Club 520 Podcast - 520 In The Morning - Jeff Teague on Steph Curry & Warriors’ EPIC win vs. Klay Thompson & Mavericks

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

On the Wednesday, November 13 episode of 520 in the Morning, Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen react to Klay Thompson’s return to Golden State as the Mavericks faced off in the NBA Cup against Steph ...Curry and the Golden State Warriors. Steph turned back the clock in his EPIC performance against Luka Doncic as the Warriors came back and won 120-117. The guys also break down Joel Embiid’s return as the Philadelphia 76ers were dominated by Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks, as well as the best stories from around the rest of the NBA. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:01 Everything gonna be copacetic today. Some great basketball to discuss this morning. We gotta take it to the West Coast, man. Them late games be hard to get through from the East Coast, but last night this one was definitely worth it. Man, you got the Warriors against the Mavs. Klay coming back home. Warriors came back with the victory, 120-117.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Fellas, please tell me y'all watched that game last night. I did. Great game, bro. It was a great game. The love that Klay got coming into the arena was amazing. Hell yeah. I never seen anything like that even when they called his name, bro. Everybody got the sailor hats on and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:03:31 The captain hats, I mean, but it was crazy. That was a different kind of vibe in there. For sure. Would y'all rather him got booed yesterday or were you happy that he got the love that he received yesterday? He deserved all that love. For sure. He did too much for that franchise, bro. It was well-deserved.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Most definitely. Listen, Mello, let me get through the stats. Played this thing yesterday, probably his best game. Had 22, was going crazy. Kyrie, 22. Luka, 31.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But it did not matter because when Steph Curry decided to play basketball, shit got spooky. Light, 37 yesterday. It's cooling the last 12 of the game, the icing game, dog.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Like we was talking about yesterday, when Steph started playing basketball, everybody else forget what they're doing. Yeah, his energy was different to start the game. I seen when he fouled Klay. I think that was like, all right, we're going to let you get your first two points so you can get them out the way. He just fouled him on purpose. Got his two free throws, and then it was up after that.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Very disrespectful, man. No, I think... Steph, Steph a dog. You know, we was talking before the show. We might have to throw Nasty up there in the MVP talks, man. Oh, most definitely. Yeah, because he's willing to trash team, bro,
Starting point is 00:04:35 to these victories and this. Why they got to be trash, man? Bro, they weak. Bro, I love Draymond. Draymond, you still family, but y'all trash, bro. And he... He turning y'all up to like them 2015 Hawks, man. So y'all... Man, fuck out. He turned y'all up to like them 2015 Hawks, man.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So y'all to a hell of a start, man. You look like one of the ones still in the NBA at your big age, 36. We got to talk about Draymond, though, for real. Like, he's really going to be up there for defensive player of the year. Like, watching him play last night. I watched the Warriors play a little bit, but watching Draymond, he back to his old ways, man. He really taking over games on the defensive end,
Starting point is 00:05:07 like eliminating people. He did a hell of a job last night playing at the five. Straight up. For a lot of the game, he was at the five, playing small ball five. He's a different level of defender. Him and Steph got that chemistry that you can't deny, like coming off them pick and rolls and shit. They might be a tough out.
Starting point is 00:05:27 For real. Most definitely. And we always talk about this. If you got Steph Curry in the playoffs, you got to beat him four times. That's a tough feat to do. Yeah. And to show Draymond some love yesterday,
Starting point is 00:05:36 if you look at the stats, even if you're watching the game blindly, their bigs, lively, you know what I'm saying? Typically, they go crazy. Yeah. That wouldn't happen to yesterday. Like you said, rotate. They take that switch away. It got ugly. Yeah. They got to a good start, rotate. They take that switch away. It got ugly.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah. They got to a good start, man. Shout out to the Warriors. It's early. Like you said, we got to put Steph in the MVP conversation. Right, but you do, though. We got to at this point. You do.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Because nobody expected this team to be as good as they are right now. I mean, we call Steve Kerr. Caffer said it's one of the deepest teams he's had. But if you look at the stats, even the distribution down for the team, everybody's contributing, whether they get getting 20 minutes or 10 minutes. So you got to show some love to that. The Mavs, I mean, is it tough? Just because you lose this game.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But what do you think they need to do to adjust going forward? I just don't think it was their night. Yeah, it just... Okay. I think Steph was just on the mode that he wanted to make sure Clay... He was happy that Clay had a good game,
Starting point is 00:06:23 but he wanted to show... Like, you've seen it in his last shot when he hit that dagger three. Like you didn't want to be here. Yeah. Like he wanted to make sure y'all know this is still my shit. Like Clay,
Starting point is 00:06:32 all right, he gone, but I'm here. So we always good. Thanks. And it looked like that. Like they playing like that. Like,
Starting point is 00:06:39 all right, Clay might've been holding them back last year. Be honest. And you talked about addition to Buddy Hill this year. I mean, obviously he's not Clay, but what he's given to this team is the same contributions for the last two years.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Is that good night, go to sleep celebration the most disrespectful celebration of basketball right now? Probably. Probably. Because the moments that he does that be like crazy, bro. Like what he did in the Olympics was so disrespectful to do that shit, bro. I don't think it's disrespectful because people know what it is when it comes to him. It's still disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's amazing. It's not an average player doing that. I think we give Steph too much, like, leeway. Like, he talks shit. Like, he's talking shit, really. Like, all this shit, I told y'all, I had to yank his
Starting point is 00:07:23 little ass up one time. Hey, don't be doing that shit in front of me, nigga. We supposed to be cool. Nah, he was trying to show you, like, bro, have some swag about you, bro. That's it. Nah, bro, that's disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:07:33 That's why, now somebody see it when he do it. He hit Clay with it at the end. After he hit the dagger three, he didn't tell you, nigga, this my shit. Yeah, that's the real Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:07:42 He talk shit. You didn't want to be here. Yeah. I mean, I'll fool with it. Like, you know what I mean? To me, you need that's the real Steph Curry. He talk shit. You didn't want to be here. I mean, I'll fool with it. Like, you know what I mean? To me, you need that for the game. I'm glad because everybody treat him like he Donnie McClurkin, bro. Like, turn up on these niggas, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Why not? I mean, I love it. I think it's great for the game with Steph acting like that. But I'm glad people really get to see when he hit you with the go to sleep. I'm talking shit. Like, y'all can't fuck with me. Like, night night night. Is it just as bad as Luca?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Because Luca talk greasy. Luca talk crazy. But I think the difference is that Steph is doing this in situations and running rings or he's doing this in like demoralizing franchises. Now, Luca talk crazy to the sons. That's a different level. Like you said, that right where Devin Booker, that's a different type of disrespect because he talked greasy to the
Starting point is 00:08:23 walk them down, bro. That's all I'm saying who you rather talk shit to you Luke or Steph nah I'd rather Luke talk shit to me because he ain't won nothing he killed everybody oh well Steph wins so when you start talking back to him
Starting point is 00:08:37 he get to doing this and shit oh yeah throwing up the game that was mad at Clay for doing that Clay his ass he was, but I got four. Yeah. They up there. You can't say, yeah, you can't say nothing about that. How do they fare as the best backcourt ever?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Where would y'all put them? Best backcourt? Mm-hmm. Not the chapter ranking, but would you put them in the top five, top three? I don't know. What are we basing this off of? Because I know I just do strictly just killers, hoopers. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:06 You can go championships, hoop. I take all into account for me. They in the top five, I guess. I'll give you that. They in my top three. I dare say top two. I don't even know no back course, really, when I think about it. Shit.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Who was it? Me, Kyle Korver. Hmm. Did they beat the 2015 Hawks? Rank for Austin AO. Hey, that's a hell of a comparison. Hot sauce and headache. Who was on the Harlem Globetrotters?
