Clinton Jaws - My Police Forced Transfer | ClintonJaws 64

Episode Date: January 30, 2021

Police Forced Transfer. ep 64 Former Cop tells his story about forcing the RCMP to transfer him laterally from the Lower Mainland. A no cost move that cost him everything. Do no cost transfers still exist? Police podcast. RCMP Podcast. - I also take two calls and talk about personnel and service records that you have a right too. Call the hotline [phone] https://www.clintonjaws.com/ https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws

Hey guys Clint here, former cop talking about cop stuff and that is Austin singing that song and I might be related to him and I like the song. It's catchy after you listen to a few times. I don't know the name of it. But it's good, I like it. How's it going tonight? It's Friday night. Drinking a beer? I'm feeling dry.

Do you guys feel, are you feeling dry right now? I feel dry. My skin is dry. I'm cracked. I got the crack marks in my forehead. And I don't like the dryness of the weather. I would rather feel moist all over. And I know some of you guys don't like that word,

but I don't get it. I don't get why you don't like it. One guy commented. He's like, if you say moist again, I'm going to have to unsubscribe. So, I don't know. My wife loves feeling moist. That's all she does is,

moisturize. Maybe that's my problem. I need to get into lathering myself up more. You know what I mean? That was dumb. But it's true. It's true. Who wouldn't want? I'm not going to say it. Anyways, I love being here. I love being here down here. Talking to myself. I enjoy it. I know I know I need some guests, but there's no other place I'd rather be. It's getting weird. It's getting weird. It's starting to feel a little bit strange that I'm talking to myself and I got to have a conversation with myself. I've already had this conversation a thousand times over and now I've got to say it out loud

but I wouldn't rather be anywhere else and the wife is always trying to get me out of the house. She thinks I don't do enough. I wasn't even going to say this stuff. I don't know why I'm talking about it but why don't you go for a walk. I get a lot of that and I'm like, I don't want to go for. for a walk. I don't want to walk around the neighborhood. Everybody's going to think I'm homeless. And they're going to try to take the dog away. Why would I? I don't want to walk. I don't want to go for a walk. And I don't want to go for brunch. You want to go out for something to eat? No, I don't. I don't.

Can't we just enjoy the lockdown? Is that too much to ask? But I started thinking, I actually like it. I like being here. This is a dumb story. We got an oil tank, okay, in the house. we got an oil tank. It takes oil. In other words, it takes diesel. Did you know that? Like when you get the co-op to come to fill up your oil tank with oil, it's actually diesel. You don't even need to use them. You can actually go to the gas station, get a jerry can and fill it up a diesel. Go back to your tank and fill it up, right? But who would do that? Only an insane person would do that, right? But I do that. I do that every second day. I go and get a jerry can and I fill up the oil tank so we don't run out of heat. That's what heats our house. Sometimes it back.

virus and this is what happened. It's 11 o'clock at night and I hear the furnace going and the furnace is struggling. It's struggling for oil because we're running out of oil and I thought I was on top of it and I wasn't and I'm like, damn it. I can't go to the gas station because it's too far away. All the gas stations are closed really except for the one across the street or across from end of town. It's at the end of town. But I know I have a glass of oil left in one of the jerry cans. Literally a glass. And maybe that'll give us a couple of pumps throughout the night.

And we won't get too cold. This is not an interesting story. Every time I drink beer, I have to burp, but I don't want to. So there I am. I'm in my long johns. And I put on my ski jacket. And I'm going to go out to the oil tank and put a little oil in there. so the family doesn't freeze at three in the morning.

And I go down the stairs with my jacket, my long johns. And I got my feet in my shoes, but barely, right? I got the heels are out. I don't even bother tying my shoes up. Just my tippy toes are in my shoes. And I'm mad. I'm angry that I have to do this, but I've done this to myself. So I open up the front door and I'm walking outside and I'm pissed off.

I'm mad. Like, mad at the third. world like go and then i see that holy shit it's a nice night out it's a full moon a couple nights ago it was a full moon i'm like it's kind of nice it feels like it felt like spring and around the corner i go around the corner and i realize why you so why you so mad man and i think to myself you know clint one day you're going to look back at this moment in and wish you were doing that. You're going to be 80 or 85, and you're going to be like, I'd give anything to be back at

that house putting oil in the oil tank. Because things have never been better. And I don't think we think that enough. I remember back in 2013, I was on the beach with a screaming baby and a screaming like three-year-old. I had a baby and a three-year-old. And I was hell. And there was an old guy on the beach. And I'll never forget what he said. Well, I just did. He said it doesn't get any better than that. And I remember thinking,

he goes, you're going to think that one day. You're going to think about these moments. And it's never going to be better than what you're going through right now. And I remember thinking, piss off. You're so full of shit because this is hell. I got scream of babies. And a wife's that That's angry. He wants me to go for walks. But he was right. And when I'm feeling the, when I get to my oil tank,

I'm like, this ain't all that bad. I'm putting a cup of oil in my oil tank. And things are great. They couldn't be any better. I guess that's what you call taking it in, right? Dumb story. I know.

