Clinton Jaws - Mayor Calls Vancouver Police Racists

Episode Date: May 27, 2021

Former Police Officer, Clinton Jaws, speaks about the Mayor of Vancouver, calling the Vancouver Police Department Racists. Police in Vancouver detained a former Judge an investigation. Although the right suspect was arrested the police were criticized for detaining a judge and were called the worst name a cop can be called; racist. Nobody is talking about his. hotline number 604-330-2512 https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws #vpd #policepodcast #clintonjaws

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Okay, good enough. Promise myself that I wasn't going to get excited, so I'm not going to get excited. I'm going to say this with joy. I'm going to say it nicely. Vancouver Police Department, British Columbia. May 14th, 2021. They respond to a call. There's a lunatic walking around Stanley Park.

Okay? He's a shit rat. So they're looking for him. Why are they looking for him? This lunatic, he's spitting on people. He's kicking people. He's punching people. So VPT shows up.

VPD. They show up. They find the guy. They do a great job. They find the bad guy. They arrest the bad guy. But they didn't find the bad guy. guy at first. What they found was another guy. This other guy matched bad guy's description,

the description that was given from the public. Police get lots of descriptions, okay? Bald head, the color of somebody's skin, the height, what they're wearing. A guy walked by matching bad guy's description. So he detained them. He detained him. And when police detained somebody, you're allowed to put handcuffs on that person. When you arrest somebody, you're allowed to put handcuffs on that person. So that's what happened. He was detained for a very short period of time. And after they figured out that he ain't the right guy, they said sorry. It's happened. to me lots of my career. You're looking for a bad guy. You set up containment. Somebody walks into your containment circle or square or whatever you want to call it. Matching the description,

you do your job by detaining them or arresting them, asking them questions, investigating if it's them or not. Okay, this is where I'm going to say this nicely. So there's a mayor in Vancouver, okay, his name is Kennedy. Kennedy Stewart. I didn't even know who the mayor was. Oh, is there even a picture of this guy? I got his Twitter open. What happens if I click on his picture?

Do you see this? Anyways, that's your mayor of Vancouver. One of the most important places. Is it important? One of the most nicest places in the world is Vancouver, okay? He's the mayor. He finds out about this arrest. of this fella and he's appalled he's disgusted that vpd arrested this guy detained him he's appalled

why is he a why would why are we talking about this why would he be appalled about normal police work happens all the time it's what police do why would he be appalled that a different guy not the suspect got arrested. Because the person that was detained was black. That's why we're here today. That's why we're talking about this. Not only, not only was he black, he was a judge. And I guess that's a really important thing. Not only was he black, but he was also a former judge. And I guess that, that means something. I guess if you're a judge in Canada, that's important, I guess. So he comes up with a statement And it starts off

Mayor's Stuart's statement on the wrongful handcuffing of Retired Justice, whatever that guy's name is. And right away, I'm like, And I just found this. I'm like, wrongful handcuffing. Apparently Stewart thinks he's a police officer.

Why is it wrongful handcuffing? What is wrongful handcuffing? Do you detain somebody? You're allowed to place handcuffs on it. Believe you guys. selected this guy. I'm appalled by how Vancouver police officers wrongly detained and handcuffed retired justice such and such. These incidences are unacceptable and cannot continue to happen. Why can't they continue to happen? Last night I reached out to this former justice to apologize

after I was made aware of the situation. This is not something anyone should be forced to go through. Well, you know, shit happens. Incidents like this. can be very damaging experience, especially for those in the indig-indigenous, black, and persons of color communities who already face multiple barriers and discrimination. What barriers, barriers, and discrimination do these people face? I don't know. He doesn't either.

And then he says this, and I don't even understand what he's talking about. As someone who continues to benefit from colonialism, I recognize my privilege and how this impacts the way I live and navigate through our systems of government and everyday life. Like, what are you talking about? Stuart, what the hell does that mean? I read it over and over. As someone who continues to benefit from colonialism, when you read something like this and you don't understand it, there's a reason why you don't understand it. Peace up, it makes, how do you benefit from that?

he recognizes his privilege i'm getting sick and tired of listening to these people speak it's wordy and it uh if it doesn't make sense then it's not true i don't even have to define these words i don't even have to understand them if it doesn't make sense then it's bullshit and what privilege he's talking about privilege and i was i started thinking well how was this guy privileged? So I did a Canadian encyclopedia on this guy because I want to know a bit about

of his life, okay? This guy's got privilege. Is this how this guy got elected? Is this how he got elected? By saying these types of words? How do you got privilege, Stuart? Okay. Let's see.

