Clinton Jaws - The TRUTH of Being a COP

Episode Date: February 18, 2023

The Truth of Being a Cop.  Police Officer stories that you might want to hear from a retired RCMP Officer. Unique stresses in the job that police officers face daily.  It can be difficult to deal with the stresses of the job and many police officers have a hard time coping.  The tiny issues cops deal with daily can make you overly react.  The small issues became large. Former police officer shares some light hearted stories  call the hotline [phone]  Clinton Jaws: Official Website https://www.clintonjaws.com  https://thegoldenbadge.com Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWxFkykJzUk32iGqzSzXNYQ/join https://www.instagram.com/clintonjaws/ https://open.spotify.com/show/3hWntbop6gLEg6RFR0aOzJ https://www.facebook.com/clinton.jaws.7/ https://twitter.com/ClintonJaws https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/clinton-jaws-police-podcast/id1540431707

Hi. I'm just on my way home. Oh. Did you take Kylie? Yeah, I did. Hey, I'm going to do a podcast, okay? Okay. I might be a while.

Okay. I don't want a disturbance or a distraction. Okay, bye. You don't work tomorrow, right? No. Do you want a few drinks tonight? Sure. What would you like me to get?

just the stuff so I always have what's that I gotta go what do you know what I'm talking about news bye how many I don't know bye

the case Clinton Jaws guys Clinton Jaws website out there called Clinton Jaws.com there's also another one the golden badge dot com

I think that's what it is and if you're retired um don't don't turn it off let me finish this If you're retired, a current member or an auxiliary cop, you can get one of these. Put it back in your wallet, people.

You look like an idiot with an empty wallet. Every time I open up on these things, I never know how I'm going to act or what I'm going to say. And for some reason, I'm out of breath. Miley. God, I love that song. Love that song. Got some booze for the woman. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. You see this here? Oh, I want to tell you something. Not a big deal. Not a big deal. Short story. It's a short story. I wake up this morning, okay?

And I'm a little bit hungry. I want a good breakfast. I want a good breakfast to start my day. I want it to be light. I want a light breakfast. So I start digging around for a bagel. I'm going to have a bagel with some cream cheese. Can't find them anywhere.

There's no bagels. I open up the fridge. just in case because sometimes she puts bananas and bagels in the fridge, which is really bizarre to me. So I see the cream cheese, brand new thing of cream cheese on the side of the fridge. Right when you open up the fridge, there's the cream cheese. I'm like, oh, man, that cream cheese looks good. So I call her up. Call her up.

And I ask her, you went grocery shopping yesterday. No bagels? You didn't buy bagels? There should be bagels. Really? I don't see any bagels. Really? I don't see any bagels. Did you buy any? I didn't buy any, but we got bagels. I know for a fact, we got cream cheese. I just bought some brand new cream cheese. I'm like, okay, okay, I get off the phone with her. And I go back into the drawer. And I dig around and I find three bagels at the bottom of the drawer. I inspected them. I investigated them. And they weren't moldy. They were good. They were up to code. so I put them in the

toaster ripped it apart put it in the toaster and I'm waiting for the toaster to pop up I got my cream cheese ready and I start spreading it I start spreading it I'm spreading it on the bagel

on both sides both sides of the bagel there's two pieces to a bagel and I don't go I'm not like a thin kind of spread kind of guy like real thick like maybe quarter of an inch thick

I like my cream cheese, even though I'm lactose intolerant. And so I go, I sit on the couch with my glass of water and my bagel to start my day. I turn on the YouTube and I'm about three-quarters, I'm just about finished my bagel, okay? Something's just not right. It took me that long to figure it out. And the cream cheese was, it was sticking to the top of my, it had a bad texture. Like a really weird texture, almost like old Plato. Do you know what I mean?

So I go back to the fridge where the cream cheese is. And I look at the box. And I look for the date. Okay. It says November 16th, 2020. Yeah, yeah, you guessed it. You guessed it. Best before.

It's no wonder why we always have the shits. Our whole family always. has the shits. It's no wonder why we do, why we do. There's no wonder why we never feel well. And it's hard being me. It's hard being me. I can't, can't you look? Can't you look at a date when you go to Walmart? Hardly anything missing. That was probably a really dumb story. But I don't know what, I don't know what, I don't know how I'm gonna, I don't know if I'll be going in the hot tub tonight. I go on the hot tub every night and I don't know if I'm going to be doing that tonight. I have a feeling like something really bad is going to happen. And it's yellow.

It's not even, it's not, is it supposed to be yellow? It's yellow. It's yellow. Asty. Oh yeah, you bought some, we got some new cream cheese, do we? Should we just take some calls? I haven't been on here in a while. And I'm thinking that maybe we should just, uh, take some calls. We got firewood the other day. I went and got firewood the other day. I don't know why I'm telling you this. Guys, I know you don't want to hear about it. I had a subscriber on here. You don't, sometimes I just want to sit back and I just want to talk and I don't want to have to worry about what comes out of my mouth. Like right now. And I know, I know, I know YouTube punishes me because everybody's clicked off. This is unbelievable to me. Three months ago, I got wood delivered to my house that cost me $300. In a quarter of wood,

used to be 100, maybe 125, 150, 200. That was crazy. Now, a court of firewood is $300. The guy comes, he drops it off, and I start talking with him a bit. And I'm like, man, you must be making a killing, eh? Like, wow, $300. That's quite a bit of money. And he says to me, yeah, you know, permits have gone up a lot.

I'm like, oh, wow. I guess that's the reason. And then I had a subscriber message me and goes, Clint, you know what, it might just be worth you paying for a permit and going to get your wood yourself. And I thought, you might be right. So I Google firewood permit in Port Alberti. Guess how much of that cost, guys?

Guess how much? They're free. The permits are free. Such a liar. Why do you lie? I had an ex-girlfriend that used to always say that to me. You're such a liar. Why do you lie?

Yeah, I had to weigh with a woman, I guess. I think I was lying too. But that's all she would say. It was so freaky and creepy. Why do you lie? You're such a liar. Like that will never leave my head. She said this kind of thing daily.

Oh, she was completely. insane. Completely insane. I miss her. You know what? Maybe we should, uh, let's just take a call. Let's just take a call. I don't know what I'm going to really say or do today, as you can tell. I just want to sit back. I just want to, uh, I want to, uh, I want to act myself. I want to let loose. Long weekend, hey? It's a big one. Kids don't have school. They also don't have school on Monday. Big old long weekend Let's take a call Hey Clinton

Guess what? What? Brenda Locky's gone Oh Jesus It's aggressive Yeah dude she's gone She's goneria

And Man I've been thinking about this for the Since I did that video I've been thinking about this for the You guys want to see something I'm going to show you something Nobody watching my videos And when I say to you that I'm shadow band on YouTube,

yeah, hear me out. YouTube shadow band. I really mean it. I create the title of my video. Nobody's watching it because YouTube, they're not going to let anybody watch it, but maybe a couple of my subscribers. So I purposely go into YouTube.

