Clinton Jaws - Teachers Kick Cops Out Of Schools
Episode Date: June 8, 2021Teachers Kick Cops Out Of Schools. Who is the real problem here? Veteran cop, Clinton Jaws, thoughts on ending school liaison positions in Vancouver. It's time for parents to stand up against the scho...ol board. This is by far the worst decision ever made by a school board and it puts kids in danger. Nobody is talking about this. This decision teaches children that police are the enemy. hotline number 604-330-2512 Call it. https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws #clintonjaws #policepodcast #vancouverschoolboard
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I think the Board of Education and those sitting on the panels are thieves.
I think they're liars and have committed treason against our children.
Stop indoctrinating our children.
Stop teaching our children to hate the police.
You work for me.
There goes the dog.
Here we go.
Used to, when I was in school, I just thought of something.
I used to sit behind a guy and he used to go like that with his sleeves.
if he hated the sleeves touching his palms
and I'd be like teacher
Paul's doing it again
it's not even funny I know but
I'll never forget that I'll never forget a grade 6
that I put him on a headlock
racism
you guys know that
you guys know that every police service in Canada is racist
you know every police service in
America is racist
and I'm sorry I have to clear my throat
too much coffee we all know that we've been told that right so why wouldn't why wouldn't you think
that there's racism systemically which means all the way through from the roots to the tip of the
apple tree that touches the sky all the way through policing racism everywhere we're racist
cops are racist you've been told that by the premier
the prime minister, every mayor, in every town.
So why wouldn't you think that?
You've been told that by people that run our country, run the world, the president.
He believes it.
Everybody believes.
Isn't it funny, though?
They never asked the police.
Hey, does racism exist in your police force?
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
I never met a racist cop in my entire career.
There is no racism.
So why aren't people asking police?
Well, I guess they asked the RCMP commissioner, and she said, yeah.
But if you talk to any police officer, they're going to tell you it's not true.
It's a lie.
It's made up.
It's political.
It's what gets them hired.
It's what gets them elected.
All these people are telling you that police are racist.
And I can't believe I'm talking about racism, but I am.
Because there's a video, I got to show you a clip of a mom that went to the school board and just lost her mind and it's kind of priceless.
Guess who's calling you a racist now?
Teachers.
Teachers are calling cops racist.
Teachers don't want cops to go to the schools anymore.
Tillakum School in Victoria.
The parents were outraged that police were.
going to attend on Orange Shirt Day because police are racist.
And of course they're going to believe that.
That's what they've been told.
Vancouver School Board votes to cancel police liaison program.
This has been going on for 40 years.
They've been doing this for 40 years these cops going into the schools.
And they just canceled it.
I got to read you some of it.
You got to hear it.
You wonder why police are getting attacked.
It's people like the teachers.
promoting, saying, making racism live.
They won't let it die.
I'll get into it later.
Trustees voted Monday night to remove uniformed officers from 17 schools.
17 schools.
They voted 8 to 1 on Monday to do this.
Months of debate.
They say there is much work to be done.
Don't they love saying that?
There's much work to be done.
It's important.
that all students feel safe, secure, and included in our schools, Cho.
Carmen Cho added, the chair.
Because I guess when police officers go through there, the kids don't feel safe and secure.
It's such a crock of shit.
I've been, I served in a lot of communities, and I'm telling you, when I worked in Duncan,
the most popular cop in Duncan was a school.
liaison guy. He was in
digienness.
Okay. Great guy.
I can't remember his name.
But they had competitions in
Duncan. The newspaper had competitions
in Duncan every year
to vote for the most popular cop
and put comments in.
And you could win prizes. There were only
two people that won prizes. That was me.
Proud to say.
I got a lot of votes.
And the school liaison guy got it.
He won every year.
These, they loved them.
The students loved them.
They were his favorite cop.
And it's like that everywhere all across Canada.
The students look up to the police.
