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Episode Date: April 16, 2026

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And I know CNN wants to continue to focus on these tweets. This is what has been happening for the past 10 years. Right. This isn't about CNN trying to focus on it. It is notable. But you just asked how many questions on a pan? One after the other. After the other.

And I think it's frankly, the media should have done more coverage of this. This was sort of whispered about for many, many years. But you're in the whole of Congress. Why didn't you do more about it being in? Listen, if anything, the media is not focused on holding Democrats to account. And there's been an obsession with lawfare going out there. We just had the reporting Friday. after he was forced out

after he was forced out, Pam I want you to stay with us Clinton Jaws guys I put on I woke up this morning I put on CNN and when I find something good I have to show it to you I haven't watched this lady

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it's only thing I care about And joining us now, Republican Congresswoman Elise DeFonik of New York. Elise. She serves on the House Intelligence Committee and is the author of a brand new, very important new book entitled Poisoned Ivees, the inside account of the academic and moral rot at America's elite universities. Congresswoman, thanks very much for coming in. Thanks for writing this important book. We're going to discuss it shortly. But let's get to some of the important news of the day first before we get to poisoned ivies.

I love the title to tell us about that as well. President Trump has repeatedly claimed victory against Iran since the conflict began only to continue with all the fighting that's going on. Now he says the war is quote very close to over. Is that real? Well, look at the military achievements. The U.S. successfully destroyed the Iranian Navy, the Iranian army, the missile capabilities, and has opened up the Strait of Hormuz to an international waterway, not allowing Iran to hold that hostage. And if you take a step back, Wolf, this is a terrorist regime. This goes back to 19-7. It's the greatest, the largest state sponsor of terrorism funding Hamas and Hezbollah. They have blood of U.S. soldiers on their hands.

They funded the October 7th attacks against Israel. So this was a very strong peace through strength, military operation, and it shows the success of the greatest military in the world with a very decisive commander in chief. When you say peace through strength, what do you mean by that? Because as you know, 13 service members have been killed. And I represent Fort Drum, home of the 10th Mountain Division, the most deployed division in the the U.S. Army since 9-11, where you had members of that military division who have been targeted and killed over the past decades by the Iranian terrorist regime and Iranian-backed militias.

Our heart goes out to those service members who borne the ultimate sacrifice serving our nation, and we are keeping that in mind, and the president is every single day. But we have to take a step back, Pam. Iran has created war in the Middle East for decades, sewing chaos. It is a blood-stained terrorist regime. And to have peace in the long term, You have to get rid of the Iranian terrorist regime to bring peace to the Middle East. And it frankly has strengthened our alliances with countries like UAE, with countries like Saudi Arabia,

and, of course, a very close ally, Israel. I want to just follow up with you because there's the military operation aspect of this, what's happening in the Middle East, and then there's the politics of it, what's happening with the economy. I imagine you're hearing from your constituents on this. President Trump conceded to Fox News that the war with Iran will slow economic growth for some time. Do you agree with that assessment and how much more challenging does it make your job ahead of the midterms, trying to keep control of Congress for the Republicans? Well, first of all, we're having this conversation on an important day in domestic economic

politics. So it's tax day in the United States. It's a good day. Americans are having historic tax cuts because of the reconciliation bill we passed. And particularly in New York, I delivered the largest tax cut in history with the quadrupling of the state and local tax deduction. And I'm hearing from constituents who are saying, thank goodness you passed this tax. bill. Certainly the president is correct that there are economic challenges in the short term,

but this military operation is important not only for our national security, but for economic security for the long run. I wish I could talk like that. It reminds me of my sister but juice here. I just want to follow up with what you told me earlier. You said this war has strengthened our relationship with allies. But what about NATO allies? As you know, NATO allies, Western European NATO allies have been incredibly disappointing. And the president was correct in calling them out, particularly the French, particularly the Spanish and the Italians who have turned their backs, and it's frankly the U.S. that is propped up NATO, Pam, and we are the reason under, frankly, President Trump's tough leadership

that countries in NATO have been forced to increase their defense spending. Where it has strengthened our allies is with our Eastern European NATO allies, and particularly our alliances within the Middle East. This Iranian rogue regime has frankly forced the other countries in the Middle East to strengthen their allies to counter this terrorist regime. But should the administration, given the, the allies a heads up about this because as you know this is deeply impacted them and their economies and should the u.s. withdrawal from NATO given what you laid out no they should step up those other

allies should hold their end of the bargain and it is incredibly disappointed and I am so proud that we have stood strong as Americans in terms of leading to open up this international waterway and not allow countries like French and like Spain and like Italy which has been incredibly disappointing that they have not been there because this impacts not only their national security terms of Iranian missiles targeting Europe, but it impacts their economic security as well. The war has divided not only countries, but as you know, Congresswoman, President Trump and Pope Leo are also split right now on several of these issues. You're a proud Catholic, as we all know, is it appropriate for a wartime president to repeatedly attack the first American Pope because the Pope has been speaking out against this conflict? Listen to her answer.

Well, certainly I'm proud that we have the First American Pope. I don't want to see the Pope as a politician. And, you know, the president, we know his leadership style. He is going to stand strong for the American people. And the president of the United States is a political figure. Of course he's going to be engaged in politics when he's politically attacked. I don't want to see the Pope get involved in domestic politics. What I think we can highlight as Catholics for myself is the increased number of new Catholics entering the church. And that's a great success for the Catholic Church long term.

