Club 520 Podcast - 520 South

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

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Damn, it's my hot motherfucker. All right, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast Season 2. Shout out to the volume. We on a way game right now, but we still at home. Shout out to All Stars Bar and Grill. Got some special guests with us. Special, special guests with us.

But to my right, I got the dogs with me. I got Bishop Greenleaf, my dog, B-Han, out the pearlies. How you what? Cool and nasty. Let's get to it. You drinking a slushie today? You acting different.

We got company. I ain't never seen this nigga with a slushie. I know. I forgot him at Bro Krib. It's all love. We're going to have a good show regardless. All right. Tomorrow, right? My dog, young Nacho, young Tig. How you what today? Man, I'm good, bro. We got family in the building. I kept it classy today by the dough. These weren't

by the dough. I had to bring them with me, but I kept it classy. Niggas on the internet say you got the biggest dough in the world because they're sure you got it right in your fucking garage. I just got a messy house. I'm not going to dive into that. Last but not least, we got legends in the building. Legends, legends in the building. One of my favorite people to see on YouTube,

watching these dudes do their thing individually as a team. It's inspiring for people like us coming up in this industry to see real niggas get money together, to work together, to thrive together. It's amazing. To my left, you got DC you got dc young fly dude she called me and last but not least my dog carlos how y'all living man appreciate y'all pulling up to 520 man pleasure to be here slim we were nervous i ain't gonna lie y'all was nervous in the city discount mall i was like this nigga this nigga setting us up. Ain't nowhere in the world. Exactly. Ain't nowhere in the world.

They got the beauty supply store next to the Mexican grocery store. I said, yo. Y'all thought this was a Toofy movie. Nah, nigga. For real. We didn't even park. We just kept circling the park. I'd be down. In the front and center.

They don't know T. They don't know where T really be Nah I be in the trenches At all times I seen that T I seen that T car right there Yeah That's a rich nigga truck Yeah that's a truck

They wouldn't have to Make some grocery store Yeah man Alright but man We appreciate y'all Pulling up on us man Tell them why y'all In the city man

We got the 85 South Show tonight man At the What is it The Fieldhouse Gainesbury Gainesbury Yeah Fieldhouse? Gainesbridge. Gainesbridge, yeah, Fieldhouse, man. We're in Naptown tonight, man.

So, you know, we're excited about being able to perform, you know, here. Because I don't think we ever did an 85 South Show in Indianapolis before. We done been here? We have? Oh, okay. Well, it's good to be back then. I don't remember when we came, but we love coming out here because there's so much love, man. So we're excited about, you know, the show tonight and, man, what the people are going to give us when we get out there.

Well, 100, man, we appreciate y'all. I got to start off with a question, man. We had Mike Epson and he sung y'all praises and he started off the show talking about the wildest city he performed in for y'all. What was the craziest place y'all performed in or like one of your wildest performances you had to deal with? Shout out to Mike Epson. That's the OG. Yeah, love Mike. I saw Mike said,

them some young old niggas. And if you get close to them, they smell like gin. Yeah. I don't drink. A nigga smell like gin is just crazy. That's the granddaddy. That's stupid.

I want to say I turned, for me, was Minnesota. Oh. Minnesota, huh? Minnesota. We ain't going to talk about Minnesota. He can't go back to Minnesota. Oh. Minnesota, huh? Minnesota. We ain't going to talk about Minnesota. He can't go back to Minnesota.

Y'all was in Minneapolis? Yeah. Yeah, he banned. You can't go back to Minneapolis. From the city or the state? Yeah, they paid me a lot of money, and I talk a bunch of shit about them. Oh, for real? Yeah.

Damn. They changed my life, though, but. So you feel like, oh, y'all feel like Minnesota was the best one? You mean as an 85 south shore Just in general Individual In general

Tallahassee, Florida man Me and Los had a show In Tallahassee, Florida And they had Our food In the men's bathroom Like No bullshit

Our green room Was in the men's bathroom That's crazy And niggas was still Using the bathroom They got chicken wings And shit In the men's bathroom We in the club were still using the bathroom they got chicken wings and shit in the men's bathroom we in a club nigga i don't even know what type of club this was it was

probably one of them places they had a male strip shows for the i'm telling you it was the wildest shit ever and we was in there just looking around and niggas just kept coming in as we doing the show coming in and out of the bathroom with our wings and shit we like niggas no nigga in a grocery bag like the nigga pulled up he ain't had the money at first he's like man i'll be give me 30 minutes i'll be right back i swear to god i'll be right back he's sitting there like this nigga ain't coming back and they came back 30 minutes later with the money in the grocery he came back with the ugliest money though the. The money was so ugly. You could tell it had been pieced together. Because it wasn't like, it wasn't nothing in the bag

bigger than like a 10 or a 20. Oh, shit. It was one of them. It looked like a whole lot of money. I was busting that down like some sherpas. But it really wasn't no whole lot of money. It was just ugly. He robbed a strip of cake.

Sometimes it don't be the city that be wild. It be the show. Like one of the craziest shows I ever had. I performed for about 400 recovering addicts on New Year's Eve. Oh man. Stay on stage for about three hours because they was, it was like, it was one of them things where they all get together and they was just so

excited to be having fun without doing drugs and drinking and shit. They just like, no, man, stay up there. Stay up there. Craziest outfit I ever seen. This old dude in there. You know that motherfucker with a mink coat? Right. He had a mink coat, but it wasn't made of mink fur.

It was made of mink skin? No, it had minks. Like the animal? Like it had a whole bunch of mink fur. It was made of mink skin? No, it had minks. Like the animal? Like it had a whole bunch of minks. Like you could see the whole body. They was like on the... They was just like hanging off. Full body minks.

And I was like, what you gave? Like, it's a mink coat. And I was like, I don't know if this is a joke or it's an unfinished coat. When we had that show, remember we started off... It an unfinished coat. When we had that show, remember we started off, it was around here. When we had that show, I just can't call it out. Remember when we first started, it was by like 150 people

and the promoter was sweat. It was like a Masonic. Yeah, yeah. Nah, I think that was when we was in Houston. We wasn't in Houston. We was in the middle of nowhere around here. What's the show people come to, but they go out for? What's the city?

I'm sitting around here. DC, that's too vague. No, it ain't, man. You got Gary. Fort Wayne. Fort Wayne. Terry Holt. Terry Holt.

And what's the other one? South Bend. Not South Bend. I pray they ain't seen y'all South Bend. I know y'all niggas didn't go to Lafayette. We didn't go to Lafayette. Everybodyri Hope. And what's the other one? South Bend. Not South Bend. I pray they ain't seen y'all South Bend. I know y'all niggas didn't go to Lafayette. We ain't go to Lafayette. Everybody skipping it. Anderson.

Muncie. Bloomington. The nigga that made y'all name every city. Oh, yeah. Oh, my. It's only in the middle of Indiana. I don't remember. It is in Indiana.

We got to do the Googles on that. Man. I remember the Masonic Temple. What about it though, DC? What happened? The Masonic Temple. What about us though, DC? What happened? The Masonic Temple show I remember was that one we was in Houston when them niggas was playing pool and watching TV and shit while we was performing at the same time.

Remember we was in Houston, nigga, and we was performing and wasn't nobody paying attention the whole night? Nigga. Oh, I did. How about when we performed? Peoria, nigga. That's Illinois. Oh, that's a nasty city.

Isn't that dope? That's a nasty city. It is. Yeah. That's what Richard Pryor's a nasty city. Isn't that dope? That's a nasty city. It is? Yeah. That's what Richard Pryor called. What was he about to say, though? I was like, I'm going to get that motherfucker in a minute. I had to stay still.