Starting point is 00:09:35 First team all-in-one is crazy. Let me try to think, though. Who was a fire backcourt, though? I like Tim Hardaway and Mitch. Or a TMC? I'm going to take Clay and Step over them. Most definitely. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Bad court. I don't know, bro. Matter of fact, you know what? Usually the point guard be so dominant. Yeah, in the two-way. I mean, Step, Kirk. I mean, James Hardaway and CP would have been nice, but that didn't work out too well.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I mean, they were hoping when they was there, but they didn't win nothing. I don't think neither one of these people are necessarily stars, but underrated backcourt, even though he came off the bench with Ginobili and TP. Yeah. That was successful for a long time. Yeah, that's a good backcourt. Yeah, they won. In the comments, drop some of y'all favorite backcourts.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We'll talk about it at the end of the show for sure. But before we get off this words topic, Steve Kerr, a lot of flack for what he did at the Olympics, but they kill him right now. Does talk about it at the end of the show for sure. But before we get off this Warriors topic, Steve Kerr, a lot of flack for what he did at the Olympics, but they killing right now. Does he deserve to be in Coach of Year
Starting point is 00:10:28 conversations? Yeah. I mean, this group, he got this group playing at this kind of level. Nobody expected shit
Starting point is 00:10:33 from the Warriors. B. Hinn, caught him. They was to, where he was going? First team all Tulum. Oh, y'all was going to Tulum?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah. I didn't know where y'all was going. Puerto Rico, Tulum. We still on the way. Free party series. It's on tourulum. We still on the way. Freak Party Series. It's on tour, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's international. So to go from Tulum to being arguably top two in the West is like, he definitely going to be in Coach of the Year candidate. My God, Kenny Axe is holding it down for sure right now. Definitely got the one spot by it. They definitely won it too, for sure. Yeah. Most definitely, man.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Shout out to the Warriors doing their thing. Mavs, they'll do better. Yeah, shout out to the Warriors, man. Y'all know I'm going to hate on y'all. It's Draymond, my dog. But that really is impressive, though, to see how they've been winning because nobody really counted them in
Starting point is 00:11:15 to do well this year. No, they didn't. You know what I mean? So that's dope. Most definitely, Tom will tell. Last night, we had the return of NB, you know what I'm saying, the Knicks and the 76ers.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Knicks took the L yesterday, 111. Excuse me, 76ers took the L. My apologies, Nick. 119. I mean, 119. Got to score 100. Yeah, it's your rule. Golden rule.
Starting point is 00:11:34 The Knicks had some nice contributions yesterday. OG had 24. Cat another 20 and 10, basically. And Jalen Brunson only having 18. They still get the dub. PG went crazy yesterday, had 29. Jerry McClain had a 23 piece, but just wasn't enough, man. I think the Sixers, Caleb Martin had 17, and Embiid had 13.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Obviously, limited minutes, but did y'all catch that game? Yeah, I saw it. I mean, it's just, I don't know. I don't count it for nothing. I had the Sixers beating the Knicks, unfortunately, but it is what it is, man. Ah, man. I knew Embiid was going to be rusty, and he was going to play limited man. I knew MB was going to be rusty and he was going to play limited minutes.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I knew it was going to be tough. Mm-hmm. I mean, he ain't played shit. He going against a team that's trying to get on track. The Knicks, they trying to get on track themselves. So they was going to come out
Starting point is 00:12:15 with a lot of energy playing hard. But I was happy to see PG be aggressive. Very, very aggressive. Now he just got to continue that. And I think they found, they back up point guard McCain. He going to be a six man, I assume. Because he be hooping. Yeah, he going for to continue that. And I think they found, they back up point guard McCain. He going to be a six-man, I assume. Because he be hooping.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah, he can be for real, bro. Yeah, I like his game. He know how to score. Yeah. They need that. He can shoot that. He's a wild boy out. A boy can shoot.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And if he develops all season long, like having him and Maxie as, you know what I'm saying, second unit as guards together, that could really do some damage. I like the way he plays. Now with the 76ers, they talked about, basically, Embiid still flopping. Who's the worst flopper between Embiid or Jalen Brunson?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Probably Embiid. I mean, Embiid, bro. He act like McBride killed him, bro. McBride. Worded off that fake screen. Man, McBride is 190 at best. Nah, facts. And then the elbow cat. Cat can't catch a break. Elbow. Cat be getting his ass kicked during the Nah, facts. And then he elbowed Cat. Cat can't catch a break. Elbowed.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Cat be getting his ass kicked during the night, bro. And be hooping, man. That's why I got so much more love for Cat, bro. He be going through some shit on the court, man. I told y'all. And be picking on Cat, bro. Cat, one of the best players I ever played with, bro. Most skilled people I ever been around.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He got game. It's just them interviews, bro. They be trying. People think he soft or whatever they think. game. It's just them interviews, bro. They be trying, people think he's soft or whatever they think. Yeah. He ain't even soft, bro. He aggressively play hard. It's just them interviews. He just a nice person. Yeah, he just nice. For him being a good dude,
Starting point is 00:13:36 being nice, people take him. Because he really strong for real. On my mama. He's really a force. Yeah. For real, bro. So his image kind of, you right, bro. And it's funny because they was talking about this. They were just like, bro. So his image kind of, you right, bro. It kind of. And it's funny because they was talking about this. They were just like, Cat got the soft image
Starting point is 00:13:47 because Jimmy Butler had one crazy day at practice and wasn't an extension. They were just like, Jimmy wanted to get paid, had nothing to do with Cat being soft and we decided to do narrative together. I really think it's the voice changing.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's the voice. I'm telling you. The auto-tune? I think it is, bro. Like, the Jimmy Butler shit is right. Go ahead, bro. Nah, I'm saying if he ain't change his voice,
Starting point is 00:14:03 it wasn't, but. Like, Jimmy Butler, okay, that was the polarizing event that happened. Yeah. But, like, seeing him on the streaming services, post-game interviews, kicking it with his girl on YouTube, you a joke, bro. You a joke, bro. So that's why niggas feel like they can play with you. Pause.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But, yeah, I think that's why. It's the voice, bro. It's why i think it's feel like they can play with you pause but yeah i think it's the voice bro it's the voice because if you know cat like he's just a super nice guy bro he gave you a shirt off his back bro he cool it's just that voice shit like when he start having a deep voice to the little voice to yeah hey like he do all that shit bro people be like man who is this disney character like my boy just sounds like bro people be like man who is this Disney character like my boy just told like OJ the juice man in an interview
Starting point is 00:14:48 everybody was like hold on bro hey that's crazy listen the Sixers two and eight Derrick Moriarty said PG and Embiid
Starting point is 00:14:56 are not playing back to backs how do they get back on track because it's gonna take probably double the time for Embiid to get back can't do that bro
Starting point is 00:15:03 we off too much of a like too much of a rocky start. So for us to be 2-8 and we still have that ruling effect, you kind of messing up the team's future, I believe, especially so far as the playoffs is concerned. They got to make the playoffs before they can worry about performing in the playoffs. Like, it ain't no point. Y'all ain't going to make it if you're not playing back-to-backs. We ain't going to make it.
