Clinton Jaws - RCMP vs Police

Episode Date: August 12, 2020

Former RCMP officer explains some of the differences of being a RCMP cop or a City Cop. Why is the RCMP better? Why is being a City cop better. RCMP vs Police I also talk about my dog and my neighbors. Both neighbors hate me and one wanted to fight me. When you go to Depot do not cut your hair. #rcmp #bootcamp #police https://www.clintonjaws.com/

Hey guys, Clint here again. Talking about stuff, cop stuff, usually. Sometimes other things. How you doing tonight? It is the night. It's not morning. My parents said the other day, do you really have to drink in the morning?

I'm like, it wasn't morning? Not drinking in the morning? Just having a beer. That's all I'm doing. I want to talk to you about something. Well, I want to talk to you about the day. difference between if you're an applicant okay this is not a thing for just applicants I also want people who are at who aren't applicants to hear this if you're an applicant and you're like

how I was 25 years ago I was like what do I want to become do I want to become an RCMP member or do I want to become a city cop which one do I choose I'm going to tell you some of the differences that were important to me, that might be important to you. First, I want to warm up. I want to talk about my morning. I want to talk about my morning. I love mornings.

I love waking up in the morning. I'm going to try that. I love waking up in the morning. There's nothing better than waking up in the morning and starting the day. I woke up this morning and there was no eggs. I wanted to make a breakfast for the kids and the family. There's no eggs.

And I don't smoke, but there was no cigarettes for them. They were all out of cigarettes. They just took up this habit. I would never smoke. Okay? I don't smoke. Okay. How about this?

If I smoked, I'd never admit to you that I smoked. So I went to the store and got a pack of smokes for my 10-year-old, 7-year-old. And a carton of eggs. Down, we're out the lake right now? A pack of smokes, carton of eggs, $24. I come back and, you know, my kids enjoyed a pot of coffee and a pack of smoke. A few cigarettes. I didn't finish the pack, but.

And they sucked on some hard-boiled eggs and it was a good morning. It was a good morning. Then the wife starts, you know, I'm sitting outside watching my kids smoking cigarettes. And I hear the neighbor yell out. Get out of here You get moving Get out of here And I'm like, oh shit

Just felt weird without these, okay? I'm like, is my dog over there? We have a little dog, okay? His name's Friday. Is my dog over there? So I yell over. Is Friday over there? I'm like, hear him.

Like, holy fuck, what the fuck is my dog doing? I'm like, is my dog over there? Yeah, Clint, he's over here sniffing the flowers. I told my wife this and she says to me, did you apologize? I said, no. I'm not going to apologize for my dog sniffing flowers. Okay.

People are so uptight right now. I just can't believe it. Like, what the fuck? How can you be upset? I think it's a beautiful thing. A dog sniffing flowers. Why would you get upset at that? these are crazy times right now.

People are, it seems to me that people are really uptight and pretty intense. And the puppy, it's a puppy. He's not even a year old. Not even a year old. And he's like this big. Okay. We're outside in the back, back of the lake thingy. And my dog takes off down the road, stops halfway.

And he starts barking at a guy walking his dog. It's a German ship. Yeah, it's a German. Shepard. It's a police dog. It's like a police dog times two. This dog is huge. And so I run over. I'm like, oh, I'm going to grab my little dog. You come here Friday. And now, the guy's mad. You could see he's visibly upset. And he kind of like does the, well, I should let my dog go and see what happens. I'm like, are you mad? You're mad at this? You should have him on a leash. I'm like, dude, he's just a little puppy, okay? He's not even a year.

matter. You put him on a leash. And I'm like, oh, you scared you. I shouldn't have done it, but I'm like, you scared you. We don't, we don't puppy. W. You're just, what you scared of? A little puppy going to come get you. He flips out. Flips out, starts yelling at me, wants to fight me. And I'm like, I'm not going to fight him. He's huge. But that's not the point. I'm not going to fight him. Because that'd be silly, right? And I'm like, man, you want, like, do you actually, want to fight? Yeah. Come here. Come on. It reminded me of that Chief

Ellen Adam video. You know, come on. I'm right here. And this guy starts saying, I'm right here. I'm over here. And I'm like, uh, maybe later, not right now. You pussy. Seriously, I'm not even exaggerating. And he's my neighbor.

Like a door and a half down. Because of my little puppy. Like, wow. Wow, I'm not even to tell you the other things that happen on the dock. There's some, I met a Karen on the dock. There's some crazy, people are just, okay, let's just stop talking about that. Was that all I wanted to say about the morning? That wasn't my morning.

No, okay, well, that last part wasn't my morning, but let's, okay, let's talk about the difference between RCMP and police. City police in particular, let's use, they're basically all the same, aren't they? City police? You work for the city? Let's use Vancouver as some sort of example. How about that? Ruffle some papers here.