I go to the search bar and I punch in the title. I'll show you. Let's cut and place that. and we will go to YouTube. I'm going to punch that exact title line. Obviously, when you punch in the exact title, it comes up, right? Enter. Watch.

Watch. And this is what is really frustrating for you. See this girl here? Hold on a second. But I'm just showing you. I could go on and on and on. It will not show up. It is not there.

it is not there at all so i changed the title hoping that would do something look at these these things are five months old three months old some of these videos are four years old look at this one four years old still not showing it doesn't show it doesn't register what is that bug you clint well because i want people listening i want people subscribing i mean there's there's people out there i'm not i see i'm whining But I changed the title. It used to be Brenda Lucky quits. Because nobody else was using quits. And I thought, hey, I'm going to use the word quits.

I go to Duck Duck, Go. Brenda, Lucky quits. Go to videos. There I am. Right there. You go to Bing, same thing. Google and YouTube. Hate my.

guts and there isn't anything I can do about it. This is the amazing part. I've been doing this channel for a while now. All I do is talk about Brenda Lucky. Am I talking about her again? You would think that one of my videos would take off to 176,000? Like other new YouTube channels? Nope.

Look at this. I'm gonna give me, watch this. This is not any example, but I made the mistake of clicking on this one right here. I know I shouldn't show you because they're retired members. And there's nothing worse than how I feel when I put down other members with the RCMP. I do not like putting down. Putting down is the wrong word. I do not like criticizing police officers at all.

It takes me a lot to do it. And I hope I don't do it here because in a way, they, they have, for whatever reason, even if I don't like them, there's a touch of family there. Does that make sense? That's actually true. There's a touch of family there. So it makes you feel kind of, you know, shitty inside when you're not talking about them nicely. I don't know what I'm saying.

But let's watch this, okay? Brenda Lucky, what is it, CTV? They got 2,000 views. They're right at the top. Brenda Lucky faced challenges during their tenure. Oh, did she? Did you face challenges Lucky? Like every other commissioner?

Let's see what this hot little mama has to say. Let's get some more perspective now on... The thing, this thing is called power play, guys. CTV. The decision that Commissioner Lucky made to retire, and what comes next for the force from two former members of it. Former RCMP major crime investigator Bruce Pitt Payne is here. And retired RCMP officer Sherry.

Oh, how much are they paid? That's fine that they go on. Why don't they asking me to go on there? Power play. I'm just sitting here alone. I do nothing. Okay. I'm a babysitter.

Relieve me on my duties. Get me on your show. Benson. Poldechuck is here as well. Hello to both of you. Thank you very much for making the time. Bruce, why don't I start with you? I think my producer.

Okay, Bruce Pitpain. Jesus. No, I'm not going to say anything bad. But if you were a member and you were under investigation for something, you would never want Bruce Pitpane to be the interviewer or interrogator. Okay, I promise you that. That's all I'm going to say. I don't even know why I said that.

What are you going to say, Bruce? I don't even know if I'm going to show this part, please. I can't remember what Bruce. us. You know, I'm just confused on what they say to tell you the truth. Producers said that you were, you were not necessarily surprised, but did definitely have a reaction to this. First of all, how can you not be surprised?

I'm surprised. This is fishy, guys, now that I've had a day to think about it, her term was going to expire in something like April. So she told everybody that she planted, she was going to do another five years. But somebody. just my opinion. Somebody intercepted it. It hurt and said, no.

Do not apply. I don't know if you apply. Do not ask for another tenure because it's not going to happen. So she bowed out gracefully. I honestly don't believe she had a choice but to leave. I just believe that. How significant do you think it is that Brenda Lucky is retiring before the government says, actually we're not going to renew your tenure?

Yeah. Well, I mean, we will never know unless she says exactly why she retired. But let's be fair to her in one sense is we all retire at some point. So it could be just she's had enough of the game. So I want to be fair there. But I also want to say as an ex-member, I'm happy to see it happening because I think that there's been a lack of leadership. I think the force has gone downhill in the public eye. not just because of her.

It's been even... It's because of her. Before that with the previous commissioners, but for people like me, it was really depressing to watch the force as an organization hurt itself over and over and over again with Commissioner Lucky at the helm

and she has to take responsibility. That's true. She introduced systemic racism into the RCMP and then went bye-bye. She didn't even fix it. She comes up with her idea out of all these commissioners that we have ever had. First one to say, yeah, there's systemic racism for that. Sherry, what was your impression of the commissioner in her performance over the year since 2018?

Thank you for having me, Vasi. I have a different opinion. I think that she. What do you think? She came to the helm when there was so many systemic problems within the RCMP that. you systemic problems? Why is that word so catchy all of a sudden? There were so many systemic

problems. She came to the helm. She came to the big table. Like she's a warrior. Okay. Did she say anything wrong? Did this member say anything wrong? I don't know. It's going to take probably a couple of commissioners to actually fix the workplace culture that they're dealing with right now.

See, I don't even know what that means, guys. It's going to take a couple of commissioners. Okay, fair enough. And the events that happened, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. It was just overwhelming, not only as a... It was overwhelming.

Let's write that word down. Overwhelming for her. Why am I doing this? The events that happened, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It was just overwhelming not only as a, as each community was dealing with the tragedies of the events that were happening in Nova Scotia and in Ontario, in Saskatchewan and BC, all. All these things happen under her tenure. Those things happen every year, guys, to every commissioner. Big things happen all the time.

Why is it different? Why is it different? Is it different? Because I don't know. I don't know. Why all of a sudden is it different? Why would that be overwhelming? Yeah, big things happened under your tenure.

So? Who cares? Nova Scotia. She was sleeping in bed when it happened. She's working. from home, guys. What does she have to deal with? What's the big deal? What did she have to deal with? She got things wrong. I don't know how you can stick up for her. You're sticking up for her if she's a girl? Is that why? Because there's every single RC&P commissioner out there had big things happen to them.

But she's making a zelle that all these things just happened to her. See, all these things happened under her tenure. And I think she did the best job she, could, considering the monumental task of first addressing the workplace culture. Monumental task, first addressing the workforce culture. The monumental task of first addressing the workplace culture. And what I see is, you know, she's done her part for the, for King and Country now, you know, all these over 30 years of service. And she's made some positive changes.

I see those positive changes. And I'm hoping that... She's made positive changes. And she has seen them. Positive changes. Name me two. Right now, right now. Two.

Well, I could name 17. 17 initiatives to battle. Systemic racism. Oh, this is so dumb. I can't take it. I can't take it. Positive changes. She got rid of the, every change was ridiculous.

It was stupid. She made 55% of her staff girls. Why? Because she just wanted more girls. She didn't want the best. She just wanted more girls. She wanted equity and diversity. She didn't want freedom.

That takes, the things she did took freedom away from people like me. And a lot of people that deserve to be on her cabinet, on her commitment. on her committee. But she discriminated against certain people, against a large group, to make her cabinet the way she wanted to make it. You think equity and diversity is freedom? It's ridiculous.

