Club 520 Podcast - 520 In The Morning - Jeff Teague on De’Aaron Fox trade rumors, Heat to trade Jimmy Butler, Tyrese Maxey COOKED Lakers

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

On the Tuesday, January 28 episode of 520 in the Morning, Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen react to De’Aaron Fox wanting to be traded from the Sacramento Kings, and reportedly wanting to play alongside Victor Wembanyama on the San Antonio Spurs. The guys then react to the Miami Heat lowering their price on Jimmy Butler, and discuss possible landing spots for when they inevitably trade the star. Jeff and the fellas discuss Tyrese Maxey’s rise to stardom as he went for 40 against the Lakers and COOKED Bronny James throughout the night. 0:00 - De'Aaron Fox 15:00 - Tyrese Maxey cooking 26:00 - Trae Young scuffle 35:00 - Verified Bucket #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. The Volume. Good morning. Happy Wednesday. 520 in the morning. Your favorite sports show here. What's happening, y'all? Oh, you just put him in.

First of all, he has made his own phone case. Yeah. I thought you actually had the slots in the back of that. You just paused, you just sit back there and just put your phone in there. That's crazy.

Shout out to my favorite people, the Arabians. We locked in in Calcedon. So I keep everything. They not even Arabian. Shout out to the Arabians, apparently. Wednesday morning.

Bishop Hendricks, my brother Teague Fellas, how y'all doing today? Can I come over? Okay, that's what you were jamming with today? Yeah I worked out this morning Can I come over? Nah, we was playing mouth

I gotta hit the gym early today? Yeah, we went to the gym early today Okay, why Mike didn't pull up? He got a bellyache. Bellyache sounds crazy. Respect. Listen, man. It's been lit in the basketball world, man. Let's go ahead and get straight to it,

man. De'Aaron Fox said it's time. I don't care about this win streak. I don't care how good we've been playing. Get me the fuck out of here. I wonder why, though. Hmm. Why do you think he want to leave? I thought Doug Christie was making it. that we've been playing. Get me the fuck out of here. I wonder why, though. Why do you think he want to leave? I thought Doug Christie was making it. You know what I mean?

Doug Christie doing everything he could, but... I'm just asking y'all as a... You know, everybody love basketball. We all wanted to be the guy before. You the guy. Wally being the guy. Because I'm in Sacramento. You're probably ready to really fight to win. Like, I think he said

Wimby. I don't want to misquote Deere, but I think he want to go play with Wimby in San Antonio. He doesn't want to go to a big market. He just want to play with a top quality player. Are they going to... Is that a winning team with him and Wimby? I think he's ready to build with somebody

like Wimby. Oh, the future. The future's bright. Now with De'Aaron Fox there, now another motherfucker might pull up on him. All right. I like that. Listen, let's go. We can start. I like your question.

You said, why would you want to leave? I think that all the things he's probably asked for, he hasn't received. Like, hey, I keep asking y'all for wing help. I mean, I did get Malik Monk for sure, but the things I've asked y'all to upgrade, y'all didn't upgrade. I tried to get a solid coach that I rock with. All right, cool.

We got Mike Brown. That was my guy. You fired my guy. I've had a history of being inconsistent. Like, every time y'all need to add, like, roster help, y'all just go do some wild shit.

Y'all keep getting guards. Y'all did draft two guards while I was there. For no reason that you didn't need to fill that position. And then you get rid of the one that, I don't know, I would leave too. What the fuck are y'all doing?

I like De'Aaron Fox, bro. But it's hard for people to come to Sactown, bro. It's St. Bibi and them Sactown, bro. It's different. In the organization, everybody talks about how piss poor they're at. So, yeah, I can understand why. If I ain't getting nothing here, I'm leaving, bro. Sack damn near New Orleans, bro.

But same type of franchise, bro. Top dogs, for sure, with their draft picks, but you can't bring no veteran help. Acadia never go play in sack. They got Debo to go there.

Nah, Debo, you know what I mean? Debo is, he like us, bro. Like, you feel me? He just wanna, he just wanna hoop. KD wanna hoop too, but KD trying to win the championship. Debo just love to hoop. Not saying he don't wanna win the championship, but I think players like that, this nigga was trying to go play with Wimby,

bro. He's trying to go play with generational talent. Nah, I feel him. I mean, seven years. Having a chance, yeah, having a chance to go play with Wimby in San Antonio, I don't think it's going to happen. But, I understand. But you got to give up the game, though,

if you say San Antonio. Right now, the way that he played this on Masterfleet, probably a first in the young talent. How he play at Masterfleet? Because he didn't like officially push their, you know what I'm saying, push the button until now.

And they have like less than a week to figure this shit out. If he'd have drawn us out, it could have been, they could have got a bigger point. I think he got one more year on his deal though. Yeah, but yeah, he's going to be gone. So they got a whole nother year

to figure out a chart. He's going to be gone by next week. I'll be very surprised if he's on the team. We're just probably going for that shit. Yeah, we'll be gone. I get it, week. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't get a team. We're just probably going for that shit. Yeah. That's where we're going. I get it, but... I'll say just chill. Me personally,

but, you know, I ain't daring him, but... He did seven years, bro. He did a bit in Sacramento. Y'all know me. Anybody offer me a max extension? I feel you. Sign me up.

Yeah. Hey, look, sign me up. But I understand if you want to go get out of there. He from Texas, too. Might want to be get out of there. He from Texas too. Might want to be closer to the crib. But he from Houston. I saw some, you know, people

speculating about the Rockets and the Rockets are just like, hey, shout out to De'Aaron, but we just gonna figure it out. We ain't messing this up right now. We gonna see how long we can ride his balls. That don't make sense. Well, it'd be nasty though if it got him. That's too much. Hear me out. If you gave up

Fred Van Fleet, Jabari in the first, could they get the job done for the year? Yes. Jalen plays the two? Yes. De'Aaron Fox at the one, Jalen at the two, Dillon at the three, Twinn at the four, Shaglin at the five. You still got Reed Shepard and Ken Whitmore off the bench. Y'all fucking with that.