What happened in Peoria? Never mind. Nigga, we started off with 200 people, bro. It looked like there wasn't nobody fitting to show up. I ain't never seen this shit in my life, nigga. That was in Indianapolis. That was the show we did in indianapolis nigga when we had the baseball jerseys on yes yeah you talking about 85 that was the time we that was the last time we

and the first time we came in that time like 200 people show up in the beginning because we're raining and the promoter was sweating because he had to pay me he had to pay you and it was like another comedian nigga i'd be down by 20 minutes later nigga it's a lie it was like another comedian nigga I be down by 20 minutes later nigga it's a lie it was about a thousand people last night

it was about a thousand in 10 minutes in 10 minutes and the nigga had to pull more chairs up nigga we had a stupid show it was like

1200 people in that bitch it was people wrapped all the way around the building it was people wrapped around bro we ain't never seen he was like y'all just hold off for like 30 minutes

shit just got good that was one of the best shit. I was going to say, when we had that show in Houston, they got a comedy club down there. In the daytime, it's a DUI driving school. Wait, what? How y'all keep getting moved for all these goddamn crazy shit? Yeah, yeah, all the way.

We out here balling. We had a show at a college like that. All the motherfuckers who call you and you don't want to holler at them, they be like, man, just come fuck with me. I got what you want in cash. We did a show in Memphis at a college, nigga. We went to do the show with nobody in that bitch, nigga. The nigga put us on a golf cart

and took us to all the dorms on the college. We was going through the dorms, knocking on doors. Nigga's like, oh, they really came, man. They didn't believe we was coming. They didn't believe we was coming. Nigga, by the time we got back to the auditorium to do the show, that bitch was packed. Damn.

When y'all knew y'all was going to start doing arenas, though? When we started having to do three shows in one night. Four. Four. We had to do four. Damn, bro. And I used to really be like, I was the one they'd be like, bro, how the fuck are we going to come up with new shit

four times a day and get what these niggas do? We'll figure it out. I'm like, man, how the fuck are we going to come up with new shit four times a day? And guess what these niggas do? We'll figure it out. I'm like, man, God. Dang. Yeah, we was starting having shows at like 4 o'clock on a Sunday. What was that feeling like, though? Like, damn, we had made it to the arena.

So y'all doing 4, 6, 8, 10? Yeah. God damn. It's to the point where we're like We having fun But then like We gotta be strategic now Yeah You see what I'm saying

It was like Alright We left We had to I like to It's just a free game I like to go in spaces Where we pack out

Versus going to spaces Where it's empty seats That's what I'm walking into Cause now it's like You You need more room So once we realized We needed more room We was was like, all right,

we grew with our fans. Once our fans was like, Brown, we came out here. Two years ago, we did one show. Next year, we doing three, four shows. All right, we like to come to the club, but we can't come here and do this shit full time. We got to go into the theaters. Okay, we did two theaters today.

What's bigger than a theater? Now we into the theaters. Okay, we did two theaters today. What's bigger than a theater? Now we in the arena. Yeah, I think the first one we realized was Jacksonville. When we did Jacksonville, I think that was the first real arena setting that we did because we went to Jacksonville the year before and did like four shows in a day at the comedy club. And then we came back that next year

and we kind of all was like, man, big ass spot we great dude. And when we walked in that bitch and seen that motherfucker full, we was like, oh nigga, this shit different. Like to see all of those people and you know they there to see us, like that was just a different feeling. Like, you know, when you fill up an arena like that, it's a different type of energy. Cause you know, when you're in the comedy club, it's more intimate.

You can, you know, kind of hear the response response or you know kind of see how the shit is working directly with the people communicate but when you in that arena like that it might take three four seconds for the laugh to even get all the way back to you with so many people in there that's great and that's why and one thing i admire about y'all is y'all work ethic because y'all do a podcast and the show every single week on top of y'all collective 85 south and then y'all work ethic because y'all do a podcast and a show every single week on top of y'all collective 85 South and then y'all individual. How do y'all like prioritize what comes first? Like how do you

manage all that? Man with the plan. That makes sense. Cause it's just so like for me, like we, you know what I'm saying, shout out to Volume. They asking us for a little bit more now. We in the situation. I'm like, how we gonna figure that out? But I see y'all, shit, y'all on the road every day and still delivering content. Does it help overall with the show?

Or does it like, damn, I got to make more shit to do this shit? Nah, because it's organic. It's in the moment. You can tell. Like, we just have the type of talent and the gift where it's like, we can express ourselves in anger and it still be funny. Or we can come in and be in the best mood and just take this shit to another level.

Or we can walk in, like you said, in these places that we describing and be like, this ain't shit. We got to make it something though. It's fucked up. We about to act like it this ain't shit. We got to make it something, though. It's fucked up. We about to act like it ain't fucked up. Like, we get to choose our own narrative. But that crowd changes the whole, changes us, the feeling. Like, we can tell when this is a crowd that fuck with us.

And we can tell when it's a crowd that, all right, they want us to prove ourselves for five minutes. Oh, they want some. They came straight to, okay, now they loose. Like, you can feel that shift when they say, okay, I just wanted to make sure I was at the right shit. Like, you can feel what the crowd want to hear. Like, how you said that, too. Like, do y'all get the DJ going to get the crowd loose?

Like, what do you do to get the crowd loose to, you know? Go ahead, fam. We just, you know, it's like you said, it's organic. Like, the question you ask, Los is our big brother. He's our elder. He's been doing this shit longer than both of us. And he had an understanding of the game from a perspective that we kind of been blessed in the game never to have to experience.

Like, he done been through the trenches in a way that, like, by the time we got all the way in the game never to have to experience. Like, he done been through the trenches in a way that, like, by the time we got all the way in the game, that style of comedy and the way that the journey that he had to take didn't even exist no more because the internet came out. So him having an understanding of that side of it and having an understanding of the internet side of it, he figured out a way to make this shit work

to where it was organically ours. We all come from all wild and out so we know what that structure looks like or the corporate structure and what it looks like to go on that side and be on something major like that but just the creation of what we do is the freedom of the fact that we don't have to know what we're going to do like that's a level of pressure that you take off yourself as a comedian or just as an entertainer in general you know i mean it's kind of like what i would think that and one is like if you're playing and one versus the league like the league is you know you got to play under the whistle and

one you get to come out there and show what you can do so this is kind of like and one in regards to the way the destruction game is we on both sides of it but when we come and do this it's just the fact that we can come out. Sometimes we don't see each other till we at the place we already performed because we all coming from three different places. But when we come in, we ain't got to say, all right, staff meeting. All right, look, what are we talking about tonight? We've never had to do that one time.

It's just, all right, grab the microphones. We can go out there and do whatever we want to do. And that's just, you know, from Los having an understanding of the game and us just having the talent to be able to blend it to where it just looked like we'd be doing this shit every day, practicing when we show up and do these shows. That's because I feel like we interpret. Like, we get to go out and we get to just hear all the shit

that other people can't say. Right. And we just have to interpret it for our crowd. Right. Like, we know the shit that other people can't say. Right. And we just have to interpret it for our crowd. Right. Like, we know the shit. Like, you got a job. You can't afford to say shit

and lose your job. They gotta come to your job and say that shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, we have to kind of be the voice of the people.

And they don't even know how much of an influence of our style of comedy that they are like sometimes we get off stage and we're like bro did you see this shit man you got to talk about this shit not as not like don't talk about it from the 85 south perspective talk about it how you would talk about it at your show right like you telling your crowd. Because we all got individual crowds. And they all come to our individual shows. And they let us know, man, I called Chico, called DC.

I had to come see you. Or, you know what I'm saying, vice versa. So these people tell us exactly what to say, what to do, what type of show they want to see. Because we put these shows out every week. And we see what they respond to. Like, we could easily go out every week and we've seen what they respond to like we could easily go out there and do our sets or do a set or give them stand-up comedy but they want to

see us be stand-up comedians the guys they know from wilding out and the guys they sent on the internet they want us to all right fuck them jokes, man. Chico, make up a song, my nigga. I bought this ticket just to see y'all rap. Y'all been, fuck all this laughing and joking. We came to see a song, nigga. Talk about the potatoes. Talk about them hoes. Bro, you don't see them?

