry, we'll be. And I love that they're right next to the land, but there's, like that must have been torture.

They're stuck out there on the ice and they can literally like see more ice. What? Why did anybody go call this trip? It's the worst. Yeah, okay. All right. Sounds bad. But to be fair, if they had made it to Antarctica, they would have seen, yeah, okay,

more ice. Yeah, we could find an Antarctica with the same everywhere you look. In early April, they had gotten about 60 miles from Paul at Island. But since they were stuck in the ice and they couldn't march across it, they couldn't make a break for it. So they had to kill the rest of the dogs at this point to add to the rations. And that's why Antarctica has all those red ferns. Yeah. For the young remembers of our audience, that's a reference to a book about why pets aren't

toys to give your grubby face turn of the century children. She's not going to get that's that book's about. And you give them a call shop. That's what you get. Yeah, because close shovels don't die defending your shitty kid who wanders into the forest. I like the second dog dies of loneliness after the first day. I didn't have to write that in at all. The second dog could have been.

I hated that. That's when I was like, I yelled at my teacher. I was like, this is a stupid book. The kid should have died. And she was like, back to the counselor's office and I was like, whatever man, I'm not getting any better. It's getting worse. By the way, most people don't know this,

but there's a similar tragic journey happening near the North Pole. But with reindeer instead of dogs, it was called the Blitzen party. Blitzen party. Blitzon. All right. So we finally have the dog genocide in the, in the rear view. I guess we can get moving now, huh?

Yeah. Well, an April 8th, 1916, they had traveled farther north than they had hoped. And the ice flows suddenly broke apart. They loaded in their three lifeboats, the Dudley Dockercker, the stand-home willess and the James cared. And they had hoped to reach deception Island. Supposedly there's a small wooden church there and they hope to tear it down and make a boat with the wood. They're packing dogs just waiting there, throwing planks of wood from the church and

who want to. You guys looking for some wood here, fetch. I just love that there's a church in the middle of fucking yard. You guys looking for some wood here fetch I just love that there's a church in the middle of fucking at article surrounded by nothing on an island called If that's not fucking perfect, I don't know what is And who the fuck put the church there? I have follow-up questions there. I have follow up questions. With a Catholic polar bear. At this point, they had spent 16 months on the ice flow. Five of these months were camping on the fucking ice. Jesus. They spend seven days, seven fucking days trying to navigate in this broken ice pack.

The temperatures at this point are around negative 20 Fahrenheit or negative 30 Celsius. They are constantly soaked with seawater. They alternate between camping on the ice and getting back in the boat. And at this point, a group of them make a break for land. The only land they can make it to is Elephant Island, which is a desolate rock with a tiny beach. Yeah, but for a bunch of brits, that's got to feel like right at home. Okay.

Sounds bad, but like one time when I was doing dishes, I got some cold dishwater splashed on me. I cried and booked a trip to Cabo. I'm too. I'm too. I got too many mean tweets. And now I shit 84 times a day. So I get it. They make it to the island on the 14th of April, but they can't land because there's this huge cliffs in a wall of glaciers. So the next day they hire Andre the giant to haul them up on a rope. I've seen this one. They had to the eastern part of the island.

They find like this narrow beach and they make land. They realize it can't stay here though because the high tide line covers the beach. So they scourced with one of the ships to find a place that they can camp and they find it seven miles away. They call this place Camp Wild after Frank Wild, the crewman who found it. How about that, Frank, huh? We'll name this place we might die after you. That's fun.

Isn't this fun? Honestly, after naming stuff, endurance and patience, I was expecting like, camp the stranger. For example. You have frostbite, you don't even have to do the handsidding. No, I'm not saying about it. You just go ahead, you're ready. Either hand out. What is with the naming shit?

Like, why bother? Are they thinking of coming back later? Like, I don't know, make sure. Why name any of these things? Right? Also, why is everything in Antarctica seven miles away from them? That's true. Gee, you're gonna sell it, Monty.

At this point, the crews in pretty bad shape. They abandoned plans to try to head and moss to the much closer deception island, because Shackleton isn't sure they're all gonna make it. They set up camp in this awful place, and they try to decide on their next move. So I'm going to leave the story here and Tom's going to take over next week to tell us about the amazing voyage of the James Caird. Spoiler alert, Tom's totally going to get picked

to be the winner of the quiz tonight. Yeah. But no dogs die in the making of the next S. They're all dead. They're all dead. Yeah, right, right, exactly. We start pre-post dog genocide, so it'll be a much easier story.

