Clinton Jaws - Megyn Kelly humiliates CNN Jake Tapper in epic heated discussion about his new book

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Megyn Kelly humiliates CNN Jake Tapper in epic heated discussion about his new book

There's no problem with honesty on this show. Okay. Yeah. Frank Ford. You really want the audience to believe you were fooled. You are not the right messenger to bring the story about the cover up because you helped. You allowed it and you likely did that out of a desire to help Joe Biden. It could only ever work if you allowed it, if the press allowed it.

Some of us tried not to and some of us were complicit. First of all, if we're going to do this, let's just stick to the facts here, okay? When there is a damaging report. That's what I've been doing all along. One of us didn't miss the biggest story of the century when it comes to presidential politics. And one of us did. Okay. So Clinton Jaws got a new setup right now and it's not working too well for me.

So bear with me. Please like this video. It's the only thing I care about. Everything's floppy. Jake Tapper, he wrote a book. Did you guys know it? He uncovered it. He finally tells CNN finally tells the world that Joe Biden is mentally ill. That he's possibly suffering from dementia. We didn't know this America. Nobody knew until Jake wrote a book about it. what we should really be doing is writing a book about MSNBC NBC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and how they tried to pretend, how they tried to trick little old people in old folks' homes

that Joe Biden was perfectly fine. Megan Kelly gets ahold of him in an interview today. Ben, oh my God, just destroys him, puts him on the spot. Let's watch it together. Jake Tapper thinks he's the God, he's the first person to ever tell the world, hey, there might be something wrong with Joe Biden here. But Jake, the criticism has been that you're complaining about a cover-up about Joe Biden's mental acuity that failed, that right-wing pundits saw, the right-wing in general saw,

that independent media saw and reported on, and that was no mystery even to left-wing and so-called mainstream reporters who were not full. fooled, but chose willful blindness instead of honest reporting and that you were part of it. How do you respond? It's a tough and fair question. I would say that Alex and I, after Election Day, interviewed more than 200 people, 200, mostly Democratic insiders. Fast forward.

All these interviews were, almost all of these interviews were after the election. Most of his campaign staff and others would say, look, he's 78, he's 79. He has senior moments, but he's fine, he's fine. Well, he wasn't fine. And in, finally Jake, throughout his presidency. Breaking news. That non-functioning Biden would show up more and more and more, and he was worse and worse and worse. Didn't know.

Look, knowing what I know now. What? Obviously, I feel tremendous humility about my coverage that Laura Trump interviewed. for example, et cetera. She saw something that I did not see at the time. Just didn't see it. A hundred percent. Couldn't see it.

And I own that. I did ask Joe Biden. He couldn't see this guys. A few days after he became president. Remember that? I'm being serious. No, I'm asking you a question. Because before, no, no, no, wait a minute.

I'm asking you a question. Is that accurate, the best of you or not? He just couldn't see it. But you covered the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years, and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I mean, time and time again, when issues came up, you seem to be running cover for the president. I don't think that's true.

Well, I mean, we'll start with the Laura Trump issue that you referred. He doesn't think that's true. Oh, my God. I don't think that's true. Well, I'm not certain, but I don't think that's true. I mean, we'll start with the Laura Trump issue that you referred. Here it is. This happened in 2020.

I like this one. Joe Biden, as we all know, his work to overcome a stutter. How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that? First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we see on stage with the state. on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.

You are no... Wow. Are you a doctor? Tell me that what I was suggesting was a stuttering. I think that you were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you were mocking his stutter. And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline. And it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of the free world.

Okay. That is on saying. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Joe. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I'm sure it was from a place of concern. We all, we all believe that. Laura Trump, thank you so much. Do you want to apologize to Laura Trump now? I already have, Megan, come on. I've already apologized to her. I called her months ago. And what does she say? I've rectified this. I mean, I don't want to disclose the

contents of a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well. And she said, why, you wrote a book. You put private conversations in the book. After we did the research for this book. I would. And I realized. how bad his acuity issues were. I, like I, I mean, I called Laura Trump and I said, you were, you were right. She was totally right. That's the thing, because when I watched that clip,

and I'm giving voice to what a lot of people watching the show are feeling, Jake, I feel angry because she was right. And not only did you not allow her to make her comments, but you seem to try to humiliate her. You had a hostility toward, the position, but she was totally right. And then you lectured her on how she was in no position to diagnose cognitive decline, which you guys do at length, including on page four of your book. You describe at length his cognitive decline, which is all she tried to do with you. But you had