I just. I think we don't. I don't know. You just kind of like go through life, right? You just kind of like skip through life. Like I remember when I was a cop and I had four days on, four days off. I remember thinking, what's the point of having four days off? Like who can, how can you enjoy the four days off?

I started not even enjoying the four days off because I knew I had to go back to work. That's not even making sense. You know how you work and it's like Sunday and the day. the Sunday is terrible because you have to work the next day. Well, my first day, I would start thinking, life is going so quickly that you miles will not even give me days off life. You might as well just put me back to work. I mean, that's messed up, right?

But it is going way too quick, way too fast. And we need to stop and just do what I did that night and think, you're going to wish you had these moments for the rest of your life. You're going to be old one day. or you're going to be on your deathbed and you're complaining about putting a little oil in the oil tank you're going to wish you were there every I've said enough about it I think you know what I mean me and the wife are in the hot tub the other night okay and it's starting to get a little bit boring I'm going to be honest with you we're sitting in there and we have nothing to say we have nothing to say

to each other we're just kind of looking at each other and I think she's trying to come up with stuff to talk about because I'm not saying nothing. I got nothing to say. She tells me about her work. I mean, you could only hear so much of that shit. And she goes, you want to work out tomorrow? And I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah, sure. Now, do you promise? You promise? Let's make a deal. Let's make a deal. If you don't work out. I said, yeah. Okay, I promised. And she said, if you don't work out tomorrow, I get your phone for the night. I'm like, yeah, done. Not a big deal. So I wake up and the morning and I'm like oh my god I got a workout because there's no way she's going to have my phone for the entire night like that's not going to happen so her workout and i don't even know why i'm telling

this story it's not even interesting but i work out and she comes home and she goes like did yeah i'm like yeah i did yeah right i'm going to go downstairs i'm going to see it i'm going to make sure that there's no i'm going to make sure that the uh the weights are all disheveled and and i did work out i did and I proved to her like yeah I worked out she's like oh my gosh oh god but now she has to work out but she's like how do you how do you feel you must feel great and I'm like no I feel terrible I feel shaky I'm sick to my stomach and she's like oh you must have you must have more energy and I'm like I'm exhausted I don't want to take a nap what do you more energy what's this all about You work out and you're supposed to have more energy?

No. No. No, and I'm sore and it doesn't feel right. I want to puke a little. How do you feel? Anyways, guys, I know that opening was a bag of dicks, and I apologize for that, but it meant something to me that I was outside putting oil in the oil tank,

and it kind of made me, I'm not going to say moist in the eyes, but it made me a little, when I was typing that out on my phone, I'm like, because maybe I'd share it, even though it's dumb, but it made me a little teary, I guess. People call me. They leave messages on my voicemail. And it's too bad that I didn't prepare for this at all. And people make comments. And when you guys make comments, I don't always get to them.

So you really should call the hotline [phone]. You really should do that. Because I know I'm not going to find this comment now, and I wanted to read this comment. It was from a Mateo Hunter, I think. And, man, I begin up. Thank you for commenting. There's been some creepy comments. I'm not going to lie to you.

There's a supervisor in the RCMP that created a fake name. On his YouTube channel. I wasn't going to say this. But he created the fake name so he could make nasty comments to me. Maybe I'll tell that story one day. Could you imagine? a supervisor in the RCMP creates a false Facebook account

to spread false information about a police officer that he thinks he wants now. That's weird. Okay, there it is. But let's take a call, okay? Let's take a call. I've got to adjust the volume on here.

I feel an obligation to answer you guys' questions when you call me, but I can't get to all of them. Because I'm so inundated? Is that a word? I got so many calls coming in. My name is Blake. I'm the 18-year-old from Surrey.

I called you last week. Called me last week. Blake. Thanks, man. Thanks for calling. And what's your question, Tits? I just want to ask you, if it's worth applying right now at the age of 18

and then applying it again in but three to four years. I'm currently doing my degree at UBC. I'm also in the military right now. I would say I've got a good resume, but again, I'm young. compared to the other applicants. And I just want to ask, like, show that apply right now, and then apply the end in three to four years,

and should I only apply on about 21 and 22. Yeah, that's my question. I love that you can answer that. And I love your show, man. I watch you on YouTube, and it's very entertaining. I like the straightforward attitude, the bullshit you get going. Yeah, keep it up. I'll definitely call it back once a week or something.

Once a week, or something. See, a little, man. Have a good day. Oh, that's cool. Hey, thanks for calling, Titz. If you call twice, I'm going to call you a tits. I guess it's a new thing. I don't really understand this question.

I think I do. I should have paid more attention. He wants to know, he's going through schooling right now. He wants to know if he should apply for the RCMP right now, even though he wouldn't become a cop right now. So the answer is no, no, you don't apply yet. No. No, they're not going to look at you and go, oh, wow.

He applied and then said no. And then he applied again and decided that, no, it's not going to benefit you in any way. It's not going to hurt you. But there's no point. The only reason you would do that, and I wish I would have done that. I went to university. I took criminology for three years. And I waited until after I took that criminology, I said, okay, now I'm going to become a cop.