Okay, let's talk about point number one. Comes to the RCMP, city police. You become a city police, you can't move. That is a big deal. RCMP, you can move. sometimes you can stay

sometimes you can move or sometimes you have to move they force you out let's say you really wanted to leave the RCMP you could basically move okay long story short you can basically move you can do anything you want you become a city cop

you can't move and that kind of sucks because sometimes you work with a big dick or sometimes you're boss is a big dick, right? How do you get rid of that? How do you get away from that big dick, right? You can't get, you can't get away with that big dick. You have to wait. You have to wait for that

big dick to retire. That could be a lot of years down the road. If you work for the RCMP, you can move away from that big dick. I hated big dicks. I worked with a lot of them. Mostly, I worked with small decks. That didn't sound right. I worked with, uh, I worked with a lot of dicks. And sometimes you're working. And it's just nice to think, maybe I'll work somewhere else. And you can make that happen in the RC. Kind of.

I shouldn't tell this story. It's way too long. They don't always move you. When I was in Duncan, I, okay, when I was in Duncan, I was about four years in, members there had over 10 years. They were senior constables. I learned from the best at the beginning of my career, and that's why I became good towards the end. It doesn't matter.

I learned from the best in my career because of those members that had so much experience. Staffing came in, they kicked them all out. Anybody that had eight, nine, ten years experience had to move away from the detachment. A lot of them had to move away from the island. They forced them out. Sometimes they go on this weird kick where they think in their head they got to do that. A lot of times it'd be 15, 20 years down the road and they won't do anything. It would be a big long stretch.

Work with members that had 15 years at the same detachment. There's also sometimes where you can't move. You call up staff and you're like, hey, I'm a releaseable. I want to go. And there's like, no, you can't go. We're going to keep you here for a while. Why? Well, a lot of times you can't move.

When I worked a mission, I wanted to move. I wanted to go to Port Al-Burney. That's what I wanted. Port Al-Burney is not a desirable place. According to them, I know it is. It's got a lake. It's got a canal. It's got fishing.

Probably the best lake in the entire, all of Canada, at least. It's a great place. But when you look at McLean's magazine, it's like rank number one, like shithole. Shithole everything. And that's not a place to be. So I know, I know, okay, my point is I know members who are in recruiting do not want, or sorry, are in depot, do not want to come to Port Albarnie. And if they do, they, well, if they do, they'll see how great it is. So I call up staffing. I want to go to Port

Al Berni. They say, no, no, Port Al Burney's desirable, Clint. I'm like, fuck. You know, nobody thinks that. I think it. I'm the only one in the police force. But nobody's He's lying to me. And I'm like, what the fuck? Okay, what do I do? It's 20, I forget the year. But my baby's born. And I go, I take Matt leave.

Pat leave. I took Pat leave. My staff sergeant was really mad at me. Like, what am I going to do now? You're going to just take off now and have a baby for nine months? Because you're allowed to, you get paid if you take Pat leave. And he was really upset with me. Anyways, that's another story for another day.

So I take Pat leave. And I'm like, how do I get to Port Alberti? long story short I move myself to Port El Burney okay I rent out my house

in Abbotsford I got a 40 foot motorhome I call up I call up staffing I buy a house in Port El Burney and I said

hey yeah I got I shouldn't be talking about this I call up staffing I say I don't I no longer live in mission I now live in Port Alberney

so if you move me to Port Al Burney it's not going to cost you 30, 40, 50 grand. I'm going to pay for all that because I'm a no-cost transfer now. And staffing was really mad at me. Well, we don't encourage that. And I said, I'm not asking for your encouragement. This is a fact.

He was really mad at me. Because I didn't break a rule or anything. I just tied their hands saying that if you need a cop in Port-au-Burney, I got to be the next guy. piece that's not going to cost the RCMP taxpayers anything it's not going to cost you 40 grand to move me I did it I moved myself so for a year I parked my 40 foot motor home at the speedway admission and lived out of it for a year and it broke us to death why am I telling the story anyways it broke us to death and it was about 13 months in of doing this I'd catch the ferry okay back and forth

And finally I said to the wife, I can't do it anymore. And that very moment, like we're going to retake our home back in Abbotsford. But at that very minute, they said, okay, you can go Port-up Barney. Cost us everything we had, but we did it. My point is, sometimes it's hard to move to where you want when you're with the RCMP. What also sucks is you could be at Depot and you find out where you're, you're going to get. They told me Duncan. I wanted the island, Vancouver Island. I was extremely happy. One of my best friends in Depo at the time, what did he get? Prince Rupert. And he takes me outside.

