Club 520 Podcast - 520 THROWBACK: James Johnson on hooping with Jeff Teague at Wake & Derrick Rose in Chicago

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by former NBA star and teammate of Jeff's at Wake Forest: James Johnson! James talks about his time with Jeff at Wake and their legendary squad sophomore year that was the No. 1 college basketball team in the nation. Teague, James, and the fellas talk about his time in the NBA with the Miami Heat and Memphis Grizzlies and why he shined there as opposed to when playing with the Chicago Bulls. Johnson reveals what it was like to play with Derrick Rose, how crazy the Tyrese Haliburton playoff run was with the Pacers, playing against Jeff in the league, and much more! Plus, don't miss Johnson give the inside scoop on the mime and hip-hop dancing classes him and Jeff had to take at Wake!All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tap in with the family. James, I know we were around the same age group. You had a Boost Mobile trap on back in the day, bro? Oh, you know, I definitely had a Boost Mobile. Definitely had a Boost Mobile. Come on, man. Legendary, hit me on my next tail chirp. You know the Vives, man, tap in with the family.

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Yeah, yeah. I know I'm going to get a call about our real. Yeah. I didn't know y'all clipped that. Well, I said, Adam, you got to get this shit together. Fuck you go. Fuck going on. Now, when I said the patience got cheated in fire, everybody said, well, I'm calling

a commissioner. You miss what they're going to lay and you're going straight to the top, man. Yes, man. Well, we'll talk. We're going to talk, cool. We'll get into it, man. I don't want to get turned them too early. No, bro.

Obviously, it'll league a long time. You have anybody hit your line about the parlay? Like, they didn't even sold on me today, man? nah, not me. That's a game. Yeah, if you listen, not me. Oh, it's facts. Use the discernment the right way, man.

Shout to the hard rock band for sure. Last with certain, La least, man. Shout our family over there at Stock X, man. We got family in the building. It's saying the guests. We got family, as usual. Introduce him last, man. To my far left, we got my dog.

Bishop Bia and out to Prylius. How you, nasty? What's happening, nasty? I'm excited about this one. This one? He's a real one, bro. Like, this nigga lifted a building off my car, man. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's the real one, man. Yeah. Man, listen, before you can get through intro, we got it, it's only right we do the stories on, man. Listen, man, the first time we had this episode playing, it was one of the craziest stories we have ever had in the city. Shout out to the old building, man.

It definitely fell on everybody car, man. Bro pulled it up in the new truck. Ram that bitch straight into the wall and everybody pulled that car out. You did, oh, nigga, it's raining outside. Ray, I'm like this, this, nigga, James, wide-eyed. Hold the building. For real, real.

Like, this is a true story, y'all. That's what I didn't get to see it. I'm holding. Every great for you, more. My car would have been way worse. It would have been worse. It's been worth for you, bro, so. You know what's crazy about that?

The building, you put a notice of your claim. Oh, God. It did. We had to get it off the roof. We had to get off the room. That's my thing. Your part did the wrong spot. A whole building

That's true story You're a spot where your shit can get trampled over Look out here Hey man you know everything doing good man Because everybody has new cars up there man God is good for sure man Still to my right My dog young nacho young tea

Got you what Good bro we got family in the building my brother Yeah I can't wait this is the episode Everybody's been waiting on everybody You're talking about It's finally happening It's about to be a goodie Come on man the real work for us man

We got a 16 year event man Pacers legend Our family in the building man Mr. James John Johnson, man, Big Dog, we appreciate you. You know what? Again, brother. I'm honored to be here, man.

For sure, bro. Fellas is legendary to me. Come on, man. We had to do it for sure, man. Now, TIG, man, just tell us how y'all linked up, man. Obviously, y'all go way back. Oh, we go way back, but I'll tell you the first time I seen James, he was walking through the airport.

I was leaving my wake-for-s visit. He was coming on to his wake-for's visit, and they was picking him up, dropping me off, and I'm like, he was walking by was like this. He was like, what up? And I was like, yeah I'm gonna go to wait I just knew like yeah that'll be my partner

like he was like what up and then they told me James just committed man we're gonna have James I'm like the dude I seen the airport right he's like yeah I was like Coach Battle was like he cold man

he cold he was like he's cold he was like he ain't gonna be with us very long damn what you mean by that he's like yeah he's gonna go to NBA damn

it was right let's go for sure shout out coach battles man he was right about a lot of things yeah What made you choose, like, what made you commit? I went on my visit, and them niggas was weak.

And I was like, can I tell the truth? It was weak. I said, oh, no, I'm going to play here right away. Okay. I love this to me, man. I was just the real. I was playing it right away.

This is before I, you know what I mean? I ain't know him like that. Now I know Ish, LD, even Cam before he left. You know what I mean? Yeah. It was definitely a business decision. Yeah. More than anything else.

Shout out Pat Kelsey as well, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm turning to Louisville around too. Yes, sir. He came around, made sure that Wake Forest was a top priority for me too as well. So hell of a scout, hell of a coach. Yeah.

Sure, for sure. Coach Kelts a cool dude, man. Come on, man, getting the Vail back right for short. Y'all had a crazy introduction to college, though, for both of y'all. Obviously what happened at RIPA, the coach processor, but what was that like? Y'all I'm saying, linking up getting on campus and then dealing with that before you even get into school

or school even start, for real. Yo, that was one of the most, like, overwhelming, I think that college ever was at that time, for real. Like, after that happened, I'm like, there's nothing else really that can go on that can, like, phase us. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So even that alone was like playing pressure-free

because we knew, like, deep down our loyalty, we deserve this for our loyalty. Anybody, you could have just left. You know what I'm saying with no penalty. No penalty. The portal and all this shit, they got going on now. It's like, you leave now. It's good money, but you leave back then.

You're setting out of the year. For sure. You know what I'm saying? But that wasn't the case for us. Like, we got to go to choose any school we wanted to and with no penalties of trading schools or whatever. So I think it was our loyalty. And like I said, after something like that happened,

I don't think nothing really can shake you in college. Oh, that's right. I remember the day. You remember he took us to McDonald's? That nigga drunk out my shake. No disrespect, R.P. He drank out my shake. I was sitting in the front.

He was like, my point, boy, I got to be. in the front, you know what I mean? So JJ and he was in the back and he drunk out my shake. And I remember I was like, man, he drunk my shake. And JJ was like, that's his shake now, Nick.

No boy. After that he passed away, I'm like, shit, I don't want no more shakes. That's crazy, bro. Like, no, no, and not just being on that. No, that's right. Like, how long after this guy?

I'm like, oh, shit, he didn't. We had went to, he dropped us off. We went up to, study tables. He went to his office and they was like he was running on a track. We just been there, what, an hour? They came and got us.

Damn, bro. And shit. You never considered transfer? I did. Because I only knew coach battle. Yeah. And Coach Prosser. I never met Coach Kelso now.

And I'm like, shit. Who gonna be the coach? They're like, Coach Gadda. I'm like, who's this? Yeah, what? And there was bolches out there. What was that happening? Like, I'm getting text messages from other coaches.

Like, yo, come here, you can come to our school. You'll play this. I'm like, hey, I'm sure. They ain't even checking all y'all. Yeah, they ain't taken to you to it or nothing. Like, you know, y'all to pull up. Assets. For sure.

But I ain't know Coach Gaudio at all. But we all thugged it up. Yeah, me either. I was with Pat Kelsey the whole time. Like, did everything. I didn't know. I didn't know Godio was next up. I don't remember they just had a.

at Coach Pee House for like five hours. And then tell us nothing. You remember? Right. We were just down there eating pizza, crispy cream, all the type of shit. And I'm a kid at the time. We 18. Yeah.

