He Should Die. Should We Watch It? | Negligent Discharge Friday | 10.16.26
00:01Okay, got the red smoke.So the smoke, I'm looking at danger close now.All right, what?All right, we're recording.Yes, he's there.God, we've done this enough times.On these shows, you get to run it.I know, but usually you say something beforehand
00:39and you were looking at me like you were about to ask me a question.Oh, well, I know you're getting ready to go on an international trip.So regale us with what you have planned because by the time this comes out,we're doing this on Monday.Yes.You leave Wednesday.So by the time this comes out on Friday,I mean, maybe somebody internationally can stalk you.
00:57Regal us of the tales of where you're going.What do you have planned?Madrid, Sevia,then Centra, which is a town in Portugal.Okay.And then New York, which is where my buddy lives.So you're starting Spain, Portugal, New York?Yes.
01:18Okay.Yeah, I'm going there.I'm going to make my way back and stopping in New York on the way back.City or just state?City, yeah.Okay.Yep.How long are you going to be in Spain?
01:28A week.Portugal week.New York week.And you're going for a wedding, correct?Yeah.In Portugal there's a wedding, yes.Yes.Are the people from Portugal?
01:38Nope.They are from here, actually.They're from Montana getting married in Portugal.Yeah.Yeah.An asshole.Yeah, it's a jaunt for sure.A jaunt?
01:49Do you sit down planning your wedding and you go, let's figure out a way to make sure almost nobody can logistically or economically attend this?Who is this person getting married?I'm not sure.It's my cousin, actually.So I'm not sure what the thought process was.But yeah, they chose Portugal.Are you wearing a suit?Yes.
02:09As they are getting ready to get married, can you let them know?Like, not during the ceremony or anything.Like, this isn't pressing.But just say, hey, the guy I work with Andy, he has a gift that he wanted me to get.give to you. And I want you to reach into your jacket and bring out your middle finger.Dude, that would be sick.Fuck you.Oh, wow.
02:26You're not even going to the wedding and you're pretty fired up about it.I'm pissed.I can tell.He's really trying to limit the amount of joy and excitement and celebration that other people can have.Wow.Yeah.Gatekeeper.He's gatekeeping his own wedding.
02:44Yeah.Are they going to honeymoon in Antarctica?Where nobody.That would beI'm not sure how I would feel aboutAntarctic honeymoonIt could be a little boringI might come back with a pregnant wife
02:58Yeah I mean I feel like there's not much else to do thereSun never goes downYeahWell actually I take that backIt depends on the time of year you goYou know there's no insects in AntarcticaI don't think I knew thatBut I guess it makes sense
03:10YeahAnd the penguins and all theObviously the marine life is all by the exteriorWhen we went thereWe were on the Union Glacierfor the triple seven,there are no insects whatsoeverand no wildlife.
03:22And so if you want to seethis awesome emperor penguins,which I totally do,man, they'd have to be real lostto end up where we were.Yeah, because they,how far inland was Union Glacier.Like a lot.
03:34Yeah.You know what there wasn't though?Ice wall.Man, yeah, that's a popular theory.Have you seen the YouTube videowhere the flat earthers went down thereto debunk?the round earth
03:4724 hoursthing.What are we going to call it?Principle, philosophy theoryand insteadgot shown that exactlywhat they had been toldforever was actually true.
03:59And honestly,props to some of themthat said,okay,we were wrong.But some of themdid not do that.Thoughts on those that didn't say
04:06that and then tried todouble down on their science.That's an interesting,it's an interesting mindsetto havebecause it's very obvious at that pointthat you've already chosen an outcome.It highlights something important.
04:22And I say this all the time.The depth of your belief,although I can 100% respect it,doesn't equate to the validity.Yeah, to how true it is.If you are willing tochips in on flat earth,I get it, live your life however you want to.
04:43But just because you believe it,doesn't mean that it's true.And I think that's important for people to remember.It's important for me to remember.It's important for everybody to remember.Just because you're passionate about something doesn't mean that it's trueor that others will be equally as passionate about the things that lie to fire under your ass.Yes.
05:01Yeah.Have you heard the theory that flat earth was distributed by the CIA to make other conspiracy theories look stupid?Hit me with that one more time?So flat earth.Okay.The flat earth conspiracy.Yes.Was distributed by the CIA initially as a way to try and make other conspiracy theories look stupid and fake.
05:24I can see that a little bit because it dovetails in with what I believe is essentially been proven to be pretty demonstrable at this point.The early on UFO stuff, it was a directed push to make those people seem crazy to discredit the things that they were saying.Right.And which to me is a classic information operation.So that surprises me not whatsoever.Yeah.I mean, it makes sense.I mean, you see a secret government project.
05:51Yeah.And they somehow feed you backdoor information of like, oh, it was an alien.And so you look insane when you say something about it.Hey, man.Some people like to get their info from the back door.You know what I mean?Yeah, okay.I do.
06:09I think I know what you're getting at.You know what I mean.I do know what you mean.Yes.I do know what you mean.Have you ever watched any flat earth documentaries about the societies, not necessarily the concept themselves?I've watched behind the curve.Is that what it's called?
06:26I'm sure it's one of them.Yeah.And it's...Is that where they do an experiment at the end to try to prove that the earth is flat with the light?The three-hole experiment?Yeah.And it kind of shows that there's curvature.Yeah.
06:38And the last line is one of the guys going, huh, that's interesting.and it just ends.It's pretty funny.That's tough.If you get challengedon one of your core beliefs,and again,I'm not here to tell people
06:48what their core beliefs should be,but I do understand,especially if your personalityis tied to that,or you have a place in that communityor you started the community,whatever it may be.Yeah.
06:57And you are challenged on that core belief.I get it, man.Yeah.I mean...I think sometimes it's just easierto double downthan deal with the perhapsrebuilding of who you think you are
07:07because that core belief has been shot.Well, and actually do the workof looking atpeople who are experts in the fieldand looking at what they are sayingas opposed to holding an ideathat you've held for years.It's also tough to sit there and ask yourself
07:22how, if you find a beliefor you've been tricked or fooledand I think sometimes, you know,they talk about financial scamsand they'll throw monetary figures at that.But that's reported.The vast majority of peoplewho get scammed don't end up talking about it
07:40because it's probably embarrassing to that but I mean who everybody is capable of being tricked orscared everybody everybody I shouldn't use hyperbolic terms like that most people would tell you ohthat would never happen to me well maybe you just haven't had the complexity or somebody hasn'ttugged on your heartstrings the correct way whatever it may be there shouldn't be any shameassociated with it there shouldn't be any embarrassment because I think we are all susceptiblemaybe not to the same things but there is something out there that could get you yeahThe point being, it's easier to shut up than to sit there and ask yourself a question,how did I get this wrong?
08:20Yeah.How did I fall for this?How did I get tricked?How did I get fooled?I've been fooled in my life before, not from a scam, but from people.Yeah, for sure.Thinking that they were, or they were showing me something and I fell for it.And later on, that is a tough one, especially when you think that you have a solid ability
08:36to gauge somebody's character.Yeah.And then a few years down the road, you're sitting there like, what the hell?Yeah.Just happened.Yeah.Well, I feel like the people that are the most adept at fooling people are naturally going to be the ones that you think are the good people.One more time with that, you think the people that are the best at fooling others are the ones that you would naturally think are good people.
09:02Yeah.Because they're so good at hiding their true identity that it's like they slide right in without you suspecting.And then it's like, oh, I got fooled.And it's like, well, yeah, you would be fooled.by the really good ones.They're oftentimes very charismaticand if you think about it,they're a mirror.
