Clinton Jaws - RCMP Racist Training

Episode Date: November 13, 2020

The RCMP will soon be teaching members RCMP racist training. Police podcast. Former cop talks about (podcast) the RCMP Commissioner trying to provide 17 examples of systemic racism to government big w...igs. SECU Meeting. full videos of chief adam and Nunavut video can be seen at youtube channel "Jaws Raw Police Bodycam." Call the hotline number at 604-330-2512 https://www.clintonjaws.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Hey guys, Clint here. Let's watch this together. Something to do. How in the face of a lack of confidence by them can they expect you to deal effectively with that within the police force? Have you learned anything more about systemic racism since your last appearance before this committee? And how can we in the public also expect that you can be an effective leader in dealing with this problem? Thank you very much for your question. You know, as I shared with my management team, when I talk about systemic racism in the RCMP, obviously, I've learned a lot since...
Starting point is 00:00:52 She's learned a lot about systemic racism. There's two hours of this stuff, guys. And she's at one of those standing committees. You know those committees? Meetings. And she's going to talk a lot about systemic racism here, and she's learned a lot. Maybe we will hear a definition. finally tonight, a definition of systemic racism.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Here we go. Time. I've been listening. I've been learning. I've been consulting with all kinds of groups, including indigenous leaders such as the former MMIWG Commissioner, Marion Buller. Okay, who the hell is that? M.M.M. I, M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. She's consulted with these groups. So it's kind of important. You can't just laxadaisi say things and not expect anybody to talk about it. Let's just keep it going.
Starting point is 00:01:51 What other groups? The AFN National Chief, Senator Murray Sinclair, the... Yeah, exactly. Native Women's Association of Canada, the Inuit Women's Association. Can I ask you directly, though, how do you intend to be able to fix it, given the fact that there's a lack of confidence in you as a result of the statements by the indigenous leaders? There's a lack of confidence because what Lucky did was she said, a fib. She told everybody that there's absolutely systemic racism in the RCMP. We know any RCMP member knows that that's not true.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's a lie. It's false. there's no systemic racism in the RCMP. But she's having, they have lack of confidence in her because she said there was racism. But she has yet to give in an example. He's deep down, she knows there really isn't systemic racism in the RCMP. But she says she's learned, she's listened, maybe she's got some examples of systemic racism tonight. Yes, in the days and weeks following that appearance, I led the debate.
Starting point is 00:03:13 development of an action plan to address systemic racism. We are going to hear this action plan. She's developed. This is the first time I've watched, I'm watching it, by the way. I might have already said that, but because I wanted to, I don't know, I was upstairs. And we're in November, right? It's a little bit boring in November. You know, things are starting to get, you know, a little, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And I'm up as, I'm upstairs and I'm just thinking, you know what, maybe I'll just come down. here. Hit record and watch Lucky. Let's try to explain herself. And that's where we are. And she's got an action plan. So let's hear it. And the plan has been developed in cooperation with the range of stakeholders that I mentioned. And we have a total of 17 initiatives. Uh, what? 17. 17. Holy shit. That means there's going to be 17 examples of systemic racism. She's done it. She's figured it out.
Starting point is 00:04:22 She knows the definition. And we're going to hear some examples. Come on, Lucky. That have been under development and are being implemented. Are you prepared to make that public? Does it have timelines and targets? And is that something that is of practical, effectiveness and can you make that public?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Absolutely. It's on our website as we speak at www. rcmp.com and all the initiatives so far are put on there. No it isn't. No, no, you're wrong and it's not dot com, okay? It's dotCA. Rcmp.com doesn't exist. RCMP for everybody who want. Rcmp.c.m. That's the website. She forgot. She's in Canada. That's easy to forget. But yeah, so I went to rcmp.ca and I didn't see any initiatives.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I spent about 10 minutes on it. Nothing popped up. Couldn't find it. Maybe it's there. But I don't think it is. But I'm probably wrong. Okay. Within the RCMP and you certainly acknowledge that there is systemic racism within the RCMP
Starting point is 00:05:38 and there are things that needed to be addressed. And yet we continue to see disappointing situations. involving RCMP's involvement with indigenous communities what problems is she talking about what what problems what problems are there are there problems there I'm talking now but what problems we continue to continue to see problems what she say we continue to what needs to be like what disappointed what's disappointed what's disappointing. A shooting that's probably justified. Like, I don't even know what they're talking about. They're not, are they talking about Adam? Chief Adam Allen. I think that's his name. I hope they're not talking about him. Remember him? You tell fucking, you're, your sergeant, fucking, what's your name? Lona Dix? You tell her chief Adam fucking tells you, I'm part of being harassed by the Archfee.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Sir, where's it going for? Well, don't fucking go down to harass me. Sir, just return to you a big while come talk to him. A minute. Okay, just fucking leave us alone. Sir, we're gonna stop behind us like you're fucking watching us. Sir, return to your vehicle, I'll come back to you in a minute. Okay, you're fucking right. You fucking awful. Can't you. Fucking right I will. Fucking do it now.