I'm like, damn, this shit cool. They ain't telling us nothing. So we just think we're having a good-ass time at Coach Pee House. And they finally told us like, damn. That's nuts, bro. Man, that's crazy. To start your college career off like that before I even get into like real campus life and shit like that.

Yeah, that was crazy. Damn Do you fuck with the new coach at first? Yeah Godil was always cool with me

He's fucked with him Oh I know He didn't He had no Yeah He's funny That's all the

Yeah Oh, that's a gay Yeah Godio ain't Yeah I know This What's he

To do This It was like Nah I ain't Fucked That I

I ain't Fogg With Godio No But he was, you were so good, though. Jeff was so good. Like, it was undeniably, like,

he was supposed to be starting. Don't knock on nobody. Like, they know how we feel. It's all loving. Yeah. But, nah, Jeff was always, always better than everybody. For real, like, he do moves. What, they used to call you by any means necessary.

They used to call his snick up by any means necessary. That's just a lot, dude. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not. I don't know Jeff like that. Nah, boy. He used to get a bucket anyway. Yeah.

Oh, five on one. You know what I mean? So it was like, people looked up to Jeff, but Jeff was always silent. Like, you had to really know Jeff. I think the person who got the best Jeff, for real, is Gary Clark, his roommate, another fellow fresh. Shout to Gee.

Yeah. Like, him and G, like, shared a different bond. But me and him, we shared a different bond. be the best player on the team balling. Yeah, I mean. And this is how we carrying it this year. It was like

it was like, it was like me and we pushed each other in that sense and then we upstairs late night playing one-on-one in the gym, only ones in there. We'd be in there Saturdays, Fridays till three in the morning, two in the morning, playing once.

You know what I mean? So it was always mutual, but like I said, L.D. Williams was great for us. Ish Smith, obviously, an NBA legend as well, in my heart. Yeah, my God. He changed the game.

Word. With his speed and all that. He's a student of the game, all that. Chase. Al-Farouk, obviously. Al-Farou came in. When Al-Farou came in, there was no longer two best players.

I don't speak. Oh, man. That's my name right there. Now we had three best players. That's what fun. We, We carried a different bond, too. Like, I remember when Alfrou came on his visit.

He came on his visit, and I was, what they called, chaperon? Yeah. He was a guide, too. Yeah. His guide or whatever. Man, he probably didn't understand Wake Forest was giving it up like that at the time. But right when he got there, I think he saw a football, football fight,

two girls fighting the hallway, fall out. I mean, I ain't going to say who picked that up. That's it good Well, you got it back I got it back I had to be Yeah, I'm going to real That thing was crazy

He was not ready to go All right He was like Yo, coming to wait We knew he was coming to You remember when white dude Ryan Kelly came though And we had all them fights

Oh yeah He ended up going to We had like 10 fights, bro He ended up going to Duke though We scared the shit out Yeah, well yeah Ryan Kelly He scared the shit out

But it wasn't nuts. It was Wake Forest. Never said that about Wake. Yeah, y'all turned Wake up. I didn't know Wake was, y'all was in that hockey. It wasn't just basketball. It was in football. Yeah, football niggas, what?

All from Florida. Ah. You know what? All from Florida. Them of my, niggas, they were wild enough. It was about all the fights and stuff. It was hell of fights. Oh, my God.

It was hell of fights. We were just talking about one downstairs, but it was hell of fight. Yeah, it was fights, mutual respect. And How was y'all relationship with the football team? Niggas was cool I mean, me and Jefflett I mean, we could go to the Capitolry first

because he made us cool with the football team because they kept calling me Mike Connolly when I first got there. Oh, Lord. And I was like, yo, stop calling you Mike Connolly, but I don't like that shit. And me and JJ and G, we were all just starting to get cool. Like, we were just starting to figure each other out.

And a dude called me Mike Connolly again. And I got shitty. And JJ was like, hey, my nigga, if you call him Mike Connolly again, I'm going to beat your ass. And the football nigga was like, nah, he'll beat your ass. He was like, y'all. He was like, y'all. LD is song for him. He was like, no, he'll beat your ass.

Dude, kind of chill. That's how we got cool with the football players. Okay, okay. But then all of them turned out young in turn. But good guys. character. A lot of the chip bond. That's my brother. Aaron Curry. Yeah, AC.

Even Fons, man. I know a lot of people are going to, I'm going to get backlash on that with the basketball, but Alfonso Smith. It was cool, though. He was cool. Great humor. Yeah. Man,

obviously, y'all freshman year, y'all get in there, you know what I'm saying? Y'all get active. Y'all have a little bit of success. But let's talk about going to that second year where it got real, when y'all was nasty. What was that feeling like, man? Shit, Jeff made us feel untouchable for real. No bullshit.

Like, I mean, like, keep it up being. Like, we went to Cali. I think we went to California, right? That 76 Classic or 8, whatever. Anaheim Classic or whatever. Jeff went crazy. Yo, one of the dudes, we watched him on film, this thing is jumping out the gym.

What do you play for, uh, bulletin? Yeah, Calce. I forget the brother's name, but some was bouncy. So Jeff get a still. I think you get a still or some or a rebound. He take off. Jeff take off on, bro. Punch him.

I think after that, everybody knew we were going to win that tournament. Yeah. There was mad teams there, too. We did. But like I said, Jeff led the way with that. And our sophomore year, he was a killer, man. All them accolades, everything that, that shit was well deserved, especially like our team.

You know what? You know what? Y'all start off number one? Nah, we start off like 25. Damn. We got to one though. That's because of them, though. They was special, bro.

Like our practices, we all was assholes in our own right, right? We all was like assholes. It was like, one thing about JJ, he always practiced hard. Yeah. It was, give me a day or two. I'm like, you know,

it was a thing I was a day. Yeah. Some are always talking There's no practice all-in-law, Jay. You can't be a practice All-American, Jake. He always practiced hard

and he rose the level of practice every day. But you see his energy. He always talking. He always was like the vibes. And our freshman year, he was like that. So now I know him as a sophomore. So they always just rose. Like, they made me better player.

They did that. Like, I knew they was going to the NBA. He came back. He was supposed to go. his freshman year. He did me a favor. You know what I mean? I begged it,

pause, but I begged this nigga not to leave. I'm like, yo, he's like, I'm a first round pick. I'm like,

yeah, but. We're going to win this chip. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you got to come back, bro, we're going to be good.

I'm like, Farooke, you and Farooke me, we're going to be nasty. Like, tea, I can't do it,

bro. Then he called me, like, I'm going to come back. I'm like, perru? Like, you know what?

I'm like, shit. If your mom would me ask, what was that decision-making process where you, like, obviously, you could have went to the league as before NIA. What made you come back? You know, when you were young, you're naive, you know what I mean? Like, I was naive to the fact that, like, we really win this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've always been that way, like, anything with anything, like, I really believe we could

have won that motherfucker, and that's why I came back, you know, like, go about that. Like, and when you were like, and when you were, you know, like, and when you with my brothers too, like the fellow fresh was something fierce, that that's what Jeff, Gary, myself, that's what we called each of whatever. But man, we was fierce, yo, like. Yeah, that's cool. And we thought Gary was gonna play more. He had a burner.