09:19They feed them back.Yeah, they just like what you like.Correct.And that's,it's enticing.And it may be even intoxicating to a degreeto have somebody who parrots.Oh, that is a good idea.
09:31Oh, I totally want to do that.You know, that.A sycophant.Yeah, I get it.Dangerous.Yeah.Very dangerous.All right.
09:40I don't know how we got onto that topic.What are you going to do in New York?Um, not sure yet.I mean, just hanging out with my buddy, but probably go and do a lot of the New York stuff, you know.What does that mean?Um, I don't know, Empire State Building, even though I've already been there, but.Would you jump off that if they'd let you?No.
09:58Obviously with a parachute, I'm not talking about you being suicidal, but no.I, um, I, when I went up there the last time, I, my stomach dropped a little, but I couldn't look over.Yeah.Well, I'm not a big heights person in general.All I can think about when I'm up there is I just want to send it right off one of the eagles.Yeah.I could see that.Yeah.
10:14That makes sense to me.Minimum triple backflip.Just run, lay out.I think you could get a lot more than three.Take it easy.All right.You need to have level,like maintain some level of control, right?
10:25You're at a 10 right now.I need you at a three.Just say it.No,like a nice layout gainer,just kick your hips forwardand let it rotate a few times.And then,
10:34yeah,I think you probably.Okay,but here's,because it's,you know,it's pretty packed in tight with all the buildings.Yeah.
10:40How realistic would it be to actually parachute down?Like,much control do you have to not hit a building? A tremendous amount. Do you? Assuming that your parachuteopens on heading without line twists and you don't immediately start by impacting a piece of glassreally, really fast under canopy. If you opened on heading, meaning your parachute, it's facing thesame heading as your head. And it's best case scenario is it's perfectly in line with where yourtorso is. Yeah. You're good to go. And if it doesn't, does that mean you rotate like to where it's going?Yeah. So the canopy, let's say it looks like a rectangle. The front of it is going to go in the direction that
11:12the nose is looking for. So a little bit off, not that big of a deal. A 180, if you're close tosomething, you better have some pretty good performance. That's why you practice stuff, though.You can do, there's times when you need to use your toggles, which deforms just the steering panelsin the back that goes up via lines and has usually somewhere between four to six connection points,or you can do the risers, which deforms the entire, your canopy flies differently, though.One of those will make you really, really sink. Another one you can fly backwards.Interesting. So today's episode is brought to you by Willie's Remedy.Before I get into this, this is a new category of sponsor for the show.
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13:22or social choices and make sure you make a good decision back to the showparachutes are meant to fly one direction is that yeah okay okay if you it's uh they're a wingThat's why the modern day parachutes are called ram air parachutes.Air is being rammed into the front.If you were to look at it from the front,it's not completely closed, but it's not completely open.So there are nine and seven and probably five,whatever cell canopies or maybe even 11.
13:51But the air goes in and it's from,if it looked like this table,if this is the nose and that's the tail,this actually isn't not that bad of a representation of that.In one of the cells,then there's cross ports,meaning that the air can come in through the nose,and then it can inflate the canopy laterally as well too.
14:09But it is designed.It can stay inflated and you can fly them backwardsby killing all of the airspeed and going backwards.They are going to be kind of, yeah, there you go.Can it be right at kind of the point of stalling outand maybe collapsing on itself?If you do that, you don't want to do it for a long.So it needs airflow going through it.
14:27To be a ram air canopy staying open.That is what it's using to pressurize itself.Okay.So yeah.The steering toggles are just they're attached to linesthey go to the back and as you pull the right one down,it deforms the right tail.So therefore the front left has more speed.
14:44So you do a right hand turn.Yeah.And they're cross-ported, like I said.You see how the nose of it is open?Yeah.So it's just the air coming in and then pushing it out.Okay.I guess on heading opening.
14:56It makes sense.Yeah.You'd be fine.Yeah.Off heading opening.And you go off at an angle so that at the,you know, you're not going directly off at another building.them you're going along the street.
15:07That would probably be a good idea.If you were to do it, would you go just a normal belly first, or would you send someacrobatics?Well, given that I've not experienced at all on skydiving, I'd probably just do a normalbelly first.How much money would you have to be offered to do it?It's not legal, so we can't, you know what I mean?First time skydiving?
15:28That's base jumping.Skydiving is out of an airplane.Oh, sorry.Yeah.First time base jumping.And so you would do what's called a PCA.a pilot shoot assist. You wouldn't have to do anything other than commit to and then executejumping off. So the pilot shoot is attached to a fabric bridle, which is going to be connected
15:45to the back of the rammer. So it deploys automatically. Yes, but you still have to climb over,scale the fence. Actually, you know what, in this scenario, they'll open the fence for you,but you have to walk out there and jump. Get your shit together and decide to go. In this scenario,go, am I guaranteed the shoot will open correctly?Michael, you're never guaranteed anything.Okay, well, then no.First off, without great risk, there is no great reward.What is the great reward in this scenario?
16:15You'll feel like you're alive?I mean, you might feel like you are more,you might feel a tingling in your sack for the first time,Michael, as if you are just the most alive as you've ever been.A real shocker, if you will.Oh, my God.That's not worth it to you?I don't know.
16:31A lot of money.It would be a lot of money.How much?Man, probably at least 50,000.Okay.Yeah.I would pay people money to let me jump off that thing.Yeah.
16:46Don't tell Leah.She's vehement against base jumping.I have plans, though.Wait, have you, have you base jumped since?When's the last time you based jumped?Year ago.Okay.Long time.
16:54I would go down to the bridge.And if I wanted to, again, get current again with my buddy Miles Dasher, who taught me helives down in the Idaho Bridge.In Twin Falls, the Parine.Parine.Super cool.legal 24-7, 365, as long as the weather supports it.Cool packing area, actually really cool hike on the way out of there.
17:10That's where I learned.Nice.He's crazy, too.He's got probably, he's got to have close to 6,000 base jumps at this point.Damn.That's a lot.Yeah, he's one of the Red Bull Air Force guys.I could see that.
17:24Yeah.Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Red Bull, Space Force.Six branches of the DoD or Do you.Wow.That's awesome.I like how you change it to DODW because there's the DLW now.Okay.Yeah.
17:41Well, you corrected yourself.He said DOD at first.Whatever.50 grand.Yeah.That seems like a fair amount.All right.Yeah.
17:51I could do that for 50.There's always.There always has to be risk, Michael.Wouldn't you agree?Do you ever really appreciate anything in life if it comes super easy?No, I agree.Without work without risk.I agree with that.
18:07And I'm not saying you have to risk life limb or eyesight.Yeah, yeah.Right?No, I totally agree with that.Yeah.Yeah.You got to put something on the line.What's the riskiest thing you've ever done in your life?
18:17Um, I don't know.I'd have to think about that, actually.Maybe I'll get back to on that.Have you ever done anything risky in your life?Oh, yeah, for sure.I mean, our, our...Did you cross the street one time without looking both ways?Our risk profiles are vastly different.
18:35Mine is completely normal.Lee and I have this argument all the time.No.I'm like,I have the most normal risk profile of anybody that I know.What people miss.Yeah, but you know.But people miss the risk assessment that I also do.
18:50And they miss years of training, currency, and competence.That's exactly.That's what I'm saying is like your,so maybe your risk profile is similar,but your threshold is way higher, in my opinion.And that's, I think.Maybe you're a poose.I mean, yeah, I guess you could say that because I would not base jump off of the Empire State Building,
19:15but I've also never base jumped in my life.Yeah, but why not start there?Hashtag legendary.Even you would not do your first base jump off of the Empire State Building.Yes, I would.No, you would.Yes, I would.I don't think that you would.
