Clinton Jaws - Blaming Police Is A Cop Out Gabby Petito Case

Episode Date: October 1, 2021

Clinton Jaws, former cop, says do not blame the Moab City Police Department for what happened to Gabby Petito. Everyone is criticizing the police without any knowledge. Watch the Gabby Petito body c...am footage like Clinton Jaws did. If you have an opinion about Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie watch the bodycam. Clinton Jaws breaks down the bodycam involving Brian Laundrie Gabby Petito the hour 17 minute video in 30 minutes and was surprised what he found. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWxFkykJzUk32iGqzSzXNYQ/join hotline number 604-330-2512 Call it. https://www.instagram.com/clintonjaws/ https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws #moabpolice #gabbypetito #brianlaundrie

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And really, that decision has nothing to do with what happened later on. Nothing. Clinton Jaws here, Gabby Petito. Remember her? Everybody's talking about it, right, and Brian Laundry? Gabby goes missing in the summertime. They go camping together. Brian comes home without her.
Starting point is 00:00:25 They ask him, where's Gabby? And he's like, I don't know. So that's why it's become one of the biggest cases in history. piece it's weird plus she's cute that's another reason and when you see her picture you can't help but be angry i wasn't going to do a thing on this but everybody else is doing a thing i got a different angle what i'm about to do but and you probably don't like hearing that she's cute that's why there's attention on this and it's juicy the guy comes back from camping and just doesn't even talk to police just says I don't know where she is.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Plus dog the bounty hunter, he's in on this now too. So, this is my personal opinion, YouTube, okay? This is my opinion. He dead. If I had to bet the house on it, which I don't have to, but... Okay, yes, he could be a lie, but he's probably dead. This is why I'm doing the video.
Starting point is 00:01:31 This is what bugs me about it. I feel bad for the police. I feel bad for the police. police because everywhere you turn, every channel, even cops are talking about it. They're blaming the police. The police should have arrested. And people are even saying the police should have arrested her. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I didn't see the body cam. I'm going to watch a body cam. I'm going to give my personal opinion. I'm going to tell you if the police actually did make a mistake. I'm leaning towards that they did because that's what I'm being told. But let's watch the body cam. Police have to arrest when it comes to two people fighting who are in a relationship. They get a call.
Starting point is 00:02:15 They get a 911 call. Okay? I want you to listen to this 911 call. Then we're going to watch the body cam. They just drove off. They're going down Main Street. They made a right onto Main Street from Moonflower. What were they doing?
Starting point is 00:02:28 What did you say? What were they doing? We drove by and a gentleman was slapping the girl. Who was slapping her? Yes, and then we stopped. They ran up and down the sidewalk. He proceeded to hit her, hopped in the car, and they drove off. Okay, you said it's a white van?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Okay, right off the bat, you have evidence of an assault. He's seen the male slapped the girl. If I'm en route to that call, why am I talking like that? If I'm en route to that call, hopefully I have backup. But if I pull over the vehicle and I go up to the vehicle without back, if I pull over the vehicle, the first thing I'm going to, doing is I'm arresting him. Just because I put him under him under arrest doesn't mean I'm going to charge him, but he's under investigation for assault. I'm going to separate the two. My partner's
Starting point is 00:03:20 going to have a conversation with a girl. I'm going to have a conversation with him, vice versa, doesn't matter. And we're going to determine what happened. We're going to determine who the primary aggressor is. It might end up that we release him and arrest her. But so far, I have the evidence. The witness has seen a slap. I have reasonable and probable grounds to arrest him. The police locate the van that they're in, and this is the police officer coming up to the vehicle. You want to place your vehicle into park and go ahead and turn it off for me? No, park? Oh, it is impertient.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Okay, turn off your engine. Go ahead and set your keys on the dash for me. By the way, this is an hour is. That's how long it is, and I'm going to watch the whole thing. By the way, I don't mind him doing that, talking to the girl first getting the story, hey, did he slap you? Yeah, okay, I'm going to go arrest him then. But I'm told she's the primary aggressor from a lot of channels, a lot of news outlets, and that she should have been arrested. I just want to know if that's true. By the way, also, when it comes to witnesses, this happened