Starting point is 00:15:24 The whole point of it is so y'all ain't going to make it with not playing back-to-backs. We ain't going to make it. The whole point of it is so y'all can be healthy in the playoffs. Y'all don't make the playoffs, then it's stupid. But PG needs to just get comfortable. He might need to play as many games as he can
Starting point is 00:15:35 to get back to being himself. Last night was a good example of what Paul George is capable of. We want to see more of that. But Maxie being out, 9B going to be out on back-to-backs. They ain't going to ever build no chemistry. So it's going to be a tough road ahead for the Sixers.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I asked you that as a coach. If you're Nick Nurse, do you challenge the organization in that call and say, hey, I understand that maybe we do this later in the season, but right now we got to make this make sense. Because if not, like you said, our season's in jeopardy. Yeah. But also, you just got to do your job.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Like, if there's something they have in plan, NB don't want to play back-to-back. Yeah, straight up. PG probably don't want
Starting point is 00:16:11 to play back-to-back. Only one player can do that, though. But as a player, I'm probably going to say, if I see it going wrong, because I don't want to be responsible for this shit
Starting point is 00:16:20 going bad. Like, Paul George knew to the team. All right, fucking NB already went through his field. He didn't push people, did everything. Let him do him. Me, I'm probably like,
Starting point is 00:16:30 I can play a couple of these back-to-backs. I want to let Philly know that I'm here. Like, they already mad that you got the max deal, some people, that they paid and you're not performing at the, you know, like they think you can. Right. I'm probably going to take a little on myself and be like, hey, I can play this game.
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Starting point is 00:22:39 So for him to bounce back yesterday in that game was definitely good to see. But yeah, he going to be the scapegoat for sure if they don't excel this year. And for the Knicks, different score last night. You know what I'm saying? It's weird that the Knicks win and JB ain't the leading scorer, but you see a lot of contributions yesterday. Is this something that they could be successful going forward? We know the Sixers ain't that good,
Starting point is 00:22:57 but is this something they should probably build upon or they still need to get back to JB being JB? No, I mean, if they found a formula that can work, I mean, JB, you want to play as long as you can. The way he was playing, he was going to be injured. His career was going to be cut two years because he was doing everything. He had the ball the whole game, whole game, whole game, whole game. Trying to make a play, make a play. And now you see guys like OG stepping up, having moments,
Starting point is 00:23:19 Cat being able to be the leading scorer, take more of the offensive load. It's going to make JB's job a lot easier. He can just be a point guard. He can still score. He's still going to get close to 20 every night. But taking that off where he don't got to get 35, 36, it's going to save him a long time, especially for the playoffs. Most definitely.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And like you said, if all fails, if they get to the playoffs and everybody didn't do what they're supposed to, you know all fails, you can just give him the ball, clear out. You saw the proof last year. Well, that was the problem last year. He wasn't healthy. By the time they got to the last series, he was hurt, banged up, knee, what do you need,
Starting point is 00:23:52 surgery or something? Didn't he have surgery or something? Yeah, he got a game set with a broken hand. He went through a lot. He just had a lot of pressure and had the ball so much that eventually something was going to happen. So now he gets a chance to rest a little bit throughout the season and be better for the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I would say. Most definitely. Like we said, a lot of people benefit from the East not having a good start. Everybody expect it. So I think the Knicks
Starting point is 00:24:13 will bounce back. For sure. Staying in the East with it. Y'all Hawks, man. Yeah. They beat your other team last night. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:18 What you guys say now? 117-116. And straight in play. What? Beat him? What? It's Hawks. What?
Starting point is 00:24:25 We beat the Celtics. What? Y'all got the little dub. You know what I mean? It's a rigged game. Shout out to my boy Dyson. Dyson went crazy yesterday. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Dyson. Get rid of Trey, man. Let's just Trey Trey. That's how you gonna do Trey. I love Trey Young. Y'all know he my favorite player in the league. JB, pass the ball, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Pass the ball, bro. Passed the ball, bro. Who was supposed to pass the ball yesterday? Nah, I get you on your Malcolm X shit, bro. Passed to the light-skinned fella, bro. Which one? Because Derrick White had 31 in his face. Nah, not the body. He don't get no hoes, bro. Passed it to my dog,
Starting point is 00:24:59 Jason Tatum, bro. This is my revenge season, bro. You went on your run, bro. I think JT might have had 21 or something yesterday. He had 20 and JB had 37. Out of pocket. Out of pocket, bro. That's why we lost. That was a Georgia game right there, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:15 That's why we lost, bro. Swing, swing, swing that motherfucker, bro. Straight up. Don't let that happen again, bro. There's no way we should go down to the motherfucking Hawks, bro. Really? Come on, man. Out of pocket, bro. We playing 500 basketball right now. Come on, Dyson had 28.