He had a burner, burn or burn. Gary had a burner. One of the best, like he's one of them dudes that, like I said, Jeff and I was playing one's on one side of the court, he on the other side of court with the chair. Going around the chair and getting looks up. I'm like, damn, this thing is dedicated. Why didn't he play that? What was the issue with him?

Politics. I don't know. He just never played it. I think they liked Harvey Hell better, honestly, and he was older. Yeah. But Harvey Hell shouldn't have been playing over the guy. Would that be insane? Why?

Respectfully, I think. That's what you phone this? Yeah, yeah. It's just like respect. How did you all have been if it was NIL area? Wow. Because y'all would have been, you know what I'm saying? His sophomore year, he probably, high-like wages.

He's insane. You probably against $7 million, bro. No, I would. After your first year? I probably would have been in trouble of summertime born in my sophomore year. Yeah. What?

Yeah, I mean, that, like, these kids nowadays, they learn about this. You know what I mean? Like, we didn't learn about that shit coming up or even while we was then. Yeah, in fact. Like, now they're getting this so, Paul, so, so, so fast that they're prepared. Their parents are preparing for it. They got managers preparing them for it. So, you know what I mean?

Shout out to them. Obviously, they should be getting this bread, but, but they're more prepared. I think they're far more advanced than what we were. And social media, this era, they're light years ahead of us at that age. You know what I mean? No, facts. Yeah, they get paid to high school now

about something. They get to college. They didn't remillionaire. Yeah. Right. Damn there. Yeah. And I'm being modern.

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Listen to I Am Rap Report on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Y'all would have had to have a UK payroll, bro. It's no way. We probably, I'm going to be honest. He probably wouldn't have been at Wake Forest. Nah, because Wake Forest pays you with education. Yeah, he probably. He probably.

Because I'm figuring out, wait for paying people to them. To go there and get that education. But they ain't got y'all. I mean, shouts are going there, but I think y'all would be, like, at that time, and if they got like this knowledge now, y'all niggas would have been gazillionaires, bro. He wouldn't be able to keep them, bro. How are you going on?

There ain't no James Johnson. I ain't no Jifty. There ain't no Al-Faroop walking through. I know. So I didn't even go keep James Johnson, BYU or... I'll tell you, though. The rookie contract would have been different.

Oh, yeah. Like, looking at the NIL, like, no, your rookie deal would have been different. Yeah. That's why you would have been straight with coming out. Facts, you, the number two, three pick, they get in six. Yeah, they get way more.

A little bit different than was before. I did eight years. Yeah. Eight hard fucking years. Four. for 60 yeah oh god

yeah I cross so niggas can run but I don't know I think they would have made that shake bro yeah but

very school and Carolina would have pulled together to keep y'all guys yeah they're like hey

yeah brother North Carolina I'm like brother we got six milk he can't change their jersey for us

boys would love but that back of my jersey yeah bech yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you yeah yeah

right yeah he's That war was... Not to harm to college, too much, man, but I want to talk about y'all's sophomore year, I meant legendary runs. Like, what was that like?

We all right talking to Jeffs about, what was it like that day that shot beat North Carolina, man? Because that was a crazy game, man. That shit was standard. I felt like we were the better team. Mm-hmm. And I mean, I don't believe better coach,

but we was a better team. Thanks. That was... To me, it was like, even when we beat a better team, Duke. Jeff didn't want nobody running on the court. Like he felt like I felt like that shit

was normal. Like, you know what I mean? We were supposed to do that. Yeah. Lou were in the court. That was our freshman year though. That was our freshman year. We were supposed to beat Duke. Yeah, no, not the first year. No, no, second year. We were like, what y'all I run on the court for? That was offensive. Thanks. What was the harder team? We were he was number one in the country.

Yeah, that's a fact. Is Carolina harder than Duke at that time? Carolina was nice. I think he had a golden duke. Like all the the Duke spoke or whatever they say with the, the, the, that shit, I don't think that's, that shit bother you. Nah, I, right. They was beating our ass there, though.

Yeah. We had like 30, because we came back, though, but we was getting. From 30? Yeah. It's, it got rocking in that. Yeah. I don't remember. We started.

We came back, but it was rock. Too late. Yeah, it was just too late. back. Childs of Cameron and Door, boy. Man, I wanted to talk to you about school, like being at school before we get out of the college part.

Like, I told a story one here one day about us going to mine class. People thought I was Kevin. And I wanted you to tell it because he was in my class. Now you put James in the Rico. I ain't know. This is a true story.

He was in my class. Yo, so you had to put a mask on and then you become the character. You got what I'm saying? So, like, you like, lose yourself to this world or whatever. And we had to do mine. Like, Mining.

I don't know what they call it Manny. Yeah. Mung sounds about right. Yeah. Fuck you on the chat. I don't care anyway. Long story short, my man's, it was his turn to go up,

whatever, in front of the class. Yeah, my man just, it was his turn to go up. So he'd get up there, and I'm telling you. What that thing I do, do, is right? He was killing. This nigga said, ran into the wall.

Heard the fuck. I'm like, he had niggins believing. The little step thing. Like, you know what I mean? He was on, man. He was talking about. Shit.

We was getting that easy credit. Oh, God. He hopped out over that. Yeah, he did that joke. And then you know how they forget about it and then he walked back. Oh, yo. Oh, shit, I told you.

That was like, that was something I saw that like, he lost himself. Like, you know, Jeff to himself. Yeah, like, yeah, too cool. He's a great one, too. Nah, but he's always to himself to watch him get out of himself to do that. Man.

Yeah, I was in that joint. Like, nothing. Yeah. But you can dance and shit, though. We had a hip-hop dance class again. Oh, yeah, hip-hop was the 40. Yes. Oh, my God.

We're going to be in the more my way for today. Yeah, we're in there bullshit. Oh, my God. It was early as hell. We were like seven in the morning. Hip-hop was crazy. The routine was crazy. Oh, man.

That is hilarious, bro. Hey, man, I didn't know y'all is Jebelwaukee's an undergrad, man. That is hilarious. Oh, God. Shout was awake, man. They made it right, man. What's the job of Milwaukee? I was...

I was kidding. Oh, yeah, respond today, Bill. Hey, I'm not as good as that. All right, man, we need some drinks before we keep going, man. Barbie, where are you at? Where you at? Shout out to Barbie. What up, B?

How you living? What's off, fellas. Sadden. What we got today? The enforcer? The enforcer. Okay. Okay.

It's the 520-some-earth cups. All right. Y'all to the merch for sure. Salute, man. Yeah, man. Y'all wait. I told you all the time. Y'all week team needed 30 for 30, bro.

Especially all the, like, the success all y'all had. Like, you're talking about y'all. Talk about I'ma. All y'all went to the league, man. What was that moment like for y'all was like, all right, we up out of here. Did y'all know, like, collectively, or did you just find out, I let him tell him you first. He said, what's funny. Shit.

As soon as that fourth quarter, that second half, that bell rank. What are they all right on Friday? What? What? Say, what leaderhood? I woke up the next morning, bro. Me and Gary, like, man, we got a class. We're talking about class and shit.

I'm like, man, damn. Everybody's like, where's James? I'm like, shit. Call him. JJ, where you at? He said, I'm in Cali, brother. He said, you can have all that shit in my room. He's like, yeah, I left the keys in the drawer on my truck.

Good luck to you, boy. I said, Dale. I was out of that. I would have got that truck then I was rolling on it. I was about to get that one more time, Jay. Come back one more. We're going to win it. Nah, nigga, keep everything.

