Clinton Jaws - Clinton Jaws | #42

Episode Date: August 25, 2020

Former RCMP talks about Roads vs Prime -Great Inspector in Duncan -His wife the nurse. Cops don't hook up with another cop. -The Jacob Blake shooting. Both Sides. -Protests in Kenosha -police podcas #policepodcast #policebreakdown https://www.clintonjaws.com/

Oh, good morning. Yeah. I'm a little, I'm a little hungover. I know my parents aren't going to like to hear that, but I'm a little hungover this morning. Had some drinks last night. Had a few drinks. It was a great weekend.

I had a great weekend. I really did. Last night. It's Tuesday? It's Monday last night. I had a great long weekend. Every day is a... long weekend when you retire.

Every day. Every weekend's long. It's great. You guys got so much to look forward to. You really do. So yeah, I had a few drinks. Had a few drinks of the wife. The wife's at work yesterday. Picture this, okay? The wife's at work yesterday. She's a nurse.

By the way, guys, R-C-N members, if you're not married, marry a nurse, marry an RN. LPN, it doesn't matter, okay? I'm lucky enough to watch my wife go to work, make a ton of money. She's probably making more than you guys right now. Because you haven't had a raise and I don't know when. And when you finally do, it's not going to be enough. Pretty soon you're going to be going to work in jeans.

Anyways, marry, don't marry a cop or a dispatcher. Marry a nurse. That's what you want to. Or if you do marry a cop, marry a city cop Okay, they're better looking I shouldn't say that Guys and girls, okay?

I'm not being mean I gotta make funny you guys a little bit, right? Like, why am I doing this if I can't Dig at you? I'm not calling you what people call us on the streets But they make more money than you too Why wouldn't you marry one? I don't even know, I just lost my train of thought

Where was I? Had some drinks with the wife. The wife is at work yesterday. She worked at 7 in the morning till 3 in the afternoon. And I'm at, I'm babysitting. Took the daughter to the lake and we had some beers, jumped in the water. And the wife calls me at 2 in the afternoon and says, she tells me that she has to stay late at work, not just kind of late, an extra 8 hours. She has to work till 11. How? Could you imagine? that how insane is that i know we police stay late sometimes you're going to notice that i say we

a lot even though i'm a civilian now because i still can't get out of my mind that i'm not a police officer it's just maybe i should just stick with we but it's not true but could you imagine could you imagine you go to work and they're like hey uh defraine you need to stay an extra eight hours. You know, cook. You're staying an extra eight hours. Could you imagine? And, but hold on. Hold on. She gets double time if that happens. What do police get? What do RCMP get? Most of the time? Time and a half. RCP union, you got to change that. All over time should be double time. Get on it. And if somebody's short on her, let's say, watch, if somebody is, if they're short, they can't get another nurse in, they all get paid an extra five bucks. I think they do.

If they don't, that's coming. Hello, union. Get on that one. Every member who has to work short should be getting paid extra money. Okay, where was I? So, so, I'm babysitting. I'm cooking them dinner, and around 7.30, wife shows up. Surprise. somebody came in somebody came in so anyways the point is I gave her I fed her some wine and we sat around and it was a good weekend it was a good night I went to bed at midnight and I woke up at 430 0 430 hours who does that I notice like I don't sleep like I fall asleep but I can't stay asleep and I wake up and I'm thinking in my head all I could think about is the video that I made yesterday.

I made a video yesterday that I didn't post. It took me all day to make it, edited it, all day, and I didn't post it. I sat on it. I sat on it thinking, should I post this? It was about Jacob Blake, Kenosha, the Kenosha, the peaceful protests. And I sat on it. and I started reviewing it last night and I never do this I never review my

well sometimes I do but not very often I decided to review this one and I reviewed it and I was just like no man you are so one-sided that's not who you want to be I came across like a dick like an angry dick

you're only given one point of view really you're not the meat It was like I was the media, how they only give one point of view and they leave things out. First of all, I don't want to be like the media. I don't want to be like a news anchor. So I'm like, I'm not posting it. So I'm going to talk about it in a minute, but from a different angle.