Starting point is 00:04:41 so many times in my career when you actually talk to the witness and you say, did you actually see the guy slap the girl? A lot of times they'll come out and they'll go, well, you know what, I didn't actually see it. And you end up with nothing. I'm like the man before and I was apologizing to him and saying, I'm sorry that I'm so mean because sometimes I have OCD and sometimes I just get really frustrated. Not like mean mean towards him. I just like, I guess my vibe is like I'm hearing me like in a bad mood. And I was just saying, I'm sorry if I'm in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I just didn't really stress. I had so much work I was doing like a lot of girls. A lot of women that are battered, a lot of girls that are battered, There's sorry a lot and I'm not saying that's in this case. I just wanted to like, she just seems sorry a lot. She's saying that I'm a mean person. I'm being mean to him. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Building my website. I just been really stressed and he doesn't really believe that I could do any of it. That's kind of been like a, I don't know, he's like a down there. I don't know. We've been fighting one morning and he wouldn't let me in the car before. Why wouldn't you let you in the car? Because you, because you're OCD? Told me any, he'd gone back.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm perfectly calm all the time and he really stresses me out and I just rough morning. I would have asked the questions right away. That's just me. I'm not criticizing the police officer. I would have said. I'm assuming that the cop seen, the cop heard the witness statement already, that there was a slap. And I'd be asking her. Anything physical today.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Did he hurt you in any way? Did he slap you? Anything. But he chose not. too and that's fine. What's that? You just talk to Gabby, all right? Yeah, I just spoke to her.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So, you want to do me a favor? Let's go ahead and get you to step out of the vehicle. You're not in any trouble right now. I'm just going to say, did you just talk to Gabby? He knows. He has mirrors. He knows that he just talked to Gabby. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:50 The comment just strikes me odd. Are you worried about something? That's what I'm thinking as a police officer. So tell me, what's going on? We see this gets worked up sometimes, and I try and really dishing myself. So I locked the car and I walked away from her. What happened this morning is that she's trying to start up like your own little website blog and everything.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So I give her time. And we really had a nice morning and if anything, but she just worked up because we were trying to get going and get our day going because you want to go like guards before you or something like that. You want to tell me about those scratches on your face? She had itself on her hand. That's why I was pushing her away. Because I, she wanted to, I locked the keys so I could walk away. I said, let's just take it.
Starting point is 00:07:36 breathe her and let's not, you know, go anywhere. Let's just on down for a minute because she's getting and worked up. And then she had her phone and was trying to get the keys to get her and I was just trying to, I know I shouldn't push it, I was just trying to push her way to go, let's just take a minute, step back and breathe. And we see if she got me with her phone. Right now, I'm confused, okay? How'd you get the scratches? Uh, she had her cell phone in her hand. She got me with her phone. He, she was trying to get the keys. I'm confused as a cop so far. I still don't know how he got his scratches. You got a mark right here.
Starting point is 00:08:09 She got him with her phone. I don't get it. So if I sped up, I'm sorry about that. Or if I was shooting beforehand, I'm sorry about that. Yeah, it's been quite a bit to catch up to you. I'm sorry about that. We're just going into the park again to get water. Just going to say it, some of the meanest people are the nicest people in the world, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:27 This guy seems a little too slick. That's what I'm thinking as a police officer. That's it. That's all I'm saying. Maybe he's a great guy. Six-gallon water container. here to build up so we just gave him over to a hike. Okay, and we're just, I was trying to keep everything calm and quiet
Starting point is 00:08:44 because there's planes still to go for a hike. Okay, I'm, I'm... Okay, he's painting himself to be a saint. I'm trying to keep things calm and quiet. I'm doing all this. I don't know. Is he a saint? Do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Do you want to go ahead and just take a seat right over here on the course for me? And if I was speeding, I'm sorry. You don't have anything in my pocket. Yeah, we know you're sorry. Did he hit you though? I mean, I mean, it's okay if you're saying you hit him and I understand if you're but we want to know the truth to be actually hit you. Because you know, where did he hit you?