Starting point is 00:25:29 He wasn't supposed to have more than JT yesterday. I ain't no losing to a G-League team, bro. And shout out to Jalen Johnson. He been killing, like you said, all season. 18, triple dub. He cold, bro. They locked him in for a great deal.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I told you, bro. He's cold. He's super cold. But Dyson Daniels played great. I mean, when one man go down, next person step up. but Dyson Daniels played great I mean when one man go down next person step up and Dyson Daniels hooped you feel me he did Clint Capella gave him some nice contributions B.O. Clint Capella low-key be hooping still B.O. Clint Capella is in trade rumors every year and never leaves Atlanta I'm just saying my boy got the phantom out there he
Starting point is 00:26:03 ain't tripping Clint Big bro's voice. Copella is doing well in the NBA. I can say that. I watched a little bit of his game yesterday and it was nasty because Larry Nance
Starting point is 00:26:11 had 19 yesterday. I said, this is a... Shout out to my boy, L. You needed some tick. They wasn't giving you no PT.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I love the NBA Cup. Everybody who, I guess, AUC's in the NBA Cup. But they should have been playing my dog. He ain't getting no PT for the first couple of games.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Now he ain't. He give you a better feel for the first couple of games. Now he ain't. He'll give you a better feel for the game, bro. He actually know what's going on. I'm surprised he ain't requested a trade because people can really use him. Most definitely. But now we using him. And we're on the floor with the best of them. I can say that. Like you said, his IQ is head-on.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I'm not going to ask Larry Nance, but Larry Nance can hoop, though. He can hoop for sure. I don't want to put too much sauce on him. He definitely can hoop. I remember when we was doing scouts, we wanted Larry Nance and the Florida Hawks to get him. We wouldn't use them, but now they're using him. We got to continue to keep using him.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And Dyson Daniels, we wanted him. We got him. Trey, Trey Young. Let Trey go. We can get some more pieces. Let's build around Dyson. No, I'm wilding. I was going to let you do your thing. No, I'm wilding. Build's build around Dyson no I'm wildin' but I was gonna let you do your thing
Starting point is 00:27:06 no I'm wildin' build around Dyson it's crazy but build around Jalen Johnson bro he yeah he the guy he hard
Starting point is 00:27:12 yeah he cold I'll give you that Trey Young is cold too but I mean obviously Trey he ran his course man are we gonna put too much on this for Boston yesterday or is it just
Starting point is 00:27:22 you know they got snuck it's just one guy people played out their snuck. It's not about nothing, bro. They got snuck. It's just one guy. People played out their body. Dyson Daniels don't ever score. He went crazy. That's my favorite part about the NBA.
Starting point is 00:27:32 When random people get an opportunity to hoop and they go crazy, it'd be funny as hell. He don't really hoop like that. Now, if this was Trey Young, I'd have been like, all right, Boston, we got to figure it out. But Dyson just had a moment. Okay. Shout out to the Hawks, man.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Your team being your other team. You didn't have the lowest in the world yesterday. Nah, bro. We playing 500 basketball, man. We're going to beks, man. Your team being your other team. You didn't have the lowest in the world yesterday. Nah, bro. We playing 500 basketball, man. We're going to be solid, man. We're going to be the 10th seed.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Never. Play in. Play out. Play it out. On me. We definitely better the Pacers quietly, though. You don't want that problem.
Starting point is 00:27:59 On my mom. You don't want that problem. Wait till Trey come back. Trey better than Tyrese Halliburton. Trey can come back. On me. We don't care. On me. I ain't even saying that because I hate the come back. Trey better than Tyrese Halliburton. Trey can come back. We don't care. On me.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I ain't even saying that because I hate the fact that— Trey, turn up, man. I just was joking. Trey, no, I'm not. Trey Young is better than Tyrese Halliburton. Oh, I'm not joking about that. I'm talking about Trey, Trey Young. I was just being funny.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Hey, Tyrese. We ain't got to worry about seeing, though. Trey Young is better than Tyrese Halliburton. Let's not never get it confused on this here show we never gonna do that I am a hawk but damn
Starting point is 00:28:29 oh now you a hawk ain't that some shit to the core shout out I'm supposed to be going up there for the Kimba you know they gonna
Starting point is 00:28:37 do something special with the Kimba I might be up there so shout out to the people that gave me a call yesterday I'm a hawk I did play for the Pacers dude
Starting point is 00:28:43 won't get that call again. I still love you though, Karen. Pacers is definitely not fooling with him. I don't give a damn who passed away. He ain't getting no call.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Oh, I know. They told me. Karen, I still love you though. I still love you though, Karen. Oh, but hey, your Timberwolves lost a trail play yesterday.
Starting point is 00:29:04 122 to win away. I'm sick. I threw my phone at the TV yesterday. Shout out to them Bladers. Oh, man. Smoked it up. Got to go to sleep this week. But I was glad to see Rob Will.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Tom Lord back hooping. Yeah. Glad to see that, man. Hey, I'm glad you playing. Get on that trade block, my boy. 100%. Run it up. Yeah, time to get on out of there.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Who could use him? We don't have to stay on it long, but who y'all think could use Rob? He needs to be. The Indiana Pacers. The Pacers definitely could use him. I swear to God, we need him. Him and Grant.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Pull up, bro. Grant had 21 yesterday. We need both y'all. Yeah, y'all need them. That might be a good trade for y'all. Who would y'all send over? That'd be the problem. I don't know what they want. They probably want a guard.
Starting point is 00:29:49 They're probably going to need Neesmith. They could take Neesmith and a pick. That's fair. If we give them a first round pick? Nah, y'all should never give a first round pick. No disrespect to my man Rob. Future. First round pick,
Starting point is 00:30:06 listen, that probably ain't going to happen. Second round? That ain't going to happen. Future second round. Future second round is crazy. Future 55th pick. Like, Nim Hart and Future. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Wait, you said Nim Hart and Nismith. Because that's two different people. Nim Hart. That ain't going to get you. Oh, if it's Nim Hart, you're not getting a pick at all. We need a pick, actually. Now, Nismith, I can sit the first. They ain't giving up Nismith.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Not for Rob. They're going to be like, hell nah. Come on, Tom Lord. But, yeah. The prayers could be. That's all I wanted to ask. We can move on. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Rob Williams, I think, like you said, we talked about him even going back to Boston. He's a big that can help a playoff team for sure. He be so hurt, though, so you can't give up on him. Y'all had to give up on Neesmith. Hey, listen, whatever. Just make the call, KP. I trust you, my boy. Hey, he had 26 yesterday.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Now he's reading 28. Light day for us statistically. It's a bad day. Yeah, it's a bad day. Y'all ain't score of 100, did y'all? We did. They did. Don't do too much.
Starting point is 00:31:03 We never, never under that 100 mark. But y'all 6 and five right now. That's fine. It's early, bro. You not concerned at all? Nah, bro. It's 82 games. It's 11 games in, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Bro, it's the way you start, bro. It's not, bro. It is. It's not, bro. It's always how you finish, bro. That's what she told me. If you start off right, she'll think you finished low. You start off, if you spit up like a newborn in the beginning. You gotta get it right key lock back.
Starting point is 00:31:26 You can go back. That second term is always bad. If you bad from the start, she gonna start dry. No, some some girls give you that.
Starting point is 00:31:37 You OK? I ain't never had a spit. We will say that for the podcast., if you got spit on a couple times, I ain't never had a spit scar, nothing. We will save that for the podcast. If it dry up, you got to come in with that. If you got the Gatorade icon, that's crazy. You got to come in with that thunder from down under. Sometimes when a woman work too hard at work, well, you be tired. You try to slip in there.
