Clinton Jaws - The Rotten Culture of Policing | Clinton Jaws #131

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

When your boss invites you into his office and tells ya to close the door behind you. This is the rotten culture of policing. The bad bosses focus on the small things and never let a "one off&qu...ot; go. Clinton Jaws takes some calls and talks about policing. call the hotline 604-330-2512 Clinton Jaws: Official Website https://www.clintonjaws.com https://thegoldenbadge.com Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWxFkykJzUk32iGqzSzXNYQ/join https://www.instagram.com/clintonjaws/ https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/clinton-jaws-police-podcast/id1540431707

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Starting point is 00:00:00 is what makes it so valuable. The knowledge skill. What's wrong with a reporter? She's slurring her words. Surrey isn't the only place questioning the value of the RCMP. She's staggering now. She's drunk. This reporter is drunk.
Starting point is 00:00:57 You got that right. Clinton Jaws guys. Website out there called Clinton Jaws.com. I don't even know. There's anything on. I'll get to that in a second. Wearing this shirt. Is that how you going to start it?
Starting point is 00:01:13 I haven't. I bought this shirt a year ago. I haven't worn it because my wife said, you're not wearing that shirt. You're never wearing that shirt. You look like you work at an ice cream parlor. That's what she said. Those are her words. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm wearing the shirt. I'm wearing it. It's on my body. It's going to be online forever. I haven't been on here in a while. And it's going to show. It's going to show. I'm going to show you my rust.
Starting point is 00:01:44 There's a reason why I haven't been on here. You don't have to leave in the. I'm putting the comments, oh, I'm sorry to hear, that's bad. Sad. I don't want to hear about that. I'll just tell you what's going on. Three weeks ago. Think it was about three weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Let's start back actually when I was working a mission. I don't know how long ago that was. 13, 14, 15 years ago. I'm working there one day, and we get some news that my dad has an aneurysm and his aorta. I'm not going to explain what that is. And I don't even know if I'm saying it right. It was a couple of cents. meters big they had to put a stint in it so they sent him down to victoria to get it done so i go down there
Starting point is 00:02:29 visiting him in the hospital and he gets a stint put in his i don't know i don't know somewhere somewhere in his body to stop this aneurism from growing it's bad if it grows because it could burst and he's lucky they were lucky that they found it he's told this he's told that he's lucky So they put it in, it doesn't work. Little time down the road, it's still leaking. So they go back in to fix it. It still doesn't work. A little bit more time down the road.
Starting point is 00:03:05 They got some kind of Australian wrap. They go in there, they wrap it. That doesn't work. This is like in the course of years, guys. And all this time, it keeps on growing and growing and growing. So they go back in again and they use some glue. That doesn't work. And they tell him basically last year,
Starting point is 00:03:24 there's nothing we can do for you. We can't go back in. And now it's at a 10. 10 centimeters. So my dad just sits at home waiting for this thing to burst. Well, he's sitting at home a few weeks ago. And his stomach doesn't feel right. Stomach is growing.
Starting point is 00:03:44 So he goes to the hospital. I need a cigarette for this one. Good old hospital. Goes to the hospital. Him and my mom. It's like one in the afternoon. He waits six hours before he sees a doctor. My mom tells them that he's got an aneurysm.
Starting point is 00:04:09 They don't care. It's not serious enough, I guess. So they see him in the male nurse, who's a wingnut, he tells my dad that you've got to go to Victoria. I sent your scan to Victoria and the surgeon's waiting for you. Surgeon is waiting for you. And if you don't do it, you're going to die tonight. So he had life-saving surgery.
Starting point is 00:04:33 That's what he's going to go to Victoria for. These guys. Guys, okay, maybe I'll show you a video. He takes off, why am I going to show you the video? Well, it enhances my video that you're watching. My dad takes off in a helicopter. He's a turn around. Take off the other way.
Starting point is 00:05:49 It was a pretty awesome, emotional, you know, thing to watch. But these guys in a helicopter, man, they come in to see my dad in Port Elberning. They are unbelievable. Like you want to talk about professionalism. And I can't, I'm not going to be able to describe to you what I saw. But these,
Starting point is 00:06:13 these men and women that fly around in these helicopters to save people, they're unbelievable. The most professionalism I've ever seen anybody display. And some of the greatest people to talk to, This guy just told us exactly what was going on with dad. The hospital didn't. So it grew from 10 to 11 in one year, but it's leaking like a son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Leaking like a son of a bitch. Where the leaking is going to kill him. Anyways, I guess that's all I'm going to say about the helicopter people, but Matt, you got to know, like, the stuff that they see, they're the people scraping up the bottom. Well, they're not scraping up. they're transporting the scraped up body parts to different hospitals around the world.
Starting point is 00:07:09 What a horrific job. But I look at them totally different now. So my dad goes down to Victoria. I know. It's a long story. Just calm down. This is why I haven't been around. Because I've been in Victoria quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And I just didn't feel like hitting record. So he gets a surgery done. It doesn't work. because it never works. I don't know what's going on. The surgeon said to my dad, he's 82, my dad. I wouldn't do this if I didn't think I could help you.