Starting point is 00:09:21 Don't worry. Did he hit you though? She seems reluctant in answering that question. Did he hit you though? I mean, he just grabbed me. I mean, it's okay if you're saying you hit him, but we want to know the truth to be actually hit you. Because, you know, where did he hit you?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Don't worry. Be honest. He grabbed her face. You're not allowed to grab somebody's face. And I'm sorry, she's really reluctant in even answering that question. I hit him first, she says. That's what I thought I heard. Meaning, yeah, he did, but, you know, he grabbed my face.
Starting point is 00:10:02 She doesn't want him to get in trouble. I think she said he didn't really hit me or anything, like he didn't punch me. So has he been drinking? You know what? Sometimes these things can be really. difficult to decide to make the decision on who you arrest. What do we have so far? She got me with her phone. He has injuries. He grabbed her face and it sounds to me that he wouldn't let her in the vehicle. Who's the primary aggressor? I don't know yet. I need
Starting point is 00:10:52 more information. Right now we have a physical altercation. In nine times out of ten, somebody has to go to jail for it if they're in a relationship. What was up with this driving? I saw just that he hit a curb. I, I, I, while you're driving? While he was driving, you were hitting him? While she, while he was driving, you were hitting him. And now, what, while he was driving, you were hitting him. And all of a sudden, the video camera, the audio on their badge cam is muted.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't know why. Did you already tell him all this? I didn't get that far into it. I don't know what this means. I didn't hear it. She was hyperventiline. She's saying they don't drink, but at the point where you let them up. You don't drink or anything.
Starting point is 00:11:46 She started hitting him. I was yelling at him and then when you turned out, I said I kind of punched his arm. Like, there's those. She's saying, like, hit the curb. You say it was Gabby? I'm sorry, I'm really bad. It was Gabby. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I was just like, you're such an idiot hitting him. Hitting him in the shoulder. Like, it makes a difference. I don't care what anybody says. If you're in a relationship and somebody's just knocking at your, uh, your shoulder, it's not assault. Okay, it's not. But there's not enough questions. Maybe they ask it later, but if he's just like, you're an idiot, if she's just like you're an idiot for getting pulled over, hitting him in the shoulder, it's nothing. But she's describing it like I was hitting him.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Quick question, you said you were hitting him in the arm. Did you grab the steering wheel? No, I did not touch. Okay, she admitted to hitting it in the arm. I don't give a rat's ass. As a cop, I don't care. I know the policy, but I could easily articulate that that is not a salt. It's just not. I know everybody out there's going, yeah, it is, really? Tapping somebody on the shoulder, because look at her. Because that's all she's doing. She's tapping them.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Have you not ever tapped somebody who's your spouse? Well, I haven't. But God, she has. Like, you dummy? You idiot. It's not assault. Oh, so the lights come on. See? Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You know. But did you grab the steering wheel and like swerve or anything like that? No, I don't know. I swear to God if the media is saying that the police should have arrested her, even other cops are saying it over what I just heard. If there's nothing else comes to light, it's ridiculous. And yeah, I don't care what anybody says. She's a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Okay, maybe she has some problems. But if I'm a cop like that cop and the other cop, you want things to go well for her. You're on her side, believe me. And that's just, that's being a human being. In a small, small way, you could almost articulate something like. Okay, when it comes to domestic violence, you take, there's a thing called psycho of violence. I won't get into that.