19:30By the time I base jumped, I had already 3,500 skydives, so I knew how to control a campaign.So if you were to pitch to me, hey, yeah.Will pilot shoot assist you off the Empire State Building?What about first ever skydive?A skydive is out of an airplane.First ever parachute jump in general.Probably.Okay.
19:53So that's what I'm saying is our risk profiles are differentbecause I wouldn't do that as my first ever parachute jump.We have already covered this.There's a greater than not chance that you're a poose.Well, yeah, sure.We've been through this so many times.We know that that's the case.The answer just keeps coming back the same.
20:11When you have a theory or hypothesis, you have to test it.And I'm glad that we're basically doing science, right?We're making sure that we are testing variables to make sure that the hypothesis comes back that you are in fact a poose.We are scientists.I mean, I got a doctorate that I gave to myself.Honorary.Yes. Honorary.Yeah.
20:34From the school of life.hard knocks if you're like.Cool, man. If I was going to get a doctor from the school of life, it would be a failure.I'll tell you what.Hell yeah.All right.Okay.How about ready for our first topic?
20:51Yeah, totally, since we've determined you're not going to base jump off the Empire State Building with your buddy.No, we are not going to do that.I mean, consider it.Just put it on your list.It doesn't have to be high up?I'll consider it.And ultimately, the answer will be no.Were you in the room yet when we had Jeff?
21:06Corliss on the guy who got arrest?Yeah.Yeah.Wait, did he do that?Google Jeb Corlishandcuffed.I don't know how to Google this,but he got a cop grabbed him
21:19through the railing.He went into the Empire State Buildingin a fat suit with his base rig on underneath.The picture is amazing.The cop grabbed him and handcuffed him.He was on the other side of the fence.Okay, I've got to try and find this here.Yeah.
21:34Jeb may have a risk profile and thresholdthat exceeds any other human being that I'm aware of.But he's also incredibly calculated, you know?Well, he's also, I mean, he's done it for a lot, hasn't he?Just like, in general?For sure.16 years old.No, that's not what I was.
21:56Clearly.Okay.This is kind of, oh, here it is.Yeah, find the picture.Because I'm pretty sure it got captured of him on the other side of the bars.Is this it?Yep.Yeah, there we go.
22:15Yeah.That's awesome.Did he end up making it off?Or he got arrested before?He got arrested.Damn it.I'm pretty sure he got handcuffed through the fence, to the fence.Which I actually feel like would be more dangerous than letting, well, it's not more dangerous.
22:29But, I mean, I guess more risk or equal risk of injury.Like, he slips and then he's hanging by a handcuff, which is not known traditionally for their comfort.Yeah, that would suck.That would really suck.You could probably pull yourself up by that.But, man, I was going to say, that first.that first snap though on your wrist.Yeah.
22:44If you didn't catch it in time, that would hurt.You ever been handcuffed?No.God, you have not lived life.I've never been arrested.Can't say that I have.Really?Huh.
22:58Have you tried?Not very hard.No.That might be why.Yeah.I'm not giving anybody life advice.I'm just saying.All right, fire away.
23:06What you got?Okay.So this YouTuberI don't know how long ago this was,had an RPG blow up in his face, quite literally.So I think what he's trying to do here is demonstrate the danger of the backblast.Yes, because he has that skull.Yeah.
23:31Which, to be honest, that's really close for somebody to be looking up the old tube of the RPG 7.The backblast, I'm not going to say it's more dangerous than what comes out of the front of the RPG,but you have to think it's a tube and we'll call it a 45-degree.angle in both. That's why before you fire off a rocket, if you're by yourself, well, firstoff, if you're by somebody else, it's their job to, like, check your back blast. And if it'sin an admin setting, they yell, you know, and they'll back button, they'll tap you on your head orshoulder. But if you're by yourself, you probably are better off giving it a little looksy behindyou. Yeah. Also, don't shoot indoors, you know? Yeah. Take the old tube of an RPG 7 out of a window
24:09and just crack that thing off in your apartment. Also, don't have an RPG in your apartment.I mean, we can just have that.Yeah.Yeah.But anyways.Given the fact that he is wearing bandages before we even begin this, this is going to be rough.And in shorts.Oh, shit.
24:33Called by one.Here comes old.Oh, we're thoughts in the response.Oh, shit.What do we do?What's, what's waiting to space?Call now all one.I'll call it.
24:40I'll call it.I don't know if you can see there.Go back.Go back.Three, two, one.Shit.Called out.Here comes all this.
24:55Thoughts a new response.Oh, shit.What do we do?What's, what's green?To his face.Call now all it.I'll call it.I'll call it.
25:01Okay, hit pause.Okay.The likelihood of anybody listening to this or watching, ever encountering somebody who hasan RPG 7 that blows up in their face is low.Very low.So what I'm about to say is general and broad and has almost nothing to do with an RPG 7.The best advice I can give you to help somebody else who is having a critical incident, which this person is, is to recognize and remember that their emergency is not yours.And what I'm trying to say is, I'm not saying don't care and I'm not saying don't move quickly.
25:43Remember that they're the one who is in the emergency.You need to do the best you can to remain emotionally in control so you can be objective to help them.So moving quickly is not always the best.If you encounter this guy was clearly knocked senseless.So you're looking at this.What is one of the first things that you're probably thinking about when it comes to potential injury?Head injury, concussion, spine injury.Head injury, concussion, spine injury.
26:09So probably one of the first things that you can do while you are assessing everything else.He was already still clearly breathing is get control, see spine control to help him there.Instead of asking what is bleeding, first off, put a pair of gloves on, right?This is the classic jiu-jitsu thing.Have you ever heard somebody say,don't wash your belt because it's magic?Yes.Yeah, there's no magic in our belts.
26:29There's staff.But there is staff.And I don't believe in magic,but I do believe in skin-borne illness.Yes.So I wash my belt and my ghee all the time.Does that mean I'm not as good at j-jitsu?Probably.
26:39Do I care?No, because I'd rather not have,what is it, staffal caucus,which I guess lives on all of our skin anyway.I've had staff before.It's not fun.Yeah, it's not the best.It's some antibiotics.
26:49It's not the best.Yeah.Point is put gloves on.if you have them.You can maintain C-Spy and control,maybe as one,there was two people there.And then sweep the person's body down.
27:00It's good that they were verbalizing them.But you mean by sweep them down?You can literally run your handsover the person's bodyand you don't have to manipulate themin an incredible way,but you can run your handsand take a look at them
27:10just find out where the blood is.I'm not saying these guys did a bad job.It's great that they were on them that quickly.Calling 911 was 100%.Oh, yeah.The correct course of action.If I were to see that,my main concern would be that,
27:22ballistic nature of that. And then, you know, you can help the person out. But the best piece ofadvice I have for people is just keep, keep it together. So you can help somebody who is havingan emergency. Yeah. Very common to see people turning somebody else's emergency situation intotheir. Get all panicky. And it doesn't help. You start moving rapidly. You start doing thingsthat may potentially hurt the other person or at a minimum not be beneficial. So, all right.Let's see what else we got with this video.What do you got?See there, but like my body was already like tremoring.
27:59Oh, shit.Yeah.Oh, yeah, you can already see.I've got skinned grass right there.Yeah.Okay.I'm not sure how much more.Really to pull back?