But I wondered to myself, why? What made me think in my head to sit on it? And I realized it was because of some. Something I learned from an inspector in Duncan. Yes, I know. I'm going to talk about Duncan. Yes, Ralph Foster. I'm talking about Duncan, okay? Every time I talked about Duncan, Ralph would go, oh, here we go. All about Duncan again.

Get over it. Yes. Duncan was a great place. I'm working in Duncan. I don't got a whole lot of years. I thought I was something else. I'm going to try to make this quick. When I was working in Duncan, we had, what was called a computer system called Roads. Computer, laptop, in our car, it was Rhodes. Roads was amazing.

I don't know example I'm going to give, but let's say you get, I don't know, you get a call of kids on the roof of a school. You show up to that call, they're not there, okay? They're gone. You go to write up the file in your car. Literally, all you do, everything's already added. You know, Corporal Georsky, Constable Georsky, whatever, attended the scene, G-O-A, which means gone on arrival.

NF-R, CH, no further action required CH. Nine seconds to write up that file. Then they came out with Prime, which in my opinion helped ruin policing. But we all had to be for Prime. We had to have a good attitude for Prime. That nine-second file now turned into 10 minutes. You could no longer do that.

to add everything. You had to add the complainant. You had to add the school as an other or a business or whatever. You had to, you know, 2020, July 1st at 0500 hours, Corporal Jaworski attended this location. Da, da, da, Da, Whistler Street. Complaintant put the complainant's name. This is who called. You get my point. Prime sucks. It does. It sucks. But it's supposed to be better. It's not. It's not better. But we had to go on a course. Everybody had to take this prime course. I can't remember. It was two days, three days, four days, I don't know.

And I'm sitting by a guy during the course, and he was like a negative Nancy about this prime. Everybody was, but I wasn't saying anything. I was being positive. And he was going on and on the entire time. And I'm like, holy shit, the instructors can hear you, Matt. So prime's over. Course is over.

the detachment in Duncan, and the inspector comes up to my watch commander and says, I got a complaint from the instructors that Clint wasn't positive about the prime course. He was being disruptive. And I tell my watch commander, what the fuck? That wasn't me. That was so-and-so. The instructor got the names mixed up. I know that for a fact.

So I sit down and what? do I do? I write the inspector in email. And I'm like, how dare you? How dare you? I said a bunch of things on it that I shouldn't have said. And it was a good half page. And I'm like, I'm no fool here. Okay? I'm no fool. I know how important this shit is. I was positive. You don't talk to my watch commander like that. And I go home and I print off the email that I already sent immediately to the inspector of the detachment. And I go home and I, I'm like, I say to the girlfriend, I'm like, look this, look at this. Look what I wrote the inspector today.

He doesn't talk to me like that. And she looks at it and she goes, oh my God, Clinton, you actually sent this to him? And I'm like, yeah. Well, look what you put at the end here. I'm no fool. What? I'm no fool? Hey, hey, Linton, I'm no fool.

And she started talking like I was all of a sudden. acting like Mr. T or something. You ain't no fool. I'm no fool. And we have a conversation about it, and I can't sleep that night because I can't believe I sent it. So I go back to work the next day,

hoping I can delete it without him reading it, but he already opened it and he sent me something. It was only a sentence. I can't really remember how he sent it, how he put it. But he basically said, I'm going to give you some advice. Review or sit on it or something like that,

before you hit send. There's a saying now about it. Maybe you can help me out with what that means, or how he said it, how he put it, but it was, it was kind of like measure twice, cut once, but with emails, sit on the email before you send it. And that's all he said. That's all he said. And a couple days later, I went past his, I went down the hallway past his door and his door was open and he's sitting there and I'm like, I'm like, hey, are we good? And he goes, yeah,

we're good. One of the, probably the best inspector I had was Linton. I think that's what his name was. He was a good inspector. He didn't have to pull me into the office and berate me.

Just one, you know, give me some advice. It's great advice. I use that advice. A lot. I wrote a lot of email sat on and never sent them. I remember one day I'm in the parking lot, and I'm in my cop car, and it's a great after. It's about five in the afternoon.

It's springtime. I'm excited to start the shift. And I'm coming around the corner in the parking lot, the police parking lot, and I hammer the gas, and I do a little wheelie. Fuck, who's coming the other way in the parking lot? Linton.