Starting point is 00:14:02 But to develop, to figure out who the primary aggressor is, you go by size sometimes. Who's bigger? He's bigger. He grabbed onto her face. Okay? Then you dig into the history. Sometimes there was a lot of times where the guy would call the police on the girl we would attend. And we would confirm that, yeah, an assault did occur.
Starting point is 00:14:30 She did assault him. But after talking to the female, even though the guy called, we would determine that she's been beaten for the past year by this guy. And then we turn around and arrest the primary aggressor, which is the guy. That happened a lot. You know, you hear guys go, I call the police and you don't take her away. away? No. No, a lot of times the guys would call the police so they'd have a me day. They would think in their head, hey, I'm going to have free night. They're going to take her away, lock her up for the night. I got the night off. I know. Sounds stupid. I had a guy say that to me once.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I could use the break. He said, I said, we're going to bring her to jail. You know that, right? I can use the break. Out of all the domestics that I have attended, which is thousands upon thousands upon thousands. I've never went to one where, okay, well I have, I just can't remember, where the girl was the true accused. Start at the beginning for me, oh. Start at the beginning. I don't know, go too far back, but we've been in B.LAM land for the past week or so traveling around. And the flies here are pretty intense, so the flies have definitely been getting to her. And then my feet are dirty and everything. So I think our little squabble
Starting point is 00:15:54 started because you're hanging out of the coffee shop. And when we got back to the bin, there was some dirt. you ask somebody to tell you this story, they like to be really descriptive at the beginning, like to be really descriptive at the end, and then they just blow by, I don't know if he's going to do this, but usually they just, oh, and then we got into a fight. Well, you didn't tell me anything. I need details. They like to miss the details. I moved our food around as a result of this or another, so it was just more of disagreement, and I just wanted to say the disagreement about. It was, it was, I wouldn't even call it It was just, I'm...
Starting point is 00:16:28 Not even a disagreement, no. I'm dirty, like, I got 30 feet, I got sand in my footpuffs and stuff like that. It was every where the poppy shop for so long, because we were there from nine to three. So, yeah, there's a few little, little things, just little relationship. I'm kind of a good relationship, but I've been married for over five years now. There's a lot of little things, but she's, I'm not upset with her, she got worked up, and she had a phone in her hand and her keys and everything, and she wanted, I'm not, She's not a key, her rings, her things, the phone.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And I was held down on the keys because I just, I didn't want to go anywhere. And my big fears. She wants to get back in the van. He's not letting her get back in the van. She has a right to get back in the van. I'm sorry. So she's trying to get the keys. So they're wrestling over the keys.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I don't have my phone. I don't really, I don't have my phone. So she goes off without me with a car. I'm on my own. So, I was saying, let's just. Okay. Did that comment make any sense to you whatsoever? Let's rewind that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I don't have a phone. What's your point? I worked up and she had a phone in her hand and the keys and everything. She wanted, not a keys, her rings, her rings, the phone. And I was holding on the keys because I just, I didn't want to go anywhere. I'm holding out of the keys. I didn't want her to go anywhere. Big tears.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I don't have my phone. I don't really, I don't have a phone. Okay, I get it. He didn't want her to go anywhere because he doesn't have a phone. He didn't want to be stranded. We'll then get back into the. Damn, you know what I mean? Okay, he says she was hitting, I'm on my own. I'm saying, let's just go for walking. She was trying to get the keys for me. So I just go, just wait back up, back up, and it doesn't hit me. And I, I didn't get my own. Okay, he says she was hitting. It's, it's so, I'm confused. I'm not satisfied as a cop. And she was hitting me.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Well, how? Close fists, knuckles, slap what smack in your arm what is it I could understand them getting into a wrestling match over keys and he gets scratched what do you call that I was just trying to keep her away
Starting point is 00:18:47 and then I got really loud and then that's twice you know exactly what happened they got in a tussle on the side of the road witness drives by and sees some of it it's exactly what happened they're fighting over the keys he ends up getting scratched during it because he won't give her the keys.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Did she mean to scratch him? Because that means something too. No, he accidentally got scratched. That means something if that's the case. If you ever was attention where I was going, back up, get away. Just give me a phone. Okay, so he said you pushed her to create some distance, obviously, right?