Y'all fucking with it. Yeah, I'm fucking with it. You got one of the best clubs in the NBA with a team full of young talent. Now, that money going to get fucked up at some point. Somebody going to have to move on in two years because you're going to have to give Thompson the max deal. But can De'Aaron and Jalen figure it out together? That's definitely like Donovan and Darius Garland. Well, I think it'll work because I'm not saying they're the same player by any means, but how they kind of play.

Jalen Green plays like Malik Monk now the personalities got to mesh but I see that work beautifully they do kind of play similar

that's a great comparison so that would be Demar seamless and you got young killers on the wing with you but I think Fred Van Fleet

like veteran leadership he kind of calmed them down means a lot even like when they like wild you know they start doing some wild shit, he always

like the calm, calming voice. And the way he play is super calm. I'm not saying that De'Aaron Fox can't play like that, but I don't know if he's at that point in his career where he's ready to be the calming voice. He's still trying to get 30 again. So maybe it won't fit.

But for San Antonio, they need him to do that. They need his skill set to be aggressive, get buckets, So maybe it won't fit. But for San Antonio, they need him to do that. Yes. Yeah, they need him. They need his skill set to be aggressive, get buckets, to take a lot of pressure off of Wimby. Yeah. Man, listen, just imagine De'Aaron Fox and Wimby picking a row.

Or like him running the break with Castle. That could be dangerous, bro. Like you said, though, getting free agents to go to San Antonio. Oh, no. If they get De'Aaron Fox, Castle will not be there. Are you thinking it's going to to San Antonio. Oh, no. If they get De'Aaron Fox, Castle will not be there. Oh, you think they're going to have to? No. You have to. They can't say De'Aaron. De'Aaron Vessel can't go in that train. What? You think anybody? He's gone.

Well, they're the Kings. I don't know. Man, he's gone. Is Vladi still there? Nah. They only even got a point. If Vladi was there, he would have been gone for two second round picks. Who they point guard? I'm saying Michael Lovett. When they give up De'Aaron Fox, they got to get a guard. Listen, we don't even know what the Kings are doing.

Are they in full rebuild? If they get rid of him, what are they doing? Are they going to blow the whole team up? I don't know. Sabonis can get you draft capital. Debo gets you draft capital. I don't know if he's eligible to get traded or not. But if he's gone, you got to go through a full rebuild, bro. I mean, I don't

know. Yeah, so can he get Murray up out of there too? They got DeMar DeRoz rebuild, bro. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, so they can't get Murray up out of there, too. They got DeMar DeRozan, Lil Romeo pitcher up there. Damn, they do. Oh, my God, that is his high school pitcher. That's crazy, man. Yeah, that was great news, though. We shall see what happens.

But I believe we'll just ask how y'all feel. Y'all think he gone by trade deadline? I don't know, bro. No, you don't know? I don't think so. You don't think so? I think so. I don't think that this ain't no other stuff, man.

Rich Paul and them too calculated for this to happen. For him to say that, yeah, it's something in place, man. But to see some potential teams, the Nets, I don't know why. But the Heat, we didn't speak about that. I like that connection. How you feel about that at B-Hill? Amy, your favorite white boy in the same backcourt, potentially. They training.

And that deal? They got to. You know, you're getting something back. No, I think it would be a three-team deal. Who do you think? You got to move Jimmy out of there. I say a three-team deal. Sacramento. Sacramento take Jimmy.

No, it's a three-team deal, hypothetically. So somebody else would be in there. Who is going to Sacramento? Not Jimmy. Who is Sacramento? Y'all know this

trade shit better than me, but Tyler Hero ass is out of there. Yeah, hey, you're not keeping De'Aaron Fox, Bam, and Tyler Hero unless you about to give up

picks at draft capital. Yeah, and I don't even know any young players on the heat that anybody would want. Like, nobody's taking Duncan Robinson. Even though he got

an expiring contract, I think, coming up. Terry Roger can go. T-Row. They can give up T-Row and shit. They might have to give up Khalil Ware.

There's nothing on that. Kevin Love being messy, so he can go. Shout out to K-Love. K-Love got the best IG smoking right now. Khalil, we're like the most... Unless you want to give him to Koli. Josh Richardson, you are.

Sacramento Kings. That's my guy. Yeah, he can go too. Yeah. I mean, people love him. Nikola Jovic, Hamiakis. He got some young players people like, though. But they could have a nasty starting five. You could have De'Aaron Fox. You can have Tyler Hero.

Damn, Josh Kirscher got to get out of Miami. Damian at the three. Bam at the four. Khalil at the five. That's a whip. I don't know. Just hop up there.

Good luck, De'Aaron. The Spurs would be cold though. Yeah, I like him with the Spurs. Him and Wimpy would be unstoppable. Yeah, that'd be a nice duel. For sure, man.

Hey, shout out to Isaiah Thomas, man. We're praising the G-Loop debut. We was talking shit. Morty Bob. Was we? We was talking that shit. I think we was committed. The only thing I pushed back is when y'all said he was the best point guard in the league at that time.

We spoke high on that nigga. For sure. I said he was going to have to get 40. You know what I mean? I knew he was going to do that. He didn't do it the last three times. And for him to have an even 40 yesterday, boy, it was watching. I'm fucking with you, bro.

And it's this, though. That's the fire part. I knew he was going to do that. And he just love to hoop, bro. Yeah, it's too previous. Since he did that. His first game, he dropped 40. Last year, he dropped 40.

