Clinton Jaws - Sorry About Last Night | Clinton JAWS #46

Episode Date: October 16, 2020

Hey guys I talk about my last video and take a call from a viewer. I also discuss my career. hotline number guys 604-330-2512 leave a message on my voicemail.

Hey guys, Clint here. How you doing today? That's great. Or this morning. How's everybody doing? I thought I'd come down here and just smile while I do my podcast and talk at the same time, right? Because I kind of feel bad about the last podcast I did. I can't smile and talk at the same time. Bees it's funny. You know how when you're writing up an email and you're writing up an email and you're angry at the time? and you know better that even though you've written up the email, you know better not to send the email. You sit on it for a few hours, maybe a couple of days, a few days.

Well, that's what I did with the last podcast that I made. I sat on it for a couple of days, but I should have sat on it for three days. If I sat on it for three days, I wouldn't have posted it. I don't like coming across that way. I'd rather be coming across this way. Do you know what I mean? But then that's phony, right?

And by the way, ladies or boys, don't ever trust a guy that smiles and talks at the same time, okay? Okay? Because it's nine times out of ten that's phony. Do you know what I mean? Do you know those people? I'm always suspicious of people that smile and talk at the same time. Why are you doing that? I don't know why I just said that.

I just wanted to say, I should. I don't like the fact that I'm swearing too much. I posted it. I can't take it back. I'm not taking it off. I'm swearing way too much. I'm not going to swear this this time. I'm not going to swear too much. I think I swear too much. You can't just swear all the time. So I'm going to try not swearing anymore. Well, not anymore, but I'm going to try to not swear. I'm going to try to not be so angry. See, the problem is I have, well, now you know me a little bit better, right? I don't know. if that's a good thing, though. But you know me a little bit better. I have a little, I have anger that, you know, is in me that stirs around my stomach and, uh, stomach or my body. And sometimes it comes out. And I'm kind of embarrassed that you've seen it. I was just upstairs before I did that podcast, kind of stewing. And I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to come down and hit record. Because I had, I had heard some things that I didn't like. I think the anger in me,

erupted because I had heard some stories from some members and I had had a question about the NCO process and I started thinking about it and maybe that's the problem. Maybe the NCO process is the problem, right? I'm tired of talking about supervisors. I might have went over the deep end. There are some great supervisors. I even hate using the word supervisor, but. Brad Sautchuk, great supervisor. Mike Sucow, great supervisor. There's great supervisors out there. I think they're still good. Who knows, right? Time?

What does time do to a member's mind? Maybe it makes them a little rough. I don't know. But I've been thinking about the process a lot lately, and you're applying to be a boss. A boss. Let's say you want to be a GD boss, a corporal on a boss, a corporal on the watch.

But yet you're not writing to any of that. You're not writing to be a boss. a boss. You're writing to knowledge of GD. Okay, fair enough. That's a good question. That's a competency. But it shouldn't be, in my mind, it shouldn't be the day, you know, you were a leader one day. You went to a, to a school that had a bomb threat and you called the fire department and got a bomb dog. And that doesn't, and then you pass that competency, that doesn't tell you that you're anybody, that you're a good boss or a good leader. It doesn't tell you that you have, if you're a bully or not a bully. None of those, like knowledge of legislative policy, blah, blah,

blah, blah. Who cares if you did an exhibit audit or VIR, violence and relationship file? You reviewed a bunch of files and you noticed this. That doesn't tell anybody that you're a good boss. Maybe the competencies are the problem. Probably not, but maybe they are. How about right to tell me a time you acted like an asshole, you knew you were an asshole, and you corrected it. Or tell me a time where you helped an individual that was suffering for problems. Tell me the time that you went up to a cop and you said, hey man, you're having problems. You're having problems at home. I could see it. I want you to go home and I don't want you coming back until you're better. How about that? Like, show me that. Wouldn't that be a good quality of boss?