When they see the police, they look up to them.
There's a good relationship.
These cops are doing stuff with these kids.
It's not a bad relationship.
It's not an unsafe relationship.
It's a great relationship.
And in some cases,
the dialogue, it can be said that school liaison officers have saved a lot of lives of students.
Why not? We all know traffic cops have saved a lot of lives. They've taken a lot of drunk people
off the road. That's saving lives. How about the school liaison officer that turns around a kid,
gets to them early? School board doesn't want them going to the school.
anymore. They want to take that, well they have. They've taken it away. Because police are
racist. That's what the school has taught the kids. Police are racist by doing this. According to the
Vancouver School Board, more than 1900 people shared their thoughts and experiences during the
engagement process. So 2,000 people. That's what they voted all, voted on. Parker Johnson,
who was a parent of the Vancouver student independent consultant
on an organizational change and volunteer
with the Hocons Alley Society spoke out against the program.
He said society is in a moment in a time
where there is a great concern.
Greatly like saying that too.
Lots of work to be done.
Great concern.
There is great concern about how policing shows up
in people's lives, both within and outside of schools.
Our Vancouver Police Chief, this is what this guy's saying.
What's his name?
Parker Johnson.
our Vancouver police chief has stated there is no systemic racism problem that's because there isn't
that's why the Vancouver chief said that he stated there is no systemic racism problem and this
is despite the premier the mayor and the city manager stating that there is a systemic racism problem
let me i got it how how would the premier know there's systemic racism there's a systemic racism
problem. How? In policing? How would the mayor know that? How would the city manager know that?
How would these? Wouldn't police know it? The police chief told you there wasn't.
Now, because that police chief admitted there wasn't systemic racism in his police department,
Parker says, he explained the absence of that acknowledgement could result in harmful practices
and attitudes going unchecked in schools. How can we trust the police? How can we trust the
police force that is not accountable for racism harm that it does to black or indiginous people.
There's no reason for us to assume that that type of harm will not continue and also be president
schools. Parker's saying because the police chief said there was no racism that that makes the
police chief racist, that that statement alone makes Vancouver Police Department racist. If you deny
that you're racist, then you're racist.
How can we trust the police force that is not accountable for racist harm?
Now, what the hell is he talking about?
What does that mean?
What racist harm that we're doing to black people?
What racist harm is he talking about?
Anyways, that's the report from...
That's the, I was going to calm down.
I don't know I'm talking like this.
That's a report from the CBC.
Let's go to stay with me.
Okay?
that's a CBC for you guys
now let's go to a different paper
the Thai E they're called the Thai E
Now isn't it amazing you have famous CBC
writing a piece of shit article with really no information
And then all of a sudden you get the Thai E coming around
And Katie Heisloff I think is their name who wrote this
But watch the difference
I can't even believe we're talking about this by the way
ending police going to schools do you guys even you talk to your kids you talk to anybody it's always been a positive
situation with a police officer walking up down the hallway talking to kids there's nothing negative
about that at all so the tae says it's been around for 49 years just gone like that count
of this school liaison officer program gone ten months they talked about canceling this program
two thousand students parents district staff community members participated in the review the vast
listen to this the vast majority of overall respondents were neutral or in favor of the program
the majority vast were in favor of the school
liaison program. They cancel it anyways. Half of indigenous respondents had negative views of the program.
How many does that account for? 10? Like what are you talking? Like how many? How many is that?
Five? Nobody knows. And they're not even talking about students. They're talking about, they don't even
say it's either the parents or, yeah, parents, district staff and community members. The black
respondents had negative views of the program over 60%.
But you don't know how many black people are going to the school.
And you don't know if it's the students that had a problem with the program.
Citing fears and anxieties about police, as well as past experiences of harassment and violence
from police in and outside of schools.
Give me an example.
They don't.
They don't.
This shit is unbelievable.
As well as past experiences of harassment and violence.
from police in and outside of schools.