Starting point is 00:07:47 48 hours later, they give him a scan, and it's leaking like a son of a bitch. So the decision was made to go back in and do another operation 48 hours later. These are five-hour operations. I heard the dire doctor say, heroic surgery. I heard them say that. I heard one doctor say, you had two of the most
Starting point is 00:08:15 dangerous operations or something like that that you can have. So, he's still in the hospital. It appears that that one worked, but you know, when you have surgery like that, it's hard for everything to go smoothly. And he's still stuck in the hospital. Why did I tell you all that? I don't know, because some of you watch me. And I thought it was important that I share that with you. By the way, I got these notes. Like, is my address on there? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's from the RCMP. I don't even open these. I don't even know why I'm showing you this. But I don't know how many thousands? It feels like thousands. Thousands of letters that I get from the RCMP, and they all say one thing. I haven't even opened them.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Some are bigger than some are bigger and some are smaller. I don't know why. It's the same thing. I've been getting this. I think I've already shared this with you. But I just getting a kick out of this. The RCMP has been sending this to me since 2007. And look at this.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Look what they want. They want money, guys. They want 156 bucks. I just assume that's what it is. And I keep it to make notes on it. Yeah. Hi, Clint. Can you please?
Starting point is 00:10:07 This little sticky note. Oh, my God. This one went to the Port Alberti, did a detachment. A little sticky. Hi, Clint. Can you please change your address for this? Thank you, Michelle. No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So they got an address of Morton Street, which is really weird. What's the address on this one? Oh, Morton Street. Okay, yeah, so the RCMP in Porte-Alburning, you're sending it to me. No, I'm not going to change my address. 156 bucks guys do you know how much voluntary overtime i did for the rcmp over a course of my career for free i work for free and they want 156 bucks from me black forest ham that's what i use it for i get transferred from duncan i'm going to langley right they say that i spent one day to
Starting point is 00:11:21 much in the hotel room. And I told them. I told them this years ago. No, I didn't. You're wrong. It's not true. I didn't spend one day too long. The days that I spent are entitled to me. And they said no. And so now, Dave, I don't know, man. I don't know. Does it cost to send mail? Because if it costs them to send mail, which I think it does, hundreds of dollars in mail. Stupid. Not paying it. I am not paying that bill. And I'm not changing my address. Why didn't you tell me? I don't even know what the hell that says.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Sorry, my son just came down here. He wants money. So I gave him more money. Yeah, guys. You know what? Got that website out there. And some guy ordered a shirt the other day. Like three weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And I was going through all this stuff with Big Daddy. Come home and I don't have any shirts. No, no. F-A-R-C-Hs. They're all sold out. And I felt bad because he paid for this shirt and he's not getting one. So I gave him a call. I called him up.
Starting point is 00:13:03 He's at the Ryu in Porto Viroda. Okay? He's sitting in his room. It's noon. He's sitting in his room with his wife. And I'm like, dude, what do you? Why are you in your room? Well, she's too hot, Clint.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's too hot. It's like 32 Celsius. I'm like, you're in Mexico, man. You're surprised. is that it's hot. Anyway, he was sweating out there. I told him, maybe you should try swimming. That sometimes will cool you down.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Like if you go into the ocean when it's hot, we had a good call. Talk for an hour. Turns out he was a police officer. He just, just retired. You know, it's amazing to me. It's amazing that members,
Starting point is 00:13:47 he retired piece of medical reasons. He doesn't know. He kind of knows. that he's entitled to money. I'm not going to do a big video about this because I don't even really know how it works. But if you're on medical leave, guys, and you're in the RCMP,
Starting point is 00:14:09 you can apply for CPP disability. I don't know the exact rules. There's something like a waiting period of four months. If they approve you, you get a whack load of money. A lot of members are getting $20,000 back pay checks. you guys know about veterans affairs you got something wrong with you maybe a sore hip a bad back it's duty related you can get money PTSD 2000 3 000 for the rest of your life and then when you
Starting point is 00:14:45 get diagnosed with PTSD you can do more veterans affairs um applications because there's things that are related to PTSD and i forget the consequential to PTSD I think that's a terminology. A lot of members have PTSD and I don't have this, okay? Also have erectile dysfunction. See, I didn't want to say that because now you think I got it. Okay, I got, I have a good size, massive large penis, okay? It's not a, I don't, it's not dysfunctional.
Starting point is 00:15:24 It's good. I've had a man penis since I've been in grade three. It's a large penis. And also you can, uh, what, what else is related to it? Heartburn? You can have a claim for heartburn. IBS. You can have a claim for IBS if you have PTSD. It just keeps on going and going and going. And then you got Canada life insurance when members are a medical leave and they leave the force because of medical leave they could go on Canada life for two years. Well, guess what? This is something I also learned.
Starting point is 00:16:00 members are getting telephone calls from Canada life and they're saying hey it expires in two years but we reviewed your file you're actually going to get it till you're 65 until the old age pension kicks in or whatever it's called you got a lot of things
Starting point is 00:16:22 didn't didn't really know he got sleep apnea six years ago while he was a cop that is duty related that's a claim I just thought I'd share that with you And I should have somebody on here to explain it all. These are members walking around there clearing 10 grand a month and they're retired. And you don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Because the assholes don't tell you about it. They don't tell you about it. His bosses want to tell them about it. A lot of members don't know. I know a lot of members are now walking around with, you know, PTSD claims. And that's another thing. You could get this money and still want to. work. It's another pension. But you don't know. Nobody tells you about it. How do you find out?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Right? How do you find out about it? He starts telling me some stories about work. Because it's just kind of nice to hear people that relate to me. Like some of you send me messages, and I'm sorry that I haven't gotten back to you. And this guy even said to me, he goes, I thought you were mad at me. Oh man, I just, when you write something to me, I'm not very good at getting back to you on it. If you call my hotline number, I will get back to you. Eventually I will. But he starts telling me some stories that just gave my stomach like eGGVs. And they're not even going to be a big deal to you, but it's the culture of the RCMP.
