Club 520 Podcast - 520 THROWBACK: Grant Williams on being TEAMMATES w/ Jeff Teague, GUARDING Joel Embiid & Steph Curry, Luka vs. Tatum

Episode Date: June 20, 2026

Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Grant Williams of the Charlotte Hornets. Grant talks about becoming teammates with Jeff on the Boston Celtics, playing for the Dallas Mavericks, and settling the debate between Luka Doncic and Jayson Tatum. Grant talks about LaMelo Ball getting snubbed from this year’s All-Star Game, and talks about guarding Joel Embiid in the playoffs, as well as Steph Curry in the NBA Finals.All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How you were, nasty? Cool and nasty. What's happening, baby? It's all, man. Listen, man. You know, we honorary Charlotte Hornets at heart, gee. I don't know if you know, man. I'm sure.

It's a lot of love. Yeah, I know. We locked in justice. some crazy things. We got to get to that. Yes, sir. He's a lot of great. Since we here and I, we all

said jet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, respect. You were there for the same. Yeah, he was there. You were in Kenny Smith. But we all always say, man, get rid of all you niggas. See, I look at grass.

I say, you know what? Grinnis, he's a blend. He's light enough to stay on the town. I just always say, get rid of all the dark-skinned dicks of them. Man, God. Yeah, league, man. I love the hornets.

Me and DJ support the hornets through and through. I do too, man. Now that they not feel the love right now. No, there ain't no love. Still, to my right, my dog, young nacho, young T, how are you what? I'm hype, man. Got my young boy in here. You know, the biggest hornist fan, Jeff T.

Oh, I'm excited to have my dog on the pie. Listen, man, straw all the horn is in the building, man. Also, underwriting SEC career. We're going to talk about that for show, man. Legend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what the numbers came in. I was saying nowadays, you know, yeah. Got to figure it out. Claim, claim, claim. No, for sure, man. Listen, man, Charlotte, what is for it, man? Grant Williams in the building, big dog. Appreciate you sliding on this, man.

Appreciate you having. Like you said, the origin story, before we get to your origins, man, let's talk about how y'all linked up for the first time, man. I'll let him go first and not get to him. I'll go first. The one thing I remember the most is that he's the most probably my funniest, if not second funniest teammate I've ever played with. Because we played on a team where it was a year that I think we were up and down that

year, like in the beginning of the season. COVID, like, it was a lot going on. There was no such thing as like, man, there was no such thing as anything going on. Open fans, the stands. Like, all we could do is freaking kicking at K walks and just bobbed. Shout to K. K. Shout to K. And that's how you noticed, sell things back then.

It was an interesting. We had, me and Jett, I always think about this story. One of the best stories I got is that I remember I was both going to Brad and be like, hey, man, just don't play us. It was like, it was me, him, shimmy, and Peyton Pritchard. Yeah. And Brad was just like Kimba just came back and Brad was trying to figure out like what lineups. And, you know, Brad wasn't the type person to like, like, ever confront nobody.

You know, kind of like let it happen, you know, let some coach just handled. So like, it got to a point where we were just every single thing we do, We have to look over our shoulder. We're like, all right, just choose one. Let's hope. Like, the one person go and see what happens. And I remember me and Jet were just like, yo, just let choose them. I'm confused because, bro, you're so young.

Like, he's the old head with no knees. We're trying to get acclimated into the league, bro. Don't sacrifice your plans off of this thing. The thing is, what happened was, like, I had just played that last year. And we went to the playoffs, coming finals, all the stuff, in the bubble. So I came in, I made on some BS. Like I was tripping that year coming to preseason. Kind of felt like I had established myself.

So then I kind of had to earn it back. So I was like, let me just hoop and stay ready. Like let me show y'all what I got. All right. You know, go back and forth. I was crazy back then too. So I was wilding. Chris and coaches out.

Yeah, everybody was wilder. It was a bad year. It was a bad year. So like, I was just telling him. I was like, yo, like just choose. Like, Shimmy play. Because Shimmy looking over his shoulder, every shot he missed versus me.

And like at the time, they didn't tell me this until after, but they were like, they were trying to play Shimi so they could trade them. Oh, that's my B. They just don't, they don't communicate that type of stuff. Like, the thing came from us. We were like, yo, like, it's killing us all. And then you had Jabari on the bench talking. He was like, hey, just buy it your time, young fellow.

Bide your time. Shout to Jabari, baby. It was crazy. It was crazy. Man, hell of order story. Man, let's get to yours, though, man. Obviously, from Texas, Moodoo, Carolina. Oh, excuse me, North Carolina.

What's a like playing for the Hornets, man? and then growing up as a Carolina kid. It's great because I grew up, like, I'm from Charlotte, too. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's, like, I grew up watching Kay Walk on the Bobcats, DJ Augustine and Raymond. Cheryl Anderson. Harold Anderson.

Cory McGettie. Roy's jersey. Nasty, word. Nards. Seven, seven wins. So, like, I got friends, like, we remember bring back the buzz back in, what was it, 2016 when Hornets even came back. Yeah.

Like, it's cool to be on the roster and, like, impact winning to a point where, like, you got a chance to, one, make the playoffs. to be on a team that like, Sean ain't never seen the type of success that we've had yet. Like we, I think other than 1998, and that's before anyone of us, when I was born. So, damn.

Yeah, make y'all niggas feel old. But facts. So then, so then. So next week. No, we know, nine years. We got nine, nine winning, non-game winistry. Like, we win in the most games on the road.

So every friend that I know growing up And cities like, yo, they're hype. You got more fans in the arena than I think I've seen growing up. So this is a place to be around right now. It's a gold mine waiting to be struck. I always said in Charlotte. So it said that two years ago, even when I was talking crap to Dee White, tried to tell him that he was making a playoffs two years ago.

I just say it didn't happen. Yeah. But now we got an actual chance. Yeah, man, you're doing really good. Bro don't really believe in y'all. But me and DJ always. I didn't think I don't believe. I don't believe.

I don't think. I don't believe. How do you feel about like LaMello not making an all-star? row. I'm a little sick just because like his stats might not show it just because you know, it's in the fit like, I feel like he's not making like all the shots right now to the point where like his stats are like 40 from

three, something like that. But like our offense runs through and with him. Like we see our on off numbers of him on the court. He impacts our winning to a level that, you know, it's hard to, hard to compare anyone across the league like in terms of playmaking. Like he's a guy that sets up our entire roster like Brandon. I think it's

our leading score right now for a reason. Kahn's able to get the shots he's able to because, like, Mello creates that gravity, getting downhill, kicking out the shooters. And we just play fast, man. Like, shoot a lot of threes. And Mello honestly deserve, I think that All-Star nod, because they put, it's just the format this year, man. The U.S. world, like, they couldn't do it. I love that.

Boy, you might get a job when you do, play. Yeah, Lerner. There was nobody more upset than being in. I was so shitty, bro. Especially with how we were playing towards the All-Star break. Like, I know we didn't start great. Like, we were, well, 4-14, but we were injured. Like, there's a lot of things going on.

Yeah. Like, once we got a healthy roster, you start seeing the success of our team. And, like, I was so well put together, honestly, by JP. Did a great time. Yeah, my God. A job of, you know, building a group around one another. So I think Depp had a great job of, like, making that All-Star 9. I think next year, we might have two, two, maybe three all-stars,

been on how we start the season. Especially with Khan, he came on, like, gangbusters, bro. He's nice. Yeah, Jeff Love, I think. I think he's rookie of a year. It's my vote. I think it's going to end up being a co-worker of the year. I hope so.

He deserves. It's going to be a great-head and Grant Hill type. Yeah, they think it's going to be the wrong. I think they go to the Ron. Mello, though. You think he's going to go to that, bro. Cooper going to win.

No way. Like, he's, bro, he is damn near a 50, 40-90 season. Crazy. Bro, one of the efficient. Most efficient rookie season, I think, NBA history. You already broke the single-season rookie record. Yeah, he's crazy. Fasted to 200-3.

Yeah. Or, sorry, maybe he hasn't broken if he's about to break it. Yeah. And then Fastest rookie to 203, fast as a player to 203s. It's just, it's, and Washington play basketball,

like, there's not many guys that you play with you're like, yo, every shot you feel is going in. Like, he's on that level already as a three-year-old kid.

And it's funny because that draft last year, they questioned the VJ pick. They kind of was just like, kind, maybe a little bit hot, but both of them players have showed it.

Nah, they're ready to hoop for sure. And you're super high on kind. Yeah, that's one of my favorite players in the league. Man, he's so efficient.