They'll point them out like, hey, she been acting up before y'all got out here. Like, that's the type of shit they want to see. So we just doing a great job of interpreting that. And that's a good way you said it, man. Like, y'all are legitimate entertainers. Like y'all being like y'all you can tell it's organic like the way that y'all be starting them songs off you would think that shit been written but i could tell you get to freestyle i'll be like that shit's crazy like them niggas just thought that shit up and it's amazing freestyler this nigga music iq is fucking... I was just about to... It's off the chart.

How the fuck do you be remembering all those fucking songs? I thought I was a historian, nigga. You different. You know, I don't know. To be honest with you, it might be a slight form of autism. To be honest, dog.

It gotta be. It gotta be. Shout out to the autistic community. Like, if we had to write a classical music song, I'm going to get Chico. If we had to write a country record, a pop record, jazz, this man fucking with every genre of music. I heard bro do that twister. Yeah, I mean, that's, you know, just growing up, that was something that was given to me

from the dudes that influenced me. My father got killed, so all of my, you know, influences was that was something that was given to me from the dudes that influenced me my father got killed so all of my you know influences was dudes around my uncles and the i grew up around in the streets and i would just you know take to whatever they was into and whatever i saw them think was cool i thought was cool and i would want to impress them you know it was kind of like looking for validation from the people i wanted to give me you know the love that i wasn't getting from you you know, not having my pops around. And that kind of what created the love for the music. Then my uncle Ricky, a DJ.

So I would go down to his room in the basement and this nigga would just sit and just play me records all day long. Like, and he would mix and scratch his records. So that's, and then my aunt Mary had a big record collection. And when she cleaned up on the, on the weekend, she would let me sit down and go through the record collection. And I would just pick what I wanted to hear based off of what the cover of the album looked like.

Rob Markman, So it was just all the way. And that's like that musical inclination. Cause like this nigga can't nobody freestyle better than this nigga. Like me with the musical inclination of being able to coming up with the, and this nigga is one of the most talented niggas in the world when it comes to this he's like a swiss army knife this nigga know how to do a little bit of everything good like play the drum skateboard cut hair you know i mean all types of shit so when this nigga get to like when you put that together you can't lose you know i mean because he gonna be able to sing this shit in a way to where you

would think that this nigga's going to go in the studio and put this shit out, but this is happening right in front of your eyes, you know what I mean? Can I ask you a question? The coldest shit I seen this nigga do, when that nigga was skiing down that big ass fucking hill. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Wait, what? This nigga can ski his ass off. He can do everything, man. Listen, I'm talking about down some hills where, listen, before you go down the slope, I'm like, I'm tripping. Fuck it. 50 miles per hour. Bruh, but he's stroking that.

We need the footage. He's stroking that bitch. Don't tell her. I may fall once or twice. That's right. But that's for me to get them know the mountain. Once I know the mountain, I'm like, bet. I'm finna come back up here.

Niggas say get to know the mountain. Oh, you got to. Because nature, you got to respect it. If I'm finna come down this mountain, I ain't finna come, I'm like, bet, I'm finna come back up here. Niggas say get to know the mountain. Oh, you got to. Cause you, nature, you got to respect it. If I'm finna come down this mountain, I ain't finna come down this mountain like, oh, I'm a nigga that ski.

No, I'm a nigga that skate. First off, so that me, I know how to hold my balance. These ain't nothing but some long ass rollerblades. So what I got to do is, adjust to what this is.

So once I started adjusting, I was like, oh, okay, cause that's just how I am. My mama put me in everything. But I always thought like, I was like, oh, okay, because that's just how I am. My mama put me in everything. But I always thought, like, I don't want to be here.

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season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. and I played all type of instruments. I played all the percussion. I'm a percussionist. Me too.

So you play percussion? We're from the same lineage. So you play sound. And my mama old and a motherfucker. And I'm the youngest out of 10 kids. So you know what time it is. We on the same type of time. So you know what's up.

You're the youngest out of 10? Out of 10. I'm the youngest out of 7. My mama coochie hanging off the side of her leg. Boy, you better not stop talking about your mama coochie like that. Hey, mama, I'm sorry that nigga ditched you. She sit right there. My coochie hanging off the side of her leg. Boy, you better not stop talking about your mama coochie like that. Hey, mama, I'm sorry that nigga ditched you. She sitting right there, my coochie hanging off the side of my leg. Disrespectful.

The way she really is is she just sitting there like, that's my baby. Tell them how old your oldest sibling is. 60. His brother older than yours. Your oldest brother is my baby oldest brother. Yeah, you a grand. What you say? You a grand brother?

Oh, yeah. I got a grand brother. My oldest brother. I'll call that nigga right now. He got to be about 60 something. Why did? Nah, but I come from that. You got to watch out for them church drummers.

Yeah, I'm a drummer too, by nature. We have a battle every week. I'm putting shit on true to go. And I say Jay-Z to go. You the music, man. I would love to know. Hey, Kurt. How old you here, man?

67. 67. Shout out to OG Kurt. Shout out to OG Kurt. 67. man 67 67 this thing is talking about future and jay-z what i'm saying is that's just who i prefer i respect jay-z whole catalog what you just say what he said we had a show one time he was like future the goat man and i was like he better than Jay he was like hell yeah ain't nobody fucking with that

to me and I love I respect music for sure Jay Z so far as lyricists give me Jay Z I'm just talking about Future

hold on though to me Future helped that whole Atlanta I'm getting my thoughts together no I'm saying Future to me helped that hoe, Atlanta. I see my hands going. I'm getting my thoughts together. No, I'm saying future to me helped that hoe. Like now, it's more niggas like future than it is niggas like hoe.

You don't believe that. Retweet. Rapping? You don't even believe that. Rapping? Yeah, I do. I know you don't believe that. I'm not.

He's making it a thing. I'm not. And then you explain the other side. No, I'm saying they making it seem like. Are not and then you explain the other side no i'm saying they making it seem like are you saying best and to me bro agree because why do we as a community we have to put somebody better than i'm not and i don't come why do we do that we don't have to what i'm telling y'all niggas personally who i prefer i'm listening in the future before i can respect your preference your preference is your

preference that's my preference you gotta preface that because you can have right like musically i got a personal top five and then i got a uh a top five that is you know the top five based on categories and the way everything so the that top five is a little different than my personal top five. You know what I mean? But as far as, like, if you're comparing the two, that's unfair to Future. And absolutely I'm not. He just be on me. He tell me I gas Future too much. I don't.

Imaginary Players by Jay-Z is my favorite song by Jay-Z. I just name five of the most opposite-ass things that they said just to piss them off. Right. They be dead serious. You just like him. I'd be like, man. Me and him got a beef when it comes to my top five. Go crazy. Who are your shits?

My top five. Let's hear it. My top five? For sure. I'm from the south. So I understand where you may be coming from. I'm a T.I. For sure. This is my top five. Shout out to Tip Pauls.

T.I. all day. I know almost every word, song, like song, word for word. Urban Legend, top five album. Feel Mob. Feel Mob. Yeah, that's crazy. Outkast. Outkast out the gate.

Eminem. That's a nasty ass five. Yeah, that's crazy. Outkast. Outkast out the gate. Eminem. Ooh. And, uh... That's a nasty-ass five. Ooh. Bill Maude to Em is crazy. This between a Joe DeBreeze or Lil Boosie for the last five.

Yeah, that's a wild five. That's a wild five. That's a personal top five. It's a personal. Now, I respect that. That inspired my musical talent, why I'm like, like. Why you're jabber-walking and all that other shit. I understand.

But I'm saying, like, you're not going to judge his top five. I don't listen to none of them. That's what I'm trying to tell you. But that's why we got to say preference or. Yeah, I don't be. I don't be. I don't be trying. Right, because he always.

Please, let me hear your playlist. Nas, Jay-Z, Biggie. I don't be I don't be I don't be trying Right cause he always Let me hear your playlist Nas Jay Z Biggie Uh Drake And Lil Wayne That's his top five

But ask him about his playlist Cause it don't pass 2008 Ah yeah I don't listen to nothing Heavy Boosie Heavy Webby Yeah You come to my house

And it's a party I'm stuck in 2007 And below See when we come to music We gotta say Okay your top five That you like And then you got a playlist That you party. I'm stuck in 2007 and below. See, when we come to music, we got to say, okay, your top five that you like and then you got a playlist that you listen to. I'm going to be one of them.

