Clinton Jaws - Nova Scotia Police Officer BLASTS the RCMP

Episode Date: April 9, 2022

Tactical team leader during N.S. shootings blasts RCMP for lack of support. Emergency Response Team Police Officer Tim MILLS tells the truth about the RCMP and how he was treated following the Nova Scotia shootings. Clinton Jaws dissects an article written by the CBC and learns that it Was Tim Mills who was part of a team who located the body of Heidi Stevenson. clintonjaws.com thegoldenbadge.com Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWxFkykJzUk32iGqzSzXNYQ/joincall the hotline [phone] https://www.instagram.com/clintonjaws/ https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws #RCMP #NovaScotia #CBCNews

I want you to hear the dumbest thing the RCMP Commissioner has ever said. Watch. Dealing with it. We've had a number of traumas. We've had a number of suicides. People don't like to talk about it, but the effect on front line. So what do you have to ensure the mental health of the workers who are on these front lines in what is we have some of the highest suicide rates in the world would be under the communities that you represent?

When we speak about the mental health and well-being of our members, we can't do enough. Absolutely. Can't do enough, guys. We can't do enough. We're doing so much, but we just can't do enough. Did you notice that she didn't answer the question? She didn't answer the guy's question. What are you doing today?

What are you doing now to ensure the mental health of people, of members? of police officers. We can't do enough. And you know what that means, right? We can't do enough. We can't do anything. That's what it means. We're not doing anything.

She said that July 2020. What have they done? They haven't done a thing. I mean, can you tell me one thing that they did? An online course? Agora? She can't answer the question. that's why she doesn't answer his question.

I did a whole video on this. A long time, two years ago, RCMP Commissioner does not know what causes PTSD. Look it up, watch it. And you'll see what else she says. Can't do enough. I tried to stay away. Okay, I'll be honest with you.

I tried to stay away from the Heidi Stevenson incident. The Nova Scotia shootings, 22 dead, including Heidi. but this was sent to me from somebody and so I dug into it and I just want to say you know I spoke about it shortly earlier I talked about Heidi I talked about her her kids how she loves red wine how they took off overseas together and how when she put her kids to bed but the shooting those shootings the murder 22 Sorry. I stayed away from it. There's some things that I just don't want to see.

I don't want to know too much about. And when I did the video, I screwed up on the facts, so I'm sorry about that. I didn't know that this killer got into somebody else's vehicle after the fact and stole a white SUV where he was then found at a gas station and gun down. So I screwed up on that. I honestly don't know what to say here. I think I'm just going to read a couple of things. But you know how I like to come down here and I like to talk about stuff that gets me angry?

I don't know why I like to do that. Because like I'm angry right now and I'm not in a somber mood. I'm not in a good mood. Yesterday I found an article and it was called Tactical Team Leader during Nova Scotia shootings, Blast RCMP for lack of support. and I'm like, lack of support. That stands out. Lack of support.

What else is new? But they can't do enough, right? So I'm just going to read a couple of paragraphs. And I don't know what's going to come out of my mouth to tell you the truth. First sentence. Tim Mills led the emergency response team, Ert, says his employer, Tim Mills says his employer failed to respond to mental health. health needs. And I'm like, what else is new? But how can that be? He's according to lucky.

They can't do enough, guys. You guys know the story about this nut job that killed 22 people, including Heidi Stevenson. I'm not going to, I'm not going to get back into the story. You already know it. But Tim, Tim's got 29 years. He had 29 years service in the RCMP. And he tells a story how he was treated after the shoot. And it's kind of interesting to hear his words. So let's listen to them. Tim left the force in frustration six months after the mass shooting. He stated the abuse inflicted by his employer was worse than the war zone his team faced during the April 2020 massacre.

Those are strong words, but you've got to think about them for a second. How the RCMP made him feel. What the RCMP did was worse than what he went through in 2020 during that massacre. He's not lying. He's not making it up. We always talk about PTSD and cops and trauma and da, da, da, da. But where do you think a lot of cops are getting PTSD from? Internally, maybe, slightly, huh? Majorly.

