Clinton Jaws - RCMP Racist Training
Episode Date: November 13, 2020The RCMP will soon be teaching members RCMP racist training. Police podcast. Former cop talks about (podcast) the RCMP Commissioner trying to provide 17 examples of systemic racism to government big w...igs. SECU Meeting. full videos of chief adam and Nunavut video can be seen at youtube channel "Jaws Raw Police Bodycam." Call the hotline number at 604-330-2512 https://www.clintonjaws.com/
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Hey guys, Clint here.
Let's watch this together.
Something to do.
How in the face of a lack of confidence by them can they expect you to deal effectively with that within the police force?
Have you learned anything more about systemic racism since your last appearance before this committee?
And how can we in the public also expect that you can be an effective leader in dealing with this problem?
Thank you very much for your question.
You know, as I shared with my management team, when I talk about systemic racism in the RCMP, obviously, I've learned a lot since...
She's learned a lot about systemic racism.
There's two hours of this stuff, guys.
And she's at one of those standing committees.
You know those committees?
Meetings.
And she's going to talk a lot about systemic racism here, and she's learned a lot.
Maybe we will hear a definition.
finally tonight, a definition of systemic racism.
Here we go.
Time. I've been listening. I've been learning. I've been consulting with all kinds of groups,
including indigenous leaders such as the former MMIWG Commissioner, Marion Buller.
Okay, who the hell is that? M.M.M. I, M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M. M.
She's consulted with these groups.
So it's kind of important.
You can't just laxadaisi say things and not expect anybody to talk about it.
Let's just keep it going.
What other groups?
The AFN National Chief, Senator Murray Sinclair, the...
Yeah, exactly.
Native Women's Association of Canada, the Inuit Women's Association.
Can I ask you directly, though, how do you intend to be able to fix it, given the fact that there's a lack of confidence in you as a result of the statements by the indigenous leaders?
There's a lack of confidence because what Lucky did was she said, a fib.
She told everybody that there's absolutely systemic racism in the RCMP.
We know any RCMP member knows that that's not true.
It's a lie.
It's false.
there's no systemic racism in the RCMP.
But she's having, they have lack of confidence in her because she said there was racism.
But she has yet to give in an example.
He's deep down, she knows there really isn't systemic racism in the RCMP.
But she says she's learned, she's listened, maybe she's got some examples of systemic racism tonight.
Yes, in the days and weeks following that appearance, I led the debate.
development of an action plan to address systemic racism.
We are going to hear this action plan.
She's developed.
This is the first time I've watched, I'm watching it, by the way.
I might have already said that, but because I wanted to, I don't know, I was upstairs.
And we're in November, right?
It's a little bit boring in November.
You know, things are starting to get, you know, a little, you know.
And I'm up as, I'm upstairs and I'm just thinking, you know what, maybe I'll just come down.
here. Hit record and watch Lucky. Let's try to explain herself. And that's where we are. And she's
got an action plan. So let's hear it. And the plan has been developed in cooperation with the range
of stakeholders that I mentioned. And we have a total of 17 initiatives. Uh, what? 17. 17.
Holy shit.
That means there's going to be 17 examples of systemic racism.
She's done it.
She's figured it out.
She knows the definition.
And we're going to hear some examples.
Come on, Lucky.
That have been under development and are being implemented.
Are you prepared to make that public?
Does it have timelines and targets?
And is that something that is of practical,
effectiveness and can you make that public?
Absolutely. It's on our website as we speak at www.
rcmp.com and all the initiatives so far
are put on there. No it isn't. No, no, you're wrong and it's not
dot com, okay? It's dotCA. Rcmp.com doesn't exist.
RCMP for everybody who want. Rcmp.c.m.
That's the website. She forgot. She's in Canada.
That's easy to forget.
But yeah, so I went to rcmp.ca and I didn't see any initiatives.
I spent about 10 minutes on it.
Nothing popped up.
Couldn't find it.
Maybe it's there.
But I don't think it is.
But I'm probably wrong.
Okay.
Within the RCMP and you certainly acknowledge that there is systemic racism within the RCMP
and there are things that needed to be addressed.
And yet we continue to see disappointing situations.
involving RCMP's involvement with indigenous communities what problems is she talking about what what problems what problems are there are there problems there I'm talking now but what problems we continue to continue to see problems what she say we continue to what needs to be like what disappointed what's disappointed what's
disappointing. A shooting that's probably justified. Like, I don't even know what they're talking about.
They're not, are they talking about Adam? Chief Adam Allen. I think that's his name.
I hope they're not talking about him. Remember him?
