Clinton Jaws - Why The RCMP is Becoming Weaker
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Clinton Jaws, guys.
There's a website out there called Clintonjaws.com.
Go to it.
I'm going to start off by with an apology.
I'm going to say sorry for something that I did.
A couple nights ago I was out at the lake.
Had a few drinks.
And I'm sitting on the couch outside.
It's warm out.
I'm in a good mood.
I go on Facebook and don't do this when you've had a couple of drinks.
But I go on Facebook and I go to MP mates.
That's just a group that I'm attached to.
It's a bunch of cops on it.
And this guy, his name's...
hell. I think his name's
hell. I don't know.
I had a couple drinks. I can't remember his name.
And what he says,
he makes a post.
And it basically,
I'm going to get it wrong, but it basically says,
hey, whatever you do,
I don't want to hear anybody
putting down the commissioner. I don't want to hear
any personal attacks.
Because the commissioner has spent a couple of days
at the mass casualty commission.
testifying a little.
And he warns everybody.
If you attack her,
I'm going to report you.
So of course I made a comment and it was,
oh, poor you, something about poor you.
She called everybody racist, okay?
She basically called every employee in the RCMP racist.
And you're going to get upset that we might poke some fun towards her way?
Did I say that right?
Poke some fun?
Yeah.
Make fun of her a little.
And I think that's all I said.
I think I talked about her diet.
And then I wake up in the morning and sure is, I guess, hell reported it because the post is removed.
And the reason why I checked it in the morning was because I was going to delete my comment.
I didn't like it.
I didn't like that.
I said, poor you.
I thought that was dumb.
It was immature.
I don't want to be one of those people's.
You know what I mean?
And so I was going to delete it, but it was already deleted.
They deleted.
And then the head of MP mates came on and said, I don't know,
he made some kind of mention of, uh,
he had to delete the thread because,
I don't know, I didn't really read it, but anyways, hell, I'm sorry, okay?
And,
sorry for attacking your, your leader.
And you know what?
This is what we're going to be doing right now.
I've watched every word
that Brenda Lucky testified to.
And I'm going to show you some stuff.
There's going to be a series, a series of videos.
Who's the RCMP Commissioner, guys?
It's Brenda Lucky.
Okay.
This is for people in America.
She's the top dog in the RCMP, okay?
She's the biggest leader.
One of the biggest leaders in Canada when it comes to policing.
And they've covered everything with her, just about everything.
she has to she has to discuss that if she did actually um interfere with an investigation did she actually
politically interfere we're going to cover that but well i just want to start at the beginning
i just want to start at the beginning because there's just so many there's so much material here
i swear to god and hell i'll try not to attack your leader
But let the doys begin.
Let's just start off right here.
You got to see this.
Let's just start off.
This is basically the beginning.
Brenda Lucky's talking to a lady named last name Young.
They called her Miss Young.
I don't know who she is.
I looked her up.
She's in charge of some kind of trails in Halifax.
She's attached to a lot of boards.
Anyways, they have a conversation.
And we're going to go over it.
Okay, I'm going to give a compliment.
Before we start, Brenda Lucky said a lot of good things.
I know.
She did.
She said a lot of good things.
She handled herself some of the questions, which I couldn't do personally.
Well, yeah, I could.
But some of the questions she answered really well.
Maybe I'll show one.
I also want to say there was a person who killed 22 people, a heinous crime,
a highly motivated person that was there to do harm, who actually,
did a lot of planning. Could we have figured that out beforehand? Maybe we could have figured out
parts of it. But if somebody is that highly motivated to do harm, we use the response we have,
but it doesn't always work. If somebody wants to kill somebody, they can kill somebody. And that's
unfortunate. And so I really think that they have done extremely well under the circumstances.
I like that.
I liked her closing remarks.
Not the very end remarks,
but just right before that.
I like what she had to say.
But that's not what I'm going to focus on, okay?
I guess, because that's not fun.
It's not fun.
Oh, there are so many dumb things.
So many dumb things.
Just watch us.
Watch us.
Maybe I'm the only one that thinks it's dumb.