Starting point is 00:18:07 What do you mean by that? Oh, we've got to change the culture. But what part of the culture is the problem? It's only one thing. And that's supervisors. And he told me a whackload of stories. And I related to, I knew exactly what he's talking about. Just the feeling that they give you.
Starting point is 00:18:36 He's working. They beg him to go on to the watch. He was in another section. They begged him to go on on the watch and take a recruit. So he goes on the watch, he takes another recruit. IRP just comes out. What's an IRP? Impaired driving, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:49 It used to be you pull a guy over. you bring them back to the detachments, they blow. It's a three-hour investigation. It takes forever. Then you got another three hours to do the paperwork. It's hard to even do two in a night. You're lucky. You don't want to do two in a night.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Now it's the RRP. Immediate roadside prohibition. You do it all roadside, 20 minutes. You can do 10 a night if you wanted to. He doesn't know how to do an IRP because he missed that. He missed the training. He wasn't on general duty. He wasn't on the watch.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And his bosses are telling him, go write some tickets. Get out there and write some tickets. So him and the female recruit, they go out. And they get two IRPs in one night. Pretty good. And he's kind of learning with her. He takes the paperwork. I think he faxed the motor vehicle branch.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And then he placed it in, I think, a wrong bin in the paperwork went to the wrong place. And he gets hauled in. He gets hauled into the office from the sergeant. and the staff sergeant. And he walks into the office and they say, shut the door, shut the door. Famous saying, I just can you shut the door behind you?
Starting point is 00:20:04 You know you're in big shit. And they basically came down on him, saying it was fatal errors that he did. What he did was fatal errors. I mean, you're going to have to cancel everything. Turned out they were wrong. didn't have to cancel anything. But because he placed those documents in the wrong box, honest mistake, that was fatal.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And you need to know about it. And you need to be felt, you need to feel bad about it. And by the way, we were talking to your female recruit. She says you don't show, show her anything. And my stomach is just like, it's all horseshit, right? It's all bullshit. You're going to believe what the recruit? instantly, well, that's what he says.
Starting point is 00:20:59 That's not true. Well, that's what she says. Okay. It's coming from her. It's, it's, dude, it's her opinion, okay? Everybody's opinion is cracked. That's the mortality.
Starting point is 00:21:13 That's how they think. So he's just telling me these stories and I'm like, that's gross, man. That's gross. You got a dark cloud over your head. They said that to them at one point. How do we get that dark cloud over your head? The pulling in,
Starting point is 00:21:27 Because they're bored. Over what? Over what? If I'm the boss, do you really think I'm going to come down hard on my guy that just took two drunk drivers off the road? Do you think I'm going to give somebody shit for that?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Oh, no. So you placed it in the wrong bin. Who gives a rat fuck? Really. Common sense. The culture. That's what you change. You don't make these people
Starting point is 00:21:58 bosses. Get a course on that. The stuff just pisses me off. It gets me going. And it's actually kind of hard to listen to. Okay. Guys, just because I text somebody something. You don't have to reply okay. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That ding? That ding. The ding of this telephone? You know, when you get a text, imagine, go ding, ding, trigger. That's my trigger. I can't stand it. I'll put it on silent. Somebody might call. I, um, the wife.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Okay. She's a nurse. They, they pay this guy, this comedian like $10,000. His name's Michael something. It's supposed to help out morale, right? It's a morale booster. He's supposed to be really funny. And he's teaching the audience of all these nurses.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I should have weren't. and he's teaching them and he's teaching them how to you know do things better at work for morale and he starts giving examples like in lobele scotia somewhere i don't know where one of the nurses for a week uh her job was to work but also to scare the living shit out of the other nurses and it catches on. I'm not really telling the story, right? Well, that's what it was. So on night shifts for the week,
Starting point is 00:23:48 like she would hide in a clothing bin or whatever laundry bin, and she'd scare the shit out of the nurses. And I couldn't help but thinking, I started thinking this. Fuck yeah. If I went back to work, maybe I would spend my night shifts
Starting point is 00:24:09 just scaring the living shit out of everybody in the office because we're in our office two, three in the morning a lot of the times when we're typing, we're doing paperwork. I started thinking, yeah, that would be fun. I'd be just scaring the living
Starting point is 00:24:23 motherfucking shit out of them. And then I thought, that ain't gonna fucking fly. Why? Because there was no common sense in management. None. You know what would have happened to me? if I did that.
Starting point is 00:24:39 The staff sergeant would have called me in to his office. Clint, he would have told me I'm getting a code of conduct. It doesn't look like you're doing any work.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You're just scaring the shit out of everybody. We can't have that. We've got you on video? Jumping around? Is there something wrong with you, Clint? Odd behavior, Clint. Really odd behavior. That's what would happen to me.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Erica came up to Erica complained You scared the leaving bejesus out of her God give you a We gotta write you up for this This doesn't make any sense Clint Who does that That's exactly what would happen
Starting point is 00:25:22 You're getting a no You're getting a code of conduct for no performance What's the point? I don't know I don't know Just I mean these people are so stupid I know there's some great staff sergeants
Starting point is 00:25:40 I worked with them, and inspectors and, uh, sergeants. I know there are. The majority of them are just fucking dumb. How stupid can you be? I'm getting mad at a story. I just made up in my mind. I'm getting mad at my staff sergeant right now. BZ won't let me scare my watch. So stupid. But that's what he would do. I think you need some counseling. I just sit here and I think and I just think, it's a bunch of geeks. It's a bunch of loose. It's a bunch of luis. that it should have never became a police officer. And when they do, they love the power.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And they don't let any small thing go. They don't. And they hammer you into the ground. They do more damage than what a bad guy does out on the streets to a police off. That's who damages police officers. Bad bosses. Nothing's a one-off. No room for failure.