28:12Yeah, okay.We'll get into some of this in the high speed, but I mean, you were, you're inside anexplosion for an instant and it, it throws you.There, there isn't a,a second of that that I could see on that first one where I even there was no attempt to catch myself on I'minstantaneous oh you're yeah we got like you're done but you were immediately unconscious as far as Icould tell that was nuts yeah you gonna see it again yep okay three two one dude I can't even see myhelmet leave frame oh I forgot you had a helmet on oh no oh fuck oh shit what do we do
28:53What's, what's tweeting?So, no, you want to point out while I'm thinking about it.So when people experience trauma and sort of like blunt force trauma,it's not uncommon for your body to seize up in whatever position it was in.Accurate.Something that happened to you, you can see it right here.Like, your right hand that was grasping that front handle there,I think the lesson here is don't shoot RPG seventh.
29:19Yeah.Were they trying to capture this in like an ultra high speed for one of those channels where you can see everything?going in.I think so, especially with the back blasts and the skull.Yeah.I mean, I totally get why they're doing it.And I'm, you know, tongue in cheek when I say don't shoot RPG sevens.Shooting them is awesome until it isn't.
29:37Yeah.It's just like anything else.There's always a risk of something like this happening.Risk versus reward.The odds of this happening super, super low.I totally get why they did it.I'm glad the guy's alive.Bomber, for sure.
29:49Yeah, that sucks.Yeah.Did youDid you shoot RPGs often inNoWe had them shot at usOkay I was gonna say but likeWe had laws and AT4s
30:02Yeah yeahIf the opportunity presented itselfDid you?I never shot a law or an AT4For realWe shot them a bunch in trainingThey areNot what the movies
30:16portray them to beLike a big explosionWhateverI think loststands for light anti-armor weapon.And AT-4 is an 84-millimeter projectile.It comes out at the front.Both of them in tubes.
30:27The law is like the one Arnold Schwarzenegger,where it's like,sh-ch-ding.And it pops up the aiming radical.They're both, don't give you wrong.They're both dope.I never saw a need to shoot one.Again, we shot him a bunch in training.
30:43But if you've laid out a law, an AT-4 or a javelin.I know what you're going for.Of course.Obviously.Yeah.So I shot out a lot of javelins, but no laws or AT4s for real.I've seen people carry them.I know people who have shot them.
31:02Yeah.Thankfully, RPGs, just like laws and AT4s, they don't turn, like, warehouses into gasoline-soaked fireballs.I mean, it's an explosive charge that's coming out of you.They also don't fly incredibly accurately.You'll see them, like, twisting and corking.Oh, interesting.Yeah.All right.
31:21Yeah. And that blew up on him.Yeah.To quote something that my middle son said when we were on our way hunting,you got to be careful of ponies because they kick hard.You know what I mean?For Claire, he's never been around ponies in his life.It sounds real good, though.He was trying to convince Lee and I that he was a stallion.
31:42And my response was, you're a pony at best.And he's like, well, ponies kick hard too.So the RPGs and laws at 184s.So oftentimes people can develop a flinch when it comes to shooting them because you are going to eat.That explosion is going off right next to your face.Yeah.You're going to eat that a little bit.Yeah.
31:59So at least the concussive blast.Yeah.Yeah.Yeah.Okay.Next.More of a more of a question rather than a topic.Okay.
32:11After you got shot, did you go back like, you went back and did like missions and stuff, right?I don't know if I'm saying that correctly.Did you ever have any, did you have more of a hesitation after that?Only once.Only once.Was that the first time you went back after?The first time on the first target at the first door.Yeah.
32:33You were in it like, did it just remind you of?No.I just remember saying to myself, well, we're about to see if you still got it.Yeah, yeah.And then after that you proved that you still had it, you were good.it almost seemed as if it was a little bit of a mental burden that I could put down.Yeah.So I don't even remember considering it after that point,
32:57but it was something that I thought about leading up that for sure.Interesting.Okay.I forgot to ask you.Are we happy today?Do we have happy videos, sad videos?We have some downers for sure.There's only so much happy news I can find.
33:15especially with that attitude.Yeah, I guess I wasn't really looking for it this time.This time?Yeah.Okay.So potential live streaming.Oh, man.Of the Nadal Hassan execution.
33:32Man, I just, I put a, what are you supposed to call when you put something up on X now?Is it, I say a post or a post?Oh, I don't know.Go to my Twitter, if you would.Yes.And I want to pull it up here because I think this is important, actually.Okay.Is it just the first, let's see?
34:01Like the second.Oh, yes, I see it.Okay.It starts with food for thought.Yep.So I'm going to read what I wrote.This is four sentences.One of them is very short.
34:15It ends with a colon.The other one end with question marks.And I made one statement inside of that.One statement in three questions.And what fascinates me, and the reason I put this up is I saw people going,back and forth.And before I say anything,the easiest part of this discussion
34:32that can be taken off the table immediatelyis that this guywas clearly guilty,got the death penalty,and should fucking die.Take it off the table.That is irrelevant to me.And FYI,
34:47if they're looking for volunteers,I got you.Like, not a problem.I spent 10 years in my lifetrying to remove as many of these typespeople from planet earth as humanly possible.So to me, that's not the issue.What I wrote was, food for thought, or actually let me say first, before I put this up there.
35:06I was fascinated to see the emotional response that people were having to this question.I'm not the first person to pose this by any stretch.I saw somebody else post something that was similar to this and it got me thinking.And the reason that I will ask questions like this sometimes is because I actually cansee both sides of this.And to me,I don't have a deep opinionas to whether or not
35:33it should be public or not.Like, it's not one of my core issuesthat I feel deeply about.And I can see both sides of it,so I was curiouswhere people land on this.So here's what I wrote, food for thought.What other countries publicly execute people?
35:50Question mark.Are those the countries that we want to be in the companyof? Question mark.The man should die for sure.That was the statement that I made,which is, is there.any other way to read that that he should die for sure?That's pretty clear cut.
35:59Pretty clear.Yeah.But is there a benefit to allowing him to die as the martyr that he wants to be?Because he does want to be a martyr.Didn't he state that?He already is a martyr.And one of the, I forget, he was a Green Beret who does Nick Friedas does social mediapost and he always has, that guy must have the world's largest collection of coffee cups
36:21because he's always got one that has a sassy little saying on it.Deeply appreciated.He addressed the martyrdom aspect.of this well. I'm not saying that him being killed publicly makes him a martyr.He already, and the reason why these people who have this ideology do things as publicly as possibleis that they are already becoming the martyr that they want to in the action of that.And then there's the courtroom and being found guilty and all of that for sure.What I'm saying is if you gave the man the choice, which he's completely paralyzed,
36:50so I don't think he could really do much of anything anyway.But if you were to give the person the choice, and I'm not saying we should, do you want to die?And I don't want to say privately, because that's not what I'm saying.Do you want to die in a non-public manner?Or do you want it executed?Or not executed.Do you want it to be public?My guess is that he would choose public.
37:11Why?Because a small portion of that would still be what he wants.It would be more notoriety to his cause.And that's all I'm saying.I'm not saying him being killed publicly makes him a martyr.My point is, why give the guy?anything that he wants.And also, what do we want to stand for as a country?