She made her cabinet weaker. It's no wonder she's not going to be working anymore. Positive changes? I'm sorry. Hey, I will give anybody the benefit of the doubt. Tell me right now what she did. That was positive. Gary, I promise you, it was completely negative. In all the years of the RCMP, if I was to put on that uniform, if I didn't retire and what I seen with how they were treated,

how the RCMP members were treated, you say systemic racism, people are going to treat you like racist. How embarrassed I would have been. How do you think these members feel? I think quite a few feel pretty embarrassed. walking with her head down, not up. She didn't make any member walk with their chest out and their head up at all. She embarrassed the entire force. Completely embarrassed them. Made them look weak, made them look racist,

and now she's running away from it. How about that? She'd have fixed nothing. Changed, changed? changed for the worse. Absolutely. You take the blue line away? The blue line patch? I guess you changed that. That's modernization Clinton. Yeah, it's way better. I see those positive changes. And I'm hoping that, you know, her legacy is showing that it's possible for women now to achieve the ultimate goal, if that is their goal to be commissioner in the RCMP.

And I... Oh, thank God for that. Really? Any woman out there like, oh, I got a chance. Oh, of course you got a chance. There's only 9% of women that apply to the force. Of course you got a chance, especially when we're our focus on being woke, being equitable,

and diversify. Of course you got a chance. Man, you'd have a better chance if 3% of women applied. Right? You have a better chance of being the commissioner? You have a better chance of being a chief? I mean, I'm just going to say, if there's three women in the RCMP, they're going to be the bosses. And I'm not saying anything bad here. I'm just stating the fact. I just can't believe how the world is run now. That's our focus on those kind of topics. Diversity, equity, not the best. And that's what Trudeau did. He came in and said he wanted a girl.

Commissioner, not the best. I'm fine. You can't say that. Okay, keep that to yourself. Just hire the best. You don't hire somebody based on their gender or the color of the skin. That's discrimination. That's racism.

And we're taking a course on racism? Did Lucky take the course? I wish you the very, very best in her retirement. Sherry, I just want to follow up with you before I bring Bruce in, because I think it is of note that Commissioner Lucky is the first woman to hold that job. And I take your point on all the, and Mr. Sobe made a lot of those too, right, on the positive changes that have resulted from her tenure. But I think it's, it is true that she also faced.

Am I in the goddamn twilight zone? What positive changes, guys? A number of controversies, right? And we can debate the merits of those. But she's certainly like, the question. was always there, will she stay on in that job for how long? Is there political support among the front benches of the federal government? No.

Do you think that that will dissuade women from trying to be in that position? Or do you think the fact that she has held it will do its part to make sure that more women venture to hold the job? What a stupid question. I'm an optimist. I'm a realist, but I'm an optimist. I see more people talking about, oh, I'm a stupid question. you know, I'm going to join or I'm a corporal. I'm going to keep going and try to achieve superintendent,

cheap superintendent. So I do see some positive things there. Of course they're going to. I will agree that there have been some missteps. But, you know, why is that a positive change? Anytime you're in the public, the public arena, any time you make a mistake,

it's in the news again and again and again and again. And so I think I like to. And that's true, guys. Hey, I made a ton of mistakes. And I shouldn't even be criticizing these members because my God, I mean, start with me. I mean, I think I've criticized myself a lot on this channel. And I got no problem doing it.

But wow. Yeah, the mistakes I've made. My concern is that whoever takes her place will revert to the old ways and we'll be 10 years from now will be having these same conversations about the same problems that she's been trying to change. So it's, I'm wondering how who, well, the government will pick the next person to replace her. Because I think anytime a new person comes in, a leadership role, they already have their own agenda, what they want to do. And I'm hoping that they

will continue with some of the positive changes that she's done, as well as being mindful of the mistakes and errors that were learned along the way. So take the lessons, not the pain, to move forward and create a better organization. Bruce, when you look ahead to the next appointment, the person who replaces Brenda Lucky. What do you think the most? The biggest challenge they will face is. Well, the first thing I do want to say is the biggest challenge is going to be hiring.

No one's applying. Brenda Lucky came in and called us racist. Why would you apply to an organization? The day you go to Depot, day one is the day you become racist. That's what she said. basically. Okay, that's what she said. Why would you, why would you, why would you, why would you, why would you, why would you apply for an organization? And I'm just going to come out and say it again. It's a complete lie. What she said was a complete, effing lie about systemic racism. She comes in, rattles it up and nobody, everybody's retiring. Everybody's going off sick. And nobody really wants to apply to the RCMP.

Positive changes? And to this day, she's never given an example of systemic racism. But she promoted it. The biggest challenge they will face is. Bodies? Bodies. That is the biggest challenge. Working on a watch, a full watch.

Having a police station at a detachment, that is full. That's the biggest challenge. Now, Benson wants you to just hire another liberal so she can carry on with Lucky's targets instead of somebody coming in and changing things. And what's that going to do?

Benson, I think, wants somebody to come in and admit that systemic racism is in the RCMP. What's that going to do? You're right. 10 years, 20 years, RCP will be gone. If you get another Lucky, RCMP is gone.

Well, the first thing I do want to say is I agree with a lot of what Brenda has said. This is not all about Brenda Lucky and other issues where, yes, some people may try to besmirch her character and what she's done because of who she is. Who is she? We're going to do what to her character based on who she is? I don't even know what that means. A girl? And the placement.

And that would not be called for it. Here's the biggest problem with the next one. What? Is it's just another person put in that seat? If that is what's going to happen, then it's up to the federal government to make decisions that allow and encourage the RCMP to actually grow and fulfill the mandate and the desires that even Brenda Lucky said she had when she first came in to. her term. So this is more than just about the commissioner of the RCMP. The RCMP needs change. If you don't adapt, we all know what happened to the dinosaurs. And it's time that the RCMP adapts and says we are not perfect. We have issues. And that's up to the government to say,

here you go. We're going to fully support you. It hasn't happened. So it's not all about Brenda. I think I kind of get what he's talking about. He's saying the next commissioner has to go in and just do what they want to do instead of being controlled by the Trudy government. I think that's what he's saying, which is true. Okay, I'm going to leave it there. Thank you very much, both of you for sharing your insights with us this evening. I don't know, God. That was so goddamn boring that I just showed you that.

And I don't even know what I'm getting excited about. I mean, they didn't say everything awfully wrong there. Well, and I'm not being difficult. I really want to know what the positive change. changes were. I mean, I know the bad. There's so much bad. It's more than bad. Way more than bad. It's career ending for a lot of members. There's five members charged. Two with manslaughter. And what Prince George, I don't know. I don't even want to get into it. Ever since she's taking the helm, the big table. Let's take another call. Clint's Jaws.

Clint. This is Fred. Hey, bitch. From Mission. Happy New Year, my friend. Take care of yourself. Bye-bye. Happy New Year to you, dude. I used to work with Fred and Mission.