Like, I knew that was coming. Like, he not even preparing for this. That's just so hard to do, bro dropped 40. Like, I knew that was coming. Like, he not, he been preparing for this. That's just so hard to do, bro. It's not, though. He averaged 29 points a game. No, I'm just saying for him to still be hooping at that level, bro. Cause I'm telling y'all he was one of them. Battling all

them injuries and shit, bro, and you can still go get 40 against some pros, bro. Yeah, that's hard. That's fucking crazy. And that speaks, like you said, bro, like, despite the injuries, he was averaging 30 in the league. This is like... He was really, bro,

he was really, really good, bro. That's how great you are to go through those type of injuries and still just pull up to a G1 day and be like, I got 40 piece in me and dip out as far as... And you 35

and you 5'9". That's what I'm saying. Is he one of, like, is he a top five under six foot guard ever? He's the best under six foot guard ever. Easy. the best under six foot guard ever. Easy.

Yeah, I was going to say. I'm rolling with that. That ain't even close. Nobody. Fuck, spud, web up. Man, what? Speedy Claxton is getting hooked. Unless Tiny Archibald is shorter than six foot.

No, no. That's how it was Tiny. Oh, no. I know Isaiah Thomas is in'm like 6'2". So what do we got? Earl Boykins? Not close. Muggsy Bogues? Muggsy Bogues is raw. When you Google somebody's name and they pull up their work season,

it's crazy. They got to stop that. I'm still something on Isaiah Thomas, cooking him too, respectfully. Hold on now. I know he's a legend. That's tough, bro. I know he's a legend. No time to legend. No time to legend. Ball led the league in a scoring and an assist win. Yeah, that's tough, bro. Obviously. Yeah, I see how that Thomas

in 30 in the league with John Wall, Kyrie Irving, Steph. Nah, bro. Averaging, leading the league in scoring. David Stoudemire? Yeah, I'm going to take IT

over David Stoudemire. I'm just looking at him. Damn, my boy Ty Lawson, man. Fuck. I won. I'm going to take IT. Yeah. IT the best.

For sure. Shout out to IT, man. 40. Taiwan. I'm going to tell you, IT. IT the best. Shout out to IT, man. 40 ball to debut. Last but not least, though, Jimmy. Prices get lower and lower, man. T-Move. I don't know. What's lower, though? What was I asking for

before? That's what we really need to know. Was it two first-round picks? I just know this fool is going to go somewhere and kill. Oh, you know he's going to kill. He's about to go somewhere. I heard Philly back in the running. Yeah. Philly trying to get him for Paul George.

For sure. Where do you think he goes, though? Do you think he makes it to Phoenix? Do you think he goes back to Philly? I would rather him go to play with KD. I would love to see him go to Phoenix and hoop. And that team, like you said, it'd be really good to rest the team. I want to see him go to Philly.

Philly would be funny. Because it's going to be so funny. Joel Embiid going to come back because he actually like Jimmy. And then it's like, he going to start hooping. Tyrese Maxey going to be hooping. It'll be scary out east if they get together. Yeah.

Justin just sat yesterday enjoying a beat. He played 400 games and set out 400. Missed more games he's played. He got two maxes. That's fire.

Justin's going to be in a MVP. I ain't trying to get off subject. I'm doing or taking Damon Stoudemire over Isaiah Thomas. Mighty Mouse.

Crazy as hell. That's a Damon Stoudemire. Yeah, Isaiah Thomas. I down there taking Damon Stoudemire over Isaiah Thomas. Mighty Mouse. Crazy as hell. That's a Damon Stoudemire. Yeah, Isaiah Thomas. I mean, did Damon Stoudemire ever make an All-Star team? Oh, he was raw, though. We just like him. We just...

I ain't hating on Damon Stoudemire. He was cold, but... Shout to Coach Stoudemire. We just liked him from growing up. His first year in the league, he was raw.

I ain't gonna lie with you. I am gonna have to take IT over Damon. But it's Wyatt, bro. 13. Yeah, he is. If y'all tell me Nate Archibald can't say IT, I'm not going to. I'm talking shit. Shout out to IT, man. Keep killing these niggas, bro.

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But what Tyrese Maxey did to Bronny yesterday was very disrespectful. And I know he didn't score all the points on him, but the highlights is going to show you all the ones he scored on him, so we're going to talk about it anyway. Yeah, that's a hard guard, though. Yeah, he came in to do a turnover and then got his mans punched. Yeah, it was. He the reason why AD got hurt.

Yeah, I said, damn, Bronny, you've been playing good, too. Bronny was getting shamed, got it all night. The first thing they said was, see, that G League shit don't matter. He was just killing it. Now look at this shit.

Like, come on, y'all. He was playing well in the G. Yeah, bro. It's an adjustment, bro. When you go from having a chance to have the ball and being yourself, and then you got to go

and I play with my dad. And I got to, like, throw post-entry passes. I ain't threw a post-entry pass in three weeks. That's a fact. Yeah, it's about to be a turnover. I ain't been hitting the elbow. They've been getting the ball screen.

What's so funny about this game? Because, you know, Laker fans are like, all right, let's not overlook this game. Like this is supposed to be a gimme game for them. The Sixers haven't been performing well. Ronnie get rotation minutes earlier. They thinking they about to have an easy win. Nope. Tyrese Maxey kicked they ass yesterday.

I mean, Mad Max, bro. He cold. Tyrese Maxey looked at that like, hey, stop fucking playing with me. Nah, for real. Put that nigga in versus the goddamn Jazz. Stop playing with the church's money, putting this nigga on me. Fuck wrong with you, JJ. I ought to throw this ball at your motherfucking head, nigga. Putting this nigga on me. Fuck wrong with you, JJ. I ought to throw this ball at your motherfucking head, nigga.

Putting this nigga on me. Y'all know Bronny my young nigga, but that's out of pocket. Three turnovers in 15 minutes, JJ, you out of pocket. Yeah. Bronny wasn't ready for that. Not Tyrese Maxey, one of the elite guards. Yeah, bro. I'm not saying Bronny can't guard, but that's some fire to be thrown on.

Yeah, bro. and I feel like you know, that's like a nigga guarding you that you know, not to say you don't feel like he's supposed to be in the league, but you like, all right, now y'all playing too much. But anytime a rookie got on, like, you've been in the league four or five years, you get a rookie, it's like, ah, he crisp. It don't matter who

it is. They always trying to give you a welcome to the league moment. Yeah, he got welcome. Yeah. So shout out to Bronny, bro. Getting a minute for sure, though. You just had Tyrese fucked up. You, your daddy and J.J. You, your daddy. Who made the call yesterday? All three.