And all he did was that. Just that. And I went, that's all he had to do. That's all he had to do. He didn't have to take any extreme measures. Just the, I never did it again. Bosses that don't even have to say anything with just a look. How great is that? What's the point of my story?

Why did I start talking about Prime? And Rhodes. Yes, my video. I sat on my video and I'm glad I didn't post it. It was one-sided. I was angry. I'd read an article. I'd read, I wake up in the morning and I learn about the Kenosha shooting.

And I watched the video, which I'm going to show you, it's 24 seconds long. And then I see what the governor has to say about it. And it ticked me off. It ticked me off what the governor had to say. I'm going to tell you what he said. I'm going to try to calm down about this. And I just realized I couldn't post that video. I couldn't post it.

I was too shitty. I wish I had a great, I had great hair that day. You know, I only have great hair maybe once every two months. So it's too bad that I can't. Maybe I'll show you a clip of it. Yeah, I'll show you, maybe I'll show you a clip. You got to see the great hair. Then I go to Global News.

This is getting so old. Black man shot multiple times in his back. Black man shot. Let's see what they have to say. Global just talks about him having three children in the vehicle. They don't mention the arrest warrant that he was wanted under this warrant. They don't mention that he's a wife-beater, that he likes to strangle women violently. They don't mention that he's a violent sex offender.

The guy's a sex offender. It's easy information to get. And global news, good old global, eh? Can you Do you even watch it? What is the point? You're not getting the true story. You're not.

I don't know. I'm getting sick and tired of it. I'm getting sick and tired of global and see TV. I don't know how you guys can watch this shit. No, I can't. Watch shirt. No, I think I was wearing the same shirt. I think I was, same shirt as yesterday.

No, I don't think I can show it. Anyways. kids yeah here's the video it's 24 seconds come on back and we'll talk about it

okay so that's how I woke up in the morning watching that video I actually woke up in the morning with a global news article global news and they write this article black man shot of course black man right it's racist black man

never say white man shot but black man shot multiple times after turning his back. So he's shot in the back, which I guess is a bad thing. And so I start reading the article about it. And in it, they have a governor that made tweets, the governor. Tony Evers. Tonight, Jacob Black was shot in the back multiple times in broad daylight. And he talks about how gross the police are, okay? It doesn't even matter. It's mercilessly murdered, da, da, da. The guy's a lunatic. And what does broad daylight mean? What does that mean? Shot in broad daylight. Would it be better if it was dark, dark out? Like it doesn't even make sense, right? It doesn't even, this broad daylight bullshit.

I'm not going to get worked out. Is it better to do it in springtime or fall when the leaves are falling? It doesn't make any sense that people say broad daylight. So the article doesn't really it doesn't say anything about Jacob Blake. This is how I'm going to say this. This is how I'm going to break down the video. I'm going to give two sides what the media never does. Even though I'm not trying to be the media, I'm going to break it down to two sides.

I'm going to tell you, yes, when you look at the video for 24 seconds, I'm going to say this side. It's gruesome. No matter what, it's gruesome. It's disturbing. And it's sad, no matter what. the police officer, this is one side of it. He's just being non-cooperative.

He's not being cooperative. Why isn't the police officer going hands-on? Can't you tackle him before he gets to the car? Why wouldn't you do that? And when he gets to the car, who cares? You shoot him seven times? Why would you shoot him seven times? If the police officer had no justification doing what he did,

then yeah, they need to hang him. No doubt about it. But when I look at videos, I look at videos from a police perspective because I used to be a cop. And I try to put my feet into his shoes. And I say to myself, if I was at that call and I did that, why would I do that? Why would I shoot a guy like that? Now, so I say to myself, the only reason I would do that is for these reasons. Okay, this is the other side of it, okay?

So when I look at the video, I examine it. And I examine it from the beginning. And I see a bunch of people behind beside a car. All of a sudden, three people pop up out of nowhere, which tells me that they were on the ground. It was Jacob Blake, a girl, I think his fiancé, and the cop, so they were on the ground. Someone was going on down there.