Yeah. I had that draft day thing when he had his workout. You know, remember the movie where it's like Vonte Mac, no matter what? Yeah. To our assistant GM right during his workout. Vontay Mac, no matter what,

because I felt like it was either between him or VJ at that pick. Yeah. We're a Philly didn't pick. Maybe he was one or the other. Man, I picked a good pick. Hey, that was a good one. No, be here. Lemella, my top of all the time already.

We are at being. Yeah, I love them. For sure. Basketball needs a Melo ball, bro. Yeah. Any players like that. Like, is it creative, creative mind? Yeah.

Play fast, loose, pause. He just has a good feel for the game. Like there's not many people like that see ahead like he does. So he does a good job playing teammates in positions to be successful. And I think he honestly compliments every single person on our roster. Hmm. That is crazy. Oh, yeah, B-Han got the ammunition now.

Yeah, you got it off. I'll be texting you, Greg. I know I got a little morning show over there. Yeah. He's talking about it. Got to talk about a hell of a breakdown. No, for sure. But back to great, man.

Listen, like you said, Carolina. on the, y'all, hey, you team, boy. That team CB3 squad, J-O? Yeah, my dog, Jay-O. Had to Squitty. Here, Harry Giles, hey, but we talked about him early in the morning, so, I know, injuries kind of changed this. You see Harry G.

You saw Harry Gals in high school, Harry G. One of the ones, bro. HG was the best player in our class for a reason. He was over J.T. He was with Juanza. He was over, shit. Josh Jackson was consensus, number one. But, like, H.G, like, if he had his knee surgeries,

like, it's hard to imagine he wouldn't be a Chris Weber type of player. Like, he was. special. Yeah. Play with and then also like just to watch. I played against him because he played at Wesleyan back in high school. So I was my like I played against him and Bam. Those were my,

my matches. Damn. In high school. So like playing those guys. Did you give him work? Heck yeah. I beat Bam to the state championship. Be it,

blew him out by 20. I always joke with Bam. This is where it messed me up my rookie year. I said, man, you haven't beat me much. I beat him in Tennessee. Beat him at, beat him in high school.

Gray's always called me Bam's kryptonite. Then that rookie year, play him in the bubble. I think, I think I had a record where I was like two or three games ahead of them and turned the record after they beat us in the bubble for the, before it goes to the finals, he said,

I think I'm up now, nigga. That's crazy. Shout to Ben, get your get back. Oh, God. Get back.

And saying shit nowadays, too. Me beat me in the last finals run too. Damn. Yeah, we're going to talk about that, man. But now, what was that like, though? Did you face any of the crazy teams?

Because I had a squad in A. You had a crazy. They had a crazy. Yeah, what was your role on that team? Oh, my gosh. Oh. Role-wise, I was like, honestly, I don't think I don't know if I started on that team. I think I was behind Q, like sometimes because we had, that team was loaded.

Yeah, sure. Alterie Gilbert, who was the top five-star point guard in time. He just had shoulder surgery, so he was hurt. He was from the A. So he was nice. We had Josh Akogi, got him. J-O. Darno Rodgers, the five-foot three, five-and-four point guard. Yeah, I remember him.

He got buckets, though, yeah. He got buckets. He's the reason why they beat Virginia. Yeah. So, so then next year. HG, myself, Q, and, shit, Peace Jam stories. We were playing Georgia Stars. We only had one loss that entire YWIBL season.

So, like, we were one of the most accomplished EWIBL teams, whatever else there was. We lost Georgia Stars by one. They at Udoca, Wendell Carter, Bruce Brown, Jared Harper, like a bunch of names. Peace Jam happens. We go, we don't lose a game. We beat Mokane with Jonathan Isaac. We beat each one, each one of Johnson Isaac, Mokam of Trey and Michael Porter. Yeah.

Then we get to that semifinal. We play JT and the Eagles, St. Louis. That was back before Brad Bill Elite. And we were blowing him out. We were about like 20. Like, damn near. Going to the third, fourth quarter, all of a sudden, Auturie gets cramps.

And he's dribbling the ball up the court. Can't be past half court, fell over, like type cramps. Like, he was just turned it. We turned it over, I think, six straight times. They get back into the game. Damn. I couldn't do. What the fuck was coaching, though?

John. John. didn't want to take him out because I think, I don't know why Darnell didn't play. But, like, it was one of those games where he was like, we're going to leave him out there. He, like, give him some pickle juice, whatever else, like, try and let him hook because we were up by so much.

Well, he should have did Darren Peterson. Yeah, right. He found in a row. It's crazy. Yeah. That's a comedian. Yeah. I was John.

I know. He's a five-star recruit. He's a good. H.G was in foul trouble that game, too. I remember because I was, I think I was either our first or second lead to score in that game. And, um, what's it called?

Going down, turn it over, turn over, turn over, turn over. They get back into the game. JT, hooping, of course. And we get to the end of the game. I score. They come back, score,

come down, HG gets the ball. His shoots, he told him, don't shoot it until we have our last shot because we want to win the game. HG goes too soon, hits the hook,

right-hand hook, or I think left-hand, wherever it's hook, what do you think, when you're about to win the game. They call a timeout. I get sub-down. out. They put Ian Boyd in. We're all on the bench, elbow to elbow. Like, we're about to win this

game up to go to go to the final to play Georgia Stars again. All of a sudden, the inbound the ball, we took JT away. I don't forget to do his name, Jordan Gilbert, Jordan something. Drew was a full court, double clutch at the buzzer. Heave game. Damn, right. That's story. You know, heartbreak. They ended up freaking losing by 30 to Georgia Starz. After that, we were so checked out the rest of the season with the Vegas and we were just having a good time. Oh, you're there for the vibes. That's 17 years old.

Hey, that ain't bad. Not a bad city to have some foot in. Not a bad city. All right, man, conversation good. We got some drinks flowing Barbie at work today, man. Barbie. Barbie. Work all the time.

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Corner three. All right, man, obviously killed in high school. Went to Tennessee. Was there some other schools that could have got you? Tennessee was the best school I had. I was a three-star. Like, I was thinking I was number 200 and something class. Yeah.

It was bad. I was chunky, bro. I was a, you know. You was undersized big. I was going to say undersized big, tweener. So, like, this is right around when Draymo was doing his thing. But, like, people are always like, how do you beat these guys? I was being BAM.

I was being like, Harry, like, all these guys that were like brinked higher than me. But they're like, this dude can't jump. Like, not really a great shooter. You know, he's a post player. So I remember even Davidson, like I remember calling Coach McKillop. He said, I'm never going to give you a scholarship offer. I said, why? Damn.

He said, because you don't work hard enough. Damn. That was me as a sophomore. I was like, I can't get off about Davidson. Like, I had my best offer from was in New Charlotte. Like, I had. Oh, well, that. Yeah, for sure.

Later on, I'll give him credit. Later on, when I went to Tennessee, we play him. He's like, the reason why I said that to you is because I needed you to work harder and, like, I believed in you. And we didn't have the resources to support you or something like that. But, like, I think he was still just. Yeah, yeah. Did that motivate you though? For sure.

He said that, yeah. Motivated to help me because, you know, I grew up in a family that was of Hoopers, quote unquote, like my cousin, Slim Stardmeyer, who was nice at Zona. Oh. That's what Piafo? Yeah, his first guy. Oh. Hey, forgot.

He got a real fucking bucket. He the best shooter in college, damn near his. I remember what that. He's old college who's all the time. He's a lot of time. He shot better than JJ Reddick that year and they ain't going to get me with love. That nigga had a burner. Yeah.

Big Jersey, big short one. Yeah. I did those. You did a workout with him? Yeah. And he only do perfects? Perfect. You'll be in a gym for two hours.

Okay, explain that for the people who are too tapped in. If it hit the room or if it don't switch every time, he don't count it. I would be That person that As a young kid You throw him the ball You can't jam him up Yeah

As a shooter Like he was like Throw it outside my body Like it was like His workouts back in the day I'd be amazed by him He was wrong We did a workout with him

Bro He was playing for the Hawks Well he used to And he was back in the gym And he was like You gonna do the workout with us I'm like yeah We started the workout

He's like don't count Shot another one Don't count That shit count for me Then he kept saying, no, we only kind of have been switched. Bro, he was in the gym for two hours, bro. I was like, I'm out. Damn, bro.

Damn. That's fat. But he was hitting every shot. He was like, don't kill. I'm like, yeah, that's crazy. So slim, even Damon. So it was like, that's my other cousin. And it's like those guys, like, my pop played in Venezuela, but, like, tried to play

for the Houston bullets and those guys back in the day. So, like, just group in that family. So, like, everybody used to always try and be like, you got to score. You have to this. But I always was like, all right, like, I'm more of a passer. You know, like you can solve the game differently. So I had offers from like Yale, like Yale, Princeton, all the I-Bee. You always been a smart more.