37:31People, it was fascinating.You know, people saying it needs to be public because it's a deterrent.I get that perspective for sure.People saying it shouldn't be public because we need to have a difference between who we are fighting and who we are.Get that perspective completely for sure.The family needs closure. Absolutely. No one's saying this person shouldn't die. And even in non-public executions, from my understanding, at least, like when the states execute people, the family has the opportunity to be there to witness it for exactly those reasons. So I, it was interesting. And it was it was the post or tweet or X, whatever it's called was a legitimate, legitimate question because to me, I get both sides. Not one of my core issues.like I said, but to see what people extrapolated from those four sentences, again, three of themending in a question mark was very interesting. And I make no judgment of anybody who take it
38:42however you want to take it. Live your life however you want, have the beliefs that you want tohave. But my question would be, why do you have such an emotional response to this question? What is itabout this question that triggers that emotional response for you.There's a guy who made a video about me specifically about this post.And the first words out of his mouth was,don't ever defend Hassan.What's his last name?Nadal, I think.
39:13Hassan Nadal.Then a picture of me from the Modern Wisdom podcast,and he's like, you never go full retard.And you did not defend at all.At all.Nothing at all.And again, what did I say?The number one thing that you can do is take, kill the dude off the table.
39:32Execute the punishment that has been levied upon him.It's not even a conversation point.How do you get from those four sentences to don't ever defend Hassan Nadal?It's an interesting take.It's an interesting take.And again, where are you getting that from?to me every mission that we did and and why I care about this is it's I find that it is essentialand prudent to consider the pros and cons of your actions before you take them every military
40:12operation I've ever been involved with we planned for even the ones that were time sensitivein nature very compressed planning cycle but the two things among many that we look at or Ishould say two things, two things among many, not the two things, but just in that process,two things that we look at among many are the most likely course of action, meaning the responsefrom our enemy, and also the most deadly course of action. What can we potentially expect?If we do this, what can we expect from fill in the blank? Now, why do we do that? What people may notrealize is that we as small operational elements don't provide our own mission approval.we have to brief up the chain of command
40:55and at a low riskmilitary operationyou might be able to get it fromlike your task unit commanderor one step above.But depending on what it is,you might have to go to that battle space commander.Depending on what it is,
41:09you might have to go to the theater commander.For things like the Osama bin Laden raidin Pakistan,that's a White House decision.You think they just trusted themto like, hey, you guys got this, right?Yeah.Thumbs up?
41:21No.Full on.And what do decision makers want to see? They want to see that you took the time to considernot only your plan, but the contingencies associated with your plan based off of what ifs.If we do this, what if they do that? It shows the approver, the person that you are asking permissionto execute this operation from, that you put in the requisite time and effort to think throughthe operation that you are briefing them.Why do they do that?
41:56Because it's dangerous.It can have consequences.Incredibly powerful downstream consequences.I don't know why anybody thinks that not considering the actions is a bad thing.Nothing in this is saying don't take the actions.I'm saying let's take a look at the pros and cons of these actions.My only hesitation around the public nature of this, and I don't know if, if I've heard it describedas being live stream, I don't know what the reality of that is.
42:32Really, the only thing that bothers me personally about this, and again, I'm not makingargument for not doing it, is it brings me back to my children's experience with Charlie Kirk.None of them went looking for that viral clip that took over social media for probably at least 24hours before the platforms got a hand on it. People watched and I had a good amount of people.Some who were standing there in the moment and some that witnessed it only online reach out to me and say,I thought I was prepared for something like this. I thought I was going to be a person of action.They're like, I froze, I can't sleep. This is haunting me. I had to have conversations with my childrenbecause again, none of them went looking for this. But once it's on the internet, you literally can't control.
43:20Yeah, it's there.like if people is like oh it should be a choice to be on a live stream i agree like yeah if you want towatch watch i mean i'm not advocating either way but the problem is it gets out of the control of thosethat would actively be seeking as soon as it happens it's going to be everywhere correct yeahand that again not arguing for it to be done or not to be done as a parent as a father after havingthat experience with my own children after having strangers reach out to me asking how do i deal withwitnessing this, seeing something like this for the first time, I thought I was prepared,I'm not prepared. That's my concern. Again, pros and cons. Let's just look at the potential
44:00consequences of our actions. And instead, you left as cuck, you pussy. I'm like,yeah. Okay. I mean, that's my biggest thing is I think the majority of people who are going towatch it are not everyday Americans because they don't want to see something like that. I thinkthe majority of people that are going to watch it are people.That goes back to what happened with my kids.They didn't want to see Charlie Kirk killed in real time.But it ended up being, I don't want to say forced upon them because they wereoptionally using those apps.
44:32But they didn't go looking for it.It found them.Yes.Well, I mean, exactly.So that's one argument against it.And the other one is I think people that are going to watch it are not, not that they'renot in like a healthy mindset.But I think they're probably people that are kind of off kilter and are.
44:49get enjoyment from seeing somebody die.And it's like, I don't know, is that what we want to put out there officially as the UnitedStates federal government say, hey, come watch this person die, even though I think the death sentenceis totally warranted in this scenario.I understand the deterred argument completely.I understand the argument we need to show strength against those who would try to do the,I get it, not arguing against that at all.I'm not saying that those things.
45:19I get that perspective completely.I also get the perspective of people saying,we shouldn't be the country.Because, I mean, the question is legitimate.What other countries publicly execute people?And you can look into the reasons for why.But I'm here to tell you, if you look into it,it's not the greatest countries in the world.
45:39Yeah, I'll just leave.You can call them what you want to,but look at the short list of countries that do that.And again, I know that there are differences in whyand what leads to them.that point, my point is what countries actually publicly execute people.Yes.And the other portion is the martyrdom.
45:55I think it will create more extremists than if you didn't live stream it.I think the martyrdom aspect has already played itself out.I agree with Nick that it doesn't, this doesn't add much to it, but I do think it could addsome.And all I would say is, why add any?Why give that motherfucker anything that he would want?Why give him anything?Yeah.
46:18Also, we can be more creative than a firing squad.I have ideas.I'm sure that you do.I'm sure you do.You know, people think that the firing squad is savage.Really?It's actually seems like a more humane way.But I have questions.
46:37I know the man's paralyzed, but can he feel anything?Because that might change.You know what I mean?You know what I mean?I mean, I know what you're saying.I don't know, you know, I don't feel what you mean in this.instance, but I know what you're saying.I didn't ask you if you feel what I mean.
46:50Yes, I know what you mean.Yes, yes.But so wild.And then the same person made a follow-up video, and it didn't watch the whole thing.And one of the timestamps was the comments agree with me.And again, this is another, this is another fascinating view into what I think can be pretty clearly considered confirmation bias.I host a YouTube channel.The people who subscribe to this channel, the vast majority of them have found their way here
47:25because they align in some way, shape, and form with you and I.Maybe not the same beliefs, but similar beliefs, philosophies, ideas on things.Not always, for sure.And of course, the things that you put out goes, it can go much farther than your inherent subscriber count.Yeah.But it starts there.So when somebody puts a piece of content up and you find that the comment section is giving you thumbs up and aligning with what it is that what you said, that shouldn't shock anyone.That is your inherent subscriber base that is there for the reasons that I just said.
48:07Confusing that with the consensus of the greater population, the greater worldview, is not wrong.but I think it might be dangerous because even in this channel, on our channel, if I only listened to the positive response or the people who are aligned with the show, I am existing in an echo chamber.And I don't mean that negatively.I'm just existing.It's just a fact.It's just a fact.And it's not a pejorative term.It can be used as one, but I'm not using it as that.