He's never coming back. I never come back. Sorry to God, bro. He said, tell Farooke, man. They could have them shoes and shit. There was a jordan's in there. I hit Farooke, like, Jay J.J. He said he goes to his room.

He just got the door open. The door room was just wild open. Damn. They in there grabbing all the Js and shit. My damn. You were even considering coming back. Yeah, I was thinking about coming back because I didn't know. Like, they was first round picked.

They was guaranteed. I wasn't at first. Then, you remember he was gone already. I had that call with the coach and stuff, and he fucked up letting me hear that. He's like, yeah, they all going to get picked in the first round. I said, hmm? Yeah, I'm going I'm going

I was hype when my boy told me you're coming I was like Oh, I pause that I was definitely Pause and repeat Let's try

Yeah No, I was hype When I got that phone He was gonna Go to the league with me And all that So And we did it

I always loved telling that story Like We came to Wake Forest Together, we left together Yeah, bro Hell yeah man It happened for sure man, had campus rocking.

What was that like for you, man? That process of getting drafted and actually, you know what I'm saying, being an official NBA player, man, walking across that stage. That shit was harder as how. I'm talking about, I think I had like 10, 11 workouts.

Some I repeated. Like, I went back to the same team twice. Who you workout for twice? Those workouts was tough. Phoenix and Toronto. Oh, I heard that Toronto workout. Brutal too. Nasty work.

I heard it was brutal. Man. I'm talking about back and forth layups, right hand, left hand. Damn. Heard's like a drill crazy. Yeah, right. Damn, full court layups.

Yeah. That shit sounded part. The shit. End of the story. I ain't go to Toronto. It's shit was hard as shit to get in that motherfucker anyway. I was like, man.

Where do you have your best? Now I love Toronto. Who did you have your best workout out as you feel during that time? Like, damn, I could probably come here. Shit, I had a couple. Charlotte, I thought I did well in Charlotte. Yeah. I thought I was going to Charlotte for sure.

Coach Ron. Yeah. He was doing more teaching. That's why I loved his whole workout was. He was teaching us. He wasn't even, it wasn't even about the, The athleticism or the talent, for real. He wanted to see if you could pay attention and lock in with that kind of, you know what I mean?

I thought I was going there. I didn't have to show too much, but I ended up going to the Bulls. And I sure was a blessing, 16 pick. I take it every time. Yeah, it ended up being a Bulls. We got talking about you. I got one of the best drag class of all time, especially top to bottom, look at all the Hall of Famers, all the success. There's a lot of people.

Yeah, I was about a legendary class. Boy, still getting to it, man. I remember when you got drafted. I called, I called you. I was like, he got drafted. I was still waiting. I called him. I was like, damn, nigga, you got drafted 16.

I'm hype. He was like, you up next, nigga. You know, hell. You got no judge. You're about to get hype when they call your name because I thought I was going to Philly. And they said Drew Holliday. He was like, damn.

He's like, Yeah, don't worry about that shit Don't about me You about your time coming, man I'm gonna call you When they call your name I was like, oh shit I got nervous as fuck

And they called me My name at 19 He called me back I told you What he's in this motherfucker I was like I just thought he'd Like going back to back

It's about to be tough He said, damn Nah, I already knew it though Yeah That season That sophomore season was That shit was an epic run For you, bro

Nah, man Appreciate it man Yeah, man, I was really hooping free. I know we ain't gonna hop on it too much, but y'all was really like whooping shit. Like the way that y'all is doing it, bro. It felt like a real nigga, hey, you team.

That's why everybody was rocking with y'all. Yeah, it's fact. That's what BYUu trying to say. Yeah. Oh, shit. They put that shit on wax, too. It was on the papers. They were like, yo, there's nothing but

and one player on the team. They don't got no stability. Yeah. No stability is crazy. What? No, they're crazy. Wow. Yo, while we was putting the belt on them,

the fan section, everybody. one shit. Yeah, they have to stop the game and all that, like, like, their coach came out and like, y'all, let the boys play. Hey, I ain't never went to a gym. It was all white people with white shirts on.

Oh, that my fuck look crazy in there. It looked crazy. It looked crazy in there. That's a fact. We went there. I had to remember for that, Eric. Yeah, we was like, we walked in there.

We all were just looking like. I said, was different. Did he play good against y'all? No one, before that, I ain't never seen no one. do like a t-shirt day. Yeah. In college.

They had all t-shirts on. It was crazy. He played good, though. He probably had like 25. Who, Jim? Yeah. Yeah, he was valid that night. Yeah.

Damn. But was that your most hot-staffirms environment, though? It's a hard-covered. I guess, yeah, BYU ain't have nothing for y'all at all. That wasn't the worst environment. The worst for me was probably, uh, NC State. Mm-hmm. NC State.

That was crazy. That was crazy. What they had posters of you, niggas or something? I had JJ Hicks. That's what she had. He was nasty. He was a dog. That it was real pain.

My mother used nasty. But NC State, they was roofless, bro. Damn, my. ACC was murderous Ronald for real, for real. If you look at that time period, bro, you had all the heavy hitters out there. Yeah, Maryland was bad, too. Gris Vasquez was sure.

Yeah, Maryland was a good one. Their fans was crazy, too. Yeah, Grievous went crazy. What it was like, man? Some of your best dunk. You did one of your best. That's what I said. That's really.

That's right. Oh, yeah. I'm going to tell y'all about a game while we're in college. I remember you punched on Trevor Booker? Right. Team, book, I thought Timuble. Hey, bro, we were a wild team, bro. I love this nigga, man.

He's crazy. Teambook went to Clemson, man. Yeah. That thing is crazy, bro. What you know? I'm talking about, man. It's all love. Let me.

I'm saying, we had one of the coolest teams, man. We had one of the coolest teams, man. I remember that the coolest teams. and Trevor Booker. I did. You're doing for Cleveland, too. You played well for Brooklyn. Yeah, I did.

Really? Now, you was killing that game, you had 30? You had 15 rebrand. Oh, yeah, y'all was out there from you. You had 15 boards. You all this time and get the rebounds. You had four assists in team high?

Yeah. What a ball movement? No, wow. You were the fishing. That's efficient. Yeah, yeah, you was cooking. That's 30 within the system. That's crazy.

Jimber 23, though, boy. That's tough on 3rd. You know what? Y'all was getting to it, man. What's your rookie year like, man? How many points I had that game? He got 15 rebounds. And he's got a pocket.

And you just getting on that glass. Especially how much. You called that egg give you a migraine. Yeah, 22. You only took it. I'm about to say, man. I'm about to say, bro. Yeah, I don't want to get looked up.

He had $2. Hold on, dude. That's fine. I had a double check for my own show copy. You had 22 and 50. That's a monster game. Yeah, me, yeah. Yeah, it was kind of nice.

No, y'all was. We were chasing McFarl. Yeah, y'all was hooping, bro. Y'all had a squad. Man, I'm a nigga for Roop, man. Yeah, what was rookie year? You got a chance to play with one of our favorite players. I mean, everybody liked Derek Rose, and he was cold.

I remember you talking to me about Derek Rosen when your rookie year, you like, like, bro, cool as hell. And he cold I was like Damn he's cold He's like cold He's like cold He's cool as fuck though

Yeah he was He kept saying That like me he's a cool nigga And I was like Damn for real What was your rookie year Like bro

Man rookie year I had Vinny Down Negro And I swear He ain't playing Because he went to NC State I can say

Yeah That Yeah That's great That's great That's what I felt But It started off wicked

Like I'm playing Summer League first, right? I feel like I'm one of the best players. Obviously, Summer League in regular season, even Summer League and preseason is two different levels. For sure.