But I want you to watch this.
Since I became Commissioner, I created what I call the Chiefs of Police Roundtable.
We talk about a lot of different commonalities and issues.
Who are the members of that organization?
There is one to two representatives from each province and territory,
and its policing chiefs, its chiefs of various police agencies,
representing big municipalities, small indigenous police agencies,
and medium size across from coast to coast.
to coast to coast.
Is that a voluntary body focused on policy making?
It's focused on issues such as systemic racism was one of the issues, which led into
crisis intervention and de-escalation.
Isn't that amazing?
Yeah, it's easy to say, right?
It's easy just to skip out, but go over.
It's easy to just glide over.
She meets with all these police chiefs around Canada.
Canada, and they talk about systemic racism. The fairy tale, systemic racism. What do they talk about?
How do they fix systemic racism? De-escalation skills. De-escalation training. That's how, that's what
they came up with. What does de-escalation have to do with racism? Can you give me an example?
They never do. Can you think of one? Leave a comment. That's what they got out of it. We're going to fix
systemic racism with more trading with de-escalation.
Because apparently, I guess we're too escalated
when it comes to certain groups in Canada.
I don't know. I'm just guessing.
Ridiculous. Waste of time.
I just wanted to say that.
Different police forces speaking with one voice
is not always well received by other chiefs of police.
For example, in Nova Scotia,
the perception of some municipal chiefs of police was
the RCMP just wanted that one voice
to be the voice of the RCN.
So how do you deal with that?
I agree with you.
When I first got in the chair, I kept hearing the expression, the big red machine.
I went, honestly, that's not who we are.
That's not who we want to be.
What was wrong with being the big red, red machine?
Hmm?
We definitely aren't now, are we?
I don't even really understand what that means.
The RCMP has become girly.
It's like we have to, members of the RCMP have to feel guilty.
They've made so many members of the RCMP have to feel guilty.
They've made so many members of that.
feel guilty about themselves.
Because we're racists.
And when you're a racist,
when people call you a racist,
you'll walk around feeling guilty.
This is what she's done to the organization.
And you know what?
That's such a good point, Clint.
It really has become,
I have no problem with girls.
But it's really become girly.
Think about it.
Trudeau gets hired.
He makes
his, he doesn't focus on the strongest core around him. He makes his whole cabinet 50% girls.
He's not looking to hire the best. He's looking to hire females. And I don't know if I'm
saying that right. I think he understand what I mean. And what does he do after? He wants to hire,
I don't want to get into this right now, but he came out and said, I'm hiring a girl commissioner. I'm not
looking for the best person, just a girl. I'm going to overlook all the boys, and my focus is going
to be on a girl. It's kind of a pretty important position, wouldn't you say? I'll touch on that
later. And you wouldn't believe what Lucky did when she got hired, when she became commissioner,
we're going to find that out later. Good God. In your experience, can the culture of the RC&P
be a barrier to accepting recommendations for change? Anything can be a
absolutely but in my experience since I've been commissioner I've never seen such a
great willingness for people to change our generations thrive on change and
especially when it comes to anything training tactical equipment uniform
uniform willingness there's a willingness to change we weren't too willing to
get rid of the blue line patch from our uniform were we apparently we were
Anything that can make them respond better or more...
By the way, she tried to get rid of it.
Because it's racist.
Efficiently or more effectively, they're on it.
Like, there's, you don't even have to manage that change.
They're just begging for more and more.
But when you're looking at things that aren't operational, like culture change,
and looking at things when you talk about systemic racism or systemic barriers,
sometimes it's harder.
And that's when I...
Of course, it's harder.
because we don't believe in it.
We don't believe that we're systemically racist.
She wants to change the culture.
What's wrong with the culture?
Okay, there's Boolean.
Yeah, change that.
But her focus is on systemic racism.
Shouldn't the focus be on more important things like Boolean?
PTSD?
Mental health of the member?
Not mental health of the clients.
Of the members.
And she just said, you know, it's a little tougher, you know, when we try to change a culture
with systemic racism, they're not really, uh, that's a little bit more difficult.