Was he possibly being tased? I don't know, but something was going on. Is that why the police officer had his gun out? Somebody was lethal overwatch? Was he lethal, lethal overwatch? And maybe that's why his gun was out? I don't know. Why would I shoot him? Did he say to me, I'm going to get my gun? I got a gun in the car. I'm going to get it. I don't know. You don't know. You can't make a real judgment on stuff that you don't know. even though the governor can't.

Without the facts, he's doing it. Why do you think there's protests right now? It's not even called protests, okay? It's anarchy. He could have went the other way and stopped those protests, help stop them. Anyway, so in my mind, if I'm at the scene, and if I'm going to shoot a guy, I know he's going for a gun, or I know that there's firearms in the vehicle. Something like that.

Has to be something like that. Then I thought, maybe the police officer knew this fella. He knew his history. Maybe this fella has a bad history. I don't know the mentality, the mind frame, the mindset of this officer. But my mindset as a police officer to actually shoot somebody like that, I would have to fear death and grievous bodily harm, right? Why would I do that? Does this fella have a history?

And did that police officer know about his history? So I looked up his criminal history, which is really easy. Global news could do it, which they didn't. They didn't say anything about it. And I look it up. Turns out Jacob Blake was, he had a arrest warrant. There was a warrant for his arrest. His criminal history, some things were domestic assault.

He had a history of domestic assault, domestic violence, strangulation, actually. Sex offender. Okay, he's a sex offender. I'm like, okay, that's still, you know. You see, I had a buddy that shot a guy, okay? He shot a guy. The guy wasn't armed, but he had a history of firearms, robbery with a firearm. And this guy kept on going in his pocket, going in his pocket.

Finally, my buddy shot him. The guy lived, still has a bullet in him. my buddy missed he goes to court my buddy goes to court and they rule the shooting justified he's still working everything's great everything worked out perfectly but i'm just giving you the reason why he shot him and then i find it i find jacob blake's history that happened in 2015 in 2015 Dean Jacob Blake goes into a pub. He gets in an argument with somebody. He takes out his gun.

When he takes it out, the mag falls out. Okay? Jacob Blake pointed the gun at him. He leaves the pub and he's outside through the windows and he's pointing his gun at the patrons. Hopes in his car, takes off. The police find him. They locate him. He gets out of the car.

He's not cooperative. He's not complying. He's not listening to police. They sick the canine dog on them, and they locate a black handgun in his car with two fully loaded magazines. If I know that information going to this call, it might change things. It might change things. But I don't know the police officer's mindset. If he shot him for absolutely no reason for just being non-cooperative, hang them.

Obviously, right? Every cop would say that. But we don't know the details. The details will come out. But what's happened since? These peaceful protests, right? Don't talk to me about peaceful protests. That's not what they are.

It's total anarchy. It's gross. So that night, a police officer gets hit in the head with a brick. What happened? Oh, he's just got brick. It's attempt murder. Absolute attempt murder on a police officer. A brick is a deadly weapon.

That cop is lucky to live. Where's Tony Evers now? Why aren't they talking about that? No, right? Doesn't fit their political. The world's flipping out right now. It's flipping out. Anyways, I came across as a little bit silly yesterday, a little bit angry.

and one-sided. I didn't want to do that. And I thought I'd redo this video. I didn't want to have to redo it. It's the last thing I want to do. But I probably missed a lot of good stuff from what I said yesterday. And I feel like I did. But maybe I'll show some clippets.

The guy lived. Well, so far he's alive. Yesterday I didn't know that. Today I wake up. He might be paralyzed. He lived. And bye-bye. Call me a fool?

Big things are happening right now in Kenosha in the U.S. There's a lot of protests going on. There's a lot of burning. There's a lot of vandalism. There's a lot of anarchy. A cop got hit in the head, knocked out with a brick. Police responded to a call of a domestic on the streets. So police showed up.

Yes, it's sad. Yes, it's gruesome. I think in my head that if I know in my head that he has a history of firearms, and he's not scared to point it, he's not scared to use it, and he's going back to his car. after I told him not to, how many times? All you got to do is think about it. Would you do that? Would a normal person do that? Why is he resisting? Why is he going back? Normal people don't do that. So he goes back to the car. I'm a police officer. Do I want to die? I don't want to die. Don't go back to your car.

I think you might have a gun and I want to go home to my family.