Citation Needed - The KKK

Episode Date: July 29, 2020

The Ku Klux Klan (/ˌkuː klʌks ˈklæn, ˌkjuː-/),[a] commonly called the KKK or the Klan, is an American white supremacist hate group whose primary targets are African Americans, as w...ell as Jews, immigrants, leftists, homosexuals, and, until recently, Catholics.[9] The Klan has existed in three distinct eras at different points in time during the history of the United States. Each has advocated extremist reactionary positions such as white nationalism, anti-immigration and – especially in later iterations – Nordicism,[10][11] antisemitism, prohibition, homophobia, Islamophobia, anti-atheism, and anti-Catholicism. Historically, the first Klan used terrorism – both physical assault and murder – against politically active blacks and their allies in the South in the late 1860s, until it was suppressed around 1872. All three movements have called for the "purification" of American society and all are considered "right-wing extremist" organizations.[12][13][14][15] In each era, membership was secret and estimates of the total were highly exaggerated by both friends and enemies.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And then he says, Rock is just fine now. It's just wearing paper. No. Right? And then I'm just used to live with that. You got to say something, no. I'm gonna. Blue. Lives Matter. Blue. Lives Matter. What?
Starting point is 00:00:17 Okay, and I see why he skipped this week. I'll skip two. What are you doing and why do you just end all of our careers? Right? Do you know very well why I'm doing what I'm doing, two. You're right. What are you doing and why did you just end all of our careers? Right? Do you know very well why I'm doing what I'm doing, see you so far? Honestly, I'm disappointed in you. Did you know that in the year 2019, there were over two million nonviolent.
Starting point is 00:00:36 No, nope, nope, not going here. Absolutely not. Yeah, Eli, what are you fucking talking about? Also, why are you dressed like an American flag? What is it? Because I'm a patriot, Tom. Maybe you'd heard of it. If you weren't too busy masking up and destroying our history, you'd know a thing or two.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Eli, I still just don't understand what you know exactly what you did, Cecil. Jumping on the anti-cop bandwagon. Oh, this many murders, this many assault. They're humans just like you and me, Cecil. Actually, you know what? They're heroes, or as I call them, hero moons. That's not a, no.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Eli, first of all, no, but also, Cecil's essay is even about cops. He's not? No, it's about the KKK. Why would you think this was about cops? I read everything, but the title. Actually, that explains it. Okay, I know that makes it easy to get it.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Of course. Yeah, all right. They go by clops actually. Hello and welcome to Citation Needed. The podcast where we choose a subject, read a single article about it on Wikipedia and pretend we're experts. Because this is the internet, and that's how it works now. I'm Eli Bosnick and I'll be leading this charge, but I'll need the cavalry. First up, two men who provide genetic proof
Starting point is 00:02:09 that white supremacy is bullshit, every single day, Tom and Cecil. Yeah, I mean, unless it's a supreme pizza, I'm not over here doing a lot of supremacy. No kidding, right? I'm so white I only go to the doctor at the male clinic, man. And also joining us tonight. and i'm so i only go to the doctor at the male clinic and
Starting point is 00:02:27 also joining us tonight a guy who admittedly is a little nervous doing a whole episode about his next door neighbors no illusions and kidding me talking about the kkk for half an hour i can finally record an episode with my window down now as regular listeners will have noticed, heath is unable to join us tonight. Is it because we had a big, yelling fight about whether or not the KKK quote,
Starting point is 00:02:52 make some really good points and he stormed off? Oh, oh, you decide. You're not there. We hear if you give us enough money on Patreon, he'll come back. Folks who pledge on Patreon get extra mini-sodes, videos of our live shows, access to our suggestion
Starting point is 00:03:10 box, and so much more. So if you'd like to learn how to join their ranks, be sure to stick around till the end of the show. And with that out of the way, tell us Noah, what person, place, thing, concept, phenomenon, or event? We'll be talking about today. Today, we're going to be talking about the KKK. All right. And Cecil, you found the one group of larping cosplayers you can't get on board