You tell fucking, you're, your sergeant, fucking, what's your name? Lona Dix? You tell her chief
Adam fucking tells you, I'm part of being harassed by the Archfee.
Sir, where's it going for?
Well, don't fucking go down to harass me.
Sir, just return to you a big while come talk to him.
A minute. Okay, just fucking leave us alone. Sir, we're gonna stop behind us like you're fucking watching us.
Sir, return to your vehicle, I'll come back to you in a minute. Okay, you're fucking right.
You fucking awful.
Can't you. Fucking right I will.
Fucking do it now.
You and I are gonna have a fucking problem right here and right to fucking call.
You and I, come the fucking fuck.
Come on. Come on.
Come on.
Hey!
You hate bastard!
Maybe they're talking about this.
This guy here with his car door.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you know that cop is off duty?
He's working administration duties, whatever that is now.
And took his weapons away.
Got him out of that community.
Which is probably a great thing for him.
But, man, the shit he's going to
pay. I guess it was a horrific, horrific thing. I don't even want to get into it. He's going to pay.
And he's already paid a lot. But not enough, right guys? It's not enough. He pushed somebody over with a
car door. What did the RCMP come out and say that he's going to be held accountable?
Which tells me he's going to get charged with assault with a weapon. Some kid, 22-year-old,
drunker than a skunk on a Monday night, who does that? That's alcoholism.
that's what it is probably came from a broken family a rough childhood decides to at 1130 at night just wander
onto the street like a fool like a jackass got pushes him over with his car door oh my god the world
goes crazy maybe that's what she's talking about and so now there's an investigation on the cells
there's an investigation on pushing that 22 year old over with the car door i think they're going to
throw the book at him make an example
out of them, right?
And whose fault is that?
It's the cop's fault.
Not the kid's fault.
The kid came out under the media after and said, you know, he was really sad to see what happened
and made him feel depressed.
He said he blanked out at that time.
He has no memory of anything that night.
He was drinking with a relative.
And comes out to the media and said, you know, it was really sad to see that the police
did that to him.
And I'm thinking, are you fucking kidding me, man?
why are you playing the victim?
If that ever happened to me, I'd come out and I would say sorry to that cop.
I would say sorry to that entire detachment.
I would apologize for my drunken behavior.
There's no way I should have been outside breaking the law by causing a disturbance,
being pissed out of your mind, drunk in a public place.
But he's not held accountable.
And I'm sure his family's sticking up for him.
but nobody's talking about being wasted on a Monday night.
That drunk, that pissed.
No, we're talking about Kamel's talking about those issues, I guess.
They're scared to say the issues.
They're scared to say examples.
Have you noticed that?
Have you noticed they don't, they just kind of just talk?
You know, those issues, remember those terrible, you know, those issues that have been happening.
Well, which ones?
Thank you, Minister.
Sure. Some of the things that we've been looking at is are obviously updating our de-escalation.
More de-escalation, guys. Get ready. Here we go.
Sure. Some of the things that we've been looking at is obviously updating our de-escalation and crisis intervention training
and making that training, recertifying that training annually.
Oh, Lord. Every year you've got to certify for it now.
and if you don't make it a mandatory yeah and if you don't if you miss it on that day and it's mandatory
you can't work the next day because you you didn't have your de-escalation um renewal
i'm sorry i'm not even i'm not even drunk i'm just uh this just cracks me up i've had a uh having a caesar
It just makes me laugh.
I'm not a certify.
I get a firearm every year.
Your skills.
And the second one is in response to calls to mental health or wellness calls.
Response to mental health and wellness calls.
Our response is amazing.
She knows that.
What does that have to do with systemic racism?
Mental health calls.
Why don't we hear?
Like she came up with 17 new things because of systemic racism.
What does our...
They need to work on our response to mental health calls.
What a crock of shit.
There's nobody better than the police de-escalate in a situation
and dealing with people who suffer from mental health.
There's no, hands down, there's nobody,
you would want a police officer in that situation every single time.
I don't know how she can have a problem with the response to those checks.
Man, we do, they do.
Stop saying we. They do. Police do such a great job working with people that suffer from mental health.
We're looking at anti-racism training mandatory.
Notice how she said we're looking at anti-racism training and I'm sorry, but what the fuck is anti-racism training?
Have you ever heard of this? You need training to be an anti-racism.
racist.
They need training.
Mandatory.
Mandatory training.
I got to rewind it.
I just need to hear it again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, God.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I would love to take that.
I'm not saying I'm racist.
I would love to see the questions.
What would the questions be in this training when you wrote the test?
There can't be a test.
Oh man, I'd love to be a part of that.
She's not even getting it.