Because you're the only one that believes in it.
Having people buy into it, um, you know, you have to make sure that people buy into it
because otherwise you might, it's a really a waste of time.
And so it's right, lucky.
A complete waste of time.
they're not buying into it
because they don't believe in it
they know it's wrong
they know it doesn't exist
I never met one racist cop
that I worked with never
it just doesn't exist
are there racist police officers
of course but I'm not talking about
a minority
such a tiny
if there is it's such a tiny
percentage
and her focus
is on weeding out
systemic racism
in the RCMP because everybody's racist.
We've got to change these policies and procedures, which ones we don't ever hear.
I guess de-escalation, because that's the old de-escalation was too racist.
She just said it.
You have to buy into it, and if you don't buy into it, then what happens?
It's a waste of time.
Are we still racist?
Has anybody asked her that?
Has anybody asked her recently, hey, is there still systemic racism in the RCN?
P? She's been working her butt off on it. What's her answer? Is her answer yes or is it no? It's going to be yes
because fairy tales never go away. What has she done about systemic racism? She came out with 17 initiatives.
So it must be eliminated, right? What were her words? And what did she say? She said this a long time ago.
We're looking at those systems and those processes that will eliminate systemic racism.
Well, is it eliminated?
Pesha came up with 17 initiatives.
De-escalation training.
Response to mental health calls, because we're not doing that right, I guess.
That's racist.
This is what they came up with.
Anti-racism training.
Thank God for that.
Cultural and humility training.
Okay.
Oh, this is great.
Indignuous co-development collaboration and accountability
office. Her words are, we want to eliminate systemic racism. Is it ever gone? In 10 years, it won't be
gone. There's going to be a new commissioner saying in the systemic racism. But her focus was to
eliminate it. So I think it's right to ask her now, do you still believe their systemic racism in
the RCMP? Do you believe the RCMP is systemically racist? Ask her now. When will we ever
be able to say, no, it's not? Okay. There is no, there is no, there is no, there is no
systemic racism in the RCMP? When are we going to actually be able to say that?
Never, because it doesn't exist. Waste of time. Damn rights. Complete failure, really.
If she admits that it's still, there's still systemic racism? She's failed. She's completely
failed if she admits that there's still systemic racism in the RCMP. It's one of the main reasons
people don't want to become police officers. People don't want to become RCMP members because of her.
it's one of the main reasons we have a resource problem not enough applicants it has completely
dropped guys it's going to the rcmp they are going to be eliminated in certain areas of
canada because of her we don't got enough cops there's no way we can maintain it now because she's
focused on changing the culture piece is so terrible but you never hear an example like what are
are we doing wrong? What is the RCMP doing wrong? You go to these calls. You have a guy that wants
to kill 22 people. He's going to kill 22 people. All my career, after these bad things happen,
people sit down at a desk, they discuss it. And yeah, they do come up with some good things
out of it. Like the carbines came out of it eventually, even though Heidi Stevenson didn't have a
carbine because she didn't pass the training, which is ridiculous.
So good things do come from it, but man, the training we go through. A cop is a cop, guys.
Can we not just focus on being proud? How do you get that back when you got her sitting there?
Talking about all the changes that we got to make because it's such, such a bad organization.
She's the reason why the RCMP is falling apart. I know every commissioner before her.
They weren't all that great either.
this is what happens when you don't pick the best this is what happens when you're forced to pick a girl
and that how's she doing guys did we pick the best and i'm not saying that a girl could not be
the commissioner of the rcmp i love working with girls okay believe me i love girls i married one
but the focus was not on picking the best we proved we didn't man man i wanted to
to do a bunch of videos on this and I wanted them to be each 10 minutes long because when you
go over 10 minutes nobody watches it but I can't help it there's so many dumb things that are said
here sorry Hal it has to be ideas have to come from the bottom up you can't just say to yourself
I'm the commissioner of the RCMP and my senior executive committee is we're right and this is
what we're going to do that's exactly what you're doing what you're talking about you can't
make this up because um well the old
expression, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. So how do they become part of the solution, part of the ideas?