48:40It is simply a place where because of the fact, people have found you, subscribed to you, and are.interested and believe in a lot of the similar things that you do, they are going to reaffirmmore often than not the things that you are saying. And that's a great thing. I'm not saying ignorethat. You should feel good about the fact you've created a community. I think that's an amazingthing. You can have influence. You can have impact. All that stuff is great. But to think thatbecause the comment section on your own page agrees with you and confuse that with an overallconsensus and how our country feels is a dangerous thing, in my opinion. Actually, I think thatget back. It's not dangerous because it's not going to, I don't know if there's any necessarily
49:21any danger in doing that. But it is. It just creates a false sense of your reality.It could. I don't, I'm not even going to quantify where it could necessarily go. But those arethe things that I think about. My best ability to pose a question that goes to a larger audienceoutside of, say, this YouTube channel is actually things like X. Because, yes, I'm,I have some, what do they call them on their followers, whatever it may be.But on that particular platform, it seems to cross a little bit more outside of just those initial people.And I tell you what, if you look at the responses, it's, I'm not going to say it's 50-50 because I didn't go through and look it in there.But it's a lot closer to 50-50 than like 90-10.
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51:39Drinkag1.com slash cleared hot.Back to the show.I can understand and respect both sides of the fence on how they feel about them.I don't know what is the right answer there.And again, and none of that is saying don't kill the guy.We open with, let's just take that off the table to begin with.But to arrive at a place where you think it's not prudent to consider the impact of your potential actions,especially at a global level
52:13is a little bit backlinked to me.Yes.So yes.Yeah.Agreed.So I got a DM from a guy who lives in India, actually.So first off, tell me more.Well.
52:29Because this is an interesting opening.Yeah.Well, apparently there are like mass protests in India right now.Yeah.I haven't heard anything about it.He's, according to his DM, everything about it.has been suppressed by India's state media.Okay.
52:44What are they protesting about?So I actually was able to find something online about it.Youth activists.Okay.I think the biggest thing to talk about is a massive purge of 133 million people fromIndia's voter rolls.Whoa.Which obviously would make a huge difference in elections.
53:07Only if you're counting votes.Only if you're counting votes.Yeah, exactly.What, okay, scroll down, what do we got here?Yeah.I'm curious about this 133 million, the cockroach movement.What?Yeah, they, they kind of claimed that term.
53:21A student-led group called the cockroach jaunta party, CJP.I mean, I think they should work with a branding company on that a little bit.Well, you know.So they call themselves that because they actually took over that name from, it was a pejorative term coins to them.Okay.And they were like...They just leaned into it.They were like, no, that's who we are now.
53:43Yeah.Surprise, cockatag.Okay, what's going on here, though?Okay, the protest escalated dramatically after an investigation revealed that India's election commission deleted more than 130 million people from voter lists.Critics and journalists point out that the deletions have disproportionately stripped voting rights from marginalized groups, including Muslims.Okay.Are they...I know nothing about the Indian government or their election.
54:09electoral cycle. So apparently they are a democracy.Apparently the world's largest democracy.Yeah, they have a few people living there.They have, yeah, one or two.Yeah.That's about all I know from about them.I think, well, I think they're like a parliamentary democracy.So more like the UK.
54:26Yeah.Which makes sense.They were under UK rule.But.Keep scrolling down.Let's see what we got here.Okay.Key events and issues.
54:38police enacted a sweep of the capitaldetaining over 7,000 protesters.Man, that's asaving number. That's a storage problem.Yeah. Yeah. And I don't mean that todehumanize people. I mean, it's just a logistic issue.That's a lot of people, yeah.Student leaders and political activists over the weekend.
54:53Wow. At least 16 journalists were forcefully detainedwhile trying to cover the events.Media watchdogs like reporters without bordershave strongly condemned the police's action.Banning protests. New Delhi police announcedthe Jantar. I'm sorry if that's Hantar.I don't know the correct way to say.The Jantar Mantar, the capital's historic and most popular landmark for public demonstrations,
55:14is officially banned as a sanctioned protest venue.Despite the mass detentions, protest leaders who were released have vowed to seek new permits and continue their demonstrations,calling the situation a fundamental fight to defend the Indian Constitution.So here's a little bit more concise article about it.Okay.I think...Nearly a billion people in the world's biggest democracy are being asked to show documents to prove that they should keepthe right to vote. Well, what document? What are your thoughts on having an ID to be able to vote?
55:45Why is this an issue? I don't think that's a bad thing. I actually think that's okay.And, you know, the argument against it is, well, disenfranchised groups can't easily get,issue them an ID. Yeah, but then solve that. Have mobile, you know what I mean?Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just give them a problem. If you don't have a driver's license,here, you have a federal ID now. You can vote. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we could solve that issue.Is anybody truly in favor for not having secure elections?Is anybody making an argument for like, hey, we should definitely have elections that are not secure?Well, no, but that's not how opponents of that see it.
56:21They see it as disenfranchising voters.Well, first off then, let's put a program in place.Yes.That targets in a positive way, specifically those people, which their life would probably be better and maybe give them access to other additional.social services.If they had that identification,then you can vote.Then you can vote.
56:42And let's go down there and like,let's solve it.Completely agree.Yes.I think having an ID,some sort of federal idea to vote is a good idea.I think once everybody has that.Other than the disenfranchisement,
56:55what's the argument?Steelman for me,the other side of that,outside of the disenfranchised.That's the only argument I've heard against it.Okay.And so that's what I'm saying.Once we roll.
57:03I feel like that's solvable.It's very, very solvable.Yeah.Especially with the,the,the might of the U.S. government.Like you're telling me you can't hand out,you hand out absentee ballots,
57:13you hand out, you can mail people for taxes,mail them an ID, say here you go.Okay, now you can vote.Now we roll out ID required voting.I mean, I just got back from Florida.I was there for a speech.I have to, I show ID all the time for thingsthat I consider to be less consequential.
57:35Yes.And by the way,not rights to be able to do.Yeah.Yeah.So I'm for that with certain.Yeah, fix the problem.And then fix the problem first and then roll out the ID.
57:52Okay.All right.Anyways, sorry.Tangit.Nearly a billion.A billion is a lot of people.It's so many.And I don't think that's even their whole population.
58:00I'm going to see what their total population.Hold on.Let's guess.In India, what, there's what, eight billion people on earth?I think...I think they're around two.Let me see.All right.
58:10Well, your guess is too much.Oh, 1.4.Yeah.Is it?Yep.It's 1.48.Nice.Number one, most populous,
58:17roughly 17% of the global population.That's crazy.Man. Okay.Tens of millions of voters have been flagged by algorithms for deletion over anomalies in their information.Millions have appealed the deletions remain stuck in adjudication.I mean, first off, millions of people appealing.Can you even imagine the systems...Oh.
58:35the strain on the system.Yeah.And I'm not making an excuse for this.I just,I understand the logistics.It just would be a lot.Yeah.Deprived for the right to vote during close fought elections earlier this year.
58:43I mean,yeah,that's not the time to have that happen for sure.Some are removed for being dead or challenging the decision based on the fact that they'revery much alive.I can support that.Yeah.You know,
58:52if you get removed from a voting role because you're dead,but then also you're alive.That's a contradiction,I think.At the very least,a contradiction.I feel like you have strong basis and grounds to be reinstated.Yes.
59:04They're like, you're dead.And you go, no.Wait a minute.I'm also alive.Is this the afterlife?The heart of our democracy, which is the right to vote, is at great peril.Rohentan Nariman.And I apologize if I'm saying these names wrong.
59:24Yeah, it's, it sucks.Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure if this is right before.Hold on.I think, well, I think it clearly said it was during one of their close fought elections earlier this year.Friday, October 16th is their election.Yeah.So this happened, I mean, a week before then.You know, one of the arguments that I have heard over the past few cycles is the, the, the, I what to say the fallacy, but that's not the correct, the correct word that I'm looking for.