Starting point is 00:07:11 You and I are gonna have a fucking problem right here and right to fucking call. You and I, come the fucking fuck. Come on. Come on. Come on. Hey! You hate bastard! Maybe they're talking about this. This guy here with his car door.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Okay. Okay. Do you know that cop is off duty? He's working administration duties, whatever that is now. And took his weapons away. Got him out of that community. Which is probably a great thing for him. But, man, the shit he's going to
Starting point is 00:08:28 pay. I guess it was a horrific, horrific thing. I don't even want to get into it. He's going to pay. And he's already paid a lot. But not enough, right guys? It's not enough. He pushed somebody over with a car door. What did the RCMP come out and say that he's going to be held accountable? Which tells me he's going to get charged with assault with a weapon. Some kid, 22-year-old, drunker than a skunk on a Monday night, who does that? That's alcoholism. that's what it is probably came from a broken family a rough childhood decides to at 1130 at night just wander onto the street like a fool like a jackass got pushes him over with his car door oh my god the world goes crazy maybe that's what she's talking about and so now there's an investigation on the cells
Starting point is 00:09:23 there's an investigation on pushing that 22 year old over with the car door i think they're going to throw the book at him make an example out of them, right? And whose fault is that? It's the cop's fault. Not the kid's fault. The kid came out under the media after and said, you know, he was really sad to see what happened and made him feel depressed.
Starting point is 00:09:47 He said he blanked out at that time. He has no memory of anything that night. He was drinking with a relative. And comes out to the media and said, you know, it was really sad to see that the police did that to him. And I'm thinking, are you fucking kidding me, man? why are you playing the victim? If that ever happened to me, I'd come out and I would say sorry to that cop.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I would say sorry to that entire detachment. I would apologize for my drunken behavior. There's no way I should have been outside breaking the law by causing a disturbance, being pissed out of your mind, drunk in a public place. But he's not held accountable. And I'm sure his family's sticking up for him. but nobody's talking about being wasted on a Monday night. That drunk, that pissed.
Starting point is 00:10:45 No, we're talking about Kamel's talking about those issues, I guess. They're scared to say the issues. They're scared to say examples. Have you noticed that? Have you noticed they don't, they just kind of just talk? You know, those issues, remember those terrible, you know, those issues that have been happening. Well, which ones? Thank you, Minister.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Sure. Some of the things that we've been looking at is are obviously updating our de-escalation. More de-escalation, guys. Get ready. Here we go. Sure. Some of the things that we've been looking at is obviously updating our de-escalation and crisis intervention training and making that training, recertifying that training annually. Oh, Lord. Every year you've got to certify for it now. and if you don't make it a mandatory yeah and if you don't if you miss it on that day and it's mandatory you can't work the next day because you you didn't have your de-escalation um renewal i'm sorry i'm not even i'm not even drunk i'm just uh this just cracks me up i've had a uh having a caesar
Starting point is 00:12:16 It just makes me laugh. I'm not a certify. I get a firearm every year. Your skills. And the second one is in response to calls to mental health or wellness calls. Response to mental health and wellness calls. Our response is amazing. She knows that.
Starting point is 00:12:42 What does that have to do with systemic racism? Mental health calls. Why don't we hear? Like she came up with 17 new things because of systemic racism. What does our... They need to work on our response to mental health calls. What a crock of shit. There's nobody better than the police de-escalate in a situation
Starting point is 00:13:07 and dealing with people who suffer from mental health. There's no, hands down, there's nobody, you would want a police officer in that situation every single time. I don't know how she can have a problem with the response to those checks. Man, we do, they do. Stop saying we. They do. Police do such a great job working with people that suffer from mental health. We're looking at anti-racism training mandatory. Notice how she said we're looking at anti-racism training and I'm sorry, but what the fuck is anti-racism training?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Have you ever heard of this? You need training to be an anti-racism. racist. They need training. Mandatory. Mandatory training. I got to rewind it. I just need to hear it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Oh, God. Sorry. Yeah. I would love to take that. I'm not saying I'm racist. I would love to see the questions. What would the questions be in this training when you wrote the test? There can't be a test.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Oh man, I'd love to be a part of that. She's not even getting it. We're thinking about it is what they're thinking about doing. Let's keep on going. How goofy. Like, this is so goofy. Is this not goofy times? Anti-racism training.