what he faced by management and bosses was worse than the massacre. It was more traumatic to him than the massacre. Maybe doctors need to start thinking about PTSD a little bit more. And where does it really come from? Because honest to God, honest to God, I was a cop. If I had the support of management, and other police officers, if they had their act together, the trauma would have been fine. It's what you deal with when you come back to the police station that hammers you to death,

to retirement. And that's what I thought when I read that sentence. The real trauma beats you down when you go back inside the police station. I'm not saying everybody's like that. I'm not saying every place is like that, but it's way too common. Anyways, settle down, Glenn. I want to read more because Lucky said we can't do enough, right? From Tim, I don't expect upper management to fight us and abuse us,

to treat us the way they treated us after I gave the best I could give. So this is what happens. So this Tim Mills fellow. while pursuing the bad guy that day they're trying to catch the bad guy where Heidi Stevenson's stevenson dies he comes across her body he's there could you imagine i could i could imagine and i think tim is tim is possibly i don't know him but he's he's probably possibly built a different way. But if it was me,

I'm not getting that out of my head. I'm not getting her face out of my head. You want to talk about trauma. That's like the ultimate trauma right there. Her face will never leave my mind. The smell of the scene will never leave my mind. The triggers would be endless. for the rest of my life.

So after he finds him, after he finds her, Ben McLeod and RC&P dog handler constable Craig Hubley, they locate bad guy and they let him have it. And they get out of the car of the gas station. I don't even really know the

details, but one of the guys goes, I think that's a guy or something like that. That's him. He sees a blood running down his face, sitting in his vehicle. Bad guy raises his his gun. And they let him have it and kill him right after he killed Heidi Stevenson. Mills said he was proud of the way his team responded with the tools and resources that they

had, but he also highlighted challenges, including being short-staffed, having no overnight air support, and not having the technology to locate tactical team members in the Darks subdivision where the violence started. Ongoing, my entire career, not enough resource. and equipment. He stated that the RCMP's management never checked in personally in the days that followed. Okay, I'm just going to stop there. What else is new? We can't do enough.

And did not, the RCMP did not back up on promises to support his team mental health. Refusing to give the part-time tack officers more than a few days away from the regular shifts to decompress. unbelievable. But it isn't because I've seen it. Can't do enough, right? So they got part-time members on Earth. These tack members are part-time. The tack members are part-time. But they do G-D. They have to go back to their police station and continue their work. So they'll be working one day. I'll be working one day and I'll have tack members on my watch and they'll be go, Jaws, I got to go. I got to go out on a tack call. They go out on the tack call. they see what they see

and they're expected to come back to work and work gets better we don't have to give them time off right because we just don't have to when the call came in to rush that Saturday evening in April mill said his team was operating five people short

what else is new but they're she's doing everything we can't do enough. You know, you wonder why there's no resources. Why would there be resources? Commissioner Lucky came out and said, all police are racist. Absolutely, there's systemic racism in the RCNP.

She's a pylon. Honestly, what is she doing? She's not doing anything. She doesn't even answer his question. What are you doing for members that experience all this trauma? She doesn't even answer it. The guy even said people don't like to talk about it.

Well, she apparently doesn't like to talk about it. She won't talk about it. Okay, guys, he also spoke about not having enough technology. It was a huge officer safety. And you know what? It's always been that way. They don't care until something happens. Look at the carbines, right?

It took me my entire career to get a carbine in my hands. When I finally got one, I retired. He talks about no helicopter, Air One down. I'm just guessing it's Air One. Air One is always, there's a, maintenance, it's not available. And it really is shocking. You don't have Air One. Get something else.

Do something about it. During this massacre, you don't have a helicopter. I hope Mr. Stevenson sues. Oh, he says this. Okay. This is his words. The sad thing is, no, I wasn't expecting anything because it seems 80% of the time you call air services,

oh well it's down or we've got too many hours in or this or that or we need fuel how about that one he said you can just tell their overburdened too absolutely they don't have the manpower absolutely to keep up with the demands looking back mill said he was most frustrated with how the rcmp handled his team in the weeks and months that followed the mass shooting i don't know how you can screw this up what those guys went through what you guys went through i mean how was it going to her funeral like i couldn't imagine there's no way uh that i would be able to keep it together and you went through all of it all of it you went to her funeral you know what people don't get it they don't get it r c mp the assholes the uppers they don't get it and not only do they know

they don't get it. They don't care. You look at these people who haven't been on the road in years. You look at Chief Kins. No empathy. He doesn't give a shit about any member. Kind of went off there. But by the following weekend, the part-time members of the Earth team

were expected to go back to their regular general duty shifts at various detachments. Some of them came to him and explain they needed more time. Can you believe it? Yeah, I can. Get back to work. We need you back at work. We don't care that this was worse than Moncton. You need to go back to work. And I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I don't really want to get into this. But when I as a watch commander in Port Al-Burney, I had a girl come up to me saying, Clint, I got PTSD. She was on the attack team. And she just came back from some big event. And I can't remember what it was.