Are you still there? I just thought of that. No. Can I tell a Fred story? I don't know if I should. I might put you guys to sleep. You notice how he doesn't say, I love your podcast. Because he's probably just freaked out.

He's like, what the hell? He's flipped his leg. Clint's flipped his lid. Like who does that, right? puts on a video camera. Starts talking. He doesn't do a good job of it, really. It's no wonder I got 4,500 subscribers.

Do I got that? No, I don't even have that many. I'm going to tell a Fred story. Fred is a big bastard. Okay, he's short and stocky. And I was always afraid to be around him because he would grab onto you and just kind of like look at you.

And you're like, you're scared that he's going to grab onto you. And like, I hated it when members grabbed onto me because I, I would tuck my shirt into my pants. And I'd put my, what do you call those things, those vest, those bulletproof vests over top of it. And then when they grabbed onto me, my shirt would come out of my pants and I just have to rearrange everything and tuck everything back in. You're all disheveled. every time I was he was around I was always disheveled but I thought I feel like he's a tough SOB if I was every time I looked at him I thought oh man I would never want to mess with you I don't know why I thought that he's got like I don't want to say retard strength but I think that's I think he has that

if that's a thing I don't know if you're allowed to say that I might edit that part out he Okay, we had a staff sergeant in mission. And this staff sergeant, I mean, he was haywire. Guys, he was haywire. I caught him singing opera in his down the hallway once. Okay, it was weird. Don't sing opera. If you're a staff sergeant, don't sing opera.

And they got into like a verbal altercation. Where Fred was so mad. he went downstairs into the gym and beat a bag as hard as he could and he told me about this and then when he went back up to the staff sergeant they had another conversation and he fred just stood there and went yes staff sergeant yes staff okay staff sergeant he was at his limit this cup was full with the staff sergeant and the staff sergeant like even came up to me after i heard this story He's like, oh, I was saying how great Fred was. I'm telling you one thing.

He'll never be running on the watch. That'll never happen. Like, you can tell that the staff sergeant was completely shuckin up over Fred, who was great member, great member, like solid worker, showed up to work and would work. And his wife is the best of the best. If I was Fred, I'd be telling my wife to write a book. Write five. Best writer I've ever seen in my entire life.

But happy New Year to you. Hope you're doing well. I hope you're paying off your house. I actually hope you sold it. Guys, hey, if you used to work with me, give me a call, 604-330-2512. Love to hear from you. Even the ones that didn't like me, which is most. Mission is such a strange place.

I look back, I was thinking about Mission today. And there was so many ups. and downs, like what Fred, Fred had a little down, but he never did. He never had downs, but he had that one. Everybody, it seemed like everybody in mission, they all went through up, up and downs. And you were almost relieved that somebody else, they were focused on somebody else instead of you. Like when somebody else got in trouble, you're like, oh, okay, well, I'm good for a week. I spent six years there. And I don't know how many bosses. I don't know how many bosses. I went through, how many supervisors I went through.

And it was always the same thing. They were so bored. They had nothing but to focus on you. Because they had nothing else to do. Well, that we're going to get him. How are we going to get that constable, that corporal? He's handing out too many batteries. Like, I'm not even kidding.

I'm not even got to complain about batteries. Jeff Skye, you know, Jesse, this tape recorder was downstairs, just running. I was sitting there. running. You don't know how many battery life he's wasting in his tape recorded? I got a guy. I go to go to Costco and get more batteries. You can't just leave your car running. Yeah, the battery dies. Okay. There's two goddamn batteries in the vehicle. They'd shut off. So you go back out to your car. There's no computer, which we rely on, unfortunately, but we do to see where we're going to go.

And it would take forever for the computer to start back up, forever. So we used to just leave the cars going. Big deal. Big deal. You're going to wreck the car. Gas is costing me. It's not costing you a thing. It's not costing you a thing.

Idiot. I had a member walk in. Six in the morning, okay? He's on my watch, Upshaw. He walks in. He's got his pants on, t-shirt, hat on the back of his head. He doesn't look too good. He's not supposed to.

He woke up, threw his pants on, probably because he didn't want any other cop to see his balls in the change room. But he's half-dressed, and he walks past the inspector. He walks past the inspector in the morning, and the inspector's like, he looks like shit. And he comes up to me and he goes, what the hell is that? Looks like. he looks like a little school kid something like that like i don't know like who cares relax don't focus on us

i remember that same inspector they just come around the corner you don't know what time they're going to show up they just kind of just like all of a sudden they're there to check up on things like that's how bored they are they will come in early and off times just to check up on you and I had a cigarette. I had a cigarette behind my ear. And I come around the corner, there's an inspector, Karnarski, and he looks at me,

does it double take to my cigarette? And I'm like, ah, yeah, you probably don't like the cigarette, do you? And he was like, no, I don't. I don't know why I told you that. I had a watch commander in. He was old.

Sharp was his name in Langley. I forget his first name. But he called me into his office. I heard you're smoking in on the cop cars I'm like of course I am It's winter It's freezing out I rolled down the window

You know I think there's got to be something out there That says that you can't smoke on shift Really? Oh there isn't I'm sorry but there isn't Taking too many notebooks They didn't want you taking too many notebooks At one time

So they just put a few in In the cabinet And a few PTAs and UTAs. You can't use too many. Don't fill up your bags with this stuff, guys. What are you going to do? What are you guys? What's your watch going to do?

To battle crime. Lay it out. Okay, lay it out. We need to know. I need to be promoted. I need to know how you guys are going to... Think crime prevention. I had a guy.

I had a guy in my watch. his name was Dave. I forget. He used to be a cop in Vancouver. He was a city cop. And then he transferred over to the RCMP. And he has to teach a female, a new recruit on how to be a cop. And they're in the cop car. They're going down Duncan Hill, down the highway, okay? Coming towards the farmer's market in Duncan. It's a little damp out, no big deal. And the female is, I want to go so fast. She's not going fast, okay? They're going to a call.

No, I can't go fast. And Dave goes up. I'll pick it up a little bit. Pick it up a little bit. And she goes, they go off the road. Off the road into the ditch. And the ditch isn't doing it justice because it's more of a ditch. It's like ditch half cliff.

Oopsie, Daisy. I don't know why I'm talking like that. Anyways, Dave's fault. My watch commander writes up, Dave, gives him a negative 10.04. Because he told her to pick it up a little bit. What? What are you talking? Is it my, is it his fault that she doesn't know how to drive a little bit quick?