Starting point is 00:15:26 We're fixing something that doesn't even need to be fixed. It's creepy. But in the meantime, we have rolled out cultural and humility training and all senior managers have taken it. It's rolled out to all employees, and it will be mandatory for each and every. employee. Fuck is that cultural humility training. Oh man, I wish I could take that one. Agora, right.
Starting point is 00:15:49 More agora. Okay, we got one agora at least. No, yeah, one agora. Agora. Online, you do a little test. You got a boss breathing down you. Have you done it yet? Jaws, have you done it?
Starting point is 00:16:04 Have you done it yet? Have you done the course yet? And I'm like, no. Are you going to do it? Are you going to do it? Yeah, I'm going to do it. You got to get it done. You're over your diary date. You got to get a diary date extension. Anyways, they won't pay double time to come in and do it, but they expect you to do these courses while you're working.
Starting point is 00:16:21 There's so much a pain in the ass that nobody even does them. They skip to the test. I skipped to the test. That's what you would do. You would skip to the end and try to pass the test because these courses just took way too much time. If you really want to send members on a course, then you do what you used to do. You send them to Chilliwack PRTC training. You send them to a training course. I found a lot of those courses didn't do anything. I didn't need to. I already knew it all.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Why is she doing this? She's got to do something. She has to do something. She admitted to systemic racism. She can't give an example of it. And because she admitted to it, now she's stuck. She's literally stuck. So she overdosed to 17 new ways to battle systemic racism,
Starting point is 00:17:19 and we still don't know what it is because she doesn't know. Of course, you've heard of our rollout looking at body worn cameras. Ah, yes, body worn cameras. That's one of the initiatives to battle systemic racism because they'll stop being racist if they're wearing body worn cameras, maybe. Be careful with those camera guys. Some cop and Waukegan just got fired because he forgot to press the button.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So be careful when you take the training. I don't know what that means. You got to wear it, I guess. Three. We have established an office, an RCMP, Indigenous Co-development, collaboration, and accountability office. What?
Starting point is 00:18:16 RCMP co-collaborated. Co-c... What? What office? RC&P Indignoous Co-development Collaboration Accountability Indignous Collaboration Office. Wow. That sounds important, doesn't it? I wonder what they do.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I guess that's one way to battle it. What are they going to do? Office that will reach into the communities. They're going to reach into the communities. Of course, we're continuing to implement our national and divisional reconciliation strategies. we want to increase the use of restorative justice, especially with a focus on pre-charge restorative justice. Restorative justice.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm not going to say a whole lot about restorative justice. I don't know why she just said that. She's saying restorative justice. For people who don't know, that is you show up. Somebody's committed a criminal offense. They could go to jail for instead of going to jail in about a month or two months down the road. everybody sits down i sit down as a cop a bad guy and the victims and you all hash it out no charges never goes to court why is she bringing up restorative justice as an example of systemic racism
Starting point is 00:19:45 i don't get that is she saying that there's too many arrests i don't get it there needs to be less arrests don't arrest okay i don't get it i don't get it i don't get it Why does she think that police are arresting and charging too many indignuous peoples? Restorative justice is affixed systemic racism. She's talking out of her ass. She is. Restorative justice only works if you show up and bad guys never committed a crime before. Instead of giving them a criminal record, you hash it out with the victim.
Starting point is 00:20:46 That's what restorative justice is. And it always has to do with younger people. Are they saying that police... I don't know. I don't know. I don't get it. Talking out of her ass. Stupid.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Are you learning anything? Are you... I'm not. What is she talking about? I just love it when she talks, though. Still no example. It's funny. None of them in this meeting even understood what she was talking about how that combated
Starting point is 00:21:26 systemic racism. That's confusing. Got some fancy, dancy office and going to do some more restorative justice. And we need to de-escalate more because we're first to shoot, right? First to shoot, even though 99.9% of the time we don't use our tools or go hands-on. So there's an issue, there's a problem. And it's systemic. I got to get some beef jerky.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I love this guy. His name's Gary. And he just loves to make himself look important. Love it. I do think that one of the conversations I've had over the last several weeks is why is there one set of rules for people who are racialized, or indigenous, or black, and why is there another set of rules for others? And we saw that clearly in the way the RCMP handled the issue of the fisheries in Nova Scotia. See how they get away with that.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Clearly. He gets away with that kind of stupid question, that statement. nobody challenges them unbelievable why wouldn't the come oh man i wish i was commissioner what was it what was it what oh what do you think what is there once yes what are those well yeah clearly okay give me an example give me an example of that give me an example give me an example of what you're talking about clearly what's the evidence what was the evidence He won't say the evidence, right? And the commissioner won't go at him on this.