Clint, can I talk to you for a second? And he starts crying about Prince Rupert. I always got to go to Prince Rupert and he's upset because his girlfriend, he thinks his girlfriend's going to leave him. I'm like, dude, that's never going to happen, man. She loves you. She left him, of course. And he goes to Prince Rupert. So you can go anywhere in Canada technically. Most likely you're going to, if you're from BC, you're going to come back to BC.

But most likely that's what's going to happen. But you technically can go anywhere in Canada. If I wanted to work in Victoria, well, I would apply at Victoria Police Department, right? You want to work in Vancouver? Abbotsford, that's where you're going to do. That's where you're going to work. I like the option of being able to move. Things get shitty. You don't want to see shitty the shitty assholes anymore, so you get to move. So you move. You become a city cop, Vancouver cop. You're not moving. Could you imagine getting hired at, say you go to North, you have to go to this place.

and you have to spend your entire career, right? Because that's what it is. So you've got to go to North Vancouver. Can you imagine? Having to fucking work at North Vancouver for the rest of your life? How can you afford that, right? So I like the option of being able to report Hardy. Well, you're going to Port Hardy, Clint?

You got to raise your kids there? Until you die? Not putting down Port Hardy, but it's not exactly a lot. are Gibson's? How about Gibson's? You're at Gibson's? And it takes two ferries to get back to Vancouver Island, could you imagine? Point is, it's nice to have the option. That was point one. Number two, short and easy. RCP has a lot of sanctions. You can move around. Fairly easy if you put your mind to it and you know how to write a good resume. You can move around, you get out of GD, you go into community policing, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. You're with one organization, like a City police station, kind of tough to move around. You can, RCP can move around anywhere. You could go to Surrey. You can go to Langley and become a community police officer, anything you want.

You can go to Chilliwack. It's endless and do something different. You work in Abbotsford? You're competing with all the same people to get the same job. I'm going to stop numbering things because that's just, look silly. I hate it when people do this. that. Number one. Number two. Next thing. How about that? What is the next thing? Oh, yeah.

Perat test. R-C-MP do the parat test. Vancouver does the pull-pat. Oh, fuck, I'm going to get in shit for this. It is harder to pass their physical test, the city police. They got a obstacle course like the parat test, but you have to jump over a six-foot mat. Right? Six feet? Six foot mat. Six foot. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Six foot. It's a mat that is...

How many foot? That's right. She finally got it right. That's the pole pad, okay? Even though she was talking about the pair test. That's the pole pat. Six foot mat. And according to the RCMP commissioner, the six foot mat is racist. No word about why. She thinks it's racist to have a six-foot mat.

Even though my 10-year-old can jump over the six-foot mat, she says that people that are six feet can only jump over a six-foot mat. Basically, you could only jump however high you are. That's the distance that you could jump. You also have to do a shuttle run. Okay. This brings me to my next point. I don't know if I should say it. Another big difference between the RCMP and police.

the city police. They're better looking. City police are better looking. Okay? So if you're into that, they have to be. I mean, fuck. Doing all that physical shit in the beginning?

You got to get 415 on the POPAT, the Pair test. Sometimes I think that the RCP would take anybody. Now, how desperate must they be? They haven't had a raise in, I don't know how long. They used to be top three. You know what they are now? I look not too long ago.

125. There's only like 135 police outfits in Canada, I think. But 125, you're making 30 grand more in Vancouver. Take a little, whatever. I might be off just a bit, but 30 grand more. It's a difference between an A Datsun and a Tesla. 30 grand more. And that's just Vancouver. And I don't even know what they're on the list. They're like probably 20 or something. RCMP used to be, there used to be a thing when I first started. Top three.

That's what's so great about working for the RCMP. They were always going to be the top three. Now they're 125. How are they going to get cops? How are people going to, like that seems like a pretty big deal to me. A kid sitting around what I want to do. Me, and when I was sitting around, I just wanted to become a cop. I didn't care who I worked for.

Harder to become a city cop, I think. But could you imagine now? Oh, 30 grand less? Why would you? Depot shut down right now. I don't even, like, they need cops so bad. They're a CEP need cops so bad. And you can't live in North Vancouver being a cop.

You can't. it's uh they're not even keeping up to the cost of milk anyways my point is they're better looking and uh maybe guys and girls okay so i'm not just talking about girls but they're way better looking i hope my wife is not listening to this i uh i think part of the reason is i'll take my troop for example i had nine girls in there i think when we got there they all cut their hair off. I'm just saying a fact, okay? They got boy haircuts.

I don't think the city police are doing that. They're not cutting their hair. The city girls are not cutting their hair. Anyways. Just the fact. Don't get upset with me over a fact. Going to be hard for RCMP to recruit people when the boss came out and said, every cop is racist in the RCMP. Systemic.

