Clinton Jaws - RCMP Members Lives Destroyed

Episode Date: August 21, 2020

It was a good call. He should have been tasered, Former police officer remembers when Robert Dziekanski was tazed at the Vancouver Airport. No Police Officer, including myself, stuck up for those members. It was a gross memory that still haunts me today. A quick clip from "De-escalation can fail" https://www.clintonjaws.com/

Did you also see how hard it is to get somebody down on the ground, to take control of them? How many cops were there? I don't know. Six, seven, eight, nine, ten. It's very difficult to get somebody on the ground, especially that big boy. Hard to get them on the ground. Sometimes nearly impossible. It seems nearly impossible. I'm a light guy. I'm a small dude. My wife would say I'm not anymore, but you should have seen me at depot, RCMP Depot. I was strong, but I was light.

like we're talking light like a feather like silly light and we did a scenario we did a scenario one day and uh the scenario was there there's four cops okay one would play the bad guy the other three were the cops those three the good guys those three would try to take the bad guy down i was a bad guy one day three people had to take me down. They couldn't take me down. I wouldn't let them. It's difficult to take somebody down. I thought it was funny.

You know, nah, nah, nah, you can't get me. Running around, squirming. You couldn't get me. You couldn't get me in handcuffs. It is hard to get somebody in handcuffs who doesn't want to be put in handcuffs. it's easy for a bad guy to resist the rest it's easy to keep your arms under your body you can't get especially that guy who's

suited up in armor right costume gladiator costume and I forgot to tell you but when the police showed up he was he had a gladiator costume on he had a sword and an armor shield and two wrist armor wrists bands on his wrist. Anyways, my point is, it's tough to get somebody down. So when you see the cops, how many

cops does it take? It sometimes takes a lot. They ended up tasing this guy six times. Six times. And it reminded me of Robert Dazansky in Vancouver Airport call. Where there were four members, R-CMP

members showed up and tasered him five times. I think it was five times. But if you actually watch the video, not all those five tasers were actually getting at him. So it's kind of uncertain how many times Robert got tased. I would say it's less than five. If two probes are not in you and they're not touching the body,

then they're not getting tased. It sounds like he's being tased by the taser. A piece of tasers going off, but he's not actually getting tased. So you watch this fella, and it's pretty comparable to the airport file in Vancouver. But yet two of those cops went to jail because of that incident.

Even though they did everything right, their training was spot on. That's how they taught members how to taser train back then. Robert was the perfect candidate to be tasered that day. And yet two cops. I think their names Robinson and Millington went to jail.

I can't wait to talk about that video one day. when I know all the facts. I know quite a bit, but I can't wait to break that one down. Can you believe it? They went to jail for tasering a guy at the airport? Sometimes people die, guys. Sometimes they die. They get worked up.

They get in a fight with police. They get worked up and they die. This guy the whole time was saying he couldn't breathe, even though his shirt was ripped off him. his wife beater. He was even talking after that. So it wasn't, was he going into cardiac arrest then? Possible. I think so. If I had to guess, I would say, yeah. That's what happened to Dazansky. He had a heart attack. He stopped breathing. Sometimes they die. It's called, sometimes it's called excited delirium, where no matter what you're going to do, they're going to die. And the whole workup

of interacting with police, resisting arrest, they die. I don't know why I'm not a doctor, but it happens. And two of those members, RCMP members, went to jail. But it's just,

it's amazing to me. And not one RCMP member said anything about it. Not one. And why? Why am I even talking about this? I just reminded me of this. Robert D'Sansky comes to Vancouver

can't find his mummy at the airport where's my mommy starts throwing shit around gets tase he's all sweaty excited delirium he dies four members lives destroyed and destroyed

nobody did anything for them a judge decides that two need to go to jail and two don't bonkers bonkers