Starting point is 00:27:00 This kid didn't even fail that I talked to on the phone. That's not even a fail. Who cares? Like, why would you care? He took people off the road. Maybe saved a life. And you're giving him shit for that. That's just fucking unbelievable to me.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Well, it's a bunch of little things, Clint. I had somebody say that to me once. What's the little things? It's a bunch. What are they? Uh-huh. Fucking moron. Let's talk about something different.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I came across a video this morning. I just want to show it to you, okay? I don't even know why I want to show it to you. I'm just going to talk about it. I don't even really know what I'm going to say about it, but it might be interesting. It probably won't be, but it might be. It's called, it's from CBC. Is it time to rethink the RCMP? These communities think so. Remember that headline, okay? These communities think so. Okay, it's ready to watch this? Say Bacy. This is the fleet for Canada's newest police force.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It looks nice. Decked out, and ready to go. But when a 911 call comes in, these cars can't respond. So we're in this dilemma. Norm Lipinski, okay, when I was a cop, he was a cop in the RCMP. He's been a cop for 72 years in the RCMP. And I just find it. I find he now works for Surrey.
Starting point is 00:28:34 He's the head honcho in Surrey. All these people that work for the RCMP, now they went over to Surrey. like we got sidehair girl. She worked in Maple Ridge. She was bigger than an inspector. Let's call them captains. I don't even know what they are anymore. She was a captain of Maple Ridge.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Goes over to Surrey. And I'm thinking, they wanted to replace the Surrey RCMP with more RCMP? Like, it doesn't even make sense to me. It's the RCMP. Norm. Did you know Norm looks exactly like?
Starting point is 00:29:16 his wife. Anyways, see what he has to say. Lama, somebody's got to be in charge. One police of jurisdiction and that's the RCMP. So they are in charge and we work for them, if you will. It's Chief Norm Lapinski's job to sell the Surrey Police Service to replace the Mounties. We will never win everybody over. But I do believe that we bring some some goodness to this city and we won't let the city down. Just like the RCMP didn't. Letting people down is exactly what the Mounties did in Port-
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay. Okay. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. This is an example they'll use till the end of time, won't they? Letting people down is exactly what the Mounties did in Port-Apict Nova Scotia in 2020. Systemic failures. Systemic failures. Communications. Yes. and a lack of local knowledge played a role in the country's worst mass shooting.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Well, okay, yes, it was the country's worst mass shooting. But don't forget about what happened in Montreal. 37 people were killed. Right? Like, why don't we ever talk about that? It was 1979. They're going to completely refer to this till the end of time, I swear to God, they are. This year, an inquiry exposed the challenges of a police force spread too thin.
Starting point is 00:30:52 a single organization responsible for everything. Why is it too thin? Why was it thin in 2020? Brenda Lucky, that's why. From traffic to terrorism. It's why Lipinski believes Surrey deserves a police force just for Surrey. I do believe it's time to have a second look. Can they do federal policing, national security, and then do boots on the ground policing?
Starting point is 00:31:20 Well, answer the question, dude. He was like the assistant commissioner forever. Why won't you answer the question? Why are you asking the question? What do you think? Internal security and then do boots on the ground policing. Should the Mounties please both urban cities and rural towns? Could they focus solely on federal crimes like the FBI?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Their questions are the top Mountie NBC. There's a top mountain. I think those discussions are healthy. I think we as an organization need to learn from and evolve as a result of those to make ourselves better. What the hell did he just say? Duane, I don't even know what you're saying. Duane McDonnell argues the RCP's model is what makes it so valuable.
Starting point is 00:32:03 The knowledge skill... What's wrong with a reporter? She slur in her words. ...and expertise that we are able to bring to... Makes it so valuable. The knowledge skills and expertise that we are able to bring to any one public safety issue, whether small in a rural area or internationally, internationally. I think that's something that we shouldn't shy away from, but that we should
Starting point is 00:32:25 celebrate. Surrey isn't the only place questioning the value of the RCMP. She's staggering now. She's drunk. This reporter is drunk. Okay. God. At least speak clearly. Place questioning the value of the RCMP. The force has been plagued by a sexual assault scandal. She's, I think that's something that we shouldn't shy away from. but that we should celebrate. Surrey isn't the only place questioning the value of the RCMP. So Surrey is questioning the value of the RCMP? No, what do you mean, Surrey was...
Starting point is 00:33:06 Surrey wasn't questioning the value of the RCMP. One guy was, the mayor. Remember the mayor? That guy. That's who ousted the RCMP. He's a liar. The RCMP thought he was a liar. The mayor was arrested for lying.
Starting point is 00:33:28 First, Surrey Mayor Doug McCallum told global news he had been struck by a car and was treated at Peace Arch Hospital for soft tissue damage. As she pulled out and turned right, she clipped my knee and my bottom leg and then ran over my foot at the same time and then took off. It ran right across here. I crossed my shoot that way. And you said hit your knee as well? Yeah, on the way through it, it sort of glanced off my knee, and then the tire went right across here. That's what he was arrested for.