We've got a systemic. issue here. You're going to make $30,000 less. We're all racist. But come on over. Come on over. Even the true dose says, yes, we're all racist. Come on over. No, come on over. It's fun. It's fun over here. You're going to love me. Overworked. Can't get holidays. I don't know, just some things that need to change. Isn't it interesting? The van. Vancouver police chief came out and said, no, there is no systemic racism in my department. And I'm offended that anybody would even suggest that they're systemic. That's offensive to me.

That's what he said. Wouldn't it be amazing if the commissioner actually told the truth? Like told the truth. Why not tell the truth? You know you're lying. You know you are. I don't even know you sleep. Another difference, the uniforms.

City police have better uniforms. Absolutely. Hands down. RC&P have a yellow stripe up their pant leg. Can you believe there's still a yellow stripe? Still a yellow stripe. Up both legs. In this day and age, we have reflectors.

They have reflectors off their pants. I know it's tradition. I'm going to tell this story. I'm in Langley. I'm in Langley. We take a position. There's about 16 cops that take positions. We're containing an area with two people that have guns.

Okay? They're walking around. They've got guns. Sorry about that. So I show up to my area. I'm like, fuck, where am I going to take cover? Because you want to take cover, right? So I find this tree, this thin tree.

And I take care of. I take cover and I got my gun out. Got it out and I'm just waiting for the... I'm hoping the bad guys don't show up. And I look down and my legs are like flickering in the moonlight. My yellow stripes down each side of... And I can't hide them. I can't hide the stripe.

So there's a difference, the uniforms. Might be small to you, but I like city police uniforms. I even got a call. that night? I swear to God. I got the gun out and my phone kept on vibrating. I kept on shutting it off. It's in my pocket. I kept on shutting it off. Finally, I got angry and I answered it like an idiot. And I'm like, yeah, hi. And it's the wife, right? Girlfriend at the time. Did you take the phone cord to work? I'm like, I'm kind of busy right now. Just did you take the phone cord to work? I said, no, I didn't.

Check the bathroom. It's in the bathroom. I already checked the bathroom. It's not in the bathroom. I want you to come home right now and bring the phone cord back. Anyways, I could go on forever. How many foots? I'm even getting confused if it's five or six in the paratest.

Poor lady. Sorry, guys. My batteries died. Last thing. The difference between the RCMP. And I feel kind of bad. I didn't realize I'd be talking about, it seems like I'm talking about all the great things it is to be a city police officer, but I've never been one.

The next thing. And I kind of respect what the city police do here. You need 30 credits, a post-secondary education to become a, if you want the easier route, you become an RCMP officer. You just need grade 12 and valid driver's license, class 5. But you need 30 credits of post-secondary education. to become a Vancouver police officer. That might be a little bit overboard, but I don't know.

Think about the people who are applying, right? Think about the quality that they're getting. I do recommend, even if you become an RC&P member, to take some post-secondary education, but to English, okay? English. Learn how to write an essay, learn how to write a essay, learn how to write a story because that's all you're going to do is write stories. You arrest somebody

and you have to write a story. You have to know where the comma goes. Well, you should. Know where the comma goes. You've got to learn how to type. Type well. That will save you so much time. Learn punctuation. Learn how to write a good sentence, not a fragment. Learn how to write a good For now, I guess that's the only differences that I'm going to talk about. I'm sure there's a lot more. For now, that's... I remember asking Julie at depot training. She was on my troop, Julie.

I'm like, oh, you got your haircut. Like, they get their haircut while they're there. And she's like, oh, it's just so much easier to deal with. Like, okay. But, you know, it's quite a drastic change. I feel so... Why do I feel racist talking about that? Just the truth.

nobody and I tell this to my wife no girl should ever cut their hair okay no girl looks good with short hair I'm sorry like really boyish short hair

and April I remember April bucked her hair bucked it right off and I'm like oh what made you cut all your hair off and she's like well the drill you know

our drill sergeant she recommended that I do that she told me that I should do that I'm like April she's Lesbian. Okay? Of course she did. She loves short hair. Even though she had long hair. So that doesn't make too much sense. Anyways. Don't cut your hair if you go to depot. And stop calling it Depot. It's depot. It's not Home Depot. It's depot. Okay? I think that's it. I think that's it.

Lesbian part probably threw you off. I think that's it. I think I'm done. I think I'm done for now. I'm going to leash. I think that's it. What else can I talk about? I can talk forever. But you don't want to do that, you know?

I'm going to go outside tonight and we're going to have a barbecue and maybe some fish. It's probably going to be spaghetti. But hopefully fish. See if my neighbor's out and about looking for me. Come on. What the fuck, dude? It's just a little puppy. You're mad over that it's not on a leash?

Yeah, you pussy! What the? So hopefully it's a good night. And I live for another day. It's getting scary out here. It is getting scary out here. Thanks for watching. You know what?

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