Didn't she, don't they teach that in Depot anymore? You know what I mean? So dumb. There's so many dumb things that happen. And we're just all over. each other we're all over each other you go outside you go outside and that's not even the problem you deal with the outside public but when you come back in whoa vicious vicious vicious they're they're listening to the radio some of them they had a radio set up a mission

i wonder if they still do have a radio set up a mission it blurs it's like on a speaker So the inspector, staff sergeant, and the sergeant that are sitting in the little office all day long, they can hear this radio go off. And if they hear something that they don't like, sure is shit, they'll get up. And they'll say what they want to say over the radio telling you how to do it. Had a sergeant, Janet, she loved to do that. Idiot stick. We're going to a call. Not a big deal.

kind of high risk and I'm letting my members as the watch commander work it out on the radio I'm going to the call too I'm actually going to the call and we're trying to get the details people are going back and forth

what about this what about that and Jenny gets up off her chair pounds on it because I know that's what she did how about somebody go to the complainant and ask them exactly what's going on and to this day it drives me crazy

that I didn't go, how about you shut your face? Okay? Go back in your office and continue doing nothing like you do every day. That's what I really, I hate that I didn't say something like that. Or just how about this? Shut up. Don't interrupt. I'm the watch commander.

Shouldn't have told that story. Just things pop in my head that make me angry. And I don't like using people's reels names. Things follow you. Things follow you in the RCMP in the policing world. You think you're going to get away from it, but you don't. You don't ever get away from it.

You don't. I mean, I had a corporal on Langley that watches the show. And we did not get along. All he ever said to me, first impressions, Clint, you know,

I'm sorry, just can't get over the first impression. And then I promoted to corporal. I go to mission. and sure is shit he transfers the mission there he is we're on the same page a little bit

he's a corporal I'm a corporal but you could tell that it was still like personal pressure was quite and I remember asking him once he came into the watch office he's being all pissy and I said hey man

are you doing okay in a sarcastic way but I thought he actually thought it was being like I was showing him compassion, which I wasn't. And he goes, Clint, you'd be the last person. I'd tell anything to. I'm like, whoa.

And then, goddamn Karnarski. Karnarski comes in. And I knew it was doomed. I knew I was doomed because when I was in Langley, and this is not going to make sense to a lot of people. But everybody told me, I wanted to get off the watch because it sucked. I didn't like the watch.

And if you guys have a watch right now, that is great. If you have a great watch, there's been so many times where I've had great watches, if you have a great watch right now, you do whatever you can to expand that. You don't say to yourself, I think I want to go to GIS or street crew. No, you don't.

You stay on the watch and you talk to your watch members and you say to each other, what can we do to keep this going? because I guarantee you the best moments in policing right now, if you're on a good watch, are right now. And turn that one year into two years, three, four, five, six, seven, as long as you can. You stay on that watch, if you got a good watch. And you got a good supervisor, a good watch commander. You keep those guys together.

I look back when I left mission, I miss it. Finally, after six years, we nailed it with the watch. And things were going good, and then I leave. But I'm in Langley, and everybody said, you need to apply for the, I don't even know what position it was. It was, what the hell was it? Working with kids or something, something stupid. Something irrelevant that, you know, that they kind of fit in there like, oh, crime prevention.

Something like that. Something really easy. It took me forever to write my resume to mission. I wanted to become a watch commander in mission. and it took me forever to write the resume at the same night that I had to hand it in to Vancouver headquarters. I also had to hand in my resume to this other position. And I made a big, big mistake.

I looked like a complete idiot. I handed it in. It didn't make any sense. I used a job from another job that I applied for. I was talking about, I was talking about assaults. I was talking about domestics on how I was really good dealing with domestics, but I'm applying for a job that I'm going to be working with youth. But in my head, I'm thinking, maybe if I just put my resume in, they'll overlook it.

They'll say, he's so good. We want him so bad. we don't care that he put in a bad resume, but it was awful. It was awful. It was terrible. The resume I handed in. There I am. Working in mission.

We replaced inspectors, and there's Konarski. He walks in, and he can't believe I'm a watch commander. I see it in his eyes. I see it in his face. And he's like, what? and things were not good after that because he already knew you already this guy there's absolutely no way he should be a watch commander i can't even believe as a police officer i knew i know he was thinking that it follows you you can't get away from it and i don't know why i told you all that

he even told my he told my staff sergeant about that story because my staff sergeant said does something happen with you guys in Langley? I said, yeah, yeah. I applied for a job. Yeah, he mentioned that. You applied for a job. Why would you mention that? Because that's how bad it was.

God. God. Why can't we just relax as police officers? You go to Deppel, you're so happy. You're all excited. You graduate. You get your little thingy dingy. And then you go to the detachment

and just the pressure, the pressure that they put on you. You got a workload that you cannot ever finish. It's endless. It's endless. And then you got these goddamn managers that are just down your neck, breathing down your neck. You got it coming from so many ways, from your own home life, because that turns into shit.

from your work life to the outside life. The fun part is dealing with the complainants. That'd be easy. But they don't let up. They don't let up. And they listen to Crown Counsel all the time. You know what Crown wants. You know what Crown wants.

Crown wants the entire package, guys. You have to put in the entire package before they're going to approve a charge. You have to work on it your entire night. You literally can only work. work on one domestic a night if it's in a custody. You don't you don't ever want an in a custody domestic because you've got to put everything in. It's so stupid. Why haven't we ever said to Crown? This is what we want, Crown. Stop telling us what what what you want. We run the show. You don't. Why don't they do that? Why don't we ever tell Crown to piss off?

This is how we're doing it. But no, we don't. I know you guys don't know what I'm talking about. But we listen to Crown and all that pressure. All that pressure is unnecessary. As a supervisor, you've got to relieve that pressure. You got to, you got to get rid of files. You got to write off files.

You got to tell Crown Counsel. This is the way it is. This is the way it has to be. No, you're not getting photographs. You're not getting statements. We're not doing any of that. We're doing a quick RCC and that's all you get. That's the way it is.

You got to tell the hospitals, smarten up. We're priority. Don't make us wait. You got to do things like that. I don't care that you want 10 tickets a block or five tickets a block. I don't care. I don't care. I don't got time for that shit.

It could be such a great job. And it is a great job when you got a good supervisor. and I was a good supervisor in Duncan. And then you start listening to them after a while as a corporal. Because really, if we're going to be honest, working for the man, doing a job, you're always taught, right? You're always taught, go to school, go to college, go to university, get a job. It's brainwashing.

That's what it is. You go to depot, it's brainwashing. They're changing you into a different person. And then you become a cop, you become a supervisor, you become a corporal, you think you're doing good, but you got to do what the bigwigs want you to do. And after a while, in my case, I feel like I got a little brainwashed. You start really wanting to satisfy them. And that's not helping your watch.

That doesn't help them. And that grosses me out. There's been a couple times where I'm just been like, you disagree with it, Clint, but you're doing it anyways. That's gross, man. That's really gross. Those are my regrets. Where you, as a supervisor, you can never conform.