Starting point is 00:34:04 He went to court. He was charged. He went to court for lying. He said his foot was ran over from somebody. A lady. He blamed that a lady ran over his foot, called the police. The police said, you're lying. We're arresting you.
Starting point is 00:34:19 We're charging you. You're going to court. That's the dimwit that was questioning the values of the RCMP. One person. But she's making as though it's everybody. See, this is the shit that gets me gone. Try away from, but that we should celebrate. Surrey isn't the only place questioning the value of the RCMP.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Okay, so who else then? Who else? The force has been plagued by a sexual assault scandal. Have you read that sexual assault scandal? I read it all. You should read it. I'm not going to talk about it right now, but you should read, I'm still waiting for you to answer. Who else is questioning it? Called out for systemic racism.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Called out for systemic racism. That's because the commissioner Brenda Lucky said there was systemic racism in the RCMP. Who cares if they were called out for systemic racism? There is no more rate. That doesn't even exist anymore. I always knew it never existed. But now it definitely doesn't exist
Starting point is 00:35:22 because Brenda Lucky came up with 17 initiatives to battle systemic racism. I've been listening, I've been learning, I've been consulting with all kinds of groups, including indigenous leaders such as the former MMIWG Commissioner, Marion Buller, the AFN National Chief, Senator Murray Sinclair, the Native Women's Association of Canada, the Inuit Women's Association. Can I ask you directly, though, how do you intend to be able to fix it, given the fact that there's a lack of confidence in you as a result of the statements by the Indigenous leaders? Thank you. Yes, in the days and weeks following that, appearance, I led the development of an action plan to address systemic racism and discrimination. And the plan has been developed in cooperation with a range of stakeholders that I mentioned.
Starting point is 00:36:18 and we have a total of 17 initiatives that have been under development and are being implemented. She came in like a fart in a wind, fucked everything up and left. But fixed systemic racism, right? She came up 17 initiatives, guys. So obviously it's fixed. I don't even know why she's talking about systemic racism now. Brenda's gone. Her 17 initiatives are still there.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's fixed. Everybody got racist training in the RCMP. It's fixed. How can you not know that? And I probably shouldn't have brought up the, what she say, plagued with a... He isn't the only place questioning the value of the RCMP. The force has been plagued by a sexual assault scandal. Sexual assault scandal, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I have a friend. She's still in the force. She's a female. We get along... I would consider her one of my good friends, even though I don't see her. We talk, though. And she read the sexual assault scandal and I read it. And then we had an argument about it. It's so sensitive. I can't even bring it up.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And if memory serves me right, I was just like, they're talking about a doctor. Sexually assaulting the women. Anyways, I can't get into it. Called out for systemic racism. And most recently the... Who was calling them out for systemic liberal liberals? Recently what? Mass shooting in Nova Scotia.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Okay, you got me there, okay? You got me with the mass shooting. Exposed fundamental flaws with the RCNP. The scandal did? Really? Really? Or did it fix it? I can't get into it. I can't get my argument on that. But I got one. It has some observers wondering if the force is even capable of change. It's got some observers. Listen to it. thinking that it's not capable of change.
Starting point is 00:38:30 What the fuck are you talking about? There's 17 initiatives, the battle systemic racism. Men, you couldn't become an RCMP officer if you were married, I think. Okay, there's lots of things that have changed. The pair test has changed. Tons of things have changed. Okay? If you're transsexual or,
Starting point is 00:38:59 transgender. You could become a cop. I think he always could, but I don't know about that. Women can now become police officers. So maybe tell me a bit... Here we go. Here we go. About the woman in this photo.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Well, that is me. Karen Adams knows what it's like to push for change from inside the force. I swear to God, the reporter, you're drunker than a skunk. It's like to push for change from inside the force. She was one of the first women ever to wear an RCMP uniform in 1974. But still we had shoes that looked like a granny and had heels on them, not really functional at all.
Starting point is 00:39:44 They've changed that, though, guys. What do you mean? She said they're not capable of change. Girls don't have to wear that anymore. You don't have to wear high heels anymore. You should, but you don't. But some girls have stories about changing people. and falling.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Fighting to be on the same footing as the men. Come on. Come on. That's stretch. Fighting to be on the same foot. Okay. I could just imagine. I could just imagine being one of the first female police officers going to the police station
Starting point is 00:40:20 and everybody going, what the hell? Like she gets her posting? What the hell? A girl? Well, we're not used to that. That's going to take something to get used to, right? We're going to have to start changing shit, like the bathrooms. Here I put my stets on and literally cried and saying it took 16 years for me to be deemed an equal.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Oh, yeah. It was heartbreaking. Sexually assaulted by a superior, she was taught to bury it. He was a corporal, and we learned in training that corporals were like many gods. You just did what they told you to do, and you didn't question. Well, did she just say corporals are mini-gods? I got to hear that. Sorry, I got to hear it again. Taught to bury it. He was a corporal, and we learned in training that corporals were like mini-gods.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Not anymore. They're scum of the earth garbage. Okay. Believe me. The worst job in the RCMP is being a corporal. We're not gods. They're not gods. They're the shit that everybody shits on. They take the shit for the detachment. That's what they do. Adam's believes reform is necessary to fix the toxic culture.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Toxic culture. Yeah? But what culture are you talking about exactly? What culture? They don't really explain it. Do you know what I mean? What culture? Because I know what culture needs to be changed.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I know what part of the culture needs to be changed. But they're not talking about that. They're not talking about what I said earlier in what I said. they're talking about sexual assault and I think it's pretty fair to say that there's not a whole lot of sexual assaulting going on within the membership anymore I think it's pretty safe to say that
Starting point is 00:42:18 girls are just important as men in the RCMP like the amount of change is absolutely incredible there used to be a height requirement for men so it's not just women that's change Sexually assaulted by a superior, she was taught to bury it. He was a corporal.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So she was sexually assaulted, okay? And when I heard that, okay, here's the thing with sexual assault. If I go up to a girl and I grab her titty, that's sexual assault. Like it's such a big definition. If I try to kiss somebody and I do kiss her and she didn't want to kiss, that's sexual assault. Rape. We all know what rape is. That's sexual assault. So when I heard her say that, say that, I started Googling her name. Karen Adams.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Karen Adams. And she wrote a book. So then I read her book today. I read her whole book. Good book. It's a good book. But I wanted to get to the sexual assault part because I didn't know what this guy, this corporal had done. What's my point? Point one is you should read her book. It's interesting. Point two is, um, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I'll let you come up with your own opinion about what happened there in that scenario. I'm not going to give you my opinion. But I was looking for, I was looking for the rape and I was looking for the guy's name. I wanted the guy's name.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I didn't get information really on either. Anyways, just keep on going. Change management was Eli Sopo's job about the- Sorry, guys, I don't even know what she's saying. You have to be intoxicated. Jan management? Change management was Eli sop... Change management.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Change management? Change management? Change management was Eli Sopo's job at the RCMP. But he saw little willingness for it. The culture hasn't changed. The structure, of course, hasn't changed. The systems haven't changed. What are you fucking talking about?