Starting point is 00:03:31 with. I might get thruppings admittedly their dragon costumes are low efforts. So yeah. So tell us Cecil, who are the KKK? I do want to, before I start, I want to apologize because I grew up saying clue, Clark's clan with an L at the beginning and I may revert while I'm doing this. So I apologize ahead of time. If I mispronounce this radical shit bag organization, once throughout the, but if we get any, who, Clark's clan hate mail from this, I'm willing to let that issue go.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You know, I kind of feel like we'll have wasted an opportunity. So. So today I want to talk about the KKK or the KuKak's clan. I watched a couple of documentaries about this and listening to these fuckhead speak is like nails on a washboard. And well, it is tempting to think of these bigots as single brain-celled sister fuckers. It's not helpful because it misses the broad membership that the clan had in the past and their wide appeal among racists today.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah, no, some very intelligent sister fuckers were also members. And, well, no, that's because all the extra fingers and toes make some better. Well, I was not able to find the demographics of the clan in modern times. In the past, it was something of a family organization that spanned all social classes from working classes to doctors, lawyers and other professions that require a large amount of education. Calling them dumb, Yokels might feel good, but it also makes them seem less harmful. Well, unless you're in the water, because the web bingers actually give them a distinctive
Starting point is 00:05:15 vanish. And really, that's what these fucking racist dirtbags want, people to underestimate them and ammo to play the victim and claim prejudice against a white population. No, then those are fair points, but I do want to push back on the idea that doctor means, you know, you aren't stupid compared to butter. Ben Carson is a fucking doctor, okay? It's fair, but, all right, but Noah, I will bet you a pyramid full of wheat that someday
Starting point is 00:05:44 you will regret that snake. Hold pyramid full. This deep bet. Now, don't get me wrong, though. They like to find the dippiest amongst them and let them be their spoken person. Time and time again, I watch these simpletons tie themselves into knots when confronted with the simplest questions of the KKK
Starting point is 00:06:06 philosophy. What seems to be the real goal of the clan and other Pussbag, FUX-STICK racist organization cosplay spin-off groups is shifting the overton window. Pushing unacceptable racist policies farther into the mainstream conversation, thus persuading the public to accept more and more incrementally radical ideas as normal in mainstream. An example might be the teaky torch frat house sausage party that happened around statues a few years ago with all the khaki clad losers shouting Jews will not replace us.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And later that year, Tucker Carlson used replace us on Fox News talking about immigration. I wonder if there are any like KKK hipsters watching the news today, bitching about how they were white supremacists before it was. Before I get to the history of the clan, I want to point out that this country has swallowed enough racist bullshit on our past to ask birth three iterations of these worthless ship bags. The first KKK started in 1865 and lasted until about 1872. The first regurgitation was in 1915 and lasted through the end of World War II. And the present day dumpster fire started in the 50s in an opposition to civil rights.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And it's still going on today. The rising and falling of this group is like getting food poisoning and then going back for seconds and then thirds. Okay. As I like to call that Cecil, Indian buffet. And I miss it very much. Thank you. I got it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 It's right there, Cecil. You may have just found the one ring to rule them all of American history metaphors, right? That's true. That's a plug-in play shit. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's true. So let's start plug-in play shit right there. Jesus Christ, that's true. So let's start out with a history of the clan.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Eight months after the end of the Civil War, the South was still sticking its ass in a tub of water after General Sherman stomped a fucking mud hole in it. But the racist thought it might be a good idea to get together and have tea and cake. So six Confederates veterans of the very American name town, Polaski, Tennessee decided to create the clan. And oath-bound secret organization that news violence to intimidate and murder black people in the South. I may go with what you know, I guess. Work inside the box. They also terrorize carpet baggers or people from the north that move to the south
Starting point is 00:08:29 and Scallywags, who were southerners who supported the reconstruction. This is early on though, and they'd later widen their racist menu to lots of different nationalities and move on to sexual orientation bigotry as well. Wait, it's important to diversify your hate portfolio, just in case there's like a downturn in conservatory.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Yeah, exactly. The clan, of course, grew pretty quickly in the reconstruction of South. There were plenty of butt hurt racists that also got their asses kicked in the war recently, so the surge of ex-confederate soldiers swelled their ranks. They basically use the same tactics as slave patrols.