59:56The fallibility, perhaps, or the lack of security associated with the U.S. electoral system.people being able to meddle.I would think that one of the core things our government would want to focus on is secureelections in any other country that is a democracy.I mean, this is something I think, I know that there's a lot of things going on inthe world, but let's put this at the top of the list.So the people that you are asking to participate in your Democratic, I mean, like, theU.S. is a Democratic Republic, right?
01:00:28It's, yes.We use a democratic system to elect our officials.I don't like when the common narrative is that our elections are insecure.Let's solve that issue so we can take that argument off the table.Because when we lose faith in our systems, where is that going to leave us?So I will say I've looked in and not extensively, but I've watched a few videos on voter fraud.And it's exceedingly rare in the U.S.Well, it's also voter fraud has existed since the beginning.
01:00:59That is also true.Yes.Not just in the U.S., but that's going to happen.This is a map from the Heritage Foundation.Keep in mind, the Heritage Foundation is very conservative.Okay.The top state, 138 cases.Minnesota.
01:01:17Yes.Out of, you know, I don't know.I think Minnesota has maybe a million, two million people.Actually, more than that, I think.They have to.Montana has 1.1 million.Yeah, they have definitely have more than Montana.You know, we took a population decline last year.
01:01:27Really?Not crazy, but...That's probably theprobably first time in like 10 years, I bet.Definitely since COVID.Yeah.Do you know it also snowed a foot in Butte yesterday?That is not surprising.
01:01:39Butte has some crazy weather.Get some.Yeah.Yeah.All right.So the darker color shades for those listening only would beMinnesota, Illinois, North Carolina, Florida, Texas.And then honestly, after that, it's pretty...
01:01:52I mean, two cases in Montana.So we got to crack down on that.Yep.But that's the thing is,there's been a lot of claims about voter fraud recently, but...Does 138 cases mean 138 individuals, though,or are there more people rolled up in those cases?I believe, you know, I'm not sure, but I believe it means individuals.
01:02:11Well, first off, if we can admit that voter fraud has existed since the inception of voting,why not take every step like ID for people voting to secure the elections as much as possible?Yes.That, yeah, I agree.I think fear with saying we need to secure the elections is let's station people at election booths.To me, that's the opposite of securing elections.Yes, I agree.You could somebody could say that's more along the lines of intimidation.
01:02:47Like, no, let's solve the problem.If you feel like it disadvantages, disenfranchised people, solve said problem, secure elections more.Yeah.We can do this.Yes. Anyways, yeah, I told the guy I would bring this up.Okay. And so here we are.That sucks. Yeah, it's not good.Here's the thing, though. That is an issue that people in India are going to have to solve and sort for themselves.
01:03:11Yes. And they're true. I mean, the cockroaches are getting after it.They're trying for sure. They're out. I don't like anywhere is censorship.No.And as mentioned in here, you know, journalists getting told, get in the boot, you know, protesting. I don't know what.their constitution says about protesting or what rights they may have or they may not or privileges,whatever it may be. I am all about people expressing the limits of their rights right up into the lineof everything that is absolutely legal. Go for it. And actually, if you want to go past that,just accept the consequences of your decision. Again, consider the potential outcome of your
01:03:48actions before taking them. If you want to go past that line, you go past that line. But I don't want tohear you bitching about what happens afterwards. Yes. If you want to go right up to that line and thenthe government has an overreach. Let's talk about it because I'm not here for that shit.Exactly. So speaking of censorship and overreach.Yep.Man, look at you, just layering topics together today.Who is that? British police arrest Margaret Owen, 94-year-old Jewish human rights barrister?What's a barrister?
01:04:14I'm not sure what barrister means.Look it up. And Liverpool and Saudi for holding up aside, what's a barrister?Specialized lawyer in the UK, Ireland, Australia, and other Commonwealth focuses on courtroomadvocacy and presenting legal cases before a judge or jury.Hell yeah. Okay.Oh, on Facebook.Kiss off.Going to be gay.
01:04:36Going to be?Yeah.Probably inside.There's a four-unit-minute sigh.It's an offense of the Section 13 of Terry's fact-tack-out.Are you willing to hand the side over for police disposal?No.Are you willing to stop the slaying or sign?
01:04:55Hey, pause.get fucked.What, the lady?No, not the lady.Censorship.Yes.Get fucked.Yeah, she's giving them the finger.
01:05:06I mean, I can't see exactly.I'm sure genocide, so I'm going to assume this has something to do with Israel.Yes, yes.You ever heard the saying, Six and Stones?Yes.We'll break your bones, but words will never hurt you.They can emotionally hurt you for sure if you allow them to.Yes.
01:05:24If you don't like somebody's sign.Don't look at it.Or make a better one.Yeah.Or a bigger one.Make your own sign and go stand right there across from the person.You can have a discussion about it.I mean, I'm not from the UK.
01:05:37I hear about a lot of the things that are going on in the UK,from a lot of people who are from the UK saying,I'm not so sure we're trending in the right direction when it comes to this stuff.I am not a fan of censorship.I am open, though, to having my mind changed.If somebody can reach out to me and show,Show me a historical example of when censorship benefited society.I can't think of one.
01:06:07I don't think that it has been done.Yeah.Beneficial censorship.I mean, it's a trite thing to say.But if somebody has a bad idea, argue it with a better idea, with a good idea.Yeah.Right.Easier said than done.
01:06:23And most people, let's be honest, who have bad ideas and hold on to them veryvehemently, it's more of an emotional attachment, at least in my experience, than an intellectualor an objective attachment to that. So there are oftentimes things where you will encounter people,if you were to ask them, hey, is there anything that I can say that would change your mind?If they say no to that, why are you trying? Let them believe whatever they want to believe.That's one of the freedoms that I love the most about this country, right? Our independence,not only as a nation, but as individuals, to live and believe whatever it is that we want to believe.So I hate, why is Facebook like this?
01:07:01Why is it like this to us, Michael?I don't know.I hate Facebook, but this is the only websiteI can find this for the long.How did this terminate?So she got arrested.She got arrested.Yep.
01:07:09You're going to arrest a 94-year-old for a whole,just hit pause.It's fine.Like, just pause it.I mean, that sign is made with a piece of shoelace.Yep.A pen from her house and probably a cardboard Amazon boxto the other side of an Amazon box.
01:07:23And she's sitting, she's not doing anything.She's 94.She can't do anything.sign. Yeah. And apparently this goes against the... You know what he said that is offensive and it wasvia some code. It was so this is the really interesting part. Who decides what offensive is? Well,right now the government in the UK does. That is such a slippery slope. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's againstsome terrorism code. And now I'm not, you know, I'm not an expert in terrorism, but I'm notyour house saying stop the genocide, whether you believe or don't believe there's a genocide.
01:07:58I don't know how that's terrorism.Well, offensive to who?He said it was offensive via some terrorism act.To whom?I don't know.That's a good question.We should sit and think on that one.Why would that ever be offensive to somebody?
01:08:13Hold on.I'm thinking about something else.And that is how cool the term barrister is.That would be pretty dumb to be a barrister.You and I need to have some names to go with our names.Similar to bearers.Barister.Oh, man.
01:08:27Because we just call it lawyers, which I'm not one of those either, by the way.Or Esquire.That's pretty dope.Esquire.I only know that from the magazine, which I've never read.It means lawyer.Does it?Go look it up.