I'm going to write the test. I'm going to pass it, right? No, I didn't. Had to wait another year to write it. Wrote it again, didn't pass it. So now I'm like, I'm behind the test. eight ball. I wish I would have, because I didn't realize how dumb I was. I wish I would have wrote the test right away while I was going to college, because I would have failed it while I was

going to college. If you think you're going to fail the test, then you're not going to, Blake. I mean, you're obviously a genius. It sounds like you're a genius. But for me, I wish I would have wrote the test right away, but then again, I had a ton of speeding tickets. I had a ton of points. But it didn't matter. I would have wrote the test to get to know the test. That's the only reason you would do it. And thanks for, thanks for your call. And by all means, call once a week. I like it. Let's listen to another. I don't know. This one, I'll be honest with you, kind of grosses me. Okay, I'll play it. I'm going, man. I'm a current member in F-division right now.

you. Okay. I forgot about that. He said he's from F Division. And I remember hearing this and I remember thinking, Holy F. What? Where is that?

F Division? Where's F Division? Could you imagine? Could you imagine being in Depot? And they're like, Clint, you're going to F Division. Kill me now. Like what? A, B, C, D, E, F.

Like, where is that? No, I'm not. No, I'm not going to F Division. And I had to Google it. I'm like, oh, it's Saskatchewan. Well, that's not so bad. We spent six months there. I probably already said this before.

But I remember being a depot, I'm in the classroom. And everybody, there's five days. In these five days, everybody in the troop is going to figure out where they're going to go. Monday goes by, I don't figure it out. half the troop figures out a quarter and then Tuesday more figure it out Wednesday and then it's Thursday and I still

haven't heard where I'm going to go and it was immediately I had loose stool I was just gurgling because the instructor and I forget his name isn't that something I forget the instructor's name

he was my favorite instructor he always said big times and he's standing in front of me in the classroom with a little card, a little like an index card. And he tells me, Clint, I know where you're going. I know where you're getting posted to. Did I explain myself properly? He's going to tell me where I'm going to get posted to. Because we're nearing our end. And I swear to God, he tried to mess with me. I don't know if I should get into this because I'm not prepared. When you're in Depo, you're going to have a staffing meeting. You're going to meet with staffing.

I'm sure they still do this. They're going to sit you. down and they're going to say to you, where do you want to go? I remember my staffing meeting like it was yesterday. And I'm sitting with a guy and he has a big map on the wall. He's like, point to where you want to go. And I tell him, I want to go back to the island. I want to go to Vancouver Island. It's kind of like before that, two weeks before that, I said that in class to another guy, another staffing guy, and he said, good luck. He actually said that. He said, good look. Like, you're not going to Vancouver Island. Nobody goes to Vancouver Island.

I'm like, what are you talking about? So I'm with the staffing guy, and I tell, I pick like 15 spots on the island. And he tells me, okay, okay, fair enough, fair enough. Good, yeah. And he points to the map and he goes, pick somewhere north. He said those words north. I didn't even know what that meant, north. And so I look at the map and I'm like, well, if I have to pick one, Squamish?

and he i don't even know if it's not is that that's not an earth like he he meant like pick the yukon or something like that and he started laughing anyway so he and i got it somewhere i think i got it somewhere and i can't believe i'm talking about i wasn't going to talk about this okay and i'm going to do a video about this do you know you could get your personnel records guys I pulled my personnel records And he wrote a thing about me And this might be one of the reasons why I got What I got

He goes during our interview I found I don't know if I'm allowed to read this I'll put it in my own words Okay, how about that? I found Cadet Jaworski To be Cadet Jaws, sorry

To be friendly and Open person He portrayed a genius? know a genuine, a genuine self-confidence, but was not overbearing. I believe that his comfort zone with people and such that he does not shy away from discussion and will deal with people quite well. He'd prefer to be posted at this place, on this place, on Vancouver Island.

He's got a great sense of humor and sexy tits. But this guy wrote this, and I don't know why I'm telling you that. Maybe I did that. I printed it off. Maybe I did think I was going to tell you about this. I guess I don't have a point. I'm just sharing a story. Does there always have to be a point?

And I forget what I was talking about, but son of a bitch. So he's, I'm sitting in the classroom. And he's standing there with the index card. And I said, where am I going? And my heart is racing. And I want to poo. And he looks at the card. And I said, just.

telling me and he goes his first words north oh my god and he stopped what are you talking to no no i had people in my troop cry when they found out where they were going and i was about to do that because i'm going north and i i remember saying to him i said don't mess around with me okay can you just finish it he's messing around with me and he goes north he's pretending that he can't really read it. Cowichin-Dunkin-Duncantagement. And I remember thinking, what the fuck is that? What are you talking about? I said, sir, what are you talking about? Where's that? Is it Duncan? Why would they call it North Cowich and Duncan? Why would you call a place that? And he's like, I don't know. It says Duncan in it. It maybe. Turns out it was

Duncan. It was unbelievable. It was the best feeling that I had at Depot. Well, the second to best feeling. The first one was getting the badge. But I got Duncan. And I remember going on the phone to tell my girlfriend that night. And I call her up and I go, guess what? I'm like, we can stay together. I'm coming back to the island. I got Duncan. And she's like, oh, that's good. Guess what happened? school today. What? That was a dumb story, but that's really what happened. Not everything has to be humorous and funny, but...