Starting point is 00:32:01 You can't play with it at the beginning. You can ease up. Come on, man. It's her time to do her job. You got to come in. you trying to slip in there you can't play with it at the beginning you can ease up come on man it's her time to do her job you gotta come in you gotta come in y'all already said I need that nectarine
Starting point is 00:32:10 to get me back in we need to fix the team rules not the podcast I'm just saying send the video I'd rather start off hot for us and then
Starting point is 00:32:19 see ease up see yeah we can catch a try I was gonna have 20 in the first half nah nah I got my stats see how the 15. I was going to have 20 in the first half. Nah, nah. I got my stats.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Team X had 15. Hawk started. Team X had 25 in the first quarter. This scored the rest of the game. That's cool. He was on the trading block. I averaged 25. I'm a killer.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, I averaged 25. I'm a killer. Stats are stats. Yeah. If I averaged 20 in the first half, don't score in the second half, I still average 20. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Y'all are crazy. Another random game. That's why NBA Cup is OD. The Pistons beat the Heat yesterday in OT. First of all, shout out to Tyler Hero. Went insane yesterday. I know, baby. He was pissed.
Starting point is 00:32:54 40 ball. Something slight. 40 ball. He hit three straight threes to take the game to OT. And then in OT, Eric Sproza pulled a Chris Webber and called a timeout that he did not have, which resulted to game winning. I know he cussed his assistant coaches. Out! Bro, there's a picture of Jalen Rose's face, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:12 They say he had PTSD. I was crying, bro. He was looking up in all that shit. Oh, he was at the game? Yeah. Y'all, that's crazy. C-Web, get healthy. He's still mad at C-Web for that.
Starting point is 00:33:22 No, they still beef with that. That's crazy. Put Spoh out of pocket, though. Hey, listen, it's crazy because we just praised him
Starting point is 00:33:28 because he drew up one of the coldest, you know what I'm saying, out of bounds plays to win the game and then, you know, so he has a brain like,
Starting point is 00:33:32 this don't happen too much with Spoh. No, but like, nah, I'm just messing with Spoh. Like Jeff said, though,
Starting point is 00:33:36 like, I think your head coaches get signals from your assistants like when, you know, because you'd be so locked into the game. So,
Starting point is 00:33:43 that was probably one of the guys. Yeah, one of the trainers, the head trainer usually know the timeouts and stuff so they tell you you got two left, you know, because you'd be so locked into the game. So that was probably one of the guys. Yeah, one of the trainers, the head trainer usually know the timeouts and stuff. So they tell you you got two left, one left, whatever. So obviously somebody must have told him we got one or he must have heard that
Starting point is 00:33:53 or forgot he called a timeout and called it. I know he pissed. He screamed at my fucking concert though. Man, he fucked that up. And the Pistons, boy, that was Super Bowl for them. For sure. For sure. They needed that win though, though. Man, he fucked that up. Yeah. And the Pistons, boy, that was Super Bowl for them. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:34:08 They needed that win, though, man. They needed that win. I was... It was crazy that it was that close, though. I didn't even see it being that close. But Pistons ain't a bad team. I was going to say, the crazy part about this is
Starting point is 00:34:17 the Pistons and the Heat didn't got the same record. Yeah, I'm saying the Pistons ain't that bad, man. Get healthy up. They do. I ain't saying they're the same team by any means.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's what I'm saying. Get well soon. Tim Hardaway, I seen he got carried off. Bro, Tim Hardaway, Denver got CT yesterday playing basketball. If I ain't in one position, he got elbowed in the head. I'm happy he walked away. He's fine for him. But God damn.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Sit this one down. Stop playing defense, OG. You do not have to play defense no more, bro. You were in Detroit. But nah, Detroit ain't bad, bro. I've been telling y'all this the whole year, Detroit. They solid. They're good for Detroit because they still cheeks.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But Cade Cunningham is OD. Like Cade Cunningham just started being back to play. They don't know the Pacers, bro. Why you keep putting us with these sad teams, bro? No, don't call them. That's crazy. Y'all just said they're not that bad. I said for the business?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Yeah. I mean, the Hall of Pacers. We're starting to east right now. for the business here. I mean, we're third in the East right now. The Hall of Pacers and Detroit, they all running the same kind of race right now. We're third in the East right now. I don't know where they at. I mean, third in the East, what that mean?
Starting point is 00:35:13 Y'all 500? I'm just spitting facts. Feel how you feel? What's Detroit record? It is. What's Detroit record? Tap in, please. They're not third in the East.
Starting point is 00:35:23 That's all I know. That's why I wish we was streaming because the chat would be on yeah please don't please don't compare me to these poverty franchises Detroit record probably poverty
Starting point is 00:35:32 three and six is sad they are what I'm saying is the Pistons fan base is so happy they won four games and we supposed to acknowledge that no
Starting point is 00:35:41 I mean shit they were I can't win for losing they better in the 60s right now. That would be nasty. Better than Milwaukee. Five and seven. They playing.
Starting point is 00:35:50 They're way there. They're playing 500 basketball. And the Pacers are what? Better than the Bucs. Better than the 60s. It's just not 30s. That's all I know. What's your record?
Starting point is 00:36:01 500. Five niggas. It's the same thing. Detroit, stand up Sada go crazy bring back Killian Hayes nah
Starting point is 00:36:10 he been killing the G though you know who really been killing the G it's the sidebar Trey Burt oh my god
Starting point is 00:36:16 for some reason I caught a G League moment and he's been going crazy off the Achilles too he tore his Achilles came back I was watching the TJ Warren kill.
Starting point is 00:36:27 He had 35 of them. I was like, damn. That's light paper. My boy in the bubble. We thought he was the coldest thing ever, bro. This is random, though. We know we get the Pacers hell on this show. Is the Pacers' best five ever better than the Pistons' best five ever?
Starting point is 00:36:42 No. Man, the Pacers ain't one shit. I'm just saying player-wise. Nah, if I'm starting at the PG, I'm starting at point. We lost there. Nigga, they have
Starting point is 00:36:51 Isaiah Thomas. We already lost. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Top three point guard all time. No, let's go. The Pistons don't have it.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Run your two guard. They got Rip Hamilton or Reggie. Yeah. But you can go Joe Dumars. I don't know who they like better in Detroit. I mean, I could be OD with the team,
Starting point is 00:37:08 but I was going to see how you're going to say it. I'm putting G. Hill at the two. You can put Grant Hill. Yeah, because then I'll put... Yeah, it's ugly. Because at the three, you put... George Hill played the two-two for the players. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:37:19 George Hill is not the best two-two. It would have to be Reggie because PG would have to play at the three. PG at the three. PG. PG, Tays play the three. PG at the three. PG, PG, Tayshaun Prince. I would definitely have to go Ron.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I'll play a small lineup because Ron's going to play the four. We need Ron. PG better than Ron Artes. Well, they're going to both start the three or four together. And the Pistons,
Starting point is 00:37:39 you're going to have to deal with that. Four? Jermaine O'Neal is your four. No, he's going to be the five on the team. I'm saying, I'm trying to make the lineup make sense because the Pistons have a really good team. We got to match up with that. Four? Jermaine O'Neal is your four. No, he's going to be the five on the team. I'm saying I'm trying to make the lineup make sense
Starting point is 00:37:46 because the Pistons have a really good team. We got to match up with them. I can't afford to be playing Rick Smith in this series but we're going to get clapped. Is Rasheed Wallace your four for the Pistons?