We're thinking about it is what they're thinking about doing.
Let's keep on going.
How goofy.
Like, this is so goofy.
Is this not goofy times?
Anti-racism training.
We're fixing something that doesn't even need to be fixed.
It's creepy.
But in the meantime, we have rolled out cultural and humility training and all senior managers have taken it.
It's rolled out to all employees, and it will be mandatory for each and every.
employee.
Fuck is that cultural humility training.
Oh man, I wish I could take that one.
Agora, right.
More agora.
Okay, we got one agora at least.
No, yeah, one agora.
Agora.
Online, you do a little test.
You got a boss breathing down you.
Have you done it yet?
Jaws, have you done it?
Have you done it yet?
Have you done the course yet?
And I'm like, no.
Are you going to do it?
Are you going to do it?
Yeah, I'm going to do it.
You got to get it done. You're over your diary date. You got to get a diary date extension.
Anyways, they won't pay double time to come in and do it, but they expect you to do these courses while you're working.
There's so much a pain in the ass that nobody even does them. They skip to the test. I skipped to the test. That's what you would do.
You would skip to the end and try to pass the test because these courses just took way too much time.
If you really want to send members on a course, then you do what you used to do.
You send them to Chilliwack PRTC training.
You send them to a training course.
I found a lot of those courses didn't do anything.
I didn't need to.
I already knew it all.
Why is she doing this?
She's got to do something.
She has to do something.
She admitted to systemic racism.
She can't give an example of it.
And because she admitted to it, now she's stuck.
She's literally stuck.
So she overdosed to 17 new ways to battle systemic racism,
and we still don't know what it is because she doesn't know.
Of course, you've heard of our rollout looking at body worn cameras.
Ah, yes, body worn cameras.
That's one of the initiatives to battle systemic racism
because they'll stop being racist if they're wearing body worn cameras, maybe.
Be careful with those camera guys.
Some cop and Waukegan just got fired
because he forgot to press the button.
So be careful when you take the training.
I don't know what that means.
You got to wear it, I guess.
Three.
We have established an office,
an RCMP, Indigenous Co-development,
collaboration, and accountability office.
What?
RCMP co-collaborated.
Co-c...
What?
What office?
RC&P Indignoous Co-development Collaboration Accountability Indignous Collaboration Office.
Wow.
That sounds important, doesn't it?
I wonder what they do.
I guess that's one way to battle it.
What are they going to do?
Office that will reach into the communities.
They're going to reach into the communities.
Of course, we're continuing to implement our national and divisional reconciliation strategies.
we want to increase the use of restorative justice,
especially with a focus on pre-charge restorative justice.
Restorative justice.
I'm not going to say a whole lot about restorative justice.
I don't know why she just said that.
She's saying restorative justice.
For people who don't know, that is you show up.
Somebody's committed a criminal offense.
They could go to jail for instead of going to jail in about a month or two months down the road.
everybody sits down i sit down as a cop a bad guy and the victims and you all hash it out no charges
never goes to court why is she bringing up restorative justice as an example of systemic racism
i don't get that is she saying that there's too many arrests i don't get it there needs to be
less arrests don't arrest okay i don't get it i don't get it i don't get it
Why does she think that police are arresting and charging too many indignuous peoples?
Restorative justice is affixed systemic racism.
She's talking out of her ass.
She is.
Restorative justice only works if you show up and bad guys never committed a crime before.
Instead of giving them a criminal record, you hash it out with the victim.
That's what restorative justice is.
And it always has to do with younger people.
Are they saying that police...
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't get it.
Talking out of her ass.
Stupid.
Are you learning anything?
Are you...
I'm not.
What is she talking about?
I just love it when she talks, though.
Still no example.
It's funny.
None of them in this meeting even understood what she was talking about how that combated
systemic racism.
That's confusing.
Got some fancy, dancy office and going to do some more restorative justice.
And we need to de-escalate more because we're first to shoot, right?
First to shoot, even though 99.9% of the time we don't use our tools or go hands-on.
So there's an issue, there's a problem.
And it's systemic.
I got to get some beef jerky.
I love this guy.
His name's Gary.
And he just loves to make himself look important.
Love it.
I do think that one of the conversations I've had over the last several weeks is why is there one set of rules for people who are racialized,
or indigenous, or black, and why is there another set of rules for others?
And we saw that clearly in the way the RCMP handled the issue of the fisheries in Nova Scotia.
See how they get away with that.
Clearly.
He gets away with that kind of stupid question, that statement.
nobody challenges them unbelievable why wouldn't the come oh man i wish i was commissioner
what was it what was it what oh what do you think what is there once yes what are those
well yeah clearly okay give me an example give me an example of that give me an example
give me an example of what you're talking about clearly what's the evidence what was the evidence
He won't say the evidence, right?