And we talk about that to this day, how she just... Oh, yeah, it's great. And she tells me, like, I said, why'd you act like that? And she was... I kind of like being single. Clint, all right. It's good to know. That's my story.

Let's... Oh yeah, I got a call. I got Duncan and nobody in my troop congratulated me. They didn't like it. They didn't like that. I got what I wanted. That's another thing. When you get your personnel record?

Maybe I should just tell you. Can I just tell you guys about the personnel record? You can get your personnel. You can get your health records and you can get a personnel record. It's this thick. It has every assessment that's ever been performed on you and you have a right to it. There's like really good things in there. I'll do a video on it.

forget it. But when I printed off my thing, it had, that was my list in depot. You could put like 20 or 30 places down. I only put 15. And Duncan was eight. I had Nanaimo Lady Smith, Parksville, Sydney, West Shore. I don't want Sydney or West Shore. I don't know why I put that down. Courtney. Chaminas is Duncan. then number eight was Duncan. Campbell River. Powell River was number 10. Why would I want to go to Pal River?

Oh my God. No. Summerland. Because it just sounded nice, right? Penticton, Colonna, White Rock. Maple Ridge. Who in the right mind would want to go to Maple Ridge? It's funny about Maple Ridge.

I had a member from Maple Ridge. Send me a video. And he's like, you've got to talk about this video on your podcast. I guess they're doing videos of Maple Ridge and they're doing the how and the why and I just don't want to piss people off. Like I want to make fun of cops. I think I think you need that. I think you need to be made fun of in a right way. And I don't know.

But I watch the video and I'm like, oh my God, the material. I'm not going to get into that. But let's hear what Skippity-Doodah has to say here. And thanks for calling, man. Thanks. and I'm sorry you're in F division yeah I've just on your channel it's hilarious I love it man I wish there was more members like you in the force

I would work with you any day you're funny as hell yeah I just wanted to say that's on the channel keep doing your thing man oh man I don't even know what to say I don't like it it doesn't feel good it doesn't feel good to hear that I don't know why I don't like compliments I guess not like that because he doesn't know

me. He would work with me any day, but I have messed up a lot. And I don't want you, I don't want people thinking I'm perfect because I wasn't perfect. And I have a lot of regrets, a lot. I wish I would have, there's a lot of things I look back at and I wish I would have, and I think it comes with age. I think it comes with maturity and being wise. And I wish that I could take a lot of things back. if I was to step into a detachment now I think I would be the guy that you would want me to be I look at things differently now I don't want anybody thinking

while you're watching this that I was a perfect little lad because I wasn't and I wish I did a lot of things differently I don't know what to say it's weird like after I heard that call I went to bed last night at 11. I'm on the couch. I wake up at 1. I go into my normal bed. And now it's,

it's 1.30. And I get up and I go back to the couch. And I stay up till 5? 5 in the morning. And all I'm thinking about is mission to detachment. That's in my head. And I'm going through every experience that I had. The fight and there was a time where I was unbelievable. There's no doubt about them. Like I actually think in my head, you're unbelievable. But there were so many times where I failed. I failed and I feel bad about that and I wish I would have. Sometimes management gets into your head and you think they're right and you start doing what they're. want you to do and you think you're when a bad boss infects you you're infected so you start doing what the bad boss wants you to do maybe i'm being a little bit too hard on myself i don't know i'd like to

i wish that was the case but towards the end i don't know if you would have worked with me any day you'd work with me now i'd know everybody i think it's important that everybody steps back somehow you have to find a way to step back, put the civilian back into you, and then you can move forward and be better than ever before, ever before. I know I'm not making too much sense, but I just don't want,

I don't want viewers thinking that I was amazing because I wasn't amazing. Sometimes I was. And I probably said too much about that. I have this channel I want to talk about the good things and the bad things. And I want to open up and I want to say what I failed at. I don't want to say what I succeeded at all the time.

I don't even know if I have said that. It's important that I'm honest. And it's a tough job. It's a tough job, BNA. I got promoted in year seven when you could get promoted. And I remember going to my detachment and they tell me that you got to take the supervisor course. You got to go there and you've got to take the supervisor course and chillowack him. Don't take it, guys.

If you can get out of that course, don't take it. It's BS. It really is. And I go and I take it and the instructor tells me they are no longer your friends. Your constables on your watch are no longer your friends. Get it out of your head right now. So you have different, you have shitty bosses infecting your mind. And then you have instructors infecting your mind.

And it's hard to like distinguish. So he almost convinced me that they weren't my friends. And it was the worst advice that he is ever, that anybody has ever given me. Because it's important that you have a relationship with everybody. My most favorite watch I've ever been on was, it was in Duncan. And we were friends with the boss. We were all friends with the boss.