In 1966, his dad lost his job. they went bankrupt and they lost their home. And he's trying to tell you that he had privilege. That's privilege? He moved to Vancouver with only $100 in his pocket. And he wants you to believe that he's privileged. Maybe I'm the only one that gets mad at this kind of stuff. But I hate it when people like Stuart.

I hate it when they talk. I hate it when they lie. You had no privilege, dude. None. What's your privilege? He's not going to tell you. And then he says this. I want to say again, all of our institutions are based on colonialism and as such are systemically racist. This includes the city of Vancouver and the Vancouver Police Department. We need to combat racism. So this is his example of racism. Because the judge was black. It was in a racist event. It was a racist incident. If you really believe Canada is racist, why you hear, man? Why do you live here? If you really believe

that. If I really believe Canada was racist, I would not live here. It's possible that it's the least racist country in the entire world. But because people like Stewart, they won't let, racism has never been better, okay? It's never been lower, ever. But you would think it's getting worse. Five years from now, it's probably going to be worse, even though it's better. People like Stewart will not let racism die because he keeps on talking about it and bringing it up and making lies about it.

There is no systemic racism in policing, and there's especially no systemic racism them in the VPD. I know that, I think the majority of people know that. But when you got a guy who's kind of important telling the world this, telling all of Vancouver that with no evidence, no evidence whatsoever, and he's saying those words, that's harmful, it's hurtful, and it's dangerous, and it's wrong. The police did a good job that day.

They did everything right. And he shits all over them. Instead of saying they did a good job, he calls them racist. Who are you? Could you imagine being that cop that day? Doing his job. He's a guy who matches the description. What does this guy even look like?

Okay? What's this judge look like? Okay. Hey, Alpha 5-1. I got a black male. He's bald. Wearing a tan shirt. I think I got the suspect right.

here. You better do your job, constable, and detain them. Ask him some questions. You better do what you're trained to do. And that's what we're trained to do. That's what police are trained to do. That's what you do. It's not the cop's fault that he matched the description. It would have been a bad job if he would have said, Alpha 5-1, I see the guy. He matches the description, but I'm just going to let him walk by, okay? Because he's black. And I don't want the mayor shitting all over me. I know it sounds stupid. And you better believe after he found out he was a judge, and he was a black man, obviously,

that the cop probably shit his pants. He apologized, which I would have done. Hey man, sorry. Sorry, you matched the description. This is why we did what we did. And it's over. It's done. It's completed right then and there. But no, it doesn't end there.

Kennedy, the dimwit, comes out with this statement. calling VPD racist. If he really wants to fix shit, why don't you become a cop? Stuart, why don't you? You would have been the, you would have done the exact same thing. And if you didn't, you shouldn't have been a, you shouldn't be a cop. Stewart apologizes to this judge because he was black. Ridiculous.

What is that? Have you ever apologized to a white guy for being detained in a, in an investigation? This is the world we live in now. And it's driving me loony. It's driving me completely bonkers. These people, guys, these people are running Vancouver.

This guy is running Vancouver. I'm tit. You're a dumb tit. That's what you are. So the chief of Vancouver, who I like? Okay, he comes out. He has to apologize too for some reason. I hate it when people apologize and they don't mean it.

Don't apologize. What do you apologize in front? So he comes out and says sorry. I don't know why. I don't know why he says sorry. Anybody to go through. I reached out to Mr. Okay, he just said it's a traumatic event.

I don't see it. What? So some handcuffs went up, went on your wrist nicely. It's not that traumatic, but this is what he says. Okay, what did you say there? Let's back up.

He reached out to him? I reached out to Mr. Romilly myself. Why? Why? It's already taken care of. The police officer already said sorry. But now, the mayor's involved. It's an important situation now.

Everybody's got to say sorry to this guy. What are you saying sorry for you? Did your job. On Saturday, to also offer my apologies directly to him. Why? How many apologies does this guy need? On Friday morning, the responding officers offered Mr. Romley an apology right away, A VPD supervisor also.