We've also seen the president post that AI-generated image of him. as the Pope and as Jesus, if you will, which he later deleted and said, portrayed him as a doctor. In your view, were those posts blasphemy? Certainly, the president made the correct decision in taking it down. And look, I know CNN loves to focus on the tweets and memes of President Trump. I look at his record of results. He has strong support from Catholics. Guys, right here is the best part.

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You could also go to askchapter.org slash jaws. And look, I know CNN loves to focus on the tweets and memes of President Trump. I look at his record of results. He has strong support from Catholics like me. And I've been proud of our record. And, you know, the media can continue talking about the tweets. I talk about the results. He's focused out bringing peace to the Middle East.

But it is notable. He's attacking the first American Pope, and it is Republicans who are Catholic who are also coming out to get that. The Pope should not be attacking. The Pope, from my perspective, should not be engaging in political attacks. I don't want to see the Pope as a politician. I want to see the Pope continue to focus on this resurgence that we're seeing in the Catholic Church. As he has said, he says, I'm not getting involved in politics and focusing on the gospel. You don't see it that way.

I don't believe that the Pope should function as a politician. President Trump is a political leader, and he is a strong political leader. So I was disappointed to see that attack from the Pope. And I know CNN wants to continue to focus on these tweets. This is what has been happening for the past 10 years. Look at the results. Look at historically the historic number of support from Catholics for President Trump, from Catholics for House Republicans as well.

Right. This isn't about CNN trying to focus on it. It is notable. There is you just how many questions on a, Pam. One after the other. Well, I ask follow-up questions because that they were warranted. Pam. Reminds me a stepbrothers, doesn't it? It's Pam.

I'm sorry. Well, Pan. No, my name is Pam. Are you saying Pan? Pan? Or Pam? I'm saying Pam. Pam. Pam. Pan. Pan. Pan. Panned. Here, it's P.

P. A, N-M. Two M. That was the confusion. No, there's just one M. Get out of my office. Given everything we've seen in Congress over the past few days since our exclusive reporting last Friday, the resignations of Democrat Eric Swolell. and Republican Tony Gonzalez amid the allegations of inappropriate sexual relationships with staff. Is there also moral rot in the halls of the Capitol?

Well, Eric Swalwell's situation. I mean, this is Nancy Pelosi's protege in California. He's a previous presidential candidate. It is deeply disturbing. And frankly, I believe criminal crimes were committed. If you look at... He denies those. But I've said what I believe that we are going to find that. And it's deeply disturbing. And I think it's disturbing. And I think it's... frankly the media should have done more coverage of this this was sort of whispered about for many many years but you're in the the whole of Congress why didn't you do more about it being in listen I want Merrick's Walwell's biggest political foes and I think correctly he was forced to resign but that was after only the public came forward and

these brave women and frankly staff members came forward I think that every member if there are these type of scandalous behaviors they need to resign immediately, no matter what party they're in, and the leaders of both parties have to take this more seriously. It used to be, Pam, in the day. And I've been through six speakers since I've been in Congress where they would bring in when there were any of these type of accusations, and there would be a much earlier resignation. And I think it's an indictment, frankly, of the institution. And you're seeing many voices speaking up saying, enough is enough. Should more Republicans have called for Gonzalez to resign earlier? I know those calls came after the small allegations. And I know

you did after the allegations came to light. And should Corey Mills, who is under a House ethics investigation, a Republican congressman, resign just as the morally right thing to do? My advice as a member of Congress is these members need to look in the mirror and really they know if they have been conducting themselves unfitting for the office and they need to resign.

You have to hold yourself to a higher standard. And frankly, we had strengthened rules in the institution of the US Congress that were passed in 2018, 29. that frankly have not been abided by. So it needs to be a swift ethics process, and those members should resign. Shuffle, shuffle, shuffle.

CNN reporting has also documented multiple women who have come forward with public allegations of sexual misconduct against Donald Trump. All the alleged incidents took place prior to his assuming the presidency, as you know, and Trump has repeatedly denied all the claims, calling them fabrications. No criminal charges have resulted from them.

Do you give any credence at all to this question to this question of whether there's a double standard. There's absolutely not a double standard. If anything, the media is not focused on holding Democrats to account. And there's been an obsession with lawfare going after. We just had the reporting Friday in Congress. After he was forced out, Pam.

Did you ever ask tough questions? After he was forced out? After he was forced out. After Eric Swallow was forced to resign. I did the point with my team, Casey Toland, just recently and Shoshana. Just recently. Before he resigned.

Before he resigned. Eric Swalwell is a protege of Nancy Pelosi, ran for president of the United United States has an FEC report that's public about all these expenditures with these women. And the fact that there was no media scrutiny whatsoever, and to your question, Wolf, which was a substantive question, and because I'm from the state of New York, there has been a history of weaponized lawfare against President Trump. Look at the text. Look at the videos of Eric Swalwell. Look at the staff member's statements. That is very different than the lawfare and the politicization

that we have seen. I want you to stay with us. We have more questions. I want to also discuss Poisoned Ivy's your new book. We gotta rewind that. I want you to stay with this. We have more questions. I want to also just... Oh, that's a good thumbnail. We have more in our next block.

I want to know, Ali Gordon was also part of that reporting team. So good. So good. Thanks for watching. Man, they got you, Pam.