Starting point is 00:37:56 No, Ben got to be. Ben the five. Oh, well, if that's the case, then yeah, it's really ugly then. And we didn't even go to the new school Pistons
Starting point is 00:38:04 because it's a couple of them who was already doing that time period as well. It's a scary matchup though on really ugly there and we ain't even go to the new school Pistons because it's a couple of them who was already doing that time period as well it's a scary matchup though on the low because you ain't even say Andre Drummond or Greg Monroe I don't know how they fare
Starting point is 00:38:12 on the all time list oh my god let's go to sleep I love Greg and Drummond but you ain't even say smooth that's crazy we talking about all time
Starting point is 00:38:21 big three come on man what are we doing big moves what are we doing we can move on man that're talking about all time. Big three. Come on, man. What are we doing? Big moves. What are we doing? We can move on, man. That's a nasty all-time game.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'm not going to lie. Yeah, for you even to mention them too, DJ, you out of pocket. I had to mess it up the conversation. Suns beat the Jazz yesterday. Knew that was coming. 121-12. Listen, man. 9-2. Can they hold it down to 4-2?
Starting point is 00:38:41 KD, get back. Yeah, they holding it down. We're down with the Jazz. I told y'all. I mean, the Jazz. I mean, the Jazz. I mean, every team in the NBA is capable. You see my boys.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The Hawks just took down the defending champs. So everybody capable, but 9-2, they playing good basketball. D-Book being D-Book and Bradley Bill playing way better than he did last year.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I'm excited to see that. I seen you take GD for that 25, bro. He had 31. That's a good pick, Nasty. I was going to say the Bucks beat the Raptors yesterday. I'm not saying it's light work, but hey, the worst records in the NBA, but GD went crazy yesterday. Oh, John, bro. GD's special, bro. Who is GD?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Bro. Grady. Grady. Why y'all don't call that nigga his name? Ah, bro. Respect, bro. Respect to his family bro the lineage we need to see a family picture of him him be having they like
Starting point is 00:39:30 he got he does the jerseys with people now bro it's crazy bro I don't even want to repeat half the stuff he done put up boy Ravenstown but never let him do any of these jerseys swaps
Starting point is 00:39:39 boy rolling in his grave that's a great man but uh they both play bad basketball. Nobody scored over 100. That was nasty work. Under 100. Nasty work, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That's the rules. Nasty. Basically, the front office of the Bucs said they're not going to fire Doc Rivers. And usually when we hear front office make these type of statements, it's usually the opposite. But what has to happen for them to fire Doc this season? Not that we're wishing a black man unemployment, but what would happen if it kept going bad for them to say, you know what Not that we're wishing a black man unemployment but we'll have to keep going bad
Starting point is 00:40:06 for them to say you know what? Fuck it. He gotta go. Nobody cares bro. For real. That's crazy. As messed up as that seems nobody cares bro. People are really through with the books this year already. They just started. I'm done with the books.
Starting point is 00:40:22 It sucks and I hate Dame is in that situation because he left Portland to, he basically went to Portland again. Same situation, bro. Like, I'm confused. I don't know what we're doing as a franchise. Like, he didn't ask for this. You know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:40:37 He's been a professional about this because somebody in his position, obviously he's still got a lot to give to the game, but he's an older player. He could be like, hey't I didn't leave my comfortable situation being some bullshit I want to spend the rest of my prime somewhere where I can contend
Starting point is 00:40:49 y'all don't give a fuck he always people was mad at him for staying loyal yeah then he leave and y'all still criticizing him like
Starting point is 00:40:57 and he wanted to go to Miami anyway but he the ultimate professional and he's still a killer like I don't he gotta figure it out he got to figure it out, though. They got to figure it out.
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Starting point is 00:46:51 Melo killing, man. I've seen a lot of talk about Melo being a different market. Chandler Parsons was talking outside of his neck about him being a clipper. Do y'all think Melo should stay in Charlotte, or should he go to Greener Pastures? Nah, stay in Charlotte, bro. It's yours. It's yours.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I don't understand how this like leave. Talk about it. The goal is to be a franchise guy. Yeah. Like you want people
Starting point is 00:47:13 to come with your jersey on. You want people to love you. People to cheer for you. You want to be that guy. Right. Well, I want to go somewhere where it's already that guy over there.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Like you do that when you already 12, 13 years in. He's still building his resume. He's still building his fan base right now. Be that guy. Most definitely.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Go kill. Like you said, you can do that later in your career. Get this. You don't have to be on a max deal. Hoop out.
Starting point is 00:47:37 It don't matter right now. Be the guy. Fuck all that. I hate when people say that. Go be a clipper and do this. You're going to be even more famous. Man, he famous enough.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. I don't like when Chandler Parsons basically said that he, I don't know, wasn't a superstar. Like, do you not know that people have been knowing him since he was 11 years old, bro? He been like that. So he's been a star way before the NBA. Like, him and his daddy single-handedly turned social media up
Starting point is 00:48:05 with their just celebrity and their, you know, charisma just, I don't know where that came from. So, I think he should stay.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You ain't gonna be more famous than L.A. You already a global superstar, bro. Turn Charlotte up as much as you can. And it's a small market and they gonna overpay you
Starting point is 00:48:21 for whatever you want. with no expectations. No expectations. That's the thing. You can whatever you want. With no expectations. No expectations. That's the thing. You can have these crazy stats, no expectations. The pressure now on you. Now you get traded to the Clippers. I mean, they got it.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Their expectations ain't that high either. But say you go to L.A., you become a Laker. You already seen what it did to Lonzo. The expectation is way too high. And I'm not saying he's obviously better than Lonzo, but the expectations be way too high. People want all this. Man, just enjoy hooping,
Starting point is 00:48:48 killing. You've been injured all these years, these couple of years before this year. You playing at a high level. You playing free. You enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:48:56 It look fun. You getting 35, taking 30 shots. And losing by 20. And having a ball. And we still talking about he the goal. He top.