Who you think? Bron, I think you're ready. We averaging 20 in the G League. What we doing? We ready. We're playing 15 minutes is a lot for Brownie. First half minute. What was his stats? Zero for five, zero for three.

One thing I have for why I fuck with Brownie too, he is going to shoot that motherfucking ball. On me, get them FGAs up. That's one thing I do appreciate about him though. Yeah, bro. You in the game for a reason, bro. That's crazy that he's shooting the league. That nigga would not shoot in college.

Or high school. Yeah. Well, he don he's shooting the league. That nigga would not shoot in college. Or high school. Yeah. That's crazy. Well, he don't have a choice now. You have to shoot the ball now. They can't just put you in the game for defense. Yes, they can, bro. Because they put him in for Tyrus Maxey. What'd he do? That's a hard guard, though, bro. So you better shoot the ball.

What can Reddish be doing? I love Cam, man. It was cool as hell when we played in there, but damn, bro. I don't know, man. Cam and Josh Christopher, man, are two of my biggest, I ain't going to say letdowns, but I'm like, what ifs?

Like, yeah, like what the fuck happened? Yeah, Cam Reddish was supposed to be called. You know who was mine? It was Cam Reddish. Cam Reddish is definitely one of mine.

He was supposed to be called. Josh Christopher, I knew that wasn't going to really be what it was supposed to be. You had no faith in that? Nah, I seen it. Like, he was, nah. This is red.

You know who else I feel like that about? Justice Winslow. I thought Justice Winslow was going to be cold. He had quality years. Early. Early, but coming out of college, niggas thought Justice Winslow was the next one. Like, he thought he was going to be the next elite wing. I didn't.

Are you asleep? No, I didn't like his game at Duke. I understand. Cam Reddish had hype Like Adam Morrison Cam Reddish was like Out of high school Was like We thought he was

Going to be a T-Mac Swear to God They played just a lot Nah for real But Josh Christopher I knew I wasn't sold on that Damn

Yeah I used to be like Just because you shoot A whole bunch of shots On me You're going to be cold And I'm starting to look at I like AJ But if you really watch them play,

never mind. I said that for a different conversation. Yeah, but you really watch his games, I watch his games, like playing Mount Vernon and shit. Yeah. I'm like,

nah, I don't fucking want to. Nah, it's going to be a rough, it's going to be rough at BYU. Okay. It's going to be rough. So,

man, give us a little bit of a message, man, AD, hopefully he's not out for a certain period of time. We will see the updates because, you know, if he is, that means they will not be winning games.

Dane went back home yesterday and took a L to the Blazers yesterday. 125-112. Well, they got the dub yesterday. I watched this game. And we need to, hey, we got to ease up on Portland. They actually fun to watch. Okay, we need to show some respect to Portland. Yeah, I swear, bro.

Them young boys be hooping. They play fast. They picking up full court. I actually want Cooper Flagg to go to here, bro. You want to say Cooper to Chauncey? Yeah. Chauncey. You know what's crazy?

They'll fire Chauncey if they get Cooper. Damn. They'll be on that. Nah, because Chauncey got something going with them young boys. DJ and his firing shit is crazy. I'm not being funny. How many times does that happened, bro? They don't give black coaches some type of situation, bro.

DJ is worse than Amazon after peak season, boy. Nah, that's true, though. They might fire him. That's what they be on, bro. I hate it. I would love for him to get a chance to play for somebody like Chauncey Billings, bro. But you know how they go. When new organizations reset, oh, we got a new savior coming in.

All right, I need a new coach. New home, new resilience. Yeah, speaking about Dane, you laughed at my 2K build. I'm on your ass when I see you, Dasty. Somebody send me that. I'm on your ass when I see you. What's the boy's name that was at the Wizards? Aviya.

What's his name? He was a wing. He was playing for the Wizards. He had 30 last night. I don't know how to say his name. You know, we butchered him. Oh, but DJ, yeah, he was hooping his shirt. He had 30 or not. His name't know how to say his name. You know, we butcher him. Avedija, yeah. He was hooping his shirt. He had 30 or not. His name is what? His last name.

His iComic calling, whatever. Avedija. He has no Avedija. It's A-B A-B-I-J-A Y'all got some names on y'all motherfuckers. And A. Boy, I got some names on that.

They be bad at us, too. Y'all don't know nobody's name, girl. This is not his kid. We don't know nobody's name. No. But we watch him, though. Yeah, like it. He was cooking last night.

He had 30s. He was cooking. He go to the basket strong. He made some 30s, too, but he was getting to that realm, man. And I like the every Simon's name back and forth a little bit, too. Mentor versus Men's Team. That was fire. Yeah, and he showed them a lot of love after the game,

telling them he basically built the, that was fire. And he showed Dame a lot of love after the game, telling him, you know, he basically built the player that he is. Yeah. But I'm watching that Sharp off the bench. He coming in. He can shoot that ball,

get to the rim. Athletic. DeAndre Ayton was playing well. 21 and 14. Yeah. And then they got the big white boy from UConn come in. Yeah, Dalvin Clemen.

Yeah, they got a solid squad, man. They play up-tempo fast. I'm actually rolling and putting him at the fourth spot because Jeremy Green got hurt. I think he rolled his ankle at the beginning of the game. And they end up putting, what's his dude name? Kamara on. Nigga, I'm making this up.

I know his start with a C. He was a nigga I didn't know. He got braids, light skin, fella. But he was locking up, bro. He was really... I ain't saying he was locking down, but he was making motherfuckers frustrated out there. I seen Giannis throw an elbow at him.

And I'm like... Giannis be doing some... Giannis hit him with an elbow at the end of the game. At the end of the quarter. Acted like he was shooting a jumper. A full court shot. You ain't about to be doing some wild shit. Y'all used to hit him with an elbow at the end of the game, at the end of the quarter, act like he was shooting a jumper. A full court shot. Like, you ain't about to shoot that. Y'all just hit him with the ball.