Is that I'm saying? Yeah. But even then, preseason came, I felt like I was still one of the best. And, you know, every team I ever been on, I've been that nigger or one of them that niggas. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. And so I get there, I get to Chicago, and I still feel like that. You know, my confidence. I really feel like it's through the roof. I mean, my work after. all that. So I get there.

First 30, 40 games. I don't even play. I was right with you, brother. At all? I don't play. And I got great pets, too. Like, Brad Miller, Kurt Heinrich. Obviously, Derek.

Derek always was like keeping me humble with it. Like, oh, bro, look where you at. You know, before Derek was the philosopher that these guys know, like, I know them, the young just second-in-the-league, Derek. Right. You know what I'm saying? Still was kicking knowledge, even that young. I feel like that's why Lou said what he said.

Joe Kim said what he said about him about, even though he was younger, that they still listened to him. Like he was older. It felt like he was older the way he spoke. Right. So, but anyway, I'm with him. He's keeping me humble with it. But at the end of the day, I'm young.

I got more money than I ever had in my life. Yeah. You feel me? And I'm going out. You had that in comedy. Yeah, I'm going outside. Like, for real. And, you know, you're young, like I said, naive.

So you feel like you damn near punishing them. Not playing you and not giving you this opportunity and all that. Not knowing you sabotaging yourself and your self-worth. You know, they say, you know, they say the less you've seen, the more money you get paid for your appearance. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was the opposite.

I'm going to them spots for free. You know what I'm saying? And that shit was really the start of a bad side of the league where you don't want to be in. You know what I'm saying? Right. Where they start getting opinions and shit starts getting fabricated and you can't stop. It's a snowball effect. But long story short, that shit came with it.

And then Louie gets hurt. Lua Dan gets hurt. I get my opportunity. I start playing. I'm playing well. But I'm still young and dumb. You got what I'm saying? I'm still outside.

I'm still whiling. And I'm playing at this point. So it's like, yo, all I got to do at this point is do everything I love to do with. Cool. You know what I mean? Workout, go inside.

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I'm getting real. You know what I'm saying? There's no funny shit. Like, you know, so I'm doing that while I'm getting the minutes now that I want it. But now I'm coming back and the next day, shoot-around. I'm smelling wild. You know what I mean? Like, you can't brush that shit off.

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? You can't shower that shit off. So soon you start sweating outside. Yeah, I mean, yeah, dangly. So, I don't know this. You know what I mean? I'm not aware of this.

And then, you know, the older guys is telling me, O.J., like, you got to stay away from coaches, you gotta do this. They're doing their due diligence as far as, like, being great vets. Yeah, yeah. It had nothing to do with them. Doing this shit to myself.

You know what I'm saying? Thinking I'm hurting something that really, like, all they do is just get another asset. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm not realizing that. I'm thinking the NBA need James Johnson. No, man.

No, niggins. James Johnson need the lead. Yeah. 100%, bro. And so that shit, that shit right there was, it was an eye open, especially after your first year, you know, back in the G, like, you signed two years, two years guaranteed, and the other one was a team option.

But after your first year, that's where they decide if they're going to keep your option. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going into the team meeting. They're like, yo, we don't want to do this, but you work hard. You know, the normal, like, threaten, get your shit together. We want you and all that. By that time, it was too far gone.

Now, Vinny Down Negro is gone. Tibido comes. You know what I mean? Tibdo's coming on fresh off a championship. So he knows from defense head coach championship. You know what I'm saying? With Doc, like, has pedigree on him. So it's like he knows what he's talking about this net.

Oh, first day of practice. Some put me on the Penny team. Back then, there is no two ways and nothing like that. Penny team is the niggins that's trying to make a team, try to make that last spot. You know what I'm saying? And I'm guaranteed at this time. So I'm like, oh, he don't know me from nothing.

This is before I knew Tibbs. Like, as a man, I well, I respect Tibbs with everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, Tibbs is a great coach and a great human to me. Like, I have no parole with Timbs. But at that time, like, he's trying to raise the nigga that was already raised by something far more worse than him. You got what I'm saying?

Yeah. My father far more worse than you. So them intimidation, shit, that don't skis. Damn me, you got what I'm saying? Yeah. But anyway, get traded from there, go to Toronto. I'm in Toronto. I'm in Toronto, loving it.

I'm getting a chance. My first game with Toronto was against the Bulls. I start. We get that dub, you know what I mean? Coach Torrell, J. Terrell, J.T. He was like, that guy. Yeah, oh, me. I love that guy. Yeah.

He was the one who really gave me my first chance of, like, yo, go get a bucket, go hoop. Like, don't look at me when you make mistakes and shit. Because, you know, this game will cause anxiety and, like, if you let it break you. You know what I'm saying? You let that shit break you every time you grab the ball. Like, yeah, I was going to get wide.

You just want to make the right play. You don't want to fuck up, all that shit. So it's like, if you let it break you, they're psychiatrists in the building for shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Now, that's interesting to you.

because they always talk about people who transition to the league. He was like, oh, he was so good in college. He had all this stuff. Why is he only doing this particular role? It's just like, dog, he's doing this role because he's trying to feed his family. He's trying to make sure he makes this next time. Yeah, he can do all that shit.

He's trying to do this and not mess up. Yeah. And that can just kind of limit your game. He's trying to do that at a high level. And then still mix in. You know how it is, but that shit is taxing, especially on your mind frame. But like I said, if you let it break you,

then they're psychiatrists for shit like that. I fuck with the journey because obviously me and you close, I knew it. And I remember when things went a little different. And you came to the Hawks. Right. Remember, and we was talking, and you was trying out. I was like, damn, JJ going to be on the Hawks with him because he made, he was on the team. But my nigga is so competitive.

He was about to beg the team, so competitive. They love him. Be him talking to me like, JJ, man, this is what we was missing. It's the perfect piece. But we go play baseball. and this dude we call him good at everything like we call him we say he's

great at life like he does everything well so I ain't know this nigga to play baseball right so we playing baseball I'm okay Kyle Corp is real good all these guys did

it's a pop fly ball boom outfield JJ Coach Bull about to get it he loved baseball this his primary sport JJ ah let me get that

throw in coach bud like He can't play here. What? He was pissed. He was not lying. He was tight. He was tight.

Yeah, that is insane. So, this was for out of three. I'm not sure his old ass even saw that. I don't know. I'm going to win. I mean, I'm a bet on myself. I'm going to catch him. And I mean, he should have saw the aspect on that side.

Yeah. I mean, the spectrums was. But. We know you wrong. I should know you wrong. I remember the day, I know we, I'm fast forward in your career because I want to talk about the Memphis part when you went to Memphis because you really turned up. But I remember when we played Miami, he was in Miami and you hooping. He running the pick and row 77 doing his shit.

And I remember coming to the bench, you know, I was like, God damn, we could have had that shit. And Coach Bill looked at me and he said, I fucked up. I fucked up. That's all right. He kept up. He might have said something to you. Yeah, now a buck came up to me. Yeah, because he was just like, he's like,

you're such a good fucking player. These are the players that you need. He's going to change the game. It was him and Dreemaw. He was like, they're like point guards that played a four position. You can put them on anybody. You can split them on four. And he was just giving JJ so much praise.