Yeah. So that ain't bad. It really came down to those. And then Richmond was the only other one. Okay. And I decided on Tennessee because I met our strength to coach, Gary Maidenwald. He was like, I can change your body composition, make you like give you the best chance to make in the league. And I was like, all right, like, that was my main focus.

And then I sold my mom's because my mom worked for NASA. She, of course, black shit in. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Black man wanted me to go to Ivy Leeds because she knows how the world of world works. Yeah. And so I'm telling her, I was like, I'm going to Tennessee.

She didn't talk to like a month and a half, two months. But then I told her, I said, I'm a graduate in three years, which, then I'm a, if I go back for my fourth year, I'll get my master's. Like, I had this plan that I set out and I told her, I said, but also I'm going to go for the NBA. Yeah. But I said when three years got my degree, yeah, got freaking, played a year twice. Me a half a year. Yeah. Come on, SEC.

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You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. Come on. Like, what made you not lead a first year? Because you wanted to graduate? So, no, first year, I wasn't, so I was only freshman team because Malik Monk, I'd, think one freshman of the year. Coach Barnes was like, hey, like, Coach Barnes, if you know Coach Barnes, he kind of wants his guys to come back. And also, like, he, if he thinks you should go,

he'll try and tell you to go. So he said, like, the reason why you ain't with freshman year, because he didn't work hard enough. So it was the same thing. Like, you didn't work hard enough. Went back that second year. And I was like, all right, like, my goal is to get player of the year. And also, like, Coach Barnes, like, that's you should be, you should strive for player of the year. You should strive to be the best player in this conference. So that whole year, though, I played with an injury. So that whole year, I had, like, a pureformist, like, sciatic nerve thing that I was dealing with that shot down my leg. So

played that whole season, even after the year was over, was dealing with it. Like that numbness in my leg, couldn't like walk sometimes. Like there was a couple games that season, like remember the LSU game, I get fouled in the first half. I'd landed on my back. Couldn't feel my leg. And got subbed out, worked

on it for a full half, came back in the second half and played. So then after that season, I was like, damn, I probably should go. But if I go test a draft process right now, I'm looking crazy. Like you look. Like, you look damaged goods and then now you have reputation. So I just stayed at school. And then went back for that third year and then came out that third,

even though Coach Barnes wanted me to come back for the fourth. Wow, he was wow. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I was really, I can't. What was like playing for a legendary coach like that? I know there's a lot of expectation from, especially in the college world. Yeah. Barnes was cool, though? Barnes is crazy.

But he's one of the, like, it's cool for sure. If you has any player to play for Barnes, like, especially like PJ, KD, any of those guys, they'll tell you, like, I got saved Barnes. like Barnes was like not cursing like he I got like I was taking my biggest accomplishment for Barnes making him curse twice at me but like he was completely different like he was crazy like he made me like I remember there's multiple times I'm crying tears workouts like running he makes you middle of a practice go versatile climber three times come back and practice every time you mess up go back to the

versatile climber no I'm straight run to 17 oh another 17 like 85 and 2 to 17 like he thought it was a game so like it was to a point where like you had to be so mentally tough for him playing for him. If not, you had to go. I ain't a lot of bursa climbing two times. I'm in the portal coach. Yeah, after that second year, bro. That's what it was.

Think about it. After my freshman year, we didn't make the, we didn't make the postseason. He had us do a basketball all spring. Dang. We would wake up, come down the hill, and we'd run. Was it like that when you went to college? Like, when you feel first summer with him? No.

It was sad. It was bad. Like, you know, like I was overweight. When I had to get your buddy right. Yeah, I was in fat camp. Like legit fat camp. Like legit fat camp. So we had to work out that morning, 6 a.m.

Come in, do a whole workout. Then go class, come back for practice, then do a workout post practice until I got in a certain weight. I lost 30 pounds in my first month and a half of being there. How much was when you went to school? Like two. Like I'm not going to body. I was like 280.

Damn. Two six. And I lost weight. So like, I even remember coming in. I was like, yeah, I'm great. Gee, I'm probably 13% body fat. Like I feel great. All of a sudden, I get there, it's like,

nah, you're 17% body fat dog. You're about $2.55. I ended up getting the $2.25 by the end of that summer. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. That's a hell of a life to live, boy. What I was saying? That's a hell of a life to live, boy.

Yeah, it's not fun. Y'all be saying traumatic as shit. They did. Listen, this is all stuff that I can talk about now because it's overweb. But, like, even like, we got to a point. We had 5 a.m. and we had one dude breakout in the hives during the workout, and then we had to cancel it. So it got rid of 5 a.m.

and that was Quay Parker. So he passed out. We had to wake him up to continue this workout. Like it was crazy. Then lockdown happens because 5 a.m.'s going to wait. Lockdown was every Saturday

if you got late to class or whatever else it was, you're in trouble. 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. You had to be in the gym. No devices. Damn. So you was there working out.

You had five workouts. You really was just there reading. Did you say the time rate? Yeah. You say 6.8. 10 p.m. 10 p.m. Come out.

on a Saturday. Portal. He can't do that no more. That is illegal. Somebody snitch. Somebody snitch. Somebody snitch. That guy went away and we backed 5 a.m.

It was some wild times, but I always tell these guys that 10. It wasn't why. You got different, huh? So I want to quit this one. He got to get working for. He got to get working for. Boy had been hot. That's a little bit.

No devices. No phone, no iPad, no laptop. No. I hate it here. But I'm snitched. Not much working out, can the motherfucker do, bro. Why he's not? He's probably going to say what he was playing.

Yeah, Admiral Schofield. Admiral Schofield, like... Abrams go to be a big... That was real boo-kand. Back of my Saturday up like that. Yeah, ain't no such thing as going out that night. Oh, no. Oh, yeah.

He was. You were still after doing that? Oh, yeah. It was... I probably had the energy after that. Fourth time doing that, I'd probably be ready for that. I've been in job all day. I'm ready.

We had so many times for guys, be in the lockout together, lockdown together. So we'd be like eight dudes in lockdown. Just vibing. We were locked up. We're gonna be. Yeah, I'll probably be ready to hang something. That's the legal.

Come on. We hit this. Pink, me, niggins. That shit's going. Fry. Obviously, man, had a great career in Tennessee. Now it's time for the draft. What was that process like for you, man?

Making that decision, the family, just that summer. Yeah, so went to the draft, said I was declaring. called Coach Barnes from Chicago after a combine. I was like, yeah, I'm not coming back. Had like a decent conversation and came down to the workouts. My whole thing about the workouts was I want to chase the guys who were projected above me. So I was like, you know what?

Like Brandon Clark, like PJ Washington, like all these guys, these names, they're considered like, people are like, this guy's old. This guy's. Meanwhile, I'm the same age as all these guys because I was young. Like, I remember Rick Carlisle during when I meeting with Dallas, they were like, how's it feel being one of older players in the class? I said, actually, I'm, like, younger than every junior and sophomore and probably close to younger than most freshmen. He cursed everybody all, you know, Carlisle is.

He went crazy. But even the draft process, I was doing the workout, chasing those guys around. I'm thinking like, yo, I'm killing. So I'm a definitely go top 15, top 20. Meanwhile, I just realized I brought everybody's value down with me. Like, everybody came down to my area. Brandon Clark was supposed to be top 80 and 8. Yeah.

Right in front of me. Damn. During that process, I was like, there's only one chance that I can go in the top, like, 20, and that would be Orlando at 16. And they were like, we have between you, Nikiel, who went next, and then a mystery guy. That mystery guy, and to be in Chumel O'Keeke,

who just came off to ACL that year. It was nice, at least in college. I'm all right, right? Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, okay, I'm not going to Brooklyn, one of my worst workouts that I've had in my life. Then I was like, okay, San Antonio,

but they won't draft me at 20. If they draft me, it'll be a 29. So then Luca went Boston. I knew they were trading 20. So I was like, I'm not going there. And then 21, it was between either OKC, Memphis, like they had to trade. OK, C, I would have went. But then they traded the pick to Memphis.

They took Brandon Clark. So I was like, all right, cool. So like, I'm not going to Boston because I'm, you know the Boston story about my workout, right? No, no, Ellis. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Boston workout.

So I'm over here, like, of course, smart kid. I'm in the workout, Air Pascal, me, Brandon Clark. and we're over here. Jay Laranega is the coach. Jay. Yeah, Tony Dobbins was a video coordinator at the time. Oh,

okay. So Tony's leading the workout. We get to this four and four, and five and five session. Tony's like at the clipboard, he's like, yeah, like thinking about the play to draw up. And he drew up to play

and he had Brandon Clark in the corner and me on a dunker. I was like, yo, like I kind of touched the clipboard. I was like, you sure you want me in the dunker? Like,

you rather have the guy with the lob thread of dunker and me in the corner because I could shoot it. He was like, you're right, you're right. So I took the clipboard, erased it and then drew up. Oh, he wow. So then boom, that happens.