I don't even listen to none of them. Who I just named. Unless I'm just on that type of time. My everyday, I'm R&B'd out. Out the gate. Oh, yeah, I got a list for you when we leave. 18 hours, I got you. R&B'd out. Trash. 18 hours.

18 hours of trash. And motivational speeches. I got you. R&B'd out. 18 hours? And motivational speeches. I got a little bit of that, too. Who's your motivational speeches? I'd love to hear that. Don't do that. Chico, who you? Who your top three? We do your top three. Top three what? My personal top three rappers? Top three? You don't get five.

Yeah, I don't even get five. You can do your five. I'll do your five. I'll just, you know. My personal top five rappers, Pop, Pimp C, Scarface, Twista, Master P. Don't get them started on Master P. Everybody got a whole different top five. Go crazy.

The lineages are different. One thing I got to say, too. I saw you on T-Pain's podcast. Y'all, dude, you doing that performance is crazy to me. Like, going back to you, just remembering, like, that was crazy to me. That was my mama's favorite song. Like, that's how I would always know when a nigga would break up with my mama. Like, she would play that song in the morning, mad, whatever situation she had going on.

And that's the song she would play. Superwoman, you know what I'm saying? So I played that at my mother's funeral. But it's like, as far as me, like, remembering music, it only take me two or three times of listening to a song to at least be able to get the first, to where if I'm listening to it, you wouldn't think that I only listened to it three times.

It's just the way the shit registered in my mind. You know what I mean? But as far as, like, what I listen to every day, man, you wouldn't know who the phone belonged to if you looked at my playlist. Like, I listen to all types, and it's crazy because one genre I never listened to was gospel music. Like, never. Damn, we music. Damn it. Damn.

We grew up on that. Nah, we was. Down in McClurgland? Oh, you're good. I mean, that commercial stuff, yeah, but we ain't. Richie Dillard? Y'all got to be like that. Nah, for real.

Like, it was a, you know, the Bane household was full of heathens, nigga. Like, it was all, it was all, I'm talking about the bullshit in regards to the messaging and the music I didn't listen to gospel music like I didn't hear something about the name Jesus until 2019 for the first time like and that shit was like

Smokey Norfolk? I don't even know who that is but like that gives me the opposite it's like I've been introduced to a new genre of music as a grown man like I just watched the Kirk Franklin documentary and that's it's like i'm looking at a new artist i had no idea this nigga had 19 grammys i know stomping i had no idea that kirk franklin was this nigga

is a mogul not make the that's his music got to be with christians fuck too like that got to be man i can't believe like for real like bro like that. Got to be. I can't believe. Like for real. Like, like that. What do you ever thought about that? Like, like, do they have?

Yeah. Like you got to fuck this. You know what I mean? So what the coaches say. So you might catch me. You might catch me listening. I'm trying. Someone rubbed my. You might catch me listening to y'all niggas. I'm trying not to laugh at you.

Someone rub my breasts this time. Slow down. Time to have fun. Hold on, though. I'm a chump out in the G for G's. G for G's? G's for G's? I'm going to start right now. You got to have that fucking faith in you.

But, you know, just the, I think that the musical influence of all of us, like we all, like this nigga didn't put me on the shit. This nigga didn't put me on the shit. We didn't all put each other. Like this nigga put me on to a song by a nigga named Methron called Loving Each Other For Life my listening to this shit for two and a half hours straight nonstop back to back

that's the beauty of music to me like no matter how much you know you ain't never heard you don't even know a third of it like you know what I mean it's so much that you ain't never heard before so I got a question I know y'all at DC said we shouldn't compare. Just what y'all

prefer? Cash, money, or no limit? Nah. That's a trick question. That's a trick question, dog. Because you gotta understand the era and what both teams have done. You gotta understand because not only just for New Orleans. Okay.

Because no limit did a lot for Snoop. Shout out to the Lenny's. You feel me? You shouldn't have to pick. You really disrespectful as a motherfucker for asking us this question. You can't pick that.

I'm not. That's some disrespectful shit. It's hard because you... I said who you prefer. I didn't say who better. It depends on what day it is. You can't pick between No Limit and Cash Money.

I'm going to give you... It depends on your age limit. If you a't pick between no limit and cash money. I'm going to give you, it depends on your age limit. If you a young nigga, you are a cash money nigga. But if you an older nigga, you going to pick no limit because cash money is a younger version of a no limit. That's a fact. That's all. You know.

I ain't rolling, but. I'm letting you know, as a 40-year-old black man. Yes, sir. I'm letting you know, as a 40-year-old black man, when Cash Money Records took over for the 9-9 in the 2000s, I was the niggas he was talking to. Preach. My generation made them babies off them songs. Do you know that there are 23, 24, 25-year-old people walking around right now

because of my generation's irresponsibility during the summer of the 9-9 in the 2000s. Speak, Lose. Speak. Them babies right now are 22, 23. Them my homeboys kids. Them my classmates offsprings. Them girls who was pregnant at the football game.

I'm cash money. That's because they was backing that ass up that whole summer. I don't think no lemon got memories like that. Look how you speaking. Look how you speaking. But I also was there when all the bad bitches in the club had a no lemon tattoo right there on that thigh by that coochie. Come on, man. I remember being a young nigga.

I remember being a young nigga the first time I heard Swamp Niggas, we was in my man Matt Baseman. We was in Matt Baseman, man. I heard it when it was new. Matt, brother. They didn't have no commercial, no promo for that shit. You just had to listen to the whole album

because Swamp Nigga won the last song. Won the last song on the LHTRU album, but Matt, brother. It was two tapes. He was in the streets. Two CDs. He had all of the different music and shit, so we used to sneak downstairs

and listen to all the music. Yeah. And when that Swamp Niggas came on, I was like, nigga, what the fuck is this? Yeah. And that nigga, man, that masterpiece,

you couldn't tell us that nigga wasn't the ice cream man. We was looking. Y'all ain't finna sit here and say, yeah, they ain't twins, they better than all that shit. Wait a minute. No, we not. That nigga, man, that was the ice cream man. We was that nigga is the only nigga Wait a minute.

No we not. That was a bedroom boom is a classic. That was a moment in no other history that made the world stop.

And it was a lyric. Who? When that nigga Mystical said I'm the lightning in bad wealth. I'm that nigga on that picture

on your girlfriend's dress. Come on mama that was hard. Everybody that was hard. Come on, mama. That was hard. That was hard. That's a classic line. I wouldn't fuck with this song like that till I heard it. Nigga, when you would buy a No Limits CD, you would look

in the book and see all of them albums that's coming out. You don't know who none of them niggas was. But you was buying that shit. Nigga, I remember I went and tried to get my mama to buy me Skullduggery. Nigga, I didn't know what the fuck Skullduggery was,

but I wanted that shit. You wanted it because the graphic design was hard. That's why niggas wanted it. You were on no limit, bro. Skullduggery, my nigga. I wanted that Skullduggery.

Niggas wanted that. And on the bottom where they said, on the way, they had a list of 85 niggas you had never heard before. Man, they ain't never heard of, but they was selling them.

I believed in them, because people believed in them. You can't make that choice, man. That's hard. I grew up on cash money, but I know No Limit was No Limit was No Limit. No Limit gave us hope. Cash money

made us feel like we already had money. We felt like we had money with them. But Master P reminded us that we hood niggas. I'm from the projects. I grew up on eggs. And lunch and meat. This shit is forever in us. That nigga know every word.

That's fire, man. You see it? Yeah, oh God. That nigga know every word. You can't tell me. I feel like C-Murda is my brother, too. That's how deep I am In these no-landing streets But I'm also A cash money hot boy too What y'all thought about

BG getting out? Come on Man I'm excited He should've been out Three years ago I almost said free BG My boy I'm glad you're home Hell yeah

Welcome home I had a question I had a question Since you asked I'm glad you're home. Hell yeah, welcome home, Jizzle. Yeah. He should be home, stress-free. No paperwork or nothing. I have a question. Since you asked it, I got to ask you as an ex-NBA player, as somebody that played on the highest level, what's your opinion on the Jordan LeBron debate? He went and joined, so there you go. I mean, it don't matter.