If you don't really believe in it. If you don't really believe in what they want you to do, you can never go with it. I don't care. I don't care if it's going to cost you everything. You know, I had so many supervisors say, that's not a hill. I'm going to die on, Clint. No, you need to die on that hill. You need to. I mean, if you want change, positive change, you need to die on that hill. You can never back down. Be reasonable, but you can't give in too stupidity. And I did a few times in my career. I regret that. I really do. I shouldn't have. done it. I feel like sometimes I didn't have any control though. It was just like it's sometimes it's

it's a total breakdown. They break you down you to take parts away from you. I was unbelievable in Duncan but I go to Langleyam Mission and chip they chip, chip away, chip away until you're like almost nothing left and then you start getting that you start getting it back you get the chips back go to someplace different and sure is shit. sure is shit. You're almost doing it again. Which I didn't. I fought back.

But you're so weak. The fight is... I mean, it's going to take anything to knock you down. Just a little fragment of myself. Going to Port Alberti, really. Even though I'd have final great year of mission. And my staff sergeant, which was... He almost cried when I left.

I'll never forget that. Clint, I'd have you back. It was the best thing is there. anybody has ever said to me as a police officer did i have a call piece i can't ever remember what you said i don't even know who i was talking to it's it's amazing because uh my my woman my girlfriend can't say that i can't i can't even say my girlfriend anymore you don't know what happened the woman comes home and goes clint are you telling people that i'm your girlfriend i'm like I don't know. What do you mean? What do you mean?

My mom just called me and said, why does Clint keep on talking about a girlfriend that he has? I'm like, okay. Don't do that, Clint. Stop it. Stop it. Don't do that, okay? Don't do that. Don't embarrass me. I got a big job here. I'm a nurse. I'm a nurse. Okay, I got a big job. So don't be doing that stuff. And I'm like, okay, yeah, you're right. I won't do that again. And, uh, anyways,

she does have an important job. And everything she says to me when she comes home, it just reminds me of my entire career. So she'll be saying something and then I'll be like, oh, you know what you have to do here. You know what you have to say here. You can't have that.

You can't have that. Everything is 100% related because she's a supervisor. Sometimes I think it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what position you're in. But when you're in a position of policing where it's so effing important, so stressful, and then you get management that pours 40 more percent, sometimes 90 percent on top of that, you can't even breathe. And she's got a job that's nursing, supervisor in nursing.

You're going to throw that on top of her. You don't last long as a person. You just don't. You can't do it forever. And if you do, you turn into a weirdo. And I don't even know what I'm really saying. I've had a couple of nudes. But to me, it makes sense.

I'm going to review this and go, and I'm just going to post it. I'm just going to post it. I don't care if I don't make sense. I'm just going to put it out there. Let's take another call. Hey, how's going, Quinn? It's up here.

Doing well. Enjoying your retirement. Thanks for calling, dude. 604-330-0. 2512. You hope I'm rejoined my retirement, enjoying it. I don't know. I don't know.

I think I am. I don't know what to say to that, really. I babysit. It's not really retirement. It just isn't. Because I can't do anything. He's the girlfriend. She still works.

And I'm not allowed to go. I'm not going to get into it. Maybe I should. Maybe I should get into this. Why can't I go anywhere? Okay, no, I won't get into it. No. I love retirement, dude.

Just waiting for the woman to retire. She's going to retire in maybe another 20 years. And when I'm almost dead, we're going to go places, we're going to do things. Right now, we do things on Saturday and Sunday. And I wait for, I wait Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for that to happen. And that's what I do every week. I called a few hours back and I just wanted to mention a few things. And I also had a question since I'm in the process with the RCMP. Good for you. So I'm a person from a visible minority group, so I'm a black person, right?

You're a black person. You know what? Isn't that great? I love it. I love that black people call me. I think he's the second black man. Because I know a lot of whites watch my show, but not a lot of blacks. And thank you for being black.

did. I guess that's all I'm going to say about it. It just excites me. It's like a girl. You know, girls don't call me? They don't call my hotline number, 604-3302512. And I wish they did. I wish more black people did. But I know there's not a, there's not a big representation of black people in Canada. I had one black guy, one black kid when I was growing up in Port Albany. I grew up in Port of Burney, I'd never seen a black boy before. And I think I gave my paper rip. You know, I did. I did. He kept on bugging me. Hey, can I have your paper route? I had a paper route for seven years. And I said, okay, you can have it for a week. I'm going away. I had to go with the family somewhere. And I gave my, gave him my paper route. It might have been for a couple of weeks. He took over my

paper route. And then when he was older, I seen him at the Arley, like in a bar. and I knew it was him who this is years after okay years after obviously and I see him so I go up to the black boy he's a black adult now and I'm like hey dude Clint I gave you my paper roof there for a couple of months and he looked at me he turned to me and goes yeah and you rip me off he kind of scared me because he could actually he had good genetics. Like most black people, they seem to have good genetics. And it scared me because I've never ever had a black man mad at me. And that's my black experience in Port-Alberney. Stupid. Listen to your podcast for a while now.

And I honestly agree with a lot of things you say, to be honest. Why wouldn't you? It's kind of sickening to hear like, and people say certain comments about different police organizations and stuff. Because, for example, he's a back person, I don't see an issue with most or the general of police officers, right? Here's the thing. No, I shouldn't get into it. I don't blame black people or indigenous people.

When they, uh, indigenous peoples. I don't blame black people. them for saying, you know what, I'm being treated this way because of racism, you're racist. Because I think if I grew up as a minority in Canada with a minority mom and dad, I think a lot of things I would attribute to you treating me this way because of the color of my skin. Could you imagine if I wasn't white and I had this YouTube channel? I probably would have said, for the past three years, 500 times that I was treated this way because of racism.

For whatever reason, I think, I don't know, that's all I'm going to say. I think if I was a different color skin, I would blame it on racism. Because there's not enough of me in Canada. Does that make sense? Yeah, in every profession there's a law of police. officers, right? Yeah, in every profession, there's a few bad apples, obviously, but you can't generalize just because one person did something wrong, and that means everyone did something wrong. Like, for example, this is my question. What's your question? I have a few tickets on my

record. He's got a few tickets on his record. I don't have any points on my record, just a few speeding tickets a year and a half ago and what he doesn't have any points but he has a few speeding tickets that confuses me because in bs i don't know where you're from but you get a speeding ticket you get three points at least i don't think they've changed that you're speeding you get three points what do you think uh just a few speeding tickets a year and a half ago and whatnot and what do you think I should kind of do or should I even continue with the process? It's funny, he says a few. Is that two or three?

I think it's three. What do you think? What should I do with that? And what being said in my statements about that is I've interacted with at least 50 to 60 different police officers at different types of levels, whether it's volunteering, whether traffic stops, whether a lot of traffic stops in high school, but never once had any type of bad traffic stop or whether I saw it unsafe or I had to record or it was always just nice.

Talk to them, just kind of, they told me what I did wrong, apologized for it right then and there. And, you know, they nine times out of ten reduced my ticket like dramatically. Nine times out of ten, they reduce your ticket. How many takes you get? Ten? They reduce your ticket. They reduce your ticket.

You want to know why they reduce your ticket. So you don't go to court. We're all taught that. You know, you pull over anybody. I don't even know what the fines are right now. Let's say $368 for excessive speeding. Speeding against a highway sign. That's the first thing you would say.