And when he gave us shit, we were fine with it because we were friends with him. So I don't believe that you can't be friends. I go to a course and that's what they teach me. So I tried my best. I did. I tried my best. But I seen my mind.

I seen my mind. I look back at it now. And I'm like, you know, when Sabo left the watch a mission, I shouldn't have, I should have given her throw a part. party. I should have just grabbed her files and said, don't worry about them. Have fun to where you're going. But you end up listening to weird people. I don't think I'm making any sense whatsoever. I just have regrets. That's all. I got a comment on my my channel. And it's from Mateo Hunter. And he says, you've got to like hearing these opinions because it's wisdom and experience. But Clint,

Would it kill you to put out a couple of more videos pertaining to your experience, time, maybe some stories within the RCMP. I'm not harping on you on what you put out. I really enjoy it. But as someone interested in applying, I want to see more like that. You mention your time as a watch commander, how non-cost moves happen or are made to happen. Those are snippets. I come back for.

A whole video like that would be gold. Just my two cents. Somebody replied, yep, that would be nice. And then Matt Grant, he replies, This is great. He's saying the shit that he always wanted to do. Create your own stories, Mateo Hunter.

And Matt Grant, thanks for sticking up for me. But I hear what you're saying, Matt. And I'm like, Mattel Hunter, yeah. Hey, man. Absolutely. I like you giving me feedback. I like people telling me what they want. And I need to do more stories about the RCMP.

And I will. I got nothing but stories. But it's going to come out slowly. I'm sitting down here now and I don't know if I want to get into this, but I think I'm going to get into it. Because I've kind of told the story already before. But it reminded me of when he said, is, well, you talk about your non-cost, how non-cost moves happen or made to happen.

Well, non-cost moves aren't made to happen. They don't do non-cost, no-cost, stop saying it non. They don't do no-cost moves anymore. And I remember thinking, I want this one? Yeah, I do. I remember thinking, I told the story about my non-cost move, and I don't know if I told the the truth about it. I don't know if I told the true story about it.

And I don't want people thinking that you can get a no-cost move from the RCMP. I don't want you thinking that. Because it might not be true. And then I thought, after I read that comment, maybe I should tell the whole story. And I'll let you decide if that's what they do. I don't know what they do. Who knows what they do? What they do is not totally honest.

And I don't even know where to start. with this story, with the how I got a no-cost move with the RCMP. I made the RCMP move me. I guess I start with the baby that I had. It was 2013. No, shit. We got to go back to 2010. If you don't want to hear the story, shut it off, okay?

Why am I getting angry? It's 2010 I have a baby. It's our first baby. It's our first baby we've ever had. I take nine months off. She's about eight months pregnant, and I'm like, I got to tell them. Okay, now the baby's going to survive. Because that's how I think of my head.

Maybe the baby won't survive. But I think now the baby might survive. So I go up to my staff, Sergeant Dave, and I say, I'm going to take a pat leaf. He's like, oh, you're pussy. That's what he called me. He called me a pussy. And I'm like, yeah, I know, but I'm going to take a pet leaf. take it. Because if you take Pat leave as a guy, you get paid full. If your spouse doesn't get

paid anything, she'd get 17 weeks of maternity relief, EI. And I'm like, damn, right? So I'm taking the nine months. I was like, are you kidding me? I'm like, holy shit. It's gold. It's everything. So I take it. We have this baby. And I remember being off on the nine months. And I watched the Olympics in 2010. We have a blast. It's great. It's wonderful. And I remember thinking, I can't be in Abbotsford anymore. I have to be where my family is. How do I get over there? I've only been at mission for, I don't know, like a few months.

They're not going to release me, but I know in my head it's the right thing to do. How do I get back to Vancouver Island? How do I make them release me? and I thought about Dave calling me a pussy. So I go back after nine months. And I had it in my head. I'm going to put this in my inspectors. And I can't remember the inspector's name,

but I'm going to put this in his head. I'm going to tell him, which I did, he walked past the office one day. And for whatever reason, we started talking about people leaving and trying to get releasable. And I told him that we're going to have another baby. I didn't know if we're going to have another baby, but I wanted him to think we're going to have

another baby and I'm going to take more pat leave. And I knew they hated it. They hated it. Hated it. I promise you, they hated it. So I put that in his head. And I don't know if it was at that moment, a couple minutes later or a week later, we get back onto the topic because I know he's thinking in his head, oh, fuck, we got this guy. Like, why'd we hire this guy? He just wants to take pat leave. He's going to do it again. I even told them that we might have three babies, knowing that we probably weren't even going to have a second baby, which we did. And he said to me, I said to him, I said, I guess a guy who doesn't have three to five years at a detachment could never be releasable.

And he looked at me and I'll never forget it. And he said, not necessarily. And I knew at that moment that I was releasable. because of the words that I told him, so I emailed him the next day. And I said, as per our conversation, am I releasable? And he wrote me back and he said, yeah. I'd barely been there. And I don't know even know why I started back there.