I seen it. But if you trade him out for Cooper Flagg, man, they going to be solid, bro. Hey, what's crazy is I just had 39 and 12 yesterday. There you go. 33. What's his name? Oh, yeah. He got a name on him.

Yeah, Kamara. Yeah, that's him. I was his name? Oh, yeah. He got a name on him. Yeah, Kamara. Yeah, that's him. I was watching you last night, young fella. He was locking up. He played well. Please scroll down a little bit, because look how they missed a Rob Williams name. Oh, I guess I was a blogger. I said, ask crazy.

Yeah. Rob didn't get in last night. He got to be on that trade blog. Oh, yeah. They definitely. Mm-hmm. All right. But I like what I seen

last night from Portland. All right, we got a question from the chat that said, what's the difficulty in playing with Giannis? Bucks fans are complaining because we are better when he is a passer.

What my man got to do with that? Yeah. I was just... Yeah, he was scratching the outside of my head. I was just fucking around. What's the difficulty? Like,

he's such a dominant force, but he's super ball dominant. So usually, when you're a power forward or a wing, you usually are getting set up with buckets. Like, right?

You know, the point guard will set the table for you. You run the lane, point guard dish it to you. You do pick and rolls, point guard hits you on the pocket pass.

Well, with Giannis, it's kind of different. He has the ball majority of the time. So you got to play off him. So Dame, obviously Dame can play any kind of way. He can be a catch-and-shoot player. He can play off pick and rolls.

But with Giannis, you become a catch-and-shoot player, and it's kind of difficult to play like that if you're used to having a ball in your hand. So once he becomes a passer and you're getting guys open shots and he's looking like that, the game's a little easier if you got a bunch of shooting. But that's why guys like Brent Forbes and all those guys had career years when they was with Giannis because they just catch and shoot players. But dominant ball guards,

like, I'm not dominant, but I wanted the ball in my hand. I wouldn't play well with Giannis. Drew Holiday had to learn how to be a slasher damn near. And I picked like playing the dunker playing with Giannis because he couldn't get the ball. And it took Dane to adjust, you know.

He had to adjust the way he played. Obviously, we're not seeing the same Dane we've seen in Portland getting 60 points and shit. Like, we ain't going to see that from Dane right now because he plays with another dominant player. But you got to adjust your game playing with Giannis. For sure. And then, like we said, game before last, they both had 35.

So, obviously, when it works, it works. I mean, they just had a bad night for sure. Yeah, I mean, Dame's so good that you, he going to play without Giannis in the game and he going to go off

for a quick 15, 16. You know what I mean? But when Giannis in the game, he's such a dominant force that, like, why wouldn't you give him the ball? Yeah, it's proven

to be successful, for sure. Shout out to the Blazers, man. Almost three wins away from their last season total with Chauncey, man. We had him on Goodwill soon a lot, but show some love, man. If they get Cooper Flag, man, it might be up in Portland. Keep Chauncey, man.

Keep Chauncey. If they get rid of Jeremy Grant and put Cooper Flag right there, they got a nice little young quarterback. Them having a white frontcourt is going to be crazy. Jeremy Grant would be good somewhere else. Yeah, free him for sure. He'd be solid somewhere else for sure. Him and Dominic Lehman being a white frontcourt is crazy. Nah, DeAndre isn't going to be crazy. Jeremy Grant would be good somewhere else. Yeah, free him for sure. He'd be solid somewhere else. Him and Dominic Lehman

being a white frontcourt is crazy. Nah, DeAndre isn't going to be there. You don't think he going nowhere? Nah. All right. Who he play yesterday? He keep doing that?

He all right for sure. Ain't nothing bad about it. I'm just happy he ain't a passer. Rockets to carry the Hawks yesterday, 100-96. Devin Gray had 25 yesterday. Trey Young had 21-9.

I don't care nothing about those stats. Please tell me, do you see Billy Booker grab the yesterday. Trey Young had 21-9. I don't care nothing about those stats. Please tell me, do you see Billy Brooker grabbing the back of Trey Young's neck like that?

Why he was on there with my young fella, bro? That was weird as hell. Like, I swear, I would've crashed out. It looked like that video of Nas when he performed and the dude wiping

the back of his neck. I would've crashed out. That's what that was. I would've crashed out, bro. We got a picture of that or a video of that? Yeah, I got you right here. You post a crash out right here.

Man. Nigga in my life. Why he cuffed the back of his neck like that? Yeah, he supposed to do that to the ladies, bro. Bro, I swear to God. You supposed to crash out. Yeah, that's out of pocket. Dillon the wild boy.

Like, what is that? He got a... Wait. He got a... Arm band? He on bullshit. I don't know why he do that. I hope that's a bandage.

But why did you grab the back of his neck like that? Like, he like, ooh, I want to hurt you. Yeah. I'm shitty. Yeah. He got to crash out, Trey.

Oh, that's right. As a matter of fact, I need to talk about that with Atlanta. I love y. Yeah. You got to crash out, Trey. Oh, that's right. As a matter of fact, I need to talk about that with Atlanta. I love y'all. Y'all know how I feel about the Hawks. But we got to get a goon. I ain't no, no. Where is Jamie Johnson? That means Isaiah Stewart.

Yes. Yeah. Ain't nobody supposed to be able to trust Trey Young, bro. You can't trust a franchise. Somebody got to take Trey Young, bro. I got to trade for Isaiah Stewart. And I looked at our roster. Can you go down?

Can you go to the Hawks roster? Where was Clint at? Capella, he posted it. Probably back in Nigeria. He ain't from Nigeria. Come on, Clint. He down there from Switzerland or some shit like that. That's why.

He's neutral, bro. Looking at our squad, we... We don't got, we don't got, we don't got no crash outs. Dyson, he's not going to crash out. That nigga,

Muhammad Gee. He's on visa. He chilling. Might be one of the little outings for people. Larry Nance died last night. Yeah, we don't got.