Starting point is 00:23:47 God, I wish I was commissioner. Nobody will challenge this guy for making such a goofy statement. He can't even give him an example. And he knows he's not going to be challenged. What's his question? Madam Commissioner, we need a direct action plan. I know you've outlined several things that the RCMP is doing. Several things that don't make any sense, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Game changer. When can we expect direct and concrete action on racism? When you give in an example, Big Daddy, that's when, but he's not going to. I know why RCMP members have a problem with the commissioner, but I don't understand what these guys have a problem. Why do they have a problem with her? Why are they upset? I mean, she's a pigeon man.
Starting point is 00:24:48 She's doing everything that they want. and come up with 17 fake examples for systemic racism she's working her ass off for them and i don't know why they got they got a problem with her some kind of lobster dispute they didn't like a response fuck off we don't give a flying fuck if you like the response or not there's nothing racist at all going on at the lobster dispute you can't even come out up with an example you don't even know I don't know. I don't get it. I don't know why they're against her. I think these people and this committee just wants something, it makes them look important if they, if they're mad and angry and think people should resign and they're doing their job.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Because there's no way, I just don't, there's no, this is what you want. For them, this is the RCMP commissioner. They want. So I don't know why they're complaining about her. It's fake. It's funny. They're not mad at her. They can't be mad at her. They can't be mad at her just because she can't define systemic racism in the RCMP. You can't get mad at that. You get mad at her for lying about it, but you can't get mad at her for that because it doesn't exist. Nobody can define it. Nobody to define it.
Starting point is 00:26:11 I don't get it. Fishing, right? Fishing. This whole system is fissue. Systemically fishy. What are you going to say? Looking at our organization as a whole, and we're looking at those systems. and those processes.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Those systems and those processes. Hmm? Which ones? Which systems? Which processes? Nobody knows. And nobody asks. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:47 She doesn't even confront. There's no confronting. Like that guy got away with that statement about racism in lobster dispute. Those policies and procedures that will. eliminate systemic racism, including, which I haven't mentioned yet, our whole recruiting process. We're looking at the way in which we recruit. We want to make sure that we are, in fact, reflective of the communities that we serve. And so we want to make sure our proactive recruiters are reflective of that. And within our systems that, within the recruiting systems,
Starting point is 00:27:26 we get bringing the right people. Oh, she's feeding you a line of bullshit. guys bring in the right people right bring in the right people because we've been bringing in the wrong people every single person that became a cop that was wrong that was a mistake because you're all racist so we got to start bringing the non-racist people in this part i'm confused about do you become racist while you're a cop is that when you become racist or do you be are you already you're racist before you even join Like, when do you become racist? It was March 11th was my first day at Depot.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But I was at Depot on March 10th. When I showed up to Deppo was I, I wasn't racist. When did I become racist? March 10th, I wasn't. Did I become racist on March 11th? Is that when it starts? Which system? Which one?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Not going to give you an example, is he? No. Bad results for indigenous people. Criminal justice system. them. They have bad results. What a statement, right? But doesn't explain himself. Just bad results, guys. What does that mean? Maybe they're good results. What are bad results? What does bad results mean? What does that mean? This is how they talk. It's unbelievable. Idiot. What is the major problem? Nobody will talk about the major. Well, systemic racism, right? Figure that one else.
Starting point is 00:29:33 What does that mean? We don't know. We're not going to give you any examples. We don't we don't understand ourselves. There's a couple of things that come to mind obviously and I just found this I meant I missed it. I came down here and I forgot where I was and because I grab some more wings and wow. See this shit is a big deal when she just kind of throws it out there nobody if I was there I'd say there's a couple of things what are those things
Starting point is 00:30:17 let's hear there's a couple of things that come to mind but I'm not going to tell you oh these sneaky little pricks lucky what two things she's listening and learning yeah we've already went through all this
Starting point is 00:30:50 oh tons of groups oh leaders And what did they tell you? Stop systemic racism, no example. Yeah, let's stop this. Anyways, guys, obviously I'm not using any of this. Had some wings down here, a couple of drinks. Got away, it was nice to using any of this.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I've been on here for two hours. And I don't see myself even putting out three minutes. Well, maybe I might have nine minutes in there. But the, I wish I could just come on here and I'd even worry about editing and just do it for two hours and just post that two hours. If I do use it, thank you for watching. Call my hotline number 604-3302512. Subscribe. And have a great day.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Have a great day. Bye-bye.

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