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's all changed. What are you talking about? It's all changed. And what are you talking about when you say culture? The culture hasn't changed. What part of the culture? It's a huge culture. There's lots of different parts of it that's changed.
Starting point is 00:44:51 The systems haven't changed? When you talk about change, we talk about a sense of urgency and the culture hasn't changed. The structure, course, hasn't changed. The structure course has exchanged. Are you talking about the course, the depot? It's totally changed. Completely changed.
Starting point is 00:45:07 They don't even do the paratest. They do another test. They got, because the pair test was racist. and you're five feet tall, you can't jump over a six foot mat, something like that, I can't remember, but they got rid of that. Lots of things have changed.
Starting point is 00:45:24 They did. We're giving carbines now, dipstick. What are you talking about? What are you saying that nothing has changed? Women are in the police force now. The systems haven't changed. When you talk to... What systems?
Starting point is 00:45:43 What systems? I don't know why I'm getting so excited. I don't know. why. Maybe because I've had a couple drinks. Systems haven't changed. When you talk about change, we talk about a sense of urgency and a sense of purpose. Well, it seems to have no sense of urgency
Starting point is 00:46:00 at the political level. He says the stakes are too... But it's funny that they just talk out of their ass. Give me an example. Where are the examples? He gave me no example. He just used big words. The political level.
Starting point is 00:46:16 He says the stakes are too high to ignore this conversation. I guarantee you, you will have another major disaster, severe injuries, death. Like you did in Montreal. Complete chaos because of poor communications, poor issues management, poor leadership and structures. Those shoes and the clutch purse, yeah. Let's be honest, not functional.
Starting point is 00:46:37 People really felt different at the time. The force says it's owning up to its faults. I kind of like the skirt in the purse and the heels. I should bring it back. I'm sorry, that wasn't funny. I don't know, guys. I don't even know what I got out of it. even really make sense.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's incapable of changing, but then they showed all the changes. And I talked about the changes. Is it time to rethink the RC? These communities think so. Which community? What community? These communities think so. Surrey?
Starting point is 00:47:18 One guy? I'm probably not even going to air that because that didn't even make any sense. I am so. I am confused. I'm actually confused. What's up, dude? It's La Tank. Just, I'm actually really intoxicated. I'm marijuana at this point, but it is completely legal and medicinal, apparently.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So I was slow, last time. La Tank, it is. It is completely legal. What can I say about marijuana? I'll get right to it. Yes, Part 4 or 5 is coming out on my YouTube page. I love what you're doing. I haven't done anything. Lettank's, he's got a podcast. Maybe I'll put a link in the description. I've got to find it.
Starting point is 00:48:04 But I also like what I'm doing. So, I mean, you're a superstar. I'm not, obviously. Yeah, I know. But I'm not in a lot of fun with it. Let's go. Thanks for hinting me to do this, dude, and much love to you. And, yeah, hopefully we'll talk soon.
Starting point is 00:48:23 If I visit that way, I'll come see you. Yeah, I would love that. We should play poker. this guy retired from the RCMP medical he's got MS and he's bored with his life he just started out a podcast
Starting point is 00:48:38 I'll put a link in the description he I guess I hinted to him to start one I think I did we had a telephone conversation or yeah he called me once and I responded to his call but he what was I going to say
Starting point is 00:48:56 you know why you do a podcast because in 80 years I'm a strong believer that YouTube's still going to be around. And I'm still going to be on TV. My grandkids get to watch Grandpa. That's pretty cool. So even if you suck at it, suck at it, which we all do, it's a good reason to start one.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Jaws. Yeah. You got to help me out. Oh, no. The boy decided he wanted a fishing rod. So I wouldn't buy him of fishing rod. What I need help with is how are you supposed to tie the hook to the fishing rod? What's the proper way to tie the knot?
Starting point is 00:49:49 Come on. You've got to help me out, man. Stop that. Thanks. Don't make me do that. I've got a fine fishing line now. Put that at the end of the video. Hey, Clint, this is Andrew from Regina.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Vagina? I had a question here. Andrew? Hey, Clint, this is Andrew from Regina. Andy. I had a question here. Oh, no. Through the RCMP training, I do know.