Or tell me a time you had somebody on your watch that came from another watch and they had 30 files and they were stressed out and you sat with that member for eight hours and you reduced their file account to 12. Tell me a time you helped a group of members, you know? And I remember, I'm not blowing my own horn here, but maybe I am. Yeah, there's going to be times you don't get credit for shit, but that's another story. But I had a member that came over to another watch. Her file load was insane.

was a mission. It was insane. The corporal that she had had a different style. So she comes over to my watch. We sit down. We get rid of all her files, basically. Just write the bullshit off. That's, I was most proud of when I was in Mission in Porte-Alburning. In Mission, I found it to be a competition between all the watches. I liked it. Maybe I'm sick in the head. That our watch had the lowest queue for six years out of all the other watches. I was proud of that fact until I see my staff sergeant walking by. I'm like, hey, look at the computer. Look at prime here. Look at our watch. Look how many we got like 45 files in the entire watch. And that's, you know, that's the guy who thought I was a shit show. And he was like, oh, well, tells me a couple things. Maybe you guys

aren't doing that much. Now it's a, I'm not going to swear. I say shit, I take it back. It's about being efficient. It's about relieving the stress of members. There's so much a boss can do when they start their job. Immediate stress relief. Anyway, in mission, she comes over. The old watch commander hears about this, that I got rid of all her files.

And I know this to be a fact because a sergeant told maybe she was there overhearing this. And she looks at my watch queue. Mine was around 45-50. Hers was 150. It was double three times. Her watch load was three times. Watch file load was three times bigger. And she's sitting there.

She brings it up. She sees my number and goes, what the F? Either I'm doing something wrong and he's doing something right. No word of a lie. She gets up and she goes and talks to the reader, Deldo or Dell. Goes and talks, I forget his last name. Goes and talks to the reader. complains about me, wants to know what files I've been written off, goes to my staff sergeant,

tells my staff sergeant how many files I got in my queue. She's doing everything right, right? I come back the next day, after going to his office, of course, and he reviewed every single one of my files, and bounced a few back, which was a waste of time, because we immediately did whatever he wanted to do, which was silly, and just concluded them anyways. I don't know what the point of my story is. Two weeks later, I look up the file loads with all the watches because I'm a sicko,

and she had less files than I did. She went from 150 to 40. It was insane. I don't even know what the point is. It's just, I look back at that story. She complains about me, says I'm doing something wrong, but in the end it's actually her doing something wrong.

Never once came up to me and said, hey, thanks for straightening me out because really she got straightened out, right? I go to Port Al-Bernay my entire time in Port-Alberne, and I can say this as a fact, our watch had the lowest files out of every other watch. There's four watches. Easily, some had double compared to our watch. Those are the things they should be looking at. And I guarantee you the guy that took over me, I guarantee you right now, I haven't talked to any of them.

I guarantee you that he has a watch that has less files compared to all the other watches in the detachment. It's just a small thing I'm not saying I'm number one. I'm just saying it's a small thing that maybe when it comes to the promotion process, you should start looking at things like that. And the cover letter guys, that's the main event. Don't think the cover letter is secondary. a lot of supervisors

they don't care about the other stuff they want to read your cover letter they want to know who you are who are they hiring put just a much time in the cover letter then you do your competencies and the more I think about

the competencies that we write at silly doesn't tell you anything about what kind of boss you're going to be it doesn't maybe they need to change that you know maybe there should be questions.

How many negative 10.04s have you given to your members in your career? Something like that, right? Really find out how much of an asshole this person really is. I never submitted one against my guys. I never threw anybody under the bus. Ever. That's... And Brad Sautchuk and Mike Seuckel, they're kind of like the same way.

And those are the kind of bosses you want. We all got type A personalities. We're working in a negative environment. It's, man, it's tricky being a supervisor. You can be the best. You can be really good. But it just doesn't matter. Sometimes it just doesn't matter.

You're in a negative environment. And no matter what people are going to talk about you, no matter what people are going to want to do something to you. That's policing, that's being a supervisor. It's difficult. Nursing is the same way. My wife? Unbelievable nurse.

Not because she has nursing skills. But because she's liked and she knows how to talk to people. And people like her. That means everything. But do you not think she has issues at work? Even the best do. My wife's the best. I guarantee you she is.

But even her, right? Negative environment. They don't want to... People want to destroy the best for it in some cases. And that's sad. my buddy just told me the other day he got promoted to watch commander where he's at the guy's unbelievable there's no better watch commander i know that there is no other better watch commander than that guy he's going to do an amazing job but look out it's scary it's scary once you move up

it does sometimes it just doesn't matter how good you are people want to complain about good people doing a good job. No matter what, you're in that position, you're in a negative environment, and hopefully that doesn't change them. It changed me a bit, but I'm not going to get into that. So I'm not going to swear and I'm going to take it easy and I don't really feel like talking about supervisors. I don't really want you guys seeing the anger that I displayed. I hope it doesn't come out again. It might, but what's my point? You work in a negative environment, sometimes a toxic environment, sometimes it's just hard to win. Sometimes you lose.