Starting point is 00:19:20 What happened after that? What got the scratches on your eye? The phone. The phone. So you push her and she hit you? How'd you get the scratches? The phone. Have you ever seen a phone?
Starting point is 00:19:31 scratch maybe there's something attached to the phone in the keys he says the phone and the keys but your keys were in your pocket back up get away just give me a phone okay so he said you push her to create some distance obviously right what happened after that what got what got the scratches on your eye the phone so you push her and she hit you she was it I wasn't like a push and she jumped I mean she was already she was already I don't want to swing in there I was A lot of angles, a lot of nails, a lot of things. Yeah, you got three scratches in your neck. You've got one on the left side of your nose.
Starting point is 00:20:13 This is so, this is so stupid guys. This is so minor and so dumb. And have I even been talking in this thing? This is barely anything. That's the truth. Is there tender or anything like that? No, no, no. I'm fine, and I look at you.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I hope she doesn't have too many complaints about me. I'm just, uh. Yeah, yeah. I hope she doesn't have too many complaints about me. No, I shouldn't say it. I'm not saying this is the case, but a lot of times a guy wants to paint a bad picture of his girlfriend because he knows that she's going to say a lot of bad things about him to the police. So you protect yourself, right? She did this.
Starting point is 00:21:04 She did all this. Then you go to the other side and they're like, yeah, he did a bunch of bad things, but I'm not telling you. It's possible he's thinking this laundry. dude is thinking, holy cow, I better throw some things out there to protect myself because of what I had done earlier. I don't know. I'm just grabbing at it. I feel bad. I think it's so public. I was just trying to be loud. To miss a distance. No. I just try to make her calm down and be like,
Starting point is 00:21:32 he's just trying to create distance guys. I feel like everyone's watching. I'm like, it's not listening. Okay, what do we have? We have a tussle over some keys. She has long. nails they get in the way. You look at it the other way. Let's look at it the other way. You got an assault, right? That's assault. She assaulted him by scratching him. How do we know? We got evidence of injury. Let's take some pictures of that. That's the evidence. But was it an assault?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Was she trying to assault him? Or was she trying to get the keys from him? You could easily arrest her right now. Under the RCMP policy, easily hands down you can arrest her okay that cop says something about the i think he said the cop the the the witness who reported it you want me to tell you i talked to the person who reported it do you want me to tell you what he said ever saw the male strike the female he saw the male trying to lock her out of the vehicle so they talked to the witness he never actually saw the slap he never saw him hit her the male trying to lock her out of the vehicle She even told us that he was...