Starting point is 00:49:04 He called. He called. And they losing by 30. We don't ball. And we still talking about he the goal. He top. He called. He called. He called. And they losing by 30. We don't give a damn. Nah, bro. Enjoy that. Listen, get your all-star game now and get in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:49:13 That's all you got to do. You can get playing. Just get your all-star game, King. Get in the playoffs. 13, 14. Tracy McGrady got away with it. Facts. Tracy McGrady got away with his whole career killing and being sad
Starting point is 00:49:25 when it comes to the playoffs never making out in the first round bro not telling you to be a loser but it's okay if you go down that path
Starting point is 00:49:33 it's just about being a celebrity just average 30 average 30 just be a straight killer bro yeah for sure we'll figure it all out year 13
Starting point is 00:49:41 out the gate go to the Spurs and be a wop let the bitch get a ring oh him and Wimpy will be dynamic what
Starting point is 00:49:49 year 10 he get traded to the Spurs they gonna be retarded oh lord nah that would be what if that happens soon I know that's a crazy hypothetical
Starting point is 00:49:57 but the next two years if that happened that would be filthy bro and they prom together no filthy that oh boy
Starting point is 00:50:03 pop might live a little longer that might put an extra 10 on Pop. Pop might take the honey pack. I'm going to coach this team one way or another. Hey, man. Tonight's game. We're going to see who y'all feeling tonight. We got the Pacers at the Magic.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Who y'all got? Fuck them. Yeah. I take that as you're going with the Pacers. Who you got here? I'm going with, you know, the real blue. Shout out to Penny Hardaway and them. Shout out to the Pacers. Who you got here? I'm going with, you know, the real blue. Shout out to Penny Hardaway and them.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Shout out to the linealists, Nick Anderson and them. Well, thank God neither one of them are playing tonight. They'll be host of the game. Nick Anderson, he might miss the game. Shout out to the Fritos. I got the Magic, though. You out of pocket. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Honestly, I don't know how many more times we played a Magic this year, but we've played them enough in the first month of the season. Y'all in that same what what's her name though, right? What is it called? In the season tournament. No, I don't think so. Y'all cup is, I'm tripping, y'all cup is the Heat.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I don't even know how to work, I don't even know how to have a shot at this. It's been separated into 14 groups. You play Autumn, two home, two away. It's Tuesdays and Friday,
Starting point is 00:50:59 something like that. Because y'all's this weekend starts with the Heat. I was out of pocket. That's right. For sure. But yeah, Patriots, you know how we went.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Celtics at Nets. Yeah. Revenge game. Yeah. Sit down, Jalen. JT gets a point. Yeah, nothing. Why was you mad he had 37, man?
Starting point is 00:51:16 Because, bro, it wasn't a healthy 37, bro. He shot pretty good, bro. He wasn't gutting too bad. He just shoot more than you would like him to shoot. He was gunning, bro. But we passed that bro ain't no hate bro keep doing your thing
Starting point is 00:51:28 so contestants we going Celtics yeah okay Bulls at Knicks we going with the Knicks Knicks okay
Starting point is 00:51:33 light work Cavs at 76ers we going with the Cavs Sixers oh Sixers handed the first L to the Cavs Joel ain't playing who he ain't
Starting point is 00:51:44 Paul George ain't playing. Yeah, get well soon, Sixers. Okay, that... Blow Philly up, man. Okay, that was a quick... I forgot. Y'all right. I forgot that fast. They not playing tonight. That pisses me off even more. So, yeah, Cavs. PTO. Pelicans at Thunder.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Thunder. Yeah, I don't even know who playing for the Pelicans right now. Everybody is hurt except for B.I. That is crazy. Shout out to Brandon Boston, though. He be hooping. Most definitely got an opportunity to show that he can contribute to a team. I even liked him a little bit with the Clippers. He didn't get to play that much.
Starting point is 00:52:13 But, yeah, he can definitely show that. I'm glad he getting a chance to show people he can hoop, man, because he was one of the one and done kids that get lost in the shuffle. Mm-hmm. And now he getting his opportunity, and he making the most of it. Most definitely. 2B game, the first one, the Pistons at Bucks. Damn. You could have skipped that one.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. Because I don't even know if they ain't playing. Giannis been going crazy though. Giannis been killing. T.A., bring him back. Yeah, I'm going to go with the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Somebody told me T.A. on the team, he just hurt or something. I don't know. Yeah, didn't he tear his Achilles in the offseason or something like that? I'm not being funny,
Starting point is 00:52:43 but I don't know if they signed him back. I got to tap into that. I got to put him somewhere around, bro, becauserence Achilles in the offseason or something like that? I'm not being funny, but. I don't know if they signed him back, but I got to tap into that. He got to be, I got to put him somewhere around, bro, because, honestly, all the help he can get. Will you run away and be here?
Starting point is 00:52:50 What the hell was he doing, man? Working out, bro. Respect that he's a professional athlete. Facts. I don't care, bro. Just pick for me, bro. Stevie Wonder, that pick.
Starting point is 00:53:01 All right, man. Y'all see Stevie Wonder trying to kiss an old buddy? The tribe. Well, yeah, trying to. What, Jesse Jackson? Yeah. right, man. Y'all see Stevie Wonder trying to kiss an old buddy? The tribe? Well, yeah, trying to. What,
Starting point is 00:53:07 Jesse Jackson? Yeah. Boy. Damn, I was like, God damn, I didn't know Jesse was that
Starting point is 00:53:11 old. Oh, yeah, Jesse, too. He hanging on, he just, I said,
Starting point is 00:53:16 they might as well put Jesse in the motherfucking museum and let motherfuckers walk past him. He ain't work for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Make sure he gets the eBay follows this year. Jesse, Jesse Jackson is a wax museum character. I said, if y'all throw him in Vegas
Starting point is 00:53:31 and put the, what they do, hey, put Jesse in Vegas and let somebody, what's the dude I can't stop crying. What's the voiceover?
Starting point is 00:53:47 What's the old nigga that be doing a voiceover on everyone R.B. James Earl Jones fuck it let James Earl Jones give a speech about Jesse Jackson he was sitting in that chair
Starting point is 00:53:58 and he be doing this he was doing this it's stevie freaky ass stevie wanted freaky ass stevie came over there
Starting point is 00:54:14 kissing that nigga in his mouth i said man if his son or brother didn't tag stevie in his fucking chin
Starting point is 00:54:20 i'd have knocked the beans out of ste's shit. Kissing my motherfucking uncle in his lips like that, bitch ass nigga. And you did it twice, fuck me. Wizards at Spurs. I don't even know who pounded the money to you, Jeff.