That nigga, Daquan Plowden. Daquan, yeah, you got it. You got it. I don't know. He might be on there.

Damn, my boy Cody Zeller still in the league, baby. Keep running that bag up, my boy. Still in the bag. Nah, ain't nobody. We don't got no crash, y'all. We need a... We need something.

We need an enforcer, bro. Ain't no way in hell. Where Big O was at? Yeah, y'all need Isaiah Stewart. Y'all need our boy, the big dude. He used to play for OKC. Big O, I ain't seen... Big O supposed to run on the court.

I ain't... You know what I mean? It's all good, though. Nah, they need to go back and get your old teammate. Y ain't seen Big O supposed to run on the court. You know what I mean? It's all good, though. Nah, they need to go back and get your old teammate. I got a nigga named Keaton on that team. Go get Ivan Johnson. Sign him to a 10-day.

Keaton Wallace definitely look like Amigo. That's Carson Wallace, brothers. Oh, for real? I can see it. Damn. Oh, that's hard.

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I was about to say. That's crazy. He having a hell of a year, too. I don't give a damn. He better not make it over Lomelo. Well, that was going to be the east and west situation.

From the west, he got to beat out James Harden. He better not make it, bro. Dang, that's tough. Yeah, he ain't going to make it this year. He having a great year, though. He a killer, too, but I'm sweet.

For sure. Warrior's game at the end of the show. Definitely worthy, for sure. Warriors got a dub yesterday. 114-103. They beat the Jazz, you know, Steph, the end of the show. Definitely worthy for sure. Warriors got a dub yesterday. 114-103. They beat the Jazz in those steps, but they are the Jazz. They ain't trying to win games right now. I know they are in the Jimmy Butler sweet state,

so we should see how much that price is. I'm very interested to see if that can even happen and whether they would give up. Do you want to see Jimmy with them? I don't know. Because I feel like if they get them, he got to give up Wig.

So, if they can keep them together, I wouldn't mind it. I'll get rid of Wig. They probably won't come me and Ben and some other people. I'll give up Wig for sure.

If you give up Wig, I mean, you know Jimmy might not stay. A high level Jimmy Butler? Yeah. I'm swapping him out. There's still more to have to do

for this roster to do something though. Like I don't think that shit's going to fix it unfortunately. Jimmy ain't going to fix shit over there. Him and Draymond

will be hilarious though. For shits and giggles I want to see it happen. But send him to Phoenix. It'll be a good team bro. They got to make another move. I mean of course

they got competent champions and people who play at the high level, but I don't think that move is needed, especially in the West this year. There's going to be kills up top for them. Yeah.

I don't know, man. We'll see. But the Jazz, they got a lot of trade pieces. You think they're going to get rid of anybody or they're just chilling? Lowry Market and everybody

want him. Walker Kessler, too, and they're not lowering the price. Yeah. They want premium. I wonder why they want to get rid of Walker Kessler, though they not lowering the price yeah they want premium I wonder why they want to get rid of Walker Kessler though yeah for what

he like a young big like yeah what are they building like I don't understand like yeah I don't know

what are they like 23 he look like a nigga from Step Brothers the other brother Will Ferrell and what's the other dude name from uh talladega nights the one that had the drum set what Walker Kessler deal What How old is Walker Kessler though I don't know Probably 40

He was a LNB Got the same birth certificate Ain't no way that nigga Under 30 He 23 Hell no You know what I'm saying That's why I don't understand

What the Jazz is doing Why they want to get rid of A 23 year old center That looks promising They don't want anybody On that team Every time they get somebody Like come trade for them

He's decent too though, but I'm like, he's real solid. He's a starting center in the NBA. I'm like, where do you start building at? When they get Cooper. That's what they are. But I'm saying you got to have something around him, like... Yeah. Like, damn. You got Colin Sexton,

bro. Nah, that's who got him. They tried to drag him, too. Like, I don't understand. They said everything's for sale. So like you said, who's going to be here? Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out. Yeah,

Patty Mills, they out here just bullshitting around. Yeah. Kyle Flipowski. Oh yeah, leave the family for it. That's what they keeping. They said,

we don't need Walker Castle. We got him. He too locked in. Yeah, fuck the jazz. Yeah, don't watch the jazz said we don't need Walker Castle. We got him. He too locked in. Yeah, fuck the Jazz. Yeah, don't watch the Jazz. I don't know what to say about that, but a lot of games tonight. See how y'all feel about them. Nets at Hornets. To be game

of the day. Hornets by 20. Hornets by 20? I ain't watching it again. I'm going to go Hornets as well for shits and giggles. Pistons at Pacers. Pistons. I'm going to take, damn, they coming off

a trip from Paris, right? Yep. I'm going to take the Pistons. That's cool. Pacers, Monday line,

tap in. I'm just saying because y'all coming off a long flight. Respect. Educated, bro. I don't know how that be. Yeah,

it's going to be a little rust. Yeah, we got smoke with them too, so it's going to be a good game. Rappers at Wizards. Go take a nap. Y'all doing it too. If you're gambling on this game,

call the hotline. You are degenerate. I don't know. I promise y'all when I talk about this tomorrow, I will not know one stat. No, I did not watch this game so y'all can talk all the shit y'all want. Go crazy. Bulls at Celt want. We'll go crazy. At Celtics. Cavs at Heat.

I got the Heat. I'm going to go Cavs. Nuggets at Knicks. I'm going to go Nuggets. Kings at 76ers. Sixers, they playing on high. Every away team.

I wonder if De'Aaron Fox is going to play tonight. I'll go Kings as well. Mavs at Pelicans. Mavs, bro. Most definitely. I'm taking the Pails. Free easy. Clippers at Spurs.