Play work. I'm feeling good. You know, I'm confident. Next thing happens where the, like, play happens. They're like, all right, cool. Like, they're switching everything now. Like, we need to play. Tony's kind of holding the clipboard.

He's thinking about the play. I'm like, I got it. Grab the clipboard from him. He's wild. Grab the clipboard from him, like, draw and play. Thing is going to be like, this is what we going to do. It ain't work. So then after that, I'm like,

all right, cool. I sprained my ankle during the workout. Workout happens, three minute run at the end. As Boston does, Danny does. And they're like, you don't have to run. You don't have to run. I'm like, that I'm running. Ended up running it. Got in first. Me and Casey Alkpala got him first. And I think that's the only reason I got drafted there because Jay afterwards, he always, I always joked that he cursed me out. He didn't curse me out. But he pulled me aside. It was like, we don't do that here. You don't take the clipboard out of a coach's hand.

Because I heard that years prior, Kyrie had done that to Brad. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah. Can't be doing that. Especially Jay. Yeah. What's crazy.

This was back in the one. I play with Tennessee because it was Barnes, because Barnes was very like, like, he, I definitely did that a lot. I'm trying. I did a couple of times with Barnes. And, like, it was, like, calm me. Like, if you got an idea, like, their job was doing. So then I did it. And, yes, it didn't work.

A magic on a job interview. And you imagine, hey, let me make your job interview. I mean, on that. So then next to you know, I'm like, I'm not going to Boston. I get a text saying, congratulations, congratulations. I'm like, what did they congratulate me for?

So I text my age. I'm like, yeah, what's going on? I just got three congratulations texts. He's like, I don't know. I'm like, all right. So I call him like, yo, what's going on? He's like, I don't know, let me call around.

Actually, hold up one sec. He's like, don't take my word for it, but you might be going to Boston at 22, get your phone out just in case. So I make my phone out. I'm at my boy's house, best friend's house because I didn't get a draft invite to the green room. And I was like, all right, cool.

Sit there. Boston gets drafted. Everybody goes crazy around me. I think it was, Danny was the first one to call me and then Brad. And then so I was like going to Boston, which was, I thought I was going to Utah next pick.

That was my thought. It was like, I thought I was going to Utah 23. And they traded the pick. Oh, thank God. Yeah. That was no,

that was when Utah was when they had Donovan Mitchell. They had Rudy. They had. You went to the right team. Yeah. I went to the right then. Yeah. You were solid your rookie year in Boston.

And I had a lot of opportunity to play because, like, that year in Boston, it was me, shimmy is the really force. And then Gordon Hayward, because he was hurt. Heardt. Yeah. So I played a lot. Even in the playoffs, Gordon came back.

Like, I was still in the rotation, played a lot of backup five because Tice was our quarter. We had Ennis Freedom. Did we have NS that year? I think we had Enis Freedom that year. Yeah. And then, but played a lot of backup five and then kind of made a name through that, that whole process at Rick.

a year. Man, you're getting draft at your homie crib as far. Like, you were just over there kicking it. You're just over there kicking it. That you didn't have no party or nothing? No, it was just literally. It was like 12. It was like me, my family, him, like a couple of my boys, but like, we're all just kicking it because it was like,

I'd rather do it. Like, I didn't want to do nothing crazy because I'd be hate to be the guy that's sitting there like, damn. Was you nervous you might drop to the second round? I wasn't nervous. I'd go second round, but I definitely didn't think I was in the top like 15, 20 picks. I was like, fuck around and 30.

Like, yeah, the same experience. Yeah, I remember I was supposed to get picked at 17. And when I ain't get picked, I ain't know where I was over. Yeah, I was like, oh, it's over. I'm about to go second round. That's how I felt. I was like, 22, I was like, I'm not going to Boston. So I started looking at teams.

I was like, Utah 23. Best chance I got. Not Utah. San Antonio 29? When you start doing that, you cook. You start thinking you cook. Yeah, I was like, I'm cooked. Like, even in my reaction, like, you see me, I'm not.

crying. I'm not, I'm just like, damn, I'm going to Boston. I got to Boston. I was like, so like, why did y'all draft me? Because I took the clipboard out of coach's hand and the workout. But they brushed it off and they're like, just don't do that shit again. I already know Jay, shout to Jay. That's my guy. Jay's crazy. What vet gravitated towards you when you got to Boston? Like, who showed you the ropes? Kaywalk. K-walk's my vet. Yeah.

Even like, I'm going to say, because like, technically the guys I knew most of the guys in the roster. JT was best friends with Harry. So, like, we were mutuals already through HG. and I was like, all right, cool. Then it was KWKWK, Brad Wanamaker. And, uh, O.G. Brad. Gordon. Gordon at the time. Gordon's

type of vet, though, that like, do as I do. Like, I'm not going to pull you along. So if you want to show up at 6 a.m. to work out with me, cool. But like, I'm not about to ask you to show. Yeah, yeah. KWalk was the type to be like, anything you got, like, I'm here for you. Like, damn, COVID happened that year. I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. because my lease, I can't pay for the lease.

I can't get paid no more. And then at the same time, like, I can't go home to my grandparents or my mom. Like, they, 90, 60-something years old. Paywall was like, come live with me. So I lived with Kaywalt the entire COVID until we went to the bubble. So, like, and then Smart, of course, was a vet too. But, like, all those guys were my vets. Kimba.

Kimba was a great. Yeah. Yeah. It was a great. Kimba to embrace you and bring it to his home, brother. That's love. Think about growing up in Charlotte. That was a man.

Yeah. I remember I told him the story. I said, you came to practice at Providence Day when I was in ninth grade. I remember asking for your autograph. He's like, damn, I don't remember that, but I remember practicing the PD. I was like, yeah, in the small gym, like I walked up to you. Like, it was like a fan moment for me too. And then also, like, to have him as a vet.

Still to this day, that's my dog, nice, my coach. Yeah, yeah. Coach Kevin was a coach. What the fuck was you going to do if Kimmer didn't say pull up? I was just going to slum it. I'm going to go back somewhere. We found out how to figure it out. We found out how to figure it out.

There's a dead girl. We didn't have to go remember with your guy. It's nothing. It's insane. It's kind of crazy. I was going to ask what you did with that first shake, but I forgot that. That COVID shit was wicked, man.

Like, we was over here and thinking about the bubble. Like, bubble was insane, too. Yeah, what was that thing? I was about to ask you that. That was the bubble. I got so many stories. That bubble, man. So, so many stories.

Don't say too much. I can't say too much. I can't say too much. This is the wrong positive. I can't say too much. Yeah, go to the pivot. It was... The bubble was crazy just because, like, you got to think.

You play a game after a game. You can't shower. You walk out the locker and you see that you just played. Yeah. Like, and mind you, there was so much going on in the bubble. And mind you, there was nobody but dudes. Like, it was to a point where, like, they had this one pool where you had the shrimps. Like, you go get shrimp.

You go to your room. That was the best, best food you can get on the bubble. You couldn't order in from the start. You didn't get no takeout. Like, I remember the one time dude went to the edge of the bubble, got suspended for three games. Yeah. So you couldn't order until, like, I think it was, like, 50 days in.

And they showed the meals I had. Boy, the meals was. They delivered me to your room. No, LeBron. LeBron ain't good. Brown had his own room in the top penthouse, one of the things. For real? No, for real.

Yeah, the house on the campus. Yeah, speak for yourself, Gene. Stop playing. Man, he had, he was like that. Yeah. I knew about. Hey, man, we're in there with all grown-handsmen and super star. Don't come across the room.

Different bubble experience. You didn't know that. I didn't know that. Ron legit, like, he had his own, like, he had their own set up. Like, next thing was taken care of. They don't know anything. Somebody leaks some shit. I said, oh, that nigga, Brian special.

I'll put a little Brian for that. So, yeah, so then next to you know, we have, that bubble experience was insane. And even just with people like, no, I can't put the dog out. Like, my dog, I can't put a guy out like that. Nah. Like, there are some people that hang out in the pool waiting for, it's come down, like, you know, different energies. Yeah.

You can probably assume who was in the bubble at the time. Okay. So it was a different, different time. The real outtake. That's a rough experience. And I ain't gonna lie. I was at Hooping Doe out in that shit, though. Imagine you playing like, you know, Battle for Atlantis.