Starting point is 00:50:18 that they offer you a job right after you complete? No. I was wondering. No. No, they offered to you, I believe, before that, like while you're at Depo, and you're about to get your badge. What are you wondering? At you complete.
Starting point is 00:50:36 But I was wondering if I don't accept the job with the training that I received from the RCMP Depot counts. It's Depot. It's not Depot. Okay. It's not home. I received from the RCMP Depot count towards like a different police force. Like let's say, I'm indigenous, by the way, or indigueness, do you say?
Starting point is 00:51:07 I'm indigenous. Okay. Thank you for being indigenous. I'm indigenous, by the way, or indigueness, do you say? I'm indigenous anyways. And I was thinking about joining the tribal police force, and I'm wondering if the RCMP training would work for that or if it's I don't know
Starting point is 00:51:34 I'm losing my train of budget anyways what I'm trying to say is this RC&P training pretty much guarantee you a job with any police force or is that just with the RC&P anyways again love the podcast love the YouTube channel been watching it for about a year now so you have been great work man and hope to hear you from you thanks thanks for your call dude I appreciate it I know Victoria, they're giving you bonuses. They're giving RCP members bonuses to come on over.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yes, you're probably going to have to still do some qualifications with them, maybe a short stint. But I believe that, yeah, you'd be a shoe in. That's what I would believe. You would think I would know the full answer to that question. Well, let's find out. We continue to operate our incentive program to attract experience officers with a $20,000 signing bonus. This year, they've hired four experience officers. So I think that answers your question. I also know Halifax, regional police, like a ton of them, left and became RCMP. Because of Chief Kinsella, Chief Kins.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Thanks for your call. Keep watching. Oh, you're never on anymore. I will be. eight years old and totally qualified to make this kind of a. Hey guys. Thank you for using text to landline. Text to landline.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I didn't even know I had that. I wish I could text you back. You have a text message from 40358-8-8-44. They're a hard time recruiting people. He also says the training is not. Oh, whoever this is, you're going to have to call me. to Landline. I didn't even know I had that.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Oh, there's a hundred of them. Hey, Clint, I'm a current RCMP applicant. I called into your show just over a month ago now, talking about how I had an altercation and ended up putting a guy in the hospital and then had to discuss that in my RMAC. I don't know if you remember the call, but either way, I just got news that they are moving me on
Starting point is 00:54:10 the next phase of the application process. So I suppose I articulated it well enough. And I'm moving on to the psychological next. So I got the medical screening, psychological, and all that jazz. So my question to you is, what are the odds that you would actually get cut out of the application process if you make it this far? Hi. And I don't know why. but a lot of people are getting kicked out at the psych stage
Starting point is 00:54:45 and they don't even give a reason. And I think some people are in the psych stage and they get kicked out during that stage but they're actually getting kicked out because of a stage that they reviewed that they hadn't really reviewed but then they went back and reviewed. These members are not finding out why they're being kicked out. It's insane. Everybody's calling me.
Starting point is 00:55:08 They're not telling me why. There's a girl in Port-Al Bernie. that just got kicked out of the psychological stage at the psych stage no reason why i sometimes think that maybe they no longer i use i i just about failed the psych stage because i said i believe in things i wrote a test i believe in things that aren't actually there i see things that other people don't see and i said yes it was a total mistake but health services made me sit down with a psychologist after that. Then he asked me that question. I'm like, no, man. No, that was a mistake. I didn't mean to fill it out that way. I don't know if they're actually following up anymore where they see a
Starting point is 00:55:52 mishap and then they make the member or the recruit sit down with a psychologist to talk about it. But yes, a lot of people right at the end are being kicked out. But good for you for passing your armac. I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but at this, I'm feeling pretty hopeful. It's going to work help for me. Anyways, love the show. Keep them coming. It's been a little while.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Hope everything is all right with the family there. So thank you very much. You're hopeful. I guess, see, I'm a different bird. I always, when I was going through the process, I tried not to get my, it's impossible not to get your hopes up. Impossible.
Starting point is 00:56:38 But I told myself, I thought I had AIDS. Okay, I thought I was going to be kicked up because I had AIDS. That's what the matter. medical was going to come back. I mean, I can't believe I don't got AIDS. But I thought I didn't want to be hopeful because it was easier. I thought if I wasn't, I tried not to be hopeful because I didn't want the punch to be so devastating if I didn't make it. I don't know what your odds are, but they're still there just because you're this far.
Starting point is 00:57:08 That's great that you're this far. Right? The odds are in your favor. How about that? but I've seen a lot of people being kicked out towards the end lately. And I don't really understand what they're doing with the process. It's like they're just kind of throwing it all together. Like get it done quickly.