Starting point is 00:22:57 The male tried to lock him out of the vehicle. Trying to lock her out, tell her to go take a walk, so that she was trying to get in. She eventually couldn't get in and actually clawed her way in through the driver's door. That's what he said. It's also what the witness is saying. The witnesses, I never saw him hit her. I saw him shove her, but I couldn't tell you if it was
Starting point is 00:23:15 an aggression against her or a defense again. So they did see a shove. And a shove is a... It's an assault. But you can articulate it that he was trying to keep her away. just like you can articulate. I wasn't trying to scratch him. I was just trying to get the keys that he wouldn't give me
Starting point is 00:23:35 because I want him back in the van. And it sounds like he was already in the van and he wouldn't let her inside the van. I don't know. Defense against her as far as her being the aggressor. So at this point, unless the guy's screaming that he needs to go to jail and did something to this girl,
Starting point is 00:23:51 it sounds to me like she is the primary aggressor. Now, the problem with her being the primary aggressor is in an instance of domestic assault, be it a male or be it a female, we shall rest. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean they have to go to jail. We can do it. You arrest if there's a primary aggressor. If you can determine that there is an assault. If there is an assault, you arrest the primary aggressor.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And I'm not convinced, from what I see, I'm not convinced that she assaulted him. and I know everybody's probably going to think I'm nuts and crazy right now. I need her to say, I need him to say, she took her nails and went like that on my face, okay? Did that to get the keys away. But I'm not hearing that. I'm not satisfied. Did she mean to scratch him while she's trying to get the keys?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Because if she didn't mean to scratch them, then there's no assault. That's my opinion. It just makes, that makes a difference to me. Yes, if she punched him in the face and broke his nose, okay, that's different, obviously. Okay, she meant to, you can't say, I didn't mean to punch him in the face.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But you can articulate as a police officer. They got into a altercation over keys. She wanted the keys. And accidentally got scratched while she was trying to get the keys away from them. I don't know. I'm so weak. So weak. I know what the cops. This is a tough one. It's not easy. Sometimes you make it a lot tougher than it needs to be. But this is a tricky one. He said that. I'm probably, and I'm sure it was a little of both. I'm usually the truth. You know what? Okay. He doesn't want to pull over. She's hitting him in the arm to make sure he pulls over. I don't know. Why not? Is that assault? So, fortunately for her, just because he's bigger and stronger, even if he's not one of the best charges,
Starting point is 00:26:21 we can't treat this differently than if it was a male and female by half the charger. Let's say he did the same thing to her. She takes the keys. He tries to get from her and accidentally scratches her. Is he going to go to jail for that? I don't think so. You're going to have a hard time articulating that he assaulted her when she accidentally got her hand scratched.
Starting point is 00:26:51 while he was trying to get the keys from her. I do a citation if there's somebody to let them know that there's no contact order in effect. And we have to let him know the only way to drop is going to the police department during business. And that's what you want as a police officer. You want to cover your ass. You want to protect your ass. You want to cover your ass. You want a protection order.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And you want no contact conditions in there. So as a cop, you can sleep better at night. There is a small altercation. We've arrested somebody. We put no contact conditions in effect. My job is done. It's up to the courts to decide, even though the courts aren't going to do anything. I know what the cops are thinking.
Starting point is 00:27:30 They don't want to take her away. They don't want her to spend the night in jail. Okay, so they made the decision. I get it. I understand they are going to arrest her for assault. I get it, okay? I don't know. They just seem to be glossing over while I was trying to get the keys.
Starting point is 00:27:45 As a viewer, I'm not satisfied. How the scratches came to, how he was scratched. He said, well, she's by her phone. Well, she's trying to get the keys from him that he was keeping from her. See, I don't see why he's so happy about this. You can't because you'll have to be with her again tomorrow. Take your radio. See, I don't see why he's so happy about this.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Almost relieved. Can I go to jail? Really? Why? Why would you say that? would you say that? Do you think you should? You know, I'm going to tell you the truth. I honestly thought I thought I would come down here and I thought I would give you, I thought the police made a mistake by not arresting him because of what the witness said and what I heard on the
Starting point is 00:28:42 news. You didn't hear about, you don't hear on the news that what the witness seen, what the witness said isn't what the witness seen. You don't hear that on the news. So I get now why they didn't arrest him. Okay, so what they decided, they're going to arrest her. They're not going to throw her in jail, they're just going to release her on paperwork. He's going to stay in a hotel room and she's going to stay in the van. That's what they decided. Okay, this part's interesting. It seems like this guy's, the lead investigator is talking to a supervisor. That's what it seems like to me, but you can barely make out what they're talking. But this is where they're, they're talking about change in the plans. The supervisor just said, whatever she answers to the question is