You know what I mean? Jordan LeBron. Jordan, like, he over there. He don't exist, You know what I mean? Jordan LeBron. Jordan, like... He a motherfucker. He over there. He don't exist, really, to me. He, like, unbelievable. He can't even be talked about. It's like LeBron,

then you start talking about everybody. But, like, Jordan in his own world. So, like, Jordan like a Michael Jackson. Yeah, you don't even talk about him. You can't compare him. Nah, you can't compare him. You can always compare LeBron to Jordan because he's the greatest,

but Jordan is like, I usher Chris Brown. Like, you'll be great over here. Yeah, just like that. It's like Michael Jackson. We from Indiana, so Michael Jackson definitely over there. See, that's how good Michael Jordan is. We all grown-ass men, and we still know that. Like, you wouldn't say the wrong thing on this podcast

and let Mike hear it. When I see that nigga. Sorry to God, why I got this shit going. But this is the thing, though, with LeBron. You believe Mike and Hoop today. But this is the thing I had to respect with LeBron. When you look at stats, this motherfucker's in top three everything. Everything. He got the most buckets ever.

You cannot. You cannot say he's not the greatest. He may not be the most entertaining. Yeah. LeBron. Nah, that nigga. No, it's cool, but when I say entertaining, I'm a dog, bro. Like, I'm one of the ones that

got that, like, the Russell Westbrook energy. John Morant. All that John, like, that like that's me like you got control to own this entire what lebron did was he took it by storm of business i know how to control this as a business absolutely you know how to control it as a business use it as a marketing tool to be like okay let me go get all the dollars i'm going to get all the dollars because of I play good. I'm going to get all the dollars because one of you niggas is going to get on a postcard today. We're going to make that exciting. That nigga got stats and everything.

That nigga pulled a top. Nah, that nigga got everything. Rebellious. Like I said, he's top three everything. Everything. But I like electrifying. He unbelievable because the role he had to take is different. Man, that's what I'm saying.

I respect Jordan. I watched Jordan as a young nigga. He earned my respect. You know what I mean? Jordan is, like you said, he's a godlike figure. But that nigga ain't had to do what Bron had to do. They been watching Bron since this nigga was in the sixth grade. This nigga that been touted to be the next greatest since the sixth grade

and held that up for 30 years. You still talking about time, Aaron? You gotta talk about the time, man. But this is how I feel, though. You gotta think. Bron look up to Jordan. Like, he look at Jordan like, damn. Everybody does.

Yeah, that's why I just put him over there. Yeah, but everybody does. Jordan stopped, came back, and showed y'all niggas how to do this shit, man. This ain't no... That's why I just Put him over there Cause it's like We all looked up to Jordan

I mean everybody did You know what I mean I guess it's a little Different for me Because Iverson Is my personal Goat Mine's too

That's my personal goat Like when I Iverson had more Of an impact on me As a young nigga Playing ball Than any basketball player Or any athlete

Him as an athlete had more impact on not just me, my community. Niggas wanted to be like AI. He from that area. Niggas wanted to be like Mike, and that's true, but not the way we wanted to be like wizards. We wanted to be like AI.

Nigga, we all wear Jordans. I love Jordans, but I ain't never wanted to wear a pair of them jeans. Like, I never wanted to. Yeah, it's different. Y'all talking about off-the-course shit. I mean, but does that not encompass the debate? And does that not encompass why, you know, you got to put that?

Because we never got to see Mike in this era. Could you imagine? You know how they say Mike B. Curran, niggas. I don't know if you ever met Mike before, but I heard Mike be talking to niggas. Mike would talk shit to you. Mike be calling you a hoe ass nigga. He call you a bitch ass nigga. Sound like a Kevin Dardenne type player. Iverson changed the game, though.

Mike would talk bad to you. Mike would talk bad. What you say? Mike be talking bad. Mike would call you a hoe ass nigga and walk off. He'll call you a hoe and walk off. And you gonna take it because Mike. You didn't know that shit? Mike be talking bad. Mike will call you a hoe ass nigga and walk off. He'll call you a hoe and walk off. And you gonna take it because Mike. You didn't know that shit? I mean, Carl.

You see how he did? Ay, y'all, when he said the first time he met him, he said, what's up, you little bitch? Yeah, that's a true story. Ay, y'all said that out of his mouth. But what if Mike would join people from New Orleans and that's just how they talk? What's up, little bitch?

Yeah, that's what Kevin Gay said. That's how he just talked to motherfuckers. What you been, bitch? You should just say Kevin Gay. I want to say it to Matt, but I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it to you. I want to say it Durant. I would've said it, but I would've said Kevin Durant too. I would've played it all.

Y'all act like y'all don't know niggas from Florida and Louisiana. Nah, he told me to take off his shoes one game. I have put on some Bordeaux 7s

to hoop in the game trying to impress him. Like, damn, maybe if I hoop in some Jordans, I get a Jordan deal. No. He like, hey, motherfucker,

who told you you can wear them? Hey, can you get my other shoes out the back? Testing his game? You know what I'm saying? You talking about in the real game? Why, you in the NBA? Yeah.

How did that feel when a nigga you look up to tell you, who the fuck told your bitch ass to put them shoes on? Shit, I got nervous. I'm like, hey, get my other shoes

out the back. He know you got them on now? Yeah. He got PTSD. He never say, I was just playing. No, he did. He was like, why you take them off? I was like, you said take them off.

He was like, man, this motherfucker. See, I wouldn't be able to take them off. Yeah, I was like. I'm sorry. You didn't respect y'all, nigga. I'm sorry, man. I'm about to say something back. You got to.

You bitch ass nigga. Nigga, fuck your jeans, nigga. Right. I would have been on his ass. I hope the wind don't blow. You going to fly away for real, nigga. Nah, he love Jordan, though. I would have gone with his fat jean wearing motherfucker.

But then what I'm saying, though, LeBron is the GOAT of today's era. Yeah. And I don't see nobody beating him no time soon. Was these niggas your favorite players or did y'all like low-key niggas growing up? You know, some niggas like, man, I fuck with Melo. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, Melo. I mean, man, I fuck with Mello. Oh, man. Oh, yeah, Mello. I mean, shit, one of my favorite players.

That's his man. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was one of my favorite players. Because I, you know, I played ball. So, like, that was, like, watching those. What's my man name that played for Indiana? I don't want to mention him. Brevin.

Brevin Knight. What was his name? For the Pacers? For the Pacers. Knight last night? Ain't no nigga with last night playing for us. Point gone.

Travis Bass. Travis Bass. My bad. I'm thinking it's my bad. Oh, that's a filthy nigga. Yeah, I fuck with Travis Bass. Travis Bass a wild boy. You know what I mean?

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And I won a championship but I had a saying when we first started the show i was like fuck a championship give me a max deal he rebutted with the 50 million ring or whatever how y'all feel about that i feel like it take away from the from the from the dog like see i'm a i'm a guy who like to see dog fight. That's why I feel like the older era was more such of a tougher era because they was dog fighting to win them championship. The people who Michael Jordan had done stopped like a Charles Barkley, they was some elite players.

They was some, everybody can kind of take a turn now to get a championship because niggas ain't dogs. Nah, I don't agree. They trying to go to this team to win a championship because niggas ain't dogs. Nah, I don't agree. They trying to go to this team to win the championship and go to that team and, alright, fuck it. Since I ain't gonna win the championship, give me the money and then I play barely

because I'm already paid. Nah, that ain't true. Hold on, this ain't well. Everybody be wanting to win. But nigga, it's a time situation. You know, like, you ain't gonna, like, nigga, you know your team. I ain't saying not going to get the money. Like, no offense.