I know why I started back there. But I started going online and saying I'm releasable and I started applying for jobs. I spent all of 2010 and 2011. And then a new inspector came in and said, that was bullshit. That's not going to have. happened to you canarsky you can forget that that's off the table so it's 2013 i'm still there but i'm basically at three years and they're like okay if you really want to go back to the island go ahead and there's a job in duncan they're looking for a watch commander and i apply for the watch

commander spot being a watch commander and i i'm talking way too slow because i'm thinking about what i'm talking about and i apply for this job in duncan how do you not get it right of course i'm going to get it i used to work in duncan i was a watch acting watch commander for two years been an uh a full on watch commander in mission for who knows how long. This is such a long story. But I apply for it. I do a kick-ass resume. It's 2013.

And I don't get the job. I don't get the job. I email staffing and I said, I want to know. I know I didn't get the job. I want to know who got the job and why I didn't. Why didn't I get the job? Who got it? Who was better than me?

Because in my mind, I used to work there. the shit I was doing in mission were it was good stuff. It was really good stuff. Ten people that worked on my watch ended up getting street crimes positions. Ten people that worked on my watch got promoted. The things we were doing on the watch, even though I had some hiccups, and it wasn't perfect. They were good things. We were preventing crime.

We were coming up with things to prevent crime. everything that Duncan was looking for. And I used to work in Duncan. And I kicked ass in Duncan. How can somebody else get Duncan over me? They don't know where Beverly Street is. They don't know where Dingwall, Alexander is, Zuhaylam, Trunk, Mary, Chesterfield. Like, you know what I mean?

Joe Road. Boys? They don't, nobody knows. Only I do. I'm going to get the job based on that, just the streets. You know what I mean? but I don't get it. And I could have let it go and I was upset.

I'm like, I can't let it go. I need to know. I need to know the reason. And I kept on email and the staffing, but she was ODS. And I didn't know that, but I just, my first grievance ever, I filed the grievance. And this guy starts coming back to me with the grievance. And we starts communicating. And he tells me, Clint, the OIC of Duncan,

pick the other member because the other member had more experience. The other member had more experience in a specialized unit. I'm like, well, the fuck does that mean? Specialized unit. I don't give a shit if the other member had more service

in a specialized unit. Oh, and the other member had more experience in their rank. I don't remember thinking, what? In their rank? No, it went, the other member has less service in you, but more experience in the corporal rank. And I'm like, how the fuck can that be?

How can that be? Because you can only promote after seven years of being a constable. And when I promoted to Mission, it was March 11th. That was the day I applied. So the posting came out and the closing date was March 11th. March 11th happened to be the first day that I can actually apply to become a corporal. So you can't get any closer than have, how can somebody else have more time in the rank? Well, then I thought, okay, there's only one way.

They just walked up to this person and gave the person a corporal patch because that's what they were doing back then. They needed corporals. And they were just giving the corporal thing away. You didn't even have to write a resume. You didn't even have to write competencies. You didn't even have to try to become a corporal. If they thought you were any good, they would just give you the corporal rank. But I thought it was horseshit how he's selling this to me.

And I'm thinking there's got to be another reason. You can't just tell me that how can a watch commander apply for a watch commander spot and then not get that spot? The other person that got the spot must have been a watch commander. But we have a conversation on the telephone. And he's telling me, and I remember it like yesterday, he's telling me this person got the spot for all those reasons I just said you weren't even in the top two Clint they had more experience than you I feel satisfied I am totally satisfied that they pick the best candidate for that position

and I'm like did that candidate was that candidate a watch commander at any point no but I'm like well that how can that be then how can a non watch commander apply for a watch commander spot and get it over me and he kept on saying it over and over and over again that they picked the best candidate they picked the best candidate with the most experience and it pissed me off so much that i finally said to him did you even read my resume and he says no and i'm like okay tell me this what how can you tell me was better than me, had more experience than me. And he said, I can't. And I thought, holy shit.

Okay. Well, he's being honest with me now. Now he's backtracking. But that just opened up like a what? You've been telling me that they picked the best candidate, but now you're admitting that he can't even, you're admitting that you don't even know why you're saying these words. And I know this is dumb,

But it was a big part of my life. It was a big part of what happened in my career. And I'm going to get to the point, which I find kind of incredible. I find dishonest and a little bit gross. I'm a little bit grossed out about it. And then he tells me the biggest thing, I'm thinking, this is not even adding up. It's not even adding up.

And he said, there's policy. that says that the OICs, when it comes to a lateral transfer, they can pick whoever they want, whatever they want. They don't even have to give reason to why they did what they did. Because there's no policy when it comes to lateral transfers. Well, there wasn't a lateral transfer. It was a job posting that we all put in for, and whoever wrote the best cover letter had the best overall resume would get the job.

But he's telling me policy didn't even exist. he's allowed to do whatever he wants i could have shut up right right then and there like most people would have okay i get it but then he goes on in the conversation because i keep on pushing him and he tells me clint duncan needed members and what happened with this person was it was a two for one deal and i'm like two for one what are you talking about two for one what was that mean well She has a husband that's also a cop. So Duncan's getting two members for the price of one. And they're saving on moving both when it comes to a cost move.