A VPD supervisor also. Like, oh, okay. How many times, guys? Contacted Mr. Romilly. How many cops does it take to apologize to somebody? That same day to offer an explanation and apologize. Okay. Police officers are human beings.

Yeah. We make mistakes. Okay, I don't like that. What do you mean we make mistakes? What are you talking about? What mistake was made? We make mistakes. How is that a mistake?

Am I so far gone? Am I so far detached from policing? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he's right. I don't see that. We make mistakes. Who made a mistake here? What mistake was made?

The cop had common sense. He matches the description. The mistake would have been to do nothing. So what mistake? The RCMP are trained that way. I assume that they're trained that way. It's policing 101. But he calls it a mistake.

I don't get it. What are you doing? We don't always get it right. They got it right. They saved the day. They removed a criminal from the streets from Stanley Park. Stanley Park is safer. They got it right.

I have spoken with the officer involved, and that officer also apologized for the circumstances on that day. God, that must have been fun, eh? God, here comes the chief. What he is. Chief Constable. You know, I might be wrong, but this chief came out and said, there is absolutely no systemic racism in my police department.

And I'm actually offended that you would suggest there is. I think that guy said that a while back. And I think I got that right. And I like that about him. But you don't apologize for something that you didn't do wrong and don't call it wrong and don't call it a mistake. It's policing. Sometimes it's messy.

It's not a perfect science. And things unfold quickly in the heat of the moment, and that is what happened here. Yeah. So everybody's sorry. It's amazing. You have this mayor. What I'm about to say is not even going to make sense, probably.

Is anybody thinking about why this happened? I've been thinking about it. You got a nut bar. walking around Stanley Park, spitting, gobbing on people, assaulting them, punching and kicking. Where'd he come from? He's obviously on drugs or suffering from mental health. Why is he on the streets? He's probably homeless.

They like to call them homeless. It's their way to get the burden off their back. You can't call them mentally ill. You can't call them on drugs, drug addicts. You've got to call them homeless. So you have this mayor that's criticizing police for cleaning up his mess. What are you doing, Stuart, about the homelessness? What are you doing about Hastings Street?

You probably drifted from Hastings Street. What are you doing about that street? Why don't you clean up your shit? Clean up your mess so the police don't have to. They're out running around trying to catch insane people because you won't help fix that problem. Fix the crazies. And if you can't, don't blame the police for doing your job.

You're incompetent. The police department isn't. It's you. You're the problem. Focus your time and attention on Hastings Street. How about that? Nobody is talking about this at all. I stumbled upon it.

Nobody's talking about it. Nobody's saying the things I'm saying. Why? Why do we hide behind the truth? What's the truth? This mayor called the police department racist. He called this incident racist. Why is it racist?

He's the guy was black. How was that racist? Did anybody ask the mayor? What do you mean? Because he's black. That's VPD oppressing him? Because of the color of his skin. You know why he was detained. Because he matched the description. So how is that racism? Has anybody

asked the mayor this? Nope. Nobody. Not one person. We just let it happen. We just let it go by. We watch him get reelected. It bugs me, it eats me alive because if I'm the chief, I would have been like, I wouldn't have done a press conference like that. I would have said, well, well of course no I didn't apologize why would I apologize to the former judge PC's black why would I do that wasn't racist

my constable already apologized to him why do I need to do that for this happens all the time all the time it was great police work we found the bad guy yeah while we found the bad guy we detained other people

and if the and if if a reporter said well the mayor you know he's calling this systemically racist I would I would have said who can't He was a rat's ass. Who cares what that guy says? Well, that's pretty stupid, isn't it?

That's a pretty dumb comment, isn't it? That's what I would say to the reporter. None of this would have happened if the bad guy was in a mental institution where he probably should be. None of this would have happened. But who's the first person to get shit on? It's the police all the time every time for cleaning up their. mess. They refuse to fix people's minds. They let them run around, acting like baffoons, and the police have to respond to it. And the ones who aren't doing anything about it are the

first to criticize the police response. Steward's definition of systemic racism is police detaining somebody for matching a description. Good luck. Hey, you know what? I'm not good luck for you pt with a mayor like that