Lois Pedley said it was with those black and indigenous students in mind
that she and fellow trustee Barb Parrott crafted a motion to cancel the program.
So these two dimwits, just aside that it's a good idea to kick the police out,
even though the vast majority wanted them to stay.
you can't make it up
this is what Chan Pedley says
she apologizes to the students
I know
I know
that this program has been really good to you
and kids like you
please know I'm not doing this
please know that I'm doing this with a
really heavy heart
and I still want to do everything I can to support you
insane it's insane talk
what a nut
what a nut
Parrot, who counts three former police officers among her immediate...
Parrot has three cops in her immediate family.
Apologizes to her deceased father for putting forward a motion to take police out of schools.
Nuddy.
I'm concerned about the objective, which I've been told,
isn't a priority of the VPD to use the opportunity to recruit students to the profession
like a job fair, but daily.
she said. Adding students are at the most impressionable stage of life in school. She's concerned
that there might be an opportunity to recruit students to the profession. That's a bad thing?
It's a bad thing to be a cop. This is what these people are telling your kids, your students.
It's unbelievable. It's sick. It's gross. It's unbelievable.
Do you know how you recruit?
Do you know how gangs recruit?
Do you have any idea?
A lot of them, they'll go to the school.
They'll recruit the kids at an early age to come join the gang.
She wants that to continue.
She doesn't want interference from the racist police officers.
They've opened it right up.
What else does she say?
When I started teaching in the 70s, whoopie do?
There were also two other groups that wanted to recruit at secondary schools,
and they were the military and the KKK.
What's your point, idiot?
Are you comparing the KKK to the police?
This is the wing nut.
This is the wing nut that helped kick police out of school.
Then you got this nut parent,
Kyla Epstein, a white parent of a mixed race child in the district.
She doesn't like that.
they're going to write a letter to the VPD thanking them for the program and all the years they did it.
She goes, no appreciation is needed to the VPD for its years of harm.
And in fact, an acknowledgement of some repairs is required for those who have been harmed by the decades of this program.
Harmed by the decades of the program.
To teach you to stay away from gangs and drugs and crime.
Be good.
She has a problem with that.
She calls that harm. That's harmful.
Oh, and you got to say, parrot however noted,
school liaison officers have been in schools as gang recruitment.
Drug sales and strangers wandering into classrooms have continued to occur.
She's omitting it. She's admitting that it's even happening.
I just got to tell you, I don't know her first name, but her last name is ready.
She was only one that voted against it.
And she says when we started the review, we as a board agreed to send.
Center the voices of students, and this motion doesn't center the voices of students.
In fact, it centers VPD and RCMP, she said.
And I'm asking myself, teachers are supposed to be smart.
Aren't they supposed to be smart?
The police chief told you that there wasn't systemic racism,
but they believe the Premier, who has nothing to do with policing.
He doesn't know fucking anything about policing.
Same with the prime minister.
The mayors.
What do they know?
They don't know anything about policing, not a thing.
And so you got to ask yourself,
what examples are they even talking about?
And I think I know.
I think they're talking about Chantelle Moore.
Last year, Chantelle Moore.
She was shot by a new Brunswick police officer.
There was protests.
This is the example they love to use,
that police shouldn't have done that.
And today, by a fluke, I read an article.
No charges against New Brunswick police officer in shooting death of Chantelmore.
They investigated the cop.
They found that he was justified in shooting.
He feared for his life.
And I'm going to get into this on another podcast.
And they found that he's not going to jail.
Everything he did was fine and dandy.
And I know it's sad.
She's a cute young girl.
Probably suffering from mental health.
Went at him with a knife.
And he was forced to shoot her.
But you can't use this example anymore, guys.
Okay?
The police officer was justified.
Why not believe that part?
But you won't, right?
You're going to look at it and go, now, there's still racism.
That was still racist that that police officer did that.