And that was just like a whole thing. About the NBA is, bro. And that's what I said. That's why I focus with y'all because niggas wouldn't know. That's why niggas don't be in certain places. Like, I'm way better than you at baseball, bro. Don't make this about me being on this fucking team I mean, I'm shitty

He knows He knew, nigga, everybody was hype Yeah, boy And buddy, he got me more pig for a catcher Yeah He got me like for y'all Yeah I need to be behind the batting, right?

He got, for real though Everybody in the whole Like the whole coaching staff was hype about I was hyped Because I'm crazy Especially after training camp, I'm like, yo, I got my guard back, playing with my head again. Hell, yeah. That's about the crap.

Yeah, bro, we got a charge, brother, for that. To me, it's a great thing because I think he went, and you went to a place. Yeah. Really define your skill set and show that you what you do really well. You went to Miami turned up. Yeah, but now after Atlanta, I went to Memphis. Yeah. And that's what I really turned up for a little.

Yeah. You put on a show in Memphis. I was having a ball in Memphis. Yeah, and they let you cook. They let you play a brand of basketball. Right, right, right. Some of them highlights, bro, is crazy. How was that going there, though?

They embrace you right away. Yeah, most definitely. Like I said, like, you can carry baggage with you, right? Yeah. It's good. All of mine was pretty much bad. It was like, you know what I mean? I'm at the end of my end.

I just went to Atlanta, tried out for a team. Got cut. You hear me? So, like, I'm in the G-League playing. and then Memphis 10-day but when I went there it was more like they wasn't judging me yeah you know what I'm saying

it was more like you know how bad can this nigga be man we got we got Zach Randolph and Tony Allen I'm sure sure and I think I gel with the team I gel with the management just be off the strength of that like you know what I'm saying they didn't look at me like the person everybody else or the other GMs might have passed on

or whatever it was more like You know, that's what their culture is about over there. You know what I mean? But they do teach you how to be a professional, obviously. You know what I mean? They got ways around that. Oh, for sure. Yeah.

I have to jump around too much when we talk about it, Miami Heat. Sure. Heat culture. A lot of that is old to you. If you know, you know for sure. What was that moment like, man, getting in South Beach, you know what I'm saying? Having some real successful years down there, man. Man, nah, it was, you know, I give a lot of credit.

to unanimous. I always have because he held a standard, you know what I mean? He wouldn't let you settle over there. I'm talking about

with anything for the single niggas, you know what I'm talking about, man. He helped y'all out the club for real, a lot of times. Oh, that's real,

though. You these Springs boys' championships. Respect. Word. And beyond that, obviously, but he's the one who really, like,

showed, like, how to be tight-knit and trust each other because, you know, the league is all about, yeah, yeah, yeah, I trust you, but I want your minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I trust you, but I want you to fuck up. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

And I feel like he was already above that by winning the championship and understanding what it took to be a champion. So I think off-rip, obviously everybody in the gym or everybody on the team had mad respect for him, but being able to play basketball and even, you know, even, you know, This is like even during the pickup days. You know the pickup days before the preseason starts and even all that shit starts. So like it's pickup days and coach out there like, yeah, whoever the best players, that's what you're going to play. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, we came in in 2009. It wasn't always the best players going to play with. Not at all. A nigga who was getting the most money. Exactly. Like you could be 10 times better than the person making. At this time, $15 million for three years, four years. That was big chicken.

Yeah, that's great money back then. And so you finally get to the heat where they're like, yo, you get to play your brand of basketball. And if you're the best player out here, you're going to play. Now, I think everybody felt a way about that where it just brought out the best in everybody. On top of UD, obviously harping on, like, we built champions here.

We champions around here. I wanted to win one of them so bad. So bad over there. Especially for Udana's. Like, I feel like for UD, I think he wanted us to win it more for us more than we wanted to win it more for us. You know what I'm saying? So I should show you like the humility he has

and the given kind of person he is. At the time he was 36 too, like 36, 37. Oh, man. Like 2016? 2016, 2017. Yeah, but that's old. But that's not, to me, that's not like old to hoop. Yeah.

You get what I'm saying? Like, to me, like I signed with a team and I'm 36. I think if I have a good training camp, I give myself a chance. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You, he was 42, boy. Damn.

Yeah, yeah. Because he got running 70s on 30s. Running 7s with draggits. Yeah, ragged. Going live to the white side, picking rolls and handing the ball off to Wayne Ellington. Tyler Johnson, of course. That's my man's.

That's my man's. Man's, like, you know what I mean? The Johnson name says enough, but that's my man's. That's not how white side was crazy. He was hooping. Man. He was nasty, bro. He's really the one who changed the whole, like, body fat shit.

Like, that nigga came in inhumane. Yeah. He was, like, seven foot tall, two 50, four, four or five percent body fat. Niggas was like, yo. He's a dunk. He's a dunk every other. And then also everybody's shit had to get down past that. It was like, you used to be all right with seven.

Now we need you at six. Yeah. That shit really like that. Man, what? You didn't believe it? I mean, I believe it, but, damn. I'm talking about, I'm hot as well. I'm so fucked up that even if I look at the scale,

I know, I picture Miami Heat. Locker room. We can get a trouble. You got to be able to. You know me, J.C., my shit has always been bad. You know, I can't go a week without working out or something. My shit blew up. That's that.

I'm like half a mile, so I think, like, that part of me, that shit gets big. too quick. Too quick. So, like, I always had a thing about that, but that shit is real. You're like big on that shit

though when you got there, though? They're finding you. You're losing bread. Bam, bro. Because you're eating. That's crazy, bro. That is crazy, bro. Mike, can you can't cut the air on for my foot.

What I'm saying, they're about to start dying. I'm saying, they hold you to a standard, though, that even yourself didn't know you was capable of. You know what I'm saying? And that's one thing I will say about them. That's why I feel genuinely, that's why they can get second round picks and no, no, not,

not drafted at all and then make gems. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely evident as well. Like you said, a lot of people who go to Miami, but they were getting their shit off, but it matter where he was, you're going to hoop, you're going to get on this court. Right. Hey, did not discriminate at all.

That's what I'm saying. They gave everybody a shot. So I naturally feel like that brings the best out of you naturally because you have a shot to play not off of anything else that goes on around the bubble of the league. Yeah. I'm a better basketball player than this guy on my team. Yeah. I was even know we move around a little bit. What was one of your favorite season player? I'm always going to love Toronto. Yeah. Chicago, obviously. You know what I mean? You get drafted in Chicago. I feel like you were a kid. You grow up watching Jordan.

And you get there, you see all the trophies, it's Jersey, you know what I mean, the banners. It just automatically feel like this is what you're supposed to be. You know what I mean? You dreamed about shit like that. So I think the Bulls for sure. Miami, obviously, still love Miami. I still live in Miami. Beautiful city.

In Memphis, the time I had in Memphis, it was dope. Yeah. I'm dope. The hot light is that you go right there. Okay, I load it up, Mike. I got you here, James, man. I want to play you. Oh, that's my favorite.

Yeah. One of my favorite highlights of you, bro. Five, two, he productions. Yeah, drumming my man's now, but. He'll smoke. Oh. Drumming my man's now, but he did me bogus over here. Boy, I almost had to bring a nigga out.

I buried you. Yeah, I'm not a day. He came back. Yeah, he was wilder right here. Oh, my God. You have me? Look. I get up calmly.

I don't want to commentate this because, you know. Oh, yeah. Like I said. But, yeah, that was, that's one of my first-old was. I was a lot of doing, man. I understand why he did it. I didn't understand why he think it was a height. That's the dude to me.