Yeah. The exact feeling is that with no fans. Okay. So, like, you're in a ballroom. You're in an auditorium ballroom, court. They put those TV screens around you. That's when it got wicked, where you're like, it was jokes because you look up.

You see, my pops, my pops had a, like, cigarette damn near in his robe. On the Zoom call. On the Zoom call, I'm going to be like, pop. Like, he takes an afternoon and said, pop, you can't be doing this, man. I'm like, I'm going out there and chilling. I'm like, dude, dude, with the road. You're chilling. I say, yeah, this is a different experience.

You got, like, they're pumping them crowd noise with the home arena. Yeah. Like, it wasn't real. Like, I always say, the bubble was such an experience that you have people playing out of their minds. They never played that way before. Yeah, directly. That's crazy. Oh, my soul, T.J. Warren, Bubble was one of the coaches.

They ever played basketball. He was damn near. Yeah. They played that in all the time. That's scoops because guys ain't have to deal with nothing else besides ball. Yeah. At the same time, it was like, I ain't never seen dudes like, Tau. was pulling up off one leg, three.

Want some crazy. They're real, bro. They felt good. John Murray. Crazy. Go. It had to be better than playing in the next year, though. Like, I can't give up.

That was terrible. It was horrible. So you landed in them big old arenas with nobody in there? Yeah. Yeah. It was dead. It was so funny. What was that?

You remember that game when somebody was talking crazy about a ref and screamed that shit in the game? And you can hear everything. And you heard everything. The ref stopped by the bench. It was like, You can't talk to me that way. You can hear everything, bro.

Our first game, we walked in the stadium. We were about to play Milwaukee. I'm like, oh, this shit ain't going to work, gang. Like, I can't even get hype. Yeah, the vibes just. Jay T hit a game winner. And everybody's going to go. There's nobody giving a fuck.

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We're here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food.

You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. I can imagine. And it's tough because even for me, like, because Peyton preaching those guys are rookie, so they never experienced fans. Versus me, I experienced fans for the first half of the season, then dealt with the bubble.

They got wiki. Then dealt with the next year. So it was, like, completely different. Like, I'm over here, like, bubble times was, I feel like it was a grind. But then the next year, it felt like literally the entire season was just, like, toss it to the grain. Yeah. Want to be there.

Damn. That shit was over with. Didn't nobody want to be there, though. Bro, we had COVID. We had, what was that game? We had Joe Johnson, Justin Jackson. Oh, I had left then. No, no, no, no.

It was before you left. Nah, I was gone. When Joe got there. Joe wasn't there. No one there. I left. But I remember we had to sit one time. We had to do the COVID test and they, like,

malfunction. And we had to be there for, like, sit out there for, like, 50 minutes and wait. like they'd start bringing you food. Wow. We just sit there and waste the coach. Is that before you got on that shit? The thing you had the past ago.

Hey, don't tell nobody. I was clear. I was going to. Oh, I was. Yeah. Oh, that's right, boy.

I was in real Levard. The bar is great. Hey, God, I was getting through there, bro. I know it's just high track B here. We're going to talk about later. Yeah. Tomorrow is the greatest power for the ball.

something. I told you. I don't care what nobody says. I told you. He's solidified. He said, he said, I had to vote's coked out summer than the world. He said, I was insane. He said, I had some fun of them summer. I said, you know, y'all talking to an addict. That's not funny. He's that real addict. That's not funny, but the way he was, it was for late for late. He was Mar is a Wild Boy.

You said, man, I had some favorite boy ever, bro. To say, I had some fun times of the summer coked out. They're like, you can't say that, LaBore. On God, LaBarr lie. You definitely hit that powder door to see. That's too long to do playing. Greg, don't sneak on it. I'm just saying, that's not in the word.

He definitely did. He's a problem. He definitely did. You're so respect. All of them guys back in the day, I feel like, was. No, not in the 2000. No, he ain't even that old, though. Yeah, he missed the list.

You remember John Starks on the. Yeah. You know I see? That's G. No, but, let's be on that. Y'all, we're convincing it. You don't remember it either.

That was a wild interview. That's a wild interview. Yeah, boy, blacked out. I ain't never seen nobody tweet out like that. He got me. He didn't even get back on D. I've seen people lay down, like, chill. No, no.

No. You've seen that? What is this? That is not their bike. Like, you'll see at the beginning. Look at the bottom left. Oh, that was powder? You think it was, man.

No, bro. He just tweaked. That was the momentum, bro. That was the momentum, bro. That's a... Momentum. A dude shooting the half-course shot. That's the momentum from. That's the drill. You didn't hit the only.

He wasn't going on the fight. There wasn't no contests. He just tweet, bro. I don't want to say to get you on the show. You're about me speak about powder. I'm just saying it don't make you act like that. That was something. My thing about malfunction.

They just tweet, bro. John Starks is a little more old. Crazy. Honestly, that's the first emo. He really the OG. No, you can't. He just tweet, because he just tweet. Oh, man, my boy tweaked down.

He just laid down. He just pushed up. He just tweaked. He doesn't even remember that, me. Listen, that's the first thing that came to mine. I didn't know. The thing back to those 90s, because that's back when there was no real testing. Yeah.

It was really the 80s, though. Yeah. He was talking about Reese. He said, boys who smoked squares a half time. Yeah. Beer and a, beer on the Gator and a Gatorie. containers. They said Larry used to have a beer.

Like, that's why this is my dog. Like, L.D. When he had a beer after the game, I was, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all have to, y'all take the beer away from L.D., but they was drinking beer. They're undergo of a game. And he just dig the next Larry. What boy, T. It's not funny.

Let him rock out. That's real shit. I agree. Yeah, Michael Philly took that beer. He looked at him. Like, hey, man. I ain't going to lie. Me and E.T.

E.T. one of funniest human beings I believe. Yeah. Shout my dog, ET. Yeah, we love E.T. Shout to bro. That's one of our own for sure. Those one-on-one sessions.

I used to watch. The real-a-old. Okay, so you're neutral. I'm neutral. How did those one-on-one sessions go? Please tell the truth. I give credit where credits do. Jet did win a couple games.

I'm alone, though. Like, he won a couple games. Show my nigga some love. But also at the same time, like, it was always J-T, E-T, I ain't never really see no win. I'll give him true. Speak to truth. I'll get the truth.

I'll get it. You know. He was about to text you. He was about to text for sure. But that was retired E.T. He was like 25 pounds. He was, you know, before he got back into shape. That's a fight.

So E.T. was just there. You know, he always, I compete, man. I compete. Yeah. No threes. But you know what I mean? Yeah, it was a fight. That's a fight.

So then E.T. Never really won. Jet, I'd say, would win like seven for the games, I'd say. Like, he'd have his head of his days where, you know, he won a couple. Okay. J.T. dominated. The rest. For sure.

For sure. And then like the occasional times when me and Peyton joined anymore. Paying one, I play one-on-one. Paying one-on-on-one all the time. Hey, though. Yeah.

Payton would be the type to like, they do three spots, right? Then he'd be like, let's do seven. Yeah. It's like, yeah, we're done. Yeah, yeah. I remember there was one day at me, J-T, J-B, you,

and Peyton all played. And I remember because they think he's assholes for real. Just like, I used to like, I used to never do the shit in there. Like, sit out doing one-on-one. I never did in the games. So every time I made the time. tough move. I remember I messed up J.B.

one time. Jet was like, it was like, damn, G. Do that shit in the game. Go, yeah. So. But like, so, but it was some good times. It was hell of fun. That team was one of the, I told you. That's the one of the funniest. One of the funniest teams, bro.

Tristan and Brad was the most comedy. I tell those stories to the day. Double T, bro. Team 13, baby. All is it. This is how we do it. Cleveland. Yeah, let Brian breathe, bro.

This is how we did it in Cleveland. They're like, oh, shit. This motherfucker can't coat, man. Y'all got to help, man. Y'all had an hell of rock. Man, what? Every one time we got on a plane, the food was weak. Hey.

Oh, my God. We're all on there. We're chilling. Everybody's just chilling. Like, this what y'all eat? Like, yeah. They would never do this in Cleveland. He said Cleveland.

Braun would have went crazy. Crazy. We're like, all right, bro. Kempel, look at me. He has to come on this. He has to come on this. I love it. I love it.

Just how they treat y'all we on with you? Oh, God, bro. This is what happened? We're still to play, all this. Yeah, I swear to God. Was he to get a good bet, though. Yeah, he was the coolest team as I ever had. Good thing.

He made you take care of your rucks. Like, he never did, made you do nothing crazy. By then, like, I was a second year, so I ain't have to do crazy stuff no more, but, like, Peyton, Aaron, them, A-A-Rond, man. Oh, man. Do crash out, my dick, killing that up.