He did that. He killed her, not because she came at him with a knife, but because of the color of her skin.
You're crazy lunatics out there. You're still going to say it.
These are the people teaching your children that are coming up with these decisions.
Police officers are good people, guys. How do you not know that?
How do you not know that?
The life they have to live has to be.
somewhat moral.
Okay?
Somewhat good.
They're held to a higher standard.
You don't want your children to be held to a higher standard?
You're the ones that are disrespecting the police.
You're the ones why society is going to get hurt.
Your kids are in more danger by taking the police out of the school, you idiot.
And we just sit back and allow it.
Why wouldn't you, okay, I don't exactly want my kids being a cop,
just because I know how tough it is nowadays.
No kids want to be cops anymore because of teachers like this.
Because of the prime minister and the mayor, calling them racist.
You don't hear any kids coming home after school, daddy, mommy, I want to be a cop.
No, it doesn't exist.
And when you look at the majority of police, they're all fucking good.
The shit that they have to do just to become a cop.
ingrained in their head and how they have to act when they're not working.
And you don't want students to be around that?
Integrity, credibility, professionalism, compassion, empathy, ingrained in their head.
And you don't want children to be around that.
You're ruining it.
I looked up to police officers when I was in school.
and when they talked to me,
I felt like I was talking back to a hero.
But you're taking all that away.
Well, you have.
You've taken it all away.
You painted a fake picture
that they're racist,
murderers, they're evil.
And what happens when you do that, right?
Kids start thinking it.
Police start getting attacked.
Do you see this police officer?
Got attacked the other day.
It was either today or yesterday.
He shows up to a shots fired,
might be a active shooter.
He goes in alone.
He is alone. That's why he's alone.
He thinks it's an active shooter. He's going to take care of it.
They attack him and beat him.
Why?
Because of teachers talking shit like that.
Because of the president being silent all the time and never sticking up for police.
It makes people think that they really are evil.
They really are murderers. They really are racist.
Prime Minister of Canada.
All those people,
people are responsible. Defund the police, right? If you keep on telling police are the evil ones,
the murdering ones, the racist ones, if you keep on spreading this lie, 12 and 14-year-olds are going to
start shooting that police. Okay, no weapons in her hand. They're just busted out the window in the
back. Stand by. Female has a shotgun in her hand. Stand by. Put the gun down now. She's re-racking
around inside the shotgun.
Stand by.
Shot fired at me again.
Shot fired.
Shot fired.
The boy's out.
He's retreating inside.
And it's happened.
Why wouldn't they, right?
Shooting that police, 12 and 14 years old.
AK-47.
Trying to kill police.
Why wouldn't they?
You told me they're bad.
You told me they're evil.
I'm just doing what you want me to do, aren't I?
It ain't getting better.
It's getting worse.
Okay, I'm going to calm down because I want to play something that's a little bit more lighthearted.
Well, it's not really lighthearted.
That popped up today.
I kind of liked it.
I don't even, I kind of remember where it's at.
I think it's New York.
This mom goes to the school board.
She's fed up.
She's fed up with the teachers and what they're teaching her kids.
So she shows up and I'm going to get in so much shit.
Smoke.
She doesn't.
They don't like that anymore.
So I shouldn't be doing it.
The window's opened, okay?
Don't judge me.
I know it's bad.
Sorry.
Okay, let's watch this mom.
She's pissed off.
I think the Board of Education
and those sitting on the panels are thieves.
I think they're liars
and have committed treason against our children.
Stop indoctrinating our children.
Stop teaching our children to hate the police.
Stop teaching our children
that if they don't agree with the LGBT community,
that they're homophobic.
Just me one more time.
I have no issue hearing what you have to say.
Why can we not let the public speak?
Why can we let the public know
that you're teaching our children
to go out and murder our police officers?
Yeah.
Do you want the proof?
I have the proof.
She's got it.
Is that what scares you the proof?