Starting point is 00:09:08 They would ride horses with masks at night and terrorize freedmen. Quote, the clan used public violence against black people and their allies as intimidation. They burned houses and attacked and killed black people, leaving their bodies on the roads. End quote. WEB Dubois is quoted as saying, quote, the kind of thing that men are afraid or ashamed to do openly and by day, they accomplish secretly masked and at night. And quote, man, good thing nobody told them all they had to do was become cops, right? Spoilers? Spoilers. The beginning of the episode now. The first grand wizard, which is the head water buffalo
Starting point is 00:09:47 or whatever, was Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forest. Confederate means he was bad at his job because he and the rest of the loser generals lost the war. Yep. The group itself was pretty unorganized. They couldn't agree on a set of questions for inductees as well as other specifics. They didn't have the dance caps yet. Instead, these fox sticks put a white bag over their
Starting point is 00:10:09 hat with the whole squad of two. Like Jason from Friday the thirties before he garbage picked the hockey mask. But then they would wear a mask and a problem. Yeah. All right. Like I said earlier, the membership in this league of completely unexplordinary gentlemen spanned all classes, farmers, laborers, professionals, and politicians. It also clearly attracted sadists, rapists, and other uses pieces of shit to join in on the pillage in Mayhem. You mean, other than the politicians. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Other than the politicians. Yeah, I should have clarified, other than the politicians. And don't let the potato sack outfit lull you into thinking these fucks were harmless. They may have looked like idiots, but they were essentially a military force. For example, in North and South Carolina, quote, in 18 months, ending in June of 1867, there were 197 murders and 548 cases of aggravated assault." Okay, sure, but what about all the KKK interactions that weren't murderous assaults?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Okay. Okay. Okay. They used this kind of violence and intimidation to suppress black voters too. In Louisiana, leading up to the presidential election of 1868, more than 2,000 people were killed or wounded. In St. Landry Parish, the KKK caused so much mayhem and instilled so much fear that of
Starting point is 00:11:33 that 1,071 registered Republicans. And this is back before the party's flipped on human rights so the Republicans here are the ones that voted for Lincoln. There were, there were that many Republicans. So over 1,000 Republicans, there was not a single Republican vote counted in the parish. They scared every opposition voter in the parish enough to check out of the political process.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Wow. Well, no, wait, are we sure that they weren't just sending a message by voting for Ye old D. Jules Stuy? No. Not one vote for the Republicans. It's like, and dear leader gets, oh, look, it's all the votes again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Nice election, America. And Alan that democracy, yeah, of course didn't limit their intimidation of politics. In the early morning hours, 50 members of the KKK surrounded a teacher's house in Alabama. The teacher was a young white lady from Illinois. She was roused it out of bed and told to dress. And then with a pistol in their hands, they persuaded her to leave. Quote, they treated her gentlemanly and quietly, but complained of the heavy school tax said she must stop teaching and go away and warned her that they never gave a second notice.
Starting point is 00:12:45 She heated the warning and she left the county and quote, it's funny. They're actually doing the reverse of that in the fall. Oh, shit. Shit. This kind of intimidation murder, arson rape and other various assaults was not actually something many of the Southern politicians wanted. Ah, the good old days. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Right. They were all worried that the North would send some more troops down and smack them around a little to get them in line. They also faced opposition from armed freedmen who patrolled their own streets in South Carolina to keep the KKK at bay. Union vets in Alabama formed an anti-KKK to combat these assholes too. Violent and key fuck terrorists. They caused such a shit show that a grand jury declared the clan a terrorist organization
Starting point is 00:13:34 in 1870. Then Congress had a committee and called several dozen witnesses to talk about the murder and mayhem caused by these racist fucks. The committee heard enough and drafted the 1871 Civil Rights Act or the Ku Klux Klan Act that allowed the president to suspend habeas corpus, which is imprisoning people without showing cause. When it was signed by President Grant, I sent troops to South Carolina and they started rounding up these scumbags and they just fucking held them for up to five years, in fact. This basically broke the clan and they slunk back under the rocks where they fucking