such a visceral reaction to her. And my feeling is that's because you didn't want to hear it. Now, I mean, I'm happy to talk about this. I didn't come here thinking that you weren't going to ask me about this. I'm happy to talk to you about it. Her comments have aged well. My comments have aged poorly. I own that. Yeah, I own it America. Okay. Read my book. Buy it. But I'm just, I'm telling you like over here in my ecosphere, we were covering all of these. It wasn't just falling down. It was getting lost. It was some of the stuff you report in your book. We knew, and we were reporting on like the multi-jump cuts in the videos of him or it was obvious he couldn't get through. Orn he said, Ababu, get back to get you, bad, Ghibis. Remember that? One minute take. So they

had to use those. It was clear to us that he was using teleprompter, but there was no effort, none to get to the bottom of this. And now for you guys to write this book, like, there was a cover up. It's like you, there was a cover up and it was an attempted cover up. It could only ever work if you allowed it, if the press allowed it. Some of us tried not to and some of us were complicit? First of all, the Biden White House did not like me. Okay? This is, I do not have great connections with the Biden White House. Well, clearly, do you have a lot of sources? You say you talked to over 200 sources for this book. So you have something you could have called and worked. No, that's the point is that they were not being honest. That's the point that the Wall Street

General get it in June of 2024. And Jake Tapper and CNN couldn't find sources for this story then before he dropped out? Annie Lindski. and Chavonne Hughes did an amazing job in their reporting and they should be heralded and I heralded them. I had them on my show right after the debate to talk about their great reporting.

But Annie Lindschi... But you did not put them on when they published that story which was before the debate. Yeah. Correct. I don't know what the booking situation was but it wasn't because I didn't want them.

I'm sure I said that day let's book... I'm sure I said that day let's book that. Did they... Yeah, you put on a Democrat. And you allowed the Democrat to rip on the report as a Rupert Murdoch sponsored hit piece. No, no, no. It's just, Megan. If we're going to do this, if we're going to do this, let's just stick to the facts here, okay?

When there is a damaging report. That's what I've been doing all along. I'm talking about what you just said. Didn't miss the biggest story of the century when it comes to presidential politics. And one of us did. Okay. So the. But now I'm making a.

money up a book. There is a difference, okay, between the clips of Joe Biden falling on a stage at the Air Force Academy graduation. There is a difference between the clip of Joe Biden embarrassingly forgetting that a Republican member of Congress, who he's talking about, has died. You are not the right messenger to bring the story about the cover up because you helped. You allowed it. and you likely did that out of a desire to help Joe Biden and hurt Donald Trump. You didn't want to do anything that might improve Trump's chances. Yeah.

I do not think that that is accurate. I don't. He doesn't think that's true. Hey, by interviewing a bad guy. And I said, you, you, you did that to that girl. I don't think, Clint, that that's totally accurate. So guilty. Like I said before, do if I had known then what I know now, would I have been more aggressive?

He didn't know. How did I know? I'm just curious because when I saw that Wall Street Journal report in June of 24, we had all been discussing his serious cognitive problems for years by that point. In June of 2022, this show did a full two-hour program on his cognitive decline. I heard it was. It was, I know we want to pretend. I'm mentioning the Wall Street Journal.

He heard it, but he's pretending not to have known that Joe Biden was retarded. This is just, this is media everywhere, guys, all around the world. It's bad in Canada. It's bad in America. These guys shape the world and have been shaping the world for years. As a courtesy. But those of us on this side of the aisle had been reporting in depth on his multiple problems and the obvious lies we were being told for years, for years. You really want the audience to believe you were fooled?

What do you mean I was fooled? I'm not saying I was fooled. I'm saying we all saw these moments before the camera and they were obviously concerning and he was obviously aging and that was significant. But the people at the White House, I'm trying to answer the question. But so the people at the White House when I would call, when others would call, when Alex would call for why? He's fine. He's fine. You'd call Democrats and say, what are you seeing behind the scenes here? Because this is concerning. He's fine. He's fine. They said he's fine. So he must be fine. Like, this guy might be retarded.

But your commentary on your show, yes, I'm going to bring you in. But your commentary on your show, Jake, consistently ran in one direction. occasionally you would ask some tough questions. I mean, here you are on September 20, 23, saying that Biden was sharp mentally. September of 2023. You said, you said he's sharp mentally. I think the question is physically, right? He's sharp mentally. And then you pointed out that his opponent, Donald Trump, was only a couple of years younger than he was.