You know what? I can give you a $368 fine right now. but I'm only giving you a $168 fine. Okay? Why do they do that? So you don't go to court. Cops pretend... I shouldn't say that.

To give you a deal. They pretend to give you a deal so you don't go to court. And then you do. Then we're really pissed off. God. Now I have to remember that I pulled you over? It's four right then and there. And, you know, they nine times out of ten

reduced my ticket like dramatically in kind of, dramatically. Talk to me about other things after words. Wish me the best. Want to tell my wife. That's because they don't want you to go to court. Wait. And that's kind of what inspired me to become a police officer.

So it's just when I hear people saying, oh, well, all costs are bad. All costs are racist. It just, it doesn't make sense to me. But anyways. Brenda Lucky. There's more to it. I hope you have a wonderful day. And again, there's K-Hull.

So I'll call you, call you every now and then. Take care. Every now and then. Please do. Dude, call me every now and then, and thank you for being a black man. You know what? I think you asked me, what do you think you got a few speeding tickets? You just keep on applying.

It doesn't matter what you have. Applying cannot hurt you. You just keep on applying. God, man, I had, I had like four tickets. I wrote a letter to P.K. Jackman to warn him that you're about to get four tickets. tickets and I need my license because I deliver Chinese food and I work at Safeway. And I continue with the process. I don't know what it's like in your province.

I've passed a cop out the lake on a double solid line. And he gave me six points, two tickets, six points. And I was trying to become a cop. Just a young kid. I had a girl in the passenger seat. I think she was in the passenger. He wouldn't be in the back seat. Of course she's in the passenger seat, Colleen.

Yeah, that was dumb. I'm like, why would this car pull out in front of me from the parking lot? Idiot, I thought. So I just, on a double-soled line, I was going to round them, and then it was a ghost car, those lights went on. But in BC, your tickets go away in five years. Like when they run your ICBC report, you can't see them. So if you get one ticket, it goes away.

in five years, it's no longer on your record. That's how it used to be. See, the police don't want to hire you with a bunch of points and a bunch of tickets. Don't have more than, you're fine with one ticket, but don't have more than one ticket within five years. And I might be wrong when I say this, okay? Things have changed. So continue to apply. But they don't want you becoming a cop, and then you lose in your license. Because you will lose your license, whatever rule it is in your province, they're going to add up the points. And if you have so many points in one year, two year, three year,

they're going to take your license away for a little bit. So when you apply, they want to be like, okay, he's only got three points. Okay, he's got zero points. Perfect. Nothing to worry about. But if you've got three points and you become a cop and you get six more points, they might take your license away. You know, I was going to talk about so much more.

I was going to talk about so much more. And maybe I will. Maybe I will. But I don't know if I'm right because I've had a couple of nudes. And I don't know if I'm going to do this article justice, but somebody sent me this article. And I dug into it. I dug into it.

And I'm like, I was for the police. I'm like, yeah. Get these little bastards. Do you want to hear about it? Maybe I'll tell you. And it's kind of a work thing that I'm going through my head with why there's certain areas, certain cities in Canada that are in the dumps and they can't get out of it. Aboriginal communities, native communities that are, I mean, I've been thinking about this for three years.

Why are a thing, why is there overrepresentation? Why are they committing so much crime, even though we won't come out and say that? I mean, that's why there's an overrepresentation in jails, of course. It's not that jails are racist. It's not that police are racist. It's because they're committing crimes. And then I reviewed this article and I thought, how do you break the cycle? How do you break the cycle?

I know we're a guest on your land. Okay? I know I'm punished for that. My kids are punished. We have to recognize that we're guests on your land. But how long do we say sorry for? How long do we shell out money for? How long does this go on for?

Does a cycle ever end? Will it ever end? And this is actually a pretty good article. And at the end of it, we're probably not going to have an answer. had this subscriber send me an article and I'm not going to show you the article because I googled something else and it's a statement from the RCMP and the statement is chamatois I don't know if I'm saying that right chamatois RCMP officers repeatedly injured and I thought and then I started reading the article and I'm like God what's wrong with these people what is wrong with these sickos

Let's read the article. I'm not briefly. This is what's going on. Man, lucky. Lucky didn't fix shit. I can't believe we ignore this stuff. Could you imagine being at Depot?

You're going to Shamatoa. That's where you're going. I'd be like, no. No. No. No. And I'm telling you right now, if you're a member and Depot,

and you get that, Posting? You don't go. You don't go. Okay? You quit. Hear me out. I can't believe what I've seen. In the past 10 months, RCMP officers in the community have repeatedly been assaulted and the detachment has been targeted for arson. Let's start with February 1st of this year. 1130 at night, these RCMP members, they go to a disturbance on Hudson Street. just the party was taken place and elders were being kicked out of residences, whatever that means.

Police began to disperse. Okay, what happens? What's the bottom line? Officer placed female under arrest. As the officer was doing so, a group of 20 people, adults and youth physically pushed officers away. Officers left, they get another call, right? Because that's what happens all the time. go back, guess what happens? Officers were again attacked. The police vehicle was smashed with a

two by four. Officers were punched, kicked, and effing bitten. Heavy items were also thrown at officers causing significant injury to one officer who was hit in the face. Isn't that lovely? And so when I'm reading this, I'm like, oh, I'm going to lose it. Oh, no. this community. December 15th, 2020, 8 p.m. Disturbance call when they show up a group of 20 or more people, both adults and youth, they surround them. They were attacked by the group and suffered injuries ranging from bruised faces to chip teeth.

Who just called me? April 3rd, 2022, they go to a structure fire on Fox Road in the community. The residence is engulfed in flames. Officers worked to keep at a distance of the residence, and there was also a down power line. The local fire truck was non-operational, so firefighters were not on scene. A group of use, 11 to 14, attempted to walk toward the residence.

They received a warning when they said, Nah, we don't care. Several of them were arrested. While the arrest occurred, the cops were surrounded. They surrounded an officer and began to kick and punch the officer. He suffered injuries from the attack. And then what happens after? Three youth attend the outside of the detachment and delts the front steps with flammable fluid.

They tried to burn it down. How old were they? 11, 13, and 13. All arrested. It is believed intoxicants played a round. rule. It's a shithole. It is a complete. This place is a complete shithole. That's the truth. It puts Hastings Street to shame. You want to see hell on earth? So I did a little bit of dicking before I was going to talk about it. I was going to really punish these youths.

Watch the digging that I did. R.CMP should not criminalize boy 12 accused in chamois fire chief says, 2016, they have a fire, guys. Youth set fire to the only band office and the only grocery store there. You got to hear it. Settles in over Shemadawa on the quiet banks of God's River. Nancy Thomas is feeling anxious. I always get up, even if I hear a noise. So this is after the fire that was set in this little town. And this is the mum. Don't fall asleep. Just listen to this. So I just get up, just walk around the yard, even at nights. I think that's what everybody's doing.