Starting point is 00:14:12 belonged until some asshole in 1915 thought they would be, that they'd be a good subject for a movie. All right, Cecil, don't mistake me like, I am all for the end result here, but that does seem like a bit of a rough solution, right? Like, all right, look, if you want protection from racist, we're gonna have to suspend civil rights for a while, but we're the governments, you can trust us, we're gonna totally give them back to you. You can.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, all right, all right. All right, well, if I know my history, we're about to live and not learn. So let's take a quick break for something we like to call apropos of night. Brothers, brothers, gather round, gather round. All right, guys, as grand dragon supreme, the Ku Klux Klan, the time has come for us to face the facts. This country's turned against us. Our values and ideals are villainized and we must change with the times, which is why I'm
Starting point is 00:15:16 shifting the focus of our organization from the Confederacy to the Microsoft zoom. To the what now what is that? The zoom. It was a 2006 attempt at a competitor for the Microsoft zoom. To the what now what is that? The zoom it was a 2006 attempt at a competitor for the iPad. The hold on just a second why the hell are we gonna switch to that? And excellent question, excellent question. I think you'll find the zoom has a lot in common with our current cause. It was outdated for its time, vastly unpopular, financial failure, the list goes on.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Okay, but are we still gonna like murder people and stuff? Wow, we sure are. Every apple using idiot, we can get our hands on in fact. Woo! Plus, we can deck our trucks out and zoom stickers and zoom merch with the way a zoomed shirt and put a zoom on our flag. It's gonna be great.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I don't know about all this. Ah, but I haven't gotten to the best part yet. You see, the zoom didn't get canceled until 2012, which means we have one whole year longer than the Confederacy. A whole year. That's right. The Microsoft zoom lasted one whole year longer
Starting point is 00:16:20 than the Confederacy. I mean, yeah. Hell yeah! Now let's get out there and argue that the subscription-based music service is part of the culture. Array! And we're back. When we left off, a group of pathetic racists used the Confederacy as an excuse to kill and main people.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Also Cecil was reading his citation needed us. Tell us Cecil, what happened next? Oh man. In 1915, the film The Birth of a Nation was released. This movie is essentially a hate crime that every clan member jerks off to. It's got blackface, it's got white supremacy, it depicts black guys as super sexually aggressive to white women. It has a lynching in it.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It's basically the wallpaper in David Tukes' dining room. I mean, there's a lot more to the movie and it was complex at all for the time, but it promotes the lost cause of the Confederacy, so it's garbage. It is absolutely, the lynching is by the good guys, and this movie is the fucking bane of every film buffs existence, because if you love cinematic history, you have to watch this movie. Right, right. Like it's the first movie to ever use close-ups, fade-outs, dissolves, cross-cutting, parallel edits, tracking shots. In terms of film technique, it's almost certainly the most important movie ever made,
Starting point is 00:17:47 but it is unwatchably racist. Man, very true, man. And that's unwatchable for a guy who watches Christian movies at the rate of one per week for about a year. In the movie, the clan members wear fancy new dance caps, and some of them look like narwhals or unicorns or something like that. Huge singular horns sticking straight out of a KKK helmet,
Starting point is 00:18:10 like a mutated kernel coin. Fantastic. Excellent. They also burn across and they have the same insignia for their little outfits. So it would service the new dress code for frustrated hillbillies until the present. When it was replaced by the mega hat.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah, exactly. To be entirely fair, Cecil, without any dress code, I'm not sure like, bring a clean shirt wouldn't cause problems among this crowd. So you got to specify this is the start of the second rebirth or after birth, if you will, of the plan. It gets fired back up right after the movie comes out. And yeah, it is still there to be a white supremacist garbage factory, but they expanded their sites to include Catholics and Jews and the quote, the accompanying proliferation of non-pronestant
Starting point is 00:18:59 cultural values. And quote, it sounds like something Brian Fisher would say. In about 10 years after birth of the nation, the KKK was nationwide. That's right. They were the big time now. And not just relegated to the South, the densest KKK population was in the most predictable place in the North Indiana. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:20 The lost cause of the North, if you will. To be entirely fair, Indiana is North by geographical technicality. Right. Yes. Very true. The article says that the second clan was less violent than the first and third iterations, but then goes on to say, and I quote, the clan kidnapped Alex Johnson, a black man who had it been accused of having sex with a white woman.