There are many examples where you're doing that kind of coverage. Okay. So let's be honest and full about what you're talking about. There's no problem with honesty on this show. Okay. Yeah. Frank Ford came on with a biography about Joe Biden. Frank Ford came on to talk about his biography with Joe Biden.

And I'm trying to summarize what his conclusions were. So he is saying that Biden was. Where is the part where you say he's not sharp mentally, Frank? We've seen the following 10 examples in the past year. Yeah. Never mind three years. This is so good. I wasn't, I've already said.

I wish I had covered this more aggressively. Let's talk about the debate that he hosted. 2024, there was a ton of news leading into that debate in that month. And we look back at your coverage and found that you ignored it. Not only did you ignore the Jackie Wolorski-Wilorski moment when you had him 13 days later, but you ignored the freeze-up that he had at the Juneteenth celebration. You ignored what happened at the G7 when he wandered off in Georgia Maloney. Prime Minister of Italy had to go find him.

You ignored the freeze-up at the George Clooney L.A. fundraiser. You didn't cover it. You only covered it after the debate after George Clooney wrote his op-ed. Jake, nobody made you do that. Your network at every turn was telling us those were, quote, cheap fakes. And you were not combating that narrative. CNN was actively misleading us on what are. Our very eyes were showing us.

Let them talk now. The truth. That's the record. I will acknowledge that after I was named moderator, co-moderator of the debate, I tried to make sure that my coverage was fairly vanilla, both about Trump and about Biden because I just wanted to get to the debate. And, you know, the Biden people and the Trump people, I'm kind of frankly surprised at either one of them.

agreed to having a question altogether because both sides disliked me so much but yeah i remember that moment and i remember that moment the glitch at the immigration event and not getting much attention outside of conservative media at all and Alex and i are here to say that conservative media was right but why didn't you report it was correct and that there should be a lot of soul searching not just among me, but among the legacy media to begin with, all of us. I tell you sell for how this was covered or not covered sufficiently. 100%. 100% why?

So we just want you to admit that you helped Joe Biden and you did everything in your power to make sure that Trump wouldn't become president. Let me ask Alice something. This is this is a great part. You got to listen to this. So you may be aware, the hard time I've given you on this. show is not because of your coverage of the Biden mental decline. I'm, I've given you a hard time over the past couple of weeks because you, you were honored by the White House Correspondence Dinner for covering

this story, which honestly is like getting the award for being the thinnest kid at Fat Camp. I mean, there was literally no competition at the White House Correspondence Association dinner that they would even consider. You know, they're not going to give awards to anybody in the right wing ecosphere who covered this from the beginning with all due respect to you, Alex. But When you got up there, you actually got up there and said, we, myself included, missed a lot of this story. And we bear some responsibility for faith in the media being at such lows. But we the media did not miss this story, Alex. Who were you talking about?

He was talking about the people in the room. Bequay, it's not your turn to talk anymore. It's Alex's turn. Who is we? Thank you. I can defend myself. I can do that. No, we were the people in the room.

I mean, like, I was getting, it was a white, the house correspondence dinner. I was talking to the people in the room that covered Joe Biden. All right. So here's my follow. Got it. Here's the follow up. We, if that's who we is, did not miss the story. We in that room intentionally chose not to cover the story or dig into the story,

which is a massive story that we have missed in original sin. I'm glad you asked me this question because I heard you ripped me to shreds the night out, I heard the Monday after the dinner. And at first I was, I meant to say was congratulations and. And at first I was defensive, but then I was, you know, I thought about it also. Then I got off. You know, from your all perspective, especially the missed part. And like your readers, your readers that were saying, hey, there's a problem here,

or not your readers, but your listeners, saying there's a problem here. And I'm not seeing it reflected in the media. And after the debate happened. everyone to be like, oh my God, there's a problem. Oh, my God. I'd be pissed too because you would feel like you weren't listened to. And I'm sure that a lot of people felt that it was because some reporters let their own personal politics get in the way. And let's be honest, like a lot of newsrooms and DC and New York are more liberal than not.

So good. So good. Megan Kelly is the number one podcaster in politics. hands down i've always thought that and well it's just a fact thanks for watching subscribe bye-bye