And we've seen it with Vision 150 and the buy-in and the excitement around that. And we've really been able to push the envelope and move the yardstick quite a bit in those initiatives.
Have you seen that mentality change over the years since 1986?
Sorry, Chi.
Have you seen the approach to change change since 1986?
Yes, yes.
In 1986, yikes.
What the hell happened in 1986?
I googled it.
I couldn't figure it out.
What are they talking about?
Yikes, she says.
1986, yikes.
Around 1986, I went on a ride-along in Port-au-Burney.
I was a kid.
I was going to school.
And I thought it was pretty awesome.
It's why I became a police officer.
But apparently, 1986 was horrific.
It was yikes.
Things are.
We're going to hear why it was yikes, I'm sure.
I can't remember this.
Yes, 1986, yikes.
You know, it's interesting when I was on the, when I was part a commanding officer and I would go to Ottawa and see the big table.
And I remember it was very rank conscious.
And it was on one side of the table was all the people from Ottawa.
And on the other side of the table were all, there was only two female COs.
Two, too many.
I'm kidding. Okay, I'm kidding. Come on. Jesus. This is why 1986 was like, she's telling you. She's explaining it to you.
And we were all on one side of the table and the lower your rank, the further you were from the center. It was very rank conscious.
Maybe we should bring that back. And I remember in this, I was not thinking of being the commissioner at this point, but I said if I was ever commissioner, I would never have this table. I hate this table. I hate what this table represents.
Well, how's her table? How's her table doing, guys?
A lot better?
And so when I got there, I had the opportunity.
I remember bringing up something at that table and getting shut down.
It's because it was a stupid idea.
Okay?
Of course we're going to shut you down.
I can't help it.
This is what she's talking about, something like 40 years ago.
She's bringing up an example from 40 years ago.
Don't we always go back, way back, to bring up an example?
It was Expo 86.
That's the only thing that happened in 1980s.
But here we are talking about it.
You ever think that maybe
1986 was better than 2022?
Hmm?
How stupid.
There were only two girls.
There were only two girls at this meeting.
Girls don't apply, guys.
Okay?
That sounds pretty good.
There aren't very many.
I'll bring up the stat.
Like I brought it up in an old video.
Hardly any girls are applying to become a cop.
And when they do apply,
obviously not all of them get in that apply.
lie. That's why
1986 is yikes because she went to this meeting
and there's only two girls and people were sitting on the other side
of it. You should have been happy that you're
invited to the meeting. You know
why they needed a big table, right?
Shouldn't have said that. Be respectful, Clint.
I just, she thinks
she's a winner. She thinks she's sitting out of the park.
She said to herself that day
when I become commissioner.
Well, what?
You're doing a better job?
I don't know. I feel like I'm
Bashing girls, but I'm not, okay?
I loved working with girls.
Girl cops are great.
Most of them I found are great.
And so I don't want you thinking that I'm bashing female officers.
Bashing.
Because I'm not anymore.
Kidding.
Okay, let's just continue.
We're all, there was only two female COs,
and we were all on one side of the table.
And the lower your rank, the further you were from the center.
It was very rank conscious.
And I remember, and this, I was not thinking of being the commissioner at this point, but I said if I was ever commissioner, I would never have this table.
I hate this table. I hate what this table represents.
And so when I got there, I had the opportunity.
I remember bringing up something at that table and getting shut down.
And I said, that is not conducive to creativity, innovation, hearing people's points of view.
So it was really important to me when I got in the chair to create a table where people
could speak honestly and forthright be respectful be respectful like you did with leah scantlin and
darren campbell i'm getting you know i'm told that she's called people horrible human i don't know if
it's true i'm told that she said to them during a meeting you let the boys down is that respectful
something about you being the worst person i ever worked with don't know if it's true that's what i was
told. I was told she said some pretty, I don't know why we're not hearing it all.
Leah Scanlan said that she said, you let the boys down. Commissioner Lucky denies it.
And I don't know why Campbell and Bergerman haven't come out and said, yeah, she said it.