The 55-year-old watched her community's band office and only grocery store burned to the ground a week and a half ago. There were at least two other arsons earlier this summer. There's even little kids are threatening. Other people now when they sleep that they're going to set the fire. while they're sleeping. So people are afraid. Where we're standing right now,

this would have been the entrance to Shemadawa's only store. And over in that corner over there, that would have been the band office. All of this burned to the ground, just meters from that building. That's the fire hall. And in talking to the people in the community here, this hole is highlighting just that,

a gap, a void in opportunities for youth here. These games tables from the community's only rec center, have been cleared out to make room for a temp... You think they're making that up? Do you see this, guys? Look, they're playing bubble hockey, but the bubble hockey's broken. I know the news is there, and they're beefing it up.

But you know what you're seeing. You see what you see. You see it. These games tables from the community's only rec center have been cleared out to make room for a temporary store. The Red Cross has also flown up emergency supplies. All of this, the kids involved remain in the community. Five are too young to be charged. A 12-year-old boy is

facing charges, but Chief Jeff Napa Kee... Five kids in 2016 set fire to this place. Most of them are under 12. Only one 12-year-old charged with us because he can't charge under 12. Isick is one of many here who say the boy should not be held criminally responsible. I don't blame them at all. We just blame ourselves. We could have done back. We could have done A combination of isolation, addiction and other social problems are taking their toll here. Over at the school, principal... They're sucking on glue to get high. Here's the principal.

Lawrence Inerson is working to establish a local crisis response team. He says charging any of the kids would be detrimental. It's a band-age solution to taking them away from the community. I mean, they'll come back. They'll re-offend again. Thomas, the retired mental health counselor, believes the deeper problem, is kids in Shemanoa are struggling to cope with a lot of death.

Last year, the community of just 1,000 people saw four youth suicides. 2015, four suicides by youth. What are you doing about that, Lucky? You should be shaking up about that. There's only a thousand people that live there, and it gets worse. I was thinking. Listen, listen to this. A lot of grieving, a lot of their friends commit suicide.

Thomas is surrounded by grief herself. This calendar marks the dates. Her daughter was killed in a house fire in night. Her daughter, 10 months killed in a house fire. 1884. A decade later, another daughter died by suicide. Her other daughter commits suicide. And just last fall, her son froze to death.

Her friends. Oh, my God. her son froze to death. She got nobody. I think her even, her father died of cancer, or her husband. But do you,

like for us sitting back here and watching this, this happens everywhere. This has happened, this happens in tons of communities around Canada. And what do we do? We don't fix it. We give them money. We call them a victim.

and obviously they are. But where do you break the cycle? How do you break the cycle? I'm not done talking about this. I probably shouldn't have just said what I just said. Everybody's grieving. You can't even finish grieving. Like it's on top of each other.

For now, she wants all of the kids to be heard and supported through counseling. But she knows there's so much work to be done to heal this community. Jill Kubra, CBC News, Shemadawa. It's incredible to me. It's heartbreaking to me. It really is heartbreaking when I really dug into it. It's heartbreaking. All they do is declare a state of emergency in this town.

In 2021, a mother commits suicide. Another lady commits suicide and a seven-year-old attempt suicide where she's in a coma. In critical condition. I don't even know she lived. 2015 99 tempts of suicide there's nobody that lives here 2016 the same number murder stabbings people dying in house fires sniffing glue and anything they could get their hands on absolutely nothing for the kids to do how about the school you want to know about the schooling you want to know what happened in 2017 there was no teachers these kids burt down six units that the teachers were staying in. This is a fly-in city, guys. This is a fly-in. It's 700 kilometers southeast of Winnipeg or something like that. The only way in is you fly yet. You can't get teachers there. They don't want to go there. And did you know that fire that I just showed you,

where the fire was on the band office at the grocery store? Again, no fire truck. The fire truck was broken again. It wasn't in use. It seems like every time they have a fire, which they do all the time. I was a cop. That's all kids do is start fires when you're in a bad environment. It's a fire every single night. They don't even have a fire truck that works. Two occasions that I just told you about.

And the fire truck, it's not existent. Why isn't that racist? Of course, I'm being silly. 300 children are in the care of child welfare in a community of roughly 1,500. It's not 1,500. it's way less. It's probably a thousand. Teachers really don't want to come here. No kidding. Two grade three teachers resigned Wednesday. Obviously. Listen to this. They need teachers for

grade three, grade four, five, and seven as well as high school English teacher, two resource teachers and a vice principal. They started their school year with no teachers. You know what you do. You shut the community down. You save the kids. You shut it down. You get them out of there. They're walking around like zombies dying and committing suicide. No cop wants to work there.

No cop should have the responsibility of working there. Shut that community down. Get them out of there. It ain't working. More kids are going to commit. suicide. More kids are going to die. More kids are going to do some more stabins and some more murders. A seven year old, 12 year olds are doing this kind of thing. And it just, and I have to sit back here and just say, well, we did this to them. It's our fault because I'm a guest on your land.

What is that going to fix? How is that going to fix anything? There's a cultural, cultural problem, no matter how it started, the cycle needs to be broken. We need to break that cycle. Give them money to these kids or the families isn't going to do anything. We don't address the real problem. And I don't even know if you can. But I'm thinking, like those kids that are committing all those crimes, those little children, they're going to have kids.

What are their kids going to do? and then what are their kids going to do you keep this community going it's a cycle that just keeps on going on and on and on and it's going to be a hundred years from now we're going to still be talking about 1606 we're going to be talking about 1888 we're going to be talking about how the white man did this to them okay that's not right that's not right so what are you doing to fix it we got to fix it. What we're doing is not fixing anything. And I don't know the answers.

I'm not smart enough to know the answers. And I feel bad for them. I mean, yeah, there is a over-representation in the jail system because they're committing the crime. And they got no life. Of course they're going to commit crime. They got nothing to do. They don't got parents.

There's no father. We all know you need a father. You need a mom. But they don't got that. 300 of them are in foster care. There's only a thousand people in this town. So when Lucky retires, I think of this stuff. I'm like, it just pops in my head.

Like, oh, good job, Lucky. You knew this was going on? I didn't know this was going on. Did you know this was going on? This goes on in a lot of communities in Canada. We don't really do anything. We shout them. Where is Mark Miller?

Mark Miller, where are you? You shut down this community. You get them out. You save them. You get them out of there. That's hell on earth. That is complete hell on earth. What did I write here?

Did I write anything at the end? No. I couldn't imagine being a cop in that town. Oh my God. Like during the day, it's kind of okay. And then the nighttime, it's like, ah! Like, oh. Fire, fire, fire.

Murder, death, kill. Suicide. Like I hope that's a two-year LDP. I hope members can only spend two years at that place. You spend more than that? You're going to commit suicide. Nobody should live this way. Somebody needs to step in.

If they can't break the cycle, which they can't, you need to step in and break the cycle. Okay, I got, why am I yelling? Really got serious. Okay, I'm going to shut this off. Thanks for watching. Bye-bye.