And the commissioner won't go at him on this.
God, I wish I was commissioner.
Nobody will challenge this guy for making such a goofy statement.
He can't even give him an example.
And he knows he's not going to be challenged.
What's his question?
Madam Commissioner, we need a direct action plan.
I know you've outlined several things that the RCMP is doing.
Several things that don't make any sense, yeah.
Game changer.
When can we expect direct and concrete action on racism?
When you give in an example, Big Daddy, that's when, but he's not going to.
I know why RCMP members have a problem with the commissioner,
but I don't understand what these guys have a problem.
Why do they have a problem with her?
Why are they upset?
I mean, she's a pigeon man.
She's doing everything that they want.
and come up with 17 fake examples for systemic racism she's working her ass off for them and i don't know
why they got they got a problem with her some kind of lobster dispute they didn't like a response
fuck off we don't give a flying fuck if you like the response or not there's nothing racist at all
going on at the lobster dispute you can't even come out up with an example you don't even know
I don't know. I don't get it. I don't know why they're against her.
I think these people and this committee just wants something, it makes them look important if they,
if they're mad and angry and think people should resign and they're doing their job.
Because there's no way, I just don't, there's no, this is what you want.
For them, this is the RCMP commissioner. They want. So I don't know why they're complaining about her.
It's fake. It's funny. They're not mad at her. They can't be mad at her.
They can't be mad at her just because she can't define systemic racism in the RCMP.
You can't get mad at that.
You get mad at her for lying about it, but you can't get mad at her for that because it doesn't exist.
Nobody can define it.
Nobody to define it.
I don't get it.
Fishing, right?
Fishing.
This whole system is fissue.
Systemically fishy.
What are you going to say?
Looking at our organization as a whole, and we're looking at those systems.
and those processes.
Those systems and those processes.
Hmm?
Which ones?
Which systems?
Which processes?
Nobody knows.
And nobody asks.
Amazing.
She doesn't even confront.
There's no confronting.
Like that guy got away with that statement about racism in lobster dispute.
Those policies and procedures that will.
eliminate systemic racism, including, which I haven't mentioned yet, our whole recruiting process.
We're looking at the way in which we recruit. We want to make sure that we are, in fact,
reflective of the communities that we serve. And so we want to make sure our proactive recruiters
are reflective of that. And within our systems that, within the recruiting systems,
we get bringing the right people. Oh, she's feeding you a line of bullshit.
guys bring in the right people right bring in the right people because we've been bringing in the wrong
people every single person that became a cop that was wrong that was a mistake because you're all
racist so we got to start bringing the non-racist people in this part i'm confused about do you
become racist while you're a cop is that when you become racist or do you be are you already
you're racist before you even join
Like, when do you become racist?
It was March 11th was my first day at Depot.
But I was at Depot on March 10th.
When I showed up to Deppo was I, I wasn't racist.
When did I become racist?
March 10th, I wasn't.
Did I become racist on March 11th?
Is that when it starts?
Which system?
Which one?
Not going to give you an example, is he?
No.
Bad results for indigenous people.
Criminal justice system.
them. They have bad results. What a statement, right? But doesn't explain himself. Just bad results,
guys. What does that mean? Maybe they're good results. What are bad results? What does bad results mean?
What does that mean? This is how they talk. It's unbelievable. Idiot. What is the major
problem? Nobody will talk about the major. Well, systemic racism, right? Figure that one else.
What does that mean? We don't know. We're not going to give you any examples. We don't we don't understand ourselves.
There's a couple of things that come to mind obviously and I just found this I meant I missed it. I came down here and I forgot where I was and
because I grab some more wings and wow. See this shit is a big deal
when she just kind of throws it out there
nobody
if I was there I'd say
there's a couple of things
what are those things
let's hear
there's a couple of things
that come to mind
but I'm not going to tell you
oh these sneaky little pricks
lucky what two things
she's listening and learning
yeah we've already went through all this
oh tons of groups
oh leaders
And what did they tell you?
Stop systemic racism, no example.
Yeah, let's stop this.
Anyways, guys, obviously I'm not using any of this.
Had some wings down here, a couple of drinks.
Got away, it was nice to using any of this.
I've been on here for two hours.
And I don't see myself even putting out three minutes.
Well, maybe I might have nine minutes in there.
But the, I wish I could just come on here and I'd even worry about editing and just do it for two hours and just post that two hours.
If I do use it, thank you for watching.
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And have a great day.
Have a great day.
Bye-bye.