I'm going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to. That's 520 family, too. I am for no, bitch. I was a drug. Yeah. Connie Bates a lot of slipping.

I was like, damn, boy, he was a brave boy. Oh, man. You know, I respect that, though. Respect that way more. Them type of players right there? Yeah, like, we men. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

We men. You're making a play. You're making a play. It's more of a raw, raw your team up, why we're scared of this team, why are we getting thug, bullied by this team? So, like, as a basketball player, I understand. Yeah.

Like I said. But we cleared up. I love a shit. I got texted the humutifier. That's crazy. Crazy. I love this, man. I want to talk about it, man.

Listen, man, I'll never forget, man. We played Milwaukee Bucks, man. And shit got real tricky, man. And they played in our face, man. And then it was only right, man. They had to go get the legend for our team. And when you pulled up to nap, man, all the thing's been great ever since, man.

What was that like when you got the car to pull up in the city, man? Shit. I was astounded. Like I said, bro, I seen the buildup. I seen the first year we was here. Yeah. We didn't go to the off. And then the second year, we were like, yo, we end this shit.

You know what I'm saying? You thought y'all, I'll be honest. Third year? We wanted y'all to win just for the city. But did you think y'all was going to really win that game in the time? Tyrese didn't get hurt? Yo, how do you not think that? That was hoping.

He was hoping. His run and his stories, bro, I feel like if it wasn't winning it, that was the only other way. Yeah, bro. There was only two outcomes. He was going to win a chip or that was going to happen. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Hot. Yo, at OKC, great players, great team, all that. Like, nah, the way he was, the way he wanted to start the game, like, you know, normally, you know his game. Normally he's going to get involved, get people involved. He might give you, you give me the open three. I'm going to take it. Keep you honest.

then I'm going to spray then I'm throwing it up. Exactly. He came about aggressive. I was like, I yeah. Exactly. And we've seen this before.

Anytime Tyrese came out that aggressive, we was getting a dub history shows. Every time he came out that aggressive, we were playing built. The numbers keep it real. But outside that unfortunate happen. I talk to people all the time, man. Obviously, we ain't got a shit,

but that's one of the crazy playoffs that I ever got to witness, especially as a Fed. Like, obviously been around there? What was the vibe? Like, man, because y'all was just whooping everybody, bro. I'm telling you, it was.

is normal. Damn. Especially Andrew Nimar. He, like, does a great job of, like, he don't get too high, too lower. He was an even killer. You know, killer. You know what I'm saying?

Pascal, obviously, you know his vibe. So, like, Tyrese, he was more the one that was just like, yo, we got this many more, this many, you know what I mean? But we've seen this shit over and over again, even before this crazy run. Like, what he did,

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I think they could. I think they could. He had a chance. Yeah. Bro, no way. No, I'm saying. I'm saying. If he didn't get hurt.

I'm rolling. That shit, he's turned up so much, bro. All I'm saying is just look at, look at. at the end of the half. Look at after he got injured. Yeah. And see what the score is going into halftime. No, I'm saying, I was saying,

think about these niggins so much, y'all could witness motherfucker for real. Like, we wanted to win for the city. For our show, we had to do, like, we ain't no gimmicky-ass niggas, but we had to create some shit for the show just because DJ is such a, we hate on each other. And I was obnoxious, too.

Yeah. Like, we was pod every night. He's blowing. He's blowing on the show. Yeah, he's fucking for the show. I was wild. My nigga she's been pit the threes against a Knicks, bro. That's another thing.

It was like, yo, everybody was bringing their best for Martinez. Yeah. That shit, that shit, double A did, and A. Smith did. Bro. In the garden. It was impressive. It was kind of like, you watched the game the other day, Knicks and the Cavs? Absolutely.

So what y'all did is basically what the Knicks did to the Cavs. You said that, yeah. But the only thing is what, how many minutes they had left? Like, seven? We had two. Yeah, y'all did that shit in like a crazy. Anise man. I'm like, yeah, bro.

Eliminated that lead, bro, in like 65 seconds, bro. Off curl three. On some dream shot, man. On some curve three, bro. They were sitting on every screen. No, no, JT. No, double put in pain. I'm talking after every practice, he put in pain, too.

So, like, to see them shit's just going, like, I'm telling you, we're around each other. Like, we genuinely. all fucked with each other, so it was more like we get to see your work at it on a daily basis. Yeah. I wish y'all would I wish Tyrese didn't get hurt.

I would like to see how that fourth quarter played out. Yeah. Because that was a hell of a series for real basketball hits. Yeah. It might not have been the most attractive series because of the fans because of Indiana, Oklahoma.

Yeah, but for basketball that was a good series. Man, that was. I had been great basketball. Good bun. Amazing. Like, we even said it, we was like, yo,

whoever gets the first stand, like, you know how, like, you get the first road win, you more likely to win this shit. Yeah. It was more like, yo, whoever gets the first two games, like you got to win two in a row to be able to win this shit. Yeah, fat. You know what I'm saying?

Like, we would have got one and two. I felt like we would have won that shit. Yeah. With confidence was crazy. They was hooping, bro. Like, these things really got the city on. Man. I don't think it's going to be tough to recreate that.

Yeah, I was bringing people together that don't never come together. That's what you don't know. Yeah. Niggah hoods in my town, nigga day was, niggas was celebrating together, bro. Nope more shit.

I was the most hated nigga in my city. Yes, I grew up here. I was the most hated, Nick. From every side of town. Niggas calls the whole ass nigga. Yeah.

Niggas kill each other, all that shit from different huds. Everybody was against this nigga, right? Trust me. Like, one guy tell me anything about Indiana. All the dead is. They did a two-year-bed with this thing.

Yeah, right. No, nah. You're talking about somebody who loves where they're from. I'm talking about I heard every story. I, bro, I knew Lou was way before he even. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about all the stories. Like, Jeff is proud to be where he's from here.

He's a standole of a niggas. You can't have your opinion on nothing out here. Oh, no. This nigga? I'm like, I had to tell him some niggas from my hood. What's up with your men? That's some ho-ass shit. They're from the city.

They can't fight you for them. What the fuck? Niggas was telling me, James is get on his ass. Really? I was like, I was like, I was like, yeah, I had to chill. I was like, fuck, because DJ had

covered here on so wild shit. And we parted, nigga, every night. Yeah, y'all kept... Oh, wow. We all right. Shit. Y'all kept the lights on in the red. Yeah.

We hang on a lot. We got a couple of millions. You guys kept the lights. No, we did, but I'm saying. Y'all kept the content for us, for sure, bro, that was lit. Yeah, I'm gonna let them niggas know when I see him. I was talking.

These niggas keep winning. DJ keep on. Yeah. Yeah. He was good times for sure. And we're in the crap, man. Yeah. So for sure.

Good times for sure, man. But while we hear it, man, SGA looking like, he didn't remember about to get another one, man. You saw it upclos and personal. Obviously, you know what I'm saying? A little bit different. Like, SGA. Is that short for Wimby?

Yeah. Oh. You got Winby in them winning it all? Absolutely. Yeah, he cold, bro. Look, that was earlier because me and Moog said, Win me the greatest we ever seen, bro. I ain't never seen no shit like that, bro.

I've never seen it neither, though. Yeah, nah. That's all moving like that. He's just got to say anything. Don't surprise you when you see the shit that they even allow to be seen, like the yoga, the all his little work ethics, his, what's those stretches and all that? The band work?

He does all that before. Yeah, we went. doing all that. Not at all. I hate it. Phone rolling. Still do. Damn.