I guess that's my point. Because eventually they do listen to the squeaky wheel and maybe you have a bunch of squeaky wheels. Sometimes you're on a watch and it's squeaky as shit. Imagine going into that as a boss. When I went, I shouldn't tell this. I took paternity leave. Long time ago back in Mission.

I came back. By the way, I came back in my motorhome. I pulled up beside the detachment after nine months off. And I had a 40-foot motorhome. Because I had sold my house and I don't, I live in, I don't live there anymore. So I'm going to stay. Pour on, pour off. And I put out my slide.

Yeah, I did. Slide came out. Blocked a quarter of the road. But it was a wide road. And I put the jacks down as night time because I got to work in the morning. Leveled it off, turned on the TV, turned on the heat. and I get a knock at the door. It's a corporal.

And he can't stop laughing. He's like, what are you doing? I said, hey, man, they won't transfer me. So this is what I'm doing. Anyways, that's another story. But he comes in. We sit on the couch. And he's telling me how terrible my watch has been since I've been gone.

Like it's the worst watch in the precinct. I remember on my watch once texted me. a month earlier and said, the inmates are running the asylum. You need to come back. You need to come back now. It didn't matter who walked in as their boss. You were already losing.

Sometimes it just doesn't matter how good you are. Those were tough times, but I missed that place mission. I left it good. I left it well. I enjoyed it. I learned a lot. If I had to pick some things that were wrong with the RCMP, there are a lot of things that are great,

but I just don't know how you promote people that they have to be able to prove somehow that they're an effective, reasonable boss. And if you don't do that right off the beginning, the hardest promotion is becoming the corporal. once you become the corporal in the lower mainland, it is so simple to become the sergeant and a staff sergeant somewhere else. Especially if you become a corporal on a watch, and you're a watch commander.

Every watch commander can easily become a sergeant and a staff sergeant, and now it's too late. Well, it seems like it's too late. The dickhead is now running a lot more than he ever was. and he hasn't learned a thing. No one's ever told him. He's always been praised. Let's, I don't know.

Let's take a call. Okay, let's take a call. I set it up. I like this part listening to you guys. I won't play the message if you don't want me to, okay? The number is 604-3302512. Will you call it? Will you call it?

I'm tired of talking to myself. I need to be talking to people. I think that's part of the problem. You come down here, all angry. You look like a psycho like I did the other day. And it's just me in the room. Like, that's kind of crazy if you think about it. Anyways, I couldn't sleep last night because I was thinking about my behavior.

And the swear words. You know, let's take a call. Is it recording? Let's take a look. I think it is. Clinton Jaws. Love the podcast, brother. Thanks, Braws.

I appreciate that. Clinton Jaws. Thank you. I love that you love it. Found you on YouTube. Used to work with you in Langley? Langley. He's a cop.

He used to work Langley. You know, I lived in Walnut Grove in Langley. Now my house is worth over a million dollars. That was a dumb move. But, uh... Oh. good parts and bad parts dude okay just leave it at that i think i'll give you a little hint used to work in cell you know what we love to hear some of your uh cell block stories

let me know how fucked up it is did he have to swear did you have to was that needed was it needed well that ruined it just keep on going Take care, brother. Thank you, brother. Man, give me a hint. He used to work in cells. He's not going to tell me his name. We're going to play guessing games.

Hey, first of all, I appreciate the call. I really do. 604-330, 2512. Call it. He called it. But, uh, hmm. You know, I know I talked to a couple of cell guards down there, and one name was Izio.

I can't even say that name, right? He was a good guy. They were both really good. So maybe I do remember. but uh... something just hit me there if this is the guy that I talked to about my car ugh

I think I remember didn't you do see I think you worked on my car I'm just thinking about it now you lived in Murrayville or up around that area yeah I had a check engine light I got it back and the light came back on but I'm not mad at you over that one

you couldn't fix it if this is the guy It's funny That that just popped in my head We never talked after you fixed my car We'll try to fix my car I got promoted right after that You know I gotta tell I gotta be honest with you

Langley is foggy for me Being at that precinct It was foggy for me I I remember very little about cells Sorry Maybe it's because Okay, Langley, I don't think I was in, I wasn't in cells too often.

Wasn't in sales too often. Langley wasn't busy. It wasn't busy. I'm sorry, I came from a place that had 45 files a shift at night. Four members getting files, taking files. That was busy. Then you go to Langley. There's 16 members.