I just feel like niggas don't want champions. Look at the Hawks right now. Trey Young and DeJounte, you look, you be like, we can win, but we probably ain't going to beat. They got to build a team around them. You can't just put two people over there. So do you not take your money? No, I ain't say take my money.

Eventually, the fight for the championship is going to rub off and that's all you're going to care about. Three, four, six years, you don't win no championship? Fuck it. I'm going to be good enough to get it back.

Yeah. Cool. They're like, damn, bro, you don't want to take it to the championship? I just need the money first then I'll go get the championship.

What you got to say, Paul? I hear Carlos. I'm taking the money. And I'm going to just buy me a ring for every fucking time I bring this conversation up. Because a lot of these niggas are selling their rings. The goal is to get there.

What if you're stuck in one of them fucked up situations where you're the best player on the worst team? No matter what the fuck you do, they're never going to win the championship. You don't have the shit you need to be a championship team. That's the most important part.

You want me to say Damian Lillard's not a dog? Damian Lillard's a dog. He's a dog. There's gonna be plenty of dogs that never win a championship. Charles Barkley, one of the best players that never won a championship. And you can't deny the shit he did. They need to bring me somebody. What's the reality?

He probably ain't going to win a championship if he stay in Portland. But I wouldn't say he won a dog or he ain't competing. So what you saying is take less money to go win a championship over here? I wouldn't do that. Versus him staying over here and be like, nah, because nigga, I built the franchise.

I run this gym. This is my gym. So you agreeing with us? No. I'm not taking a bag. I'm taking comfortability. This is my gym. What are you up for? I. I'm not taking the bag. I'm taking comfortability. This my gym. Yeah, well, you up for it.

I'm running shit. No, no. I'm the best player on this fucking team. Think of how many people want a championship that nobody gives a fuck about. Retweet. Listen. You said retweet. Think of how many people want a championship nobody gives a fuck about.

It's going to be like, you want a championship? We had niggas on my ass when I said that. That's cool. I didn't say niggas' names. But listen. But niggas on my ass when I said that. That's close. I don't say niggas' names. But listen. But niggas really don't fucking. Listen. Shout out to them.

Y'all was great players. But you don't even remember them niggas that won them championships. You can have great names. But until the champions say, shut the fuck up, you got to shut the fuck up. Not when I'm up 100 million. I don't care how much you up. You still champion. I played in the same league.

You just got lucky. You would never be a champion. And you probably wasn't even a reason why y'all won. You got all the money in the world. But you would never be a champion. You don't know what that feel like. You ain't never had confetti hit you in the face. You know what this nigga said.

That's why I'm hard. That was great. That's my perspective on it. Like, I just, I think that the numbers is funny in that argument. When a nigga say, I take 50 million over 100 million. Wait, fuck that ring. I got 50 million extra dollars. And DC full of shit talking about.

I didn't, no, no, no. Man, if you. You ain't supposed to go to another team and they offer it. You talking about a nigga who was a franchise of somewhere. I'm not leaving. I'm not staying here. You missing the point. I heard what you said.

Nigga said in general. Are you going to rather win? No, you have to set up the circumstance. This is about business. He told you. He didn't say that. He only gave me the deal. He never said what team I played for, my circumstance, because it's business.

It's not business. He never said what team I played for my circumstance because it's business I'm speaking in dang dang term is never gonna take 50 over that one on the man here Give me a hundred here and we'll build a team Fuck you You been the man for 50 We don't got shit else. Do what you've been doing or go find somebody. Because did he not take the trailblazers? How far did they go?

Nah, because it's finals. It's levels to reigns. We shouldn't have this much. Hold on. Chico, let Chico get his shit on. It's levels to reigns. Like, it's level to reigns. So if you take 50, you know what I'm saying?

If you take $50 million, if you take 50 million dollars to win a ring and you could have got 100 million dollars to play in a market where after your career you're going to be able to flourish in that market after you've leave the market but you went and took 50 million to win a championship in milwaukee nigga like it's like it's a difference in regards to the way that you win championships and the way that you get money in the NBA from my perspective I ain't never been before but Boston winner championship million dollars okay 250. Why? Hold up. He got 250. Chico, it is what you're about to say. Hold on, D.C.

What if that 250 ain't got shit to do with basketball? Out the gate. That's what I'm saying. This nigga talking about champagne showers and shit. At the end of the day, when y'all niggas retire, motherfucker gonna say, bro, I made 250. All right, but you check this out. I take 50 over 100 to win a ring that's going to be one of them rings that going to talk about in 20 years like i'm not going to are we doing are we dealing with

are we dealing with cap space i'm but i'm gonna tell you are we dealing with caps i already never turned down money for a ring like that's what the boy down it don't we just say that's Jim? I'm telling y'all. He got your ring. I would never turn down money for a ring. That's what the boy down to. It don't matter. At the end of the day, not to shout him out like that, but Antoine Walker, he won a ring. But when we talk about him, we talk about he lost his money or whatever. So I'm never going to ask him to win. Because he didn't win a ring in one of them places that-

He won it in Miami. We love Antoine. But on what team? With Shaq and- Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. To be able to take $50 million to get one of those rings, if I'm a nigga like Antoine Walker, I'd take the $50 million

because I done already made $192 hundred. But I'm not taking- He was saying- I'm not taking $50 million. Y'all doing circumstantial shit. We talking about 50 is all you get. Oh, no, nigga. Fuck that.

That ain't nah. Oh, okay. I'm thinking that's what the argument was. You mean to tell me I got my whole career, I can make 50 with a ring or 100 with no ring? What the fuck, nigga? No. That's because I'm the nigga that's going can make 50 with a ring or 100 with no ring. What the fuck, nigga? No, that's because I'm the nigga that's going to make money off my 50. Now, this what I'm saying. People don't make all that money because they blowing that shit anyway.

Now, we're going to take your situation. For example, you went to the Hawks. Yeah. They paid you good. Yeah. You went to NL. They paid you good. Yeah.

You went and got your ring with the Bucs. You settled for what you wanted. That was a great team. You know what it feel like to be a champion. You can have that conversation. If I had $50 to go somewhere else, I would have been like, here you go. You would have gave it up?

That's the fucking game. Don't get distracted by the prizes. I need to try and take care of his family. Like he said, he told a story like these motherfuckers will say, hey, tomorrow your ass out of here. You got a minimum window to make as much money as you can. So how about this? You got a minimum window,

right? But they only giving out these contracts maybe like three, four years. You're not getting no eight-year contracts. They like baseball. All right, I'm going to give you three-year 50 mil, right? You go over here and win this. I'm going to do this to set up for the 150 for the next four. See, we got to get there, though. Win.

We got to win. That's what I'm saying. If I took the 50 and we won it, and we win, now we still speaking hypothetically. Let's keep speaking. We won the champion. I got to get this up for you. I'm going to another team to get my money.

The year that they won the chip, they played the Nets, right? They had Kyrie and KD. If it wasn't for that little centimeter of KD hitting that shot, them niggas don't go to the finals. If Kyrie don't touch his ankle, they don't win no championship. That's what you saying? No. No, I'm serious.

Okay. No, they beat us by 51 again. They was going to probably win the chip. Okay. But you can't gauge that. Shit happens in the NBA. That's some injury shit. You can guarantee that money, though. And then the thing is, you win a ring

and that's a perfect example. I love KD. That's my favorite player in the NBA now. And that nigga went and run them rings and everybody is like, nigga, well, you went and cheated for two years to win the ring, nigga. You went over there and cheated. And it's like, what difference do it make if they gonna chastise the ring They can't chastise the hundred me

They can never that's the only money they Money but when you win that ring nigga, they gonna immediately Chastise the ring once you win the ring They were like well if it wasn't for this and if it wasn't for that and if it wasn't for this, but when I go to the bank, that $100 million is $100 million whether I got a ring. If I ain't got no fingers,

that bitch still a hundred million. You'll never have a green jacket. Give me Carmelo Anthony career on and off the court. You'll never have a green jacket. Fuck that green jacket. I'll go buy one. They sell rings and punch. And they sell them weak-ass green jackets, nigga. You can probably buy somebody rings.