Yeah, he's hooping. I used to beat his ass every day one to one. And he needs to be, oh, my guy used to bust his ass. Joe, shout to Jones. Joe used to be like, playing. Come on. He's got to get better. He got a guard.

You got to be a gore. Come on. He likes to be fucking. Damn. Now, my boy, Patians, And he'll pay the pleasure for it. But you talk about it earlier on, Payton Pritch or his development. What he looked like, did you see earlier on, too, that he was going to be like that?

Yeah. When they got that, when they got him on that contract, I was like, oh, this is. And they robbed and the league. Oh, bogus, right? Rob. I think they're going to take care of him. They're going to make it right. Oh, he's a fan favorite.

But that dude, like, when I tell you, he was cooking like that from the moment he came in. Damn. And then, like, he also, like, he waited his time, but at the same time, he was always killing. Like, you could tell. He worked his act. Like, he's the type of person you have to tell to get out the gym. Sort of God. Like, he was one where he'd be in the morning, they'd be like,

hey, we got a true lockout day. And everybody was can come in but pay him. Damn. And he's the type of person that, like, they keep him out of the gym, he's going to find another gym next door. No, he's a basketball junkie. Yonke.

Bro. I used to be like, I remember, I was like, Brad, play paint you, man. It's cool. Like, because Brad was like, you know. He's ready. He's ready. Yeah, that's right.

That's what I'm saying. I remember that conversation both with the Brad. Hey, play that play them. Play on me. I'm tired. I acting like he all won't play. Play them.

He was cooking and practice, though. You got to think Pay and been through it all. Like, he was in that position with Jet. He started playing again. He made came. He was hooping for real. Yeah. Then after that the next season,

it was Malcolm Bragg, then Jeff, like, Derek White, Marcus Smart. Yeah. He didn't touch the court. Yeah. And then following year, that's when they started going off.

I love his development, bro. We just had a crazy segment about him and Caitlin Park on the show. I spad. Yeah, they got paying fuck, though. They'll say they got paying. They got paying. Yeah, Brady got the wallet. Paying nice. Yeah, love to the women.

Love, love. Caitlin, Caitlin nice. Paying different. Yeah, paying different. Paying different. Paying is so nice that in a team with JT and J.B they give from the ball sometimes at the end of the game, and lap.

He's nice, bro. I ain't never been. I always say, The end of the year. He driveled a fuck out that ball. Oh. He got handled like a motherfucker. He said he did.

He said we did his head right the other day. Yeah. He won't put niggas in a blender. We got to play them soon and I'm pissed. Go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. He'll be talking crazy too. He talked.

He talked. Like, he truly like, like he can go any pickup session. Yeah, I got a meet, bro. Yeah. He's definitely got to be. I got to meet my boy, P.P. For sure.

Who's Pee? He's me. He's me. Meeting the Pee is much. Calling Pee-P? Meeting the Pee, though, it's crazy. Ah, that is great because I ain't there. But see, I don't call my shit that.

That's probably why I went over my head. It's the wood or nothing. But as to G. Gee. Gee. Oh, that's what hell about it is. Or that's not going to be. Or nothing is free here.

That's a wild can't bear. Tough is guard, though, in the league, man. That's what I was. You understand size as big, but you hold your shit. He guard one through five of them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For me, it's always, it's really niggas like jet. Like, short niggins that can shoot that can go, like, fast.

Like, Peyton, like, Darius Garland, Steph Curry's, like, C.J. McCollums. Like, those guys are the hardest one to be the guard. Because I'd rather guard, this going to get me fucked up in the future. I'd rather guard KD and those type of guys because it's more, like, more fun than guard a nigga that's just going to pit pat, like, pass it off, cut back door, sprint to get the ball. Yeah. It's too much. Like, relax.

I knew you was different when you was going Joel and B. Yeah. I never forget that, bro. I was watching that game. He was fucking up. Nah, he was actually doing a good job

but Joelle and B, seven foot. They're 300 pounds. He's six, seven. For sure. Did you sign up for that or they put you in that? So, like, I always able to, like, guard bigger guys. Like, even, like, college, everything else

going to the league. And we, like, they saw it when we play, bam. Like, we're just going to try them and like try them, like put them on Yokic, put them on and beads, see how he does. And then, like, I was guarding. But, like, I actually do better, I think, on,

I always say I guard best three through five. One is and twos, like Donovan Mitchell's, those guys are the world. It's a long day. Struggle, like, struggle before. A long day. They might not score four, three out of five, but, like, or sorry, four out of five,

but maybe three out of five. Other guys, I'd say two, maybe one out of five. Yeah. Like, even, like, regarding Singgoon recently, like guys like that, like, I feel like I feel confident in my matchup. versus, like, other matchups, I'm like, ah, he might got the better of me.

I'm truthful about it. No, for sure, bro. Like, in B, even, for example, like, guarding him in the playoff series, guarding Janus, like, Brooke Lopez, like those guys are, like, those are ones I feel like I have the most fun garden because they don't flop,

they play downhill, and, like, they fight. Like, I like fighting, so, or. We're good. I see that bruise on my side of your head, but I say, yeah. Oh, boy. You're all right.

You're on Roald Fight Club. You're something about that way. What was the life playing in the finals against, you know what I'm saying? That type of word saying, y'all was battling. Surprise you didn't go from Fight Club. That's about the pissus. Don't worry.

We get there. Playing in the finals is cool because, like, it's a different experience. Yeah. Like, they always talk about, like, the CP quote. Like, I want to feel this, like, experience again, like, type shit. Like, it was legit.

Like, you, that first game, you stepped on the court. I remember my heart was beating out my chest. Yeah. And you start playing, and it's some of the best environments, whether it's like fans, the media you have to do before the game. Like, it's top to bottom, crossed from first man to 15th, man. I feel like you got to stay locked. No, that's a, it's a different experience.

And, like, to experience it in that 22nd and two series, like, I remember we played those games. We, man, we thought we wanted. Like, we were up to, 2-1. or yeah, 2-1. And I was like, yo, like, we're going back home. Like, we got to get this next win. Game 4 happens.

Like, I always say Steph went off. Steph is insane. Jordan P. was the biggest reason why they won that series. But Steph, that game four was ridiculous. Like, oh, yeah. I remember I was guarding it, but then when I got subbed out, I remember watching it and I was like, oh, yeah, this is a different level of basketball player.

And he was hype too. Like, he was on a bitch. Yeah, he was showing a lot of emotion and shit. He was, he was wild. I ain't never, like, because Clay was cool that whole series, and he was good, but, like,

it was really JP and stuff that was, that was carrying them throughout that entire run. For sure. JP was, and then Otto Porter, fucking,

and Andrew Wiggins, bro, they had some big ass game. Otto Porter, out of his body. That man, got me off to this day, because that final year

he got traded to the Raptors was out the league. Like, still makes me mad. Like, he was busting, bro. We always got,

we always got some random dudes that beat us back when I was in Boston. Yeah, that was George, auto porter. Yeah, he was healthy all the point. He'd never been healthy his entire career. And then final was running on the freaking play every game,

20 minutes and be good. He was killing. Hey, you still, man. You was that close to being like me, bro. He was that close to being a champ, bro. That's all good. Hey, but he did get your bucks up out of here before that thought,

but that's true. I was all right going, bro. It didn't matter to work. The first part about it is that championship year. I remember you play, what, three minutes? Yeah, man. He was real fact. Damn, Jim.

I know I'm going to my coat today. I wanted to ask him. Have you ever matched up with Draymond? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. He did another game against the Pelicans? He jumped on the Zions back.

You tried to rebound. All right. Like, that was, even game one of the series, me and Dray got into that series. Yeah. And I always say, got the most respect for Draymond in the world because I've made it to this day and I'll never change in the stance. I was my favorite player growing up like because six, seven, six out more that, you know, pass it,

involve, you know, everything that stuff. So like, I'll give him the credit where it's due. But every time we play against him. And smoke. Smoke. Yeah. That's right. Competitive. Like, I think that he's a type of person that, like, talk, as you all know, talks all the shit in the world. That's a fair. He got the team to back it up and does a phenomenal job of, you know, make an impact on winning where you can. So like when I was in Boston,

especially back and forth, back and forth, every single time I think when I was the first, with my first five years, there was always an altercation. Damn. There was some level of altercation where it was like those, when I got traded to Charlotte

and tried to kick me in my nuts. When it was, you know, when I was in Dallas, like when I had in Boston, like, wrestle to the ground, double text. Like,

it was always something. This year, I think this year was the first year, that play. I remember y'all wrestle. I just never knew that child was to, like, guard each other.