Sometimes you only get 50 files a night. Sometimes you get 70. Maybe a real busy shift was maybe bordering 100, but you had 16, you had double and sometimes triple the amount of constables on my previous watch. So it wasn't. In Langley was nice. There wasn't a whole lot of arrests if I'm comparing it to other places. There just wasn't. He wanted stories about cells, but I don't know.

What's there to say about cells? I don't even know what to say about sales What do you say? Yeah, there's a lot of fights that go on there's Well, of course there is It's funny, you know You go out on the field, you arrest a guy Sometimes it takes you everything you have to get that guy in the back of your car Sometimes, and they don't go in nicely

And then another cop has to go around the other side And pull him in while you're pushing them in They're freaking out They're losing their minds You finally get the handcuffs on them Then you go back to the detachment what's the first thing you got to do? Basically.

Now you take them out of the car? It's kind of backwards, isn't it? Now you take his handcuffs off? And what do you have? You have a bad guy and you don't have control of them anymore. And a lot of them, what they want to do right away is fight. And then you get in trouble as a cop because you're now fighting them back. And it's getting videoed and people are critiquing and criticizing.

cells can be extremely dangerous that's where a lot of bad things happen you just throw the guy in you don't search him properly because he's he's spitting on you he's freaking out he's losing his you know and throw him in cells and sometimes they pull out a knife i had a woman pull out a knife from her bra because we were it was all guys and we didn't want to search her hoots and get in trouble you know what i mean but yeah bad stuff goes down the only we're I got a job where I'm posted at, well, was posted at right now? Was because the corp... I'm not going to tell that story.

Anyways, cells can be dangerous. You got video cameras. It's easy to pick apart. Next thing you know it, you're either fired or you're demoted. I used to like taking them right out of the car. Usually what you do is you take them out of the car, you place them down, you ask them their name. Their date of birth and their address. A lot of times, I didn't care what their name was.

If they were causing a ruckus, you take them out of the car. With the handcuffs on, you put them in jail. Then you derobed them, search them, take off their handcuffs there. I'd say about 50 times in my career. I don't even know the number. But sometimes you had to put them in a chair, restraint chair, and the watch commander would have to watch that person all night until they calm down.

You take them out of the chair. Their legs are strapped in. Their arms are strapped in. They can't move. Yeah, it's just, it's a little backwards. you put the handcuffs on them. When you come back to the precinct, you got to take the handcuffs off.

And that can be a show. That can be a show. I don't know if I answered your cell question, but no specific thing. One thing does come in. No, I'm not. Okay. I guess that's it.

I enjoyed Langley, I hated Langley. Wanted to calm down. The Lower Mainland kind of, it scared me. I didn't expect it. I feel weird saying that I was scared. But there were a couple times in my career where I was scared. One was after the Marathorpe and another one was going over to the lower mainland to police.

I always dealt with the worst weapon that I ever dealt with on the island was knives, okay? Bad guys have knives. It didn't even dawn on me that bad guys had guns in the lower mainland. Of course they did. But it didn't even enter my head that I'd be going to a call that would be because the worst it's ever been is a knife and i remember my second block at langley and i'm just out there driving it's in the middle of the day i was having a good day and dispatcher comes over and says robbery in progress will i take it fort mcmert fort langley is a fort langley am i saying that right port fort langley that's where it was there's a place there okay robbing in progress

and just so you know Constable Jaworski the suspect pointed a handgun at the complainant and I'm like what I just about my pants I was like what? Are you kidding me? He's got a handgun? I'm going to a call and this guy has a gun and I'd never experienced it in my head

ever in my entire career and then I was like heart started beating I'm like, oh my God, I might have to kill him. I might have to kill this guy. I've never been in that position. I've never had a call involving a firearm. And that was, I never freaked out. I didn't freak out, but I never got overly excited.

It happened all the time, by the way, but I just remember, I remember thinking, I'm going to this call. So I show up, and he's not there. I didn't find him. Thank God he had a gun. And why did I tell that story? I don't know. I just, I guess there's a lot of firearms in the lower mainland.

And I was surprised. I was surprised that I was even surprised. Of course I was going to. Of course there's guns over there. There just wasn't any on the island, ever, ever. I'm not saying people don't, you know, police don't come across people who have guns on the island. I'm just, when I was working there, it was very rare.

I didn't even see it. I didn't have any involvement. But how about we just end this now? Yeah. Thanks for the call. 604, 302, 2512. Thanks for watching, guys. I'm a little calmer now.

I'll be better. I know that I was all over the place. And I don't know. I guess the other podcast that I did just got me a little rattled. I'll be better. Bye-bye.