Clips. I'm going Spurs. They beat our ass last week. They better keep playing like that. I'm going with the Spurs I'm going Spurs They beat our ass last week They better keep playing like that I'm going with the Spurs too T-Wolves at Suns That easy? I'm going to go T-Wolves Thunder at Warriors

No question at all Verify buckets be here Who was getting two yesterday? Yeah I'm going to have to give this to my boy. Kenny Ketchins, man. Yeah. Yeah. BYU.

Perfect game. Perfect game against Baylor yesterday. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the young dog. For sure. He was hooping, man. Yeah. My verified bucket goes to Louisville Cardinals,

two games in a row. I think we played Wake Forest last night. Something like that. Keep goingoping, man. My very five buckets goes to Louisville Cardinals two games in a row. I think we played Wake Forest last night. Something like that. Keep going crazy, kids. Packed up and going crazy. Yeah. I approve of Pat Kelsey.

I ain't mad. We locked in. Yeah, Wake Forest, they don't send me shit. Damn. Out the gate. Pat Kelsey talking to me. Tap in, Pat.

I'm doing recruiting for Pat Kelsey. Oh, yeah. Turn me up. Yeah I'm doing recruiting for Pat Kelsey. Turn me up. That is true. We can't beat NIL for the little required on tap in. Wait for it. Don't talk to me. So it's all good. Send that nigga honorary diploma.

Please. My verified bucket, bro. I'm going to go with Avida. I don't know how to say his name. Y'all correct me. But my boy, I watched you last night. Boy, you used to play for the Wizards.

I know who he is. God damn, you from Israel. Double A, man. That's where we go. But I seen him hooping. You know, he was killing it. He had 30 and 9. Tyrese Maxey had 40.

Come on, man. 40 ball. That's crazy. Also, I got to show some love to Giannis, man. 39 is tough, man. 40 ball. That's crazy. Also, I gotta show some love to Giannis, man. 39 is tough, man. Even though he took an L.

I know that's normalized, but still. Giannis would really be hooping. Yeah, his stat line this year is ridiculous. Which is crazy because he would be MVP if he didn't already have MVP.

That vote for Teeq should be crazy. If they gave it to him, I don't think nobody would be mad. I mean, he's not playing better than the state. No, if he got it, it would be criminal as shit. But I'm saying the stat lines is like –

Oh, the stats. It's all right for them. It's for sure, man. Last but not least, man, Kyle Sexton had 30 yesterday. Who cares? In case y'all love through the jack. Who cares? Man, shout out to Kyle, man.

Somebody got to score. That team got to get well soon, man. I hope they get Cooper Flagg because if not we just lost the franchise for no reason I pray they don't get Cooper Flagg speaking about Colin Sexton it's uh where he didn't go

to Alabama yeah he had one of the greatest performances of everything is Avery Johnson still coaching out there hell nah man I got Freaky A

out of there Avery Johnson doing YouTube like us is he come on man we got to bring Freaky A on the show. Why you calling

him Freaky? That's allegations. There ain't no damn allegations on him. The real AJ. You see that polo right there? Deaf allegations. If I pop a Google with that polo, I definitely was on some bullshit. That nigga got no allegations, man.

That nigga do YouTube like us, man. Oh, for real? I got you. Yeah, right. Yeah, but Seanie been out. That's live, bro. I ain't live. That nigga don't do no YouTube, man.

He ain't do, bro. Told you, Donnie. Look, that ain't even him. That ain't even him, bro. That nigga do YouTube. That's a nigga playing football, man. That's his grandson. He be telling stories.

Like, he told one about how he got drafted. Damn, what year? Shit. That'll be 84. Pre-segregation. Talk about how he got cut after going to David Robinson wedding and shit. Oh, yeah, he talked about how his wife, when his wife paid all the stuff so he got to the league.

Yeah, and then he's- Queen. She held him down until he got to the league. And then he's Queen. She held him down so he got to the league. And then he got waived after David Robinson wedding. Went to his wedding got waived or some shit.

You got to keep her. She funds your life until you get to the league. You got to you got to keep her. Damn that's all the white girls in college. All right man.

You will you will. Moving on. This nigga boy. I'm just speaking the truth. Y'all see them Alabama pictures. Moving on. This nigga boy. I'm just speaking the truth. Y'all see them Alabama pictures? Come on, bro. Shout out to the New York Knicks.

Y'all act like y'all never see them pictures. I ain't seen them. No, we see the pictures. I ain't seen them. All right. So, they ain't near him. Hey, Dr. Umbar talked about it. He said, the reason why they there.

He said, y'all see the petition. I just know about the black woman taking care of niggas in all. Dr. Umbar talked about it. He said, the reason why they're there is y'all see the potential. I just know about the black women taking care of niggas in college. Queens. I love my black women. I've never seen. Howard. Hampton. Alabama A&M.

They be there to get their education. They taking care of no niggas. They be there. Grambling. They not taking care of niggas. That's a mess for Club 520. I respect them, but they're not taking... Listen, I got black.

My sister, no. If they was, I'd be like, nigga, you look dumb. Why are you spawning this nigga? It's like that nigga is not making it to the league. But Avery Johnson made it. He was about to. You got a story.

He was a right hand away that nigga that nigga that nigga like what's her name sister remember

oh that no anytime Mike tells her right after the morning why you take he ain't going

to the league look what happened move on DJ I'm trying yeah I'm just saying if my daughter fun is a nigga child my daughter Funded a nigga

My daughter better not be funding Nobody in the jury I swear to God Oh man if you're using the money I'm sending you to help this nigga get a mixtape We're gonna delete Buy his podcast Microphone

I'm like, this sad? DJ. I try. Especially because I think he went to, like, Grambling or something. Where he went? He probably went to a prestigious black college. He went to an HBCU. Yeah.

No shade to the HBCUs, but not a lot of people go to the league out of there. Your daughter funded Shannon Sharp. He went to a... I mean, not a lot of people go to the league out of there your daughter funded Shannon Sharp he went to I mean not a lot of people go to the league out of there so I'll be a little like

damn who we doing you really believe eventually get with Lil Derrick from Post Raw then you be shit nah

cause nigga Lil Derrick he had six grand keys no what I'm saying is they the college man like my, they the college man. Like, my daughter dated a college man. Man, let's talk about it later.