Starting point is 00:19:45 They burned the words KKK into his forehead and gave him a severe beating by a riverbed. The police chief and district attorney refused to prosecute, explicitly and publicly stating that they believe Johnson deserved this treatment. Encouraged by the approval of this whipping, the Dallas KKK whipped 68 people by the river bed in 1922 alone. The Dallas KKK often invited local newspaper reporters to attend their whipping so they could write a story about it in the next day's newspaper. End quote. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:17 All right, real question. Did they think there was something about the river bed that made this okay? They keep the news like, so weird time. I can't speak for the police chief, but I doubt that they were like, well, keep your beating to the riverbed and we're kosher. Fuck wait, did I say kosher? Okay, yeah, go to the riverbed. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, I hear you. That's on this. And they were also kind of fucking huge. In 1924, they had an estimated membership of 1.5 to 4 million people. This comes out to about four to 15% of the eligible population in the United States. And I'm not sure if this included the women's auxiliary. And yes, they had a women's junior racist club. They also weren't backwoods anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:00 They started to form in urban areas too. And you could see footage from the time of them parading through the streets. Yeah, no watch that shit. See if you can spot any very fine people. They were also, as an aside, just closely related to the prohibition movement and of course they were anti-immigration. Now that is some dedication to being a bigot, right? In 1924 to be anti-immigration, you basically had to get off a boat, turn to the guy behind you on that boat and be like, get the fuck off my lane. It's like running
Starting point is 00:21:33 on and just be like, not it. You're in a car right now. Call the, uh, so ridiculous. What the second clan really accomplished was immigration reform. They were at their largest and most influential when the government passed the Immigration Act in 1924. And this was the first time in history of our country that they started using quotas for immigrants. And if you look at the numbers from this law, you can see that they influenced the government to allow much greater numbers of white European nations as immigrants. This law was actually one of the major reasons we didn't accept more Jews into the country as refugees during the Holocaust. Okay, but the close-up sea. So nobody would have thought of the close-up. Well, we want to accept it more Jews in, but the ones we had
Starting point is 00:22:18 already controlled the media, the banks, the jewelry industry, Hollywood, what would they do when they got here? There's nothing to argue. Yeah. Podcast. The clan experience that's heyday in the mid 20s. The branches in the South in Alabama and Georgia really liked vlogging people. Sometimes to death because they drank or were dating someone of another race, they still had police and politicians as part of the group. So often evidence would get misplaced or nothing would happen. A clan member is the committed crimes.
Starting point is 00:22:47 They were lynching people, not as many as the previous clan, but any non-zero numbers to many. But hilariously, I guess the great depression was a nice equalizer here in the US because four million people in the mid 20s dropped out to 30,000 in the 30s. All right. Well, there's a sub-rel silver lining to the next couple of months. The clan is going to lose some members. That's going to be nice.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, they're like cutting back on expenses, dry cleaning the blood out of your sheet. This is just too expensive. It's not budget anymore. That's tough. I can't. Yeah, tough. Membership faltered a bit more. And then like herpes, they come back during the civil rights movement. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. This is a quote from a capitiate beginning in the 1950s, for instance, individual clan groups in Birmingham, Alabama began to resist social change and blacks efforts to improve their lives by bombing houses in transitional neighborhoods. White men worked in mining and steel industries with access to these materials. There were so many bombings of blacks homes in Birmingham by clan groups in the 50s that the city was nicknamed bombing
Starting point is 00:24:06 ham. Jesus. Sorry. Cecil, you must be mistaken. I actually didn't learn anything about those bombings in history class. I'm sure they weren't done by the dangerous militarized black panthers because I heard a lot about that. I remember.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So this is the third birth of the clan and it gets violent again. Where the second clan tried to rebrand as a racist anti-immigration version of the mason's, clan the third did their best to get back to their roots and become an overtly terrorist organization again. They bombed, fire bombed, murdered, lynched, intimidated, all over the South. They did what they could to injure black people and allies in response to civil rights protests and civil rights laws that politicians were trying to pass. And they were still getting away with some of this shit because they had clan members and
Starting point is 00:24:53 clan allies in high places. Yeah, you know, sometimes rebranding just means going back to what you know. The, the clan story is really the same as the story of Crystal Pepsi. It's essentially the same. Or soon, yeah. Is it a weird that you put so much of this essay in the past ten years? is really the same as the story of Crystal Pepsi. It's essentially the same. Or soon, yeah. Is it a weird that you put so much of this essay on the past 10th season?
Starting point is 00:25:09 It was like that. It's actually weird. And the weird one I was writing it like that too, no. No real weird. All right, so one notable guy, Balkon, who I'm pretty sure is one of the characters in Mike Tyson's punch out, who was a police chief in Birmingham. The story here is that there was a group of civil rights activists called the Freedom
Starting point is 00:25:27 Riders. This group would ride buses in the South where the Southern states were still enforcing the bus segregation rule that was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. So when a bus full of these Freedom Riders comes down to Birmingham, this fuckstick tells the clan, they get a free 15 minutes to whoop the ass of the freedom writers before the police would step in. And the clan did just that with pipes and bats and chains. Wow. It kind of takes the air out of the superior race argument when you need double dragon weapons
Starting point is 00:25:56 and the head start. There was a lot more resistance in the 60s though. The FBI and some government officials, they were going after them actually prosecuting them and also infiltrating them with spies and such. There was also armed black people in neighborhoods that were pushing back to. And my favorite bit from this article is the Battle of Hayes Pond. The KKK were harassing a tribe of Native Americans called the Lumbi. So they burnt some crosses in the lawns and did their regular intimidation bullshit. And one night,
Starting point is 00:26:31 between 50 and 100 clan members went out to this field to hold a Houtanani and circle jerk and burn across. And so they get there and they start their goofy ritual and 500 Lumbi men armed with whatever they could get their hands on. Rock sticks, guns, surrounded these twats. Now, the clan members, they filled their pants, probably cried some giant weepy tears and then proceeded to run away as the Lumpy rushed the stage, shot out floodlights and fired their guns into the air. And I guess that had Klanzman was so pissed pants scared. He fucking ran away and he left his wife to fend for herself. On his face.