Normally they put me on somebody else because like with Dre, you try and put your five on them, you try and put like, when we were in Boston, we put JT on them because we were like, we can just switch it. Like you put me on,

who was on that team at the time? Otto Porter? I don't, no. I won't take credit for that. It was, like, they put me on. Whee? Looney. Yeah.

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What the vibe's like, man? I always say, just watch the reactions, man. I saw it from the start. Like, this is like, even before this place started happening, like, Dern and Moose were drawn. They were talking, talking. And once the mush happened, I was like, oh, like, it started getting crazy. I stood up at it. He packs my hands.

Oh, I think over there. Like, all right, let's see if they get it taken care of because I'm not about, I got to find my second year in the league or third year in the league against the Bulls. I got to spend it one game. Man, I lost $30,000 or $3,000. Yeah. I ain't never doing this again. No, for sure. So then this happens, right?

So I'm over here like, all right, they got situated. When I saw a mile swing on Duren, I was like, all right, you see me. And tell me to start walking. We start walking. And Stewart ran, that's when we really start walking. And my coach pulled me back because he was like, Grant, we need you to play. And you see me trying to be on the court twice.

And I'm like, yo, I want to be involved. It's fun. Nah, sit your ass down. Don't lose no chicken. That's what it was. You can't lose that. My nigga, Miles ducked that bitch. They was in the ring for real, digger.

Each sequence was fun because you saw the first one. I give a lot of credit during because he really could knock my dog out, like Musa. It's like, this situation happened, tries to swing on him, holds back. Hold him back. He's like, all, we got him situated. He walks away.

We think it's done. Boots are going crazy. Throw security. Boom. Right here. This is when he could have. Yeah. He could have walked the motherfucker.

He checked the hook. And he watched the second. Man, he's been showing. You can tell he can fight too because he had a little turns. He checked. Held it back. So I was like, all right, he checks the hook. Then keeps backing up.

So I was all right, cool. They get moose situated. Miles, I think, was just. just riled up. He was talking. He's trying to support his teammate. Goes, keeps pursuing him to try and swing. Swings on during, they swing back and forth if they miss, miss, miss.

So, nothing happened. Seward came from the other side of the bench. Yeah. He could have scooped him, though. I see Bobby. Hey, to his day, I think he would have scooped him. He had a fucking dunker route turns over. I don't know if either one of them know what to do when they get to the ground. Like, you got to think, because throwing hands is different.

He slipped it, scoops, goes for a double leg, tries to slam him. I forgot you. I forgot my fault. You know, I meant to all, like, keeping down. The MMA shit? Yeah, we're sure. I love watching. And he just broke down the stances of an NBA part.

He didn't have to be. I forgot that shit, man. What the fuck we doing? What are the screen? Yeah, what's what are you doing? What are you doing? He's pulling up my stats to the fight. What are he doing?

Oh, that's crazy transition. Hey, at least you got points. You know, that's what? You had zero zero. Oh. Two point zero, zero point eight or six? Yeah, yeah. Something.

No, I'm God. Yeah. No, fuck you off. Then I think Miles would have slammed them. I don't know what. After that, there ain't no chance of breaking that up. Nah. That's too.

Too big. Because they're growing my neighbor. I say, my dog. I said, oh, my boy, been in this before. Yeah. I took him back to the hood. He's all you've been doing boxing lessons over the past. Yeah.

For sure. Yeah. They got wicked for sure. All right. What was like. moving from Boston to Dallas. What was that transition? Move.

Yeah. I was going to say because like... Sign in trade, baby. Signing trade is always a misconception. People think signing trades is like, oh, this guy got moved. Versus signing trades, basically the player decided to go somewhere else and stuff like that. So when I left the team, I was like, you know, at the time, me and Joe were on the best of terms. Now, it's my dog locked in for life.

But at the time we were on best terms, I was like, I'm gone either way. So then I signed in Dallas. I'm like, all right, cool. So I'm definitely me, Luke is represented by my agency. Get there, Mark, and those guys are like, hey, we're excited to have you. We need you to be like a leader on this team, hold people accountable, all this other stuff. I'm like, cool. So then that season happens, you know, how it went.

Yeah. And, like, it was a great time. Like, I look back to those times. I learned so much about that team, like Kyrie, like all the misconceptions that I had across about him at the league. I was like, yo, this is one of the best teammates I've ever had. Yeah. Like, and then you got, like, LD, one of the best players. I remember those conversations with E.T and.

That's why I brought up. Yeah. JT.'s my dog. JT. is my dog. JT. is my dog. They do that. So don't do that. And while you do that.

JT impacts winning more. Okay. So how you determine which one is a better player, that's on you to decide. The talent that I saw playing with Luka is absurd. He's nice. Who did you tell you about J2? I missed that one. The way he impacts.

The way he impacts. impacts winning is unprecedented. He impacts the game out every facet. He can defend. He can, like, he's a playmaker. He can score. So he's a 610 wing that can do it all. That's the best way to describe it.

L.D. 6, 7 European bucket that also controls the game. But he could, like, he pace. Like, he knows how he puts people in position. Yeah. Like, I've never had that many open shots since playing with Luca Donchie in my life. It's difficult at times. At the same time, like, it's like you watch him and you're amazed. Like I always say JT, I think had to benefit of the doubt that like in moments, like, he was amazing in moments, but also we had a really, really freaking good team.

So you didn't have to be amazing at all times. Like with L.D, I felt like every single game, I'd be like, there's something new that I'm like, holy crap. And maybe that's just how they both play. You know, JT is a little bit more passive, also like a little bit more like trusting of his teammates. LD's a little more ball dominant, you know, getting to his own. What's that first practice that training camp? Like, you got to see Kyrie and Luca hooping at the same thing. He ain't cooked.

Oh, no. So I was, you going. I'll say that. So, like, I always bring it back to that family story. Because when Finley came out, it was like, Grant got 26 on his head. I'm like, that is cap. Oh, yeah. That is cap.

Yeah. I definitely got scored on. About 12. I get it. Like, definitely about 12. 12 switches. So, like, but L.D., like, I was in charge of making sure. you showed up every day. So like I was like always agitating them like pissing them off some way like

makes, and now is we practice like we practice every day. It's different than different. Like, we skirmished. Like that was always embarrassing. So it was smooth. Like I was rocked with it. And so it was competitive. Like Kai would, you know, pick and choose. Like some days when, you know, guys get into it, that's when Kai would turn it up. But other days, you know, LD needs this for his condition of whatever he needs to do and let him rock out. So. It was fun, but also that team, like, you could tell that team was a finals team, even without, like, the talent, like, we needed one more big at the time. Like, Rishon Holmes, I think at the time when I was there.

Yeah. Like, we needed, like, Gaffert changed that team. Yeah. Hell of a trade. Underrated trade. Hell of the trade. And even my trade with PJ. Like, it was a good trade in my hand, like, in terms of, like, similar players.

But at the same time, like, I think PJ provides a little bit more, I like, passing more than he does. Like, I feel like he's a little more score, score motivated. So. Like even that group, like they were, they were prepared to go to the finals, and that's why they did. I just think that made it tough at the end. So you were one person who probably thought last year, like, everybody else, like, how the hell did that trade Luca? Or that was probably shocking a tail to you.

Oh, no, I was in bed. And I was like, I saw the tweet. I was like, ain't no way. And at the same time I know, because, like, Nico loves AD. You know, he's a Kobe guy. Ad was Kobe's guy. He was talking about Yon. I thought I was really trying to set up.

Yon is going to Dallas. Oh, that's what's. That's what they really wanted. They wanted Janus and AD in Dallas. I think that was the envisioning the plan. Oh, shit. Yonnes and AD? Mm-hmm.

Wow. That would have fed families. Yes. Generations. Yeah. Whatever. Because that's all he talked about. He talked about those two guys.

Those were the guys. So I think, like they said, remember the first call they made to? Was it Timberwolves. I think it was Milwaukee. Then it was Timberwolves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Lux. Going after Yonah. Yonis. Tim Bulls going after end. They don't know that was a year earlier. It's been this year, boy? Oh, Yonis would have been out of there.

It's been in deep Ellen for show. Yeah, so. But that was a, it was smooth, like seeing it up. But then when the trade happened, I was like, well, Nico's just fed up. They were, they were done with it. They were done with like the, like, organization control. They were done on them. So they were like, we're going to move off of them.

And in my opinion, I think that was messed up. blindsided your best player um superstar superstar probably top three top two player in the NBA yeah um so it was like it was very shocked from a player perspective because I'm like you could have easily like gone to him be like yo because they also thought they did right by him because like if you know LD enough like you know it's probably three places he'd go it wasn't Dallas yeah and that's probably one of the three but it I mean he did get traded to the lakers she did like Like, if you knew you were champion to the Lakers, you could still go to him and be like, yo, like, yeah. I'm not to you.