I wouldn't care. I'm just saying, funding that shit? Like, why are we taking care of him? They get NIL. And they get NIL now. Nah, every damn show

we get NIL. More food stamps. No, but shout out to her, man. For sure. Queen. She love it. Give her a soul, be here. Who needs a encouragement her, man. For sure. Queen. She love me. Get well soon, be here. Who needs

some encouragement tonight, man? Jeff T. Y'all need encouragement, but y'all see the Alabama pictures. Y'all just see a nigga propose to a girl for the risk. They been killing Saquon Walkley, too. Man, drop the video, man. Larry Nance getting dropped by JG, man.

These niggas crazy. Niggas get bad. There we go. Yeah, I'm mad at Saquon, but she's been holding him down. Sorry. Wow. Oh, my God. Good move, Jalen.

Yeah, Larry Dott. That's nice. Yes, sir. I wish he would have dunked it. They put the Donnie McClurkin sample on there. That's nasty. Wow. In and out.

What is that? Definitely. He hopped up so fast. I would have found this shit out. I grabbed his leg. I might give what's on the goes to Dyson Daniels. He was in the way, bro. This boy right here is so special.

I'm telling y'all, man. They looked at that nigga. That boy right there is special. Yeah, he different, bro. Excuse me. Hey. Shout out to OTE, man. I know y'all hype.

Man. Yeah, they are definitely the prodigies for sure. No, I'm just saying that's a good look for them. Hell yeah. I mean, no No shade OTE But they was gonna be Yeah but I'm saying You know when they

Yeah yeah yeah They feel like They came from us We built them We Nah that's they guys So Rob you know

They gotta claim the fame for sure Yeah But them niggas was gonna be Whoever they was gonna be So It's godly I know 80 got hurt But still get well soon, man.

Bronny set him up yesterday. Let me see. This ain't Bronny. That ain't Bronny. Yeah, Yokozuna. But this is what I'm talking about. See, Bronny been in the G. He ain't been making no entry.

Oh. Ah. Yeah, let's see, B. Don't reach and get out of there oh yeah you gotta foul you gotta do something foul hard bro you gotta

take a charge you in the G league you can be like Anthony Anderson now or then right today blackish Anthony Anderson. I would watch that movie with DMX. Why y'all just be hating, nigga? This is why we can't get up out on the show.

Y'all just be roasting, niggas. I like Anthony Anderson, bro. If there's somebody who's here, what's that movie with him? You know them niggas too, bro. And DMX, bro. I want niggas to stop getting so... Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I want niggas to stop getting so offended, bro.

They are offended. I got people still calling my about. I want niggas to stop getting so offended, bro. Well, they are offended. I got people still calling my phone. Dante, quit calling me, man. D'Vincenzo, quit calling me, bro. What'd I say about him? Nah, he just said in the old video, like, this 40 years fuck, I'm laughing at this for three hours. Shout out to Dante, because he get it, bro.

No, because he ain't going to say that shit out loud. Y'all know what he laughing at. I ain't saying it no more. Shout out to the twerking thang. I swear to God, bro. We just be joking, bro. It's all jokes, bro. We ain't coming at nobody nothing serious, bro. Y'all can

join on us. It's all love. They do, man. Have fun with it for sure, man. They start calling me Freaky T. I wouldn't even know shit. I just started singing the song. You was hype. No, I wasn't. I was hype because they hit the fucking lights. I don't know where them came from. We've been hitting this motherfucker for two years.

I ain't never seen them lights. That was different. We was all in it. It was a vibe. I'm glad everybody got me with my head down. I told you, I didn't even, I don't even know them girls was coming. Nigga, you picked them. Nah, I'm lying. That was production team.

I followed y'all. Don't do that. Alright. Hey, are we partying for Club 520 tonight? Yes, we are. Oh, okay. Well.

On that note, we're gonna send people some money today, man. Go ahead and crash out. That's the best one we did so far. On that note We're gonna ask people Some other name Crash out That's the best One we did so far I had fun today I must have worked out

I got all but Well this nigga Something else boy Now they told on me Like that Nah I was just playing But shit Nigga you do that

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20 RJ Barrett 20 Tyrese Halliburton 20 yeah Jokic 25 DeMar DeRozan

20 Steph Curry 20 Anthony Edwards is gonna get 30 on the Sun tonight playing tonight

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yeah I had a dream about the number so 267 gets you 12 bands today the crown is yours never hurts what was that one show called hey I was watching this is just random this is like some pie shit but y'all ever watch Thea

Thea Big Thea Thea got the first Lipo 360 fuck Man, alright. Fuck all that. But did you hear, you ever seen a dude cut on Thea, the son? Yeah. Shit. Yeah.

On everything. He got one of the weakest ones. Him and the Black Power Ranger. Him and the Black Power Ranger, bro. I swear to God, bro. Real talk. I've never seen Theo before. What?

I swear, I've never seen Theo, bro. Oh, DJ, you out of pocket. Tap in. Lil Bro cut was crazy. That's just a random. Damn, his shit was weak. I seen a nigga on Instagram posting the weakest hair cuts on sitcoms. And he was number one, bro.

And I was crying. Damn, I had one season? They got Thea Bonadere. Yeah. That's why I ain't see this shit. Night through the 94. Yeah, she went under the chamber after that. Shout out to Miss Thea, man.

Legend. Yeah, well, so am I. I think I seen her on Wayne's Brother episode. Brandy was on that motherfucker. That was a good show, DJ. It's crazy you missed that one. I definitely did. I got some in the block on that for sure.

Yeah. Well, hey, listen. We appreciate y'all that one. I definitely did. I got some in the block on that for sure. Yeah. Well, hey, listen, we appreciate y'all tuning in. I can't wait to record a pod and I'll be having a great time. We'll be back tomorrow morning. It's going to be fun. 520 in the morning. The Volume. This is an iHeart Podcast.