And they jacket. That's because they ain't financially do what they supposed to do. That's what a lot of niggas do. So now we in the NBA. I just got more money for the money. I got $100 million and $50 million. Exactly. So right now we in the NBA because we in the highest. This is the right now we're in the NBA because we're in the highest.

This is the highest level. We're in the NBA just for the money now. Nah. The money going to come. Nah, niggas compete. They want to win, but I'm just saying. But that's where the compete come from. From the way you don't compete in life.

I'm trying to get a hundred million more than you. It ain't boxing, man. It ain't boxing. Honestly. It's not boxing, bro. It's not boxing. It's five or four other niggas you got to play with. If you ain't doing your job, but I'm doing mine.

I'm going to be 100 from a nigga that's on the outside looking in. I get mad when y'all need to get paid all that money and don't show the fuck up. I'm like, this fuck nigga getting 450,000 a game. Bitch had a nigga and he scored 12 points. I slapped his ass. Because you don't even know. He's like, this nigga making a million. Give him the ball.

Yeah. That's what the coach said. That's like, this nigga making a million. Give him the ball. Yeah. That's what the coach said. That's what I was just about to say. You have been around long enough to understand, nigga. A lot of niggas, bro, is out here really playing for individual contracts, nigga. If my team is sad, nigga, I'm trying to average 25 because I know me averaging 25 is going to guarantee me a max deal, bro. I'm trying to tell you.

So why would I get mad at the nigga who making more money than me? I ain't sure. We ain't getting mad at him. You know what I'm finna tell you. So why would I get mad at the niggas who making more money than me? Ain't sure. We ain't getting mad at you. You know what I'm finna do? Ball. Take my team to the chip to show you, hey, man. Renegotiate that contract. That ain't what they paying you for.

That ain't what they paying you for. You gotta understand. So you telling me my contract ain't. These motherfuckers making money to do a specific thing. They brought that nigga here to do one thing. Rebound. They don't give a fuck. If you get 30 points, bitch, we brought you to rebound.

So, I'm in the room with this nigga. Basically, you saying you a preppy. You a cameo. Same opportunity. So, all right, when you get the ball and you want to shoot, you be like, ah. No. When I went to the NBA, that was real life. Like, they be like, hey, get the ball to Joe Johnson, John Smith, Al Horford, Marvin Williams, run to the goal.

You know how many pick and rolls this nigga ran? This nigga was a dog in my fucking college. You was the last nigga that get to shoot. I was. Every nigga's a dog that's in the NBA at some point. At some point, every nigga. No, no, no. He had a lot of games.

He had to learn how to play under the whistle. You had 30. I had a game in Minnesota one time. I was killing. And I shot a mid-range jumper one time. I'll tell that story. I shot like a middie. And made it.

I made it to go into the half. And they was like, pulled me to the side. I was like, you don't want to be here no more, do you, huh? And I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, yeah. He like, if you shoot another mid-range jumper, you won't play no more for a Timberwolves. And he's like, what the fuck? He's like, we want threes and layups.

I'm like, damn, I might be out the loop in the league because I couldn't shoot right there. But that shit you got to go through. You don't know that. That's what I'm telling you. Everybody know. This nigga think the NBA is a fucking A&U team. They got motherfuckers they want doing specific shit.

But that's the point. When I'm in the A&U team, the whole club is in the NBA. So it's like, nigga, I'm going to be a don. But you can't do that when you play for an organization. Well, don't train the kids like that. My nigga was first option. You need to train your little pussy ass to only do rebounds. But my nigga was first.

That's how they're going to do it when they get to the NBA. He was the first option on the team, but he had to learn how to play a role once he got around other stars. Give Joe the motherfucker ball, nigga. We don't give a fuck what you did that way. But what if Joe had the bad game? It ain't up to Jeff. It was too bad.

Josh. We lost. It's too bad. We lost. Yeah, I was. You won to Josh. He lost on the totem pole. Josh, Marvin, Al, you got to get these motherfucking balls

get to the corner. Ain't no such thing as coming in being the key player. I came to see you play when I was in, I went to Winston-Salem State. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, so I came to see you ball at Wake Forest. Yeah, and I got to shoot every fucking time. Yeah, yeah. That's all you did. He was on NBA Jam out there. Yeah, that nigga was, I mean.

You go to the NBA, they like. They don't NBA this nigga after like this. Come on. Bo-Wick sweatsuit. Come on. Come on. Come on, Al. Come on to the free throw.

What you saying? Yeah, I know. Them niggas ain't flying to get disrespectful. You niggas ain't never did that shit in the NBA. You got to get some better friends. Yeah, it's fucked up. That's why I said. You niggas ain't never did that shit in the NBA. You can have a great game and they like, I mean, what the fuck is you doing? They'll really turn you. No, it's a good game, but they'll be like, okay, all right, good game.

So how do you become a great, how do you become one of them? You have to be handpicked? Get lucky. You got to be like in the right situation. Like once Joe and them left, it was my chance to flourish. Right. I keep using Trey Young because we like the Hawks. He came in, they like Trey. It's your team.

Here you go. Do your thing. That don't happen for everybody. Yeah, it's where you get drafted. It's a bunch of niggas you probably think about in college that was cold. That's why can you feel for where they ain't coming from. If I came into a situation, I know how this shit go. Why the fuck would I leave the Trailblazers and go over here and put myself in an uncomfortable situation

where I don't even like how the Lakers tried to make Rush look like he just, oh, Westbrook. Man, that nigga was a dog, man. That nigga was crazy, man. That's the situation. That's the situation. I know that, but I'm like, that's crazy when you make it out. You know Russell is dumb. It's like, I know the politics.

You're going to have to sit me down. And then you have in the NBA, you have situational situations that happen in the NBA where you have a nigga like Jeremy Lin. Talk about it. You know what I mean? That'll come off the bench and have a run of eight, nine games and get $50 million. Yeah. So you can have shit like that happen, but it's uncommon because the structure of the NBA game is entertainment.

It's entertainment at the end of the day. That shit is entertainment. We put all of the onus on oh man I don't put shit on them niggas got a ball and dog man I watch that shit the same way I watch wrestling nigga them niggas see that bitch ass nigga

they just gave this nigga a hundred million dollars look at that bitch not knowing this nigga literally fucked cause he gotta switch his whole game up and learn the system if Dame was in his position vice versa my nigga gonna do the same thing in portland and dame when when when when when westbrook was at was Wizards, he was the double, double, triple, double king. Was he not?

He was like that everywhere. He went to the Lakers, and they was like. Look who he playing with, though. Russ is third on the list. You got to switch your game up. You just proved my point. He playing with AD and LeBron, bro. It's different.

Yeah, you can't just be out there being. It's a total poll, bro. Yeah, it's different, man. See, that shit make me I'm sorry. I'm hard here. You going to the office and forcing the trade? Whoever. I'm one of them niggas, man. If you don't like me,

beat me up to get me out of here. He gonna say that shit right after the game. They gonna find him. $17 million. That game check gone. You playing for free now. You shouldn't have said that shit you said. And then when you hit I'm right there on the call.

Hey, how you doing? I was in here already. I asked you who was going to call you. I got another question for you. I always like to ask NBA players, who the best player you ever played with that we ain't never heard of? Best player that you probably never heard of?

Y'all probably heard of him, though, but Jordan Crawford. Jay Crawford. He played in the big three this past season, but. Jordan Crawford. He went to Xavier. He went to Xavier named Jordan Crawford. He called. So, in your opinion, what stops niggas like that from getting to the next level and succeed?

Opportunity. I mean, he had some good years. He had a year where, I think his rookie year, he had like 38 on LeBron. But, like, opportunity. That's really it. For real? Because you think about how you said, like, with Jeremy Lin, right? Jeremy Lin went crazy.

And that next year, then he went to Carmelo, like, what you going to do? And they was like, yeah, go ahead and sign back if you want to. Now Jeremy Lin in Houston. He didn't care about none of that shit you was just doing. Whoever that big dog, hey, that's cool. He crazy. He can go crazy somewhere else. If you don't feel what we got going on, it don't matter. If I'm paying my max player, his opinion matters.