I know you're probably don't hate this. You're out of here. Yeah, you're about out. Like us. Yeah, you are going to L.A. You're going to L.A., bro. You will be like. He's probably like, damn, what?

Well, that's an extra 50 million probably about to make in the endorsement deals. For sure. You know, 50 million you take it away. You're going to say. Taxes. Well, yeah, even though. Yeah, but he don't make what up. Oh, yeah, you right.

It ain't on state packs. Super Max. He don't get that back, y'all. Trust me. I need that now, bro. No, I don't know. He ain't get it. You see L.D. in a ton of commercials?

LD not really like that. Grants, yeah. Did you know, motherfuckolding or had a tree? Yeah, nigga. Yeah, nigga. You didn't know that. The nigga told you back to the tree, ain't it? Yeah.

Oh, Paul Mottore. All I did. L.A. Do you know. That's a big of shit. You know Kauai had a guy. That's a baller of the year. That's the name of the episode.

Yeah. That's a ball. You're saying. Bro, niggas did notes. The digger did notes. The digger did notes. We might know so.

Okay. Yeah. A big. French. Believe that. Trying to French. Believe that. Hey.

Y'all are problems. Hey, man. Have you back from injury, man. Good to see you back on the court, man. How's the feeling being back coming back from an injury? I know that's a grime, man. It was stuff like that. It's great, but it's tough.

Yeah. Like, I feel like, come back from any injury, you know, any type of, like, it's my first injury of my life, bro, that made me miss time. Okay. But, like, coming back from injury has shown me that you have to be patient. Yeah. You got to be understanding that you're not like, you might be better in your mind, like, you're better than you were, but you got to like be understanding that the shot's going

to come around. Like, even the first two or three, four games, like, I was playing good defensively, helping the team win and stuff like that. But, man, I was shooting like 12%. like from the field, 12% from the three. I was, I was killing in practice. Yeah, it ain't nothing like that game speaking. It ain't nothing like it.

Now I think I'm getting more accustomed to it, like, turning it back around. But like, even so, it's like, they say it takes a full year. Nasty-o. So, like, I'm trying to be patient for myself, but also understand that I can't be too patient because. Trying to make playoffs. Yeah. I'm trying to make playoffs. Hold yourself to a high standard, but also like doing all things that matter.

Like, like before, you know, I always tell the stories like that finals run. I used to manipulate my weight so badly. Like I would go from 24. I remember that first round series. I went from 243. Second round series we played a Bucks. I got up to 248. Third round series we played BAM.

I knew up to play in the 5. I was 254. Bam. I tried to get down to 243 again to play the Warriors. I can only get down to like 247. So like I used to try and do that. You need to tell him how to do that shit. I don't know.

I don't know what to do. Methods. No. I'll tell you how to lose weight. There's John Stark. It's a little mom. Lamar. La Maw.

Slah flu. I can't do that anymore. I can't do that no more. I can't manipulate our weight. You know, I'm not going to be able to. I don't want you to get into trouble there. I can't manipulate my weight. Yeah, never.

Yeah, never. I can't manipulate my weight anymore. way I'd used to. So like now with the ACL injury, I'm like, I got to make sure I stay at the 2407, 248 rather than going up 255. And you're a way 248 because that shit. Hey, niggins. You're all for talking about you. You need to teach you about that. I was like to get into my head. I'm constantly. I'm talking. I'm going to. Listen, Gene, listen, me and being here, we're the real Charlotte Hornets, man. Yeah, man. Appreciate you, bro. For real. He killing.

and the out of playoffs. Oh, before you go, you got to tell us about these cards. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Off the court. Quick game. Free game. So whatever cards, like, you know,

that might be fans of, stuff like that, like ripping wax, basically like gambling. I'll give you a true. Okay. Like, I brought a case to rip if you want to rip it after we're done, where it's like, if you want. Oh, yeah, shit.

Yeah. Let's see what? So we got a case of Panini Prism to bun below it, the brown case. That's a case of Panini Prism football this year. So, like, should do our autos. Yeah, it's like a whole case of like 12 boxes in it. Oh, shit.

Damn. Big money on the way. Yeah, so cases that guarantee case hits. So, like, you normally have a better chance of making your money back compared if you buy an individual box. So, yeah. Let me, yeah, if you got a key. So the way you really, it's basically about prospecting, just like a GM, just like you would if you're owning the team. And you basically hold cars.

Some cars are more rare than others. The cars are more rare, sell for more. Yeah. So these It's about football Because it's the best way to talk about Okay Big rips

Right on, brother Yeah, box Yes, sir And if I find some heat in here I get to keep it I'm giving you keep Okay Oh man, we got gifts

Let me get it Now you're at Franklin And it's joint Listen, if you hit it Let's tell you the truth If you hit a manga You're coming off on five figures Just let y'all know

Okay So if you see a card That looks like an anime print Yeah Five figure card Say less Now listen, are you one of the people who be in there Ruin' All the Kid's Dreams of the Pokemon cards?

They have the people who pull up to the Vennemachine's Bucking Bell. I'm not the person that shows up by his point boxes and walks out. He said, I'm going to real. Okay. Like, I'm a person, like, I like buying that. Oh, it would be multiple packs of the other. Yeah, multiple packs. Oh, yeah.

All right, I'm a year of all the packs. I'll tell you if you had a good card. Oh, yeah. All right. I'm a number of car is what you're looking for. Okay. Everybody on the motherfucker packer. I got a Ray Lewis, though.

Is that fire? Yeah, so, like, the base card. So, like, base cards are cool. They're, like, cool names, but you want guys up, like, the shinier cards. Hey, Wilson McGa. Look, Jared Goff, would you consider it's a shiny car? So, yeah, that's a blue. That's a blue.

That's number. It's my nigga is PJ Hooszman's out of. So I'll tell you the number. Christian McCaffrey, I'll trade you. And also, that's nothing that you trade cards. But, like, what I always do is, base cards don't really matter, right? So I always just, you can peek it. You'll see that.

Joey got the house. It's the best card. Okay, who is that? Shalder Taylor. RJ Harvey basketball print to 180. Like, rookies sell higher than the vets do. Okay. Consistently.

So if you have a rookie card, that's a silver, then that will sell more than a rookie base. Number to how, like, numbered cards and sell more. It kind of goes by, like, increments. You're looking for, like, the bigger name. So quarterback's, like, you had a Jackson Dart silver, you might have hit, like, a couple hundred-dollar card in the gym. All right, so this old, he earned his binder.

He ain't rolling. Yeah. Okay, so this is like older, basically. Yeah, that's the insert. All right, I got alerts. They're silvers. Like, people will collect them for sets, but they're not really like something that you like,

you ever put to the side unless it's numbered. I'm getting legendary. I got the white freony. I got Lawrence Taylor. Yeah. So, yeah. You get some cool names, but because they're not their rookie,

like if you go back and rip the products when they were rooks versus nowadays, unless it's an autograph or something like that. Cooper design, Super Bowl champion. Hell yeah. We have too much fun with this, man. Yeah. Got to tap me in for sure.

I appreciate you that. So we're going to get a kid going. This is where you get on. You might be able to get a sponsorship for the pot, you mean? Talk to him. Yeah. See you some products to rip. I'm getting all my favorite players, but I ain't get it.

And sometimes the favorite players are the ones you collect. Like, I got Bobby Wagner and I got Nick Bosa, even though Nick, you know, Nick Bosa be wilding. And I like us. Yeah. I got a Michael, Michael Vic auto, my case over there because, like, that's person. Lejean Rob. Lack. He called.

Blue Cade, Mike. Hey. And I don't know until the game was going up for this right now. You're really

searching for like Shador, Shador signs in this product. So if you get a Shdor Huka, T.J. Y got a Mark Andrew

shiny though. Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like all those cars that are colored yeah, will have some

what are you do with the core? I get Mark Andrew. I know he dropped that pass based on my mouth. Yeah.

The kids collect. Kids collect cars just for the joy, right? Yeah. So like the base cars that have no money, no incentive.

Yeah. You bring it to a card shop and be like, hey, give these out to like the 10-year-olds that one. I usually give everything under the bridge. We got a bridge

off here. Oh, yeah, that bridge is with you, man. Yeah, he gave out LRG outfits. All right. And on that note, God. Gene, we appreciate you know.

Gene, appreciate James. That's on a lot, man. It's out here. Dyer. I hear, I don't know. I got to see you, Frank,

diggie. Yeah. Shout out to the gay for show. Shout to Boost Mobile family. We tapped in. Hard rock bet. Leave the players alone, man. When you make the parlays and the crash outs, man,

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