And they're getting two members. So of course the OIC is going to pick that. They're going to pick that member. Oh, I thought. So they didn't pick the best candidate. And I know deep down that they didn't. How is that fair to me? something kind of off there.

He kept on telling me that there was no policy, but I read policy. And he was wrong. So I continued with the grievance. And I'm like, I want to know more. I want to see this. So in my grievance, I say, I want all recordings, emails, documents,

everything you have. I want to know about this candidate that got the job over me. And I want any notes that the OIC has. So they send me, they say I can't have. out of the cover letter. It's against policy. And they give me the notes of the OIC. And they're all blackened out. Okay. And by my name, there's a little thing over here that somebody wrote, but they

blackened it out. By my name. So this goes on from 2013 to 2015, the grievance. And we fight back and forth. He says, I don't have to give you this information. Lateral transfers or discretion of the OIC of the detachment and they can pick whatever they want and that just wasn't the case it wasn't true there actually was policy i dug deep i found it and i got the cb letter i got the other person's cover letter and i got the notes back but before i got the notes back he told me that i did not have three years at my current posting so all of a sudden it changed from it changed from not only did the person have more experience than me, but maybe it was because that I didn't have three years at my current posting,

which doesn't meet eligibility for transfer. So now, guys, this is so confusing, because they're being wishy-washy. If it's confusing, it's because they don't really want to tell you. They don't really want to tell you when they slip up when they make mistakes. So why didn't I get the job? At first, it was, I have no experience. I don't have enough experience as the other person,

but they won't tell me what the other person experience is. And I don't even have three years. So I get the CV from the other candidate, which, by the way, good job other candidate. I'm not putting down the other candidate. You got it. You won. I'm just fighting for myself.

You deserved it. You got it. That's awesome. You got what you wanted. And I heard your job. doing a great job. That's not why I'm saying this. I'm just telling me my experience about the no-cost transfer. And I don't know why I got it. So I get the CV back and I read the CV. Maybe it, maybe on the road for a year or two. And I applied for a road supervisor position and

watch commander position. I'm like, it doesn't even compare. It doesn't even compare. When I apply for the job, they have to take the best candidate. They have to put that into, dude, they didn't even, I guarantee you the OIC didn't even read my resume. I just seen my name. And then seen the other person's name that came with two names. And now I have staffing telling me,

well, you didn't have three years. That was a new thing that they came up with. So I got the notes back, unblackened. And there it says, right beside my name. Almost three years. Only has 2.11 months. meaning I have two years, 11 months. So I'm thinking, is that the reason?

Because they didn't give me the job? Because I didn't have three years, which is bullshit, right? It's complete bullshit. But were they thinking that at the time when they picked the candidates? When they said, you weren't even in the top two. Well, of course I wasn't in the top two. If they're going by that, if I wasn't in the top two. Of course I wasn't in the top two.

Why would I be in the top two? I didn't have three years. But he kept on saying, well, you were, even in the top two. Well, I didn't have three years if we're going to go by that. And that's what he's saying. Well, you didn't have three years. Like it was a rule.

But maybe it was a rule. Maybe they thought in their heads that that was a rule. So that might be an issue, right? It's so good to grieve shit, but you have to stick with it. And I stuck with it from 2013 to 2015. And I know she doesn't even compare to me. Not even close Not even close

The amount of experience I had over her As a watch commander wasn't even close They would have to train her to be a watch commander Huh? How do I not get that job, right? Anyways, I have a baby in 2013 I take another nine months off And they're like, what are we going to do now? I'm like, oh, you're going to have to figure it out.

Idiot. We take the motor home over to Port Alberti. We buy a place and put it. of Burney. But before that, I call up staffing and I say, I'm releasable. And I want to go to Port El Burney. And I'll never forget it. He says, Portaul Burney's desirable, Clint. It's a desirable place. You know it isn't. Why are you flat out lying to me? You liar. We don't just send anybody there. And I actually said, I said, what? He goes, there's no, we don't just send any corporals over there.

It'd be easier if you're a constable. And I said to him, I said, make me a constable. What do I have to? I want the policy right. I wanted to demote myself. To demote myself. And that didn't work. Like, I'm allowed to demote myself, but he came out with a reasoning why I shouldn't

and I didn't go down that road. But I was willing to demote myself into a constable. to get to Porto-Burney, the desirable Port-O-Burney. And we take off to Port-Al-Burney during my pat-leaf, and we buy a place in Port-O-Burney. I go back, I'm about to go back to Mission. We rented our house out in Abbotsford, and I'm thinking, I'm now a no-cost, no-cost transfers.

RCP does not give no-cost transfers anymore, unless you make it up yourself. So that's what I did. They used to? they got in shit for it, and they stopped doing it. How do you make yourself a no-cost transfer? I'll tell you how. And I'm not telling you to do it, because I don't want you to do it.

This is why I'm telling the story. Don't do what I'm doing. You buy a house in the community you want to get transferred to. And you commute from that place. Where's your residence? My residence is Port Alberti. But now, and I rent my place out now, but I have to live somehow in mission.