Starting point is 00:27:08 It's amazing. It's amazing. Cancel culture. You hate to see it. You hate to see it. It's a really good letter. What are the, like, playing out like I was like, oh shit, there's more of them than there are of us.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Well, that's our thing. You're doing our thing. And I'm leaving. I'll keep my stuff. You guys are dicks for doing our thing, though. It's the clan would splinter off and reform a bunch throughout the rest of the century and after the civil rights movement. And they would continue to kill people and generally be shitty up until now. And in fact, they have a resurgence with the internet and being able to connect anonymously with other fucking losers in a giant fucking
Starting point is 00:27:45 loser social network. White nationalists have also taken this blueprint and ran with it too. So even if a group isn't directly related to the clan, they probably owe some part of their existence to them. But the webbing between their fingers freaks. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So before we stop today, I wanted to talk a bit about the code words that these dips used to be so amazing. The first is that they changed calendar to get this and I'm not making this up, a calendar with a K. I'm not. Yes. I guarantee you there were so many weepy fights
Starting point is 00:28:16 over whether a calendar was too hard to say. I wonder. I wonder. I wonder. Oh, so good. So I guess they did this so that they could share the super secret dates so when they fuck their sisters, whatever. So here are, here they are straight out of the multi meal decoder ring for the months. And I dare you not to think about this in
Starting point is 00:28:36 2020 terms for the months January, bloody, February, gloomy, March, hideous April, fearful May, furious, June alarming July, terrible, August, horrible, September, mournful, October, sorrowful, November, frightful, and December appalling. But this is, you have to remember this is a Southern organization. Clearly, those are weather forecasts. Okay. So they also had weeks and days. For weeks, wouful, weeping, wailing, wonderful and weird.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Nice. One of these things. It's not like, yeah, we're in the blue comment. Wonderful. I don't get wonderful at all. That's just one guy in the back. He's like, maybe we could spot you. Just cheer it up a little.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Just like, throw a dog a bone. You gotta throw something in here for Joe. Joe wants something. Do you want something uplifting? You gotta throw something in here for Joe. Joe wants something uplifting. You got to throw something in there for him. So then they have days too, which are dark, deadly, dismal, dull, full, desolate, dreadful, desperate. I don't know which is which, they'd ever said. Man, they really bummed out their own conversations, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:29:40 All right, so it's decided. I'll see you on the dark, wailing and sorrowful. Alright, sorry, you mean January 3rd, then. No, I just mean our lives are shitty. Oh, got it, okay. Alright. Alright. They also had hilarious fucking names
Starting point is 00:29:57 for leadership positions in the clan. No idea if these are still a thing today, but holy shit, I watched the documentary on it from the 60s and they were able to film the initiation and haven't been as seriously just a third base coach telling someone to see all of a sudden. He's like tapping on his shoulders and waving to somebody and he's like laying and playing at the best. They also have Charles Coularte narrating and he's taking each of these names so seriously.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's fucking amazing and it's fucking so funny. I think we'll try to include a link to it in the show notes. There's a guy that has to give his speech to him and he sounds like someone blowing Aaron or moonshine bottle. It is so good. I'm going to play a clip for you guys right now and a play a clip and we're going to leave it in the show because it's so amazing. It's less than a minute long.