All right. So if you had to summarize what you've learned in a single sentence, what would it be, Cecil? Only bring really old dogs to Antartera. It's a camp downstate. Yeah. All right. Are you prepared to face a barrage of semi related questions from our panel? I am of an obstinate character.

So yes. Okay. I'll go first. Still about it. I wasn't really paying attention to guys walking through the snow this week. So my question is, why won't you let me do the Jean-Banet Ramsey episode? Is it, hey, the letter we got from the family's lawyer. B, the letter we got from our lawyer.

C, you're afraid of the truth or D, all of the above. I think it's E, you can't handle the truth. All right, Cecil, the hardships endured by Shackleton and his crew were worth it because Antarctica is rich and useful natural resources, such as a penguins, which are the adorable wearing little sweaters at the zoo, be leopard seals, which pose for awe-inspiring photos with underwater photographers, which could totally eat your face, but that one time they didn't see magic beans that grow a beanstalk to reach a castle in the sky full of magic and wonder. Or D, I made that last one up. There's nothing there. It's worse than Montana. I think I'm going to go with leopard seals. I love that video where the leopard seals try to feed the diver. Yeah. I'm talking about the f***ing

diver, the fish and the divers too stupid to eat. When a leopard seal gives you sushi, you eat the f***ing sushi. You know what I mean? I'm just picturing that like Cecil's really cool with leopard seals. Like turns out he is a leopard seal friend and he never mentions it because he's that cool. But like we meet it at Tom's wedding and we're all like, dude, you know Cecil knew a leopard seal and it's like, yeah, he's just like, I guess he doesn't make a big deal, I'd say you should make a big deal. It's right here. Tom mentioned he had a black friend.

Like, he's, no, I don't. That's right here. Tom mentioned he had a black friend. No, I don't. That's same. All right. So, Cecil, as bad as this all seems, this was probably the best career move possible for all of these dudes of the other employment options available to European men between 1914 and 1916, which would have been the worst. Jesus Christ. Hey, dying in World War One. That was the other option. Be getting severely mutilated in World War One. Oh, you see.

Okay, yeah. Getting previously on discovered types of mental trauma from being in World War One. Or D getting killed by their government for refusing to get killed by somebody else's government in World War One. You know, this ice is looking better or D getting killed by their government for refusing to get killed by somebody else's government in world war one You know this ice is looking better in better Secret answer E all the fucking above

All right, I got one more question this one's actually for everybody not you Cecil Does everything Cecil writes have a but sex double meeting that we've been missing this whole time. A yes, B no C but hold battle. As in court. Yeah, the bread to the line. That's why he was showing. He was about to do breeze of angle. Yeah. Now what they had to march through that line. They used to, yeah, I was thinking what they could barely get out.

Yeah, if you want to get in there, you got a flank. I'm first. You don't go straight up the middle. That's not if you want to go there twice. Now I'm trying to figure out how you flank. But from the side, Eli, from the side, from the side. Obviously. Yeah.

It's like a side mount approach the perimeter carefully. Do you watch? Do you watch M and A? All right. You know what? Your girls who who answered what the real contest in this show is the total number of Sadame jokes you managed. So he's this week's winner.

Congratulations, Ethan. So which of Tom will you pick to do next week's essay? It's going to be interesting. Tom did a whole essay on O-rings now that I'm thinking back. There was an explosion at the end of that one too. It was a happy ending. Interesting. Interesting.

I will, Tom, I picked Tom. All right. And now I'm going to toss it over to Sarah for last week's Twitter answer. And this week's Twitter question. Thanks Noah. Last week's question was, if they were making a movie about Enrique of Malacca's life, what should the tagline be?

The winner was Lacey McConnell on Twitter with this. The tagline would be, the straight of Magellan, police. This week's assignment is right a Haiku about the endurance expedition. A Haiku poem consists of three lines. The first and last lines of a Haiku have five syllables and the middle line has seven syllables. Just retweet our Facebook Share this episode with your answer for a chance to be next week's winner. Back to you Noah. Alright, thank you Sarah. Well for Cecil Eli Heathen, Tom to you, Noah. All right, thank you, Sarah.

Well, for Cecil Eli Heath and Tom, I'm Noah Thank you for hanging out with us today. We'll be back next week and by then, Tom will be an expert on something else between now and then you can hear more of Tom and Cecil over on the cognitive dissonance podcast or you can hear more of Heath Eli and myself on Skating A Thea Scott-Off Moves in the Skeptocrat.

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