And when she comes into my office, she goes, I got PTSD. I was promised time off. I can't work tomorrow. And the staff sergeant was arguing with somebody in an imal, cop in an imal, and I read the emails. And he's demanding that she works the next day when she's begging that she can't. Sick. You want to know what's broken with the RCM. Tim Mills is telling you. Meanwhile, he said, no one from upper management reach out in the early days. How can you, how can you, how can you? Upper management, how could you do that? They killed the guy. They got rid of the guy. They did their job. These guys did their job. And you don't reach out to them? You don't even talk to them? Have a discussion? Did the commissioner of the RCMP call you? I would assume she would.

If I'm commissioner of the RCMP, I'm calling Tim Mills. I think I know the answer. Not one person for management has come down to check on us. Thank us. You know? Are you okay? Nothing. We're in the same building, he said.

That is incredible. That statement right there is incredible. Worried about his team's mental health, Mills said he requested his team to seconded in a psychological debriefing on April 24th, 2020, saying he approached it as a chance to assign them to earth-related desk work that needed to be done anyway as opposed to sending them out to deal with the public and scenarios like writing COVID violation tickets. We've been through war. They're looking for two weeks to decompress, he said in his commission interview.

And they can't even give them that. You know what? I don't got the words, but it's a huge deal. I don't got the words. This is the problem. It's always been the problem. The calls weren't stopping either because they're back at work, right? The entire RC&P tag team was called to weapons complaint

that resulted in the province first police-related emergency alert hours after the briefing. Despite making the requests, Mills learned the part-time officers were still expected to show up for the regular shifts the following day, a week after the shootings, and he said he didn't get any support from people who told him they'd assist. Tim Mills ain't lying, guys. He's telling the truth. I'm like, this is Tim, I'm like, are you effing serious? You know, they're actually fighting us on something so simple? Yeah. Yeah, that's what they do. Because they're nerds, and they got no empathy and no compassion. They've been cops for too long in suits.

With no gun and no radio. They don't get it. They never will get it. Losers. Talking about getting batteries for the detachment. That's what they do. They don't care about you. As a result, he said,

five ERP members went off sick because they felt defeated. Yeah, I know that feeling. I know that feeling of defeat. That caused tension with his close-knit team, so there was tension with his close-knit team because some of the members felt they'd face repercussions if they did this same. You damn right, you would.

Another problem with the RCMP. You go off sick. You're in trouble. Every time, all the time. I'm sorry for yelling. He said amid the internal turmoil, he began to struggle with not being able to sleep. Yeah?

Yeah. No kidding. But you know how he says it, though? he's talking about the internal turmoil not what happened to him it's the internal stuff it's a stuff that the rcmp is causing to him putting on him unnecessarily and he can't sleep because of that finding it mentally exhausted and he decided to retire i hear you same with me There's more to that story. He says, he says this, guys.

I've been to gun complaints. I've been to Moncton. I shot people before, you know. I've taken a life. Like, that is my job. I can deal with it. Can you? You're fighting a war for the people, he said.

Adding that he wasn't bothered by criticism from the media and the public, but said the treatment he experienced from upper management was worse than anything he was. endured during his years of service, you gross, gross people. You're gross. You ought to be disgusted in yourself. And I don't even want to hear your side. I don't care. Because I know it's true. I've never met him, but I know it's true. After eight months of leave, he officially left the RCMP, because they probably made you. Knucking on you, Darwin, you're coming back to work. frustrated beyond what causes PTSD guys that's what causes PTSD how you're treated afterwards making you

worse poking at you and fucking with you and hammering your mind into the ground one hour ago I just joined a Facebook group okay that was talking about this article talking about this incident situation what Tim Mills had to say and one fellow says what will it take to turn this big boat around. People like Tim Mills. That's what it's going to take. People who talk about it, speak out about it, tell the truth. It's not going to be the RCMP commissioner. She doesn't even know what triggers PTSD guys. Actually, we're doing the first of its kind in the world, a longitudinal PTSD study out of the training academy where we follow the cadets for five years to see what triggers PTSD.

What's that?