Starting point is 00:30:40 The Clocard and two assistants report to the exalted cyclops God give us men. Men who can stand the boy down, will cock you down and threaten the better. Call all men, son of a crown, who live a little far and close to get him to have a thing. Oh, I'll drown with a dull wind breeze. The Lord for fishing in a little breeze. Mangles and stuff can cry. Low, freedom weed, wrong roads and land, waiting just to sleep. God give us men. I know I have to fucking translate it every time I go to the hallmark So here's the names of the people with positions in the clan organization The clay lift or the vice president. The cloakard or the lecturer, the clud or the template, the clagrap or the secretary, the club B,
Starting point is 00:31:56 which is the treasurer. The clod, which is the conductor, the clargo, which is the interguard, the collector, which is the outer guard, and then Night Hawks or the courier. I have no idea why they didn't just go with courier. Like, what's up? It's wrong with you, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Maybe so fucking weird, like, okay, great. Welcome to our hate club. Here is your super weird emo, Klingon and Nigma machine. And here is your super weird emo, Klingon and Nigma machine. You're gonna need this a lot more than you might. Just hang on, it's fucking essential. Oh man, and you don't have to watch the whole documentary. If you just go to about 1935,
Starting point is 00:32:38 they filmed the initiation rights and it's the funniest she's ever seen with the most absurd shit. So I wanna end today and say a couple of things. First, it's easy to look over at a bunch of overt racists and point and say, see, there's your problem. And a lot of ways the KKK and other racist groups are a scapegoat for all racism in our country. Share their shitty and evil, but in some ways they give the rest of the racist structures in our country a pass.
Starting point is 00:33:05 We spend our time focusing on them and never really address the real issues of systemic racism. It's also not enough to just be non-racist. We need to be anti-racist. We need to root out problems of racism and systems and the systems of racism in our culture and eradicate them. And this isn't a one time thing. You don't just just off your hands and declare it's done. It's an ongoing process where you need to constantly examine yourself and society and then act.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Yes, absolutely. Well said, man. I mean, think about with the audience that we have with this show, if we all work together, we could literally replace all the unite, the right guys with juice. Right? I'm not saying that's the place to start moving, good place to start. the right guys with juice. Yeah, that is great advice, Cecil. So I've actually been collecting one person from every race to keep it my side so I can yell, is this racist to that? Their answer is always yes. It's yes.
Starting point is 00:34:00 They just hold up the card. They just hold up that card. Tom says yes. They just follow you around with that. All right, Cecil, are you ready for the quiz? I am ready for the quiz by Clow card friends. Tell me what's going on. Okay, so I got a good one for you here. What kind of music do they play at Ku Klux Klan rallies? a lack of rhythm and blues. That's great. B, plantanas, C, KKK pop. Obviously, or D, a tonal discordance as any other music would acknowledge the outsized
Starting point is 00:34:39 African American contribution to our culture. You know, I love them all. They're very good, but I got to say KKK pop is my absolute. That is correct. That is correct. Actually, they were okay with Koreans. Strange. All right. So as you pointed out in 2020, the KKK had its heyday in the mid 20s. So, hey, we're not quite at the zenith folks. Oh God, be second verse, same as the first Jesus Christ. We're see flatten the curve. Let me tell you, we're going to flatten this curve. It's see, it's gotta be so, so, so, all right, Cecil, in 2006, the FBI put out an extensive report on the deep white supremacist infiltration of law enforcement. What did our
Starting point is 00:35:34 government do? A, nothing. That's a strong contender. Strong contender. Be, increase the budgets and militarization of the police force. All of the sudden just got that's what now see joined the fucking KKK. Apparently, all of the above. Oh, I think burn grants were in place before 2006. I'm going to go with a nothing. Yeah, that is correct. So you win. It's you win none of us stumped you.
Starting point is 00:36:03 No, none of us won. None of us won, Eli. We didn't win. But I'm gonna choose Noah next week, so Noah's gonna... All right. All right, so I'll keep all of these upbeat subjects going. We'll keep you guys in the corner of the line.
Starting point is 00:36:16 All right, well for Tom, Noah, and Cecil, I'm Eli Bosnick. Thank you for hanging out with us today. We'll be back next week, and by then, Noah will be an expert on something else. If you know, then you can listen to Heath's rebuttal episode on his... ...for a new podcast! ...needed citations! Ha! ...in your Tom and Cecil over at Cognitive Disnance and Noah Heath and myself on the skating
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Starting point is 00:37:12 We'll not play with us. Hold on, hold on. I thought we was in favor of the Zoo. Oh shit, that's right. It's a good chant though. We shouldn't throw the chant in his. I like the chant. Maybe bath water.
Starting point is 00:37:19 We shouldn't throw the chance. I like the chance. Baby bathwater.

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