Like Jordan Poole. Look at Jordan Poole. Come on. Jordan Poole. Yes. Y'all know how big Lin Sanity was in Come on. Jordan Poole. He had his 20th year? Yes. That man crossed the nation. Y'all know how big Lynn Sanity was in New York? Yeah, I remember. I remember that shit.

That shit was crazy. Fucking Lou Kane going crazy out there. They got their nigga right the fuck up out of there. How the nigga Lou Kane? Because motherfucking Melo like, all right, this T-Bow season is over with. It's done dotted. Dang. It's a pecking order, bro.

Real shit. That's why you be seeing niggas on the podcast mad as fuck about that. I don't know why, motherfucker. Man, I saw when I realized that shit was just business and the players was out there playing and just doing what the fuck they do, whether they succeed or fail, like you said. If the people who in charge of this shit have a bad day and say man get them the out of here it don't happen we in the gym you want to be you want to have a good product you want to go out there and show will so you can get paid never shoot that's a job really

because if you come late you get fine yeah open layup by kt yeah but you look at somebody like dennis robin i ain't saying that. Dennis Rodman. No Ben Simmons. Led the NBA in rebounds for like eight years straight. And there's all that nigga had, 45 rebounds, zero points. That was his role? Don't you shoot shit. I didn't even go out there and be a dog. He was cool with that.

But he was the best at that shit. He was the best at that. That's a lot of people, though. Do that. Be good. That's what I'm saying. That's Drexler. I had to find a way for me to be great.

Be good at your role. Yeah. You got to be great. What is that? Listening? Yeah, man. Pat Davids is a perfect example. That's why That's what I'm saying. I have to find a way for me to be great. Be good at your role. Yeah. You got to be great. What is that? Listening? Pat Bantz is a perfect example. That's why he's still in the league, bro. He mastered his role.

That nigga used to average 30 in high school. You know the best way to compare it? It's like wilding out, bro. It's just like wilding out. Oh. When we show up on wilding out, like, it's just like that. I mean, I don't get told. I don't get told.

I'm talking about the role. They take me like, hey, DJ, I'm like, I mean I don't get told I don't get told I'm talking about the road They be like Hey DJ I'm like That food Exactly That's what I'm saying Exactly When we show

When certain motherfuckers show up They don't even talk to us They be like Alright The rest of you niggas Sit around in a circle And sing Nigga

You know what I mean So it's You going to be a shit You going to be a shit Like it's just that I would assume That that's the type of environment. You got motherfuckers that can show up and do what they want to do because you know that when the lights come on and when they throw that ball up in their head, niggas know what

you're going to do. Niggas know what you're going to do. How do I get that check, that $100 million? You got to be cold. Not by a great passer. No, you got to be cold. Yeah, you can be, nigga. Look at Mike Collins. So you just want me to You can be, nigga. Look at Mike Conley.

So you just want me to... Mike averaging 11, nigga, and up, nigga, 140. Especially if you don't shoot, you're going to do something. They don't want you to shoot. They don't put the motherfuckers out there they want to shoot. Your job is to get them to the ball. Run the show, nigga. That's all you got to do.

Whether we win by 100 or we lose by 100. If you do the shit that they tell you to do, you can elevate. It's opportunity. It's an opportunity for you. It's an opportunity for you. In motherfucking Houston right now,

you can go down to Houston right now and play all the shooting gods you want to play and go 22 and 61. Nigga, that's going to be your record. Or go to the Big 3. Call Cuba. And lace up with the Big 3 if you can't follow these orders that we got out here.

You can go to Europe. I'm grabbing these young niggas too. We got Jerry Green coming too. Where you can't eat nothing over there. You're going to shit the whole time. Yeah, go to Call of Duty if you want to. For sure. No bullshit, Carlos.

All the dogs we have on the show who played over season 10, they're doing a bid. Like, shit. The Wi-Fi goes up. We ain't going to have it for a week. Ain't no English TV. Fuck that shit.

He became a god over there. He was in China. Man, man, the boy went over there and we trained. But the nigga, you go three, three times. Literally, though. He went to China and became a god. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when he was on Vaseline and shit. That nigga was working out to Michael Jackson What about the nigga that's playing in Puerto Rico, nigga? What about it?

He might be over there. Not even in the international league. He on the beat. I looked him contracts up. I looked him contracts up. Imagine a nigga that's playing in jail, nigga. I'm talking about there's some niggas that's in motherfucking the state penitentiary that could have went live.

But you'll never see them, you shit. No, they couldn't. I knew it was business, but I ain't know it was business like that. Nah, it's always business. Like, I understand. OK, the main shooter who be paying, the nigga ain't shooting shit. We got to score. Nah, but you shoot his shots,

your ass is on the bench. So how do we know if it's his shots? He like, hey! He like, goddamn. Nah, look at it like wild enough. Let's say you, Greg, go out and do some shit, right? And just a nigga just run out and be like, move, DC, I got it.

What's that like? He better be good. He ain't gonna help you imagine somebody else about to get paid in your turn you're a free agent and shit so niggas was doing that on Wild N Out? Niggas go for what they know. Everybody get a shot. It's really like camera time. Go ahead. I'm like, go ahead.

Go ahead. But the thing about it is, if you give a nigga that shot and he got that type of ambition but don't got the talent to go with it, it's only going to be so many times you let this nigga try and shoot a brick, nigga. He be like, hey, don't shoot that shit no more, my nigga. You just never grabbed the mic? That's what the Dream did to me. What's up, bro?

For real? Yeah, the Dream. Shout out to the Dream. He used to sit courtside at all the games. Who, Dream? I can't believe you want. Nah, the motherfucking singer. He was going crazy on you.

Nigga, you talking about the Dream. Don't you ever let a nigga that sing help you, bro. No, bro. Please let him tell this story. Please, I want to hear it. I'm like, my second year. He like, team, keep working, baby. Keep working.

I'm like, yeah. Jamal Crawford was on my team. I faked the ball to Jamal, shot that motherfucker. He said, hey, nigga, don't you ever do that shit. Nigga, sit your ass down. Sit your fat ass down. Sit your fat ass down. Sit your fat ass down. He was like, fuck you.

That nigga ain't talked to me since that day, bro. No. I see you when I came back to the house. What's up, boy? That nigga still like fucking me. Damn, man. Damn, man.

Alright, man. It's been too much fucking fun. We got to get the fuck up out of here because I got to get to work. I'm going to get a championship. You're going to get your chips at night games. It's going to be the only championship better than that, motherfucker. Man, we appreciate y'all, man. I got to ask before I go. Go crazy. Go crazy.

NBA question. You know what I mean? Y'all, you know, you make so much money in the league. You know what I mean? Just understand the bread. What's the most money you everall, you know, you make so much money in the league. You know what I mean? Just understand the bread. What's the most money you ever blew, nigga, that you like? Nick, what the fuck did I just do? Blew?

Tripping. Like, tripping, tripping. Like, the one where you look back on now and be like, man, I was tripping. I'm pretty cheap, so I'd probably be like, I went to the club one time and blew like $25,000. On what? What you mean pretty cheap? Nigga, you stupid. I was about to say, nigga, on what? That was just a...

You was with your team. Oh, no. You trying to keep up with the broads. What club? I went to 1-0 in New York. 25. I'm disappointed. That ain't even no strip club.

I'm disappointed. That story wasn't shit You rich as fuck And you going to tell me About the time you spent $25,000 That's a lot of money To be blowing nigga Get the fuck out of here

I blew that last weekend Fucking on You tripping You tripping too nigga What's wrong with you You tripping You blew 25 on what That's why it's all on you

Motherfucker Oh Oh Ain't we about to be done? And on that note, we're going to get up out of here. Appreciate 85 South, man. Love, man. Love Bob to the y'all boys, man.

Appreciate y'all, man. Thank y'all for having us, man. Absolutely, man. Keep teaching the ball. We'll be back next week. Shout out to the Patriot Gang. What gang you was throwing up? I saw them too.

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