If I rent a place, well, that's going to be my residence. If I rent a place there. But if I live in a motorhome, a 40-foot motorhome, it's legit. I am. My residence really is in Port-au-Bernet. It's not going to be in the motorhome, right? It's not going to be in a trailer. So I spent my time at the raceway for a year, over a year.

I go back on my four days off. It killed us. It broke us. It was terrible. And I don't recommend doing that. But I was trying to, I had this grievance now. And I had what. So I phone up staffing and I say, I'm a no cost transfer. Well, how can you be a no cost transfer, Clint? And I told him the story that how I bought a place in Port Albanyan. I live at the raceway. And he's like, and I'll never forget it. He said, I don't encourage that. And I said, well, I'm not asking for your encouragement. I'm just telling you. that you're going to benefit if you move me to Port Elbernie

because it's not going to cost you $30, $40,000 to move me. But they want to punish you, right? So I did that for a year. After a year is up, the year is up, it's a year, I'm like, I can't do this anymore. I can't be apart from my family anymore.

I thought it would happen in six months. I thought it would prove my point, but they really wanted to stick it to me. And we're thinking about going to back to Abbotsford. We're thinking about moving back into Abbotsford. Because we had to. We had to. We had to do that. But my grievance is still going on. And I've been bugging staffing in Victoria. His name was Rob. Great guy, by the way. And I'm bugging the shit out of Rob, but Rob is also like, he's responding. He's like, yeah, okay. Yeah, they do need a corporal. But I'm worried. Is it going to

happen again? What happened to Duncan? Where there's going to be, they're just going to pick somebody because they have a spouse that is a member and Port-au-Burney's going to want to take a member that has, it's a two-for-one, right? Two-for-one. I didn't want this to happen again, so I continued with my grievance, which I never, ever found out the reason why I didn't get the job. They never, ever told me. And I don't know why I ended up going to Port-Al-Burney.

I don't know why they eventually gave it to me. Was it because I was a no-cost transfer? Or was it because of my grievance? So Rob says to me, there's a good chance that I'm going. But at the same time, I'm still doing my grievance. And I put down on my grievance, it's like year two. I come up with the word discrimination. I'm discriminated against.

And now my grievance has moved to a different person. I go to E-Div headquarters in Surrey to meet with a guy. great guy. And I'm not going to say his name because I don't know if it's on the up and up what he did. But he's a great guy. And we sit down and I say I was discriminating against. And he goes, I don't believe that, Clint. I said, well, first of all, did I, did I not, I didn't get the job because I didn't have three years? And he confirmed that, no, that's not why you didn't get the job. So throw that out the window. The three-year thing, that didn't happen. That, that wasn't a reason why I didn't get the job. So only leaves one other thing. They picked this person in Duncan because it was a

two-for-one deal that they were going to get. And I said, that's discrimination. Now, I don't believe so. I said, how can you not? How was I not discriminated against? If I would have had a wife that was a cop, there's a good chance that I would be in Duncan right now. So we kind of went back and forth, And he says to me in the meeting, Clinton, you just tell me what you want. I'm like, holy shit. Okay. I want Port-Al-Bernay. That's what I want.

And he said, okay. And you'll drop your grievance? He said, absolutely. A week later, I found out I got Port-Al-Bernay. And I got a message from him to my grievance coordinator that said, Clint's willing to drop the grievance. my grievance coordinator says, I haven't heard from Clinton. And then I wrote back and I said, yeah, oh yeah, I'll drop it.

So I never found out why I didn't get Duncan. And they never told me. And I don't know why I got Port Alburnet. I don't really know why. But when I look into my personnel and service file, I see a thing from somebody. I'm not going to tell you who. That wrote something about me.

Numerous times, Corporal Jure War, Jaws, has regarded, he's, numerous times he has said that he wanted Porto Bernie. Okay. And then he writes this. Porto Bernie is the most difficult to fill of the larger locations in Island, district. What? How can that be it's desirable? The fucking lies. Right? He's telling the truth. The other staffing guy over there in Mission was lying to me. We all knew he was. We know it's not desirable. He is the most deserving and kept a residence there. He was commuting and living in a

travel trailer near mission. There are no discipline issues to preclude this transfer. So I don't know if I got Port Al-Bernie because I was a no-cost transfer. I don't know if I got Port Al-Bernie because I fought the grievance, but I think it was because of this staffing guy, Rob, in Victoria, but I don't know. And I'm not recommending that anybody does what I did Piggins it was hell and it cost us everything that we had. I will tell you this, though, when I did go to Portault-Burney, there was a constable's name, there was a constable there. And I'm not going to say his real name, his name is Jay.

Okay, we'll come up with a fake name, his name is Jay. And Jay said, you know, not too long ago, like a few months ago, there was a staff, the staff sergeant who's a big dick, said to us, there's a guy that really wants to go to Port Alberti but I don't want him coming here he's talking about me right and that's the battle I had to face

when I got there could you imagine you spend all that time trying to get to a spot you want and you have a staff sergeant that doesn't even want you there that's chapter 5 and I have so much to say about that chapter What's that?