This is actually really confusing me. But I'm getting the impression that the meeting that she had,
everybody was just listening to what she had to say. And she told everybody how disappointed
she was, that she promised, she promised Trudeau,
that she would get the list of guns.
It's very important.
We got to, we got to, it'll save Canadians when he passes this gun legislation.
Oh, I got so much to say, guys.
But she talks about, like, having a respectful workplace and a respectful table
where everybody can voice their opinions?
Right.
Speak honestly and forthright, be respectful, challenge the commissioner, challenge the senior executive committee, challenge the commanding officers, and be able to speak freely.
And we can do it in breakout sessions, we can do it together in groups, we're at round tables, people are mixed and matched, rank, there is no rank in that table.
And I'm really proud of that. And when I got to the table, first of all, when I first joined the RCMP, every single senior executive was a white male.
and was a police officer.
Oh my God.
God forbid they were white.
Those white males, here we go.
That's who applied.
Lucky.
White males.
Still today, the majority,
are males.
White males.
Indignious population, they don't want to become police officers.
Very few apply.
It's always been that way.
Very few females apply.
But she wants the rid of the white male.
When I was going through the process, I was told by recruiting,
sorry, Clint, your mark ain't high enough.
We're only taking 65 white males this year because so many apply.
That was their reasoning.
Oh, I can't believe she said that.
So what'd she do about that?
Let's rewind that at Titch.
Well, when I first joined the RCMP, every single senior executive was a white
male and was a police officer. Now my senior executive committee is a mix of civilians and regular
members. There's males and there's more females actually. We have diversity in experience,
diversity in color. We have diversity in gender. Oh, that's important. And our commanding officers,
when I came in as commissioner, there was two commanding officers that were female. At one point, we were
over 50% female. We're a little bit below 50% because of some of the changes. And I'm so proud,
of that because it's it just lends so many different lenses to everything and we do so that's what she did
do you get the sense do you see how girly the rcmpe has become she purposely put more females replaced
males male pas not male replace males with more females she said more females not the best
just more females.
Trudeau makes his cabinet, 50% female.
He hires a female commissioner.
She steps in, overlooks the boys,
and puts more females on her cabinet.
What else?
We don't focus on the best.
We focus on diversity.
We focus on race and gender.
That's what we're focusing on.
Not the best.
Race and gender.
And that's why she's commissioner.
Because she's a girl.
That's what Trudeau said.
I'm hiring a girl.
Has to be a girl.
That's why she's in the position.
Now, doesn't that seem a little squirly to you?
I'll tell you why.
I don't have a problem with a girl.
But I do have a problem with you overlooking all the boys
because they're boys.
And that's what she's doing.
Punish the white boy.
She just said it.
Who's racist?
If anything, she's making the RC&P racist.
because of her actions. Think about this. I'm getting heated. Let's say I become Commissioner of Nursing.
Okay, and on my first day, I walk in and I notice that there's only 20% boys. And I'm like, what?
We don't have enough males. So I'm going to make it 55% more males. I'm going to replace the ladies with men.
I don't care how good you are. Sorry, Sally. You're a rock.
star, but you're a girl, okay? I'm picking Phillip because he has a cock. We need more cocks.
Where are the cocks? Cox need only to apply. And they better be large cocks. Sounds pretty dumb,
doesn't it? Yeah, that's because it is. What she did is stupid. You know what's dumber?
Making her commissioner. Inclusive. So everything's about being more inclusive,
more inclusive, more diverse and more accountable. And more girly. And extremely weak. We're
getting the we're getting the hell beat out of us we really are nobody will stand up to anybody
these guys won't stand up to anybody you don't say there's systemic racism because there isn't
you just say there isn't any be stern maybe you need more boys on your cabinet because i'm
thinking what you did was pretty racist i couldn't do it because i'd be called a racist if i walked
into nursing we need more boys you're out of here
I'm picking the best.
Anyways, you know what?
I got more of these.
I'm gonna throw up a bunch more,
and I don't know, I'm a little nervous saying what I'm saying.
I'm just saying how I feel.
And yikes.