Starting point is 00:29:29 going to define her fate, something like that. So they're going to. They're going to going to go back to her and ask her a question. They're talking more about the assault. They want to know if she intended to assault him. This is where you're too invested in her, okay? She has won them over. They probably got daughters like her. They don't want to see her get charged. It might ruin part of her life. They're on her side. They want to cut her a break. And I kind of like, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. They've just been there for too long, but I know, exactly how they feel. I know exactly how they feel. And the truth is, I don't think anybody has asked, did you mean to scratch them? Like, why, why are there scratching? We know that she
Starting point is 00:30:14 scratched them, but why? Was it out of anger? This is a very, very important question. How you answer this question is going to determine what happens next. But the only person who can answer this question is you. Think very hard before you answer the question. Do not quickly answer it. Think very hard. When you slapped him those times, were you attempting to cause him physical pain or physical impairment? Was that what you were attempting to do today? What were you attempting to do? What was the reason behind the slapping and stuff? What was the, what was that you were attempting to accomplish by slapping? I was trying to get him to stop telling him to come down.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Well, it doesn't sound to me like she attempted to injure it. Didn't sound like to me that she attempted to injure, but they're talking about slaps, not scratches. So I'm a little confused. It's your call. It's your call. I think he's the supervisor. It's your call. He doesn't want to arrest it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 It's 100% your call. I support you either way. I'll let you get back to your own parents, okay? I don't know. That guy went out on a limb. If that is the supervisor, it's 100% your call. I'll support you either way. Those are brave words.
Starting point is 00:31:38 They don't think that she was trying to be malicious. Fair enough. Now, I'm just going to be, I'm recording and society and the judges and everyone can judge me for this. Okay. I'm looking at 110 pound female and her fiance who have no means to be separated. He doesn't want to pursue it. She's not a threat to him more than slight abrasions. It's true what he's saying, guys.
Starting point is 00:32:02 If you didn't hear it rewind it again. He's using common sense. Sometimes you use common sense, even though you're going to get criticized. and judged. I don't care if law to not charge, but I also... Okay. I get it. I understand it and I don't think he should blame police. I don't think he should blame him for their decision that they're not going to arrest her there.
Starting point is 00:32:29 What the cop says makes sense. Okay. That's what happened. So that's why the police are criticized. That's why the police are being blamed. They're being blamed because they had an opportunity to arrest her. They chose not to do it. And if they would have arrested,
Starting point is 00:32:47 at her, maybe she would still be alive today. They're not going to, they're not thinking that she's, that he's going to kill her. They have no reason to believe that. She's the accused. He's the victim. It would, would have been a different story. If they showed up, they determined that he's the primary aggressor, and they didn't arrest him, and then he turns around and kills her.
Starting point is 00:33:08 But they have no reason to believe that she's in danger. She's the bad guy. I don't think he could blame police here. I don't think he can criticize. them for being human. And it's totally different situation. And it's hard for me to explain. I don't know why. They're cutting her a break. They want her to do well in life. They don't think, of course. And it doesn't, they don't, they don't think she's in jeopardy. They don't think she's going to later on get murdered. And really, that decision has nothing to do with what happened later on. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:33:47 This is a separate incident that has nothing to do with what later happened to her. And I know these cops got to live with this for the rest of their life. I feel bad about it. But it's not their fault that he's possibly a murderer. It's not their fault that she got murdered. It's not. Just like, when I arrested people for domestic violence and I put that no contact order in, and I released bad guy on that no contact order.
Starting point is 00:34:22 If bad guy turns around, goes back into her house or her place where her residence and murders her, it's not my fault, he's a murderer. It's not my fault she got murdered. It's not their fault. She got murdered. And easy to criticize, what's that going to do, really? What is it going to do if they would have arrested her that day? I guess maybe it would have interacted with time, space,
Starting point is 00:34:53 maybe a few seconds here would have altered time and space and the murder wouldn't have happened. You can't think that way. Not their fault. Don't blame police. And plain and simple. It wasn't a cut and dried assault. I don't care what anybody says.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I'd flip, flopped all the way through this, just like they did. I guess that's all I'm going to say about it. And bye, bye. What's that?

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