Starting point is 00:57:26 We need bodies. We need heartbeats. How do we make recruiting faster? I think they're trying to figure that out. And then you get punished for it because you get to the end. They do what's called a final review of your file. That's the final thing they're. do. I was told for a month, it's downstairs being read. I would call the recruiter every week.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Am I going yet? It's downstairs being read. It's still downstairs. Nobody's read it. That was the final stage. And I bet you people are getting kicked out at that final stage. The final read. Can't explain why. It's like, it's like, I don't know, there's kind of throwing things at you. Maybe you fail a stage, but yet you still go forward. And then they're like, oops. I feel like they're really disorganized right now. One person got interviewed from a call taker.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That just blows my mind. It wasn't even a police officer. It was a dispatcher. It's Rinn again. I apologize for calling so many times. They just have so many questions. And you seem very down to earth. Who's this?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Hey, Gwyn, it's Rinn again. I apologize for calling so many times. so many times. Don't apologize. They just have so many questions, and you seem very down the earth. Know what you're doing. And I guess this is more of a personal note, and if you ever want to give me a shout,
Starting point is 00:59:12 I promise I'm not going to stock yet. Knock on your door or anything. Although leaving three voicemails in a row probably because you from thinking so. But I assure you, we're on the same team. Anyway, my phone number is 519. 0640. And you can reach me
Starting point is 00:59:32 anytime. I mean, in Ontario, currently. Windsor moved from Toronto. Got a very sultry voice. Seems to go as well. Anywho, it's 51990. And you can reach me most days between the hours of, let's say
Starting point is 00:59:56 noon to 6 p.m. If you'd like... I'm always busy between noon. me. I'm sorry. No, I appreciate the call. If you'd like to pick your brain. And maybe if I bring up anything, that's a value. You can transfer my points to 500640. Oh, thank God you gave it to me third time.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Hey, you know what? I make fun, but thank you for the call. Who knows, maybe one day I'll get really, really drunk and I'll call you, right? We'll have a good conversation. I just like that you called. I didn't know you were calling a lot. Hi, Clinton. My name is RINN. That's R-I-N or Romeo India, November.
Starting point is 01:00:57 RIN. Big fan of your YouTube series and your podcast. I've only recently encountered it, and I've tried to watch as many videos as I can. Watch them all, RIN. And I subscribe to your channel. Right on. I'm not really concerned with any R-C-MP
Starting point is 01:01:14 the detachments or whether they be sending me. I'm willing to work anywhere. I'm currently in the recruitment process. Boyle? Do you want to go to Boyle? I think as we speak, I mean, the suitability screening background check. I think my biggest concern is I'm 37. I've had a lot of setbacks with policing in general in terms of recruitment. Not so much the fact that I can't get hired,
Starting point is 01:01:43 but I keep getting injured at the job I'm always doing. Lost prevention seems like a typical route. You know, two years ago, I was in the background process and sustained free severe injuries during a raw burning. But enough of that. I guess my question to you is, I know they're always saying be-fit for depot. Be-fit.
Starting point is 01:02:09 But do you get certain amounts of try that depot to pass anything? in terms of shooting, physical fitness, push-up, pull-ups, etc. I know the whole process takes about eight months to a year. That's what my recruitment officer said anyway. I'm wondering, should I be worried at this age? My body's going to hold up and taking care of myself the best I can. I don't drink. I don't smoke.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I've never done drugs. Hell, I've never even got a speeding ticket. or a parking ticket for that matter. Oh, come on. But I'm getting older. Do you have any experience with anybody in your trip or heard of anybody in your troop? And other troops, should I say,
Starting point is 01:02:54 that were older, struggled, and got through. And can you tell me any stories, any words of advice? Have a great day. Take care of yourself. Thanks for a call. 37-year-old's not a big deal.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Depot is designed to pass you. We have two 40-year-olds. I don't know what's wrong with your body. I wouldn't advertise that there's anything wrong with it, okay? Depple's not difficult. The physical part of Deppo is not hard. And yes, you get tries. You get two tries shooting when it comes to your final.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Maybe they changed it. Shooting's a lot easier now. I shouldn't say that. I take that back. How many tries? Yeah, I mean, when I was there, the parat test. You got a lot of tries. Scratch that.
Starting point is 01:03:49 You only got one try at the paratest at the end. And if you failed it, you were gone. But the paratast has changed. I don't know. I think you think it's like an extremely hard boot camp. It's not. It wasn't when I went through. That part is not hard.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I hope I answered your question. 37's nothing, man. Talk about it's actually the perfect age. Good luck to you. Let's call it. gotta go upstairs i know she's upstairs and uh what else can i say gonna go scare the living shit out of her brings up morale in the household right that's what i'm gonna do and that i'm gonna scare everybody in the immediate family
Starting point is 01:04:42 i wouldn't be doing that if are you okay you know you're you're liable to get shot you scare a mounty at three in the morning what do you where's your brain what do you think it they got guns man you're a half a hazard? You're an absolute goddamn hazard, Joss. That's what he would say to me. That was dumb. Talk to you later. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Hello, how you doing? What? You called me. Yeah, I just wanted to see how you're making out. Whereabouts are you? Okay, I'm gonna go. Why? Hi. Why?
Starting point is 01:05:34 That's how you get rid of your wife. This is how I tie a hook. I make a knot. I start out. I make one single knot. Okay, one knot. See the knot? I don't want that. I want to get rid of the long piece.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Still too long. This part you can use scissors or some pliers. I take the knotted end. The other end is attached to my rod. I put it through the hole of the hook. Can you see this? Okay. See that?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Some of that fishing line in my throat. I wrap around, okay, I wrap around six times. Okay, let's just call that six. I take this end and I go through the little hoopy doopy, right like that, and then I go through the big hoopy-doopy loop. I keep on holding on to that part, that part right there, okay? And then I do this. I don't know what you call this.
Starting point is 01:07:05 I guess you call it. Tightening? There you have it. Can't see, but that's why I put a knot there. This is so stupid, you can't see what I'm doing. But I put a knot there, so when the fish pulls, that knot prevents the hook from unraveling. That little tiny knot that I tied at the beginning. I'm not a very good teacher.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That's how you tie it. Stupid.

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