01:08:42Even though your top search term is going to be the magazine.It's a courtesy title placed after a lawyer's full name.Yeah.So that one's pretty dope.But Barrister is awesome.Barister is cool.But I think to what I was saying,It is a good question.
01:08:57Why would it be considered offensive to say stop the genocideand who would find that offensive?People who hold the opposite beliefor don't think it's a genocide would say that the actions are being justified.Also, when did, even if you made an offensive sign intentionally,which by the way, I don't know if it's possible to make a signthat could offend everybody on earth.I'm sure somebody out there has put more thought into this.
01:09:26this than me. Point being, there's always going to be a group of people who are not offended bywhat it is that you're saying. So when does it become a crime? Well, apparently in the UK now.As judged by whom, that's the most important part to me. Who is making the decision as to what isoffensive and what is? And for people who argue for things like this, it is generally because theyagree with the current group that is in power that is making those decisions. Shockingly, when thosegroups in power shift sometimes due to overreach and the pendulum swings the other direction,they have a real fucking problem with it.Yeah.
01:10:04Also, how can you, as a police officer, go home and say you did a good day's work after arrestinga 94-year-old woman holding a sign?I mean, just, that would be tough.For me, that I don't, that would be tough.Yeah.A tough one sitting down at the end of the night, winding down thinking.I made a difference today.Today, the streets are safer.
01:10:32Are safer.I'm essentially Batman.Yeah.Does the UK have any superheroes?Like Gotham City was in the U.S.And Superman.What does the UK have?Harry Potter?
01:10:45Biscuit Man.No, they don't.I don't know.Is that real?No, I just made that up right now.Harry Potter was a wizard.Harry PotterHarry Potter
01:10:55He's not really a superhero thoughHe's not really a superheroBut are there any UK superheroes?You know, I don't knowLet's look it upI thought you were seriousWhen you said Biscuit ManI mean I could see it
01:11:07What would isSuperbarian be?Major UK superheroes from Marvel and DCWell that'sOh British comic bookMiracle ManMiracle ManBanana Man
01:11:18Stop it right nowHold itMiracle ManAnd Banana ManOh Judge Tread is aDo you know who Judge Dredd is?Yes, I do.He's apparently a UK.
01:11:28But is he a superhero?Is he just a cop from the future?He's a cop from the future.Also, very, I don't know, that you could consider him a superhero.Okay.Dynaman apparently is comedic, but still pretty funny.Zenith, an arrogant pop star superhero.Jack Staff, an ageless British hero wielding a mystical staff in classic adventure.
01:11:56Okay, that's cool.All right.I mean, they can borrow ours.Batman can go there.Yeah, I think they should just honestly borrow ours.Soup's can head over there.Yeah.They can have the green lantern.
01:12:06Sure.Yeah.Take him.Especially the Ryan Reynolds version.He can go wear the Spanters.Yeah, I just watched a video on how bad that movie was.It was as if nobody watched it before they released it.Yeah.
01:12:17I remember watching it when I was a wee lad.And even then, I was like, man, this isn't great.Are you no longer a wee lad?Well, less wee lad now.Yeah.How long we've been at it?Oh, we're at an hour 10.Damn.
01:12:34Sorry, buddy, we have run long.Yes, we have run long.Yes.Anything else for today?Nope.When's your departure date?People have been asking me, when are you heading?Because we have Ari who's going to fill in for you.
01:12:44I'll introduce him at some point in time or actually.Oh, departure from the podcast.Yeah.And also, I feel like you should come up from time to time when you're here for a weekend and we'll record a Friday episode.I was thinking that too.I think we should do that.Yeah.I don't know.
01:12:58When are you moving to Missoula?But it's probably late December, early January.Late December is like Christmas, though.Yeah, that's why it's probably going to be more early January.Yeah, I mean, it's 90-minute drive, so it's not like it can be crazy.Yeah, exactly.All right.All right.
01:13:12So, yeah.Any closing thoughts as you begin, the first time out of the U.S.?Yeah, I can't wait to see what another country is like for the very first time.Are you going to the wedding solo?Yeah.Do you have any intention of hitting on single women there?Yeah, not really.If it happens, it happens, but I'm not super concerned about it.
01:13:36Why would I try so hard at that?I didn't say try hard.I said, do you have any intentions at all?I'm not, not immediately, but if it happens, it happens.It's like, okay, cool.It's not going to happen unless you make it happen.I don't know.It's happened before.
01:13:52Oh, I tripped and hit on a lady.You know?I mean, it's happened before, so.You've accidentally hit on somebody before?Not accidentally, but it's happened when I wasn't planning on it.So it was accidental?Yeah, I guess so.How do you accidentally hit on somebody?
01:14:07Somebody comes up and talks to me.And you just accidentally spit your game back at them?Well, no.I'm not saying talk to somebody.I'm saying hit on, do you know what hitting on somebody means?Ah, spill my coffee.To me, do you know what it means to hit on somebody?Like to go up to them for the purpose of flirting.
01:14:25Is that what you mean?I mean, you don't have to go up to them.You could just encounter them and then flirt with them, I guess.Yeah, okay.Well, yeah, I've done that.That's what I do.I don't think you do.You're going to a wedding.
01:14:40Even though it is in Portugal and I think there'll be three people there.But if there are bridesmaids there, sometimes they're single.Yeah.And if we talk, we talk.Great.See, this is the, your curious creature.Well, I just like, why would I be so concerned about that?I am not something to be concerned about it.
01:14:56I am not saying you should be overly.concerned. Are you trying to live your life as a hermit alone in your apartment in Missoula?No, it's just not something that I'm actively going out and trying to do.But if I'm not opposed to something happening, it's a very laissez-faire way to be.And honestly, it's better that way, in my opinion.That is a good description of you.Yeah.Somebody were to say, what's Michael's attitude?
01:15:20Neff from here on out?It's laissez-faire.It kind of is, honestly, for a lot of things.All right.Yeah.It's not worth worrying about you.you know.Okay.
01:15:30I think some people might disagree with you on that.I mean,I don't know.In my opinion,the harder you squeeze,the less enjoyable it is,you know?What activity are we talking about?
01:15:42Just in like,the harder you hold on to something,right,the more you worry about it.That is predicated on you having something to hold on to.I guess not literally,but like just some idea.like, oh, I'm definitely going to go out
01:15:59and I'm going to hit on 10 women tonight.It's like, dude, just...Did anybody say that?I said a singularreps.Okay, anyways, that's...Are you going to trim the beard in stash?What do we...
01:16:10Let's...Yeah, well, yeah, I'm just going to trim it up a little bit.Because it looks...It looks a little...You're going to trim it up and you can bring it just inside of the lip line?Oh, yeah, for my European tour.You piece of shit.Do you ever...
01:16:27well, have you ever grown a mustache?Yeah.I think the longest I've ever gone without getting hair cutwas like three years when I was inand then we would...I'll show you some pictures.I look like Abe Lincoln.When you shaved, when you finally shave,
01:16:41did you leave it there for just a half a second?No, I would always just take a hair clipperand just like knock everything off.Oh.And then shave.Boring.I didn't, I don't have the type of like,you know, the classic,
01:16:55I don't know why all firefighters have beers have beers.maybe it's part of their selection process, right?But they can chunk in and go like Wolverineand like you can do all these things along the way.I look like Abe Lincoln or a good dude,churning butter.You know what I mean?So it's not really.
01:17:08Amish.Yeah.I had no Wolverine aspect associated with that whatsoever.So I just would just, you know, get rid of it.Cool.All right.Well, looks like we're done.Yeah.
01:17:21All right.I am, but God, I have concerns.Thank you.
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