Starting point is 00:54:44 That made me shitty see that be Jeff that be Jeff y'all I'm trying to reach 520 in the morning shit but they be turning
Starting point is 00:54:53 into club 520 sometimes my baby for real that was funny as fuck Wizards at Spurs who y'all got Clifton and Luis
Starting point is 00:55:04 Jesse Jackson won that game That was funny as fuck. What is that Spurs that y'all got? Clip that, Luis. Jesse Jackson won that game. Clippers at Rockets. Rockets. Go with the Rockets. Grizzlies at Lakers. Lakers. It's like the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:55:22 T-Wolves at Blazers. Damn, again? Damn, I'm sick of them niggas. T-Wolves. T-Wolves at Blazers damn again God damn sick of them niggas T-Wolves T-Wolves gotta wear Slugs at Kings I'm gonna take the Kings alright we're gonna
Starting point is 00:55:32 take the Kings yeah I'll take the Kings with that one verify Bucky's behead who was getting two yesterday gotta give it to Steph Nasty
Starting point is 00:55:37 my fault Nasty oh no I'll let y'all probably give it to Steph if y'all want to I'm taking Tyler Hero bro 40 Bob yeah
Starting point is 00:55:43 I'm glad to see Tyler getting back into that bag, man. He's a special, special. My favorite saltine in the league, for sure. For sure. You got nacho. I'm going to take Steph, man. What he did last night was impressive. Hitting the dagger three, talking to shit.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Man, I fucked with it. I'm sorry to use that language, but B.H. got me out my... I'm laughing, bro. So, my bad, but I'm sorry to use that language but B.H. got me out my like I'm laughing bro so my bad but I'ma roll with Steph bro he put on a performance
Starting point is 00:56:10 last night pause come on man you know I'm an honorary hornet so I gotta I gotta rock with LaMelo smooth 35 and 7 something slight yesterday
Starting point is 00:56:17 it don't matter if they got blown out cause my boy was still hooping we care about these stats anyway I know we talk about NBA on this show but I want to shout out to Russell O'Connor
Starting point is 00:56:24 cause he hit a finesse yesterday. If you've been paying any attention to the Bitcoin, it has been very beneficial to people who invested this week. My boy got half of his salary in 2020, $6.5 million
Starting point is 00:56:34 converted to Bitcoin. Now it is worth more than their contract at 20 yams on their investment. That is very five buckets to me because you're getting that money the right way. Yeah, who?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Damn. Yeah, finesse. Yeah, everybody probably clowning him for doing that too at one way. Yeah, who? Damn. Yeah, finesse. Yeah, everybody probably clowning him for doing that, too, at one point. Yeah, it caught him crazy. And there's other players who have been trying to do it. It's like, okay, what they're trying. Even, I think, CJ McCullough. Spencer did what he tried to do.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Spencer did what he tried to do, too. Yeah. Yeah, that cryptocurrency, it can get shaky, but I'm happy to see a success story. I need to see how you get the money out. How you get it. Yeah, like how you convert it to cash. I ain't seen it before.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, I can understand. They got ATMs and stuff now. Yeah, but for real, make sure you do it now, nasty. Cause you know,
Starting point is 00:57:12 that market get wicked. He better pull that, he better get that money out today. I'm cashing in. Oh yeah, for sure. The investments made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Favorite segment of the show, be him. Who needs some encouragement yesterday? Get well soon. You're honest. Bruno Fernando. My boy, Bruno.? Get well soon. Giannis. Bruno Fernando. My boy Bruno. I play with Bruno.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Little hands. Where at? In Atlanta. Oh my God. He did that? Bruno couldn't catch his shit when I play on his team. Who was that with that sweater on? Scotty?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Scotty Barnes. Yeah, he definitely dressed like Set It Off. What the fuck, honey mustard sweater? Scotty, you Yeah, he definitely dressed like Setterdorf. What the fuck, honey, much or sweater? Scotty, you out of pocket. That motherfucker neck too big on that motherfucker. I was going to say something. I'm going to save it for 520. I'm going to save it for 520.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Scotty Barnes. Yeah, I was going to say something. I'm going to save it for 520. Hey, I know Giannis the Shot Blocker, but get out of the way, bro. That's crazy. Yeah, he dunked. He dressed like a dude that be, what's that little character that be with the fist?
Starting point is 00:58:07 He caught him off Arthur with the fist. Same sort of Arthur head on. Side by side him, Luis for sure. He caught him Arthur. Art Vark. Eric's supposed to get to get well soon, man. Normally we don't do this to Ghost, man, but you caught that timeout yesterday, man,
Starting point is 00:58:24 to result in losing the game. It's crazy. Definitely crazy. get well soon, man. Normally, we don't do this to Ghost, man. But you calling that time out yesterday, man, to result in losing the game is crazy. Definitely crazy. Get well soon, Eric. And I had to bring this up about a weekend, man. Fran Brown, head coach, football coach, he says that after losses, he does not shower. Teague, as a head coach, I want to ask you, is that okay? I shower, bro. I ain't that sad.
Starting point is 00:58:42 We lost. Fuck it. I don't go home. He don't got no hoe. He get a four. He get a four. Not sure. Yeah, he ain't got no hoe, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah, that's crazy. Not sure. I mean, I don't get the point of that. Listen, I love winning, but I ain't about to be funky and losing. That's crazy. That's wild, bro. I think he lying, but whatever. Anything for the clicks.
Starting point is 00:59:02 For sure. Hey, listen. Yesterday's show got ended earlier than expected so we couldn't make some money be here it's Wednesday people trying to get some money for the weekend
Starting point is 00:59:10 yeah crash out y'all know what time it is bro block her get rid of her replace her today we have
Starting point is 00:59:19 Cam Thomas 25 points Jason Tatum passed the ball Jalen Brown 30 points. Freaky Ben Matherin, 20. That's life for him.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Shea, 30. Jalen Green, 25. LeBron's going to get 25 tonight. Victor, for sure, is going to get 30. So, you know, $100 wins you a grand total of $34,000. So, guys, tap in, bro. You know what I mean? Crash our bank account and get rid of her. Like I said, replace34,000. So, guys, tap in, bro. You know what I mean? Crash our bank account.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Get rid of her. Like I said, replace her, baby. It's almost the holidays, and make sure you use DraftKings. And if you're not hip to DraftKings, use promo code CLUB520. Get you a little bit of extra money for these crash-out parlays to be here. Can we use some money for the holidays? The crown is yours. Yeah, you did that good, DJ.
Starting point is 01:00:01 You know what I'm saying? We're trying to get a little bit more money out of this situation. All right, DraftKings. Tap in. I sent my thousand so I can bet. Oh, wow. Because I got it. They sent a Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Oh. Yeah, send a Bitcoin. Hurry up. What's the bet on Jesse going to the nursing home or the wax museum? I'm taking the over. Look at what's going on. We got to go. Listen, before we get out of here, of here we gonna holler at the live chat
Starting point is 01:00:28 man we appreciate y'all supporting us man before we get out of here this is where it went wiki yesterday in the episode we tried to get a live chat and we ended up being offline so
Starting point is 01:00:36 yeah we probably gonna end up offline soon okay oh we back okay Freaky Mike been in his bag they said it's a redemption game yeah somebody said it was a redemption game. Yeah. Somebody said it was a legacy game. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:00:57 That was funny, though. That took me out. I was weak. I ain't going to lie. I can't see that for her they're gonna have to read that to me he said I got a glass of Red Fox hat on
Starting point is 01:01:10 at Harlem Nights that's funny as hell that's funny as shit who said that all week B. John B. John oh he hilarious shout to Bodega Cat
Starting point is 01:01:24 it's crazy convinced B. Hinn no watch sports at this point damn man Hain are you Hinn B-John. Oh, he hilarious. Shout out to Bodega Cat. It's crazy. Convinced B-Hen no watch sports at this point. Damn, man. Hayden, are you here? Piss is better than the paces. The real pee? DJ Love having two hands on it. Pause.
Starting point is 01:01:38 That is crazy. And now you got some of mine. Pause. Get on my dick. 520 here. Yeah, he was here this morning for a show. He's here for the cast. Shout out to Justin Jackson.
Starting point is 01:01:48 He don't watch the show. Keep my voice from the electronics. Freaky Mike. Oh, man. Shout out to the comments, man. We appreciate y'all, man. Tune in every Monday through Thursday. We're about to get up out of here.
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