I think if you phone roll, like, you're really fucked up a little bit. Mook do that shit. That's been hurt. See what I'm saying? Mook knew that shit every time before you.

You got to be crazy. Man, Wempe was with the monks in the summer, bro. He said, I'm locked the fuck in. You know he was about to be serious. He's got to stay healthy, though, bro. I don't think he's going to get 41.

I said she's cold. No, but his defense at the president. I feel like the Mucke's in the Navy Seals. You train with either one of those groups. Yeah. Man, it's different. My brother's training, bros. You train.

You, man, people don't know. When you got to wake forest, you had the pick between kickboxing or hooping. I know because, nigga, you're like, I'm about to kickboxing, I'm about to get some money. Yeah. But people don't know, man, you really like that. Your whole family like that.

Yeah, I got soft that way. You know, you're chasing that bread. Yeah. You can't pop off like. This is before the grams and all that. Facebook, but the niggas was posting Facebook like that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean.

Shit was used for other things. My niggins about to get to it. Yeah. Yeah, growing up, training, fighting, always allowed me to be myself and hold my head high everywhere I go. Yeah. And, like, it always taught me, like, stay in the moment, like, enjoy the moment,

that space. And I think that shit helped a lot tied in a lot to everything I do with period in life. It's like, I don't care if it's skateboarding. I want to be better than Tony Hawk. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If it's being max biking,

I want to be better than Nigel. You what I'm saying? It's like I have a problem. I don't care. Like, I have a problem with wanting to be the best or be better than everybody I hang out with. You know what I'm saying? So I was like,

that's how he is too, though. gotta be wired like that though I'm saying that's some different kind of niggas for sure for sure

y'all overly competitive for sure facts you should have seen us bro we used to argue about everything oh yeah my nigga

we used to argue like when they put us on different teams and practice like he was gonna beat me up one day we just talked about it early

he's about with my ass I like for setting a good screen you said a good screen I was going to have to resort to Violet. He wasn't to

hear him. He was talking to him. He used to go around me grab my grubby, you know, like,

I don't know if you guys, but when you're chasing, you know what I'm saying? You can use the big that's in the screen to like get around. Right? And he like got around

and like got low, obviously, Paul was like, going around. He grabbed my knee. I'm like, damn, then you're trying to rip my knee.

Yo, I forget who or what. It might have been a walk on. He got a bucket. Anyway, coach got a, Coach got fired up and all that. And Jeff was like, this bitch-ass nigga.

Like, fuck you're like, fuck you're talking about. I'm like, yo, fuck your mom. Fuck your gang. Fuck everything about you. Yeah. That's screaming. A gun screen, too. It was good bullshit.

I don't let him get around that motherfucker. Oh, good. It was all that. I said, oh, yeah, Jen. I say no more. That thing you said, Hey, that thing you look. I have to practice.

You got to see me. And this is, yeah, this is during, like, holiday time, like Christmas time, so niggas is not in their dorm. Yeah. They're in hotel rooms at this point. They put you in these hotels

because no one's allowed to stay on the campus or whatever. Man. Yeah, a little bit of getting out of screen. Yeah, I dread it going to knock on that door. And then, like, I was, like, fighting myself back

I was walking down the hallway nigga for real. Nah, nah, let it go, Jay. That didn't say. Fuck your mind. I ain't never let that pass. I ain't never let that pass. Listen, bro.

We got out of practice. You don't throw no regular punch in this. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. That story, bro. Like, we get out of practice,

so I'm acting like I'm still mad and Gary like, hey, nigga, when the practice over, nigga, go on here and run to the locker room. I'm holding back. I'm not, I'm scared. I ain't scared if you're talking about, he's like, gee, you better be. That nigga, man. Ain't anybody holding that big, motherfucker back, man?

You know, how you're talking? You see, what you're talking to get me? We need a practice niggas be shooting around. I'm out. All right. Jay J.J. like, hey, nigger? Uh-uh. Uh-uh.

I'm like, what's shit? I get my shit. Lapoor, like, you know, my nigga, Lapoor. He's like, come on me to take you back to the hotel, man. Take a date of her tour. Jay, like, Gary called me, like, JJ, you only get away to your room, bro. I was like, ah, shit.

What was you so mad for, though, bro? No, you know, I was big and nine. That's how I'm trying to be. Yeah. I'm telling you, and you know, like, when the walk-ons is getting busy, like, rebound or they sleep. Yeah.

Niggas got to run for that. Oh. Speaking of running, that's when I found out Jeff was really crazy. Like, crazy. We, we're in practice. After practice, we got suicides. Boom. Everybody make the first one. Everybody make the second one.

One of these niggas on the team, I don't want to say his name, Jamie Skeen. Bro, we had one left. One left. This niggas was not making it. I seen, y'all remember that? Yeah, it's like a black. I'm talking about shirt off rate of boxing picnic. I'm talking about we'd have to hop you, Jamie Skeen.

He wasn't rap tight even He knows that you know you my man You ain't rap tight No, oh God Jay was crazy too Oh, so guys He was gonna put up his ass He was mad at shit though

Nah, he was mad at shit though I was mad of shit And he was winded too That's why he wasn't He'd be tired as fuck Yeah He was when we had to run a mile Like eight days of the scheme

That's what I'm saying We was running this bitch backwards What? Big, nigga, like, like him. Nogging him out, all that. Jeff never said nothing to nobody before that day. That's crazy. You got a thing, he, what was you, like, $250 back then, $2.45?

$245.6.8, $2.45, right? This nigga running the mile on, what, $5.45 or something like that? Spurs up there. Yeah, so I had to run it at $5.15. I think he ran $5.45. Skeen had to make it in six minutes, right? This nigga, skiing. I love skiing, bro.

He wasn't making that bitch at all, nigga. We had to run this shit. like eight times because of Scheme. But we ain't realized that we ran a mile backwards. Because, nigga, we all was like, come on, skiing. Come on, skiing. You're going to make it.

We all running this bitch backwards in six minutes. He finally made it. He died over the line. Make it like $5.59. Everybody hype or whatever. And then Coach Musil was like, you motherfuckers just running a mile backwards. That's cool.

We're like, damn, we're in some shape. Chase. Yeah. Yo, remember when Harvey crossed the line? Hey, yo. My son Harvey, we run in the mile, right? I think it's seen a year for him. Yo, when he gets to the last 200, he got 100 yards left.

This nigga get going like this thing. 40, 30. Yo, about the time he got the 20, this nigga whole body cramped up, bro. They got a whole body cramped up, bro. My name hit the floor. He didn't even cross the line. He couldn't even do him that favor. Like, this thing is drop.

Yeah, I do remember that shit. Yo, the boy had to go get the Ivy. This is how I knew Gary was a little wired different to. He's like, that motherfucker ain't even make it. You got him out of him. Gary said, Gary said, that motherfucker ain't even making it. No, he ain't ready. He ain't, he ain't motherfuckabye to make it out.

Like, this thing is crazy. Yeah, what? Man, why? Man, man. Man, back, bro. It's fun as hell, man. Nah, for sure, Jane. Definitely appreciate you for pulling up.

For sure. Yeah, for we out here, man, tell the people they can find a new pie, bro. The new five day. Yeah. Yeah. It's still in the works. Oh, you're still in the works, but that means, stay tuned. Wait for that.

Nothing silent, man. Be on the lookout for that. On the way, fam. I'm on the way, fam. I don't know. I'm going to wait for sure. Tap in. Before we get out here, be here and tell people that can grab some merch, buddy.

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