Yep.
That a parent actually standing up against all of you?
Is that what scares you
to call out the names of these people?
Yes, that's what scares them.
Okay?
They don't really want to have a conversation about it.
You work for me.
Oh, don't you love that?
Come on.
You work for me.
Okay, I like teachers, okay?
I hang out with them.
I hope they're not watching right now, but...
You work for me.
Don't tell me I can't talk.
You're emotionally abusing our children and mentally abusing them.
You are.
I can't say that.
You're demoralizing them by teaching them communist values.
This is still America, ma'am.
She's talking about China.
The communist China that executes more people than anybody else in the world.
I have no problem having a peaceful discussion.
This is not a peaceful discussion.
No, that's your opinion.
See, here we go again.
This is peaceful.
To me, this is peaceful.
Well, I'm not burning, looting, and murdering.
This is peaceful.
I did not accuse you of that.
Okay.
I love this mom.
That's the first thing they like to do, right?
You're not being peaceful.
When I sit down here and I raise my voice, I don't know that I'm going to do it.
When I'm thinking about it in my head, I'm just talking like this.
Am I not being peaceful?
I'm excited like she's excited.
She's going to talk that they don't like how she's talking.
She's making too much sense.
So that's how they come out.
That's what she says. You've got to see it again.
This is not a peaceful discussion.
No, that's your opinion. See, here we go again.
Here we go again. I love it. Here we go again.
This is peaceful. To me, this is peaceful.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not burning, looting, and murdering. This is peaceful.
And that's been done for the past year, hasn't it?
She's just on a microphone.
Expressing her views and her opinions that are pretty damn correct.
I did not accuse you of that.
This whole cancel culture, you're silencing the children.
Where are their rights?
They have no rights.
So true.
Because if they don't believe in the indoctrination, the demonic, twisted, sneaky,
sneaky, vile acts and education, if you call it that, that you're teaching our children,
they don't agree with that.
They're either homophobic, they're part of a cult, they're racist.
What's racist?
Who defines race?
is why because I'm do you know what race I am you're judging and dividing you're causing
segregated yes and that's what the Vancouver School Board is doing you're judging
you're segregating you're holding you're not letting racism die them voting that way is
racist I am you're judging and dividing you're causing segregation everything
that we fought for everything that I fought for
For years.
Yeah.
So you have the right to stand here and tell me, I'm not allowed to mention a name when
the person, the Mr. Berry and Miss Cyrus themselves, you have ELA teachers giving out
assignments on police murder to police are bad?
You're making general assumptions?
No, I'm not making assumptions.
I'm not.
I know what I'm speaking about.
See, I don't agree with you.
So it's an assumption.
Well, I'm not going to engage in a back and forth with you about this.
I have a problem when teacher.
Of course, right?
No, there's no back and forth.
They go to these little boards and these little meetings.
They don't really get anything done because they don't allow it.
It's their way or the highway.
Yeah, I said that.
Are passing out flyers recruiting children to go to the courthouse to protest.
Black Lives Matters.
When you have people sitting with signs that says all cops are bastards.
Really?
All cops are bastards?
No, I think you people are because the way you're acting,
and the way you're training our children and our police officers
and making them believe that it's okay to abuse them,
I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and let you do that.
It's going to end.
This indoctrination and hatred towards our police officers,
the systematic racism and cancel culture is going to end.
You came to the wrong school district to do this.
Beautiful.
Guess the school was handed out pamphlets saying,
go down to the courthouse and do this bullshit protest.
Black Lives Matters down there holding signs that says,
you know, police are bastards.
I love everything that this mom said.
Why are more people like that?
Why aren't we like that?
You know what I mean?
Like, just tell them the truth.
State and facts.
It feels good to hear.
Because you know it's true.
I love hearing truth.
But you never hear it.
You don't hear it.
No one's talking about it.
No one talks about it.
Especially in Canada.
